Did Russia just get it's ass kicked in Syria?

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>>30074545
Butthurt, vodka addled troglodytes in 3. . .2. . .1

>>30074585

Monkey model Russian base.

>>30074545
So...is this like Star Wars Rebels destroying an imperial Star Destroyer with a squadron of A Wings and Y Wings, or a smaller ship, like a Victory Class, or Imperial Light Cruiser or Carrier, or Gozanti-class Cruiser?

How significant is this?

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>>30074545

Better image.

>>30074684

No one cares about your star wars space ships that only neck beards that read obscure comics that came with happy meals meant for children on Friday night could know about.

>>30074684
like a group of sandpeople blowing up 4 tiefighters and a tie vanguard on Tattooine.

Mostly it's egg on the face, but it was a strategic location.

A U.S. defense official told CNN that it appeared to be an accident that caused a chain reaction of explosions and not the result of enemy action.

>>30074714

Russia can't afford to lose working military aircraft like the US can. It's not like Russia is known for it's Air Force. If those were Havocs and not Hinds that would be a severe blow. I really wonder what the death toll was.

>>30074707
You need scale man...I'd think Russians losing their main base in Syria is pretty fucking bad, or is this like the landing strip for a few scout fighter bombers that were placed too close to the front lines?

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>>30074707
>tfw no limited edition star wars happy meal comic

>>30074734

Bullshit, vatnik. The space between the depot and landing strip is too spaced out. Militaries section off and reinforce assets to prevent major loss by mishap.

>>30074739
So they lost Tie Avengers, or Tie Defenders?!

Damn, that's a blow, those are some of the Empires best ships, perhaps best in the galaxy, and they are out of production thanks to the traitor Admiral Zaarin.

>>30074545
>Thoughts?
Yes, it's bullshit.

>>30074786

Your attempt at memeing is as lame as rushing your fat diabetic fingers to tell someone the weapon they wish to inquire about is a FAMAS rifle.

>>30074796

Yeah, I bet the CIA painstakingly hoaxed it like the moon landing.

>>30074545
>Russian
>get their ass kicked
Is this even a news?

>>30074734
>that's when a spark from the obliterated helicopters blew over and destroyed the mig fighter.
>that's when a spark from the mig fighter blew over and obliterated the supply depot

>>30074786
No, slavs can replace hinds.
It's more like losing a lot of tie/lns on the ground. An anally embarrassing and serious setback, but not a crushing blow

>>30074707
My mind is boggled at how accurate and large of an attack would even require this. I'm not even sure ISIS is capable of that kind of procedure.

I'm noncommittal, but seriously, how?

>>30074739
>Russia can't afford to lose working military aircraft like the US can. It's not like Russia is known for it's Air Force
stop posting

FUCKING ruskie trying to deny EVIDENCE. What wrong with ruskies ? Why are they so stupid ?

>>30074843

But it's the truth

>>30074734
>A U.S. defense official told CNN that it appeared to be an accident that caused a chain reaction of explosions and not the result of enemy action.

Yeah I'm sure DOD's top generals were analyzing this and concluded some conscript slipped on a banana peel and Rube Goldberg'd the entire base into destruction.

>>30074843

>LIES RUSSIA STRONG!
Stop posting

>>30074824

It happened a lot in Operation Flashpoint CWC

>>30074869
That would be pretty funny to watch no lie

>>30074869
I'm imagining some sort of MGSV shenanigans causing it.

>>30074841
I'm inclined to agree with this.
It looks, from the images, as if ISIS has hit every single "asset" on the base, and either missed very few rounds or hit it so many times the misses literally blur into each other.

In other words, they either have pin-point accuracy artillery which seems unlikely, or they have a metric fuckton of munitions which, while more likely, still feels odd.

But i dunno.

>>30074831
Well, some officer is gonna get force choked for this.

>>30074545
motor and rocket attack could do that. chain reactions from exploding trucks etc

>>30074883
>>30074867
Russia has shit tons of spare airframes. They lost a whole bunch in the past. I mean 3 Hind D/V isn't a crazy loss.

>>30074918
>missed very few rounds
They missed on TONS of rounds. Just around one helicopter, you can see 12 mortar holes

>>30074824
>Then it fell over, then sank into the swamp!

>russkies run away
>Capture empty hangar
>pour a bunch of gasoline on ground
>We did it guys

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>>30074928

>>30074841
something doesn't seem right with this image

not sure what

>>30074918
the imagery released to the public is not high enough resolution to see much beyond the scorchmarks left by the burning
It is safe to assume the US has some extremely detailed pictures of the area that have been combed over by several people that have been doing it forever

I don't see any FUCKING helicopters.
Fuck off ISIS shill.

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>>30074935

Sure buddy. I'm, sure Russia has tons of working airframes and isn't suffering from post USSR decay, corruption and neglect.

>>30074869
it's kinda common with russians senpai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnjFphtbDU4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4Nt5MgTQxc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOQ_Lw7gwGQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFTdYOD4ANI

>>30074975
>it's still 2005

>>30074959
meant for >>30074707

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>>30074959
>LIES ALL LIES RUSSIA STRONG ANY EVIDENCE TO THE CONTRARY IS CIA PHOTOSHOP!

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>>30074974

Open your eyes, Ivan. Master Putin isn't going to just give you a free beet and potato juice, you have to earn that shit hard in the RIDF.

Where in Syria is this base actually located? Can someone provide me with longitude and latitude?

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>>30074989

>2006 was the year Russia stopped being grossly incompetent and totally got their shit together.

What if the Israelis did it? It's close enough that they could have done it.

>>30074935
>Russia has shit tons of spare airframes.

Russia isn't the US. Their Air Force isn't their strong suit. This type of thing will hit them harder than the US experiencing the same losses.

