/akg/ AK General

>>30050593
that's terribly ugly and not in an endearing way.

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>>30050602
Let's see what your idea of a Vepr 12 should look like then.
ZenitCo more your style?

I like my AMD 63

I love aks

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>>30051060
Meant to post a picture

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Are the dimensions and pin placement on the Jmac 74NK gas block close enough to the Russian 90 degree one that I won't have to spend a fortune on getting it to fit?

I don't really feel like going through the hassle of getting a 114 dollar piece of metal shipped to yurokekistan, only to find out that it doesn't fit muh Saiga.

whats the best place to buy a vepr?
atlantic
or
classic

>>30051052
>Sending lead in the soil right next to crops

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>>30051098
Then you should see my trap/skeet range where pound after pound flies into the fields every week.
for the record, not me here, just figured you'd probably want to rage more

>>30051089
When in doubt, ABC
>Anywhere But Classic
With plenty of shops having them now, look around to see who has the best deal, shipped.
Classic wants ~$35 shipping.

Try this
http://www.gunwatcher.com/Search-best-price/vepr-12-for-sale

>Looks like Centerfire Guns has them for $684 shipped.

>>30051089
>>30051181
I read that as Vepr 12.
My bad, if that's not what you're referring to.

If it came down to it, is 5.45 good enough for black bear defense or would you choose 7.62x39?

>>30051189
yeah thats actually what i meant.
but centerfire has some shitty reviews, i was looking for something popular that you cant go wrong with really. apparently they charge you more if youre using a card like buds but they dont tell you its gonna happen

How are tws dog railmounts? Worth the 100 dollar price tag?

>>30051209
Oh, didn't know that.
Yeah that's shitty.
Look at the gunwatcher link and see if there's another shop that has it for a better price, shipped.
>Or just go with Atlantic.

>>30051199
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/07/robert-farago/ak-hiker-kills-bear-with-ak-74/

Might have to mag dump, but it's feasible.

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>>30051233
No. Get a cheaper side rail then use a level and a file to make it perfectly flat.

>>30051068
It looks like it should be fine, if it's off a bit just oversize thole hole and pin

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Mag update
5.45 rpk mags will probably be $50 a piece, used plums are $20, NOS (new, old stock) 7.62 bakes are $35 and 40 round 7.62 bakes are $90 and aluminum 7.62 waffle mags are $90
Nows the time to jump on that band wagon
There will probably be two orders, the first one for plums and rpk mags, and the second for everything.
[email protected]

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>>30050602
shut your mouth

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>>30051580
When do you plan on getting these in the states ?
20$ plums have my interests

>>30051739
I hope to have the first order (plums and rpk bakes) done within the week if possible. Then international shipping should take 2-3 weeks or so

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>>30051752
Sweet I'm looking for 10 and I'm in Az

any AK buying guides? in the market for one

>>30051785
Cool, just shoot me an email and I'll put you on the spreadsheet

>>30051580
What are your accepted methods of payment? Just paypal?

>>30051827
PayPal is best. Unless you have a better idea

>>30051848
Blowjobs?

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>tfw that lower handguard wobble tinfoil trick actually works

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>Buy Obzor online
>Arrived yesterday
>Tiny scratch right in the center of the front lens
J U S T
U
S
T

>>30051938
>JUST MY GLASS INTO PIECES
>THIS IS MY LAST OR-DER

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>>30051580
Interested in the a couple of RPK mags for my 74.

>>30051580
Can he get NOS plums?

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>>30051868
I'm afraid not, I do however accept Vietnamese Dong
>>30051999
Shoot me an email

>>30051810
Email sent

NY fag here (long island). Is there a site that has saiga shotguns on sale? Where can I find one of these bad boys?

>>30052115
>Saiga
Banned from import since mid 2014. You're going to need to find one used or get lucky and find one NOS somewhere

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>>30052042
>69 Dongs = $0.00308982
Holy shit is their money worthless.
For 1 plum it'd be 446,627.96 VND.
>That's a lot of Dong.

>>30052186
>little Vietnamese dongs

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>>30051785
Where in az are you, friendo?

>>30052318
Lols you know who I am if your posting that pic
Carefree and 1-17

Is the obozor shit? It sounds like commie magic, but I want one for my vepr
Either that or aimpoint, I would go for ACOG but that ruins the ak look

>>30052360
They're pretty good, you'll just have a chinweld.

I'm thinking about getting my barrel cut to 14.5 inches and installing a venom tactical gasblock.
Any suggestions for a 24mm muzzle brake replacement? I'm thinking about getting the akou fight brake right now.

>>30052420
Zenitco DTK-1 or 2

>>30052420
>I'm thinking about getting my barrel cut to 14.5 inches and installing a venom tactical gasblock.
Cancer. literally cancer.
>bolt on gas blocks on a fucking AK

>>30052420
>107CR hasn't begger getting desperate now

>>30052542
>can still be pinned
>only 2 cases where them being bolted alone caused an issue
>those 2 cases were when their owner took them off and didn't reinstall them properly
Please, provide any more evidence of them being an issue and not another case of an anon talking out of his ass because he heard something bad about it on /k/ once and continues to parrot it.

