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>ctrl+f
>battle rifle thread
>brg
>battle rifle general
>zero results

What gives?

Battle rifle thread cunts. Post battle rifles. Talk about battle rifles. Show how enlightened you are with your superior 7.62 NATO guns.
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thinken about getting a M1A tbqhwyf
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>>30114411
dat carry handle triggers me
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mine
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>>30114453
I thought you meant on the FAL for a second
>and then I saw it

Why not get a fucking .308 one, god damn.
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>>30114438
do it senpai
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Anyone know where to get alpine green furniture for a PTR? I can find the stock but no forearms or pistol grips
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Possibly gonna be trading my AR for a CETME with a paddle mag release and trigger job alongslide several mags and 200+ rounds of brass cased .308 (mostly perfecta and ZQI I believe)

Depending on how the trade goes I may or may not keep my Aimpoint PRO (there may be another gun thrown in for that)
If I do I'm considering mounting it on the CETME.

Is the MFI low profile claw mount any good?
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>>30114581
Also should I keep the wood furniture or go tacticool and get the para stock and a new modular handguard.
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>>30114581
>I may or may not keep my Aimpoint PRO (there may be another gun thrown in for that)
There had better be, otherwise you're definitely getting the shit end of the stick.

>>30114593
Keep the wood; tacticool looks retarded on a CETME.
>tfw no "Modelo E" furniture to put on my PTR
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>>30114930
The PRO isn't part of the deal but the person may be interested in trading another firearm for it if they don't sell it
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I impulse bought an R1A1 sporter a few years back, receiver markings are MADE BY IMBEL, ITAJUBA BRAZIL. IMPORTED BY CAI ST. ALB VT. From what i've dug up it looks like a frankenfal from century, metric pattern.

Anyone have any experience with these imports? I have issues with doublefeeding, and i think ive narrowed it down to an issue with the feed ramp, called a "monobrow feed ramp", where it is actually two feed ramps with a peak in the middle. Any advice on what to do, what to look for, if i can fix this myself, etc. would be greatly appreciated. I can post more pics as well if anyone has some insight for me.
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Been thinking about getting a parts kit for a Rhodesian FAL for a while, but I've also wanted a CETME. I currently have no battle rifles atm
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>want FAL
>want carry handle
>preferably want wood but polymer is fine too

What get? All I can really find are DSA rifles.
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>>30114993
Look for local listings and dig around at gun shows. It's surprisingly effective.
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>>30115059
>local listings
Literally
>two adds for overpriced .22lr
>one add for assorted 9mm at retail prices
>one spikes AR that's been up for months
>a couple remington 770's
>one airshit XD
>an XDm
>two separate listings for XD and XDm holsters

>gunshow
same as above nothing cool ever shows up

Small towns are pure suffering sometimes.

The only cool thing I've seen at either was a Kel Tec RFB
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>>30115158
Damn that sucks. I can understand that that route isn't always great, esp. if you aren't in a bigger city. It's damn near foolproof in San Antonio.
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that EBR life
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http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/05/30/kalasnikov-concern-introduces-new-7-62x51-nato-sk-16-precision-rifle/
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>>30115059
What kind of fal do you have?
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works as a marshmallow stick
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>>30115749
It's an Imbel parts kit assembled on a new imbel receiver and slathered in an unhealthy amount of automotive paint.
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>>30115668
The fuck are you doing with your scope rings?
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>>30114503

I'm not sure if alpine green is the same as tropical green, but that furniture is available at Robert RTG. The only other place I normally buy stuff from is from HK Parts.
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I haven't shot my FAL since like November
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I want to get a SCAR-H soon, money isnt an issue, are there any issues with it?

>>30115782
I recognize that from somewhere
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>want FAL
>don't know about manufacturers/things to look for
>held one in a gunshop yesterday, felt ready to Don a pair of short shorts and remove kaffir
Wat do
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>>30115920
Do you recognize the rifle, or the backseat of my truck?
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>>30115987
The rifle. weekendgunnit?
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>>30116003
Never posted it there, someone must've re-uploaded something I've put on the 4chans. Got a link for me? I'm curious what the Internet thinks of my charming sock paintjob.
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>>30116082
https://www.reddit.com/r/weekendgunnit/comments/4lar5x/made_another_gun_racist/
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>>30115987
>chick lean
>not even using the sling, so no excuses for "olympic shooting stance"
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>>30116124
youre a dumbass thats mine
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>>30116135
I am? how?
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>>30114411
Got about 100 rounds through it now. It's picky; wants good and/or hot .308. Runs well with .308 Rem UMC, .308 Federal hunting loads, and .308 TulAmmo. Doesn't like Lake City 7.62 NATO or Perfecta .308. 5 round steel mag from Midway's house brand (AR-Stoner) sucked, wouldn't feed with anything. 10 round Pmags worked as stated above. 25 round pmag only liked TulAmmo, but ran like a swiss watch with it.