>>30075010
http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=34.528162&lon=37.642926&z=18&m=b

>>30075039

Implying Russia couldn't wipe out the Israelis in hours. The Russian military makes the IDF/IAF look like the fluffies from fluffy abuse comics on /b/.

>>30075061
Thanks, pham.

>>30075072
I'm not saying Russia couldn't. But what I'm saying the Israel is stupid enough to have done it, remember USS Liberty.

>>30075039
I don't think they'd risk an alpha strike over some hinds and a MiG.

>>30074935
Not all spares are equal anon

A Hind sitting in cool dry place with all the engines and avionics removed and also stored in a cool dry place with people doing monthly inspections is one thing but just letting a Hind sit in a Moscow suburb getting covered with moss is another

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>>30075102

>I don't think they'd risk an alpha strike

How many clan ommimechs does the Russian military have?

>>30074545
>Thoughts
These blast points... Too accurate for sand people.

>>30075157

So...Nose niggers?

>>30074545
So I'm supposed to believe Russia just has a bunch of it's shit sitting out in the open with no parameter defense of any kind?

>>30075143
They mostly have Hunch Backs and Urban Mechs doing most of their work, but their flagship poster boys of the Russian Army are those Vultures they managed to capture when the Clans abandoned a warehouse full of them and Cougars as well.

>>30075294

No. CIA made the base and faked it.

>>30075299

They're called Mad Dogs, freebirth.

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>>30075294
Yes. Every Russian base is just 4 Hinds, 1 Mi-8, 1 mig-25 Foxbat and 20 supply trucks.

Everything else is inflatable mockups.

>>30075176
Yes, this most be the work of the Nose Troopers!

>>30074545
>Did Russia just get it's ass kicked in Syria?
Yes Russia was BTFO by The Jewnited States of Yerusalem.

It's easy for the ISIS to hit Russian equipment when mossad and cia agents working within them tell them every location.

>>30075892

Yeah. Russia is too weak to stand up to the Mighty Jews and the US. They should have never tried to lift a finger against the wishes of Master Israel.

>>30075892
>>30075901
How should Israel teach Russia a lesson?

Forced immigration of every ethiopian jew into Moscow?

>>30074636
top kek

>>30074895
I wish they'd remake that and the resistance expansion with the A3 engine...

>>30075693

Are the inflatable mockups filled with magic diesel that one small "accident" causes the entire base to blow up?

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>it's another state department shilling against russia episode

i think the problem is not that russia is getting weaker or shit,it's that the arab is getting better or shit

>>30075994

Why are their muppet boobs next to Burt's head.

Why don't they have a head?

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>>30075994

Maybe Russia shouldn't suck ass at defending their bases.

>>30075072
>Implying Russia couldn't wipe out the Israelis in hours.

Russia couldn't, and that is Israel by itself.

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>>30075994

Cossak thinks the US must have a internet shill force like Russia as there is no way people could think Russia is a joke without government intervention.

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>>30076029

Get off the computer, Jew boy. Israel can't even build a tank that measures up to Japan or South Korea's most modern MBT. They even canceled the Tavor for being a shit. IDF is a joke. Sad.

I thought this was already confirmed as fake though?

>>30076089

Yes, Putin has pinky swore that this is fake.

>>30076089

Yes. The CIA bought a bunch of fake Russian planes and helicopters, built a base in Syria and blew it up to make Russia look bad.

>>30074545
I don't get why /k/ has been overflowed with neocons lately, sure /pol/ has always been around, but it's getting ridiculous.
Praising fucking extremist towelheads so long as the Ruskies are somehow negatively affected? What the fuck is wrong with you niggers.

>>30076222
You have an interesting way of interpreting laughing at Russia for letting it happen.

>>30076072
>Israel can't even build a tank that measures up to Japan or South Korea's most modern MBT.

Funny thing, neither can Russia.

>>30076135
The sad part is that what you said is actually plausible.

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>>30076312

Slavaboo please. The CIA doesn't need to fake shit to embarrass Russia. Russia is kind enough to do for the CIA these days.

>>30076274
I'm more just hoping that ISIS release a documentary with their customary high production values, and that somebody goes on to do a fan-edit of it minus the seven hours of snackbarring, so that I can see a modern version of an airfield raid by the SAS "Originals" in the western desert in WW2.

>>30076335
You know the CIA has done more outrageous things in the past, right?

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>>30076289

But IDF soldiers are the only ones that come pre-pissed on.

>>30076357

And Russia hasn't?

http://www.rferl.org/content/russias-internet-defense-league-a-grassroots-initiative-created-by-the-government/24649221.html

>>30075994
nice image

>>30076274
>>30076222
Nah, its true. This place is flooded with "nationalists" who couldnt tell you shit about the culture they're so zealous for.

ISIS isn't capable of beating the kurds, much less an actual military force.

>>30076222

Syria is 73% Sunni. They are ruled by a very minority subset dictator Shia. There is no vote or freedom.

Russia has influence with Assad and doesn't want it to end. America is not always right, Russia isn't always right (even more rarely right, but my opinion could be jaded) but in this case the only way for the Middle East to settle down is to quit forcing a ruling class on a region that does not reflect the region.

Iran King Shia. Causing trouble in every area that is majority Sunni
Saudi Arabia King Sunni. Causing trouble in every area that is pro Shia

Syria should go Sunni. Irag should split as it is mainly Sunni but currently under Shia rule.

Doesn't take a Neocon to see the issues, probably no really good answer but letting dictator that do not represent the majority in an area and religion (islam) that does not tolerate anyone outside of their sect, is not a great idea for peace and prosperity.

