Last ones dying, so here's another ome
I like my system as it is right now.
Had some disappointing experience at the milsurp shop looking for an ALICE rucksack, and all the internet sources I've found have been sketchy at best.
http://www.amazon.com/Serbian-OD-Small-Rucksack-Used/dp/B0058CX048
Is this good to start removing kebab with? Or is it too small?
>>30118490
is this a no bullying edition ?
>>30118554
i thought you had a problem with the medkit and were going back to green?
>>30118556
it's hard to fuck up a bucket sack. it is big enough for really basic stuff. you can put a rolled up wool blanket wraped in a tarp on the slings at the bottom and fill it with food vodka and ammo.
what went wrong at the surplus store?
>>30118589
I don't feel a need for it, and I'll return my panel to an actual chest rig.
But I've reached a happy place with my gear.
>>30118589
They had ALICE packs, but they were pretty beat up, had names scrawled on them, and didn't come with the frames.
And to top it all off, they were no less than $75
I should have routed that hydration tube better
>>30118623
>that environment
>not wearing pencott greenzone
in
>>30118639
>wearing special snowflake camo unironically
>>30118623
Multicam Tropic looks sick as fuck, kind of want to buy a pair of G3s in them, but I might just buy Khaki ones so I can wear them in public
>>30118558
There isn't anything wrong about someone criticizing your body if you're out of shape. It's just one /fit/fag went and sperged out at the last thread and made an ass of himself.
On topic talk now, I'm getting an M&P9 with my work bonus coming in a month or so. I'm gonna need a good holster to go with it. I was looking at the Safariland 6377 ALS Belt Holster. Looks good for innadesert stuff. Opinions on Safariland stuff?
One or the other along with a Swedish LK35 pack with basic innawoods/innamountains gear.
The SLR104 currently has a 1P63 Obzor on it, and I'll swap out the BHP with an HK P30L whenever I feel like one or the other.
>>30118639
>pencott greenzone
That shit looks SO GOOD< BUT I can't justify the price for new gear
>>30118639
only pencott I'll buy is the snow version
>>30118661
why not both?
>>30118664
safariland is good shit
Anybody run goggles? I'm thinking about it but I'm not sure where to start
Thinking of buying my first carrier with some of the deals going on today.
Would y'all recommend multicam or coyote? Both blend quite well with the parts of south Texas I live in, so it's more just down to looks/preference.
>>30118728
Some advice just from my experience. Your taste in camo will probably change (I went from multicam to digi flora) so get the expensive gear (PCs, chest rigs, belts, etc.) in solid colors so you can wear them with whatever camo without camo mixing like a heretic. Wish I had gotten this rig in Ranger green, but I didn't think ahead last year and selling it wouldn't be worth it.
>>30118712
I've used the smith optics boogie regulators for quadding and simple shit, otherwise I just use glasses. Goggles tend to fog much quicker
>>30118749
I did the same, pretty much. I was super stoked about my Multicam carrier. Was notified that only SWAT wears Multicam and they are identified in that way, so as a plainclothes fugitive team guy, I couldn't. I've been running a Mayflower APC in Ranger Green and have an LBT 6094 in Ranger Green on the way. Definately take the advice about getting solid color kit. I think it looks classier anyway.
On a side note, I convinced a buddy to get a Shellback Banshee to have something to throw on and make it easier than the Protech giant stupid soft vest we get issued that takes 10 min and 3 guys to put on. He bought an APC instead because Shellback now charges $224 for a Banshee. WT literal F? That was Shellback's niche! Cheap, pretty good USA made carriers. Now they are competing with Mayflower APCs, TAG Vanguards, and frankly, they lose...
>>30118821
I have these and I like them, but they get scratched easy as fuck and the foam is already peeling up
>>30118887
As a plainclothes guy do you concealed carry for the job? Or you just wear a retention holster?
>>30118612
holy fuck, that store must not being doing very well. i bet they had a bunch of cheap novelty survival shit and propper pants.
>>30118606
i see.
>>30118664
i'm jelly as fuck m&p 9s are hard to get in california. I could get a neutered shield but i want a full size.
>>30118728
this >>30118749
get coyote or ranger green, you can always spray paint it later too.
>>30118679
why not just use a dc3r if you are only gonna have a few mags and you already have the clips on there?
>>30118712
I've held off on them until i can find ones that work really well. i heard that the boogie regulators fog up really bad when you aren't moving. i have shitty shooting glasses and them fogging up while i'm bench rested is the bane of my existence. I caught a piece of a 9mm round in the lips last time i was at the range tho. I was sitting on the other side of the range from the pistol lane and some guy was slamming steel and a piece of spall just found me at the right angle to embed it's self in my lips. so yeah goggles, let me know when you find ones you like.
>>30118712
I've been using Boogie Regulator Sport goggles for the last couple months, they've held up surprisingly well.
>>30118887
>Shellback now charges $224 for a Banshee. WT literal F? That was Shellback's niche!
hypalon aint cheap, those new carrier they make are pretty neat. you can still get the 500d banshes for like 180. im looking at a listing right now.
>>30118623
>>30118698
i'm starting to come around on that coat.
it does look pretty good inna woods.
>>30119334
its one of my favourites to bum around in the house or innawoods.
I think I'm gunna start doing some mods to it, like either pit zips or stretch material under the pits to aid in venting.
>>30118589
Dude you look like some urban terrorist i hope you will not go out like this when something happens or peoples will be very trigger happy when they saw you.
>>30118589
you still look like haji, but at least youre owning up to it now.
My minimalist/greyman/Chris Costa setup.
>>30119192
Yeah gonna upgrade the trigger on it too. The stock one ain't bad but my buddy's Apex trigger is god tier. So I wanna get that for it too.
