Does anyone unironically like old guns?

Yeah, lots.

>>30137392
don't care for milsurp really.

I want the old hunting guns from the 30s through 80s before everyone cheapened out and you could get quality bolts with irons, nice sxs shotguns and great pre hillary hole and colt bluing that they lost the formula on revolvers.

>>30137392

Yes. It's not always about practicality. Sometimes it's just about fun.

>>30137392
anyone who's played Medal of Honor or Call of Duty

>>30137392

what kind of question is that? of course I do

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>>30137392

I prefer guns with history.

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Old designs can be pretty cool.

Like the Savage 99. A lever-action rifle chambered in numerous rounds, including the .308 family.

The old west made some of the coolest if you ask me

My Curios and Relics collector status with the ATF dictates that I have to like old guns so I don't have to pay FFL fees and have all my guns shipped directly to me.

>>30137392
I actually love them, but then I'm all about history.

Its not because of the 'omg ww2 garand' thing, or because of a video game. Its about the story that guns tell of progression.

I'm fascinated by our methodical enhancement of firing mechanisms, from muzzle load to breech load to bolt and lever, to semi-auto and full auto. Even then the story is only half told, all of the strange, different ways we accomplished each of the stages, with weird, overcomplicated semis like a luger knuckle to the now classic slide. The mechanical differences they had because of either different methods of making a weapon work or because they were trying to reverse engineer a device they saw or heard about, its a picture into the desperation and ingenuity of mankind.

>>30137392
I honestly think all old guns should be destroyed. If owning guns is about self defense and fighting tyranny, than out dated models are better served as recycling.

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>>30137615

>>30137615
KYS

>>30137615
>Guaranteed replies

Also, how do you "ironically like" something?

>>30137684
that is an excellent question

>>30137615
Summer or Australian?

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you bet your ass I do

>>30137392
Some milsurp is pretty nice. Enfields are by far the most fun boltgun around, and if it weren't for pricey ammo, I'd shoot mine until the barrels smooth.

>>30137558
sooo unlike pic related which probably never fired more than a test shot?

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>>30137684

With the novelty of it being obsolete or having no purpose, yet still existing and being usable to an extent.

Hence why hipsters like vinyl. Nowadays, I'd say about 1 in 10 people actually give a fuck about sound quality (inb4 'dah bass is thumpin, yo') which is an aspect vinyl murders digital platforms in. But hipsters only seem to like spinning vinyl because it is now sort of obnoxious to change sides on an LP if you're having guests over, when shit like Spotify and YouTube exist, where you can hit designate a playlist.

It sort of forces people to notice what you're doing, so you can bask in the fleeting glory of being an attention whore.

That being said:
>I own a pretty decent size vinyl collection
>I also shoot a Yugo m24/47
>I genuinely love both without any sarcasm or irony and fuck you if you can't dig it.

>>30137392
Yes

>>30137954

Reload. My Enfield loves the cheap Sierra .311 150gr soft points.

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>>30137904
Enfield masterrace

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>>30137966

It's a genuine (T) sniper rifle. Probably refinished at the arsenal at some point.

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Yes.
a guy can like spooky salt guns AND have a cache of milsurp for range days.

>>30137985
Ive thought about getting into handloading 303, but i really don't know the first thing about it, and am slightly worried about blowing something up

>>30137615
Or, you know, they could be sold to people on a budget maybe? Or maybe thats the weapon system you are used to?

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>>30137991
yes

>>30138015
exactly. My AR might be a more effecient combat weapon, but my SMLE is forever seasoned with the blood and souls of dead huns.

>>30137548
>Old guns
>in games with futuristic or modern settings

Wew lad

>>30137392
I appreciate old guns as range toys and as pieces of history, but I wouldn't even consider using one for defence/combat.

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>>30138037

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>someone asks question about milsurp
>immediately becomes Enfield thread
let's get some variety
>both made within a few months of each other in early '42
>one rebuilt several times and seen heavy use
>other seemingly unissued and numbers-matching

>>30137392

If weapons held the souls of those they've slain, then older weapons would be full of ghosts. I prefer my gun to be old and full of human souls.

>>30137392

If weapons held the souls of those they've slain, then older weapons would be full of ghosts. I prefer my gun to be old and full of human souls.

>>30137392

If weapons hold the souls of those they've slain, then older weapons would be full of ghosts. I prefer my gun to be old and full of human souls.

>>30138046
You make me feel old.

>>30137581

If weapons held the souls of those they've slain, then older weapons would be full of ghosts. I prefer my gun to be old and full of human souls.

>>30138203
>>30138144
>>30138079
>>30138179

The fuck is going on here

>>30138046

Holy shit

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>>30138211

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>>30138046

>>30138229

Aww sheeeit, nigguh! H&R Sportsman up in here.

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>>30138269
Hell yis. Its my "Webley that will never be a Webley, but i can take it to the range and shoot it all day so its close enough" gun. Also its fun as fuck.

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Never.