>>30076390
>>30076222
Plus it's summer time

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>>30076222
It's schadenfreude. We have /pol/ full of contrarian neckbeards and vatniks who constantly spill over to /k/ posting blatant pro russian propaganda, shit talks every other nation, shills and shitposts.
It's always a joy to see the latest failings of russia and how the vatniks and shillbots scramble to think up ever more deranged conspiracy theories and falsifications to prove that Slava Rossiya did nothing wrong, that it was merely homonazi jews from CIA who slander and photoshop to sling dirt at glorious dear leader Putin.

>>30076409

Yeah. I fucking hated how slavaboos and vatniks ruined clank threads with images of dead Ukrainians.

>>30076312
>sneaking an entire FOBs worth of trucks, helicopters and planes into hostile territory and blowing it up
Photoshop would be easier brah.
This particular base of the russians did get legit roasted though. Everyone has satellites these days, the burned base is exposed for all to see, which is why Kreml is trying to pass it off as an accident.
The sad part is that russia accidentally their whole base is actually plausible.

>>30076409
This.

Fuck russians.

>>30076398
are you suggesting that we balkanize the arabs?

>>30076072
>Canceled the Tavor
Tavor was fine, they just decided to do what the US Army did with the M16, switch to carbines

>>30076534
It totally worked well with the Balakans, lets give it another go :^)

>>30076534
>>30076569

Well, what exists now isn't working so yes. If people A will bomb and kill people B and have done so for 100s of years, why are we still trying to make them live together.

Balkanization is dividing hostile groups not doing it is letting them live in the same neighborhoods.

Neither is a great solution but extermination isn't practical.

Balkanization with some supervision will at least empower small geographic areas to report dissidents and help identify the problem instead of half the population supporting each of the combatants.

>>30075001
The landing strip looks clean. Not a hole made by artillery. Did they use RPG?

>>30075027
all that thing needs is a little crown molding work and good as new.

>>30076883
It'll buff out.

>>30075072
Russia vs IDF?

Oh my god, Israel would so mop up their asses. I'm not even kidding.

>>30076928
I agree with you, right up until it would go nuclear.

Still wouldn't be a good time for the Russians.

>>30076980
That wouldn't happen. Not only is Israel nuclear but so are the burgers.

MAD would assure no Russia

>>30077041
>MAD would assure no Russia
MAD would assure no anybody, fucking retard.

>>30076361
>Photoshoped by troglodytes

>>30077092
We're post MAD now
We're in the MADDER era
Mutually
Assured
Double
Destruction
Except
Russia

>>30077092
>implying burger is wipe-outtable

you may hit a few cities but we are going to survive that shit no problem. thanks THAAD!

i mean shiiieeeet in 10 years we would probably be back higher and moving with vengeance after a nuclear fucking war

and besides, we would just end it all the moment it happened. We would nuke all of our enemies just to get the shit over with. North Korea, Russia, China, middle east. Either way it wouldn't be fun for anybody over there.

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So this is US State Department Psy-Ops?

ISIS would be bragging all over this shit.

>>30077226
They did. But like I said, no homage-to-SAS-Originals nicely shot raid video yet. I wait in hope.

>>30077092
I'm so sorry sir. I did not mean to jimmy your rustles.
I used the term to make a point without typing a bunch more shit.
Again, I do apologize for my laziness you stupid piece of shit.

>>30077226
if we did do it off the record, then this shit is gold

My sources inform me the attack was carried out by a YouTube Social Experiments channel. Next week we should see a video called "Russian Airbase Prank [2016]" containing footage of the mission.

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>Degraded photos showing scorched marks on earth
>No spotter footage
>No ISIS bragging
Im not a vatnik but this smells like shit

Ruskies could have pulled their shit out and blew the base to shit to make it look like they got hit

>>30074636
Toppest of keks.
Keks for days.

>>30075000
uh, yeah you can stop now

>>30077041
>>30076928
>>30076980

I hate to break it to you, but your Jewish boyfriends wouldn't last half as long as Iraq did to the US in 2003. The IDF has been a police force fighting poorly equipped insurgents and still get their asses kicked by the likes of Hezbollah and Hamas. The IDF can't even adopt a camo uniform or a standard rifle. The Merkava hasn't ever seen combat against a tank and has been proven ineffective against last generation ATGMs. Sad.

Durr the Ruskies lost a few choppers, they have shit tier military, 'MERICA. We lost a pile of equipment in Iraq and Afghanistan. Nobody is untouchable, shit happens. The Russian military isn't so hard up for cash that they can't replace a few choppers and support vehicles.

>>30077604
I got news for you; poorly equipped insurgents (terrorist) kicked the fuck out of the USA too.
It's hard to fight a gorilla war senpia

>>30077875

Then the IDF has nothing going for it other than some fanboys and nation level welfare from the US.

>>30077901
hmmmm ...

don't know if no history study or just retarded

>>30074545
well The West has been flooding the ME with free money, weapons and training for the last 75 years or so, so its not like they dont have access to plenty of shit to shoot at things with

>>30077931
>no history study

Beating some sand niggers 40 years ago does not mean Israel can defeat Russia. Not even slavaboo.

>>30077931

Explain what advantages the IDF has over Russia that would lead to victory.

>>30077975
Ah my little friend, the last time Russia underestimated Israel, they got their asses handed to them.

>>30077998
I'm bretty sure you can Google that yourself.

>>30074545
>Believing American imperialist CNN
You make me laugh anon.

>>30078037

Google states Israel has less manpower, weapons, equipment, fuel reserves, naval assets, aircraft, ground vehicles, combat experience, nuclear weapons and delivery methods than the Russian Federation. Explain how Israel can defeat Russia?

>>30078011
>the last time Russia underestimated Israel, they got their asses handed to them.
What the fuck are you implying?

