Gear Queer Thread

>>30060466

Used both. The MICH seems to run smaller than the "Fritz," btw. Ever since I got a modern retention system for my PASGT, I vastly prefer it to the MICH. I know that kevlar expires, but my helmets were made the same year.

So I asked in that plate carrier thread, but only got one response.

How well does vented padding work on a carrier? Is it noticable difference? That one response from that other thread mentioned they were uncomfortable.

It's the only thing holding me back from going for that 6094S ebay link that one anon kept posting.
I guess that and fingers crossed for some sort of sale for memorial day.

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>>30060491
I wore both. But only headband with pasgat. Those pads are nice. I want to buy some new straps, some that take the buckle off the left side of my face. Because it'd like a cheekweld on my rifle too.

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Like this? I've got a similar set up in my stt and I love it.

>>30060466
I thought most countries were parting with the MICH cut helmet? Leaning more towards OpsCore/Team Wendy style, at least for combat Corps.

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the first of the three chest rigs i bought showed up and i got two more pmags.

>>30060544
yea. I mean, I understand that these things are to be worn snug and no matter what, sweat will build up, but a lot of the ones with it + cummerbund tend to be more than $200.

I wish I can afford a Tyr Pico

>>30058571
On 1911 holsters:
I use a serpa cqc. The concern about the release contributing to an ND is not an issue IMO. The safety shouldn't be flipped until the gun is rotated up on draw and before you holster. Dirt fucking the release is another issue...

Brb shooting myself in the thigh.

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>>30060562
Even if they cut the ears off for a gunfighter cut, it's still a mich shell. There's other designs like the cyre airframe that special forces n' shit have. but those will take time to reach regular infantry

>>30060571
Yeah, after my padding my stt went from $200 to $280. Luckily I bought it 20% off, but still. Not the best bang for your buck

>>30060597
yea, I guess I'll just go for that 6094 that anon linked then.

Any experience with SOE mini chest rigs? They seem perfect for long treks where four mags is enough.

>>30060466
Helmets are a meme unless you are literally deploying from helicopters on a daily basis.

My headgear is a fucking BCM ball cap. If any of you fucks can genuinely trick yourselves into thinking you need a $300 helmet set up, you're fucking retarded.

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>>30060635
I don't like hitting my head on things.

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>>30060635
The primary usage for an infantryman's helmet is to protect against shrapnel and fragments.
You could though find use for a modern helmet, with its integrated night vision, earpro and comms. Pic related is what the FDF will replace its old helmets with.

>>30060647
>that SA58 Para
Why must I be poorfag?

>>30060650
No, it's because they ride in bumpy, cramped vehicles and hit their heads constantly

>>30060635
I have been head slammed into a wall before wearing a helmet....know what? I was glad I was wearing it. But fuck it if head wounds and loss of brain cells are your thing...all the power to you friend.

>>30060650


>muh neck

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Can anyone ID the make/model of this carrier? Going to take a wild guess that it's probably British...

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>>30060689
It's both, though vehicles play a much larger part in COIN operations, whilst artillery is a much greater threat in conventional warfare.

>>30060692
It's a bit high, yes. I guess that additional neck protection wasn't considered all that important, though you might be able to pull it down enough. Would have to get one on my head to be able to tell.

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>>30060650
>tfw have used that thing

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>>30060721
How is it? Have you used the old one as well? Can you cover your neck properly when SUOJAAN with the new one?

>>30060706
osprey.

>>30060647
How do you feel about the PIG velcro attachment system on the plate carrier + chestrig part?

>>30060650
those NVG look pretty fragile

an aluminum shell around some of that would probably help.

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>>30060731
>>30060692
Future armor is gonna have neck armor like this

There's already some armor out being tested by some european country but I don't feel like digging through 10,000 photos in my folder

>>30060533
>Secondary weapon is a T-50 caliber Stapler
cheeky bastards

>>30060647
What does all that shit weigh?

>>30060731
It sits on your head better than the old one and has pretty good adjustability, though the plastic adjusters are quite flimsy and break easily.
Its more firm on your head than the old one so it's not as easy to cover your neck but still plausable. Also the earpros are GOAT.

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>>30060635
>>30060689
>>30060690
>>30060692

>>30060707
>>30060763

I was going more for how much all that Gucci must weigh.

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>>30060773
>though the plastic adjusters are quite flimsy and break easily.
In the winter or summer? If those issues exist in summer, they'll be twice as worse in -40c.

>>30060778
Less or equal to the old helmet. The goodies are well balanced on the helmet for maximum comfiness. It's not an issue.

>>30060778
Better to have the neck armor weight on the shoulders instead of the head

>>30060763
What's the point in armor that stops your head from turning to the sides?

>>30060787
We tested them in summer and broke a few adjusters diving(syöksymällä). They were still prototypes at the moment.
The helmet is actually quite light. At least compared to the old one

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>>30060647

jacket looks comfy

>>30060812
Because being able to turn your head more than 5 degrees each side is a meme you simpleton.

>>30060763

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrFwI4eFhf0&index=13&list=PLllw4zFP7rK_FvP5_XhbxaHL6Mozats7Q

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>>30060822
>trying to shout orders whilst prone
>all people hear is a muffled voice thanks to your face being buried in kevlar

>>30060817
Sounds like something they'd fix. If your plastics break in the summer, they'll be fucking worthless come winter and the FDF really can't afford making such fuck-ups in acquisition.

>>30060647
So just get a bump cap or a 1990s skate helmet

>>30060854
So long as the ants underneath you know what's going on I don't see the issue.

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>>30060770
Less than this.

I don't know anything about bullet proof vest. Where can I order one online? Is there anywhere that has cheapish surplus? occasionally I have to deliver through a crappy part of town with lots of gunshots.I only make $10/hr so $600 for the ones i have seen is too much.