>>30138297

Mine isn't half as nice looking as yours but the action is tight and I got it for $60. Shame they don't make new ones.

>>30138328

You don't need that to hunt

>>30137392
Yup. Just got a mauser m48 shipped in today, ill be picking it up tomorrow

>>30138328
Thats a lot of wood. You could start a pretty big bonfire in Ausfailia or the United Kuckdom with all that. It looks better in your house though, imo

>>30138046
10/10

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>>30137392
i like the lemat. its got 9 shots in the cylinder and another larger round thats fired from in the center of those 9

i have heard it was common for the center one to be like a buck shot like situation \

the only downside is that it doesnt fire self contained rounds. it uses blasting caps and each round has to be loaded after black powder

but it is a gun in real life that has alt fire. not to many of those if you dont count attachments

dont believe me check the wiki. i know wiki but its not like cnn or bloomberg talks about guns

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LeMat_Revolver

>>30138340
Honestly i dont like the finish on mine. It looks too new. Id rather it be a little bit darker, i just wish there was something i could add without having to refinish the whole damn thing.

Also its not as accurate as id like, but Im not entirely sure if its my lack of skill, or the rifle. The bores pretty clean, though.

>>30138046

...... tell me I'm not that fucking old.

Of course. There's a certain beauty to older guns that's less common today. The rounded edges of the smle magazine look fantastic. Also pan fed guns. Holy shit there's a boner if you've ever had one

>>30137406
Wow you really have no idea what youre talking about and clearly were born after 1980

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>>30138046

Top wew my lad

>>30138046
oh god im so old

>>30138386
>it uses blasting caps

So if glocks are grenades, these are the mining/construction bulk explosive?

Anyway, watch and learn (a bit, hopefully) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQ-uIMrzu-4

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Hell yes

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>>30138563
And again

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>>30138046

>>30138046
underage b&

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>>30137614
This guy gets it.
I love learning about the development history, manufacturing techniques and the people behind the older gun designs that shaped modern day arms. Imagining the work that had to go into building a swiss M1889 for example must've been an order of magnitude more involved then a modern AR platform, and you only really get an appreciation for that sort of precision craftsmanship by handling the old guns. The fact that you can shoot them too is the cherry on top

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>>30137615
> he did not post the 1911 "recycling" webm

>>30138702
what´s the top one?

looks like a mag fed needle-rifle

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>>30137392
Fuck yeah i do. The real question should be why are there people out there who dont like milsurp.

>>30138770

>why are there people out there who dont like milsurp.

I've met these people in real life. No appreciation for the finer things.

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>>30138765
it should, many of the design elements were ripped off the french Chassepot. It's a Model 1871/88 Dutch Beaumont/Vitali conversion. coolest thing about it is how the striker is driven by a "V" spring housed in the bolt handle

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If I had the money most of the guns i would spend it on would be milsurp and firing reproductions of old guns.

>>30138907
beautiful gun
thx for the info

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OP is a homo

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>>30137999
It's a good thing they sanded all the history out of the wood.

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>>30138046

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Ode to a Beater Enfield

The bore is sadly worn
it never will shoot well
The finish is rather faded
The stock's been beat to Hell
But I have some respect for this old rifle of mine
There's reason for its condition, it was made in 1939

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>>30036455
>Does anyone unironically like old guns?
Does op unironically love dicks?

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My cat does.
>Dem wooden stocks
>Comfy on the claws

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>>30138046
You know this makes you look like a retard right?

>He isn't shitting on enemy combatants with a Fred Prince Patent Breechloader

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>>30139622

It would help to attach the picture.

Hell yes I like old guns. I want an M48 Mauser and an M1 Garand, and of course a Nugget. Alas, I can't afford any of them at the moment.

>>30138328
Sir, I respect that collection more than I respect most people in my family. Very nicely done. With the Swiss rifles, is that a Gewehr 96/11or a Gewehr 11?

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>>30137392
Fuck yeah I love old guns.

>>30139736
>cant afford m48 mauser
I bought one recently for $350, and i was overpaying a bit

>>30137392

I appreciate them but there is a reason they stopped using them.

the reason is they suck compared to newer ones.

I still enjoy shooting my M1A though. If I had the choice between it and my AR15 with ACOG id take the AR all day erryday.

>>30137971
>sound quality
>which is an aspect vinyl murders digital platforms in.
bull
fucking
shit
This has been debunked dozens of times. It's complete horseshit. Lossless digital is an unimaginable amount better than vinyl, and even high bitrate MP3 has higher measurable quality. Vinyl only appeals to people because of the subjective experience
>muh timbre
>muh involved experience of smelling the vinyl and putting it on the turntable
>muh clicks and pops and hiss

>>30138196

>TFW kids deploying overseas right now were not even self aware when America was still a free country (pre 911)

They have literally been raised in a police state since child.

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I felt obligated to post this.

An enfield chambered in .30-06. Stamped for approval for WW1, made in 1918. Rifling is in fantastic condition. Apparently the dude I bought it off got it from an old lady who's husband passed and he owned it for 40-50 years.

