/meg/ - Communism edition

This was missing:

>Discord
https://discord.gg/0y3eBT2ji4rHI4TM
>IRC Channel
>implying anyone uses IRC
#MEG on Freenode
If you're on mobile look up AndroIRC for the app. Any questions, ask in the thread to get you set up.

Resources:

>Armyranger.com
For Ranger info, obviously.

>http://www.sealswcc.com/
SEAL/SWCC site with videos and fitness plans and a forum

>Shadowspear.com
All around SOF website. Great info and run by former/active members of every SOF unit. Mentor program. Also has forums for international SOF.

>Professionalsoldiers.com
For all Army SF info.

>http://www.corpsman.com
For Navy Corpsman info.

>http://www.leatherneck.com/forums/showthread.php?115180-MARSOC-Force-Recon
This is an all-inclusive thread for MARSOC/Force Recon stuff. Good site for Marines info too.

>http://www.uscg.org
For Coast Guard info. Good site, lots of vets able to answer questions.

>www.defencejobs.gov.au/
For info on the Australian Defense Force, and how you can shitpost on the world stage.

>https://www.airwarriors.com/community/
Naval Aviator forum with info on Navy OCS as well

>>30009553
Does 11b/13d get a lot of time to finish up online schooling?
Want to use that juicy GI bill if I go in, and I realize that sweeping and dicking around in the field doesn't mean shit in real life

>>30009553
I was going to make a thread but I had no clue how to get the pastepin stuff.
Anyway. Im shipping in June as a 35G. If I can recall, I get to make a list of bases I want to be stationed at after AIT. I know it doesn't mean much as far as if I'll get them or not. But what bases would anyone recommend? Id love to go to AK but Ive heard a lot of negative things about the actual base there. Any good west coast (fuck California though) or northeastern bases I should list?

Looking for info on aviation radar tech life in the Marine Corps.

>>30009561
>those sof links

none of you fags have what it takes, what a joke

>>30009699

How pathetic is your life that you need to start fights with 16 year old neckbeards in meg?

>>30009699
>I don't have what it takes to be a college dropout welfare queen
What ever will I do?

>>30009699
shadowspear is fucking awesome, and there's plenty of SOF support roles

>>30009553

Have you guys seen this? For the people looking at branching Army are you training for the new OPAT or the old APFT?

>>30010243

What are the best enlisted intelligence jobs? Or are they all shit?

>>30009647

No, those aren't the jobs I'd pick to do college while you're in.

Also the GI Bill is only rarely an "in-service" benefit, it's mostly for after you're out. While you're in the military you usually use other benefits like TA or free CLEPs.

>>30010308

Depends what you like. Cyber-y ones are the most marketable, but depending on your strengths being a linguist or image analyst might be something you're better at.

HUMINT tends to be a different animal, but since we're not deploying right now I'd generally not recommend it.

thinking of enlisting in the army. Being a decent student and all around decent for computers should i try to go for some analyst job

>>30010596
I have no experience with computers. Would you still recommend anything cyber?

>>30011087
If you're interested and willing to learn, sure. Better love driving a desk though.

>>30011437
What does a cyber intelligence job entail? I am an attentive writer with a decent attention span.

Going to the hotel Sunday, shipping out Monday

Where's my ft Sill bros??

>>30009974
Nigger, most of us have been, are going to, or will be going to college.

Literally what

>>30010291
well fuck.

>>30010291
AFTP. I actually did the new OPAT today as part of a "study" though. My recruiter told me it had no standing on me. I am in DEP though i don't know if that matters.

only one guy passed the jumping test by those standards. Deadlifts were a joke, ball toss was a joke, running was sad to see considering some of those guys were leaving in a few weeks. That jump is gonna fuck a lot of people over.

>>30011851
If you get hurt and are still there in september i'll see you.

>>30012240
When are you shipping?
Also in DEP, trying to figure out if this is something I need to do.

>>30010308
Counter-intel (35L) is literally the best intel job and one of the best jobs overall. If you want to do super fucking cool shit, go for that.

>>30012276
September.

>>30012188

Bruh, you know that less than 40% of vets even go to college? Of that 40% like 35% end up finishing whatever program they signed up for. I'd love to know what the stats are concerning what types of degrees vets get, most I know of go for political science or kinesiology.

Can we not even pretend like people who join the military are intelligent? Anyone who has served knows that every branch is 90% full retard.

>>30012240
I can NOT jump that far. Holy fuck.

>>30012319
Oh, sweet Christmas. Shipping in August. I hope it doesn't apply to me; I waited months for an infantry slot.

The APFT isn't being replaced by the OPAT, just supplemented.

>>30012248
I will be in AIT by then. if you are still browsing these threads in early August I'll tell you all about it

>>30012278
when/if I re-up I might reclass to this. depends on how shitty the next 4 years are.
>originally wanted 35M option 40
>wanted to reclass to 35L after E-5
>wanted to join ISA or CIA

but then I grew up. I'm not Jason Bourne or Michael Westen. Would be a cool job, but I should have started when I was 17.

>>30012320
They're not only stupid at the enlisted men level but they have shite careers when they get out.
You go from being a Green Beret to being an assistant manager at Radioshack.

>>30012467
if you're not contracting or a DoD instructor, you're doing it wrong. however a lot of SF that do 20+ are on partial disability and full retirement, usually by their midforties. they can afford to have shit jobs

>tfw an ex 5th group door kicker was helping me with my running shoes yesterday at the shoe store
>happiest guy i've seen in a long time

>>30012467

I always contend that if the military wasn't a thing most of the people I met while I was in would be flipping burgers.

The entitlement is getting pretty out of control these days especially now that facebook generation are in the military. Faggots flashing their CAC everywhere they go trying to get discounts, faggots making gofundme accounts because they blew all their money on gundam models and video games...

People are really starting to hate vets all due to the kids who noticed that the deployments have stopped but the bootlicking has yet to joined and started fucking it up for everyone.

>>30012523

I agree.

I just got out of the private sector and got an afmc software development gig. I'm getting $7k/mo after taxe and tsp to make simple business development applications.

>>30012588
>People are ass
>The new generation sucks
A regular fucking Aristotle here.

What do other people put in the motivational statement in the APSR?