>>30060749
I don't think so, actually.

>>30060706
It looks like a first gen US IBA.

>>30060949
Finding a better or different job seems cheaper and a better investment.

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Who makes a combat shirt (pic related) that doesn't have ridiculously large sleeves?

It seems ones I've tried look like the sleeves are made for a 300 pound giant.

>>30060491
Expiration of Kevlar is notional. If it has just been setting around and taking no abuse it will last damn near your lifetime. However if you wear the same vest everyday for years and are constantly "operating operationally" the wear and tear of the fibers will reduce the vest's ability to protect you.

>>30060984
If your arms aren't as wide as tree trunks, you've failed.

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This is the future of Marine armour according to Bethesda

>>30061022
>how to make your troops hate R&D and acquisitions

>>30060689
You sound like you know what you are talking about. Were you army or marine corps ?

>>30061022
R&D?

>>30061114
research and development

>>30061088
Lolno, I'm a noguns shitposting teenager with a healthy disrespect for military people.
>Gay sausagefest
>government Welfare niggers
>expect respect, shoeshining, clapping, and Thank you for your service
>Implying killing random brown people and sandniggers is somehow good for our country
>80 iq
>Follow orders blindly instead of forming individual opinions
>Serving corrupt politicians and jews

I've heard from classmates that riding in a bradley or Abrams or even hmv is hot, uncomfortable, and miserable

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>>30061022
i just rock a plate carrier and a r91

>>30061176
Hahhahahahahahahhahahahahhahahah

>>30061198
It's just common sense to wear a helmet if you're going to be climbing in and out of metal doorways all day

>>30061187
That r91 mod is shit, get the weapons and Soviet packs,f fucking dragunov variants are sex

>>30061231
meh. i don't like having noncanon weapons that look brand new.

>>30061253
I'm a filthy console peasant so I'm waiting for Xbox mods to come. I'm hoping for a Weapon Pack dlc soon. I'd love to see the FO3 Assualt Rifle and Chinese Assualt Rifle.

>>30061227
Or if you are

>in an area where people are shooting at you
>in an area where explosive devices are common
>jumping from aircraft
>need a way to mount Night vision devices

By your reasoning it makes sense for the navy more so than anyone else.

>>30061187
SHould i buy Fallout 4, i mean i already have skyrim and fallout 3.

>>30061307
Sure, get the Season Pass though. Far Harbour alone is $30.

>>30061339
I was thinking about pirating it first though, see if i even like it, if i do, I'll buy it when it goes on sale.

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>>30060763
This Slav has some Gucci neck protection.

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>>30060466
IMO:

Wearing a helmet for gear queering doesn't make a ton of sense unless you're working in a job (.mil/LEO) where it's required, you're using NODs, or you're doing something like 4-wheeeling (in which case a DOT helmet is better than going tacticool).

Helmets, no matter how light they are, are still weight on your noggin and they are going to still cause a bit of sweat and make you look like *very special* operator.

Now, if you're a gear queer who is military/LEO, I'll tell ya that is pays to upgrade your suspension system if you're using an off-the-shelf ACH. The standard suspension sucks, especially with NODs. You need aftermarket stuff that doesn't get so loose. Speaking of NODs, making sure your NOD mount doesn't wiggle is also a biggie. Either get a wider NOD plate, or if you have a standard one, hunt around for the strap used on the detachable mounts and run it (something I'm in the process of doing for my second wallhanger helmet). When it comes to lights, I've been ussed boxes of fancy shit, but really nothing I've found beats a humble headlamp 550'd around the helmet. The clip on lights that get issued tend to hand low and are just waiting to snag on your sling or armor. The IR features on them are nifty, but never get used. If you need IR, you'll be using a dedicated strobe or your weapon floodlight anyway.

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Would swift clips on a 6094S work with my rig, the website I got the rig one doesn't specify. The rig has 6 clips, 2 on each side, and 2 on the top.

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>>30061363
An example of running 550 on a Petzl. As well running straps through a goggle setup as one might for a turret or somewhere with high dust storms.

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>>30061374
My headgear for gear queering though.

I ended up ith an arc teryx hoodie for now so i can wear it around the city without looking like an autism lord, was 150 so not bad really. I still cant get the idea of some patagonia level 5s. Anybody have a reliable source for a small reg level 5 for not 500? ON ebay i lost a beat to shit one by 1 dollar and some faggot got it for like 80 bucks because i was at work and couldnt outbid him. Are the level 5s really that great even? It just looks so nice. Also this will be my only post in this thread without a trip.

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>>30060689
that's why there's so much emphasis on ballistic protection, right?

>>30060949
bulletproofme dot com

>>30060568
That an SKS chest rig? I tried stuffing my PMAGs in mine but they were nigh-impossible to get in.

>>30061412
>Implying goatfuckers can hit the side of a barn with their chinksurp 7.62x39

>>30061470
They still get kills with enough regularity that it is worth protecting the soldiers with Level 4 plates.

>>30060650
>>30060690
Aaand exactly my point

Why not wear a bike helmet then? How often are you cutie being exposed to "shrapnel" at the fucking range?

>>30061384
Remove the button on top of the hat for comfort when wearing hearing protection.
Thank me later.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg4n-nNNOYg

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>>30061514
Surefire plugs. I hate muffs for anything short of a .50.

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still have a ops core base jump that I dont use that often.

>>30061527
I double up and use my muffs for SA

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>>30061545
I'm big on safety, but I think doubling up is overkill. Especially since I only shoot outdoors, rather than indoors.

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>>30061365
swift clips needs the top 2 to be the Male adapter.

>>30061563
what knife, light and pack.

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>>30061563
desu I shoot outdoors too, I just don't like fumbling with ear plugs all day. so I just leave them in and use the muffs as my hearing aids.

