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cool camo edition

old thread >>30094575
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so what is the preferred barrel profile to get? i read that govt. tactical sucks even its like most common.
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>>30099035
>3min old
>only 2 replies
pathetic
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>>30099035
>cool camo
i gotcha
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>>30099059
hanson profile a best
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>>30099035
Your sewage paint job looks better than that
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>>30099035
In with lizard man dosen't understand math
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How long is the wait time for the mbt?
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in
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For a C7 build, should I get a rifle length buffer tube like the VLTOR kit or would I be able to get away with a carbine lower?
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>>30099088
>$235+$20=$245
you both should kys

>>30099095
2 months for me
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>>30099105
Meh, I feel like I'd rather go with the geisselle. They are pretty nicely discounted this weekend and I could have it in a few days.
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Can someone give me some starter tips on a build? Who makes a decent upper and lower, etc. Let's say the budget is around 800, just for the rifle itself
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>>30099080
isnt it just a pencil barrel?
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>>30099130
do it
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>>30099130
i have both, cant go wrong with a geissele. im shooting the mbt for the first time on monday and ill report back on how it is. but just dry firing it, it feels very similar to my ssa-e

>>30099140
i dont think so
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>>30099144
How do you like the flat bow m8? I've got one in my AK, but anything was better than the mil spec. Not sure if it would feel as natural in my baby's slot..
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In

no camo because I'm a bitch
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>>30099165
I actually enjoy the hell out of it. All the other triggers i own are milspec though, so I don't really have an opinion on other match triggers.
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>>30099154
shill me on it. BA better than arp?
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>>30099233
who is arp? sub moa guarantee and its cheap
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>>30099253
you don't know aarp?
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>>30099294
got a few years until i think about aarp
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>>30099253
fags at cabelas put my aussie ammo back up to 12.99 a box.
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>>30099312
reeeeeeeee i was just going to buy some more
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>>30099312
Shit heels. I'm going there tomorrow to get my discover pass and a box or two of ammo.
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>>30099329
cabelas pisses me off to be honest

>>30099356
thanks for reminding me I need a discover pass, can't be getting a ticket
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>>30099356
i think i have half a box left of the 69gr but it did bretty bad outta my barrel

>>30099380
it was 9.99 for a while, i should have bought more
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I fucking love straight 20s. Fuck fagpul
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>>30099403
20rds is the master race
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>>30099356
>>30099380
where you shoot at?
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https://www.rainierarms.com/quarter-circle-10-glock-large-frame-lower-receiver

Convince me not to make a 10mm SBR with one of these?
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>>30099035
Ayy
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>>30099380
Yup about a month ago when the date was set for today to go shoot I was hammered and bought a one day pass for today. Since we rescheduled I figure that was a sign I should get the annual. So I'm heading up to cabelas tomorrow to get it since my old man gave me a gift card for them.
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>>30099439
>(compliant)
c u c k e d

>>30099429
47.922164, -121.753788
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>>30099441
whats a one day pass cost?
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>>30099448
...
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>>30099253
what program is that?
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>>30099390
No worries man, I haven't shot for a tight group in about 5 years. I might be able to pick up one box of 20 after I buy the annual pass.
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Considering getting one of the PSA rifle kits and building my old man a basic AR. They worth a shit or should I get something higher quality?
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>>30099458
11 bucks. Certainly not the worst drunk purchase I have made though.
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>>30099471
OnTarget

>>30099479
if ya do imo get the 55gr box

>>30099486
they are gtg.

>>30099496
not bad, i think the annual was like $37
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>>30099479
while pb's gun doesn't like the 69, here's about what I can get.

It's like 1.05 inches
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>>30099486
Anything PSA is fine except for PTAC. Avoid that like the plague as well as dpms. Fuck dpms and colt
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>>30099506
you have a rainier barrel right?
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>>30099531
yes, and I actually just gave it a really good cleaning. It was so dirty that it might just shoot better now

it's a mountain series I think
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>>30099543
1/7? i should probably give mine a good cleaning after all the steel shit i feed it
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>>30099505
Yeah I'll honeslty be getting out more this summer so I should have got the annual in the first place but who knows why I do the things I do while drunk.

>>30099506
Yeah it will be a rough time for me honestly. i haven't been actually shooting shooting in about a year and a half, mainly due to work, school, and moving. I put 50 rounds through this rifle when I got it built, but that was to make sure it wasn't gonna explode on me. If there's any issue with the grouping it's gonna be me and not the ammo.
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>>30099512
who makes PTAC?
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>>30099590
me, i do it over the weekends
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>>30099560
I'll bring my cleaning rod and patches with some hoppes. you can throw a few down if you want to break some shit loose.