Mine reads more like a cover letter for a job so far, and I'm not sure if that's what they want. My recruiter talked a lot about putting in 'what being in the military means to you.'

out of curiosity what would happen to a person that would turn 29 while waiting for a spot to become available in his chosen marine mos?.let's say 03xx infantry.

Which has the more interesting mission set: Special Tactics or Special Forces?

Slooooooooow ass thread guise.

>>30013024
GBNT

>>30012759
Lel

>>30012348
Work on your long jump every single fucking day anon
I waited my whole god damn life for that sweet sweet infantry slot

Out of curiosity, are you shopping Aug 22? I may or may possibly not be then

>>30012240
How much was the DL? Did they actually make you use the trap/hex bar instead of a barbell? How heavy was the ball and how far was the toss?
>>30012320
>>30012467
>>30012588
You turds are hanging out with the wrong people then. My friend got a 90 asvab. Got out after 4 with his GI bill and is currently getting his Electrical engineering degree from UNC. I got a 95 and was getting my degree from PITT. I left cause college is boring but my point still stands. The majority of people are borderline retarded but we certainly all arent.

>>30013726
I am, in fact, shipping late August. (That's assuming I don't have to do all this extra bullshit. Training to jump farther is ridiculous.)

>>30014046
We might be at OSUT together, anon
A guy in the MEG thread is shipping in September and says it doesn't apply to him, I figure we'll be okay

>>30014072
My friend...
THis is the /meg/ thread.
We likely will be.
Want to share your last name on this anonymous message board so I can keep an eye out for you?

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>>30014158

>>30014158
Well golly gee, anon, that sounds smart!
But since my last name is odd, I can even get away with it
Hyphenated last name, it's two conjoined
E-M are last name(s) initials

>>30014231
>mexicant

>>30014231
Are you flying out of a western state? I think we're flying out of the same MEPS.
Fuck it, AZ here.

>>30014262
Actually no
My family was all fucking weird with an adoption at some point
Long story short
We're all Krauts and Scotts, but since I'm not a muh heritage fag I don't really care
As long as I'm white :^)

>>30014289
Lorain County, OH flying from Cleveland

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What branch has the most benefits?

Also which have the best places to get stationed?

>>30014343
Literally all pay and benefits are the same. Maybe you're asking about perks of being in a certain branch?

>>30014343
Depends what you mean by benefits. But most would say chair force is the easiest lifestyle.

>>30014356
Yeah, that

>>30013944
DL is 160 and you pass. Hex bar. Everyone passed. One guy got up to 320 to show off his balls and we ran out of weight.

Ball toss im not sure what passing was. Everyone passed though.

Beep test and long jump were the killers. Lots of guys couldn't run for too long and like I said only one guy met the long jump standards. But we're DEPers so with a little PT im sure the average will increase.

>>30014484
2kg ball

>>30014484
I just cant believe the DL is so light and yet the long jump is so far. The difficulty is way out of whack.

>>30012588
Bro take advantage of military discounts, you'll miss them once you're out.

>>30012588
Actually the worst part about getting out is having to pay civilian prices for booze. Ugh

>>30014516
We're being trolled friend
The requirements are not as high, and it's for 'new recruits' (read, pre-MEPS and at MEPS fags) and it's not rolling out until at least June

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I am gay, in the army do you take showers together? I'm afraid I might get a boner around all the fit boys and be made fun of. I think I've been watching too much porn...

>>30014516
We're being trolled friend
The requirements are not as high, and it's for 'new recruits' (read, pre-MEPS and at MEPS fags) and it's not rolling out until at least June

In fact, no one but TRADOC knows the new physical requirements, because it's still in testing

>>30014573
>>30014611
Im gonna be in DEP soon, and june is 10 days away you realize. But you are saying the numbers will change?

>>30014356
>Literally all pay and benefits are the same.
Not when you take bonuses, rate of promotion, and other intangibles into account.

If you go into the Navy as a nuke, at the end of the first year, you'll have a LOT more money than someone that went infantry in the army.

>>30014682
Very true but quality of life is very different. Theres positives and negatives to each branch and each job/rate/mos.

>>30014644
>numbers will change
Those are fake numbers. We don't even know the numbers. Relax.

>>30014611
Not even a MEPS thing. We litterally did it in an abandoned building next to the recruiting station. All of us there had already gone to and passes meps. The recruiter flat out told us it wouldn't have any impact on us and we'd get our MOSs no matter how we did.

>>30014757
>>30014767
Appreciate it fellas.
>We literally did it in an abandoned building
Super sketchy

>>30014819
Budget cuts man. Everyone had a good time with it though so it wasnt time wasted.

>>30014682
Nigger were talking basics obviously, don't get cunty with flight pay, sea pay, hdp and the like

>>30015072
But if someone is asking specifically about which position gets the most pay, you obviously have to take how likely it is to get those into account to give him any sort of answer.

It's like asking which car is the cheapest to drive and you say 'it doesn't matter, gas is the same price no matter what,' while ignoring miles per gallon, insurance, and maintenance costs.

>>30015158
Sure, but the guy just asked what branch had the best "perks" not which position gives you the highest special pay.

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>>30011851
>Sill
You poor fucker
But hey, at least you won't be stuck there july-december, sweating your balls off and freezing them off.

>>30015502
That's the majority of posts the army does basic at.

>>30015502
it will probably still suck in june and july and the first part of August
>then i go to Texas for 27 fucking weeks

>>30015653
35N?

I'm with a grunt unit in 29 palms if you have any questions about either.

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same here to be honest

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>>30017442
meant for >>30014585

I hear about hate towards officers coming from college/military academies. How true is that and what else should I know? I'm going to be one from USMMA in a few years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SUWK_pWrbw

Compared to the corporate world how meritocratic is the military in general?

>>30016932
How many times have you thought about suicide?

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Wtf do STOs (AF - Special Tactics Officer) do bois?

I'm getting mixed signals.

>>30017573
No more than towards any officer.

>>30016892
yessir

>>30009655
You get fuck all of a voice in where you will go.

Welcome to the Army

>>30012278
You also have to be E-4 with BLC and a language, you can't just go right in to counter intel

source: I am a E-4 with BLC and a language about to make the switch

>>30019007

Do they actually require a language to drop your packet now? Last I heard you just had to have a solid DLAB score.