Something ironic about a cheap rifle build (PSA/Anderson/Asstd) only liking Tula.
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>>30116148
Really?
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>>30116124 see >>30116135

>>30116127
Sorry, that was the first time I had ever shot it very fast. Most ranges around here don't allow more than 1 shot every 2 seconds, so I don't get a lot of time to practice eating sustained 308 recoil.
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>>30115795
Don't mind him, he's literally retarded.

https://youtu.be/aIvcYiZL2Cs
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>>30114453
Kek, good catch. When I was busy poorfagging this thing up, I thought about doing that, just since I had it around. But NY eyes are trash, so irons are a bad idea.
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>>30115795
>>30116208
isnt my rifle fagpai lol
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>>30114411
Tell me if this is a bad idea.
I only have one bolt action hunting rifle.
>Tikka T3 lite in 30-06.
It's had a firing pin issue but I got that fixed, but has me worried it might happen again when I go hunting, so I've been thinking about a backup rifle, I want a M1A anyway so why not make this my backup rifle when hunting? I was going to get a 243 or a 270 but I already want an M1A so..
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>>30116249
If you truly want it it's never a bad idea.
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>>30114411
What kind of accuracy would you expect out of each of those platforms with the M193 equivalent of .308?

I don't know much about the chambering so any info would be nice.

So basically,

FAL

PTR(G3)

M1A

AR10

And the average acceptable MOA with basic ball ammo at 100 yards?
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>>30116208
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>>30116255
With M80 ball? 2-4MOA for all but the .308AR; which should be able to stay <2 if it's built correctly, though IIRC the original AR10s were about as accurate as the rest. There's so much variation when it comes to the .308AR that it's hard to give you a single statistic.
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>>30116469
4 MOA in an AR is considered horrid, at least on 3 shot groups.


If I pick up a battle rifle for under 1200 should I just accept that it won't be a tack driver?
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>>30116562
>on 3 shot groups.
Dude, no. 5 shots minimum; 10 shots better, 20 shots best. 3 is for the fudd trying to zero his durr rifles.
>should I just accept that it won't be a tack driver?
Well yeah; it's a battle rifle, not a sniper's rifle.
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>>30116562
You could poorfag up an AR10, hand polish the trigger, and get a good barrel for $1200.
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>>30116646
>he doesn't shoot one shot sub MOA groups

Step up senpai. You're just wasting ammo.
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Hey sakuya, still boyhurt about getting banned, you stupid faggot?
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>>30114411
Would a Yugo M76 be considered a battle rifle?
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>>30116895
>Would a Yugo M76 be considered a battle rifle?
Not as originally manufactured.
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>>30116862
Oh he mad.
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>>30116909
this, and even then no because it was never a service rifle in that form
>>30116895
also, that bullet button
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>>30116909

i came
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>>30116646
yeah people thinking just because its 308 its a DMR

>>30116862
actually i went afk to do this picture related took some filing and grinding because lol hk

still waiting on that short lever but i shimmed it with a copper washer for the mean time

>>30116895
DMR
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>>30118103
What an ugly rifle
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>>30118137
i know im gonna have to sand and stain that front end but you cant help the roller delayed blowback problem
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>>30118103
>>30118161
>CETME handguard
>HK stock

Fucking disgusting.
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>>30118161
It might be possible.
Cerakote the metal
Maybe a laminate if you wanted wood

>>30118170
Its a G3 clone, it cant be helped that it looks that bad
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Favorite FAL-friendly mag pouches?
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>>30118231
tacos
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>>30118231
plate carriers r for fags

tactical tailor
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Finished my G3K, minus the steel trigger housing.

But bipod.
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>>30118429
SBR'd K3P?
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>>30114930
I read somewhere the reason why they phased out the Modelo E furniture so quickly is that it would melt

But damn, that doesn't stop me from wanting that furniture really badly.
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>>30118429
I didnt think a G3 could look worse than it does at a stock length barrel.
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>>30118478

K3P
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>>30118231
Fereday & sons chestrig, you can get them for about 35 bucks shipped to the US on Varusteleka
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Why is there no Good shotgun upper for AR10s?