>>30099579
honestly, shooting from bags and bench isn't really "easy" I still shake so much trying to hold perfect
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>>30099590
PSA said that PTAC is a local company and they use PSA as their means of distribution

>>30099579
>i haven't been actually shooting shooting in about a year and a half
thats no fun m8, ill bring all muh ammo
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>>30099560
oh yeah, it's 1/7
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>>30099616
thats what i do after i shoot it but i should take the time and really clean it.
i need to make the drive to a range that doesnt have retarded rules like kenmore so i can try for groups
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>>30099616
the one thing I learned from archery was to just let it float and let the shot go when you fell confident. Don't force it.

>>30099619
Yeah being an adult sucks dick.
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>>30099634
Yeah mine needed a real good scrubbin.
RO at the local range said he was going to give me some time on "the hill" after I enlisted. I think its a long range on his property

>>30099649
I always instantly know when I shoot a flier haha
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>>30099689
>some time on "the hill"
he wants you to fuck his ass
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>>30099703
K E K
E
K

you got me.
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Quick story since I don't have /Arg/ shit to post besides this.

>Be me at 9pm last night
>Anon wanna go shooting tomorrow?
>Fuckyeah.jpg
>Wake up at 5am start throwing shit in the car, chairs, table, ezup, ammo, guns.
>Fuck yeah lets do this shit, drive an hour out get everything set up and get guns out.
>Where the fuck are my mags?
No fucking mags, left them all at home since I just moved so had them separated. No Ar-15mags and no 30-06 mags.

Well a single shot AR-15 isn't as fun.. Good thing we brought other shit.
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>>30099770
That sucks. I have a checklist of shit I manually go through
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>>30099906
The most annoying thing was I took 3 mags out specifically to go but got so caught up in getting ready left them on my shelf.

It was still a pretty good day, shot a 686 .357, perfecta 357's are a little hot and spit a little.
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>>30099975
That blows.

And wheelguns are fun.
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Fuck you guys for not being excited for me. I'm one step closer to my gun being complete and after all the bitching and complaining you fags say nothing.

Next is my stock and getting the lower milled, then my upper
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>>30099770

Happened to me before. That range session wasn't much fun.

>>30100191
>Fuck you guys for not being excited

...you ordered an LPK and wasted $8 on shipping it alone.
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>>30100191
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xp8H6j2vAxE
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>>30100191
ill be happy for you when you no longer live in California. Until then no mater what you do it's still a neutered raifu
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comments welcome.
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>>30100191
Mill the lower first. Where in Cali are you from? 805 here
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>>30100306
Looks like a decent rifle.
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>>30100306
looks like garbage.
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>>30100306
why the riser?
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>>30100348
to get it above the BUIS and make it easy to detach, the rings that came with the scope are very low so it really does place it better for me. It is a heavy scope and I don't plan on using it too much longer on that gun. When I finally get around to buying a bolt action I think I'll use that scope on it. I also bought a red dot at the same time but it turns out I don't like red dots. So I only take of the scope to use the iron sights.
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Aimpoint PRO $389 with Cabela's 10% off and free shipping right now. (backordered, but it's $40-50 savings) for anyone looking to jump on a Red dot.

https://www.slickguns.com/product/aimpoint-pro-12841-use-promo-code-56salute-backorder-available
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>>30100237
Kys

>>30100276
Thanks

>>30100297
Fair enough

>>30100327
760 master race
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>>30100191
who are you and who cares ?
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>>30100766
>who are you

Wow that's ironic coming from a European
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>>30100766
literally who the fuck are you mr newfriend
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>>30100779
Austrian is rather known around here


you... not
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>>30100795
see
>>30100797
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Posting in a garbage thread
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>>30099439
And now the abnormally long ground shipping begins.
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>>30099035
tfw just painted rifle

hope it isn't giddy tier
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>>30099098
carbine will work, but it is snappier in recoil.

another good thing the A5 system does is bring the rifle's center of balance rearwards
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>>30098259
>>30098285
When did you see me? I just went yesterday.


Topkek you prolly saw mi madre, but seriously I'm looking to go to the next FL /k/ meet and I don't know how many people from South Florida actually go.

>>30099035
In with troptical camo
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it's raining.
guess i won't be trying out my barrel today, that sucks.
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>>30099137
Anderson lower
Lower parts kit
Carbine buffer tube kit
Carbine buttstock of choice
16" PSA Premium or CHF upper

Good start for Babbys first build
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>>30099110
Are you building a deck? Or putting a wiring harness in your truck?
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In for Letsego hates me because I watch stupid cartoons.

Kekmas 2016. Now my /arg/ friend count is back down to....I dunno.