>literally
Cancer. Your post is figuratively cancer

>>30052591
>can still be pinned
And you can fit a coke can up your ass, doesn't mean it's a good idea or designed for it.
>only 2 cases where them being bolted alone caused an issue
>bolted alone
Sure thing. You're dealing with different gas pressures in piston gun like the AK than a DI gun like the AR. The bolt on gasblocks are "okay" in AR's, not in AK's.
>those 2 cases were when their owner took them off and didn't reinstall them properly
Sure thing pal. Ask yourself how many post samples with tens of thousands of rounds have bolt on gas blocks.
>Please, provide any more evidence of them being an issue and not another case of an anon talking out of his ass because he heard something bad about it on /k/ once and continues to parrot it.
You're the one who claimed first that they're acceptable, burden of proof :^)
>literally
>Cancer. Your post is figuratively cancer
Go back to l.e.d.d.i.t.

>>30052629
>doesn't mean it's a good idea or designed for it
except it is designed for it, and it's not a bad idea if you want it pinned and don't plan on ever removing it, which you shouldn't anyway.

>Sure thing. You're dealing with different gas pressures in piston gun like the AK than a DI gun like the AR. The bolt on gasblocks are "okay" in AR's, not in AK's.
Again, prove that they've caused issues. Don't worry, I'll wait.

> Ask yourself how many post samples with tens of thousands of rounds have bolt on gas blocks.
What does that have to do with that guy wanting to put it on his rifle? He's not going to run it like a post-sample.

>You're the one who claimed first that they're acceptable, burden of proof :^)
>burden of proof
You claimed they were shit, I claimed you have a complete lack of evidence. My proof they work well enough- Jim Fuller
>inb4 Jim a shit
He's still building plenty of rifles using them and I've neither seen, nor read any complaints involving the gas block, therefore someone is using them (even on post-samples) and there's no proof they're not working.

>l.e.d.d.i.t.
>:^)
Because you don't know how to English, I need to go. Sure thing buddy.

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Reposting from previous thread. Can someone help me identify the manufacturer of this brake? Bought it at a gun show,seller claims US made but have doubts. Only lead to anything is the triangle stamped underneath.

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>>30052769

>>30052769
Is it chromed lined ?

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>>30052789
I think yes maybe?

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>>30052785

>>30052769
only time ive seen a triangle mark like that is on my Chinese made mosin stripper clips that suck more dick than a thai hooker.

>>30052839
So I possibly bought chink shiet instead of slavshit or americrap?

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>>30052861
That or somebody tried to copy the this
>pic related

>>30052901
I have doubts of it being a replica because on the first picture I put up,underneath the triangle, there's a divet or small dimple where I think they checked for hardness. I don't think they would go that far on a fake right? Atleast I hope not.

>>30052936
Well I would imagine if its at least chrome lined it's likely to be g2g

>>30052982
Yeah you're right aha,had a moment of autism there hoping to figure out the original manufacturer but who gives a crap amiright? If not blowup inface then everything good.

>>30052861
just checked, its a circle with a triangle in it. not the same, still no idea what a blank triangle would signify for a company though.

>>30053031
I'm really curious about this now.

>>30052769
It's not Russian. The Russians have never made one that looks like that and they've never done the hardness test right there. Looks like it was probably US made in imitation of a Russian 100 series brake. Not sure who made it but I am almost positive it's US made.

Does anyone have any thoughts on PSA barreled receiver kits? How do they compare to DDIs or Arsenal as far as quality, finish, barrel, etc?

http://palmettostatearmory.com/psak47-ak-barreled-receiver-7-62x39-w-side-rail-1.html

>>30053473
I was thinking maybe these guys but don't see any triangle marks on their brakes.
http://www.ak-103.com/parts.html

>>30053804
No one fucking knows, no one can get their hands on them. Their first generation had some issues though for those few that people could get.

>>30050637
shotgun was fine.

>>30050593
Just ordered a Khyber pass parts kit from akbuilder

Any suggestions on what receiver I need to get? First time assembling a parts kit

>>30054197
>assembling
You're in a for a wild ride senpai. I hope you already did plenty of research. AK building is not AR assembling.

>>30051580
What kind of condition are the plums in? Also would you be able to send me an izhevsk 7,62 Bakelite?

>>30054403
Plums are in used condition but nothing terrible.
I'm getting 7.62 bakes but they'll be tula.

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>>30051534

You sure, fambula?
114 plus shipping is a lot of money for a lowly yurokek like myself.

>>30054766
The biggest discrepancy will either be the internal diameter of the gas block or the location of the gas port hole. Measure your barrel at the gas block and make sure it matches up with the specs listed on Jmac's website. If the location of the gas port hole is off, it complicates things, but it's not impossible to make it work if you have a few simple tools.

>>30054265
I'm having a gunsmith do it, I just need to know what receiver I need now man

>>30054900
Depends entirely how much you're willing to pay your gunsmith to drill holes and stuff. Also make sure that your gunsmith actually does AK builds, a lot of them don't.

>>30054900
You need to find out if your gunsmith actually does AK builds regularly and has the equipment for it. If not, then you're sending your kit to be destroyed.

>>30054265
What makes building an AK so much more difficult?

>>30055005
Because it's actually assembly with tools and rivets and machinery just like an assembly plant would do rather than piecing together milspec AR parts in your living room.

>>30055245
Understood, thanks.

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WASR 10 or AMD-65?

Besides the shit wire folder and furniture on the AMD, is there a big difference in overall quality between the two?

