/akg/ AK General

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Anyone knows how these are called in their original model or naming ?

I am trying to find one here in eurostan and "4 piece bulgarian muzzle brake is returning only burger results"

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>>29911777

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>>29911777
I just got a vz, can I play with the ak kids?

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>>29911777

OBZOR IS KARL/INRANGE APPROVED

https://www.full30.com/video/7624cea4bf4e867cc013a1e036aefe33

>>29912047
yes you can

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>>29912047
I prefer my Czechpoint vz to my Norinco AK so sure

5.45 a best tho

>>29911777
10 round and tanker mags are just so cute.

>>29912122
>that tactical slav squat
ONE OF US

>>29912008
There is no official name to it like Obzor or something. Search Bulgarian muzzle booster, gas booster, flash hider, etc.

>>29912157

I want to get some 20 round mags for my 104.

>>29912258
bulgarian trashcan

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>>29912258
When was the last time you were in Alaska?

>>29912280
that looks beautiful desu

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i want a gas block rail for my AMD-65, is the ultimak one the only one on the market?

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>>29912307
It was a beautiful day.

SLR-104UR with rust around the rear sight:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qs3tPz3scAM

start around the 2:00 mark.

>>29912258
That is the issue by using english terms it only pops out USA results.

With the model I could find German, bulgarian russian ebsites

>>29912008
DTK Bulgarian or Bulgarian 4 piece

>>29912008
Search AK booster, Bulgarian booster, four piece booster etc

>>29911777
Are Polish WZ88s good guns?

>>29912548
Depends on who built it.
Tantals are generally good if built properly.

>>29912683
The armlist ad says it was built by interarms. They said its not a century build but it's armslist so who knows. The guy wants $650 for it.

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>>29912524
>>29912494
As I was saying in >>29912439
The issue is that Europe has many languages and using english terms points to US sites

>>29912280
It was about four years ago.
>>29912439
There is no model name.

>>29912765
Try searching for a listing on egun.de using the search terms we listed, or using German translations of those search terms

any of you know if the beryl mags fit and feed in an saiga 223?

also, where to find beryl mags (in europe)?

>>29912883
>that brake

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>>29913067

isn't it?

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>>29912771
What brought you to our great state?

>>29913112
5.45?

>>29913129
So how well is that slab of molten cast playdough holding up?

>>29913129
>ak
>fagpul handguard
>afg
why.jpg

>>29913055
if you your saiga is directly from russia, chances are mags don't fit by default and you would additionally need a bullet guide

>>29913157
So far so good, I'm looking at possibly having the bolt case hardened. One of my friends that's a slavaboo is saying that if Century only took the time to case harden it, it should be fine.

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>>29913055
I've never handled a .223 saiga but if bulgy .223 mags work in it, then the beryl mags should work too.

>wanting a 104fr as of late
>don't want to get a shitty rifle that's canted and bubbly
>seems like that very well may be the case

>>29913155

yes.

>>29913168
The furniture came with it. At $486, I couldn't pass it up. I also have no inclination to get wood furniture for it, however the next AK that I'll get will have it.

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Here we go boys.

>>29913546
interdasting
>does it need a bullet guide

>>29913546
this looks so much out of place

>>29913579
No it's single stack.

>>29913546
Oh really?
15 rounders sound intriguing.
Wonder how long it'll take them to get it out, and then how long it's perpetually OOS.

>>29913213

well you can wait it out till they unfuck their QC (not going to happen) or you can play the lottery and count on having to refinish your rifle (which will hold up better in the long run anyway)

try and find a gun store that carries Arsenal rifles so you can check it for cant. I'm lucky that I live near 3 stores but you might be shit out of luck.

>>29913546

now that is sexy

>>29913597
theynhave gone from no prototype to a prototype in about a month so, we should see these by the end of the summer I'll guess.

Yes they are 15 rounds, it's about the size of an AK mag(length wise).
>>29913618
Yup

>>29913630
Is there any talk about pricing yet?
CSS usually has pretty ok prices on their mags.

>>29913546
Are there shorter barrel options for a x54 Vepr? i'd kill to turn it into a proper x54 "AK" but having a giant mag with an SVD length barrel just triggers my autism

Looking to buy my first AK74, already own a WASR AK57 that is on it's last legs barrel-wise, beat the fucking shit out of it and im not putting money into it. also 5.45 seems to be much cheaper.

Arsenal and VEPR excluded, which company do I trust for a basic bitch 74? my penis lusts for plum polymer

>>29913835
prolly saiga

>>29913835
IO or Century Arms.