Now I'm going to post my rifles that I like, and the same guy who never posts his rifles is going to call them shit.
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>>30101941
You got that right my man.
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>>30101941
dey shit m8
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>>30101941
Fortis is fucking gay

So is MLOK

Your rifles a shit
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>>30102094
>>30102104

Kekmas 2016. At least I've seen your rifle, so I'll let you have that.
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>>30100711
>buying a new Aimpoint for 400 when you can buy a brand new, stolen one for only 300.
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in
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>>30102107
the larping thing is fine but combine it with animu shit its too much, I have to hate you.

I once went to a ren fair and got rip roaring drunk and saw plenty of tits falling out of what ever those womans were wearing.Fun stuff need to go to another one.
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Have unused upper receiver. What type of AR should I build?
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>>30102177
a shitty one
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>>30102115
It'll turn out to be a chinese knockoff with internals from an airsoft optic.

GL;HF;KYS
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>>30102177
mk12
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At one event I go to we have baby oil wrestling where the girls get into bakinis and lube up and try to get each others tops off. It's neat stuff.

And the animu is something I don't talk about. I'm not cringey about it. It's a rainy day hobby more than anything.


But fine. Hate me, not like I'm secretly sad or anything.
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>>30099064

3 minutes into his own thread, he posts that same rifle caked in old paint.....
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>>30102194

How do I link posts Jesus I AM the retard.

>>30102174
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>>30102177
do you already have a regular carbine? If yes Build an SPR


If no, then build yourself a general carbine.
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>>30102188
I already have it, it's real, confirmed by Aimpoint.
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giddy you are a massive faggot. Post that rifle you have, you know the one with all the paint.
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gf wants an AR, thinking about building a mostly Aero 16" with MLOK, eventually toss some kind of red dot on it, B5 furniture. thoughts?
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>>30102228
>thoughts?
post gf
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>>30102228
sounds gud 2 me
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>>30101163
I know PSA has long lead times, especially during holiday sales, but for other shippers how long does it usually take for them to ship out a lower?

When I ordered mine they had a box where you could put comments and I filled it with as much information on the FFL I'm having them ship it to as possible.
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>>30102229

"no"
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Welp, finally got my Omega after a 5 month wait, thanks ATF.

Also, anyone know if some good Rifle ranges in MN that are open to the public? Tired of driving an hour an a half to the dirt hole in Pine County.
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>>30102194
yeah ren fares are something that's fun to be a fly on the wall, git lit, stare at boobies, and eat good food.

>>30102214
Dat M14 EBR, my nostalgia rifle. would love to buy one just to have but that's divorce level money.
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>>30102252
Another pic because I can.
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>>30102244
lame. aero is fine
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>>30102255
they're shit guns
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>>30102214
see
>>30099064
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>>30102255

I'm going to keep pretending you are my friend because I am a sad little man.
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anyone seen 13 hours? im about to watch it, is it good?
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>>30102265

Yeah I like my aero parts, you can build a whole rifle from them pretty cheap
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>>30102270
think of me as your older brother who calls you a faggot and throws an unopened can of spaghetios at you as he pass by your room.

>>30102277
its very good, a political which makes it a great film about what those guys went through. much better film than i thought it would be.
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>>30102299

I've always dreamed of having a brother. kek
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Just picked her up yesterday.

Figured I'd let her stretch her legs.
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>>30102303
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>>30102261
Looks good.
Am jelly.
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>>30102299
good
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Gotta order another dust cover spring for the A1, end fuckin' sheered itself off.
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>>30102348
Thanks, all I need now is an upper in 300blk, but ain't nobody got time for that.
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>>30102338
Very nice, I'd replace the Stock and Grip ASAP
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>>30102338
gross

>>30102357
>fuckin' sheered itself off.
sure thing, giddy, totally not your fault.

>>30102252
congrats
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>>30102377
Was it you that had the LMT enhanced bolt inside the Cryptic BC?
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>>30102357
>it's self
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>>30102404
only person gucci enough
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>>30102431
Is that the mystic black coating? You've inspired me to do the same. I wish I could take the LMT enhanced carrier and have Cyptic coat it. The carrier itself looks beefier than the Cryptic
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am I cool yet, guys?
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>>30102466
I can dig it, the MOE + grips color throws me off though
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>>30102473
The stock, grip and in the futur rail covers are all FDE, but I didn't realize cerakotes FDE differed so much from magpuls
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>>30102498
oh that's going to look really sexy then,
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>>30102451

That's mystic gold. If you want a mystic black bolt get one literally right now before they're out of stock again for months.

pic related is mystic black
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>>30102451
yup, mystic black.

i just wish i could get the lmt bolt coated, carbon just wipes off the cryptic bolt that i have in my 10.3.
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>>30102508
m8, did you just say that pic was mystic gold?
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>>30102509
So I guess its agreed that if Cryptic coated the full LMT BCG it would be the best BCG out there right now.
>>30102508
I seriously hope months is exaggerating, I just bought some other shet and I don't want to have to wait months to get my BCG
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>>30102509

I thought you only have that one, same rifle you always post?
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>>30102546
yes

>>30102544
yes
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>>30102261
>no pew
>pew
>pew pew pew
I like.
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>>30102519

This >>30102431

Isn't mystic gold?