>>30078110

He's implying proxy wars during the cold war means Israel can defeat the Russian Federation.

>>30078037
If the Russians launched a large scale offensive into Israel they would fuck the IDF up. They would cover their advancing armor with S-400s and Israeli ground forces would get butt fucked in the absence of air support.

>>30078073
They call their cousins in Russia and tell them to shut it down.

>>30078170

Not an argument.

>>30077509
>no isis Bragging

Yea this one makes it sound like it's not real.

>>30078126
If the Russians launched a lar

are you fuckin retarded?

>>30078307
>If the Russians launched a lar
>are you fuckin retarded?

This is coming from the guy who can't even complete a sentence.

>>30078350
yeah,

I guess school is out

>>30074545

never happened

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>>30078389
>l-lies!
>russia stronk!
>proofs? proofs?? western jew media not proofs!
>NO PROOFS!!!!11
Vatniks, when will they ever learn?

>>30078579

fatnik, when will (you) learn?

>>30078073
>combat experience

You got me until this part. How many wars has Russia fought against an opponent with relative parity since WWII? The Israelis, meanwhile, have had good results in most of their campaigns and some particularly brilliant successes as well. Their military is in a state of constant readiness, and they have an excellent domestic defense industry despite being a tiny country.

Also, you are conveniently forgetting that wars are not a spreadsheet comparison simulator and that, particularly if you are the invading party, a material advantage is a precondition of victory rather than a guarantee of victory. Israel could conceivably win a conventional conflict even without the United States if it focused on an attritional policy where it deliberately avoids doing stupid shit like fighting the world's largest nation in pitched battles with high casualty numbers. If even the USSR--Russia at the height of its power--was unable to defeat a weaker opponent like the Afghans, what makes you think that the weaker Russian Federation would be able to defeat a more militarily capable and influential country like Israel? Consider for a moment that they had to fight a bunch of nobodies like the Chechens twice in order to actually claim victory.

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>>30078676
The first reports came from Stratfor, a company that literary lives on providing info does not benefit from pushing lies, especially not ones so easily dismissed as a simple sat photo.

You vatniks on the other hand have nothing but your "L-lies, russia stronk!!!11" posting to fall back upon.
A sat photo of an unroasted base would help. Too bad for you that no such thing exists since stupid fucking russians are so bad at war that their FOB gets toasted by ISIS in a safe zone.

>>30078757
fatnik pls go

>>30078736
https://youtu.be/4Byfd-Mrp78

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>>30078757
>A sat photo of an unroasted base would help. Too bad for you that no such thing exists
Are you seriously asking people on 4chan for up to date satellite images of a war zone?

Vatniks and Fatniks are both retarded when the only evidence (proofs) is an image from stratfor of all people.

>>30078579
It did happen, but that base is SYRIAN, not Russian.

Syria has Mig-25 Foxbat and Mi-24. Russia doesn't have a single Mig-25 in Syria.

>>30078801
Did I trigger you? Do you feel considerable pain of the anus?
Go to /pol/ and suck some Putin cock with the rest of the slavboos.

>>30078831
The alternative is that Stratfor published photoshopped images in the report and as such fooled several major western news agencies.
It would be in russias interest to simply show that the report was falsified and thereby embarrass all several news agencies and show that Stratfor is not trustworthy, a major propaganda victory for russia.
Why do you think they haven seized that opportunity?
Because their base was blown up for real. That's why they're pushing the accident story instead.
Given the quality of satellite imagery that is available today to every major nation, there is no chance Stratfor would blow what reputation they have on such an easily disproven lie.

>>30078853
Western intelligence has pegged that base as a major russian FOB for some time.
The nationality of the wrecked choppers and trucks is impossible to tell though.

>>30078931
You guys are probably confusing some rumors that Russia was building a base inside Palmyra ruins. Actually those tents are for archaeological specialists and some other tents were for a concert that took place there, it wasn't a base.

https://www.rt.com/news/343356-military-base-palmyra-ap/

>>30079124
No one claims that it was a new palmyra base that got struck, that deal was Finland acting up over russian tents IIRC.
This was a very real base and very real choppers got burnt.

>>30078861

>muh /pol/ boogeyman

go to reddit any time, fatnik

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>>30074545
>>30074707
>trucks parked in the middle of the road for months in the same exact spot that got "blown up"
>planes in in same place in the middle of the runway where "it was blown up"

I heard of the CIA budget cut, I just didn't think that they are so poor now that they can only hire highschoolers Photoshop shit for them to shit post

>>30079158
The important part is that no precious Russian lives were lost. Machinery we build new one, but life is only once.

>>30079176
I would gladly get a reddit account if it meant you vatniks fucked off back to vkontakte or wherever the fuck you stage your raids from.

>>30079183
Those pictures are only few hours apart. Don't trust those dates.

>>30079187
>precious Russian lives
Has no one ever in recorded history said.
That being said, I still hope everyone got away safe, not even russians deserve to die in these endless dusthole wars.

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>>30076390
Spoken like a true cuck jew

>>30079189

t. paranoid schizo

take your meds, fatnik

>>30079238
Just overdose on krokodil already, vatnik.
Before you do that though, provide some counter evidence regarding you having your base BTFO by sand people.

>>30076222
>Praising fucking extremist towelheads so long as the Ruskies are somehow negatively affected?

When Russians and sand niggers kill each other, everyone else in the world benefits.

>>30079277
>provide counter evidence to no evidence
seriously, fatnik?
>krokodil
nice meme

>>30077604
I'm really wondering where this Pro-Russia anti-Israeli butthurt is coming. It's a new combination for me.

>>30079341
>>30079377

oy vey

>>30079345
>seriously
Yes seriously. The Stratfor report is right there, debunk it.

>meme
russia, homeland of krokodil and AIDS.