>>30118589
>you can put a rolled up wool blanket wrapped in a tarp on the slings
Seeing some decent quality blankets on the internet, but is there anything one specifically you'd recommend rolling under this rucksack?
>>30119484
LIFT
>>30118661
>Not know the love of DPM
>M8 I feel bad for you.
>>30119505
Man, Rico was a fuckin' dyel
>>30119398
nobody cared who i was until i put on the mask
>>30119411
ho ho ho, you are so clever and original
>>30119496
http://www.selfrelianceoutfitters.com/100-wool-blanket/
lay out a brown or green water proof tarp and lay this blanket on top and roll that shit up with your axe in the center.
i have a czech wool blanket thats pretty ok. its not as nice or as large as the one i linked but they are cheaper.
Does anybody have any suggestions on a warbelt? I've been considering the HSGI sure grip, but i'm indecisive. Other options on minimalist and relatively light weight setups would be nice. I plan on running small subgun types of things. I.e. SBR Mac-11 and SBR AR. Thanks guys.
>>30119554
naw man people just weren't all juiced up on cow hormones back then
Seriously though what a dweeb
>>30112204
Mm good to know. My comms are basic: BF-F8+ with a standard battery/antennae and throat mic. I keep it on the right and it's never been a hassle, but I imagine the antennae's not as...feisty
>>30112682
I'd like to think each of us is a healthy mix of all the above. But thanks
>>30118749
wisdom
>>30118940
Plainclothes at my agency wears Safariland ALS paddle holsters OWB. It's the undercover guys who wear IWB holsters. I want to be noticed as a Deputy, just only when I'm ready.
>>30119496
Not him.
Go with Italian Wool blanket they're pricey compared to the other surp wool blankies, but they're sought after for a reason.
You can find them on eBay.
I used to use to German border guard wool blanket wrapped it in a Russian rain cape, and put that in my hellcat's molle 2 sleep system pouch.
>>30119629
high threat concealment if you want to be full operato
>>30119629
could always go full haram and get a HTC belt system.
beyond that Tyr tactical makes a good belt, so does crye with the AVS belt.
for a simple belt the beltman makes some good ones as does Ares Gear.
>>30119658
they need to hurry up with that Sphinx holster so I can get on that train
>>30119658
Okay, Why do you suggest this over others? I dont wanna be some try hard faggot but I have seen some videos on that stuff and it looks neat.
>>30119671
when i buy my slick carrier, im gonna get one.
>>30119688
i just suggested it because its streamlined and minimalistic. personally i would only use this for concealment stuff because i wear clothes that cover my belt line and dont tuck in my shirt when im wearing gear. so i need a belt that goes over all that.
>>30119658
>not building your own system from Raven Concealment and Blade tech parts
enjoy having hot mics all day and having AR mag pouches that only fit mags in one direction.
>>30119629
Depends on how much ammo and pouches you need. If you don't need to carry much more than a pistol, 2/3 pistol mags, and 2/3 long gun mags, a rigger's belt will be fine. Just attach kydex pouches. Advantages being that you can easily scale up and down by removing or adding additional pouches. If you really need to carry a lot, like IFAK + radio + other support gear, then a padded warbelt (suregrip is fine).
>>30119734
>fit mags in one direction.
why is this a issue? rounds rearward is the superior way.
>>30119640
>but I imagine the antennae's not as...feisty
it's not a big deal with my pc but with the chest rigs it can be annoying. i still have the normal antennae.
>>30119734
>implying i have one
i just have two clip on mag holders and an ares belt
>>30119734
Well, i'm a complete manlet but I plan on keeping it light and easy to manage. So only a few mags of each would probably be fine and I'm thinking that a backpack of sorts for all the other essentials will probably be in order. But thanks guys!
>>30119748
No big deal for individuals but it's still poor design. Could easily make them ambi like every other Kydex mag pouch on the market.
>>30119758
>reading comprehension
The HTC AR15 mag carriers only take the mag in one orientation, either bullets forward or bullets back. If they literally removed some material they could be ambi. My preferred mag carriers are Ready Tactical, like yours, or Blade Tech.
>>30119821
could it not be so the kydex is more form fitting and lower profile as such?
>>30119838
Look at >>30119758's Ready Tactical pouches, you don't get much more minimalist than that. HTC knows they can charge some pretty ridiculous prices because of their DSS contract and the cool guy factor. Given the concerns I've heard about the holsters coming too tight and pushing guns out of battery, the hot mic situation, and the overall rigid design of the belt, I have a hard time justifying Raven Concealment prices (or more) for HTC stuff.
hope everyone enjoyed some good prices on ammo today
>>30119316
That inflation tho. First came out at $149.00 then went to $169.00, now $224? Too many flaws and too many better options at that point. I've owned one. It was fantastic for $149 or even $169. But I would take the Mayflower APC for $220 before I took the Banshee. I would take a TAG Vanguard for $209 before the Banshee. I would take the old HSGI Weesatch/Wasatch at $220 over the Banshee. There are just too many systems with way fewer flaws at the same price now. The appeal of the Banshee was that it was an entry level but high quality US made carrier. A step above all the Condor kinda stuff. But it seems like Shellback got a little too excited when people started snatching them up and didn't realize that they were snatching them up because of the price:quality ratio as opposed to them having a godsend system.
>>30119484
>DBAL set back further like a professional.
Mah nigga
>>30119939
>holsters coming too tight and pushing guns out of battery
people do realize that they have adjustment screws right?
all my otghex holsters have been tight as fuck from factory until I tightened them to what I need them.
theres a reason it uses a phillips head
I need a small chest rig.
>hold 4x pmags
>hold Baofeng radio
>have a large pouch to put random shit in
>hold 2x pistol mags
>is affordable
This is what I'm thinking of doing. Other recommendations are very welcome.