>>30102544

Ive been waiting for mystic black to be in stock since about March, I know it was in stock once between then and now but by the time I got on to buy one it was sold out again.
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in

Basic bitch soon
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>>30101782
>not stripping a truck of its wires
>not burning said wires for the copper
>take copper to scrap yard
>$$$$$$$$$$
>??????????
>buy meth
>welcome to Indiana

In all honesty, its a junk truck on my grandparents property and my grandpa had/has all that shit up there for some reason
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>>30102563
Are the carriers at least normally in stock in case I decide to go the route of the LMT bolt and Cryptic carrier?
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>>30102642

No idea, I was only ever looking for the BCG
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>>30102544
why in the world do you want an LMT BCG?
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>>30102663
The carrier itself has a few beefed up portions on the front of the carrier and on the side rails, the lubricity of the cryptic carrier outweighs the strength benefits of the LMT, but in a perfect world we would have both
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Did this yesterday with a $35 Anderson lower.

Cheap paint job, but I think it looks kind of cool
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>>30102563
>Isn't mystic gold?
no, i only have one and it's mystic black
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>>30102671
>beefed up portions on the front of the carrier
data please
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>>30102675
If you could make a paint job that pairs perfectly with the quality of Anderson lowers, that would be it.
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>>30102675
>paints pin holes and threads

LOL!
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>>30102374
>replacing the best grip and stock on the market
kil urself
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>>30102694
Yeah, because a hole punch could never drive a pin through paint right?

You're just jealous of my art, I totally get it.
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>>30102692
Blue is what I'm talking about, Red is extra gas port, Black is extra material on the side which I'm not sure how much it actually plays into effect. But Blue looks like it'll give a tighter seal around the bolt
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>>30102675
It looks like when I forgot I left a bunch of paint cans on the floor of my garage and ran them over on my way home from work
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>>30102714
>What is a +- .001 tolerance Alex?

You go ahead and do that, go ahead and buy some KNS anti rotation pins as well.
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>>30102715
uhhhh, interesting

Blue isnt gonna do shit for a tighter seal, your gas rings are for that.

Also no idea why the fuck you need another port when the two port design is more then enough. As for the extra shit in black, why lmt?
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>>30102729
Yeah Anderson totally makes super tight tolerance parts.

I cerakoted my Noveske and everything fits fine, settle down.
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>>30102748
Extra port seems useful for suppression
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>>30102770
>>30102748
as in reducing the gas blowing back into my face through my charging handle.
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>>30102755
>admitting to buying sub par quality
>i cerakoted
You know they strip off the hard coat and replace it with the cerakote right?

Its your $50 liberal art project mang, do you
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>>30102748
>As for the extra shit in black
it's not extra, the actually removed part of the guide rails for "cutting through debris"
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>>30102770
>>30102776
And it could be useful for suppression for all i know, I didn't know the OP of LMT bolt was going to suppress it.
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>>30102675
the ride never ends

based off how many layers of paint you have over the roll mark and safe and fire markings, you have thoroughly fucked up the tolerances on that lower.

you see in pic related that you can still read everything? that's a not shit paint job unlike what you posted.

Let me guess you used latex based paint didn't you?
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>>30102780
Thats what I thought, but because of the angle and lighting I wasn't sure what was going on there. That might be useful as well
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>>30102681

huh. It looks so very gold in that one pic
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>>30102806
mspaint
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>>30099064
Take your trip off, you're embarrassing yourself with that paint job.
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>>30102777
I guess you can't understand English very well because "I cerakoted my Noveske" means exactly what is typed.

And I'm not sure what company you like if Noveske is subpar quality.
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>>30102815

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>>30102815
>>30102837

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>>30102837
>>30102847
fags
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>>30102847
>>30102888

kys
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>>30099097
>>30102228
>>30102907

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE!
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>>30102714
>>30102729

The lower fits another anderson upper better than before it was painted.

>Getting this mad
>Getting this mad about other people's shit
>Getting this mad about other people's shit that will end up working just as well as any other 350-400 AR.