If they could release a 12ga semi auto upper for AR10. That came in under the price of a new Moss500. It would be a really popular item.
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>>30118913
Tried and failed.
The market didnt want them.
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>>30118532
Cool.
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>>30118922
Because it ran on proprietary ammunition and not real 12ga shells
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How insane would it be to mount a scope on a Garand to deer hunt? Would i have to permanently remove anything off the gun?
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>>30119343
you'd have to mount the scope at an angle or forward of the action to avoid the clip PINGing into it
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>>30118939

I still need to load up on .308, but I can't wait to shoot it.
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I just installed the pistol grip bipod on my tavor. I ordered my Timney trigger. I am looking for a decent red dot for around 300-500, any ideas?

Also I like my Tavor.
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>>30119408
>Tavor
Mepro Tru-Dot.
>5.56
Also get out.
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>>30119430

Thank you and ok :(

I should have bought the SCAR I knew it
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>>30115158
I feel you mate. Up here in AK the whole used market is like that, not just out in small towns.
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>>30119343
Not insane
Mounts made for it
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>>30120255
So buy new
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Morning, big rifle guys.
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>>30120574
Thats kind of a sweet setup
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>>30123214
morning
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>>30123535

wood
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>>30123535
Your such handsome
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>>30116082
>SM "Sportpatronen" with nickel coated bal (9,6g)
>CIP print on the cartridge
>Brazilian FAL

...purely theoretically, are you also from central europe?

By the way, nice lizard :3
I enclose my LSR
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LUMBERJACK MAN, WHERE ARE YOU? WE MATCH NOW!

>>30124631
Sorry Czechman, but I am from Texas. Great-great grandparents were Czech, though.

As for the ammo, it's the exact stuff you described, but I bought it online from a store in Oklahoma.
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>>30116646
Dat chub n' tuck tho
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>>30124801
Alas...But even it is interesting to find someone with roots (although long) from the same country. Greetings to Texas!

This ammo is originally german authorized for civilian use. Likewise, there is available austrian ex-military for a good price. Apparently they really have full ass of it, when they export overseas.
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do you guys take your raifus out adventuring?
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>>30125171
I mean, I rarely ever go anywhere without tossing the FAL in the back, but camping in Texas on public land with a rifle is of dubious legality iirc.
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>>30114960

I bought one recently and had issues with it feeding until i noticed that the pin the holds the gas tube in place was missing after that it has been perfect
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>>30125310
Many century made FALs have issues.
These issues are well documented, and generally easy to fix once identified. But the spectre still lingers on them (rightfully) that the resale value is less.
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seriously short axel safety selector is tighter than a 12 year old

whats the best way to losen it up

>>30125341
its just best to avoid anything century unless you get it dirt cheap used and like to solve problems
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>>30116135
Dude nice
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>>30125428
NVM i hit with a hammer and it works now
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>>30125498
Nothing JB weld won't fix
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>>30114991
How to get parts kit
>>30124801
>I'm from Texas
Dallas here, I will lavishly suck your cock to buy that rifle.
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>>30125274
>camping on public land with a gun is illegal
>in Texas

Are you sure you live in Texas?
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>>30125782
Well, in state parks you aren't allowed to have anything other than a concealed handgun. That's kinda what I meant. Texas is a great state, but the lack of BLM land really, REALLY sucks. Everything is either privately owned or a Federal/State park.
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>>30126002
I dont know about "great state"
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>>30118478
Would you happen to know if the furniture from a HK91 and a PTR91 are interchangeable?
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>>30126016
Eh, whatever. It grows on you after living here for so long. Like a tumor.

>>30126029
PTRs are made on HK machinery with very few changes from original spec, and G3 furniture fits. Stands to reason that HK91 furniture would to.

Sorry for no BR pic, will be home shortly.
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>>30126002
>but the lack of BLM land really, REALLY sucks
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>>30125498
>average ptr.webm
>receiver markings say Federal Arms

You're an idiot.
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>>30126215
I lived there for five years.
Asides from some friends, and a couple restaurants, there isnt much I miss about the state.
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>>30126481
You can make out what the rollmark says?
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>>30125650
>>30126215
ANSWER ME DAMN YOU
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>>30126842
Pretty inpatient to find out if anon will let you suck his cock.
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>>30115668
>tripfagging outside of /arg/
why
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>>30127013
You must be new here
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>>30126842
I might consider it if you were the adorable hasguns Asian girl that I still cling to the austere hope of finding one day, but in all probability you're not, so I'll have to pass.
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After I finish my RPK, should I get an FAL or PTR?
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>>30127150
How did you build yours
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>>30115668
Why did you destroy that rifle?
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>>30127259
Didnt. Some dirtbag in Houston did.
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>>30127327
Fuck.
Was it a nigger?
I want my own Rhodie so bad now.