When I pulled it apart and gave it a good cleaning the barrel, striker, the magazine, and a few other parts had a ton of cosmoline on them.

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>>30140366
>M1917
literally best bolt action rifle.

>>30140366
That would (probably) be an M1917 anon, the most fielded gun by the USEC in WWI.
Unless someone took a P14, took it to the US, and re-chambered it in 30-06.

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>>30140474
>That would (probably) be an M1917 anon,
It's most definitely an M1917.

P14s were what Winchester, Remington and Eddystone (a company Remington owned) were making for the British.

The ordnance department decided instead of asking a bunch of factories to retool to make springfields, it was cheaper and quicker to just retool those factories making p14s to chamber them in .30-06.

>>30140466
I don't have a lot of experience with bolts, but one thing that I do have a problem with is the cock on closing. This gun is going to get me into reloading though since .30-06 is fucking expensive.

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>>30137392
If this beauty doesn't tickle your taint there's something wrong with you OP

>>30140542
What's wrong with cock on close?

>>30140542
>one thing that I do have a problem with is the cock on closing
this means you are possibly German, or communist.

>>30139442
Conver it to fire .410 mate.

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>>30137615

>>30137392
Technically speaking, the AK-47 is an old gun. I like AK-47s, so I guess yeah?

Also M-14 and M1 Garand for dah win.

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>>30138047
So you're saying you could never imagine yourself grabbing a trusty nugget, getting up high and going full rooftop Korean?
c'mon, live a little

>>30137392
Yeah OP, old rifles are beautiful. I like the looks of the wooden furniture.

>>30138429

He's kind of right though. After the early 80's almost everything became exclusively CNC'd. which isn't neccesarily bad as it can make precise parts at a much faster rate. But that leads to companies wanting to takemore and more shortcuts to cut costs and maximize profits until eventually, they end up like Cerberus Group. They don't give a fuck what they put out as long as you buy it and the money goes to their coffers.

>>30140238
I have to save up $2500 in the next month to get my storage unit shipped most of the way across North America so I can stop sleeping on a fucking air mattress. Moving is expensive. Once that's done I can start buying guns and ammo, and probably will start with the M48 and a crate of 8mm Mauser.

>>30137548
Both started as ww2 games ya cuck

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>>30138328

Ya got all that shit but no Garand

>>30139442
Fuckin beautiful

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>>30137573
>savade 99
my nigga

>>30140564
>Heavy as shit
>Low cyclic rate
>muh .45 stronk

It's not an objectively good gun, but oh my god is it appealing to that funny part of your brain. Also firing one is fun, there's almost no recoil, and the noise indoors is unmistakable.

>THUNKTHUNKTHUNKTHUNKTHUNKTHUNK

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Two favorite guns desu senpai.

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>>30137392
I like the tangible history aspect and the fact that you can shoot them.
>'42 Izhevsk
>0 Series Nagoya
>'64 P1 Ex-Police
You know they saw some shit.

>>30137392
Of course, love the old stuff, like a link to the past, a big plus if mechanically unusual.

>>30140844

I know, right?

Really wish they'd bring it back. Would be fucking sweet with a .223 wylde chamber.

>>30138046
>the last COD game set in WW2 came out 8 years ago

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>>30137392
>>30137558
>>30137904
>>30137991
>>30137999
>>30138009
>>30138037
>>30138229
>>30138770
>>30139442

We lee enfield thread now

>>30140366
Mad jelly.

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>>30137558

>>30138229
Now this is just a beautiful picture

>>30140687
I think that was his point.

>>30140466
thats a weird way to spell type 99, friend.

>>30140861
>Heavy as shit
Manlet detected

>Low cyclic rate
>700 rpm isn't enough

>muh .45 stronk
>Ammo consolidation is a bad thing

It's not the best, but it isn't bad.
>It's not an objectively good gun
That's like, just your opinion man, not fact.

>>30138265
I always liked that map, you could really fuck some people up with the satchel charge

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>>30137615

>>30142036
hes right. it was one of the most unnecessarily overbuilt smgs of the era.

having said that, i will own one eventually

>>30142121
>it was one of the most unnecessarily overbuilt smgs of the era.
That's not what he said, though I would agree with that statement.

HK USC
or
Beretta cx4 storm
or
Thompson
or
PPSh
or
Suomi
or
MP40
?

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>>30138046
you fuckers feel old?

>>30142366
I remember how hyped I was for the Mighty 8th's release

>>30137615
are you implying antique rifles are no longer deadly? because if you are, you are stupid

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>>30142366
>MIG Alley

aww shit nigguh

that brings me back

remember this gem too?

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>>30138047
i would like nothing better than to deliver accurate rifle fire at extended range

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K98's are still used by Israeli police snipers. My uncle had one.

>>30142006
Meinneger.jpg

>>30138386

You're either underage or English isn't your tongue.

>>30140585
fuck no, just get a new barrel

>>30138386
You're like 13: get off of here before you destroy your life.