Also, that shit comes off you fucking mong
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Show of the dissipators! Also what the hell is pic related and where can I buy one?
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>>30103187
You have a dissy? Pics please
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movie was bretty good. i want to opr8 now
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>>30103236
I should load up 13 Hours..
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>>30103236
wut movie?
>>
what folding rear sight would y'all recommend?
I don't have a lot of experience and I want something that I'll be happy with.
I've been looking at the mbus pro and the troy battlesight but any other recommendations would be appreciated
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>>30103319
780 minutes
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>>30103319
13 hours secret to hillarys emails

>>30103336
kac from ebay or mbus pro
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>>30103336
In reality the only three choices are the MBUS PRO, the Troy, and the KAC. I just bought the MBUS PRO because it has the lowest profile of the 3
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>>30103336
KAC Micro or Troy battlesight from Ebay. The KAC should be ~$60 and the Troys go for anywhere from $70-90.

If you want new, the MBUS is pretty good (I don't like its shape but it's a solid sight) and you can usually get new-in-package USMC-stamped KAC Micros off ebay for the same price as used ones.
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>>30103236
Your barrel seems to be lumpy.
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>>30103365
its from tape i never took off
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>>30103187
>what the hell is pic related?
A bayonet for dissy's. If you couldn't tell from "cmmg inc" CMMG makes them. For their dissy's.
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>>30099419
is that an a1 stock? if so, where'd you get it? i just got an anderson lower for shits and gigs and i'd like to put some a1 furniture on it.
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My birthday is in 3 weeks and I want to pick up an AR-15. I'm a college student, so super-expensive memes are out of my budget. I was looking at these two rifles from classic:
>https://www.classicfirearms.com/ar-15-for-sale-m4-flat-top-bear-creek-ar15
and
>https://www.classicfirearms.com/radical-firearms-ar-15-fr16-556sp-12fgs-rifle
for about $500. They both have good reviews, but i'm leaning towards the Bear Creek. Would the melonite lining on the Radical Firearms rifle be a big factor? It's just going to be a range toy, as if anybody broke in I'd take my WASR or my 12 gauge first. Are either of these brands particularly shitty?
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>>30102124
where in WA do you shoot?
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>>30103450
yes sir its a1. i got it from fulton armory iirc $100. the 20rd mag and a1 grip i got from numrich, iirc $10 for the grip and $14 for the mag

>>30103461
sultan and kenmore if i want to shoot off a bench
47.922164, -121.753788
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>>30103460
bear creek is shit, same with radical arms. save up another 100 and get a psa rifle kit and an anderson lower
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>>30102431
how Gucci would you say a Noveske RCA BCG is?
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>listed my arsenal for sale at noon

>already got a guy who wants to meet up and buy it tomorrow

well alright then. looks new AR build is coming soon.
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>>30103469
cool, thanks for the link and shooting area coordinates.

also
>kenmore
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>>30103505
np m8. some of us are going out there tomorrow if ya want to join us

>kenmore
i know it fucking sucks but its the closest range to me
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>>30103496
I would have bought it senpai

I'm kinda in the mood for an AK
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>>30103524
damn sounds tempting, but i'm driving down to oly to pick up an upper tomorrow. i'm up in monroe every now and then to shoot though.
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>>30099035
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>>30103550

It's ok but it's just a toy to me, I'd rather have another AR like the one I'm planning

>aero parts mostly
>mlok rail
>B5 furniture
>trijicon MRO
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Building my first ar with a bcm upper. Will getting a ff rail be worth it or should I just get magpul for end and save the money for a red dot
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>>30103344
oh, yeah, that was a really good movie.

>>30103490
7/10, have one in my 10.3 with the cryptic bolt
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>>30103551
You shoot in the old quarry out in Monroe?
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>>30103599
the one up that logging road on old forest road? yeah, every now and then. it's a hike up from the gate but i enjoy it. hiking around that area is pretty fun, too.
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>>30103590
if you can afford a good free-floater, then yeah. otherwise, there is nothing wrong with a magpul SL handguard on a delta ring setup if you dont mind the slight POA/POI shift when barricading your AR on stuff.
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I want a new barrel because the guy who pinned my brake on (which has since been cut off) left globs of metal on the barrel and it looks disgusting. 14.5" what should I get? I'd like an upgrade from my current bcm bfh barrel
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>>30102466
what stock is that
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>>30103810
Looks like a troy pdw stock.

One of the trips told me lol IV ceramic is best but after watchING some videos on it, it seems like steel would be better if it's got the shit that catches the bullet fragments. Anyone have any input on that?
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>>30103590
Depends on what your idea of "worth it" is.
>accuracy off a rest
Yes, it is.
>having a handguard all the way to the muzzle for TOB/minimizing barrel shadow with a light/having somewhere to put an IR laser that doesn't interfere with your grip
Yes, it is.
>joining the cool kids club
Matter of opinion
>saving weight
Not unless you're willing to drop a lot of money.
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>>30103831
Ceramics stop more (AP rounds) for the same thickness and significantly less weight, plus do better with spalling even compared to a coated steel plate.