I dropped my last biggen on the SCAR
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shot it for the first time, it worked, it was terrible

>>30127260
which one?

>>30127351
build it then paint it
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>>30127351
Get a kit or buy something used.
Could buy new if you pine for a DSA model
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>>30127501
>>30127508
Where get kit
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>>30127606
fal files

http://www.falfiles.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=11
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>>30126029
Yeah, PTR uses mostly milsurp furniture anyway.

>>30125428
http://www.hkpro.com/forum/hk-clone-talk/236380-warning-not-all-g3-hk91-metal-lower-safety-levers-same-some-bind-up.html

>>30126638
The webm is a of federal arms. Those things were worse than C308s.
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>>30127501
why would you buy a shitty G3?
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>>30128007
i like wood
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>>30128007
Considering how much you like to suck his dick you should know why. I think he has the "Gotta have em all" mentality, which must be why he's such a fervent collector of (you)'s
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>>30128733
it sucks being able to afford stuff
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>>30129117
>Not tan
Poor fag
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>>30129246
i hate fde and ranger green
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What are some interesting rifles around $1200-$1300?
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>>30129349
FAL, SVT, M1A
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>>30129405
Slavshit is not interesting
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Mine but I want all battle rifles :(
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>>30131019
i think all BRs are interesting to a degree
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>>30129117
>shittiest grip ever on a $3000 rifle
There's something wrong with you
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>buy my ptr in nov
>less than 50 rounds through it

being on overtime sucks
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>>30131128
when people shoot my scar they get to enjoy an afg2 and a 15$ airsoft red dot

>>30131232
we get it youre poor
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>>30131282
Do you also give them blanks?
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>>30131128
ak grip is objectively worse
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>>30131282
>>30131128
I was talking about the basic pistol grip
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>>30131375
You're objectively wrong
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.308 sucks ass, even 5.45 outperforms it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=547BKysByqM&spfreload=10
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>>30131409
malnourished peasant upbringing?
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>>30131493
Cyka
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>>30116895
Want it, but so expensive :(
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Posting this here because I feel like you guys know things
I'm in the market for a new rifle. I am saving up for a Zastava M76. Problem is, I'm a broke college student, and my budget is smallish, so I need suggestions.
I need something that can be:
Made commiefornia legal
Good for long range-ish shooting (DMR range, at least 1MOA-ish on an average day with good ammo, comes with or can be equipped with a scope)
And I'd love a rifle that is:
C&R or old
Wood and Metal
Has history in a conflict
Cheap-ish round (my other gat is 8mm Mauser, so I'm willing to go up to that price).
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>>30114960
You have one of the best receivers you could buy. People part those rifles out and sell an imbel rec. Alone for 500$ +
I doubt you have the monobrow because its imbel. Hesse is the receiver known for the monobrow. Your shit is most likely a lug or mag issue. If I were you I'd back the fuck off that nice receiver put down the dremel and have a knowledgable smith look at it. Might be a $20 part needs replacing you know. Hold off on potentially ruining a good investment.
Kudos for doing your research man, really.
P.s. if your mags are dsa they're garbage.
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>>30118429
That one of those robert rtg bipods? Yours stiff as shit by any chance?
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>>30127242
I would opt for a fal simply because ptrs are as widespread as glocks, you can get one whenever.
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>>30132384
>broke college student
>wants 1 moa
>picks a milsurp ak variant in 8mm mauser
good luck with that.

there are no c&r rifles that shoot cartridges cheaper than 8mm mauser except the mosin and svt. the closest youre going to get is a finn mosin if you dont mind a bolt action or an FN 49 which isnt 1 moa. otherwise either get a new production rifle or pony up the $.75-$2 per round for a different milsurp cartridge.
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>>30115668
how much did you pay for your mall ninja m14
please respond
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>>30114411
what's the rifle on the bottom there OP?
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>>30114411
>Hold a plastic PTR pistol grip for the first time
>Feels too thin and just awkward as fuck to hold in general
Are my hands retarded or something?
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>>30133162
>pistol grip
Lower reciever*
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>>30133162
No. The grip is not that great.

Personally, I get along with it because I'm not a prissy faggot about such things, but I can understand why some people would be.
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>>30133162
HK isn't k own for its ergonomics
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>>30114503
Home depot
Paint department
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>>30133842
You should own guns before making posts about them.
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>>30135686
See
>>30133195
>>30133162
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>>30135736
The plastic lower is ambidextrous and made of a lightweight hollow plastic. It's not that great, but swapping to a steel lower is way more comfortable.