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What is the one AK and/or AK accessory to get before Shillary comes to power?

>>29913835
Get a saiga while you still can or a DDI.

>>29913746
Atlantic had some that had a 16 inch barrel and came with standard AK furniture for a while.

>>29913909
all of them

also

>

>>29913909
>AK
Anything you can afford to get your hands on.
>AK Accessory
Mags and ammo.

>>29913904
>>29913929
do they make a model that isnt sporterized? i'm not looking to pay the difference between a saiga and an arsenal to turn the saiga into a normal looking 74

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>>29913746
>>29913998

>>29914093
No. They have to sporterize saigas to get them in (technically SGL's are saigas, but theyre Arsenals and $1500/+).
They don't make them that way for shits 'n giggles.

>>29914093
probably not in the US. the saigas in europe arent sporterized from what ive seen.

Does anybody have experience with a SAR M1 or M1F?

>>29912783
>egun.de

Tried it out, found this ad: http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=5958501

guy's email adresse goes to russ-guns.net which is a weird mix of airshit and real stuff.. Sent him a mail.

Thanks for the advice though

>>29912047
nice looking spider

>>29914103
yeah, this right here would be hilarious. probably better off getting a 20+rd mag FAL etc. but i'd love to own one of these for the novelty of it

>>29913683
Not yet.

/akg/ I have my heart set on an Arsenal 107fr but can't find one for the life of me. A lgs has a 104fr for slightly below market average. Tell me why I should 5.45 instead of 7.62?

>>29914419
because the mag curve looks nicer :^)

and has less recoil

>>29914419
>Tell me why I should 5.45 instead of 7.62?
Idk, do you want feel almost no recoil? Do you want superior ballistics? Do you want to scavenge ammo off of dead ruskies if they invade? Then 5.45 is right for you.

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>>29914419
This is the answer

>>29912345
What sling is that, anyone know?

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>>29912280
Last summer

>>29914824
I've only seen a small part of Exit Glacier a while back. Has it had any significant shrinkage?

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>>29914932
I've only been there once, wouldn't know

>>29914419
OP of this post here, if I get the one with the polymer stock, can I still switch it out with the triangle folder? Dat triangle aesthetics

What do you guys think about the .410 Saiga?

I want one to kill pest animals because everything else I have is either overkill or underpowered.

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>>29914945
>the pipeline
The lifeblood of Alaska, we're currently getting choked by the low oil prices.

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>>29915588
Your also getting chocked by
>In Alaska
>Walmart in Anchorage doesn't have ice

>>29914945

How do super-rural above ground pipeline operators cope with assholes shooting at it from time to time?

>>29915497

yeap. triangle stocks are getting rare though, so snatch one up if you can.

>>29914643

is that CR an SBR or do you have the cheater barrel inside the booster?

either way very nice looking rifles. Dat Geissele and AK 103 magazine.

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>>29911777
You guys!

Hey guys, hey!

Look what I found!

>>29916596
Cool M8

>>29916596
Yeah going Paki with a hacksaw and file, nice

Any suggestion for cheapest and most effective light mount/light for ak?

>>29916807
Rs makes a clamp on rail.

>>29912047
>white trash pet
>VZ
It makes sense

>>29916807

the RS clamp on is the best you're going to get outside of a railed handguard or a ultimak rail with an offset mount.

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>>29915721
Lel.

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>>29916807
Echo93 Mk65

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Took this today at the range.
Graphite Black Cerkote.
It was fun!

>>29917073
potato

>>29917152
Thanks

>>29908856
>idk why people still tout this idea that robski shills for DDI. He barely talks about them, and when he does its for AK shit that nobody in the US is really doing (the 100% US sidefolders).
>Hell, MAC has even done a tour and video about DDIs facility, but I don't see anyone talking about that.

I think people like to bash on Rob in general, maybe because it's easy.

I mean how many fuckheads here laughed at that shit Flandre sperging over paint?

>>29916807
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>>29916958
>>29917050

Forgot to mention that I have an ultimak

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Hey /k/, my friend and I were looking at some Yugo M70s PAPs, with the receivers made by Century. and one AK model made entirely from CAI.
2 of them were covered in Magpul mall-ninja furniture and the other two came with the classical furniture.