>>30060647
i've seen this picture a hundred times and only just noticed the core drill necklace

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>>30061599
Gerber Guardian, Surefire somethin', and ancient Hydrastorm pack.

>>30061638
I'll take new ones whenever I get more than a week off, until then I'm stuck with the pics on my laptop.

>>30060635
I have an issued helmet I don't wear while gear queering. I don't wear it because I'm not working from armored vehicles, I don't have comms or nods, and i don't want to break or lose some I'd have to pay for.

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>>30061187
That gun looks real FALmiliar. R8 my innawoods messing around in gear. IFAK is in my chest rig, I use the mes pouch for tactical snacks.

>>30060763
for CQB maybe, have fun shooting in the prone position though.

>>30061754
looks good to me man. that fal is fucking sex

>>30061525
nice grip pod, breivik

>>30061565
Could I just buy two sets and use all female?

>>30061769
>armored to the gills
>going prone in the first place
>not just hipfiring something belt fed into the middle distance yelling URAAAAA

>>30061865
no, you'll need one of the Male adapters from downrange gear. its near the bottom
http://www.downrangegear.net/DownRangeGear.html

>>30061753
How much are you going to bitch and moan when you have to use standardized gear innamilitary?

>>30061865
You need a vertical male buckle on the PC front. A molle strap and a male repair buckle can work but it will be wonky. Maybe you could put some male repair buckles on the same nylong loop as the top females but it might be tight and get in the way.

Problem is attaching/removing that rig while you are wearing it. Attaching the sides might be a real ball ache. Even with a micro rig it is a tad awkward.

If you are dedicated to running it as a PC mounted rig, then cut off the females, put on some males, then swap the shoulder strap males for females.

>>30061981
It will be endless once you go Gucci there is no going back.

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>>30061981
Not every unit makes you wear standard equipment.

Some actually encourage buying your own shit.

>>30060706
Its a damn IBA man

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>>30061981
>standardized gear
>canada
pick one.
worst case you get put into RCR's and have to use shitty stuff like the Assault vest.
if I get lucky I get into PPCLI and then there is no standard since guys use everything from 5.11, first spear, crye, LBT for carriers.

>>30060597
The gunfighter, at least the SOHAH Gunfighter is literally just a CVC shell with pads and a chin strap. They actually offer similar protection and are lighter then said airframes, fasts, or whatever latest gen helmets.

However most CVC shells were made when the USSR was still around, and I doubt they still have IIIa protection anymore.

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>>30060466
zsh a best

>>30061952
>>30061986
Cool, thanks guys

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>>30061307
>>30061187
>>30061357

pretty worth playing i'd say

that said, I basically have it modded it into STALKER: Cry of the Commonwealth (quadruple spawns zombie hell edition)

>>30060635
You say that, but if you were to run full pelt around a corner only to find a lowhanging pipe at eye level - a very sturdy pipe that not only stays perfectly still, but also keeps your your head in place as the rest of your body continues to travel forwards - allowing for half a backflip whereby you then smash the back of your skull into the concrete below. If you were to encounter such a situation, you may change your tune

>t. the guy that saw someone do exactly that at an airsoft game when he was 13

also:
>what are skateboard helmets
>what is this entire thread but needless purchases
If I'm in a position where I need a plate carrier, level 4 plates all around, 9 mags, an armoured battle belt, side arm, full camo, IFAK, medical backpack, etc etc, I'd probably want a helmet too as I'm evidently going into some serious shit.

everyone itt is a fag for buying wannabe commando outfits. fucking laughing my ass off

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>>30062569

>>30062412
mind linking a few of those mods lad?

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>>30061363
That helmet on the left is pretty cute famalam

Are there any South Ga/North Fl Gear Queers?

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>>30062251
sorry friendo

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>>30062602
Danke. It's my old deployment helmet, which I refuse to repaint. The green one is my funsies art project helmet.

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>>30062251
lel nice patch fa-m. let us know your a neckbeard special ops agent

>>30061753
fanny pack

>>30061374
fake SEAL patch. muh stolen valor

>>30060820
fake medic patch

>>30062027
jeeez that set looks uncomfortable.
>chestrig stripes going randomly over or under the plate
>bigass buttpack attached to mag pouch i wonder how much it flaps around
>show off face paint that is supposed to be "camo"

I wonder why people wear plates and chestrigs at the same time.

If u need armor then why not some low profile plate carrier like JPC? That way you spread the weight better and thin straps work ok with backpacks

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>>30062822
lemme take a wild guess based off the way your helmet is set up, force recon?

>>30060631
>soe
Enjoy waiting 3-4 months and don't email them asking about your order status or he'll cancel the order on you

>>30062926
The straps are actually pretty well fitted over the plates and the TAP was free.

The feeder pouch doesn't flap around when it has 400 rounds of linked 7.62 inside.

The facepaint is unit SOP. We know it's stupid, the joke got out of hand and SGM made it real. I'm the only one there who didn't paint his face dark green for the fucking desert.

>>30063013
You have your TAP in a chestrig layout. How is that? In terms of fit and sag on the front?

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When I joined the Army we had the PASGT helmet woodland camo, ALICE or LBV.