>>30120312
tac tailor mini mav
>>30118674
What rig is that?
Just picked up a Mission Spec EOC. In the process of moving mags to it from my belt. Been running a few competitions with the belt.
>>30118556
On the smaller side and you will have issues with heavier loads. Good as a cheap sustainment pack with water/ammo and a waterproof shell on the bottom straps. Don't buy it on amazon, it's $7 on varu.
>>30120408
Ants
>>30120312
if I was in your situation
I would go with a chicom type 81, and a gas mask bag as my GP.
>>30120408
https://kommandostore.com/south-african-defense-force-pattern-83-chest-rig/
>>30120263
Apparently it had something to do with connecting the holsters to the rest of the belt increasing the tension on the holster. So they worked better if they were attached separately instead of the recommended way.
>>30120312
Chicom rig and a surplus european rucksack. Much more comfy and versatile than condor.
>>30120437
I've failed you all
>>30120448
Thanks brother!
>>30119987
links?
sites?
cant find em
>>30118490
Would it be wise to get the
gruppa99 T60 pack and T10 frame?
I thought if I didn't like it can always sell it for a fair bit of shekels.
pic related
>>30120455
well interesting, is this still an issue or what
>>30120519
No idea. I'd ask around on lightfighter or something, I think one of the mods and several members there work for DSS and get this stuff issued. Also heard something about an issued Raven Concealment setup, which I am curious about.
>>30120513
Gruppa 99 is just way too overpriced.
>>30120590
compared to
Mystery Ranch
Arcteryx
Hill People
and the other high-speed gear it seems pretty reasonably priced in comparison
Need some advice here.
I want to get a lightweight chest rig just for whatever, but SKD only has black and multicam for their 3-cell Brig rig. Ideally I would get Ranger Green to blend with my Gorka, but that's not in stock.
Would you guys pick black or multicam? I live in California coast area btw.
>>30120691
I have a 4 cell panel in RG I could sell you, if you're interested.
>>30119484
>Greyman
>tactical pants, earmuffs, and clearly visible holster
>>30120710
Ehhhh, I like the slimmer profile of the 3-cell. Sorry, m8
>>30120682
i'm disappointed that isn't a bacon themed mug.
>>30119652
What jacket?
casual bump
>>30120437
I think this should be a little better
Standing by
>>30121106
how are the PIG gloves?
I was thinking about copping some cause I heard they were nice
>>30119484
Does the laser not hit your hands when you're using the pressure pads?
>>30120408
It's a South African Pattern 83 rig. They're all over eBay. I bought mine for around $25 shipped about a year and a half ago. They're currently sitting at around $35.
>>30121142
They are okay, the thin material and vents let you feel what youre touching. But the gloves have a serious downside:
>be in the cold
>vents in the gloves freeze hands off
>be taking a suppressor off
>vents in the gloves let it burn me
>be operating in bush
>vents in gloves start to rip because of things snagging
Basically if you do anything but airsoft/jerking it to these threads you will see the contact points of the gloves wear out quickly.
>>30118712
I run revisions with the fan kit and Rx insert.
>>30121157
No. The laser is unobstructed but the thumb does get in the way of the illuminator which isn't that big of deal.
>>30121177
mechanix then?
>>30121239
is that with the visible or ir laser? with or without gloves?
>>30121240
I have Mechanix FastFits and for ~$10 I love 'em.
Definitely a warmer weather glove though. I have some Oakley SI Lightweights too and they're pretty decent as well.
Some anon last thread wanted to see more of my AMD-65 so here
>>30120312
AWS Strike rig seems to fit the bill
And they're only like $100
>>30121406
holy LOP Batman
I love the rattlecan job though. If I had confidence I could get the same result I'd definitely do it for both my AR and AK
>>30121300
It's the A3 model so the IR and visible lasers are slaved and both useble.
>>30121423
LOP?
Also spraypainting is mega easy
Like I literally took three different colors and speeded out on the gun
>>30119595
With those eyes i will start to care rly soon ...
>>30120424
>searches Varu
>sees this
http://www.myvaru.com/
Are you memeing me?
>>30122148
look up varusteleka, that should be the right place.
>>30119484
Are you a girl
>>30122156
10 dollars for international delivery, amigo. The most I'd be saving is probably a dollar.
>>30120831
arktis b110
I could be retarded or smert
I bought 2 softshells one being pic related, and a summer trouser for $150 USD
If given the choice between a medium and large ALICE pack, which would you take?
The large looks fucking monstrous.
>>30122248
Large, no questions asked.
>The large looks fucking monstrous
It really isn't.
>>30122248
>>30122257
This.
but I do like the looks of medium ALICE pack hellcat mod.
>>30118640
I like how you 'take' mega men... if you know what you mean....
>>30122257
>>30122262
http://www.armysurplusworld.com/product.asp?ProductID=44945
This look good? I'm a bit iffy about what the "good" condition entails.
>>30122268
You could go
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MILITARY-ALICE-PACK-LARGE-OD-GREEN-RUCKSACK-w-FRAME-Kidney-Pad-/262461086697?hash=item3d1be65be9:g:V4cAAOSwdsFXTH-N
>>30122282
Fuck me that's tempting. The repair work looks pretty good.
>>30121420
wow these look pretty cool. ill look more into these aws offerings, thanks.
also, why are ar500 plates frowned upon in these gearfag threads?
>>30119484
you have very feminine hips anon.
nice gat tho.
>>30121106
your floorplates are on backwards.
>>30118640
Mate that shirt is gonna pull all the african bitches
>>30119595
If I took off the mask, would you die?
>>30118664
Safari land or nothing honestly. As far as retention holsters go anyways.
>>30122349
ar500 has trouble stopping the high velocity rounds at close range, like m193 out of a 20" barrel. It's heavy, and without any kind of coating the spall can cut you up.