>>>>/out/
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i want to make a choice on what to buy, a L1A1, AR platform gun, or a FN FAL?
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>>30135842
FAL or AR. L1's are a nigger and a half for parts.
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>>30135842
>FN FAL
If you're cool.
>AR platform gun
If you're a range queen.
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>>30135910
>>30135874
i don't have that much money, and from gunbroker.com they seem stupid expensive. are they rare? are they worth 1k+? can they do anything from hunting to home defense? i've used the .308 in hunting rifles and it brings down deer like no other. i know that the FN FAL has .308 rounds, but are they all .308?

the only reason i want one is because they were apparently very effective in the rhodesian bush war and it'd be neat to own a piece of history like that.
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>>30114411
Would it work /brg/?
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>>30135946
>i know that the FN FAL has .308 rounds, but are they all .308?
All the "battle rifles" are .308/7.62x51 NATO.
>AR-10
>M14/M1A
>FAL
>PTR
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>>30135994
the stock would have to be extended to fold
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>>30136040
oh, ok. but how much do FALS run you?
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>>30136040
Garand is 30-06
And svt 38/40 is 7.62x54r
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>>30136149
Cheapest dsa fal is 1000, go to their website and see what you like
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>>30136040
Don't forget BM-59
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>>30135994
Like a ptr owner is going to pay that much.
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>>30135910
use diet so you dont attract bugs

>>30135946
762x51 and .308 can be used interchangeably in most battle rifles

>>30137278
unless shilldawg gets in with the gibs me dats
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How good is the M1A in relation to the more modern battle rifles?
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>>30138756
I mean, they can be pretty accurate but to get them to that point you have to be pretty damn fickle with them.

I'd say buy it if you intend to spend a lot of time at the range.
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>>30138756
its the best wood looking one and has the cool story and history factor with old guys who fought in early nam. its also bretty good if you live in a ban state since it cuts down on scary features really well
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>>30138938
My dad was thinking about getting a mini 14, should he get an M1A instead? I obviously want one and since I'm a poor college kid I can't get one. So I figured it would be nice if we shared it, but I don't want him to get it if the mini is objectively better.
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>>30138756
I like the self adjusting gas system better than the FAL's manual system or G3's roller delayed blowback.
I like the semi pistol stock more than full pistol grips.
the iron sights are GOAT
it's also stylish as all fuck

downsides are it's not the easiest gun to scope or accurize, and it's expensive.
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>>30139091
I always lusted after the M1A in college but it was out of my price range. I toyed with the idea of getting a Garand, and bought a Mini 14 soon after graduating. a year or so later I happened into some money and bought an M1A. I like it much better, and regret not just saving up for one from the start.
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>>30132973

Yeah, but I've been playing with it and it loosened up.
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>>30128710

>cetme wood

Goddamn you're a fucking faggot.
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>>30139434
yo its an hk clone
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>>30139434
It's been well established that the tripfag is gay as the day is long.

He'd jump start your brown star with aplomb.

So that he has cetme handguards on a g3 clone isn't surprising anyone. He wears frilly skirts. You really need to step up your game against him. All your doing is feeding him.
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>>30139234
It's not tooooo expensive from what I've seen tbqhwyf. Seems to be the price of a decent FAL.
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>>30139595
well it was more than I had to spend fresh out of college.
again if I could do it over again I'd just save up for it and skip the Mini.
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>>30139631
it really is the just shittier poodle shooter version of the m1a
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Probably been asked alot but is the sa58 voyager a good fal to start with just to have as a woods gun and truck gun
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>>30140450
yes change the rear sight though
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>>30114991
Rhodie parts kits are hard to find now. I wish Mugabe would stop being a cockhead and start selling surplus kits
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Too much of a cheap ass to buy an actual cheek riser. So I made my own.
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>>30140495
Can steel cased ammo be used or no?
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We ChiCom now.
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I did good right? $600 OTD, 6.5 swede
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>>30141920
Yes, very good.

Welcome to the exclusive 6.5x55 auto loader club.
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>>30139787
more like it's just an M1 Carbine in .223
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>>30141938
I'm guessing I gotta hand load for this thing too right? I've heard I could get away with using PPU and oiling the case for extraction
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>>30142054
Usually they only work with surplus ammo.

Mine DOES seem to cycle with current loads if you spray the cases with One Shot sizing lube before you shoot them for some reason.
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>>30140770
I've heard that FALs will have issues with steel case sometimes.
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>>30142152

Some do. There's some horror story floating around about a dude who was using Wolf ammo when his upper receiver went and decided that it wanted to cease to exist as a cohesive unit, and DSA loves to slap that warning about steel ammo on all their SA58s.

I feed my Imbel a steady diet of Turkshit, German Surplus, and Monarch, and it has yet to decide that it sexually identifies as a Glock.