Now, the kraut helmet was stupid big, it sat low on the head and covered damn near everything. When you went prone while wearing an alice ruck the frame would push the helmet down over your face, you couldn't really use comms with it on and some people hated the suspension system.
Now personally I like the suspension, it had just a few points of contact with the head and the rest was open space so you could get some airflow. There was also a pad that you could strap in there that you could dip in water and it would swell up just like those cooldanas. It got swampy after a while, but it kept your brain from baking and it raised the helmet up a bit so you could see and hear a little better.
Some of the first generation ACH pads weren't made correctly, they absorbed tons of sweat and got really swampy and disgusting after a while and they don't allow for any real air circulation.
The big thing about the helmet switch was that the ACH covers about 30% less of the skull than the PASGT, which doesn't seem like a big deal except that it happened to be the 30% most likely to be hit by an IED in those most turbulent years in Iraq, consequently head and neck injuries rose significantly at that time and many units deploying then were given the option to retain their K-pots rather than use the ACH. Eventually of course the change happened anyway and by 2006 I think everybody was using the ACH anyway. Even the Marines, who had originally adopted an updated PASGT called the Light Weight Helmet. But the manufacturer fucked up and had to recall them all, forcing Jarheads to use the ACH instead, this was also about the same time they were all wearing coyote tan flight suits because their marpat utilities weren't fire retardant enough making them look truly goofy.

The PASGT offers better coverage than the ACH but it gets in the way a bit more, still my favorite though.

>>30063035
It sits around the top of my midsection when I don't have my PC on.

With the PC on, it fits tight as hell, I can't really use the map pocket with my PC on so I use an admin pouch for my range cards and GRGs.

Extra batteries live in the zip pocket on the right oblique, and I keep a spritzer of CLP in the right 2-mag pouch.

Not much of a problem, even when I'm wearing my AG bag.

You have better options, but this is a decent place to start.

>>30060820
what pc is that?

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>>30063013
Well if it works for You then it's fine but I don't think I will take any inspiartion of that set :-P

And the facepaint part made me kek hard, pic related
that grin makes sense now

>>30060774
Mogadishu-core

>>30060647
Please tell me this troll.

http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/T0YAAOSwstxVWNx-/s-l300.jpg

Because if I get hit in the head by a 30-06 or m855...it won't matter.

Valhalla fuckers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSDK-qhYw0g

>>30061563
wrap duct tape around sharpie or flishlight to save space

>>30060984
Try lifting

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>>30061363

My EXFIL is primarily a mounting system for NODs. If gear queering it wouldn't make sense to buy carbon bump helmets if you don't ever plan on getting into the NODS game. There is legitimate purposes to buying ballistic helmets as a GQ though.

>>30062843

>fake medic patch

its a star of life

>>30063152

LBT 6094B in mas grey

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>>30063069
Someone stole my truck which had my ACH in there. I also had a PASGT and I effectively lasted my entire korea rotation without being forced to get a new ACH. Shit was baller. I actually much prefer the coverage area and breathing, compared to the ACH. The weight is worth it. I think those things sit too damn high, and get too hot too quickly. I remember years ago trading for an XL or XXL ACH, shit was big as fuck and was like a pot. But I enjoyed it more haha.

>>30063003
From what I've seen it seems worth the wait given the quality/price.

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>>30061565
stop triggering me by posting this abomination

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Posting new KSOR level 4 goretex in exchange for 6B27 helmet information

>>30065717
>Trading used Goretex
anon please.

>>30065872
>Implying they're not new
>Implying I was not trading the picture for information
anon pls

>>30065872
learn2 reading comprehension. That guy is posting an image of his gortex for info

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>>30065887
>Russian epuiment
>new

>Implying I'm not trading in (you)s

>>30060763
We have all this shit already, but problem is they're either heavy, bulky, restrictive, or just uncomfortable.

Hell, you can add more protection along with your plate carrier but with current and near future stuff we got, its always going to be protection vs. comfort/mobility.

>>30061510
Quite often considering my occupation you aspy.

>>30061022
Still better than the interceptor

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>>30065717
Does 6b47 info count?

>>30066524
Is that the newer or older one?
I need that newnew

>>30060706
Clearly britosh since the flag on his right should is the union jack

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>>30066700
thats prince harry you mook.

PC comes tomorrow pls help me make a IFAK

>>30066734
also need a kydex kangaroo pouch, kthx

>>30066718
Sorry i dont know my redcoats, filthy tory.

>>30066718
>Using troy handguards...
God save the queen!

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>>30066787
Missing out then.
>>30066837
better than getting a l85

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>>30061363
Going to disagree. Helmets are more useful than most web gear and plate carriers, etc.

If you have a plate carrier, you should at least have a cheap ass bump helmet.

I have to ask you all; what's the point of this? What's the point of all these plate carriers and tacvests and shit?

Where are you going and what are you doing that justifies wearing this shit, even for comfort's sake?

>>30060707
>It's both
It may be both now.
But my 1980s West Germant Helmet came with clear instructions:
>designed to protect from shrapnel
>not designed to protect from direct blows (e.g. due to falling from bike/horse)
>not designed to protect from direct hits from gunshots

>>30066844
>better than getting a l85
Truth. Also I like the VTac handguards which are Troy. God I hope you guys leave the EU, just because of the massive butthurt it will cause ze Germans.

>>30066903
>justifies
kys

>>30066906
>you guys
I mean, I'm Canadian so. but yeah UK is fucked

>>30066903
I hunt in some of my gear. Compete in other gear. Train is some other other gear.

>>30066915
>I'm Canadian
I wish /k/ had flags sometimes

>>30066909
If I had the option of wearing battle rattle and of not wearing battle rattle, I'd rather not wear battle rattle because that shit is heavier and more restrictive than not wearing battle rattle.

>>30066920
train for fucking what

>>30066915
Canadian tripfag

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>>30066903
Anon, what's the point of anything? What do we live for?

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>>30066953
yeah, I'm like one of the few, and probably one of the last canadian gear queers that trips

>>30066970
hey senpai whats a good kydex kangaroo pouch

>>30066903
/thread

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>>30066906
>>30066915
Bong reporting in!
We won't. We should, but we had a chance to change from a FPTP voting system which didn't go through and the campaign against the change is very similar:
Scaremongering, slanderous outright lies, entirely of political elite and media against it, and women being women and not wanting change or uncertainty.