Muh leftover issued gear
>>30123295
>>30123310
Lookin good hoss
>>30123310
>>30118640
thread needs more arm hair
>>30121240
High-Abrasion Resistant masterrace. They'll get lost before they wear out. Only drawback: they come exclusively in the OG mechanix red flavor
brother's got a pair of the fast fits and I can definitely appreciate them. You're right though - utility gloves offer scant protection from elements like water and the cold
>>30121406
I can see some laundry bag mesh on there...what else did you use?
>>30120342
Mini mav can't really support all that. Do you even have one?
>>30121762
are you hitting on me anon-kun
>>30123211
it would be extremely pleasurable
>>30123628
>thread needs more arm hair
>>30119496
>>30118556
I use one for camping/bushcraft. It's significantly smaller than an ALICE pack, infact it's designed to be able to use as a satchel/haversack by removing one strap and adjusting the other.
It's a great pack though. Only problem I had was with it was the fold out "sack". I thought it was for a water bottle or a jacket. Either way, it tore.
Other than that though, solid pack, I recommend it.
>>30123628
>High-Abrasion Resistant masterrace
How do the fingers feel in regards to precise manipulation of stuff? The heavy duty stuff looks great for durability but they look like they could be a bit clumsy.
>>30125072
So I put on a fast-fit and an HAR for comparison (HAR on the left)
Couple of notes:
As you can see, the materials are very different. The fast-fit (which I assume is like an OG mechanix with elastic wrist closure instead of velcro) features a consistent suede type leather on the palm and fingers. The HAR has a 'clarino' on the fingers which is much smoother, and less stretchy. It feels marginally thicker, but actually moves with your fingers better. The suede tends to get stretched and baggy, especially with the lil suede hairs getting caught loading up mags. OG mechanix seem to get loose whereas the HAR actually break-in to fit your hand better
>>30124216
witness
>>30125693
>witness
my body hair is just light enough that it doesn't show up on camera and just dark enough to make me look really hairy in person.
>>30125693
Thanks famalam I will probably go with the HAR then. You also inspired to get my first chicom rig which just arrived in the mail. Need to get some ranger baseplates for my AR mags now.
>>30124317
Hipster gear queer
>>30126618
>bushcraft gear is hipster now
why even do anything anymore.
How shit are Tru Spec hats? I ordered a 5.11 just to be told that they were backordered until late August AFTER waiting two fucking weeks for the rest of my gear to get here.
I have a Condor but it's absolute shit (like all Condor products) and I want to replace it.
So today my landlord told me that a solider abandoned his apartment and asked if I wanted a plate carrier that was left behind.
Of course I said yes, so here it is. I think it might be a size too small because it feels really snug even after I adjusted it. Anyways, I was wondering if this US military gear. I can't really tell because all the tags in it have the words rubbed away from use. There is some number written in sharpie underneath the front velcro flaps if that is any indication that this plate carrier was once property of the military
>>30118556
>>30124345
i went ahead and bought one too. gonna add it to my cheap surplus collection.
>>30126723
Looks like ABU. Well it sorta does. Something looks off.
>>30126723
Yeah, that's an airman's plate carrier. They issued them in Afghanistan to JTACs and other guys that would actually go into the field until OCP started being issued.
>>30126857
Makes sense considering that there is an air base on the edge of town. I'm pretty happy I got this for free since I imagine its pretty expensive if the military used it.
So what's everyone's opinion on putting an anti glare device on the end of your optic. My Vortex Strikefire came with lenses covers and they work to protect the lenses but I was wondering if those anti glare attachments would also protect the front lens. Any experience with pic related?
>>30126990
They work. On non-magnified optics they screw with my eyes shooting past 200 yards so I don't usually keep them on.
>>30127010
Oh shit I didn't even think about that. Farthest I shoot with the unmagnified red dot is about 200yrds or so out anyway. Any farther than that unmagnified and I can barely even see what I'm aiming at. Last time I went innadesert I was shooting at a propane tank someone stick on a stick about 300 yards from where I was set up. I couldn't hit shit. After I threw on my magnifire it was a bit more manageable.
What's a good OWB holster for an innawoods bear duty glock 29?
Ideally, i want something that I can also use at the range for draw practice with some of my other pistols. I'm sure a 1911 and a USP would fit in the massive hole needed to house 10mm austrian brick. As long as the holster is not sealed at the muzzle area.
>>30118490
HEY GEARQUEERS
What would you pay for a fully-equipped Eagle Maritime CIRAS with pouches and soft armor? (mag, medic, admin, hyro) in very good shape in coyote tan?
I'm gonna liquidate some stuff for a new car soon and am considering this
>>30127164
tree Fiddy
honestly, go on eBay and check the prices they're going for and undercut the competition. Enjoy your nothing but profit sale.
>>30127148
i just bought a glock 29 as bear spray too, so im looking for the same sort of shit you are. i was looking at a kenai chest holster, as i would be outdoorsing while carrying it and i think it looks handy
>>30127220
Looks cumbersome, and desu actual bear spray would be lighter and more effective
>>30127236
i think they look slick as fuck, and less annoying than on the hip
>>30127236
>Looks cumbersome
how? and bear spray is for fags
>>30127148
I believe those dildos in the back would fit your needs
>>30127276
>>30127236
>>30127220
What we need is a bear spray underbarrel attachment. Kind of like those tiny bayonets for pistols
>>30127307
>million dollar idea
>also make it the same profile as common weapon lights for holsters
>>30126699
I like my tru spec gear. My 24/7 pants are pretty nice. Not super awesome quality but for ~$40 on amazon they aren't bad. Only problem I've had is the flashlight pocket tore on the left side of mine because my light is a little too big for it.