But they cost 2-3x (or more) as much.
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>>30103879
>>30103831
Also keep in mind the military uses a separate rating system than NIJ, though generally it's similar.
>SAPI
Must stop 3 consecutive rounds of .308 M80 ball anywhere on plate AND 1 round of .30-06 M2 AP no closer than 1" to previous strikes. Predicates military-issue soft armor backing and does not support standalone usage. Considered obsolete.
>ESAPI/XSAPI
Must stop 3 consecutive rounds of .30-06 M2 AP within a 1" area; predicates military-issue soft armor backing and does not support standalone usage
>NIJ lvl 4 standalone
Must stop 2 of 3 .308 "AP" (with no specification on which AP bullet) anywhere on the plate
>NIJ lvl4
Same as lvl4 standalone with the addition of a lvl3A soft armor backing, considered obsolete
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>>30103810
Troy pdw short stock

>sorry if my phone flip turned upside downs my pic
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>>30103760
>it's a hike up from the gate but i enjoy it
thats what i hear
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>>30103915
So which would you say is the way to go? Ceramic lvl 4?
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I think I'm going to eventually go with the SilencerCo Omega on my build, what suppressors do you guys use?
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>>30104056
Was going to buy one Wednesday but it looks like I'll be waiting one more check. Fucking rent REEE
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>>30104056
solvent trap
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>>30103975
Yes
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>>30104080
You were going to buy an Omega? Sweet, what rifle were you going to put it on
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>>30104056
That's what I'm buying once my local gun store stops being stupid niggers and learns how to fill out a form 1
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>>30103915
>taking 3 consecutive .30-06 hits
Wouldn't you be jelly?
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>>30104097
My AR. I'm ordering some green tip and mbus pros to hold myself over. I like that it's rated to .300wm because that may be my next build but if that isn't .308 will be.
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>>30104105
Aren't suppressors Form 4s?
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>>30104127
No?

Less energy than a fastball from a major league pitcher, and people take those all the time in nothing but a shirt.
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>>30104150
Storebought ones yes, but you can form1 a homebuilt.
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>>30104150
My bad for confused with my SBR stamp, yes form 4
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>>30104127
no you'd be toast!
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Guys I want to get a new home defense upper but I'm having trouble finding an upper in a particular configuration. I want to get an SBR 10" barrel chambered in either .458 SOCOM or .50 Beowulf. Does anyone know of a company that makes them?
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>>30104277
http://www.jenamygunshop.com/index.html
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>>30099512
How about ATI?
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>>>30101163
>>30101163
i ordered a rifle kit and ammo from them on the 25th it'll be here wednesday. it doesn't seem like they have long lead times.
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My cool camo
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>>30104056
im still waiting for my saker 556 to clear its form 3.

>tfw nobody is sure if it will clear before 41f
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>>30104470
I thought if you paid it was grandfathered?
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>>30104470
>>30104485
Pretty sure it's submission date that matters
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How many ounces would you say a "heavy" handguard would weigh? A light one?
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>>30104470
>tfw dude ordered a can from our shop in January and its still not back yet for sot to sot

Rip dude, doubt im going to get my hybrid before july 13th now.

>>30102748
Pic related hoosier.
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>>30104495
>>30104551
So you're saying I shouldn't wait 2 weeks?
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>>30104592
Tax stamps should be filed as soon as your wallet permits
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>>30102675
I think i like the junk truck with the 2x4s better
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>>30099035
finally an edition that I can jerk my self off in
>>30100191
fucking kill yourself
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>>30104629
Fuck. Might have to cheap out on the supressor a little bit.
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>>30104495
>>30104485
not sure if that applies to form 3's, which is the manufacturer/dealer's clearance to transfer to another dealer. that has to clear before my form 4 and i'm anxious that it wont arrive at my dealer in time for me to fill out the form 4.
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>>30104656
That's the worst idea ever. 41f is not so bad that you need buy garbage in order to get it in before July.
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>>30104592
If you're local shop has the can you want get it now, if its a can online well then you're kinda fucked if you want it before 41p.
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>>30104698
Called my lgs a few days ago and they have an omega already there. Hopefully it's still there when I get there. If not I'm panic buying something probably because that's how I oper8
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>>30104656
I think silencer co just got recce 7's back in stock
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>>30104704
looks like you bought a garbage lower
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>>30104751
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUWJJHZpwzo
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>>30104761
squishy squishy kys newfag
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>>30104467
neat
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>>30103766
How much would a shot be thrown off at say 200 yards if someone shot their magpul-fitted gun off a barrier vs a ff handguard. Like would it cause a miss on a torso in a real world scenario or is it more an issue for long rang/competition
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>>30104710
>fucked
>41p
Why?
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>>30104718
Would you recommend over the omega?
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>>30104784
There's a buncha different factors involved, but unless you were, say, leaning your entire body weight on an ultra-pencil-profile barrel that was already glowing hot, generally not enough to cause a miss at 200.