>>30018327

My understanding: everything. They lead special tactics teams which consist of all of AFSOC's flavors, but also get sent on missions as part of TACPs with the other SOF groups, so you direct air support while doing what they do.

doing my last minute prep, ft. sill guy again. leaving in a couple of days. i have this "shit, i'm forgetting something" feeling. is there anything that I should do that I might not have considered before I leave or something I should bring?
>bag packed
>got sharpies
>preaddressed envelopes with stamps
>got nice running shoes just in case they allow me to use them
>copies of all my important information
>deactivated facebook
>put copy of my sf86 and extra references in the drafts of my email in case OPM needs something
>index card with addresses and phone numbers in my wallet
>cleaned out wallet so its just ss card and drivers license and bank card and $80

cant think of anything else

>>30019007
so you dont get E5 after completing BLC?

>>30020078
Travel size toiletries?
Civvies?

>>30020096

It's one of several requirements to make E5 now, you don't get it just for graduating.

>>30020271
yeah got the travel stuff, i don't know what civ clothes to bring other than the ones I'll wear to meps/airport

>>30020429
>
well you got the basics. I brought some other stuf to basic but i went to lackland.

>>30020938
thanks, yeah i just dumped the bag and repacked it just in case, looks good

>>30020078
>>30020271
>>30020429
>>30020938
>>30021536
Why the fuck does the army make you bring stuff? Are they just cheaping out or whats the logic behind it. I was Navy and we sent everything home the minute we got there.

What is everyone's pushup routine? I'm topping out at about 60 in 2 minutes. Any tips on how to actually do the pushups? As many as you can quickly then rest with arms straightened? Or slow and steady, one per second?

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>>30022733

>>30022221
they give you a packing list which I'm guessing is for reception before we get assigned stuff and can go to the PX

>>30023068
Interesting im just confused cause the navy doesnt do that. I got there at 10pm and we got naked and they gave us clothes and we put everything we had on in a box and shipped it home. Why does the army do it as opposed to what i did? Do the marines and AF make you bring stuff as well?

>>30023093
because the army is bigger and less gay than the navy

>>30023240
>less gay than the navy
Making you bring your own stuff makes it less gay? Id say its the other way around famalam. Besides i was in the navy, it aint that gay. Semi gay but not as bad as everyone says.

>>30023260
>first thing we did was got naked

ok "famalam"

>>30023306
You been in the military? Im guessing no cause you end up being naked infront of people quite alot.

>>30015653
Are you me? I'm shipping out to Sill sometime in July and then spend 4 months of AIT in Texas

who here /waiting to graduate college/ before enlisting?

>>30023934
why would you want to do that

>>30023934

No. I'm fucking commissioning like a sane person who wants to do a particular job.

>>30024103
>commissioning
>particular job
oh hoh hoh hoh
>>30023942
>why would you want to do that
My GPA isn't good enough for med school right out of the bat. So I'll spend my 4 years as a Ranger Medic and then apply.

>>30024186

A particular job... where I'm doing something different but interesting each day.

Honh honh honh.

>>30023934
Yo. Only have a year left so I may as well go for that automatic Specialist (E-4) starting bump.

>>30024256
When you graduate homie? May 2017 for me.

>>30023888
I'll be finishing up bct early August so hit me up in AIT

>>30024284
Same. I'm taking the summer off of school to work and then it's 2 more semesters of class.

Make sure before you ship out that you enjoy time with your pets; you may not get back home to see them again. Between leaving for basic to having a chance to get home is 11 months for me and I didnt realize that when i left in january i would never see my dog again.

>>30025224
damn dude

>>30025224
>cut my life into pieces

>>30025224
I know that feel. I was atleast able to see mine during boot leave. When I was at MCT one of my dogs died, followed by the other dying while I was at MOS school. It didn't fully hit me until I came home on leave and just felt my house feel empty without them.

I really feel bad. I just up and left them at home, only to come back and leave them again.

>>30024204
Powerpoint powerpoint powerpoint

>>30026229
Lel

>>30025070
Noice. I'm taking 12 hours this summer, 22 in the fall and 18 in the spring. Kill me.

So /k/. First time posting on this board but it's really the best place to ask.

So I'm 18, last year of highschool. I was previously thinking about going to university after a gap-year and getting a degree in Physics working towards Geophysics, because I'm smart enough to/get good enough marks and stuff, but lately ( past 4-5 months or so) I was thinking of joining the military.
What are the pros and cons of it? I've read up on it a bit, and I really think I'd like it better than sitting around studying shit that I'm only doing because I'm good at it.

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>>30025224
I'm gunna cry

>>30012320
ROTC and service academies would like a word with you, friend.

Have peanut allergy, feels bad
most branches say no but which can i get a waiver for??
Is it just the Army and thats it or will i get DQ'd from all of them, is there hope in the horizon

>>30025224
I tried so hard and got so far....

but in the end

it doesn't even matter....

>>30019881
Sounds badass, but everyone saying its a desk job now, It's the CCTs that go out and do the work with SOF

I don't know what to believe

I want to get my degree and pursue it though, that fucking scarlet beret "first there", "that others may live"

HNNNNNNNNNNNNG

>>30019007
You don't need a lang.

Source: read the packets and such, also an E4, multiple languages recorded on DA 330, no one gives a fuck about your ERB

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>He retired as a senior enlisted man
>His pension is $30,000
>He fought tooth and nail for this incredibly small amount of money
>he spent the last half of his career as a "personal assistant" for another grown man

Why do you view an enlisted job as a career?

AFSOF is much more limited version of Navy Special Warfare, MARSOC or Army SOF. They only exist to support airframes and all the other services have their own air strike support units.

Its the easiest way to get into the SOF community due to lower regs.

>>30029844

>STO
>Desk job

Kek. You're hearing that from stupid people, such as...