>>30127307
>>30127332
make it a high pressure popper shaped like a 5 hour energy with solid walls that screws into a fixed mount. with a circular trigger that comes off the right side of the thing and just up tot he trigger guard on the glock. so you reach your finger up and into the loop and pull back and that makes it pop and spray a charge. then you have the option of firing your weapon quickly or screwing it out and screwing a new popper in.
>>30127370
Time to start a kickstarter.
How do you guys store your gear? I was thinking of getting a mannequin.
>>30127452
i just set it on my safe. i have a big bin filled with camo and shit.
>>30127452
I have a mannequin i got for free but i think it'll be retarded to gear the thing up, i don't wanna feel like a fashion designer kek.
Am I one of the cool kids now?
>>30124200
Wagner is that you?
>>30127888
You're on your way
>>30127888
dude at least try to clean up around the mirror before you take a picture in the bathroom.
>>30127452
I just weleded up some pipe and plate then wrapped that in a pool noodle
>>30127965
No.
>>30127888
With that haircut? Nah. I hope you snagged some of those tampons on the back of the toilet for your kit.
>>30128166
>tampons
Pads*
Also yeah I need a haircut. It's not that long right now though
>>30127888
Not as cool as this guy.
>>30121457
If only they made chest rigs like that again...
>>30127452
In my closet. I have my camo on hangars above it. I really do need to get a safe eventually for all my shit. No room in my current place though.
Has anybody developed a chest rig system that loops into your belt loops? You could tighten it a certain way so it would be solid over your shoulders, but also would allow for a pseudo battle-belt thing.
>>30128543
you are supposed to wear it on your chest not your belly.
>>30128543
You mean like this? Too much of a pain in the ass to deal with. Even if you reverse the belt its still a pain. A belt is meant to be stationary, while your rig is supposed to move somewhat. The belt if attached can also pull down on your shoulders with slight movements over time adding to fatigue.
>>30127452
do it
would be boss in a man cave
What do yall think of the HSGI taco mag pouches that have a pistol mag pouch stacked on a rifle mag pouch? I'm thinking about it for my battle belt. Using them independent (2 rifle and 2 pistol) takes up too much 'circumference' space, and I don't think I'd mind going outward just a little bit.
>>30124317
Thats a nice bushcraft setup, What am I all looking at?
>>30127888
Legit question though.
Should my chest rig be that low? It's fucking covering my pistol.
It's a surplus TAP vest.
>>30129228
I'm considering them when I switch to a PC because I don't really want a battle belt.
Two of them like that and then a regular one, or three like that and use one for a flashlight.
>>30130022
think of it this way.
CHEST rig.
>>30130042
How do I make the thing sit higher then? It just slides the fuck down unless it's I can't fucking move tight.
>>30129228
It's fine. I use a double stack rifle mag pouch and it works fine for .223 magazines. It's a bit chunky for 7.62x39 mags though. Save the lateral space on your belt.
>>30130054
tighten it down then secure the straps with tape.
>>30129992
its a home made roll top backpack. it looks like it's made of waxed canvas
>>30130054
you take out the slack in the shoulders and tape it.
Anyone here do extensive solo bushcraft? Im looking to get into it and was wondering what gear do you pack when you go out? I always just put together my ALICE pack and LBE then rolled.
Alright, I wanna be a gear queer but dont know squat. I have an array of guns and knowledgeable in that department but don't know anything about carriers, rigs, packs, and weather or not I should use a carrier because apparently some ppl don't. Any advice for a newfag? Let us say I have $500 to spend to pop my cherry.
>>30130189
This pic isn't the worst place to start for basic gear.
>>30130189
What is your particular taste?
Favorite rifle and pistol?
Do you want to run heavy and operator or grey man?
>>30130189
If you plan on purchasing armor you should buy a carrier with some kind of attachment system so you can put your pouches on there.
Get the LBT 6094S currently on sale on Ebay and some mag pouches.
>>30130202
It's pretty bad.
>>30130189
Type of rifle? Will you be using a handgun? Armor?
where can i buy boron carbide plates
>>30130207
Well for my taste, I want some protection but not to be a walking tank.
As for my favorite rifle most certainly my AR15 and definitely like my M&P 40 (in b4 .40 S*W is shit cali)
>>30130189
Crye JPC, Tactailor Tripple mag pouch with KYWIs, BFG Trauma pouch, HSGI dumper, LBT bladder pouch.
Thats the best of the best at that price. If pistol mags realllly matter,a BFG double pistol pouch would be great.
>>30130250
If by walking tank you mean get shot 10 times and keep running, that does not exist. Armor is either something you do or do no have.
>>30130250
Well I don't know of no middle man style, If you wish to rock light grab a chest rig with 5-6 mags and battle belt with pistol and mags along with knife, dump pouch, IFAK and radio.
If you wish for protection get a PC with ceramics and MOLLE attachments for mags, IFAK and radio.
>>30130250
Minimalist options like a slick PC + chest rig or
>>30130267
or dedicated rigs like
>>30130229
Is $500 including armor?
>>30118490
So, /k/, I'm new to this whole thing. What company makes the best BDU's? I don't want anything that's gonna wear down on me from crawling around in them.
>>30130280
Did not mean for it to come off that way, what I mean is I do not want to be too heavy but noy under armored if that is possible.
>>30130295
You can get the LBT 6094S and some ceramic armor for slightly below $500. Mag pouches are extra sadly.
>>30130250
>>30130267
Thats assuming you want armor at aditional cost outside of $500. If you dont, replace the JPC and mag pouch with a BFG M4 chest rig. They work amazingly compared to other shit Ive had like the D3. The Trauma pouch is the shit, large enough to fit everything, but its low profile. The HSGI dumper wins because its the easest to deploy and stick mags into.
>>30130313
just buy a kangaroo pouch insert for like 40 bucks.