At this point I'd fully support a 4th Reich. Just please fucking end it already.
On a more on-topic note: anyone know the differences between the Surefire EP7's and 3M's Combat arms 4.1 plug? What's comfier, better rating, lasts longer?

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>>30066962
>What do we live for?
sikk beats and massive drops

but seriously, I understand the point of having lots of pockets and storage, but I don't understand why you don't just get a coat with a lot of pockets instead of wandering around downtown in a tacvest and plate carrier. Even if you're a silly enough nigger to OC an AR, do you really expect to be firing more than 60 rounds in a single average day? Can you not fit a water bottle or even a full 2l canteen in a backpack instead of a dedicated Canteen Pouch By Tacticom(tm) 5.11(c)? It just all seems counter-intuitive to how someone would want to actually carry their EDC in a normal day, and in a survival situation, you'd probably want it all in an easy to carry bag or tote, and in a battle situation with a first world military, you'd be issued your gear. And if you're Le Scaring Le Gubment, you'd want your gear to be concealed. Literally what is the point of all this compared to just sewing an extra couple pockets into your windbreaker and calling it a day?

>>30066636
6b47 is the newest. 6b27 is actually a bit more protective since it was designed as an assault helmet, though it's one generation older.

>>30067038
>not preparing for the upcoming race war
>not splashing out as much as possible on gear to let people know how successful you were in the past life, thus not a nigger by any definition of the word

Step it up, son.

>>30067079
>not preparing for the upcoming race war
Again, wouldn't you want to conceal your equipment instead of strapping it all to your chest like some fatty mallninja?

>not splashing out as much as possible on gear to let people know how successful you were in the past life, thus not a nigger by any definition of the word
Wouldn't you then want to rig your normally fashionable clothing to feature a lot of attachment points and pouches inside for your various tactical and survival gear to project an air of class only earned through being a dangerous psycho-social navigator who always has a sharp sitletto on hand, instead of looking like a mangy dog of the shogunate wearing tan in the forest and green in the desert as his master demands?

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>>30066945
>train for fucking what
I train to fuck your whore mother in the mouth.

Honestly I train to be a better shooter, respond to medical emergencies, by physically fit, to better myself and be a productive member of this society.

>>30066996
Stay weak. Maybe someone will take pity on you one day.

>>30067038
>>30067102
Goddman you are projecting all over the place

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>>30067102
Na senpai. Strap as much ammo on your person as possible and shoot any nigs and kikes you find on sight.

>>30067119
>I train to fuck your whore mother in the mouth.
I don't care if you do, but I'd recommend against it. She's an insane fat black harpy and will probably kill you with a wine bottle.

>Honestly I train to be a better shooter, respond to medical emergencies,
You don't need a chest rig to do either of these things. In fact, an entire first aid kit fits in a normal-sized soft pouch like you'd have on a bicycle or attach to a fancy MOLLE kit or whatever.

t. first aid cert holder because I had to do it for my reservist job

>>30067132
are you honestly saying you need more than 60 rounds and 2 litres of water in an average day

have you tried not living in Chad

>>30067119
You're probably just a gear holding nerd who likes to pretend they operate. Just admit it.

>>30067185
>wild guessing about someone's character based on some stuff they own
literally gun-grabber logic

>oh, you own a gun to protect yourself? guess you must be paranoid or obsessed with phalluses

>>30067185
see
>>30067132

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>>30067229
>person has shitloads of anime stickers and an Itasha paintjob on their gun
>"wow theyre probably a disgusting weaboo and /ak/ shitposter"

>U-URE JUSS A RACIST

literally u

>>30067075
Anything to justify the 6B47 over 6B27 other than
A E S T H E T I C?
I mean I only want the helmet to match the rest of the ratnik shit for looks anyways, but do you have an opinion of which is better? Or is the 47 at least comfortable for you?

>>30067256
Just go. Who even cares this much about someone owning some gear? If it comes time to become a rooftop chink I think I will be glad to have some armor and a way of carrying mags.

>>30066987

http://www.skdtac.com/Ferro-Concepts-KTS-Kydex-Triple-Shingle-M4-Pouch-p/fer.102.htm

Hello every one I ask this in a armor thread but I would like some second opinions would it practical to line the inside of a large coat or jacket with Kevlar to the point in whitch I could survive small arms fire and knives

>>30067355
"no"

>>30067355
absolutely. you can survive all kinds of small arms fire and knives with like that.

>>30067315
>$65.35
pls

>>30067355sage
heavy, would compromise the effectiveness of kevlar due to creasing/bending, more hassle and expense when compared to a lllA slick and soft armor insert.

>>30067396
kevlar does not stop knives.

>>30067396
sarcasm?

>>30067421

if you think gear is going to be cheap you're in for a bad ride m8

ill sell you my LBT bungee insert for $20

>>30067422
I never know it did not stop knives

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>>30067149
>You don't need a chest rig to do either of these things. In fact, an entire first aid kit fits in a normal-sized soft pouch like you'd have on a bicycle or attach to a fancy MOLLE kit or whatever.

I dont keep my first aid kit on my chest rig, but you can project all you want kiddo. I have multiple first aid kits\first response kits\blow out kits that I take with me depending on what I am doing.

>t. first aid cert holder because I had to do it for my reservist job
If you are cool with that, then good. I am not happy with just a first aid cert.

>are you honestly saying you need more than 60 rounds and 2 litres of water in an average day
I dont know who you think I am or what kind of gear I have, but I can go from grey man to complete battle rattle. Also with how many cals I burn I need some food and some simple tools. All gear is just fucking tools. Pick the right gear for what you are doing. No need to wear a plate carrier, with no plates in it to the range or the grocery store.

You sound like a "little fashionista" complaining about the hot girls in the slut clothing right now though.

>>30066987
Ferro concepts or S&S precision.