>>30079401

Proofs?

>>30074780
>Militaries section off and reinforce assets to prevent major loss by mishap.
Anon we're talking about Russia here.

>>30075299
>Urban Mechs

Don't talk shit about Urbies. Suckers pack a damn AC20 on 'em

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>>30079420
>Proofs
Russia, literary nigger tier in HIV

>>30079447
Not really.

>>30079463
Yes really
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russian-hiv-cases-reach-record-high-of-over-a-million-a6828816.html

>>30079472

but not really

>>30079478
But really. Cannot find such rates of HIV outside of nigger countries.

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>>30079472
>>30079478
>>30079501
even in estonia, its the russians

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>>30079514

>>30079521
>>30079514
>>30079501

But the real question is, do russians get HIV from shared krokodil needles or all the gay sex/rape that they practice?

>>30079514
>>30079521
>>30079501

t. butthurt belt

>A media outlet affiliated with ISIS claims
>Afilliated with ISIS
>ISIS
>>""""""claims""""'"

*photoshopping intensifies*

>>30079183
>may 14
>may 17
>months

>>30079568
ISIS claimed
Stratfor verified
Vatniks raged

>>30079542
When vatniks fall back on the short form "fatnik" or "butthurt belt" replies you know for certain that you have them reeling in rage due to lack of effective bants and material on their part.

>>30079592
"claimed"
"verified"
"raged"

>ISIS claims they did something
>wow fuck russia obviously it's true lol
Wow you faggots are just pathetic. Anything claimed that fits your desired narrative must be true!

>>30079611

keep telling yourself that

>>30079747
>>30079738
Unless Stratfor photoshopped the images, then a base got hit hard.

>>30079782

stratfor editor detected

>>30079780
No, it's like a clockwork. When you turn the proofs carousel on the vatniks or rek them soundly with bants you'll get one sentence replies containing words such as Fatnik, butthurt belt and such, every single time. That means the vatnik is out of bants and wits.

>>30079798
No, you have to have SOME shred of evidence if you're gonna claim that a report like that is faked.
Pony up or shut up as they say.

>>30079377
>russians
>not blaming the jews
It's a celebrated tradition over there

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>>30079377
>>30079839
stalin says hello

>>30079898
You'd think russians would look less fondly on a man who killed millions of their citizens but it seems eastern slavs just crave abuse.

>>30078213
Last time ISIS bragged about killing downed russian pilots russians started dropping Willy Pete on their stuff

>>30078757
>A sat photo of an unroasted base would help. Too bad for you that no such thing exists

Not him, but why wouldn't pre-attack satelitte imagery exist? Was it a brand new base?

>>30076928
>>30076980
>>30077041
Daily reminder the IDF got humiliated in 2006 by a couple hundred hezzies- and that was with overwhelming men and material superiority on their side. Considering these are the same guys that were sustaining insane rates of attrition unless they got their hands held by the Russians there is no way other than pure yid fanboyism one can imagine the juice are better than those rooskies.
>>30077168
>shiiieeeet
you revealed yourself you shvartze fuck. There won't be any THAAD where you live in.

>>30079824
Keep telling yourself that.

>>30079835
No, you have to have SOME shred of evidence if you're gonna claim that a report like that is real.
Pony up or shut up as they say.

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>>30080005

It's on google earth dating back to 2003.

>>30079930
>You'd think russians would look less fondly on a man who killed millions of their citizens but it seems eastern slavs just crave abuse.
The most admired leaders almost invariably got thousands of their people killed at least.
>>30079532
>But the real question is, do russians get HIV from shared krokodil needles or all the gay sex/rape that they practice?
If by absolute number and across all ethnicities covered by the word Russian, needles. Central Asian peoples love their hard drugs a lot- its like vodka for them, a form of social bonding activity.
If you mean ethnic Russians its a lot closer to those you find in the West- unprotected M2M, followed by heterosexual and then needle sharing.

Is this story going to be forgotten just as the story of russian cruise missiles accidentally hitting iran?

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All the dugouts and shit are pretty typical right?

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Deir+ez-Zur,+Syria/@34.5290811,37.6422507,1186m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x154817f4aeddb761:0x4cbc9d58e981374f!8m2!3d35.3296518!4d40.1350341

>>30074734
The POTUS doesn't want ISIS to be seen as an actual threat, so it's within his interest to make it seem like it was a mistake.

>>30080202

same bullshit

it's interesting there's no ISIS videos about this, you'd think this is a fantastic propaganda ammo for them

>>30080035
Given how Gaza went down recent, Israel clearly got its shit back together.

>>30080202
Yeah, media farts released for no other purpose than spoiling the air tend to dissipate pretty quick.

>>30079439
Very Russian.

>>30080192
>The most admired leaders almost invariably got thousands of their people killed at least.

*millions

>>30080508
>Given how Gaza went down recent, Israel clearly got its shit back together.
Different dune coons.

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These strikes look like precision strikes with guided missiles/munitions. The fact that ISIS didn't provide any of the usual (piss weak) propaganda just shows that something is very fishy about this. I'm willing to bet this was a black op by either the USA or Israel and they put the blame on ISIS to get away with it.

>>30080756

>implying it happened

>>30080781
If it didn't happen: even more to think about.
If it did happen: I'm sure it wasn't ISIS.

And your point is?

>>30080756
>if you shoot a man from the front it's good aim
>if you shoot him from behind it's good sense

>>30075072
Remember when Israel was a babby and everyone thought they could anally fuck it
How well did that go?

God, the Russian military is such a shit fest.

>>30081317
(you)

>>30080048
The burden of proof is on you bud. You vatniks have no other fallback than "L-lies! Russia stronk! NO proofs!" this time. Stratfor has the satellite imagery, russia has not been able to discredit the report.