>>30130042
I love the diversity of their weapons.
>>30130071
>secure the straps with tape.
Use Velcro cable ties. Wally world has two rolls of black/black and black/white for like 3.99 in the hardware section with the zip ties. Perfect for policing excess webbing you don't want to take a hot knife to.
>>30130202
yes it is, that gear is shit and a waste of money.
>>30130080
Might be oilcloth. Shit is so hot in bushcrafting.
>>30130341
>zipties
>>30130350
Yeah that gear is but I always used it more as a guide to what kind of gear is good for basics. Don't have to get those brands of stuff
So /k/, I'm a bit new. What's the best brand for BDU's, or is Mil-spec the way to go?
Looking for something good in A-TACS FG
>>30130357
might be, they are both pretty common. if i was going to make a pack like that i would use a USGI canvas pup tent or tarp for the material and wax it. >>30130397
you aren't going to find Atacs that aren't made by a chinese company. that being said the Truespec and Proper brands are horrible. they aren't great and personally i think the usgi woodland pants we issued are way more comfortable but the chinese brands use ripstop materials and the correct patterns.
ATACS directly contracts with propper i think.
>>30130384
it's just a way better investment to get the marshals lbt 6094 while you can get it cheap on ebay and a kangaroo pouch for three mags and then build on it.
>>30130303
>>30130397
your choices are propper, truspec, or buying surplus if you want anything for a reasonable price.
>>30130483
>>30130503
So, what would you recommend between the two, Propper, or TrueSpec?
>>30130314
sorry it took me a sec to reply, so that is if I don't want the armor at all or just if I don't include the plates in the price?
>>30130289
I have a surplus GI pistol belt is that different than battle belt?
>>30130619
Not MOLLE compatible I have the same thing. I don't really know the best company for a battle belt but get something padded that will be comfortable and MOLLE compatible
>>30130187
what environment?
>>30130619
Very. Not molle and no padding. GI pistol belts are to battle belts what bandoliers are to chest rigs and PCs.
>>30130654
Piney woods of East Texas.
posting in a gear thread. i think when i get a plate carrier, i'll turn the chest rig into a general purpose outdoor rig with a med pouch & radio pouch, and retain the fastmag just in case.
>>30130566
i don't think it really matters. just buy one set of each in your preferred camo it shouldn't be too expensive and pick which one you like more for future purchases. do you even want more then one or two sets of camo?
>>30130718
For now, one set should do fine. I'm not going to lie, their primary purpose is going to be for airshit games. (Milsim looks fun, what can I say.) But I also don't want to cheap out, since if I'm going to invest on something I'd rather just spend the money on something good once, rather than end up buying numerous cheap pairs of something shitty.
>>30130778
i have never bought at set from either and actually used it for anything. all of the bdus i have are the old USGI ones.
>>30130778
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UPe3mKLQMg
maybe this guy can help you. just google it and find some reviews.
>>30130831
>>30130848
Thanks for the help fellas.
>>30130868
it's just me replying man.
>>30130202
>xX_deaglesoft_Xx 's basic airsofter kit
kys my man
random question that doesnt deserve its own thread, what camo would be best for central NJ? (pic related) newb to gear stuff.
>>30130887
Well, thanks for the help. Based shaved head beard man.
>>30130975
come back and let us know how what ever it is you bought works out.
>>30130973
m81 woodland would be fine or just od multicam and coyote is to bright for the dirt color. from what i can tell by looking at pictures of the woods it gets really dark brown during the winter and fall.
>>30130993
>>30130993
Will do. I'll probably come back with some initial feelings on the quality, and then after I take it to a local 5 hour Milsim I'll make sure to talk about the quality when in simulated combat.
>>30130973
multicam tropic would probably be pretty good
>>30131017
you could also get some meme camo like mulicam tropic that matches the greens but its gonna cost you extra and wont match anything when its not spring.
id go with woodland or some variant of a woodland pattern like dpm or mabye even a gorka suit in a neutral brown/green
>>30131052
include marpat in the woodland variants
>>30131052
would flecktarn or kryptek be good variants?
>>30131188
are there trees with leaves that turn in that area? flecktarn kinda only makes sense if there are orange leaves in the area. kryptek is an over priced meme
>>30130973
Multicam tropic
>>30131220
this is true, forgot about the orange/red on fleck. itd only be useful 3-4 months out of the year really. what about ATACS-FG?
>>30131244
is it hard to find gear in this color? havent really seen much in any multicam other than the standard multicam.
>>30131262
Perroz designs can make a carrier in it, Mayflower made a chest rig in it, same with haley strategic
honestly having every piece of gear matching isnt that important
>>30126138
Tryna act my protege or something? Seriously though dude, you humble me
>>30125763
I'd get some some, it both darkens your skin and bleaches your hair (mine at least)
MFT minimalist militia when?
>>30130701
>dat periscope
I really like everything, but have no idea how it all comes together...
>>30127271
won't be able to think straight until I've got one of these
>>30131371
>I'd get some some
sun is what i think you mean.
>MFT minimalist militia when?
now
i wish i could sbr my rifle like this.
>>30131371
thanks. yeah im still new to the gearfaggotry game, so im still learning as i go. i plan to get the plate carrier in coyote or ranger green.
speaking of which, do the sizes listed on gear manufacturers websites for plate carriers typically refer to the actual fit size, or what size plates they accept?
Hey Gear Queer,
I got a question for you. I have a SADF M83 chest rig for my AK74 but I am building an AR and realized that the M83 may not be ideal for the AR (mag pouches are too deep). So I was looking for a new system.
I have no illusions of being engaged in actual combat and there for do not see the point in a plate carrier. Chest rigs are nice but from my experience with the M83 I think I would prefer to have my mags on my belt. I also am starting to do some USPSA and 2 Gun Action shoots.