Now this is pure uneducated conjecture, but I'd imagine that steel is frowned upon because of poor QC, and improperly sized cases, hot loads, and austere forms of Slavic metallurical witchcraft are what end up destroying people's raifus.
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>>30142396
*metallurgical
Fuck me sideways, phone keyboard. Fuck me sideways.
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>>30142103
Are there any sources for surplus ammo? Only ever saw it once on armlist for an ungodly price
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>>30118478
What is that thing on the top?

Also nice pie.
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>>30142914
Pretty sure it an old Weaver Qwik-Point red dot.
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>>30142914
acog
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So why should I get a battle rifle instead of a rifle with an intermediate cartridge?
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>>30144346
it can do more than wound?
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>>30144346
You want actually good terminal ballistics at range.
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>>30144346
Just get a PDW cartridge if you want more rounds with less weight.
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>>30144346
the whole point of an intermediate cartridge is having controllable full auto fire but longer range than earlier submachine guns. for a dirty civvie with semi auto only the better power and ballistics of a full size offer more benefit.
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>>30144377
Like, I may be retarded, but isn't one of the main reasons of full auto to just suppress the enemy? In that case what does it matter if the M14 is hard to handle on full auto? I mean obviously you want to hit what you're shooting at but idk.
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>>30144410
Rounds hitting in and around where the guy your shooting at will keep his head down. Rounds going up into the sky will not.
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Thinking about getting a battle rifle that isn't in 8mm. How are the C308s? First option because of price, could save up more and get a FAL or something if I really wanted to though, just would take longer and I already have 5 surplus G3 mags.
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>>30144495
>5 surplus G3 mags
that $15 "investment", isnt really

Century anything is going to likely have issues. If you want a cheap semi auto .308, try a PSA PA-10 (when they are in stock).
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>>30144515

Oh yeah I know the mags aren't that big of a deal, I was just thinking since I already have them maybe look for something they'll work in. I got them for $1 a pop at a local antique store.

I've been considering building my own AR-10 since I just finished my AR-15 build from PSA but I'm not sure yet.
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>>30144523
Wasn't CMMG going to make AR10 lowers that take G3 mags and work in any DPMS-pattern rifle? You could get an LR308 upper or some shit and then slap it on one of those lowers if you're all about the cheapo mag life.
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>>30144912
these things lol
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Alright guys, I need a high quality battle rifle that is reliable and that I can bet my life on. I will be using this gun for WROL and shtf so I need a gun that I can take to hell and back and not worry about it letting me down. So far I've narrowed my choices down to the venerable PSA ar10 and the c308. Please give me your guys experience with these fine weapons. Also I'll be open carrying it daily as I walk to my job everyday (Bi lo I'm an experienced bagger) and may need to defend myself during my travels so comfort and weight are important. Anyway nothing under .308 please. I wouldn't trust my life on anything less
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>>30144912
A couple companies have.
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>>30145181
Topkek

Surely though. You should get a mauser in .45-70 for your teotwawki fantasy
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>>30145181
i lol'd
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>>30144495
How do you like hakim any experience with the fn-49 ?
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>>30145350

I love my Hakim, only thing I don't like is the price of 8mm. I don't trust the bolt either, not about to let that thing slam on my thumb so I always reload with the mag out.

No experience with the FN-49, besides holding one at a show once.
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>>30114581
Pics of the gun?

Some models of CETME don't work with claws
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>>30114960
Centurys are hybrids
They use a metric lower but an inch kit
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>>30114960
Are you using DSA mags?
If so, stop
That's an inch magwell and Dsas don't work
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>>30145839
Cut your teeth on guns with ARs?

Century built those abortions yes.
The also had a very short run in the late 90s with a metric upper that had some inch geometry on it. Also did some pure metric/metric builds. Doesnt matter what you get, your likely to have issues with it if CAI marked it.
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So.. I'm thinking of starting my first battle rifle build.

But my first question is this: Do Veprs count as BRs? I'm looking at a 7.62x39 with a 16 inch barrel as a base.

Questions, comments, input, viscous attacks?

Pic only semi related. Not what I'm going for.
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>>30145943
>viscous attacks?
You like slavshit so you have no taste, and your looking at x39 so you dont want a battle rifle. Try /akg/ for some advice that. Decide to step up to a real rifle, in a real caliber, this is your place.
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>>30114411
>sent in cmp order for a garand in February
>killing myself from the wait
>they just processed someones order that is 176 orders before mine

Soon.
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>>30145943
vicious*
I can't spell for shit.