>>30030492

>all of this shit
>so much wrong in this statement
>It must be deliberate

Actually the CCT pipeline is the hardest. Let's go over this:

>Rangers: Infantry + who can't swim
>SEALs: Rangers who swim but somehow lost the ability to take airfields
>Delta: Rangers+ who still can't swim
>MARSOC: Off-brand SEALs
>DEVGRU: Off-brand Delta who drink a lot, learning to swim has weird side effects
>SF: Legitimate SOF, do FID missions in addition to occasional direct action.
>CCT: Does everything the others do while calling in air support or setting up covert airfields. Pulls a little of everyone's duty. Can both swim AND take airfields.
>SOW: Goes with STTs to do weatherman stuff, essentially but overlooked.
>PJ: When the other shitheads get in too deep the PJs go bail them out of the firefight, get them to the lz, resuscitate them, and drag them home.

Is it common to have second thoughts about enlisting? I'm not in the DEP yet, but my recruiter is sending me to MEPS soon. I was so excited to enlist but now that I'm actually doing it, I'm having cold feet.

>>30031196
i was fine throughout the whole process, but i'm shipping tomorrow and have been incredibly nervous/ sad all day

>>30031294
Why nervous/scared? You got in so you got this.

>>30031389
Not scared really. More like am I making the right choice kinda thing.

>>30009553
Swearing in as a Navy CTN spook tomorrow. Wish me luck that my bipolar mother doesn't flood the room with spaghetti when she tries to make this about her somehow.

>>30031402
Make sure you come back and greentext the story for us.

>>30031401
Are you going in as an enlisted man?

>>30031401
Bro you are going to serve the United Fucking States and get some college tuition, be around bad bitches, get ripped, and get discounts and shit for the rest of your life. And a paycheck. And healthcare. You better never ask yourself if you made the right choice. Thats how i look at it anyway i still got a month before i go.

>>30031428
Yep.

>>30031412
If anything happens I will

>>30031443
You're right. I need to follow through.

>>30031389
its just dumb emotions, i just have to get it out of my system so i can be a hard motherfucker at boot camp. just said goodbye to the family, just got dropped off at the recruiters office. I'm ready for this. its not sadness anymore, now I'm excited for this adventure

Can an officer who makes it into SOF reclass back out after their time in? Because at some point paperwork is paperwork.

>>30031196
I ship in two and a half weeks. But I can relate. Dont get me wrong im excited to join but sometimes get those "maybe I should have done something else" moments.

>>30032746
what branch? if its af dont worry the first night/week sucks, well so does the rest but its not bad. its just a daily routine for 7 weeks. its boring and annoying but not that bad.

finally made it to meps hotel, no roommate, and there's a wedding downstairs
>should have brought nicer clothes so i could crash it

>>30033748
Meps hotel on sunday? what? I went the Monday before I left back in january

Just signed an AF ATC contract. My entire family is being bitches and saying ITS THE MOST STRESSFUL JOB YOU CAN HAVE OMGYDIDUPICKTHAT? How hard could it be?

>>30033785
Not the same guy, but this is my second time getting to the hotel on Sunday.

>tfw I've been waiting seven months for this fucking surgery to heal to MEPS standards

What's the normal cutoff age for enlisting?

I'm 23 and have been outta work for almost 2 years, I'm almost half-tempted to just join the fucking Army instead of getting my shit together.

>>30034251
You are well within the limits. I think it's around 30 or something.

>>30034251
~35 I believe

>>30034160

It is stressful as fuck, but when you get out you have a six figure job lined up.

>>30033748
found out its actually a fashion show but it looks like a call girl convention

>>30034251
its 35 for army, 39 for AF

>I'm 29

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Sill bro! You excited? See you tomorrow!

>>30034530
Too bad you're not allowed to have anyone else in your room

>>30035424
they don't check or anything, but i ended up getting a roommate unfortunately

USAF programmer reporting.

I hate /meg/ and generals... in general

but fuckit I can drink for the next hour and answer questions if any of yall have any.

FYI, cyber is good, jobs are cushy, degrees in ComSci and security are good, tech school sucked but its whatever

Can answer questions about Cyber field and security clearances and shit

>>30035561
Im from St Louis and the lady in charge of everyone does a check at 10pm usually. Both times I went to meps my roommate was weird as hell

>>30033734
Army intel

>>30035608
Did you go to keesler for tech?

>>30035625
yes, all 3D0XX AFSC's do. Weather, Radar, Admin, and a few others go there too

>>30035633
>>30035625
Keesler is actually a cozy little base, but after 3 weeks the allure of tech school wears off, and you realize how gay having formations so often and getting babysat by NCO's are

but whatever, that was a while ago, getting operational was great

>>30034251
>
I was 22 when I shipped to Lackland, turned 23 halfway through BMT.
No big deal, my dorm chief was a 32 year old.

>>30034251
My linguist training in Korean is like i think the 2nd or 3rd most stressful job in the AF as a 1A8 and trust me, its already almost driven me insane a couple times. Good luck m8

>>30035633
>>30035652
I just signed for ATC and im going to be going there as well. (I ship for basic aug 30)
What kind of stuff is there to do in your free time on/around the base?

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>>30035086
oh god. Thinking about being in your position again, except I shipped to the AF instead of army, makes me depressed. Basic is no fun. good luck m8 and see you in 10 weeks i think

>>30035086
calm before the storm; enjoy your last night of being a civilian. You wont be one again for years and years to come.

>>30035689
ATC and Programming are probably the two hardest schools there, expect to be stressed as hell, it blows. Just hunker down and deal with it.

There is a decent mall, and a bunch of casinos within 10 minutes of base. Also a good vape shop right outside of the gate. New Orleans and Pensacola are both within 2 hours, but without a car or a friend with a car you have to go as a group and split cab fare

not a ton to do in biloxi itself outside of what i listed. there IS a nice beach but the water has a bunch of shitty bacteria in it so its HIGHLY advised not to swim in it unless you want to risk losing a limb

>>30035608

How is AF SIGINT? People from other branches rip on it, but people from other branches hate the Air Force in general (cause they anus).