So TL:DR can I get some gun belt or waist Load bearing systems. I was thinking of running (lol buzzword) 2 AR mags and 1 or 2 pistol mags, water, maybe a roll up dump pouch, a blowout kit and maybe comms. Kay Thanks bye.
(pic is not me)
>>30131445
its plate size. http://www.ebay.com/itm/401116412890
buy this while they are still available
>>30131508
sdaf works just fine for m83 chest rigs. you can even carry 9 mags in it.
What sort of set-up would be suitable for an SPR? I'm thinking of running a mix of 3-4 30s and a few 20s.
I also finally bought my first handgun so I'd need something that could support that off my right side.
>>30131220
Kryptek is cheaper then basic bitch woodland right now
>>30132353
Because no one wants it
>>30132434
>A fool and his money will soon be parted
Pay twice as much for multi meme
>>30132483
i wouldn't pay for multimeme anyway. you don't need to justify your shit purchases to us. If you want to by kryptek then do it. but everyone is going to make fun of you.
>>30132509
nice airsoft gun fgt
>>30132509
Super fag/10
>>30132543
>Caring what autists think
You seem to think this board has taste
First it's too expensive
Then it's not autist approved
Keep shifting those goal posts fag
>>30132618
no both of those things are wrong with it. the goal post you are trying to reach has has always been right behind you. you make the choice to turn around and buy some stupid shitty looking meme camo that costs too much for what it is.
>>30132635
Wooooosh
>>30132697
i threw up in my mouth
>>30121420
what pc is that?
>>30121089
>>30132822
I think that's the First Spear/SKD exclusive STT?
>>30132697
wow what a fag
>>30133145
Or a more premium line First Spear.
They're the ones behind those connector things.
>>30130042
>>30130071
>>30130098
Anyone got a picture reference for this?
>>30133165
i depends on what kind of chest rig it is.
but this is really straight forward. you adjust the straps so that the chest rig is up on your rib cage and then you tape up the slack straps.
>>30133184
Ah. Alright that's not too difficult then.
What am I looking to pay for a decent plate carrier?
I just wanna keep it fairly simple like pic related. Except with G3 mags.
Also who makes good ceramic plates?
>>30133228
>What am I looking to pay for a decent plate carrier?
$200
by this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/401116412890
>Also who makes good ceramic plates?
http://highcomsecurity.com/collections/plates/products/guardian-4sas-7?variant=361416603
>>30131508
Put socks in the bottom. Use magpuls
>>30133145
His is a first Spear siege R. Mine is the STT
>>30133228
$200. I like the tag stuff I wish I bought one. So tag, warrior systems, cyre jpc, Mayflower apc
>>30133228
Mayflower apc with 7.62 (hk417) kangaroo insert. Add some tacos to the front to hold 3 more.
>>30133228
Quality carriers to check out.
London Bridge Trading 6094 ~ $398
Mayflower APC ~ $220
Crye Precision JPC ~ $249
Tyr BPC ~ $259
First Spear Strandhögg ~ $419
Shellback Banshee ~ $180
LBX Tactical Quick Draw ~ $169
TAG Vanguard ~ $209
Eagle Industries PC ~ $269
Paraclete HPC ~ $179
Protech TAC PR ~ $265
HSGI MPC ~ $369
Tactical Tailor Fight Light ~ $334
AWS Inc. (LBT 6094 clone) ~ $149
5.11 Tac Tec ~ $186
Velocity Systems Scarab ~ $295
PIG PC ~ $329
MARZ PC ~ $299
My gear combines OD and olive drab, is this acceptable? (scandinavian forrest)
>>30133695
The 5.11 tac tec has a weird pad that makes the back plate sit low as fuck
>>30133731
post pics of your gear
>>30133934
I'm too ashamed to do it. I have lots of cheap stuff because I'm a student on a budget; I don't want to be marked as some airshitter.
>>30118558
Do you know where you are?
>>30133956
If we can't see it, we can't improve it. Even if you don't want to buy no shit, we can at least shit talk your pouch placement
>>30133731
I might be retarded here but isn't OD olive drab? Is this the case or am I just being stupid?
found a gun at my grandparents house, can anybody tell me anythign about it?
>>30134723
>>30134683
Don't think so. When I look at my gear, olive looks slightly more bright than OD. Also, whenever I order stuff they mark them OD or Olive Drab (sometimes just olive). I don't know, maybe they're the same, it could just be the manufacturs doing their ways, and the two words are the same but different in context. There's other hobbies, suck as sewing, were it's olive drab, and there's no OD anywhere.
Maybe someone else could clarify this.
Oh and btw, I'll send pics soon
>>30134795
Ideally OD is short for Olive Drab and all OD gear matches all other OD gear of the same material. In reality different manufacturers have a different shade/tint of OD because there is no one OD, there are many colors that are OD. So you can get OD from one manufacturer that doesn't match the OD from a different manufacturer.
You should also note that for some inane reason they may call it Olive or army green, etc. And it is in fact OD. They may also make a color that is not OD and call it the same.
Pain in the motherfucking ass if you like OD gear because you have to stick with one company and hope their OD is standard or you can roll the dice that company A and company B match.
Same problem with RG(ranger green). You don't know how green or grey it will be until you see it.
Just redid my belt and made it a bit neater. Neat kit is happy kit.
>>30135065
That's what thought. Just got confused when the other anon mentioned OD and olive drab. I was sitting there thinking, doesn't OD stand for olive drab?
>>30135148
Whole gear family after a cleaning and reset.
>>30135356
Even camo will be different depending on who made it. Some multicam stuff is more green than normal or the colors are more saturated or less saturated. Even UCP stuff I've been issued varies. Some of it comes with a pinkish tinge out of the box.