>>30067436
>bungee
no thanks famalam

>>30067450
>S&S precision
i will google thx

>>30066987
>>30067315
>>30067436
>>30067450
you could try a mayflower or LBT bungee insert and some Esstac KYWI's.

>>30061486
thaaaaaatssssss
notttttt
truuuuueeee
nigga

>>30067432
obviously

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>>30067478
its not cheap either, but those are the best options.
>>30067489
I had the mayflower one, I dont think theres much room to stuff KYWIs in there.

>>30067489
i dont want anything over the mags

>>30067507
fugg ill just buy the ferro then

>>30067507
Yeah, some people chop up their kywis to get them in. Personally I don't know if I trust kydex inserts to hold in an AR mag.

What would be my best bet for getting a hat that also has a spot for patches?

>>30067540
SKD (OEM by HSGI) if you're a normal human bean

Arcteryx if you're a gear queer dead bird fanatic like skelly

RE Factor if you're an instagram-tier bro with an Agency Arms glock

>>30067655
Thans famalam, need one for work and opr8in on the weekend, so patches are preferred

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>>30067507
kywis work fine in my mayflower insert

Looking to get a carrier and an ECH? where do yall get your shit? I'm not looking to spend my life savings but I want decent stuff

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Do you guys use gloves in the summer? I have a pair for the winter but they suck for warm weather. I'm adding a boonie to all this. Probably going to get a chicom style vest too.

>>30068114
Mechanix, use them for operating and manual labor.

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>>30068114
PU coated gloves.
I can do surgery in these things

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>>30068114
frog gloves
decently comfy in hot weather and plenty of protection

>>30061525
>dat mooseknuckle

>>30068193
Love those, use em for work, lots of dexterity and reasonable protection.

>>30068114
I have some Mechanix FastFit or Oakley SI Lightweights I use in either summer or winter

It never really gets bad enough in the winter to where I need heavier gloves

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>>30068193
IMO Those are some of the best gloves best gloves money can buy.

I bought a pack of 20, and I use them for everything

>>30061607
go outside

>>30061751

What's your MOS, bro? Just curious. Always wanted to know.

>>30068347
I'm outside right now. I don't take pictures in gear outside because I'm not autistic enough to wear that shit shooting.

>>30061441
Yep it's the 10 pouch sks rig. They fit snuggly. What kind of mags did you use?

>>30068501
What pmags*

Maybe yours is just sewn smaller

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>>30067752

What's the deal with the bandage wrap on your 14?

>>30066787
Lol, idiot

How do yall feel about the condor gunner plate carrier? Does it suck or is it good for the money?

>>30069240
my 14 fell in a ditch and sprained its ankle. the bandage helps with wobble in the j arm and provides a little bit of padding
now if only I could get this helmet to fit better

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>>30069345

>Condor gear

You're going to have a bad time m8.

About the only things they make that are semi legit is their fleece clothing and hats.

Save your money and buy one of these. Crazy good deal.

http://m.ebay.com/itm/NEW-London-Bridge-LBT-6094S-Plate-Carrier-RANGER-GREEN-US-Marshal-Custom-Med-Lrg-/401116412890?nav=SEARCH

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>>30069384

Sounds like you need to invest in some mounting upgrades, maybe a lanyard as well.

Other then that your setup is pretty solid.

>>30069434
Is LBT good shit all around or just this carrier? Thanks for the help

>>30060635
Bullet deflection bruh

>>30069495

LBT is top tier all around.

>>30069660
How does it compare to the PIG carrier?

>>30069672
Way nicer, especially considering you can often get a 6094 for the price of a PIG

>>30060990
This and even with normal use I have seen 3A stop 3A threats at the 10 year mark

>>30060635
Nope. Ruck march, ~4am. Fort Benning, pitch black. Anyone who's been there knows those damn narrow roads in the woods are cracked to shit and have many pot holes in them.
One of my feet found one. I went straight down; there was no recovering from that stumble. I fell flat with my knees and forehead hitting the pavement first. That ACH saved my head and face. You, motherfucker, are probably a straight wannabe military fuck who plays airsoft

Should I go for the d3cr? I don't need pistol mag pouches since I don't have a pistol and I don't think that stacking pouches upfront is a good idea. Also how good are these pouches for carrying medical stuff?

>>30069711
Neat, too bad I'm broke and payday is a week away.

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>>30069466
what upgrades are you suggesting? I already got a lanyard and the rhino 2 fits my needs. honestly hobbies are gonna be on the backburner for a while since I'm saving to get PRK

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>>30068227

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>>30069434
While I might like that 6094S carrier , I do want something that breathes, even a little bit with spacer mesh.

Anyone have experiences with these two $200 carriers?

http://www.tacticalassaultgearstore.com/vanguard-armor-carrier.html

http://www.warriorassaultsystems.com/elite-ops-range/amour-carriers/dcs-plate-carrier/dcs-ranger-green/dcs-base-ranger-green/

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>>30069816

I'm always a buy once cry once guy.

I'd suggest the Wilcox L4 G24 and their J arm.

They are rock solid.

>>30070266
I took a look at those, decided I wouldn't be satisfied with it for how much they charge for it.
I like the norotos invg, but they're much too pricey atm. the rhino 2 is good enough that I don't mind waiting a few years while the market evolves.

Recommend me a shirt and jacket. Any weather, any time, any place. Money's no issue

>>30070465
Actually, fuck it. Help me build an entire set up. Need a plate/rig, pants, belt, and shirt+jacket combo. I live innadesert, but something I could get away with wearing while driving my truck

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>>30070481
>something I could get away with wearing while driving my truck
Dress like the locals, and get a chicom
Look poor and unimportant

>>30070519
It'll obviously double as my /out/ gear, so camo's not really on the menu. I don't exactly want to go in shorts and a tank

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>>30070519
Some companies that I've used and liked
Arcteryx: is pretty good on everything
Arktis: for their smocks
northface: they can make some nice things
tag: I liked their shagmaster for nights
Duluth: I like their pants
Frog togs: waterproofs are cheap breathable and easy to pack away and above all else disposable.

summer isn't that hard just get something lightweight and breathable.
I personally like wearing 100% cotton in dry heat.