On a standard gov't or shooter profile barrel you might see anywhere from a 1-3" difference between them.
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>>30104805
Absolutely not, the Omega is probably the best 30 cal can on the market.

>>30104775
Don't worry, it'll be an SBR soon :DD
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>>30104704
I would only be stepping down from the omega to a dedicated .556 can.
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>>30104796
Goes into effect 30 June. Your SOT of choice is not going to have the can in hand by 30 June in order to get the serial # to submit the Form 4. This means you'll be subject to 41F's requirement of passport photo and fingerprint cards even if you have a trust.
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>>30104833
Well there's nothing wrong with that. A lot of people recommend a .30 cal can as their first because it has a wide range of hosts, but come on... be honest with yourself. You're going to buy a can for every gun you want to suppress. A dedicated 5.56 can is absolutely fine, plus they are generally smaller and weigh less.

Check out the Specwar K, it's so freaking light and cheap. Plus it is built like a tank. Uses same mount as omega (ASR).
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>tfw 15% off everything at aero this weekend
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I can't find my sling pls help
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So is a buffer tube with a sock ziptied it good enough for the ATF to classify something as a pistol until my Form 1 comes back?
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>>30104868
Idk if I will be buying more cans. Is there any talk of a 41f appeal or anything? I don't even own a .30 cal but I like the versatility. I really only want to suppress .556 and .45. Thought about build a .300blk upper if I get the omega though
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>>30104898
Check all your ceiling fans, doorways, and second-floor railings. When you find it, use it to hang yourself.

>>30104904
Nobody knows, since they don't follow their own formal instructions.
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>>30104905
>is there any talk of an appeal?
Why? It's generally considered a net win as it removes CLEO signoff and lifts de-facto bans in about a quarter of the country.
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>>30104913
>Check all your ceiling fans, doorways, and second-floor railings. When you find it, use it to hang yourself.
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>>30104897
Get one them monolithic urppers

>>30104913
Can't kms yet I'm going shooting tomorrow
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>>30104927
I guess I don't fully understand the new law. I thought it was mandated CLEO sign off
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>>30104467
what rear sight is that?
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>>30104937

I thought that monolithic uppers were the memest of AR memes.
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>>30104940
They changed it from signoff to notification. You no longer need their approval, just gotta tell them you're doing it.

That was pretty much the main reason NFA trusts even existed--trusts aren't people, they're "legal entities" and didn't need CLEO signoff. It was a way around asshole chiefs that wouldn't sign.
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>>30104950
definitely are, right behind side charging uppers.
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>>30104950
Nah, that'd be piston AR's.

Early-gen monolithics were pretty memetic though, since you had your choice of a 7" monolithic, or...a 7" monolithic.

The Aero one allows you to use any of their FF handguards and isn't truly monolithic--just incorporates the barrel nut into the receiver.
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>>30104950
I think they are neat. Monolithic uppers and designs like rugers barrel swap deal are going to be the new thing imo
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>>30104897
How long do they usually take to ship during/after a holiday weekend?
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>>30104952
I'll just read about it instead of asking you a half a billion questions but I'm still going to try to beat it.
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And now for the greatest question of all...

If I am getting an SBR that I plan on styling as a MK18, should I get a 10.5" barrel, since it will always run fine with suppression backpressure, or should I get an 11.5 so that it will function better if I am running it unsuppressed.

I'm leaning 11.5 to be honest.
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>>30104982
okie. Worst that happens is you end up needing $20 worth of fingerprints and photo.
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>>30104898
You left it on my night stand
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>>30104989
>wants to build a mk18
>not even considering an actual mk18-length barrel
Mk18's use a 10.3" barrel.

And 10.5's run fine both suppressed and unsuppressed as long as you buy them from a reputable company.
>>
>>30104977
My aero stuff shipped a day after I ordered
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>>30104997
lewd
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>>30105003
Did that include any lowers? I'm wondering how long it'll take them to get info from my FFL and get it out to him.

what the fuck my captcha is just white
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>>30104977
>>30105003
>>30105017

last lower I ordered took something like 8 days from order to get to my FFL IIRC
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>>30105017
No lower. I'm sure they are good about getting lowers out though. I bet you can find a lgs with one in stock
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>>30104989
when in doubt... adjustable gas block
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>>30105002

I said MK18 styled. Not a 1-1 copy.
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>>30104905
Well a .30 can isn't going to help you suppress .45... and the hybrid suppressors seem to compromise on too many areas to be worth it (wait for the second gen of hybrids, they will be the ones to get).