>>30035610
our lady is cool as fuck, i had a cig with her last month, pretty sure i could have hit it
>if i was in to 50+ yo jewish women
>>30035692
>>30035713
I'm all nerves, after our 2030 briefing I'm going to run until i can't anymore. once i get off that plane tomorrow, iceman terminator mode for 10 weeks. I'll be back to tell you all how fucking shit Oklahoma in the summer is

>>30035767
its all the same shit and what you do varies unit to unit, regardless of branch

Fusion Analyst is one of out lesser known SIGINGT jobs, they work with emissions, and if I didnt have my job and couldnt be aircrew, it would be on my short list of things to do

Airborne ISR would also be gucci

I work with the E3 myself, but have friends on RC135's, its neat shit

People hating on other branches either:
A) are autistic and dont know the first thing about what they are spouting
B) arnt actually mil and just shitposting
C) are mil and are told X by people even though Y is reality

I have friends in all branches, two of whom are officers, in jobs ranging from pilots to arty to SF to GM in USCG. Each branch has some perks over the others and none are a bad choice if you want to go mil, it just depends on what you actually want to do as a job. Some of us do shit better than others who do the same shit. I'm still jealous as fuck about coastie bro but my job is neat and cushy as fuck, so its whatever

>>30035858

ISR seems interesting, though I don't know how trigger happy they are with the kinetic list, and I wouldn't want to lose any intelligence assets to them.

I know of at least one DEA agent who flipped shit when he found out that one of his informants in Afghanistan was placed on the kinetic list and he had to arrest the guy or let him get droned out of existence.

>>30035608
Tell me about 1B4

I know people say that the military fucks up your body over a period of time, particularly the joints. But is that mainly targeted towards infantry, or does the same go for other roles as well?

>>30035908
as an ISR operator, you wouldnt have shit to do with the list. You just gather intelligence in various forms and pass it up the chain for decisions to be made. Its the chain that fucks everything up lmao

but ISR op's dont just find a cell signal shithole province and add it to a list. Thats what analysts are for

>>30035938
1B4 is cyber warfare. I know a few NCO's who are either 1B4 or about to go train into it.

You can only retain into it, its like MTI's, MTL's, and OSI, not available to someone newly joining

The vast majority of 1B4's are former programmers, but most of the rest still come from cyber, whether it be surety, ops, or trans

I cant tell you a lot about what they do that you cant already find simply because i'm not sure how much I know about what they do I'm allowed to relate to yall

anyways, there are two main 1B4 jobs, offensive and defensive cyber warfare. officer equivalent is 17S

they do a lot of network intrusion and the like, and also just beat the shit out of various base and DoD networks to find vulnerabilities. They are our hackers.

some of them do Red team exercises from base to base to test security, last one they did here they basically got together in town, and made a plan to get onto base with no ID, get into a specific building with no line badge or code, and get onto SIPR without their account or pw

one guy I know has a BOLO poster with his face on it from an exercise a few years back

overall 1B4 can either be a really fucking cool or really monotonous job depending on unit you get stuck with. Some do work with NSA, some do other shit. It varies. The field is expected to grow in the coming years too

also getting out with the experience as a 1B4 and the certs you acquire along the way will set you the fuck up for a private sector security related job

>>30036048

Yeah, that's my worry.

>be HUMINT/SIGINT/IMINT guy
>have an in
>pass intel up the chain
>they put an agent or someone creating a vulnerability on the kinetic list
>blow up my source
>"What the fuck guys?"
>"lol go find another one"

Guys i ship out soon to basic training wat do?

>>30036073
Assuming the chain isn't fucking retarded that shouldn't happen. But it can and sometimes does.

>>30036108
Don't be a bitch and don't draw attention. Shits not that long

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I work out every day and I get straight A's in school. My fear about basic training isn't about my capabilities to fail; my fear is that I will get booted for being too tough. If the drill sergeants try bossing me around, I fear my subconscious fighting skills in karate (I'm a black belt) will take over and I will strike and injure a drill sergeant. How can I control the fighting force that has been instilled in me? Since I have straight A's and am already a fighting force, can I get a waiver from my recruiter so I don't have to attend basic training?

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>>30036165
Jk faggot

>>30036176
How old is this pasta? Pretty sure I've seen it at least twice before.

Getting stationed in Fort Richardson Alaska, what should I expect? I'm interested in what there is to do there. I'm pretty open minded about trying new things.

>>30036190
Thw no ocp

I'm fucking tired of ABU's

>>30030698
LOL good descriptions, my man

That's definitely what I want to do. No desk job, I want to get in the field for a little while and perhaps make a career in the military which is why I'd rather commission and enter the pipeline as STO.

Not many resources of first hand experience around though, since 90-95% of students wash out of the CCT pipeline.

I have about 3 years to prepare. Gonna start rucking and swimming soon.

>>30036321

I dunno about rucking since if you do that shit wrong it can fuck you up. I've got 2-4 years myself, depending on if I want that engineering major too, but I'm going to start with swimming and just hope that general physical fitness will carry me through rucking.

>>30036355
checked.

You engineering major too? Electrical over here.

True about the rucking, I've read that if you can run a 6-minute mile, that physical aptitude will go a long way when it comes to rucking.

I wonder why STOs or CCTs dont have a mythical status like other SOFs

Their pipeline is the most intense, washout rate is incredible

Anybody have an opinion on CCTs/STOs from within the armed forces?

>>30036048

I want to be a military hacker. Is it worth going Air Force and then retraining into it, or should I just join the Navy/Army because they have entry level hacking jobs?

>>30036488
You won't be getting to do cool shit for years regardless. Any choice is a good choice and OCP ACU's are way better than ABU's, but idk if army cyber units wear them.

It really doesn't matter what branch if you're getting into cyber but in my experience usaf units are all lax as shit

>>30036481

I'm a 3/2. 3 years on a psychology/biochem-genetics major, 2 for engineering after I've done my math pre-reqs during the 3. I'm looking at app math & science.

I think it's because they maintain a combination of good cover and obscure position.

>>30036481
Probably because there's not a lot of movies portraying their actions like there are green berets, delta, seals etc

Pj's and CCT definitely got one of the hardest if not the hardest, pipelines out there.

>>30035561
my roommate says "i think i want to go SEAL." i feel bad for him, there's no fucking way

>>30037000
Did he not do a little bit of research before signing a contract? Probably not cut out to be a SEAL anyway.

>>30037659
doesn't seem like it. seems like he watched american sniper and went to a recruiter

>>30036678

I don't really care about uniforms. What about Navy?

>>30035677
ive always pitied you poor bastards in korean

>>30034450

Here's your reminder that there aren't nearly enough six-figure ATC jobs to support all the former military ATCs that think they're going to get out and land them.