>>30081441
proofs?

Is there ANYTHING pointing towards Stratfor lying here?
Genuinely curious. Is there any official russian statements or any RT links on the matter?

>>30081451
https://www.stratfor.com/analysis/discerning-damage-crucial-syrian-air-base

>>30081497

It's bullshit so nobody really cares.

>>30081521
404 not found

>>30081525
>bullshit
The russian claims or the Stratfor report? How can one tell?

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>>30081545

You can stop making shit up, vanik. Russia can't even defend itself from ground attack. Sad!

>>30081564

CIA bought all those vehicles from Ukraine and staged the whole thing. Its the only way this could happen.

>>30081451
Is Stratfor blocked in some countries?
If the URL doesn't work for you searching for "Discerning Damage to a Crucial Syrian Air Base" on Stratfor will get you the page as the first result.

>>30074545
They got their air base rocketed.

>>30081577
>regularly $349 a year
fuck off, shill.

>>30076409
so much fuking this !
nailed it

>>30081582
The problem is that it took place on a very real Syrian base.
https://www.google.se/maps/@34.5276677,37.64213,815m/data=!3m1!1e3?
How and where did CIA create a picture perfect base replica?
It would probably be easier to just roll over there and bomb the base with a stealth bomber.

>>30081600
Given the lack of cratering, some kind of air bursting or cluster munition must have been used.
ISIS has access to former Ba'ath artillery officers so they do have the knowhow, but the question is what they used.

>>30081617
There is an insane amount of revetments dug on that base, had the russians actually used some, many Putin-shekels could have been saved, both on helicopters and paid shilling.

>>30081638
>Given the lack of cratering

The impact craters from common Grad rockets are quite shallow. The air base will be on hardpan, I would not expect deep craters.

I think it is more likely that the damage was initially moderate, then the fires were not combatted properly.

>>30081577
proofs?

>>30081682
proofs?

>>30081674
Possible but some kind of cratering on the sand would surely be visible?
The Egyptians manufacture Sakr-36 cluster rockets for the Grads, cant entirely rule out that ISIS got their hands on some sort of cluster munitions and used them to good effect.

ITT: stratfor employees

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>>30081682
>>30081689
No proofposting pls.

>>30081704
kek'd

>>30081704
Nah, we just love the overdrive putin whipped his web brigades into to cover up this monumental fuckup.

>>30081704

t. Butthurt vatnik in denial over photo evidence.

>>30076361
DELETE THIS

I kind of wonder what kind of proofs the vatniks would need to accept that this happened?
Time stamped videos of someone walking among the burning wrecks?
That Dear and Glorious leader Putin admits it on live stream?

>>30081722
>>30081730

found two

>>30074545
Is that suppose to be an aerial photo of it?

looks like a tiny ass model.

>>30076361
>ancient shoops

Man, I remember back when this was first posted and the shitstorm it caused. Those were the days.

>>30074707
Those blast marks are too accurate for sand people.

>>30081769
I suppose you file under the >>30081730 category then?

>>30081786
>Is that suppose to be an aerial photo of it?

Nope, satellite image.

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>>30076409
This nigger gets it.

>>30078073
>Explain how Israel can defeat Russia?

It's easy. They just call America to come kick Russia's ass for them, and America drags NATO along with them.

>>30074707
Unless ISIS has access to laser-guided munitions there's no way they accurately hit every piece of hardware in that picture without fucking up the rest of the airfield.

>>30081854
What about cluster rockets? They leave only minor scarring on the ground but would cover the entire area struck.

>>30081854
Maybe some turkish covert ops revenging the downed kobra?

>A U.S. defense official told CNN that it appeared to be an accident that caused a chain reaction of explosions and not the result of enemy action.
ITT: vatniks and strapped4(cash) BTFO.
The fuck would you even doubt the official statement they have like sattelites that can count your nose hairs if you so much as point your head in the sky.

>>30081864
And where did they get them? ISIS are idiots who would use their best weapons on the first targets that presented a bit more resistance than usual. They sacrifice their BMP's against regular patrols as VBIEDs for fucks sake...

Well. My hunch seems to be supported by this.

I think "ISIS" did it. But I think someone else...smarter, better experienced, and with lots of money, lead them to do it. Probably by training and "accidentally" leaving weapons around capable of the attack.


OR

Someone infiltrated ISIS, or posed as ISIS (posed as ISIS but made sure real ISIS thought they were with them.) and brought their own toys.

And quite honestly I wouldn't be surprised if it was the U.S., but something tells me it was not. It was someone closer to the area like the Saudis or Israel.

And what makes me think this is, the U.S. just passed a bill allowing people who were victims of terrorism or even families of soldiers to sue Saudi Arabia, or any Middle Eastern country deemed guilty of causing 'Merican citizens pain.

So, I mean, who do you think Russia would assume did this? Yep. The U.S.

>>30081888
>Well. My hunch seems to be supported by this.
>I think "ISIS" did it. But I think someone else...smarter, better experienced, and with lots of money, lead them to do it. Probably by training and "accidentally" leaving weapons around capable of the attack.
You mean Turkey?

>>30081897
Yeah, or Turkey.

I just feel like the decision to let U.S. citizens to sue Turkey, Saudi Arabia, technically Israel, etc. played into this.

>>30081897
Did you even read the whole thing?

>>30081929
Yes, and?