Are these any good? It's about 650 for the M70, and 700 for this guy, http://centuryarms.biz/proddetail.asp?prod=RI2245-N&cat=134

My friend's budget is like 800, so is this a good purchase for him, or is there some other AK variant that he should look into?
Please help me /k/omrades

>>29917073
>bae
hope you get infection from shit

>>29914608
The 7.62 mags look better in my opinion. 5.45 AKs the look of 74's never clicked with me. There's a voice screaming in my head that 7.62x39 is better and I can't do anything about it.
Now 5.45 ARs are cool tho

>>29918497
5.45x39 is pretty damn cool though

if you can deal with less barrier penetrate the fabulous terminal ballistics, low recoil, flatter trajectory, and less weight are pretty bad-ass.

>>29918594
SBR 7.62x39 with some Russian HP and/or reloaded chinko steel core is one he'll of a suburban assault weapon room clearer

>>29918235
WASR.
npap is potmetal shit

>>29918755
Yeah o-pap or no pap

>>29912047
Just a bit before the Czechs get angry

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I want an AK74 like this

>>29920516
>Dat Combloc Red

>>29912047

Nice bore snake.

>>29912047
That's a weird looking cat

>>29920595
It's iodine orange you color blind faggot

>>29920516

So quit buying cut up guns and buy one that actually works.

>>29920653
#rekt

>>29918235
>Yugo M70s PAPs, with the receivers made by Century
That's not a thing.

>>29912548
A buddy of mine from the Polish Armed Forces cringed when I said I wanted a Tantal. According to him they're fine rifles if you're a pacifist because they're inaccurate as shit due to poor design. I've heard of the Century Tantals having accuracy problems as well, but I don't know any other company that manufactures them so I can't really say.

Personally though, testament from my buddy is more than enough for me.

>>29920516
I don't really like full stock AK-74s. Some of them are nice, depending on the setup, but I feel like a full wood fixed stock AK74 looks a bit weird. Personally I'd much rather have an autistic attention-to-detail AKS-74 from the Soviet-Afghan war period.

>>29920726
I don't really like full stock AK-74s. Some of them are nice, depending on the setup, but I feel like a full wood fixed stock AK74 looks a bit weird. Personally I'd much rather have an autistic attention-to-detail AKS-74 from the Soviet-Afghan war period.
>implying those are the only two options for an AK-74

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>>29920653
Hey easy now it's been a whole two months since I've bought a kit.

>>29920885
And how long since you bought a functional firearm?

>>29920953
...Buying guns? Wha... oh right, they have store where you can buy them. All built up for you.
But that's no fun.

>>29920953
6ish months (I've been trying to save money)

>>29920958
It is rather effortless

Will we ever get sweet PP Bizon?

>>29913176
Your friend is a retard and you are too if you are honestly thinking of trying to salvage a cast bolt by heat treating it.

>>29921315
life is pain

Should I even try to make a WASR look like a vintorez or would it look like ass. I mean I know it'll never look exactly like one but I could probably get close.

Faux suppressor though, cause frick the ATF

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>>29912047
What kind of dog is this?

>>29921315
I'll Peepee on your bees, if that's an acceptable substitute

Do the Russians still issue any AK74s with triangle stocks or are they all your standard polymer AK74Ms?

>>29922434
Some will drill out 4.5mm triangle folders for use on 74M's

There is also a factory made 5.5mm triangle folder that will work. Mostly you just see the polymer folder though

>>29918755
>npap is potmetal shit
>[citation needed]

The only rockwell hardness tests online disagree with you.

I'm looking to buy a 91/30 mosin nagant with a scope, preferably a pu but anything really. Any help /k/?

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5.45 is best it's become my main caliber

>>29922701
Don't buy a savage instead
>als really in Akg ?

>>29922701
mosins are nice for the slavboo but in reality a modern bolt action is better, my nugget shoots 5in high at 100m

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How come the slr104s do not use that spring loaded firing pins ?

>>29923818

No idea.

All I know is that on my 107fr, the spring loaded nature of the firing pin somehow makes taking the bolt apart MUCH easier.

Taking the firing pin out just requires some pressure on the firing pin rear, followed by punching out the retaining pin by hand. My other ak with its free floating firing pin requires a hammer and an unsettling amount of force to dislodge the retaining pin.

>>29924306
Interesting i just noticed that about the 104s and I was confused on the reason why the 107s have that style pin.

>>29911777
Anyone have any experience with NDS-1 or NDS-2 AKs?

Pretty sure its century who makes them but I found one in 7.62 and 5.45 and I was wondering how these compare to other AKs?

>>29924371
Here's a link to a forum on ar-15.com but it does not look good
https://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=4&f=76&t=124315

>>29924480
>thread

>>29924480
Yeah I saw that one. 7 years ago, however. Not that anything could've changed but I have hope somehow that they arent so bad.

I just want a good AK74.