>>30055261
>>30055005
Watch this video of one of /k/ resident faggots building an AK

It is considerably more than HEY IM GUNNA BUY SOME SHIT FROM PSA AND BUILD AN AR IN MY BATHROOM

>>30055288
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LrkPCn3LmaA

Forgot link

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Where can I find a Russian made AKM?

>>30055300
>that fucking thing
I appreciate the link but I'm capable of complex thought and can imagine how and why it's harder.

>>30054954
>>30054912
He says he has done ak builds before so I think I'll be alright, but the question rains on which receiver to get, I know nodal spud has some for Huber pass kits but they're sold out.

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Is there an AK variant ( caliber or action doesn't matter ) where the barrel face never wears, and changing the bolt head completely brings headspace back up to spec ? Or the barrel can be changed easily ?

>>30055543
>where the barrel face never wears
wut
>and changing the bolt head completely brings headspace back up to spec ? Or the barrel can be changed easily ?
No. AK's aren't AR-15s

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>>30055567
I'm not sure how the name for it is English, but the part of the barrel that is directly facing you if the bolt is open. I'm basically wondering if it's possible to have an AK where you can just change bolt heads to maintain them.
Or AK knockoff/derivative.

>>30055617
>I'm not sure how the name for it is English, but the part of the barrel that is directly facing you if the bolt is open. I'm basically wondering if it's possible to have an AK where you can just change bolt heads to maintain them.
>Or AK knockoff/derivative.
In order to check headspace, the mating of the bolt/bolt face and the ass end of the chamber you need headspace gauges. Usually when replacing the bolt in an AK you have to reheadspace the rifle, which involved pressing out the barrel pin, pressing out the barrel, and then pressing it back in until it headspaces on the new bolt, at which point you oversize the hole and barrel pin groove and press in a new oversized barrel pin.

>>30055657
I understand that, but I'd like to know if there's an derivative or knockoff that allows you to bypass this and hypothetically, maintain your rifle indefinitely without requiring a press.

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>>30051938
I sent a message to the seller asking about it. I bought it as BNIB and I can deal with cosmetic issues like paint or scratches not on the actual lens, but a scratch on the lens just kind of sucks. It'd be different if I was buying a scratch and dent model and not paying full price he's asking for BNIB models, but paying the same amount of money for something that for other people is BNIB is just kind of shitty. We'll see what he responds with. I'd be totally fine exchanging with him for another he has on hand but he's now out of stock after two other buyers bought the last Obzors he had.

>>30055677
>I understand that, but I'd like to know if there's an derivative or knockoff that allows you to bypass this and hypothetically, maintain your rifle indefinitely without requiring a press.
I already answered that, the answer is no.

Anyone have experience with Beez Combat Systems AK chest rig?

I've been looking for MOLLE compatible single depth magazine pouches but all are out of stock or stupid expensive. This looks like a well made low profile chest rig.

>>30051848
Get venmo, 200 percent better with no fees and isn't actually antigun.

What is the dankest 7.62 AK series available for sale in the US?

Good build quality, good rifle, etc.

>>30056492
SLR107

>>30051153
thats actually kinda impressive.

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>>30056492

An original parts kit Type 3 is probably the dankest. For the rest of us in the real world, probably a Polytech Legend.

>>30056492

SLR-107FR

Avoid ones that say XM55 next to the serial number if you can. They're not all bad, but a few have had finish issues.

Also, swap out the trigger for an ALG AKT. Then you should have a damn fine rifle.

Don't get sloppy on inspecting potential buys though just because it's a 1000 dollar rifle. Check the fit, finish, canting, headspace, loose rivets, unusual blemishes, or anything else that can make you regret an AK buy.

>>30050593
>>30050593
Is there any good use for worn out 7.62x39 barrels?

I have a lathe if that matters.

>>30056663

Drill holes and turn into a flute.

>>30055695

I'm probably going to get mine from Kalinka and avoid some middleman fucking me over.

>>30056662

especially check Arsenals. I had to reject a transfer on a SLR-104 last week and it opened my eyes to what to be aware of on any AK.

I miss building my AR.. so much simpler.

>>30055695

credit card charge back if all else fails.

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So are bakelites overpriced meme magazines for people who want to make their gun look gucci?

Or are they in any way better than eastern european surplus steel magazine?

>>30056731
They are lighter than steel and are pretty rugged to begin with.

>>30056555
What's the difference between the types?

>>30056766

Type I, II, and III are early production models before the AKM as most people know. google it. too much to explain here.

http://imgur.com/a/aK7fX

here is a list of a lot of different AK models over the years.

>>30056731

very durable and lighter than steel magazines. AK103 magazines are superior but extremely expensive.

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>>30050593
Oh my God OP how did you manage to do this to use custom are they available for sale online how did you do this? It's too beautiful for this world

>>30057001
it's a stock VEPR 12 with wood grips and guard

So I just bought an Arsenal SAM7SF and I want to change the grip to bakelite, but it needs to fit the galil style safety switch. Anyone know of a brand of grip or a way to make a regular AK grip fit?

>>30057121
And so the disappointment begins

>>30057001
It's just RPK handguards and a Yugo M76 grip on a Vepr 12.

>>30057200
Great post anon

>>30055271
get the stock conversion kit for the am65 it better

>>30056492
Polytech

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>>30057121
>>30057200
>>30057507

>falling for the milled receiver maymay

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>>30057121
>Arsenal SAM7SF
>galil style safety switch

>>30057507
>>30057121
I wouldn't just keep it rather stock and enjoy it for what it is.