Leave this site and never, ever return. I mean it.

>>30142449
shit man I have not but looking at it I wish I had. would you say its worth a play nowadays?

>>30142496
is that an Israeli rebuilt Mauser?

>>30137392
That rifle specifically is one of the most aesthetically appealing things to exist IMO.

>>30139442
>it was made in 1939
No, it wasn't. That's not a trials rifle and they had been all built by '39 anyway. No4 production didn't start until '41.

Nice rifle though.

>>30140366
I really want an M1917, it might be my next gun.

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Enfield thread you say ?

>>30137392
yes, I think my newest gun is 70 years old

>>30137392
does anyone make reproduction enfields?

>>30143718
>does anyone make reproduction enfields?
Why would they? there's still assloads of originals.

not to mention making a batch of new ones would cost quite a bit more.

>>30137971
If you grew up with vinyl you appreciate digital.

I dont miss the hiss!

>>30143718
AIA is the closest you'll get

Cunt

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>>30142366
Now i do.

>>30138386
Thank you for that interesting post.

Lemat you say?

Blasting caps you say?

It wouldnt by chance be a black powder revolver now would it?

Stick with it kid. We were all new once.

>>30138047
>but I wouldn't even consider using one for defence/combat.
All I have is my sks and a really old cooey .22. Not exactly the best and the cooey is practically worthless as a defensive gun, but the sks will still put holes in a guy if I need it to

>>30143686
Is... that... cum??

>>30144003
Where do you think you are?

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>>30144003
welcum to /k/
now get out

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>>30142366

>Have an old copy of Silent Service II somewhere

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>>30144508
This was the first computer game my dad bought for his new 386 computer back in the early 90's

And even when new the computer could not have it's graphics cranked up as it wasn't powerful enough.

>>30144554

My first computer game was either Wolfenstein 3D or Commander Keen (I forget which), but I must've sunk thousands of hours into Silent Service II. Put a lot of time into the F16 game that was bundled with it, too.

Good memories.

>>30144634
F-19. My bad.

>>30137392
Kar98 is the reason I became hasguns; I loved that beautiful rifle since child.

>>30140905
Is that Colt Confederate a repro or...?

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>>30138328
>all dat wood
Stop, my penis can only get so erect

>>30144791
The frame and grip is a Pietta. Barrel and cylinder are Richlands Arms branded uberti imports from the 70s in .36. I have a .44 barrel and cylinder but the .36 shoots flatter.

if they were 19th century, i'd be a rich mother fucker considering the only known octagon barrel brass framed Navy copies are the Schneider and Glassicks. of which there are about 50 discovered IIRC

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>>30137392

I have a soft spot for anything from the world war era. Anything older can be fun, too. I'd love to get a replica musket. I don't care that much for 90% of newer guns, though. I might get an AR-15 eventually, but I'd rather get a few nuggets, an SKS, and a garand first. All I have right now is an sw m1905 and a 91/30 tula refurb.

>>30144828
well, you never know what you come across /k/, or at least that's what I like to think

anyway, beautiful piece anon, I'm getting a cartridge conversion navy & and a blackpowder confederate in .36 soon myself.
There's something about the Navy that just drives me nuts

>>30138328

this is a pretty ideal collection IMO, just about in line with what I'll eventually collect, except I'd get a few blackpowder guns and more revolvers.

>>30142434
If they're not called assault rifles on the news, how can they possibly be deadly?

>>30137392
i love old wood guns, just the aesthetic is enough for me to pick an old Yugo SKS over a new AR-15

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>>30144951
>There's something about the Navy that just drives me nuts
Well, imho the navy is sexiest of all the percussion colts.

I think Sammy boy fucked up when he rounded the barrel on the Army and new model navy. though the loading lever was definitely an improvement.

>>30143686
>cumming on her butt
>not cumming inside

>>30140741
I'm shopping for one at the moment, but I really am into bolt action

>>30140199
It's a k11, it is not a chopped down 96

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>>30138328
My M1917 was made in 1917 and still has the 1917 date on the barrel, sharp rifling with no pitting.

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>>30144827
All dat wood, all dis wood.

>>30145305
I was looking at one today, unfortunatly the bore was pitted but the rifling was strong beside that.

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>>30145305
>>30138328
Also, only the 91/30 and AK have an important mark on the receiver, the rest either have no import marks of the small one on the barrel, I look for non marked rifles.

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>>30142366
CoD2 and combat flight simulator were my jam.
>tfw bum rushing Germans with a grease gun
>tfw torpedoing German ships from the air

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>>30137392
I like bolt-action rifles, particularly the older ones.

Not just because I think they're cool, but also because of my love for history.

>>30140319

Wtf are you asping out about? All I said was Vinyl pressings shit on compressed YouTube and other streaming services that compress the quality. I'm not saying better, richer digital doesn't exist. Just hipsters dig the nostalgia and how obnoxious it is.

I personally kinda dig the pop and hiss. just makes the music seem more substantial in a way.