Are we even sure those Hips and Hinds are Russian in the first place?
There's no visible insignias of the sort on any of the aircraft in the before and after photos, and these aircraft are also used by the Syrians along with the trucks that were donated.
Plus there is a rather noticeable lack of Russian air support since last month and it only meant they pulled back some more of their aircraft.
Helo support in particular have been rather sparse in that area- unlike when recapturing Palmyra when they were flying round the clock almost and chasing down routing ISIS in the desert.
Also, Syrian Foxbat(they are the only ones with it in the country) in the tarmac- definitely means the Syrians are present there.
If it was only Syrian assets there when the base got BTFO it definitely makes it more plausible that state actors are behind this since Assad can't really mount any effective reply.

>>30081879
>And where did they get them?
Egypt manufactures cluster grad rockets, maybe Israel provided some, maybe they looted some Uragan rockets locally or they just got their hands on some regular cluster artillery shells.
There are a lot of actors in that area who has access to cluster munitions and would love to see russians burn.
Just plant an idea in ISIS then "lose" some weapons.

>>30081969
>Are we even sure those Hips and Hinds are Russian in the first place?
Not vatnik approved proofs but there are some evidence.
https://citeam.org/russian-helicopters-indeed-were-at-the-damaged-syrian-airbase/

>>30081972
Cluster submunition Grads, (and Uragans/Smerch more so) have pretty wide areas of dispersion and have a pattern of spread showing which direction they came from.

>>30082001
Can you see that from satellite imagery? Each individual crater is tiny.

Seems rather fishy, There isnt even a single ISIS youtube video about it

>>30076617
Well, it will help stabilize the tegion but them again, there's goig to be that one (Or few) faggot nation(s) that want a few extra centimeters of soil or their claimed holy place back.

If you look at the top of the hardened shelter you can see there was a fire inside from the ventilation throwing carbon on the roof. My guess is some asshole was smoking, started a fire next to some munitions and before the Russians got enough extinguishers going it cooked off.

>>30081638
ISIS got lucky with a random GRAD or mortar strike that caused a chain reaction when it hit some fuel or ammo trucks parked too close together.

That's my assumption.

>>30074869
it say a LOT about how the pentagon believes most americans view russia and russians

>"so how are we going to spin this..."

>"just tell them that Ivan was drunk and destroyed the whole base F-Troop style"

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>>30074545
Russia and Syria would rather put the blames on the rebels than ISIS.

Rebels are more of a threat to Syria in the long run than ISIS are.

The Rebels (FSA in paticular) are focused more changing Syria and it's constitution than they are about forming a caliphate.

ISIS can be BTFO and that'll be the end of them, however FSA and the rebels is more of a "movement" that many (underprivileged and religious Syrians) seem to sympathize with.

This is why Russia's air-force has focused more on attacking rebels than they have FSA.

>>30077154
double secret destruction

>>30078757
>The first reports came from Stratfor, a company that literary lives on providing info does not benefit from pushing lies

stratfor is literally the blackops division of the cia

>>30082137
>that many (underprivileged and religious Syrians) seem to sympathize with.
>and religious Syrians

Yeah, they hate it when the government tells them to stop honor killing and trading their daughters away.
Poor Muslims.

>>30082324
>blackops division of the cia
>stratfor
nigger pls
They are a wannabe intelligence agency, somewhat lacking in intelligence themselves, getting hacked and all.
Still, neither CIA nor Stratfor would publish such a report that could be dismissed by a simple fucking satellite photo. That is more a russian approach what with the faked MH17 satellite footage and all.
Right now the world is laughing at the russians for being incompetent. Russia could urn this to their advantage by showing the unburnt base thereby getting some cold hard proofs of western lies.
Why don't they you might ask?
Because the west is not lying, the russian base got roasted for real, by ISIS or russian incompetence.

>>30074585
>>30074636
>>30075000
/k/ died when this propaganda became a propaganda board.

I remember that time before the whole 8 chan ordeal when /k/ was about firearms and military regardless of origin.

>>30082137
>Rebels
>Moderate
Pick one

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>>30082329
As much as I hate dictators such as Assad - I'm not sure that Syria (and majority of it's citizens) are better off under his rule?

I mean, from what I've read, he literally just suppresses any opposition - not sure what else he does that would be considered bad or worse than it would under a FSA-type government running Syria?

Could you perhaps explain what the biggest problem the ("moderate'') rebels/opposition have living under Assad?

Economics? Social issues?

Not quite sure as everything on the net seems like propaganda (from both sides).

>>30082468
>Cut the head off the hydra and two more will grow

>>30082525
>and those two heads may or may not end up biting the shit out of eachother
>we'll still put them on the same "side" on the Wikipedia page

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>>30074545
No russia didnt, stratfor faked the images. The left two helis in the the before image are obvious copypasta

>>30082438
>firearms and military regardless of origin
The threads discussing AKs are all fine and dandy, everyone still likes the nugget and soviet milsurp.

Things like
>>30074796
>>30075994
>>30076089
>>30079183
>>30080048
is why everyone hates russians around here. They shitpost and actively try to lower the debate into insults and PROOFS? posting instead of trying to provide info supporting their claims, thereby shutting down any kind of debate that reflects negatively on russia.
Russians on /k/ brought this on themselves by being obnoxious pests.

>>30082456
rebels are the least-likely to cut off someone's head if they convert. They are the most accepting of other religions.

They are the most moderate. Sorry if your Putinvision says otherwise.

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>>30082525
>>30082553

I get that.

Other than that what are legitimate concerns/complaints that the opposition have with Assad though?

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>>30074636

>>30082564
As far as proofs go, that's pretty weak.
Still better than any other nay-sayer in this thread.
Other than the two helicopters having their rotor blades in the same position, there is nothing pointing towards there being any copypasta. They are the same type of chopper, of course they look similar on satellite photo.

>>30082576
russians and serbs resort to the same tactics, they are scum

>>30082658
You can add Americans to that list.

>>30082663
Russian and Serb shitposters are by far worse than Americucks.

>>30082679
True, but Americans are pretty bad too.