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>>30057674
Hard to say, depends on what you want from your rifle.

I really would like clayco folder, or a valmet. Love my legend though, heaps of class.

>>30057121
Haha. Didn't research it before buying.

>>30051181
Really? I just bought a gun a few days ago and shipping was 15.

Maybe cause I'm in the same state

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>>30057121

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What's /akg/ up to tonight

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>>30058356
Bf4

>>30052042
I have carried a 5000 dong coin in my wallet for years Got it as change from a vending machine in canada, apparently the coin trips the code for a 1$ canadian coin and is only worth something like 23 cents locals got wise to it and started using them in the machines. Good conversation starter to say I have 5000 dong in my wallet.

>>30058365
That picture. Is. Endless sex.

So I held the Century RAS47 today. It had the synthetic stock which feels wrong in my head. I really want an AK though. Should I get the wooden stock one? What are your thoughts on it for a first rifle?

>Inb4 stamped receiver

>>30051181
why not classic?
and why not buds either? for this firearm its more expensive in buds but ive seen people tell others not to buy from them.

>>30058365
Polish underfolder?

>>30058494
>Should I get the wooden stock one?

No.

>>30058494
>What are your thoughts on it for a first rifle?
It will disappoint hundreds of ign'ant faggots.

You want cheap beginner AK? Inspect you some WASRs and pick out a good one.

>>30058632

What's wrong with a wooden stock?

>>30058638
The rifle is what is wrong. RAS47s are bottom of the barrel garbage.

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>>30058638

Nothing is wrong with wood furniture (although I hear the Century stuff sucks). I am telling you not to get a RAS if you want a rifle worthy of the name 'Kalashnikov'

>>30058667

Oh okay, I was mostly wondering how reliable the RAS47 was. I kind of had my heart set on wood. Anything in particular I should look for when looking up WASRs?

>>30058690
Don't buy a RAS47, every part except the barrel is shit.

>>30058690
>I was mostly wondering how reliable the RAS47 was.

AKOU ran one for 5,000 rounds. After the fact, it was found to have headspacing failure and now must be destroyed because it is unsafe to use.

That's not even talking about all the shit that went wrong with it along the way.

>Broken front sight hood
>Front sight post won't hold still
>Rear sight tangent randomly broke
>Cracked buttstock
>Severe wear on all internal components (worse than 7k rounds WASR)

>>30058722
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vs7eK2SmGYM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bSiyfENeiQ

same rifle.

>>30056838

What makes 103 mags so special?

>>30058789
trade sanctions

>>30058722

Is the Century WASR-10 shit as well?

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>>30058849

Only if you buy a shit one.

Mine is great. I would innawoods during Ragnarok with it and not worry about its performance.

>>30058874
>Only if you buy a shit one.

What is a decent $800-ish or less AK to buy in the US and where is a good place to buy?

>>30058849
Nvm, I see from this video >>30058739
that the WASR-10 is about the same quality as the RAS47

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What color should i rattle can my m92?

>>30058901
>that the WASR-10 is about the same quality as the RAS47
KEK

One is a combloc rifle made in a combloc country on combloc machinery and the other is a bastardized American creation thrown together by drunken monkeys

There is a HUGE difference between the two.

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>>30058911

Gold.

>>30058916

It wasn't too long ago that the WASR was even worse quality than the RAS

>>30058916

I thought the video said the Century WASR-10 wore as bad as the RAS47?

>>30058958
It was considered bottom of the barrel. Now we have worse things than the WASR. Now we've come to realize WASRs are actually made to decent standards.

>>30058961
What the fuck video did you watch, cuz it sure as hell wasn't the one you're talking about.

>>30058961
>I thought the video said the Century WASR-10 wore as bad as the RAS47?

You didn't watch the one where the guts of the 1500 round RAS look worse than the guts of a 7000 round WASR

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4PpSluO4-A

>>30059014

You know, you're right. I was listening in the background while reading another reply. My mistake.

How do the WASRs compare to something like an M70?

>>30058789
Lighter, stronger polymer, people like the aesthetics.

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>>30059085
I love my WASR, personally. Shoots straight, minimal sight cant, everything I want out of an AKM type platform.
>Pic related

>>30059163
>minimal sight cant
KEK

>>30059211
the booletts go where I point iron sights, whats the issue?

Are battlecomps worth the 200 dollar price tag? Im in the market for a new muzzle device and a bit torn on what to get.
At this rate I might just buy the arsenal 74 style from a friend since that's my favorite one in terms of aesthetics

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What unusual things do you store with your AK?

>keep an orange paisley handkerchief near my AK at all times
>each of my roommates has one too
>tie around our arms in the event we hear someone trying to break in, in order to mark each of us clearly as "Do Not Shoot" to each other
>roommates and I are all armed, so we consider it a backup to positive identification

>>30059346

Do you keep matching dildos in your asses, too?

If I want a AK74/5.45x39, and I'm not interested in blowing more than a grand, is DDI my best bet?

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HOw yall been.
been away for a bit.
anything new in the AK community?

>>30059412
Just get a used slr or new I paid 1066 otd for mine new

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>>30052861
>Chinks
>Importing any thing remotely weapons related besides knockoff sights and airshit

kek, Norinco really fucked them selves over when they tried selling guns to nignog gangs, suck because they actually had really nice guns at very good prices. Oh well, I guess chinks will chink...