If I were you, i'd get the best you can get right now. If that's a 5.56 can, then do it. Don't buy something on the premise of "I might get .300 blk later". You might or you might not, then you're left with a more expensive can than you needed to get that doesn't suppress 5.56 as well as a dedicated can would.
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>>30105065

Thought about it. In a 5.56 gun though I don't think I will need one.
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>>30105002
that .2 of a inch isnt that important
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>>30105042
I opted for the free shipping and bought a couple extra mags instead with the money so I know the actual shipping will be slow, I just hope they don't have issues getting ahold of my ffl dealer. I'm assuming they'd email me if they were having problems? The guy at the gunstore they're being delivered to seems like kind of an ass, but he's got by far the cheapest transfer fee in town.
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Who was it that banged a KMR handguard against a fence post to show how durrble they are and it caved in so bad it was touching the barrel?

I remember the video tried to hide the horrendous damage with edits to protect the message of the video but it still showed in a few shots.
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>>30105080
I'll check out there website and hopefully find you in arg again to run what I find by you. I know I'll be doing a .308 build eventually so I may still go with the omega but I've got 3 days to think/read about it.
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>>30105100
hope u got that registered or prepare to mourn doggo
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>>30105113
BCM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVbZEfQcmqY
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If I decided to cerakote my bolt catch, mag release, and mag release button, would I run into any tolerance issues?
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>>30104844
I thought it went into effect in july, not junr. Is june supposed to be a deadline for dealers or something?
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>>30105108

They were quick dealing with my FFL.

>lgs FFL is an ass but is cheap

this is why I found a standalone dude who does armorer work and has his own FFL, he's much more appreciative to get your business. He's a cool dude too, has a bunch of KAC rifles and gear.

They'll contact you if they have issues processing things. If you live closer to WA you should get stuff quick, depends on how many orders they get this weekend I guess.
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>>30105151
If your FORM 4 is not PENDING by July 13, then you are boned without fingerprints/photos. Which means that if you are buying from an out of state supplier, your SOT must have the suppressor in their hands with enough time to submit the form 4 so that it is pending in the ATF's system before the deadline.

My Form 4 was submitted Feb 7, it was not pending until Feb 22. If you are expecting your form 4 to go pending before 30 days after mailing, you are gambling.
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>>30105129
fkn lol
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>>30105209
I'm sure you could do that to any lightweight rail though. go beat a NSR and see what happens.
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>>30099035
Quick question ARG if I buy a MOE pistol grip from magpul will it come with the required screw to attach it to my lower or do I have to find that shit separately. I usually us an LPK that includes that shit so I honestly dont know if I am building from scratch ish.
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>>30105178
Alright, thanks. Hopefully the guy isn't a dick, but we'll see.
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>>30104779
Was just looking at the dd slim rail last night. Got a spare 16" colt socom.

Love it man
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>>30105231
I was laughing more at the fact that he thought he could swing his rail at a pole and not expect damage
>>30105232
Magpul grips come with the screw to attach it to the lower, but not with the safety selector detent and spring, which is something to keep in mind if you're doing a build from scratch
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>>30105231
I'm sure you could with enough force, but that wasn't a lot in the video. It's because the KMR is that faggy magnesium alloy that flakes and breaks so easily. A 7000 series aluminum handguard would eventually bend too, but not that easily or that badly.
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>>30105207
>>30105207
How am i or anybody else other than the atf supposed to know if the form 4 i send in will be in PENDING status if i do even manage to get a form 4 in before 41f? Send a check and just hope they cash it before then?
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>>30105284
KMRs are aluminum now, and have been for a while iirc. Not sure about the one in the video but either way, you'd put a dent in almost anything doing that.
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>>30105070
So in other words "generic SBR #9238074" right?
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>>30105291
WELCOME TO THE GUBBERMINT, FRIENDO.
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>>30105257
Okay good. Should be fine. I am planning to use a CMMG Gun Builder LPK that comes with everything but the pistol grip and FCG. Picture has the the selector switch, detent and spring so should be g2g.
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>>30105307
PSA has something similar for $29 this weekend only for memorial day. CMMG's is $10 more expensive.
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>>30105284
so buy the KMR alpha which is aluminum.
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>>30105392
>>30105392
>>30105392
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>>30102675
Good to know weird painting is everywhere.
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