>>30138328
>all those bolt guns but no Krag–Jorgensen
c'mon, son!

>>30145824
Lol

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Milsurp? What's that? Why would I bother?

>>30145356
swedish mauser. my absolute favorite

>>30142366
>>30142379
>>30142449
>>30143749
>>30144508
No aces over the Pacific or Chuck Yeager Air Combat? Am disappoint.

>>30139736
>nugget
>Can't afford
How do you have internet in a cardboard box, m8?

>>30142496
>israeli's using german guns to kill ethnic minorities
It's like poetry.

>>30143686
You need to quit making her your toaster strudel and start making her your twinkie

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>>30146399
>Arabs
>minorities

Web lad

>>30137558
As a bonger this steeps my teabag
>Ifyoucomprehendmyinference.brassrubbing

>>30137615
>baitforthebaitgod.vhs

>>30146465
>arabs
>not a minority within israel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Israel

>>30145890
There are 2 in the photo

>>30145305
Have you pulled the barrel/receiver from the stock on it yet?

I know mine I posted earlier >>30140366, the barrel was fucking caked in cosmoline. The stock still bleeds cosmo when I take it shooting. I believe my barrel might be dated 1918, the year it was manufactured, but I haven't researched enough about all the proof marks to be able to say.

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>Does anyone unironically like old guns?
I unironically like my plum coulred bolthead.

>>30144997
god damn man they're beautiful

>>30142881
That ode was written for a No.1

>>30142559
Israel converted german k98s to 7.62 NATO.

You can find them here in the states, but they are mostly beat to shit.

>>30137392
I do...

>>30144508
>me, 8 years old
>playing SSII on my dad's computer
>torpedo some convoy full of nips or some shit
>destroyers close in and start depth charging
>whatever, I'll just speed up the time and wait it out
>I had been diving
>time scale -> max
>instantly hull ruptures as I crash into the bottom of the ocean
>wreathfloatingonwatertosadmusic.wmv

I took "Red Ramage" as my online handle after reading the stories in the manual. God, I fucking miss when games came with manuals. Nobody in grade school knew as much about WW2 naval action as I did!

>>30146911
There was a little bit of cosmoline on the barrel under the stock, but there was a lot in the trigger bolt and bolt release.

>>30138429
>Wow you really have no idea what youre talking about and clearly were born after 1980
bruh you'd best have been born after 1980 or else there's no excuse for this faggotry
Pick up an old 700 and compare it to what Remington shits out today sometime.

>>30145255
She broke my thumbnail in half, so she doesn't get anything more today

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>>30137573
I wish they would repro these and the Remington Model 8

>Tfw for some reason they dropped 2 really great civilian designs and then the market got flooded with American style Mosin nagants

>>30150568
Don't forget the Remington Model 6. Scout carbines before that was a word, in .308 and other big thumpy rounds.

>>30145338
even if the bore is pitted, as long as the rifling is strong you should be ok

>>30150568
As someone who owns a model 8, I completely understand why they stopped making them.

They are very finicky guns, any repairs are hard to stupid hard, and they are not super pleasant to shoot. Having the entire barrel recoil really throws off your aim.

An interesting historical piece and I wouldn't ever trade mine away, but they are rather picky.

>>30138211
ghosts

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>>30150594
It's better on the eyes than most scout carbines.
>>30150609
You think modern production could get rid of the problems or is it literally the action? I'd imagine the bullet exits before cycling or is it a problem for follow up shots?
Honestly i like the look if they could make one with Delayed Roller blowback or DGI I'd figure it'd be better

It's an ugly pretty gun

>>30150697
If they made it with a different action, it wouldn't be a model 8. Then what would be the point? It'd be like one of those plastic housings you drop a 10/22 action in, a sad imitation.

It is only a problem for follow up shots, mine is very accurate, but very picky on what ammo it likes. It likes hot loads and only specific bullets, or else it jams. When it jams, it tends to mangle the brass, which for 35 rem, is not great.

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The more beat-up, the better.

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>>30138046
Are there any armies that still use the M1 Garand in some sort of role besides ceremonial stuff?

>>30150953
Flip militias use just about everything.

Up to and including BARs

>>30150953
The Flips give them out to anti-insurgent militias.

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>>30138047
So you wouldn't go full Walt Kowalski?

>Get off my lawn

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>>30150953
NCR

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>>30142366
you're all kids...

Yea I love the enfield I use mine for hunting it's great

>>30151047
>Not pong
Quiet now, let the adults speak.

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Smoothest bolt throw and a really nice trigger.

If it weren't for the price of .303 that makes me spend an hour at the loading bench for every hour shooting, I would only shoot this rifle.

I have a bunch more milsurps, but they sit on the rack so long that you might as well call them decorations.

>>30151134
Aww man, are those bullets Sierra 2310 Soft points?

I use those in my .303s.

>>30151158
I can't confirm on the four digit number as I don't feel like digging the box out, but yeah those are Sierra soft points. Only ones I can find and even then they're stocked rare enough at the local stores that I buy a box or two whenever they are in stock.