>>30059346
Fags
>>30059388
Answer.

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anybody hyped up for PBS-1?

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>>30059461
Anyone who isn't is a major faggot. PBS-1s are sexy as fuck and a working one in the US is even cooler. I can't wait.

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I've never seen an AK-74 for sale locally before and someone is selling on used, with 300 rounds for $800 on armslist, but the manufacturer isn't listed. From what I've found online it's a decent deal, what do you guys think?

Pic related unfortunately though.

>>30059761
call and ask for the manufacturer?

>>30059346
r u in a gang???

>>30050593
Might pull the trigger on an Arsenal,
What should I look out for? Is there a guide?
If I buy online and pick up a lemon, what can I do?

>>30059461
That's funny a couple of /AKG/ back I said someone should make an upgraded American version and everyone was talking shit to me. Now it comes to fruition and everyone is diamonds in the pants for it.

>>30060806
Do you need a tissue? There's a website called Reddit where everyone will be much nicer to you, you know.

>>30060856
I'm just calling people on there bullshit.

>>30060591
You're looking for a smooth pull and a clean break.

>>30057693
Milled guns are fine, the abortion which is the SAM7SF is not.

>>30059461
Are they multi caliber? I know duck all about cans

>>30061643
Good fucking grief, I'm about to remove "duck" from my phone's list of known words cuz it always replaces "fuck"

>>30059761
Jesus fuck no. Save up and get something decent.

>>30061654
don't. It's adorable.

>>30059606
Get rid of that tapco

>>30060806
>/k/ is one place
I can guarantee you it was just one sperg. Also a few /akg/ back that thing was still announced. It's been around for what, like two months or something? Anyway, the real hope is that it will actually function well.

So im seriously considering buying a 1p78, but its like 800 bucks.
I own a obzor its the shit but i want some magnification, Im not being a poor fag about it but ive never looked through one and never seen one in the wild.
Thoughts?
Experiences?
Somewhere cheaper but as reputable as kalinika?

http://kalinkaoptics.com/rifle-scopes/kashtan-1p78-tactical-combat-scope-w-solar-dual-black-green-german-post-reticle-ak-long-mount.html

I remeber seeing these for 400, now its 800, any reason other than scarcity?

>>30061689
I mean't
>/k/ is one person
wew

>>30061787
For that price just buy a acog

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>>30059606

>>30055271
Amd 65 has a smaller sight radius and to me that makes ot harder to use irons with

>>30052360
I love mine, fucking side mount, always holds 0 when i take it on and off

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>>30055271
Don't buy one of the 16" barrel AMD-65's senpai

Nofunz here, I was considering buying an AK as my first gun since I don't want to spend a fortune on maintenance. I saw one at a gun store for $700 but I don't know what to look for when buying an AK. Any tips and/or things to look out for?

>>30061919
Eh,,, I'm going to be honest, an AK isn't really the best first gun. It's a good first semi-auto rifle though. Personally I'd suggest you get yourself something in .22lr and get the basics down first.

>>30061919
Barrel is clean, its rivits are all in place and tight, no wobble from fruinture, threaded barrel, make sure its not a... IO inc, ras47. Test the feel of mag in and out, make sure its smooth.
Buy it , if it sucks you can eeplace it later

>>30051153
We have found a new method of propulsion! No more fossil fuels!

>>30061949
I have the basics of shooting down, and 5.56x45mm NATO feels like a love tap to me. I'm sure I can handle 7.62x39mm.

>>30061919
Avoid IO Inc, the RAS47, the C39v2, etc... Pretty much, just get a WASR and make sure the front sight base is in line with the rear sight, minimal magazine wobble, uh yeah, a bunch of stuff. Also just do what: >>30061949 said. Get a .22lr rifle and get familiar with shooting and terminology.

>>30061983
>I have the basics of shooting down,
Well obviously you don't.
>and 5.56x45mm NATO feels like a love tap to me.
Which it should, it's less than a love tap actually.
>I'm sure I can handle 7.62x39mm.
I'm sure you can too, it's still just an intermediate cartridge, doesn't mean that something chambered in it for you first gun is a good idea.

>>30060885
I meant figuratively to buy one, not to literally pull a trigger

What are the most devastating 7.62x39 rounds out there?

Looking for something for HD that feeds reliably.

>>30059761
if you have 800 bucks and havent caved into buying a shitty brand yet, keep saving for an arsenal

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>>30062478
If we're talking strictly FMJ, golden tiger yaws crazy fast and stays sideways. It has the largest bullet 762x39 comes with too, whereas other brands often have a shorter bullet with no boat tail.
It's happened wither I'm doing it on dirt(pic related), wood, or live critters.

alright /akg/ redpill me on the AK vs the AR.
>be me, amerifat who wants to buy his first real non-.22 gun
I have a budget of 1k ish, although I want the gun which will be cheaper longterm.

I don't know too much about which one to get, and kind of need guidance.

I want to save money, shoot things, and preferably get a neato sight for whichever I get, along with lots of boolets and mags.

Also, if I did get an AK, where to get a cheap one that'll work? I don't know shit about the ak world.

>>30063055
Just buy an AR if you're thinking about it like that. It's not "vs" thing.

>>30061641
Why is it an abortion?

>>30050593
well i want a wood vepr 12 now
where can you buy wood furniture?