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>23, college degree, interested in joining air force officer program or just enlisting
>marijuana possession misdemeanor that was expunged from my record when i was 17

>mfw told by multiple air force recruiters this bans me from enlistment

yes yes i know degeneracy and all that but what the fug lmao

>>30041034

The military just reads that as "convicted of a drug crime". They don't care how old you were or whether it was expunged.

>>30009553
hi i quit my job and life is going no where marines or amy

>>30041052

does that apply to all branches or just the air force? information online indicated I could get a waiver but the recruiters didn't mention that.

>>30041076
try not air force
muhreens is kind of stringent about it for officers too btw

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>>30041090
Navy it is then like my father and grandfather before me. Thank you senpai.

>>30041066
lol you can't get yourself into the Marines, but it's cute that you think it's an option for you.

>>30041102
y

Is there even any reason to join the army instead of the Marines other than being too weak/and or a massive pussy?
It seems to me that marines are literally just 11Bs that actually train hard and are beasts in the field and street

>>30041066
>no where
>not "nowhere"
Marines it is then

>>30042320
I don't really want to be an 11b, so there's that.

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>>30009553

> tfw duped in shipping for basic June 5th
> only 2 weeks to get my drivers license
> not enough time to plan a going-away party (have family in other states)

Anyone else going to Lackland June 5th?

going to the airport now, I'll let you guys know how bct was in August

Anybody combat medics?
Or, "health care specialist" in the army?

>>30042883
I know that combat medics go to Camp Bullis, TX

I was there for a few weeks for Security Forces training

>>30042883
>Anybody combat medics?
>Or, "health care specialist" in the army?
Make sure you're fit enough to get a option 40 or airborne or you'll hate your life. That's what I'm doing.

>>30042704
Don't sweat it. It's not like you're joining the real military. The Air Force is exactly like a civilian job getting paid by the government. They don't even wear the same uniforms. They're fucked up seven ways from Sunday.

I think they offer spa days, wine tasting events and free bistro brunches throughout your basic training.

>>30042938
Going to fort Sam Houston

>>30043026
And yeah I want to do that, what would I hate about life? Are you saying if I wasn't in an airborne or ranger unit I would not deploy? Because that's obviously what I want to do.

Going to fort Sill for BCT and 13B AIT in a week
Can anybody tell me when we get unit assignments? Do you get a preference or is it random? Will being good at PT give me any sort of advantage in getting into a good unit?

>>30043220
>13b
Why?
Are you brain ded?

>>30043176
You'll actually be challenged. And yes you're more likely to deploy. And you'll get to go through SOCM if you are a ranger

>>30043369
yes

>>30043380
>SOCM
and that is?

>>30043220
1/79 is where you want to be

and I'm heading to sill tonight, plane's leaving in half an hour, maybe I'll see you around

>>30043528
>1/79
what did he mean by this?
And ill be the guy with the /k/ patch on his bag

>>30043527
Special operations combat medic course. It'll turn you into one of the best paramedics in the world.

My plan is to graduate college, be a Ranger for 4 + years, go through SOCM, med school and then do my residency in emergency medicine.

>>30042320
Well, there's a chance to actually deploy and do something with that training if you join the army.
But for impressing a certain type of girl? Marines all the way.

>>30043676
Marines deploy more than army though

>>30043676
>>30042320
>impressing a certain type of girl
Please kill yourself. Literally never do anything for women.

>>30043695
A lot of humanitarian stuff

>>30043702
t. autistic virgin

Is grunt life really as bad as /k/ says?

>>30043860
Literal cuck. Keep wasting your life trying to impress woman faggot.

>>30043951
>being mad that I slay mad poon
>calling me a faggot
no my friend, it is you who is the faggot

>>30043990
Youre lying. We all know it and so do you. You arent even in the military so why are you here.

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>>30043935
I fucking loved my life in the infantry. Because I suffered more, endured more and accomplished more than anyone in any other MOS, it made me very proud.

>>30043695
I like making up facts on the internet too.

>tfw was happier while in military
>tfw civie life stress is too different

>>30044147
It's not going to get any better. You'll merely get used to the sucky civilian shit. And civilians suck so fucking bad. You can't trust them for shit. And many of them will stab you in the back. Fucking ruthless. I went from fighting a violent enemy to fighting a passive enemy.

>>30044147

There's a joke: marine is talking to his friend who is a recruiter. He says "Fuck the marines, I hate the marines, when they let me out tomorrow I'm never fucking coming back man!" His friend laughs and says okay. So he's released, and he goes. A few weeks later he comes back into the recruiters office. His friend is surprised to see him and asks him why he's here. His friend says he's there to re-enlist. The guy asks him why. He says "Well, yes, the marines suck, but out there in the civilian world? Nobody is in charge out there!"

>>30044013
Im in the airforce you fucking retarded gun bunny
Think twice before you mouth off to someone with twice the IQ you have, grunt

>>30044299
13 and 11Bs geting royally B T F O!!

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>>30044299
13 BUTTS on suicide watch
11 BROOMS WRECKT

>>30044299
>>30044319
>>30044391
Fag youre in the chair force which is the gayest and weakest branch so im not really suprised. PLus I was Navy not a grunt, OS2 SW and I got a 95 on my asvab so please suck my dick loser.

>>30044494
>he thinks 95 on high
>he thinks the navy isnt gay
you realize the airforce is the future, right?

My liaison convinced me to go 11B over 19D and 12B. I joined up to go shoot things and sleep in the dirt, did I make the right call?
Also I'll be at Benning in January, anyone else gonna be there?

>>30044660
>you realize the airforce is the future, right?
How do I know youre autistic. Mate the ariforce is the whipping boy of all the branches dont try an change that. The Navy was great and in 4 years i deployed twice and saw more countries than you can name. And my 95 is higher than you so please keep crying and samefagging. Also have fun spending your whole career strugglign to advance cause of how shit the chair force is.

>>30043586
You know you have to go to RASP, and immediately after that you go to SOCM right?

>>30044853
That's what I mean, undergrad>basic>ait>rasp>socm>ranger>med school>emergency medicine

>>30044660

Dudes killing themselves because they work 14 hour days six days a week and their leave constantly gets denied?