>>30151177
powdervally, the website, normally runs a pretty good deal on thousand lots of them. Like 28 cents a bullet, if I remember right.

Anyways, they are great. Glad other people use them so they will keep making them.

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>>30151123
>implying Pong is a WW2 game

>>30151227
No I wasn't. I was replying to someone who was trying to be an oldfag to point out I am an older fag.

Also
>Implying Pong isn't a WW2 game
It's clearly about the futility of fighting in World War 2.

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>>30137615

>>30137615
This is probably one of the better bait statements I have read in a while. Pretty well thought out.

>>30140366
>1918
>.30-06
Shit I didn't even know it existed then

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>>30150836
It's a great look that screams west, nigga. If i could find a semi auto without a gas tube and/or piston and a monte carlo stock I wouldn't bitch so much.

There's only shit with pistol grips and plastic and the Ares SCR is no exception since they encourage state bans

>>30151477
caliber .30
cartridge of 1906
.30-06

>>30151634
Well, Model 8s generally run for less than a thousand, and aren't super uncommon. A model 81 is basically the same thing with a few minor improvements, so knock yourself out.

Go for a 300 sav or a 35rem, otherwise you'll be pretty boned as far as finding ammo goes.

>>30150607
There was some fairly deep pitting in at least one place though, about 3 or 4 inches from the muzzle. It would probably shoot reasonably straight, and the price was lower than a lot of others because of the bore. I think I'll go back for another look, they had the bolt in a draw or something while the rifle was on display but if everything matches I might pick it up.

It was a Winchester too, and I know Criterion makes new barrels so although it would cost more to eventually get it re-barreled if I did end up doing it I would get something that could really shoot.

>>30137392
I'd use my No. 4 all the time if the barrel wasn't shot to shit and ammo more than coffee each.

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>>30144508
Awwww shit.

I felt like the most badass 6 year old ever. Gunning down jap destroyers with the deck gun on my Gato. Until I played Silent Hunter and realized how shit I was a decade later.

Also played the shit out of Fighter Wing, which looking back on it was a shit flight sim. But my 6 year old ass loved it.

>>30140319
>I'm an audiophile
>I'll buy these retarded setups because I can fucking tell man
>The music has to be so fucking good or else I'll off myself

>>30138057
>Don't talk to me or my son ever again

>>30137392
yes. I just like them. I really dont know why. Something about the craftsmanship and the fact that they were made pre-robot factory. Also some of them have history to them and others are just fun as fuck to shoot.

>>30140564
>>30140861
Gun store near me has a neutered one for sale.....
I would kill for an original un bastardized one.

>>30144997
I would love one of these chambered in a modern revolver cartridge.

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>>30141457
Pardon the interruption, but I just scored this Federal Ordnance M98/85. I did some work for my father-in-law and he pulled it out of the gun safe and gave it to me. It's a Mauser (probably Spanish) that was imported by Federal Ordnance in the 1980s and retrofitted with a .308 winnie barrel. They scrubbed the original markings and stamped it with the great seal of the US, so original configuration is somewhat up for debate. It still has the proof case attached. I'm setting it up as a scout rifle with a long eye relief scope so I don't have to bend the bolt or make any other permanent modification. Apologies for shitty phone pic.

>tl;dr: scored a Mauser with a brand fucking new barrel

>>30147540
So did Federal Ordnance, for several years in the 1980s. Not just 98s, though. Whatever Mausers they could import cheap. See >>30155334.

Now I have an Arisaka the someone bubbaed into a nice .30-06, a MAS 36 in 7.5 Frog, a Romanian 44 nugget, a Mauser with a cool crest, a JC Higgins bolt action .22lr, a PA-63, a Mossberg bolt action 12 gauge goose gun, a black powder 12 gauge SxS, my grandfather's .410 Mossberg Ranger shotgun, and my great-grandfather's .22 H&R revolver. One of these days I'll buy a newer rifle, but it'll be a while. Love the old stuff too much.

>>30155334
>whem you find 70+ year old surplus in unfired condition
>when you find them all beat up and warish but with a perfect bore
I love this.

>>30137392
i love most guns in general, but i have a soft spot in my heart for milsurp.

>>30138010
research my good lad.

>>30140542
You can do a metric fuckton of differen things with a .30-06 if you're handloading for it. My converted Arisaka loves heavy loads. Max load of H335 + 150 grain Remmy psp bullets + Winnie brass = 1 ragged hole at 100 yards. And it'll handle hella light or hella heavy bullets, too.

>>30151746
>>30151477
Adopted 1906. Original designation was .30-03, as the cartridge was designed in 1903.