>>30063055

You get an AK because you WANT an AK.

Sure, the ak has a far better surplus market, cheaper ammo, and the "ak reliability" meme. But the AR is more modular, more versatile, more expandable, more ergonomic, and definitely far more serviceable (compare changing an AK barrel with an AR barrel).

Ultimately one gets an AK for the same reason one gets a Harley Davidson. The mystique and cool factor, not because its better than the competition.

And this is coming from someone who owns and prefers AKs.

Not AK related but I'm looking at an SKS thats been bubba'd. No bayonet and camo painted stock Is 250$ worth it?

>>30063135
It's on an RPK reciever, so get some RPK handguards. top may require getting creative.
>>30063350
Point out the horseshit that's been done to it and offer $200.

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>>30061682
I'm waiting for the group buy to get magazines because I'll be damned if I'm paying $40 for any decent magazine. I don't like it either, but I'm willing to deal with it.

>>30061809
So simple yet so sexy.

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Mine

>>30063887

Can hardly wait for my bakies.

Shame the Russians never made plum mags in 7.62x39

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>>30064099
They did, just not very many of them

Feast your eyes

>>30064129

MUH DICK

>>30064129

How rare are those mags?

>>30064404
Concerning mags made prior to the year 2000, it's probably in the top 5 rarest Russian AK mags. To the extent that, if you had $1000 and were looking to buy, you probably still wouldn't be able to find one to buy.

>>30064085
check the handguard retainer lever

is sexy though

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hey gang, saw this pop up on facebook. Any idea what the heck it is? looks nice

>>30056663
candlestick holders comrade

>>30064926

looks like it might be a zastava m76. the receiver has that nice plum rust on it.

>>30064926
looks like an m76.

>>30064926
M76 I think

>>30051580
Sent email about a 74 RPK mag. You're doing god's work if you fulfill this.

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>>30064926
M76

>>30064960
How the hell DO they get that red/purple color?

>>30063127
Not OP. It's just an odd mix of features, but they are fielded and exported so who's to say. Nobody denies they are nice rifles, only complaints are weight balance and aesthetics. IMO they kind of lack soul, but those feels may be irrelevent you someone else.

>>30051580

When are you taking payment for the orders?

I've got to check my paypal balance but I should email you tomorrow at least for 1 5.45 RPK magazine and 2-3 plums.

>>30063540
>top may require getting creative
top what? or did you mean grip?

>>30062514

that's actually pretty neat.

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>>30065860
Thanks, we had these ginormous dirt lumps after a really wet(i think) year on the farm.
I took the opportunity to to some ballistic tests with them.
Here's one where the bullet hit a small rock. Once the jacket got ripped open, it just exploded.

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>>30065742
I'm guessing he meant the gas tube handguard.

The gas tube handguard is the same as any AK, but if you want to put an RPK lower on, you'll need to modify the rear lug on the handguard to fit it to a Vepr 12, as the RPK's is bigger than the standard Vepr 12.
>Left, RPK plum (before modification) right, regular Vepr 12

See what I mean?
Not sure if wood RPK handguards are like this, but I'd assume they are so be prepared to do some filing/sanding.

What's a better first ak, 74 or 47? The flatter shooting 5.45 and "posion bullet" aspect is appealing but a lot of people tell me the 47 is better overall.

>>30066303
People say the 7.62 is better because if you want to go hunting, you have much more established designs for .30 cal moving around mach 2. LOONG ogive .22 with little case protrusion? Fair bit for precision, but not so much for hunting.

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>>30050593

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muh usual rig. i have since swapped the standard pistol grip for the TDi and now matches the hanguard

>>30066447
Did your bad decision lose its front sight post or something?

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Hey guys I'm thinking of rattle canning my slr107 but I really feel like I would regret spraying over my beautiful plum furniture. So I've decided to take it off and spray. What colors do you think I should spray it's? I wanted to do some camouflage but idk what would go well with plum. Help please /k/.
Oh and to the anon looking at aks for a first gun. This Slr is my first gun and I had never shot since I was 13 when I shot 7.62x39. I felt underwelmed by how little my shoulder felt. I also bumpfired my first time to the range. Idk guys maybe I'm weird :/

>>30066303

well a 7.62 rifle gives you cheaper and easier to find magazines, vastly more ammo choice, and more aftermarket.

I prefer the 5.45 round myself, but for a first AK you should always go 7.62.

>>30066613

Yeah, it's frustrating how stupid expensive 5.45 mags are.

It's one of the few things that keeps me from adding an SLR-104FR to pair with my 107FR

Quick update, I'm taking the last few mag orders until the weekend, then I'll collect payment through PayPal for the "tools"you're buying

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What would be the appropriate muzzle brake for a 1988 themed rifle? I've currently got a surplus zigzag brake on it (not sure of country of origin, anybody know how to tell between Russian, Bulgarian, and East German?) but those were phased out in the early 1980s. Would a zigzag still be appropriate on a rifle in the late 80s, or should I be looking for a two piece smooth collar brake or just the current standard 74M series brake? How uncommon are the two piece smooth collars?

Matte plum furniture was produced from the mid 1980s up until around 1990, and my sling is 1988 dated, so all I need are a proper brake and a proper Russian bayonet instead of this (10) bayonet.

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>>30066780
>$25-$35
>Stupid expensive

>>30066808
Oh, and of course the Obzor is entirely anachronistic for the rifle, but I don't care it's neat and I like it. I'll just take it off and pretend it's a 74N when I want to fit the theme.