Get a slick PC or BALC vest & a chest rig based on you weapon and your preference

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>>30062972
No, I passed high school algebra.

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>>30063069
They started issuing kevlar pads that hook into the straps of the ACH and give soft coverage to the back of the neck.

I never cared to wear it, but if you're worried about a loss in coverage, that pad allows you as much as the PASGT while still giving you the advantages of increased head mobility and ACH suspension.

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>>30070016
I don't have any experience with the Vangaurd but if it's anything like my Gladiator chest rig, also by TAG, then you are good to go my friend.

>>30060647
How do you like the HSGI drop leg panel? I've been contemplating getting one, but I just can't bring myself to do so without a few decent reviews.

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How do magpul MS3 slings come packaged?

either I just bought a really good knockoff or I bought a genuine MS3 sling for £5. It has magpul logos/branding printed onto the plastic and came in a cardboard backed polybag that you split in half to reveal the wearing instructions.

pic related

>>30071025
That's a real magpul, how did you get it so cheap?

>>30070837
These are super comfy

>>30071126
They get so fucking saturated with sweat tho. I have an old one that literally smell like death

>>30071076
it was on amazon as generic, I'm in the UK and was looking at a airsoft sling on the cheap and it came up, snapped it up because I like the MS3 style

>>30071173
Nice, to bad I need an MS4

>>30067355
oh its you again. okay so I wanted to add that you want to fold the edges of the fabric and sew them down that way you have no area that is a dead zone

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>>30060706

It's a US Army IBA, I believe it was being used so HRH could do some plinking on the range on a visit to the US.

>>30060749
>>30066700
Call yourself gear queers, faggits? Learn to ID gear properly. Pic related is Osprey. The camouflage isn't even DPM.

I mean christ. Does anyone actually know anything about kit here?

>>30060763
Is that smoke coming from the shotguns mag tube? Does this happen?

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>>30071025
That's exactly how it should've been packed.

Either the Chinamen are stepping it up or you got yourself a very nice deal.

>>30071025
Why does it matter
It's just some plastic and straps
Who gives a fuck what the brand is
You stupid fucking brandwhores

>>30071562
not all plastic is made to the same quality
retard

>>30071758
Don't talk to me about plastic quality faggot, I have a $6k nylon-carbon composite 3d printer

>>30071776
>I have a printer
impressive.

>>30071776
Soooo, you more than anybody should know that not all plastic and polymer is the same quality.

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Haven't cut the tags off yet

Haven't decided

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>>30060631
>>30063003

I'd go with the Spiritus Systems "Micro Fight" instead, and you're supporting a veteran owned company (instead of an ex-con owned company).

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bought a ferro KTS, huge improvement from bungees.

>>30072288
pls stop putting multicam pouches on your pc it physically hurts me to look at it.

>>30072303

"no"

>>30061527
Fucking clean your ears... You have fucking orange ear wax you fuck.

If I'm looking to get into gear, maybe just start with a carrier and acquire slowly, what should I go for?
Carrier
Hard Plates
Helmet

>>30072359

it's hard to beat the price for one of these right now

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-London-Bridge-LBT-6094S-Plate-Carrier-RANGER-GREEN-US-Marshal-Custom-Med-Lrg-/401116412890?hash=item5d6466bbda:g:XtMAAOSw~oFXK3yJ

they retail at ~$400

>>30072288
Just three mags?

>>30072359
Depends how much money you have to drop.

IMO, the most logical way to gear up to go scalable.

>CCW and CC holster first. Gets your real life EDC in order.
>Get a battle/duty belt second. This will be your 'firstline' for your pistol, pistol mags, 1-3 rifle mags, and medical.
>Next get your chestrig/chestpanel/loadbearing & water setup. This rounds out your rifle mags and gives you hydration. If you get a MOLLE loadbearing setup, you can in the future put the pouches on the body armor if you want that.
>Then get a plate/armor carrier. DO. NOT. CHEAP. OUT. The difference between a quality carrier and a cheapshit one is great, so by the time you buy one, bite the bullet and get the one you want, not the cheapest one.
>Helmet if you want. I'm kinda whatevs on a helmet personally.
>After this you can start looking at NODs and upgraded commo
>Parallel to this, look at hiking packs if this is something which interests you and grab a good pack at any stage of gear queerism.

This order scales you from personal defense, to firstline, to full kit. And it incidentally tends to go from least to most expensive, making the process easy.

>>30070913
So I'm replacing my shitty Taurus since it sucks. It served me well as my first gun but it's time to upgrade to nonpoorfag status. I was looking at the M&P40. Anyone have any options on it? I shot one this past weekend and really liked it.

>>30072478

120 rounds including the mag in my rifle. I can put another mag in each side pouch on the cummerbund of the PC if I want.

>>30072479
How much am I looking at doc? Assuming that I actually already have my CHL and all the gear for that ( yay Texas)
Right now I guesstimate like 600 for a plate carrier and plates, maybe 300-400 for helmet?
Or am I not even close?

>>30072622
>$200-400 for a plate carrier
>~$200 for plates
>$200-300 for an ACH, more for something fancy.
>$100-400 for a load of pouches.
>$15-200 for a belt

>>30072803

>$200 for plates

not level 4, unless you find a sweet deal on ebay or something. more like $400 for a front and back plate.

>>30063950
What multi-tool is that if I may ask?