When it comes to solid colors, variation is going to happen. The good news is that if you actually use the stuff outside it all fades a bit and picks up local grime stains to become more uniform.
>>30135065
Same problem with Tan or Coyote brown.
>>30135684
Name of that upper pls
>Try to make a helpful response >>30129892
>those replys
Goddamn, didn't know people were that sensitive about it.
>>30134723
>>30134731
Probably a better question for a shotgun or qtddtot thread.
>>30136162
Just an M&P upper with a low profile gasblock, replacement bolt, and a Troy free float rail. On top are Troy folding irons, TA31 ACOG, and a flashlight which I really don't know the name of.
(I bought all the Troy stuff way before the Lon Horichi stuff. I might buy differently today; I don't know if that kind of thing affects your purchasing choices.)
>>30135684
Why the tape on the magazine?
i have a LBT6094, and i was wondering what i should be putting on the back?
hydration? or a HS Flat Pack?
>>30136804
Double trouble.
>>30136861
Nothing you ding bat
It fucks up with your pack
>>30131559
you seem like you're projecting a lot and want to show off, get attention, etc. I dislike this quality in people. Not saying it's true, just seems like it.
Is that a moto x pure btw? How do you like it?
>>30118640
I like your style
I wonder how Comtac's work with ACH.
I'm worried about headband. Could it cause problems and pinch into my head?
Can I avoid it by mounting it to ARC rails like on Ops-Core?
Can I avoid it by swapping out to OCC-Dial? By putting them below the straps as close to the shell as possible?
>>30118490
I'm new to this gear queer shit, so let me ask, are crye g3 pants worth the money?
I'm not a poorfag, but I'm also not one who enjoys spending $300 on a pair of pants when there might be a better alternative out there.
Someone post all them good battle belts please
>>30139177
Hsgi
Tyr
Vtac
5/11
First spear
Tac tailor
Eagle industries
All I can think of
>>30139653
Nigga, Crye precision
>>30139683
Crye is meme gear
that's below condor
>>30139827
not like their use is widespread or anything.
>>30139915
So were rage comics, but it didn't make them any less cancerous.
>>30139943
all memes are cancerous.
r8 my dogger vest
>>30140084
Needs more dog.
>>30140117
ok brb
>>30138583
They are some other options, I have Emerson g3 style pants and they work well,but the quality isn't top notch. But you also have semapo gear which is the closest replica that's priced decently
>>30140134
Semapo's sizing is ayy lmao and totally inconsistent, though. And I've heard that the build quality is pretty questionable unless you only wear them once a week.
>>30139973
>A joke You've already heard for the 99th time.
>not cancerous
>>30138583
they're really tough pants I wore a black pair for work on the railway and they held up really well.
arcteryx also makes really tough pants though, no stretch panels on them though so they breath a little worse
>>30140117
ready to opr8
>>30140341
Noice!
>>30140351
thx
Here is my gear fellow fags.
>>30135684
w2c that pack?
>>30118490
can anyone point me in the right dirrection for a gr.7 fleck parka with liner?
>>30140915
nevermind kommandostore has gr.6
>>30140621
no tactical coconut?
>>30140964
such weeb gear.
do you got the type 89 flash hider?
>>30140964
wat plate carrier is dat
>>30140995
of course.
>>30141060
whatever came with ar500 2 years go.. it's shit
>>30136050
Tan is understandable.
Coyote is a patented color of which there is an established value. Only material and lazyness should create variability. It isn't like OD where there are many different established variations of OD. Coyote brown is only #81613E.
At least getting shit dirty makes everything pretty.
>>30140341
Who make vest?
Dog is best dog.
What 3 day assault packs would you guys recommend for someone just starting to build their collection?
>>30135684
>>30140893
could someone at least id it or name something similar?
>>30140893
It's an old Blackhawk Hydrastorm pack. It's a model with ALICE loops on it, so I'm not even sure if they make them exactly like that anymore. eBay or a good surplus store is the place to go.
>>30118490
>>30121457
shirt how
>>30142174
jelly
>>30141495
http://lbtinc.com/standard-three-day-assault-pack-7
What the fuck is the point of commercial shit like pic related?
It's literally ALICE webbing.
>>30142392
Speaking of LBT, are the Flyye copies good?
Autists have somehow managed to push the price of used LBT gear above the new price listed on the real website.
>>30142392
Modern materials and new production rather than old stuff that might be worn out / smell off?
>>30142392
Because people like things that fit and feel better. And I can't tell for 100%, but I'm pretty sure that harness has MOLLE. And it has clips instead of a buckle. And various modular, modern style pouches. And different suspension than ALICE.
>>30142440
It doesn't. It's literally pouches that cannot be moved around which is a disadvantage compared to ALICE.
>>30142422
Same nylon and shit as issued gear. They even use that is a point of pride.
I mean I can understand if it's somehow different but some of it is literally the same or worse and it still sells.
>>30142392
What is this setup called?
>>30142600
LBT-1195J
Hey guys, I'm looking for a small to medium size, discreet, and non-attention grabbing backpack. It'll be in my car to hold just the basics--2 IFAKs (Me and if someone else needs help), some water, food, and a few spare mags. It's strictly for use until I can get to my main gear at home, so basically a greyman load. If it fits a 15" laptop, that's a huge plus (Just for size reference, not to actually hold a laptop). Something that has good straps is necessary, as I'll likely be on the move. Budget is <$150 but I'll splurge if it's a good piece.
Does anyone have any recommendations? So far I've crossed the 5.11 covert pack off (Personally, I think the placement of the zippers won't allow me quick access to gear inside, but I'll see if there's a local example I could try) http://www.511tactical.com/covrt-boxpack.html
as well as the Vertx EDC http://vertx.com/edc-ready-pack (though I will reconsider it).