>>30145975
I'd be lying if I sad the SA58 isn't on my radar. How is it on aftermarket parts? And how much "better" is .308 than the x39?
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>>30146023
.308 is good to 1000m
There are better cartridges for work that far out though.
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>>30146047
>1000 yards.
Fair point. But what if I'm not all that interested in long range shooting?
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>>30146092
The increased power also is useful for penetrating barriers and thin skinned game. The capability of shooting long range doesnt mean you have to use it that way. Hell, enough fags here stick with irons.
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>>30114411
Getting a Scope for my FNAR
Should i get a Vortex Viper PST 1-4x24 TMCQ MRAD or a Vortex Strike Eagle 1-6x24 and why?

20" barrel
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>>30146121
.308
20" bbl
Rifle with do moa

wants a low, low power optic

Go with a 2.5-10 at least man.
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>>30131109
Schweiz?
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>>30146154
Yes even the swiss ones
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>>30146141
I want to get a Nightforce 2.5-10 but its so expensive but thats the end goal scope for it.

I am thinking of getting a 1-4 or 1-6 that i will later move to my 10/22.

any good fairly cheap quality scopes with 2.5-10?
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>>30146183
I love my NF 2.5-10
Vortex isnt that bad

So your looking for a mega budget scope?
http://www.primaryarms.com/primary-arms-414x44mm-riflescope-rgrid-reticle/p/pa4-14xffp-r-grid/
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>>30146202
>that reticle
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>>30146223
Gets you started getting used to Horus reticles.
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>>30146119
.308 is probably really good for boar hunting, I bet.
I guess the ability to be able to shoot up the that range would be nice.
They do make 16" veprs in .308 win... So I'll take that into consideration.
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>>30146202
Buying a scope mount for 300$
I'll think i'll just get a 1-4 vortex viper for the moment.
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>>30146244
Sphur, decent mount. Check out GDi too.
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Magpul shit is cheap, magpul shit looks okay.

Defending Rei one .308 at a time.
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>>30146297
Magpul stocks are nice.
Magpul magpuls are nice
The rest of it....
Well, the VFGs are okay
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>>30146312
Thanks, fwend.

When I was putting shit on it, I wanted to be able to make it better looking than an over sized A2 style. It's just that I rarely ever see anyone make almost a complete magpul furniture AR.

For the price, I think the stuff is pretty reasonable. I even have their grip panels on my 1911. Love it. But I'd totally buy better stuff if I could.
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>>30146394
For the price (except some of the stocks) are highly reasonable.
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>>30146420
Oh totally, the PRS was like....225. I only got it because I thought it looked cooler than the original.

Shit is super expensive. The only one that isn't overly priced is the MOE rifle stock.

I've seen it go for like 40 in other places.

Link for reference.

https://www.magpul.com/products/moe-rifle-stock
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>>30146452
I love the UBR, not really any cheaper.
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Hey /brg/, whats the best NJ legal G3 clone? If its possible one that has aftermarket wooden furniture?
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>>30146490
if you live in a ban state you really should consider an m1a
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>>30146477

It seems like their stocks are more widely accepted than their hand guards,
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>>30146514
Already got one famborghini, love it.
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>>30146523
The handguards aren't free float, and for some, that's a deal breaker.

>>30146514
Ban state people need to consider moving.
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>>30146539
Planning to in a couple years, my family needs my aid for now.
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>>30146539

To each their own I guess. I can see where that's an issue for some. I want a low profile gasblock but money. Heh.

Because I'm a total weeb I'd even try to get the whole Knights SR-25 barrel and rail on it if I could. HSOTD did it.
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>>30146514
where are you from
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>>30127013
So he can be filtered. It's really a courtesy to us.
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>>30144495
My C308 has been good to me. It's only jammed once and that was when a feed lip on a surplus magazine split. Runs dirty.

Probably put 2000ish rounds through it. I will say the paint on it seems kinda cheep.
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>>30146587
pa
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>>30146745
Where, I'm from Pittsburgh.
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>>30146754
the border of fayette/westmoreland close to summerset
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>>30146582
SR25 barrel would need an SR25 BCG. Not sure if either can be found outside of a full SR25.
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>>30146754
You pa niggers need to check out the erie better beer bureau
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>>30116646
>2 watches

For what purpose?
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>>30147464
The one on the arm holding the gat is a compass I think.
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>>30147496
You are correct sir
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>>30146745
can i fuck you pls
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>>30147464
Because it's time to operate, fag.
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>>30148326
>Elcan
I thought it was time to operate
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>want DSA SA58
>also want new PC
fuuuck.