>>30072939
that's a leatherman mut

>>30072264
Wish the front were molle instead of Velcro. Really limits the versatility

>>30072824
$320

>>30072954
Much appreciated

>>30070837
can these be attached to opscore chin straps? specifically the h-nape

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What the fvck are Britbong Osprey holsters meant for?
Picked one up expecting an affordable MOLLE-compatible holster for my Browning Hi-Power... but my gat is swimming in it.

>>30072264
Supporting veterans is great and all but an ex-con that turns his life around and starts a successful business is something to support as well.

The real reason not to buy from OSOE is how he responded to a woman by cussing her out when she had order issues. There is also the non-delivery of pre-paid products that has not been rectified years later. Throw into those his supports of a person that is guilty of stolen valor and there are genuine reasons to not supports them over others. For the "fuck you" approach, you can order from BDS which is the actual original SOE under a new name that was taken over by his ex-wife when he went up river.

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>>30072478
3 isnt bad.

>>30073779

thanks for the KTS recommendation, I like it a lot. >>30072288

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Okay so,
I've noticed people run their sidearms on the belts/battle belts. Comfort wise this seems fine but any reasons this may or may not be better than near the chest? I've never had any problems going prone, but hey, whatever works? Is it quicker access?

>>30070946
I'm thinking about one too.. Trying to find an OD one but no luck.

>>30071025
>>30071173
britfag here in desperate need of an MS3, you got links?

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Just had to drive off bush trimmings and stack pallets in a pretty bad rain for about an hour. Upper body stayed dry and the jacket stayed out of my way. The hood adjustments work really well. Shorts got soaked though. Overall I'm really happy with it and I love the color.

/post purchase rationalization

Requesting the pic of the SF guy wearing the Baja sweater under his plate carrier.

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>>30074411

>>30074189
Looks to be in-stock.

Call HSGI and ask if they can make you one. You may have to pay a premium.

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>>30070814
>I passed high school algebra

>>30074264
what the fuck does a brit need with a rifle sling

>>30074468
he looks like kim coates

>>30073779
Is that UBAC good? Looking at getting one to go with my BDU pants

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>>30075258
the crye one? yeah its alright but not for what you'd find it for.
just go get the one garandthumb shills, kratos gear or something, I'll probably buy one of those when I got the extra dosh too.

>>30074189

On belt is more natural for most people but gets in the way if you're wearing armor and/or are in vehicles a lot. If you wear armor but aren't in a vehicle all the time a drop-leg might be the way to go, if you wear armor and are inna vehicle all the time chest mounted is generally the way to go.

>>30075276
I just need it to not get fucked up when I'm using it really. Cost ain't a bother

>>30075314
>cost aint a bother
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Crye-Precision-G3-Combat-Shirt-Small-Regular-SR-MARSOC-Custom-Woodland-M81-/322113694212?hash=item4aff78ea04:g:rokAAOSwUgNXPUnu
you say that now

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>>30075276
Heh, I've got one of those too...

>>30075338
>$600 for a shirt with holes
Is it rare or something?

>>30075338
>http://www.ebay.com/itm/Crye-Precision-G3-Combat-Shirt-Small-Regular-SR-MARSOC-Custom-Woodland-M81-/322113694212?hash=item4aff78ea04:g:rokAAOSwUgNXPUnu
Ok well cost ain't a bother but I bought a digi flora from fucking Splav, and had it shipped around the world for 120 bucks. Crye is a bunch of faggots who I wouldn't give my money to if that was even half the cost

>>30075350
Link to digi flora pls

>>30075348
they were only made in a contract between Crye and MARSOC. the ones that sell on the civilian market are always over $300

kratos sog is making my woodland shirts right now so if you order you might not have to wait very long assuming he makes them in batches.

>>30075350
buy the Kratos one then its basically the price of a real crye shirt
http://www.kratos-sog.com/K-SOG-Custom-Combat-Shirt-p/ksogcs-00.htmhttp://www.kratos-sog.com/K-SOG-Custom-Combat-Shirt-p/ksogcs-00.htm
>>30075348
yes, MARSOC only gets them and any are taken from the military then sold.

>>30075276
>brought a whole combat set to kratos gear
>take 2 month just to create a shipping label

and they still haven't send it !
0/10, i would have brought more stuff from them but they are fucking shit

>>30075363
Chaka98 on Ebay, my PC wants to restart, thred ded, and idk if he has them up right now. Or splav.ru

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Crye Precision G3 Combat Shirt Woodland Small Reg
Potomac Field Gear FR Woodland MCCUU-Cut pants (MARSOC Issue at some point, called Potomac Field Gear about it) Small Reg

>>30075380
>bought
>from kratos

damn typos

>>30075381
Awesome, thank you

>>30075224

He could be .mil, or an airsofter more likely

>>30075389
well another anon said they were waiting on a restock for the woodland stuff so I dunno, have you actually talked to them?

>>30075415
yeah i talked to them, except that mine was UCP-Delta and they have 3 quintijillion of M-Defender cloth in that pattern and they are still making/selling them on their ebay page

>>30075429
odd, dunno then man Garandthumb shills them I havent dealt with them.

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Does anyone make a similar style bungee retention 6 mag pouch besides condor? I want one but I don't want my shit to break if I look at it too hard.

>have surplus TAP vest
>have 3L camelback

What's the best way to wear both of these at the same time? Also, what the fuck do I do with the hydration tube/hose thing when it's not in my mouth.

>>30075523
condor shit that isn't load bearing is usually pretty decent

>>30075929
Route the camelback hose through one of the elastic bands on the front of the shoulder strap of the TAP.

>>30069660
>Med/large
Manlet here. Will it still fit? I'm seriously like 5'9".

>>30075958
>those are elastic

Fucking god dammit shit.

I never realized that. Also I need to tighten this thing.

>tfw lost weight

What's a good PC to eventually get to wear under it?