Have fun being in the air force. Stay away from maintenance.

>>30044714

>airforce
>whipping boy of all the branches

Just like the Master was the whipping boy of the plantation because the slaves didn't like him, right?

>>30044930
what?

>>30045029

Kid sees the air force as superior to the other branches. He is one of those tards who drank the blue kool aid and he isn't even in yet.

He is in for a rude awakening; maybe not in bmt, but definitely in tech school.

>>30045029
>>30045061

Man, make up your mind.

>Hurr durr, duh chairforce is duh softest branch, dey eben hab ice cream mashines!
>Hurr durr, duh chairforce won gib you tim off and will wurk you into duh groun!

Goddamn, you niggers can't even keep your bullshit straight.

>>30043545
me too lol, but I'll be out of reception by the time you get there

>>30044907
ah alright just making sure. I'm currently training to go 68W option 40 myself.

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>>30045081

Well I'm sure that the other anon doesn't know anything about the air force other than what he has been told to hate them for.

Just FYI since you obviously haven't done any time: the air force is run like a horrible government funded business. Morale is shit in maintenance due to ludicrous working hours, plus dudes being randomly shift changed, and the rest of the air force just sits around on reddit all day complaining about mandatory fun.

Leadership thinks they can fix the issues by forcing people, sometimes on weekends, to go bowling as a flight. For some reason they just don't understand that people only want some time off. Then there is the fact that half of every flight is a buttfucking backstabber...

I could go on for hours, but if you're joining then I think it'll be much more interesting to see things for yourself.

>>30045392

You and pretty much every other kid joining the army.

Seriously, when you go to meps ask all the males with the army sticker what they signed for.

>>30043095

I'm excited for the AF, I just needed more time to do home and family things.

>>30045457
it was that or SARC but i'm not oorah enough for that lol

>>30045457
Breh, most people getting op40s are just going infantry op 40. And I'm guessing the fags that just wanna be cawadooty go to the Marines or sign a seal contract like the retards they are.

Some of us are actually passionate about emergency medicine and want to serve and save lives in the fucking field.

Is it possible to fudge the height limit for 19k? The cutoff is 6'1 and I'm a bit over 6'2.

Will they really turn me down over an inch and a half?

>>30045603

Yes they will. when I was at meps a kid had to be weighed 5 times in a row because he was 0.7lbs over and in the end they told him to go home and come back in a week.

Optimum pushup routine for getting passed 60/2 minutes?

>>30044923
>not enjoying labor
fuck off cuckboy

>>30046120
>do lots of pushups
>repeat every day till you can do 60
I could literally only do 20 2 months ago, and just yesterday I did 65 in 1 minute

>>30046120
Pyramid sets
Do 1 rest 5 seconds
Do 2 rest 5
3 rest 5
4
5 rest 10
6
8 rest 20
9
10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1

Adjust rust time as needed. just dont make it too long

>>30045416
its fucking painful how true this is.

>>30045081
Im back youre a loser
>>30045416
>Well I'm sure that the other anon doesn't know anything about the air force other than what he has been told to hate them for.
My sister is in, her job and lifestyle is so amazingly easy compared to what i went through in the navy.

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>>30046120
>>30046287
>>30046534
See >>30022767
Also heres part 2

Yo any other former/future/current 18x pipeline members on here? Fixing to ship in a few, been too busy prepping for it over the past months to actually pay attention to much of the usual /meg/ faggotry (as I expect most 18xers with their shit together are)

>>30047327
Yo man, ive posted on here before, navy vet whose trying to go back in to Army as an 18x. I havent talked to a recruiter yet cause im preparing physically. Whats up with you

>>30047373
Decided to look seriously into it abt a year and a half ago, started easing into training before the summer, signed the contract and started seriously training in the fall, got some SFbros to hang with and get advice from, shipping out shortly. Not too stressed about it: in pretty solid physical/mental shape for it, and if it doesn't work the first time around I'll keep on putting packets in until they tell me to legit fuck off and never come back or let me in. Looking forward to it: am going straight into it after being in college for 6 yrs (bachelors + masters). Got an engineering undergrad so if everything goes legit balls up and crashes and burns I'll not be destitute after my contract is up. From what I hear at the recruiters 18x contracts are relatively easy to snag (if you have the test scores, medical OK, etc) compared to a lot of the vanilla combat arms ones, interestingly enough.

>>30047425
>From what I hear at the recruiters 18x contracts are relatively easy to snag (if you have the test scores, medical OK, etc) compared to a lot of the vanilla combat arms ones, interestingly enough.
Nice, ya my other discharge is perfect, no medical prob, no debt, no record. I def meet all the qualifications for one. Couple questions,
Did you go in with the idea of 18x or were you not sure what you wanted to do?
Did they give you the contract no problem?
How long were you in DEP for?
Any signing bonus?

I'm on the sill bus, if you're on here sill bro, cough loudly

>>30047458
Yeah, I was going to go to the AF to snag a SOWT or TACP pipeline contract if they wouldn't give me a 18x one.
I did take the pains to time it so I was signing right at the beginning of the fiscal cycle in October (more contracts in general available then), which I was told made it easier for me.
Was in DEP from early October until like two weeks from now, so approximately the full 9 months they let you
Nah I think the only signing bonus they give out with any regularity these days is a quick ship one, and if you wait to sign until you're all physically prepped and all it's a lot more of a gamble whether or not they'll have a spot open.
Not a recruiter, but from what I gather they like to sign people a bit more in advance for 18x/opt 40 because it makes scheduling out the next year's sequence of selection/SOPC classes easier for them.
Had a pretty chill recruiter so that helped my experience be hassle-free too I guess

>>30047503
>so approximately the full 9 months they let you
You mean they let you choose how long to be in DEP? Cause tbhfam id rather leave sooner than later.
>and if you wait to sign until you're all physically prepped and all it's a lot more of a gamble whether or not they'll have a spot open.
Could you elaborate on what this means? I remember when i was in the Navy DEP the way a seal contract worked was you choose some other job and while you were in DEP you had to try out then re-sign for a seal contract, is 18x something like that?

Appreciate the help btw. I may end up waiting until October as well just cause but i want to have as much info in my pocket going in to a recruiters as possible.