Make the decision for me /brg/.
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>>30139091
The Mini-14 is an M14 shrunk down to handle 5.56/.223, hence the name. Same action, similar sights. The M1A is nicer but it's also a lot more expensive to buy and feed.
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>>30149301
If you buy the gun you will spend time outside shooting it. If you buy the PC you will spend more time on your ass playing vidya gaems.
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>>30149367
>shrunk down

The Mini-14 is closer in lineage to the M1 Carbine than the M14.
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>>30149402
its more like
>If you buy the gun you will occasionally go outside to shoot it because the range is far away and has dumb rules/fees
>If you buy the PC you will continue to sit on your ass shitposting on 4chan and fingerfuck guns while wondering why you never play video games anymore.
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>>30149487
Maybe your range has dumb rules or fees

Stop projecting
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>>30149612
yes, my range does have dumb rules/fees, why would I lie about my range being terrible.

and I don't think I'm projecting? I mean, its whats going to happen, just straight up that's the reality of the situation.
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>>30131493
O shit waddup
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>>30149780
Not everyone goes to a shit range
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Ptr 91 is the shit for the price
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>>30151390
DSA Voyager is better, same price range
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>>30151390
Which model PTR is that?
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>>30151440
Ptr 91 gi with a steel lower
http://www.keepshooting.com/g3-steel-trigger-group.html
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>>30151426
My ptr 91 is more accurate then my dsa tho
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>>30151535
My DSA does 1.5 moa, buts it's an older SA58
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>>30151209
My dick, my dick is so hard right now. I have a black SCAR that I'd love to look like that. I'm keeping my other one fifty shades of FDE, though.
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>>30151490
That's what I thought but the finish seems too dark. Did you have it refinished?
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>>30151676
My FDE is staying that way too. I want one setup like this. But a white SCAR would be fucking tits
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>>30151390
>Ptr 91 is shit
FTFY kohai.
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>>30151824
Yea parkerized actually
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>>30151857
not a fan of exposed carbon fiber on guns (or most things for that matter) but ill be damned if that isnt sexy
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>>30152216
Im a sucker for good carbon
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>>30145997
>got all my paperwork ready the day before the cutoff
>double check avalibility next day before mailing off because paranoid
>out of stock.
kill me.

I'll just buy a PTR or FAL instead with the cash I was going to put into an M1+ammo. I dont know which to get though.
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>>30150608
I think you're confused.
I'm >>30149301
and >>30149487
Same person. Thus why I belive I'm not projecting when I'm stating facts.
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>>30152376
the top of his helmet looks like a face with a bane mask on
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>>30135946
Hahahaha man you have much to learn. Rare, uh yeah. Worth 1k, lol easy.
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is there any functional difference between the Voyager and the Standard DSA FALs? is one more likely to break or be innacurate?
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>>30146808
I'm in PA too. But I'm near gorilladelphia.
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>>30153447
There is anecdotally more minor QC issues with the voyagers. DSA stands behind the rifles and takes care of things.
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>>30154367
Harrisburg fag here. If Philly did not have paper work for guns I'd move there.
>>
New PTR owner here.

Where should I get my mags from? CTD? Midway? RobertRTG?
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>>30155716
Honestly? Get them wherever they're cheapest after shipping. The mags are surplus, so they'll be in similar condition regardless of where you order from.
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>>30138756
I had a Springfield and IMO its kinda shit for the role of battle rifle, but it looks great and is a lot of fun to shoot.

The controls are wonky and changing mags is hard as fuck. Much easier on an m1, FAL, g3, or SCAR.

The gas system is less reliable than an m1

it is front heavy, especially if you mount the EBR stock like I did (do fucking not get the EBR kit, it is the worst $900 you can possibly spend. It takes a decent rifle and makes it impossibly difficult to shoot)

it is hard to mount optics to, even with the EBR kit.

the trigger sucks.

If you like m14's and you want a fun gun to shoot, look no further. But if you want to set up a DMR or a battle rifle you can use effectively for combat, look literally anywhere else.

I personally have a lot more fun with my m1 than I ever did with my m1a.
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>>30144346
because its fun as fuck to shoot and you can own both.

if you can only afford one right now, id buy a PSA ar-15 and a bunch of ammo. Because AR prices are low right now and you can shoot cheaper than a full sized round, but if you have cash id go with an AR-15 and a battle rifle.

I look at it this way: I like guns, and I like shooting. That is why I buy guns. I buy a lot of guns, because I like all kinds. When people challenge me about how many I have, I remind them that 1. its a neat hobby, 2. guns rarely go down in value, so it can be looked at as an investment, and 3. your hobby won't save you in the zombie apocalypse
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Someone do a new fred
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New thread

>>30156486
>>30156486
>>30156486
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