>>30080044
>calls out vatniks on using pre canned one line replies when rekt
>gets pre canned one line reply
Poetic.

>>30082642
It's very likely Stratfor just added one extra chopper (or covered the real one with a copy/paste) to see who was using their images as source vs. who provided their own photos. Very common to honeypot shit like this in the information age. See "Trail Your Coat" in the Stratfor glossary (available on wikileaks) for one possible use case.

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>>30082642
it isnt just the same rotors, the heli fuselage is at the same angle too

if you do a jpeg errors analysis there are signs of digital editing all over the heli's as well, but that is way over the heads of most channers

that photo is definitely a fake. and if that one is, they probably all are. it isnt like stratfor has a reputation for reliability or honesty. they're more like a punchline

>>30082682
Americucks are egotistical cancerfags but they don't hold a candle to slavshits

>>30082707

Have you seen the amount of shitposting that kicks up whenever you make some even slightly anti-American post on the site? It's absurd.

>>30082700
they changed a major element that was substantive to their claim,

if they were doing a honeypot they would have changed something trivial(eg the stacks of equipment on the runway)

>>30082721
and it doesnt even hold a candle to the filthy russhits and serbtrash that post here every single day with their cancer

>>30082740

Maybe in quality (or lack thereof), but quantity-wise the americans are the worst.

>>30082721
It's pretty much like kicking a hornets nest but they post coherent arguments and will try to post sources if prompted enough.
With russians you get insults, them parroting your exact post and PROOFS?, russians take the debate as low as it will possibly go.

>>30082747
Nope, everyone of those anti american threads is guaranteed to have russhit shitposters

>>30082750

And every thread ever is going to have Burgerese shitposters.

>>30082756
not necessarily, and you're only proving me right that russhits are shitposters lad

>>30082770
I never denied that though?

>>30082731
closeups wouldn't show those stacks and they wouldn't grasp the attention of someone with a "correct photo"

Having one extra helicopter would cause someone to jump and say "Wait, they added something!" (as exactly what happened)

Just altering the helicopters is something a little more subtle, but it'll certainly appear in a close-up shot (because the other person WILL have a shot of the helicopters, as they are a gross area of interest)

>>30082721
>>30082747
>>30082756
>assblasted RIDF

>>30082701
Do you know how image analysis works? That picture shows that no editing has taken place on the choppers themselves.
The angle on the alleged pasted chopper is slightly off and if you look at the original pictures you see that the pixels are different.
The pixel hunting game is about as old as 4chan, hunting for shoops.

>>30082731
No major element was changed.

>>30082782
Not everyone who dislikes american shitposters is RIDF, love.

>>30075072
>slavs kiling jews and vice versa

A man can dream....

>>30082701
The error level on the helicopters is the same as the one on the side of the runway.
How nice of you to disprove your own point.

>>30082694
Keep telling yourself that.

>>30082844
>>30082786
an unedited image should show uniform error levels throughout, the after image is what an unedited image looks like

a composted image will show varying error levels, the way the helicopters dont match the surrounding shows that they were copied from some other source

>>30082777
if they wanted to appear to be a legitimate analyst they wouldnt edit their images at all, because copy and pasted helicopters in an image that was trying to show the helicopters were there at all, has a tendency to make people suspicious that they're full of shit

>>30082912
so the error analysis tells a consistent story

>stratfor had an image of a runway with wreckage

>they took an image with a clean runway and copy and pasted helicopters from another image

>but their other image only had 3 mi-24s and they had 4 blast marks

>so they copied one of the helis twice

>>30079447
>Murricans turn Russia into a shithole
>wonder why people are too poor/uneducated to ise protection

American mental gymnastics, everyone.

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Can't we just nuke the region and be done with it?

>>30081638
DPICM? Did the USSR even export any/did Russia export any to Syria?

>>30082701
>the heli fuselage is at the same angle too

Get your eyes checked.

>>30082468
>>30082588
Assad is literally the Syrian equivalent of Ataturk.
Sure, he's a dictator, but he's a secular dictator who improves the living standard of his people and prevents rampant fundamentalism from taking over.

>>30083119
>Russians turn Russia into a shithole
>blame Murrica

>>30083503
>CIA hasn't funded dissents at all
>Despite openly admitting doing so
Ok, Bob.

>>30083018
>image analysis shows it is unedited
>ITS EDITED! STRATFOR IS JUST REALLY GOOD AT IT!!!

>>30083517
>I don't have to show evidence, all I need to do is say CIA

>>30074707
These blastmarks are too accurate for sand people.

>>30082791
By the same measure not everyone who dislikes Russia is American.

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>>30083544
>muh proofs
Slav, pls

>USSR was #1 enemy for US
>but they haven't used CIA to dissolve it it fell apart itself ))))))))))))

>>30076089
It hasn't been confirmed as true.

RuUpdater, Mandic, and PDR all said it is the result of a gas explosion on the base.

But the helicopters were fake. They proved it based upon the number of rotor blades.

>>30076222
It's summer and /k/ is jingoist.

>>30083529
>try
>image analysis shows it is edited
>QED: it is edited
>stratfor is not good at it

>>30078922
>That's why they're pushing the accident story instead.

The day of the explosion was May 14th and the SAA sources were claiming a gas explosion occured on the T-4 base.
ISIS has always been many miles away since the liberation of Palmyra. So ISIS could not have possibly done this.

So the SAA aren't "pushing" anything. It's literally what happened.

>>30083405
honest question: are you retarded?

>>30080202
Yep

>>30083488
Just want to know the legitimate reason many wanted to overthrow him - other than the fact that they're Sunni and he's an Alawite.

Were everyone given equal rights under his ruling?

Were certain secs discriminated against or barred from certain rights?