>>30066827

Compare to 14 dollar eastern european 7.62x39 surplus mags. Or 15 dollar PMAGs for the AR-15.

Then extrapolate out the cost when your'e purchasing 10 or 20 mags for your gun.

Even going off of your cost (russian plums are closer to 40 bucks), that's in the territory of a couple 1000-round cases of Golden Tiger worth in ammo saved. Or a fucking Obzor for that matter.

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>>30066884
>when you can afford 10 plums + 1000 Golden Tiger bulk rn

>>30066884
I've bought plenty of Russian plums in the $25-$35 range. NOS plums hit around $40, but just buy like new surplus mags for cheaper. I've got nearly three dozen 5.45 mags and the most expensive one I've ever bought was $45 for a new production (10) mag from Kvar when I first bought the rifle. I'd say about 80% of my mags were bought for around $30 and I'm really picky about condition (I'll resell ones that are too ugly for me after buying them). $30 a mag isn't bad at all.

>>30066927
>80% of my mags were bought for around $30

I should also note that about 80% of those mags under $30 were plums, too.

>>30066808
You want a faceted 2-piece brake. The ones that look hammer forged.

>>30066798

Awesome.

>>30066884
You sound like the kind of person who complains about every single type of pistol because they aren't $400 Glocks

>>30066808
Also. It's probably Bulgarian, just going off of probability. If it's Russian you should see a proof mark on the narrow rectangular cutout on the underside of the brake. I'm not sure how to differentiate between Bulgarian and EG but the Bulgarian is more common in the US so I'd bank on that.

>>30066798

What if I called them "vintage bakelite accessories"

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>>30066798
I think I already asked this but can't remember what you said. Will you be able to get 5.56 AK mags?

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>>30066467
Still there.

I have 400 rounds and two mags, should I start stocking up before the election season gun scare time hits?

Or should I buy some more AK'S, and in a couple months start buying more mags ammo and gear?

>>30067532
That must be nice man...
so far out there.....no one could bother me in a place like that....

>>30067591
Mags and ammo faggot. A guns no use if can't feed it.

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>>30059085
it's good, the AK community is turning into a circlejerk nowadays. The buy a wasr meme is happening for a reason. You should probably switch out wood though, I had a lot of fun refinishing surplus Romanian wood to make it more authentic.

>>30059211
This still exists but it's not awful, very slight on mine.

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>>30067677
I ordered steel mags a month ago and still don't have them. I wonder what it's like.

>>30067687
Jesus, where did you order from?

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>>30067694
AIM, UPS tried twice when I was out taking exams and sent it back immediately without any notification.

>>30067724
Jesus

>>30064085
James River folding 74???

>>30067751
>74
>in 7.62x39
wew

>>30067762
oh shit, didn't notice the curvature of the magazine. Got too caught up with finding out if they were quality rifles or not considering they are at a pretty good price.

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Wooden palmswell LHG has such a sex-factor with me. Inferior to the donkeydong in terms of application, but fuck does it look hot.

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>>30063350
If you want a garbage gun, sure. Get something like that really cheap and rehistoricalize it or get something unfucked.

I love shooting my SKS, it's been a while but I remember it being awsome to shoot 7.62x39 without the snappiness of an AK.

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Tell me about the AK 107. Saw vickers tactical do a video where this counter balanced rifle has no muzzle rise on full auto. I dont really like larry but damn his guns make me diamond.

>>30068314
>his guns
>name fag
Please leave.

>>30068314

>Tell me about the AK 107.

it's neat and you can't have one.

>>30068314
>Vickers

I fucking hate that faggot.

>>30068323
name fag is a fag but not a dick fag just a normal fag type of fag so fuck of u fag

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sup /akg/

Heres a cool website about AK bayonets I found
http://ak47bayonets.com/

Now gimme all the AK pepe's you got

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>>30068442

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Anyone familiar or have any experience with these Polish Steel Surplus mags?

AIM has some instock and I would like to start picking up some AK mags.

>>30068484
I was planning on getting some myself in a week or two. They're supposed to be the best

>>30068484
Polish AK stuff has long been held some of the best.

>>30066978
That's what I thought. About how often do Russian ones pop up on AKfiles?

>>30067092
And yeah I was 90% sure it was Bulgarian. There aren't any proof marks so I was 99% sure it wasn't Russian, but I know very little about East German AK stuff so I wasn't sure about that.

>>30068499
>>30068586
Works for me, thanks guys.

>>30068484
The polish mags and egyptian ones were the only ones that worked reliably in mine.

>>30068484
i bought a handful of those from AIM. i was concerned about some of the reports about rust inside of the magazines. nothing serious but rust is an issue. anyway, i received mine and they are in great condition inside and out. obviously, i can't promise youll get the same but i'd say its very good buy- if you dont mind the refinishing (which i dont)

>>30066604
dat mystery ranch.
i cant decide if i want the goruck gr1, mystery ranch or khard 30 from arc'teryx

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What's /akg/'s policy on altering military surplus?

I just finished filing down the little leather strap buttons on my Romy type 1, but I feel kinda bad messing with what is essentially a piece of history. What are /akg/'s thoughts on the matter?

>>30069852
I should add that I sanded them down because they had sharp little ends and would bite the shit out of my hand

Is sharpening a bayonet a retarded move?