>>30138010
Reloading is easy and simple. Get a single stage press, calipers, neck sizing die (don't size the whole case for milsurp, they sometimes have sloppy chambers and your cases will last longer with just a neck die), something to measure powder by weight, and go for it. Start with the lowest recommended load for the powder/bullet combo you have in mind and step up 1/2 grain of powder at a time. Load three each. Shoot a group with each powder weight, waiting 2 minutes between groups. The tightest pattern is the amount of powder your gun likes best. Use it. Check for signs of pressure (busted cases, flat primers, et cetera) as you go up. My .30-06 likes max loads, my 7.5 Frog likes them in the middle.

>>30155378
And I got it for putting in a wheelchair ramp for my mother-in-law, which I did with no expectation of any kind of payment. Cool move for a crotchety old fart. I just ordered a ton of cheap ammo and a scout scope setup. I'm gonna play with this one.

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>>30137573
I have one in .300 sav

>>30142496
It's like pottery

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>>30137392

Love em.

>>30142036
>manlet detected
apparently entire U.S army was bunch of manlets since they switched to M3

>>30144997
own one, it is currently at gunsmith getting "no spent caps in action" modification

>>30155334
Make certain the magazine feeds reliably, a lot of old Mauser conversions half-assed that step and won't feed.

>>30156832
apparently you can do that by just replacing the nipples
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pp1rpikmB3U

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>>30156832
Majority of the Colts and their clones problems lie with the groove cut into the hammer to act as a safety. When a cap goes boom a little bit of the cap just loves to get caught on it.

JB weld and some sandpaper could have taken care of it.

That said, i like the notch, so i shoot my Navy clone like they did back in the day.

>>30156951
i went with this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwrM7TE9eJI

>>30137558
What do those Full wood Enfields go for? there is only one for sale around where I am and the guy wants $600

>>30159252
They''re more $3-400 guns, and that's for nice examples.

>>30137392
All I really want in my collection that I'll never have are an original Sharps .45/70, an original 1873 Winchester and an original pair of Smith and Wesson Model 3s...

>>30138046
>tfw no more running around port authority as the nazi in underpants spraying and praying with the bar as you fling grenades like a mad cunt
feels old man

>>30159252
If you're west canadian, will sell you one for $100. Shit condition, needs a new stock. The farmer who gave it to me used it for two seasons then left it in a garden shed for 50+ years

>>30137392


I spotted the /v/irgin making his first thread

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>>30138046


Oh fuck its summer isn't it

>>30155334
Hey buddy that's probably a Spanish 1916 Mauser. Built on the m93 action with 2 locking lugs and originally fired 7mm Mauser. There are 3 different patterns of the Spanish 1916. Yours is a LA gaurdia civil rifle converted to 7.62 nato. The under rifle sling mounts are the give away for LA gaurdia civil service.

That rifle was made for the 7mm Mauser cartridge and only has 2 locking lugs. The m98 Mauser has 3 lugs and wad made for 8mm. 98s a great for converting to other high pressure modern cartridges. Your 2 lug 93 action Mauser is a different story. Look up pressure differences in the 7mn Mauser Vs 8mm and 7.62 nato.

All this being said I would fire 7.62 nato in it but not. 308 Winchester. Preferably slightly under pressure handloads in 7.62 specs. They have the "same pressure and same dimensions" but that's not really true they're just very similar kind of like. 223/5.56. Ever hear of the. 223 wylde chamber? It's designed to handle pressure spikes caused by firing either ammo in the wrong chamber. End result is chamber that can safely handle both.

Tl;Dr it's a mauser 93 action. Spanish 1916 is the model rifle. Arsenal referb for Spanish "national Guard" service. Cool rifle and I want to add one to my Mauser collection soon. It's only got 2 locking lugs so be weary of higher pressure cartridges. Anyone that says anything about "soft steel" is an idiot. The 2 locking lugs is the issue that causes these Rifles to explode.

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>>30159599
One day this meme will die.

Today is not that day however.

>>30159610
You made me go check. 2 locking lugs at the front of the bolt, one in back.

>>30159610
>>30160253
Forgot to mention they did a lot of mix and match stuff. Stock could have come off another action, no way to know. They proofed it at 150% .308 pressure, so standard .308 should be fine. I'll check for pressure signs when I start to handload for it, though. I'm careful about that shit.

>>30150953
I think the Navy uses them.
I don't remember.

>>30159992
>implying Moot wasn't a lying kike

>>30146287
Battle of Britain? Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe?

>>30160253
OH damn you got a Spanish m43 or m44 then. Probably an m43. I'm looking at one to purchase that's got the LA gaurdia civil furniture on it too though it's in original 8mm. I thought the only m43 converted to 7.62 were the fr8. You have an interesting piece... Can I request more pictures? I'd love to see the reciever markings and the marks on the barrel!

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>>30160692
Only other one I have, not with it at the moment. They scrubbed the original markings and put the same US seal that's on the back of a dollar bill on it.

>>30160767
Well that picture is shit. I'll take some with a real camera later and post them.

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>>30150953
I remember the South Vietnamese being given a bunch. So the commies may have a few in inventory

>>30137392
I like my Jungle Carbine. Makes a good brush gun. I'd never buy a milsurp/old rifle that didn't serve a purpose, though.