>>30047535
Yeah i mean if you have a non-shitty recruiter they'll work with you to give you the ship date you want, if it's available.
Honestly your best bet if you want to ship pronto is to just go and talk with a recruiter and see when their soonest openings are. Worst case, you don't like the options they give you and they're dicks to you and you have to go find another nearby station to work with.
Seal contracts are all kinds of fucky, there's not a shit-ton of parallelism there with how either opt 40 or 18x works. You're pretty much expected to have your own physical prep shit together and all - only pre-ship check they have there is one full PFT a few weeks before you ship to make sure you're not retardedly out of shape.

>>30030698
>no tacp

>>30047616
Very interesting thx for the info. So you are saying with 18x you get the contract straight up, you dont have to try out for it or anything like that?

>>30047617
i mean this is communism edition, after all

>>30042320
Marines are literally Army that gets shittier jobs and worse opportunity for promotion

>>30047636
The ways they can be like fuck you no 18x for you, afaik, are the following.
1. You have criminal record shit that shows up on the automated background check they do.
2. You fail the drug test at MEPS when you go the first time.
3. You sound sketchy as shit to the MEPS clearance guy they have you talk with for like 5 minutes (all he does is look at your sf86 info and double check with you that you're not lying (or admitting to lying, at least) about anything you put on there.
4. You are physically DQ'ed at MEPS (are not given the OK by the doctor that does your Airborne physical)
5. You have stupid-ass ASVAB scores.
6. You're visibly a fat fuck with no hope of getting to 80 in each section of the APFT before shipping.

Any other ways of getting kicked out of 18x, afaik, happen post-ship-date.

>>30047694
Sounds good man i pass all that, im just saying do you sign up for it just the same way you would with any other job as opposed to what i said about the seal contract. I just wanna make sure they dont pull a fast one on me by saying something like, just sign for this random job in the mean time eventually a 18x will open up and i end up getting fucked.

just got back from a 16 hour day at meps, knocked out ASVAB and physical in one day and swore in

>feelsgoodman

>>30047732
Yeah you sign up for it the same way you would anything else that's a MOS-specific contract: if your MOS (18x) isn't explicitly named on the contract you sign, you're fucked in theory at least. They're trying to increase the amount of actual SF personnel of course, so chances are this won't be the pain in the ass for you that it was for prospective 18xers like five and ten years ago: professionalsoldiers.com has horror stories in abundance of people in low-intensity conflict with recruiters trying to pull a fast one on people back in the day. Haven't heard much in that vein about recent contracts, so you're likely not to have quite the hassle that people have had historically.

>>30047738
Branch? Job?

>>30047768
Sounds great man. I like what im hearing. Any other info you can think to share or feel like sharing?

>>30047770
USMC you dont pick your job at meps, its like air force you have to wait untill a slot opens up with your recruiter.

>>30047809
Interesting, why is that? I would imagine that would screw a lot of people over wouldnt it?

>>30047835
yeah its not as nice as Army or Navy where you get to pick your specific job but hey, you do it to be a Marine first.

>>30047779
I mean shit I don't have that much extra to share - all the physical prep stuff is covered in excess other places on the internet, and that's more or less the only shit i've been doing specifically to gear for that. Like everybody always says, professionalsoldiers.com is the place to go for non-bogus info on all things SF: I probably spent more screen time lurking on there than anywhere else to get my info. Tone of conversation on there gives you solid general insight into how the people who literally make the decisions on who passes SFAS/the Q-course, etc think.

>>30047327
>>30047373
Future op40 fag here. Finishing undergrad then enlisting. When do y'all ship?

>>30047885
That goes along with what ive heard before. Thx man.
>>30047920
Nice, im a navy vet. I dont got an 18x contract yet but i should have no problems getting one. Gonna go see a recruiter probably around july/august time frame if possible.

>>30047920
Early this next month

>>30047973
Best of luck, though based on your posts you shouldn't encounter anything you're not mentally or physically prepared for.
>>30047935
Yeah I remember you from maybe 6 or so months back, though I wasn't aware previous service guys could get 18x contracts.

>>30048002
>though I wasn't aware previous service guys could get 18x contracts.
I havent heard that I couldnt. That guy who has an 18x trip is in airborne and he said alot of guys he went through with were vets already. Had you heard differently?

>>30048024
I had just heard that previous service guys couldn't get them. But it may only be Army previous service. I'm outta my lane on this one.

I'm in the Alabama NG that recently finished federal OCS. I chose MP as my branch because reasons, but during training I really liked the infantry aspect.

My question is is there anyway I can switch to be an infantry officer? I know the Guard is a bit finicky when it comes to it and is state dependant.

>>30048045
Hm I gotcha. I guess ill find out.

Grunt here

I just want to clear up one huge misconception about joining the service that I see all the time. It's not going to help you get pussy. The guys that get pussy in the military are the guys that got pussy as civilians. Chicks go for the popular, good looking guys, period

>>30048102
Kek
This is true in the air force for sure. I'm in the best shape of my life and am doing really well in tech school and I'm not a train wreck of a looker and still can't even get a girl to flirt with.

well lads I leave for OSUT in under a month as an 11B, any tips or advice?

Just got a CTI contract, leave in August. Anyone know what I can expect?

>>30049402
college for a year

>>30009553
Anyone got any info/experience with Naval Aircrewman (AW)?
Sounds like an awesome rate, just wondering if I'm simply over hyping it.

Also that pipeline looks fucking long

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Basic Enlisted Sub School (BESS) student here. The SecDef is on base today. I also "pick" my rate today.

I'm shitting fucking bricks.

>>30048102

Truth

Nobody gets brainwashed into being a bad ass in any boot camp. You come out the same person you go in as.

It was sort of a shock after getting to my first fleet unit to come to the realization that everyone is just a "normal person." I had totally bought into the whole movie bullshit about how the military is - in truth it is just high school but everyone has a little bit of money so they can finance their terrible decisions.

>>30051651

I'm told they save that for Indoc.

>>30050865
Its a good rate. Youll get attached to a helo squadron and deploy with them. All they did on my ship was chill, workout, and evey once and a while theyd go out in the helo for a few hours. Easy as shit.
>>30051076
Choices?