>>30069938
yes. They aren't knives, they're bayonets.

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>>30055617
Absolutely beautiful.
Is this yours, anon?

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>>30070029

It appears to be a 1990's ChiCom 100 round side opening spring wound 7.62 drum.

The Slavs make a non side opening 75 round drum, but the clips on the side indicate it is a Chinese Communist side opener.

>>30070029
Sauce on video? It's for research purposes...

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>>30070052
Nah just a picture from my archive.

>tfw not skilled enough to buil ak's
>tfw have to decide very soon whether or not I'm gonna jump on buying a beat to shit vss that i probably can't fix if there's anything wrong with it
>why live

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>>30070086
Nope, it's only got 3 "rings".
It's likely a 75 round Romanian rear loader.
They used the chinese rear load design, but only make 75 rounders.
The Romys also made a russian design top loader.
>Here's my Romy 75 next to my Chinese 100.
Note the 4th "ring", it's the easiest way to tell if it's a 100.

>>30070086
Since the post you were replying to was moderated, this post >>30054790
Is what I was referring to here >>30070785

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>waited an entire week
>still no word from Circle 10 about the trigger retaining plate I ordered

How long does it take these chucklefucks to deliver?

>>30070776
VSS wut?

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>>30071102
This with beat to shit stock, 1 magazine, no optics and 500 rds. of 9x39 and a shitload of character marks.
No rust though, but still no idea how good the inside has held up or where it's been, so unless changing out a barrel or bcg is an easy thing to do, I'm not sure if I'm gonna be able to safely shoot this thing.

>>30071133
What country are you from that's has theses things for sale?

>>30071142
Belgium, a buddy in Russia asked me if I wanted to add it to my collection but I'm really not sure as I have no idea what is required to properly maintain such a thing.

>>30071150
You buy and post pics. I sure it can't be to fucked

>>30071133
>>30071150
Full autos illegal in Belgium

Everything about this is either extremely illegal or extremely bullshit

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>>30071162
I'm not gonna throw money on something like this without knowing more about it.
I asked him about a replacement bolt and barrel just to be sure.
I'm considering it but I can't find much information on these things. I'm assuming it's shot to shit, and if not, knowing my luck, I'll be the one to ruin it.
We don't have much gunsmiths here, and most are incompetent, so I only want things I can take care of myself.

>>30071177
Not if you're a registered collector.
You can walk into a gunstore, purchase a fully automatic MG42, file the paperwork, and the governor has to approve it.

>>30071189
How much is the vss going to cost ?

>>30071197
He wants 2 K but I'm pretty sure he's willing to do 1.5, but of course I'll give him 2K if he throws in a spare bolt and barrel if I figure out whether or not I can install that.

>>30071209
Just buy it for that price 2k ain't shit for a unique piece like that
>if it doesn't work cut it apart and ship to me in the USA

>>30071189
Your Russian friend isn't a gun store, how are you going to get a fully automatic suppressed rifle and 500 rounds of (armor piercing?) ammo across country lines, when that rifle is almost certainly Russian government property, and into your possession, legally? As far as I know there are no VSS or AS rifles in civilian hands (legally) in Russia or anywhere else.

If you can do it, obviously I strongly encourage you to do so. But I'm skeptical

>>30071221
Nah, I want to be able to take it to the range.

>>30071226
I don't think it should be a problem, he's gotten me other shit before as well and so far it all went clean.
I don't suppose anyone here has an english manual or something ?

>>30071189
Just saying, the Ruskies are notorious for keeping a tight lid on specialized smallarms, especially of the sniping/DMR variety. If your "buddy" is serious, he's asking for a BTR-through-the-front-door visit by the state.

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>>30071279
I pretty much doubt it as he specializes in exotic shit, he claims it's one that's being withdrawn from service.
He's got me all kind of weird shit before, he helped me get an L85A1 before and the transaction went completely fine so I have no reason to believe this would bring any problems.
Aside from of course, possibly the condition of this rifle that may have been abused.
I'm debating on this or just getting an AUG or AR 15 and I can't make up my mind if I can't learn about it.

>>30071301
>exotic
Illegal*

>>30071301
Pics L85 or your full of shit

>>30071331
It's all the way in the back of the safe, maybe next time I take it out.

>>30071316
I'm pretty sure both of us would have received a visit then by now.

>>30071344
This is starting to reek of bullshit now.

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>>30070981
I bought a 74 kit almost 2 weeks ago. Nothing yet.

>>30071405
Honestly I don't care what you think of me, I just hopped computer now, getting my shit and then I'm going to work, maybe in next /akg/ you might see a picture of an L85 without any context.
And if anyone has more info on VSS maintenance, I would appreciate it.

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>>30071464
>you might see a picture of an L85 without any context.
It better include a timestamp and enough photos to prove it's not a deact then.

>>30071478
It won't happen, and we'll never hear of this again.

New thread

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>>30050917
Shut the fuck up Sean

>>30066604
>>tfw no reply
:(

>>30064656
Its been corrected

>>30067751
Arsenal SLR-107F

>>30067158
That would work
>>30067177
Izhmash plums are $20 a piece

>>30067177
Whoops, read that wrong. I don't think so. I wouldn't think 5.56 isn't a big thing in the russian surplus market
I heard somewhere you can switch the followers on 5.45 mags to fit 5.56. Not sure how well that works