>>30159992
>That much
So it still increases

>>30144508
Hell yeah! I played that on my Tandy 1000 HX in high school. I still have it somewhere.

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>>30138046

>>30161389
"that" much could be as few as 100 more visitors than the average.

and i seriously doubt anything short of a few thousand can influence the amount of shitposters.

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>>30137558

>>30162848
It could be as few as 1 more than average, or it could much higher than that.

>and i seriously doubt anything short of a few thousand can influence the amount of shitposters.
I think that depends on where the traffic goes, and how often shitposting/retardation happens there outside of summer. There may not be much more shitposting, but we might notice the minor increases despite that.

Regardless, it still seems like the shitposting and retardation is worse in summer, at least to me.

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>>30162898
Winchester M1, built in 1942. Refurbished and rebarreled in 1953. Original wood, There are tiny diviots all along the rith side of the buttstock where GIs smacked enblock clips point first into the wood to even them up before loading them in the rifle.

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>>30162971
S&W 455 MkII Hand Ejector. shipped back to the U.S. some time in the 1920's. Since .455 Webley was hard to come by in the States, many were either shaved to accept moon clips for .45acp or were rechambered in .45 Colt. This one was cut for moons. You can still shoot .455 if you modify a moon clip so that the cartridge headspaces properly.

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>>30163024
1939 Russian Nagant.

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>>30137392
take a guess at what gets me off

Reminder that if your rifle isn't wood then you can be sure it was taken from the tree of liberty and watered by the blood of patriots and tyrants.

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>>30164717
*can't oh well here's some aesthetic to absolve myself

History of a firearm is always interesting to me.

I'm all about the Mechanics.
All about the evolution of the firearm.
I fucking love it, Like it's my favourite thing about a gun.
It's fucking insane, these things are created in order to fling a piece of lead as accurately as possible using a chemical reaction, and the mechanics behind it to cycle a new round and discard the casing. Man it just gets me going.
I want to fucking BUILD these things.
All the little features about it,
we started with Muzzle loaders, ramming the powder down the barrel. And now we have electronically fired rounds that can empty an entire magazine before the recoil from the first round is felt..

>>30155444
.30-03 and .30-06 are two different cartridges, both named for the year they were adopted by the military.

>>30155334
you shouldnt use .308 in that. the spanish used 7.62x51 cetme at that time, which is a reduced 7.62x51 load. it might kaboom if you use .308.

>>30164817
3 lugs, friend. Started life as 8mm.

>>30164801
Nawp.

>>30137392
Yes. My 1915 Lee Enfield is my favorite rifle.

>>30164817
7.62 cetme was for the early model cetme Rifles. Was designed to offer increased control on full auto. The round was only for that purpose. The bolt actions fired the nato load.

That being said,. 308 in a 1916 chambered in 7.62 nato is no Bueno. Different pattern Mauser with only two lugs and it started life as 7mm Mauser. I would fire 7.62 not. 308 from one. There are slight dimensional differences between the two and pressure spikes can be caused by loading in the wrong chamber. Even 7.62 nato has a much higher pressure than 7mm Mauser so it's still kind of questionable.

Anyways the Mauser in question has 3 lugs so all is good.

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>>30138328
>being able to fit all your milsurp into 1 picture

What, is this high school?

>>30138907
ive had my 71/88 for over 10 years and still havent found ammo for it.

>>30164817
>>30169223
I did some looking into the history of the gun. Apparently almost all of those were made from Spanish #44 Mausers. My action looks like most of the pictures I see online purporting to be Spanish M44 Mausers. The Spanish Air Force used them. The action started life as an 8mm Mauser. Furniture on my stock matches the infamous FR-8 conversion with the original side sling mounts left in place and belly mounts added later. The length of the stock doesn't, though. It's a full 38 inches long. I'll keep looking at this particular rifle's history and see what I can come up with. I got a feeling it's largely going to be speculation. I also have a feeling it's a shame somebody pulled the shroud off the front sight. I ordered a bunch of cheap TulAmmo in .308 and a scout scope kit. When those get here, I'll take the rifle apart and check for hidden markings, put the scope on it, and go to the range. I'll post what I get in a thread here in a couple of weeks. It's a rifle with an interesting history and a clean bore. What more could a milsurp dork like myself want?

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>>30138046
Anon isn't wrong

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>>30172349

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>>30172360
This is the M1Garand in Advanced Warfare.

They have a ton of old shit , from STGs, MP40s, M1911s, Lever Actions, fucking muzzle loaded muskets and I'm pretty sure there's some kind of non ASM1 Thompson in there .

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>>30138563
Heil yes.

>>30145876
>Mosi-shit

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>>30137615

>>30141253
shit
>tfw have COD:WAW installed on computer still

>>30138049
>>30138037
>guns
>brit flag
Its like a visual oxymoron

>>30138328
I'm in between a k11, a Finnish Mosin m39, or trying to find a k31 online. Any thoughts?

Also, what is the longer swiss rifle you have there?