I'm wanting to buy my first AK. Want folding stock and a dash of tacticool. Money doesn't matter someone help.

>>29924625
It's going to be pricy either way better off just buying a Arsenal and dealing with the finish.

who knows anything about the Arsenal SAR M1 and SAR M1F?

>>29924780
I have a SLR-104FR.

Canted FS, rear sight leaf isn't even (one side is longer than the other), and MAJOR headspacing problems (the dust cover wont even properly seat at the front without a 2mm hole inbetween the top corner and the receiver)

I can't even zero it. $1100 rifle.

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>>29925103
wew
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>>29925103
hows the quality of VEPRs compared to SLRs?

>>29925103
>Bullshit
pics or doesn't exist

>>29925276
I have a x54r VEPR, no canted sights, finish looks gud, didn't even have to move the sights and the rifle zeroed. Wish they made them in 5.56 and 5.45.

>>29925103
I have one in 5.45 and I see no such problems. Kindly provide pics, the only thing I'm worried about is my paint falling off.

Would a modern Russian optic on a triangle folding plum furniture SLR104 look weird? It seems wonky to me. I feel like a proper triangle folder should be wood and bakelite, while if I want a more modern rifle I should use black polymer with a polymer folder.

Is a triangle folder with plum furniture anachronistic? Would a triangle folder with plum furniture and a modern Russian optic be really anachronistic? Not that I care because it's my rifle and I'm going to to what I want, I'm just curious if it ever happened.

>>29925103
>headspacing having fuckall to do with top cover fitment
Lmfao

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>>29925338
He's full of shit I own one too and have no issues

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>>29925321
>Wish they made them in 5.56 and 5.45.
They do, they just haven't been easy to get for a while. Pic related, the 223 and 545 model look identical.
I have a 223 vepr, but it's not one of their sporter style rifles. I wish they'd import the 20" sporters with fluted barrels again because I want one of those too.

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>>29925366
Fuck no, plum furniture triangle folders were definitely a thing. And since the Russian optics are mostly backwards compatible, it would really just be representative of a late era AKs-74N in modern use.

>>29925537
Is 1500$ too much for a 92 Tula krink kit ?
http://phoenix.backpage.com/SportsEquipForSale/tula-aks-74u-russian-krink-kit-1992/40125547

>>29912280
where is this ?

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>>29925366

>>29925537
This, they were definitely a thing and IMO plum triangle folders are my favorite looking AK74s.

>late era AKs-74N in modern use
Are they still really floating around in service?

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>>29911777
>>29911777
I am going to Russia in 3 months, anything I should pick up?

>>29925595
Some STDs from all those gay prostitute servicemen in Moscow

>>29925571
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=558184487
This one is cheaper but doesn't come with a barrel. But, the top cover hasn't been removed from the RSB, which is a plus.
>>29925588
Possibly, but I've only ever seen 74M's and recycled 74M's. But keep in mind that these were made up to 1989 so many are really not even that old. Lots of Ukrainians were using them to resist the Russians, presumably from old Soviet depots or something.

>>29925149
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>>29925513
>>29925517
Uploading pics right now. Gotta remove exif so you autistic arsenal sperglords don't get so mad that you have to attack me at a personal level over your beloved company.

Seriously, I'm not a fucking arsenal hater. I swore by Arsenal's quality for years because I accepted it as the gold standard.

I suck at lighting/picture quality.

>>29925703
Make sure you get good pics of that bad headspacing. Curious what bad headspacing looks like.

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>>29925730
That one is a nogo. I have a ME industries charging handle loctite'd so I couldn't show the gap.


Look at the right side of the rear sight block in this picture.

>>29925636
I mean it wouldn't surprise me if they were and you mentioning production up to '89 puts things in perspective, but still it just seems so old and archaic (which it really isn't as they're more or less very similar but still). The idea of 74Ns still being around seems so bizarre when the AK100 series exists.

Again, looking at production dates puts it in perspective that they're aren't too far apart as the 74M began production in '91, but I don't know it just feels like there should be a vast difference in time between the two. It's weird.

>>29925276
I had a VEPR in .308 for a while and it was a great rifle. It's hard to compare my old VEPR to my current SLR104, but both are excellent. The VEPR had a considerably better finish, though. If I had a choice between my SLR104 and a 5.45 VEPR with proper furniture I'd still probably go with the SLR simply because the VEPR is a little heavier.

Speaking of VEPRs, are VEPR Supers still being made? All I see out there fairly regularly are Supers in .223 (KVar has them now) while the only Supers on Gunbroker are both in .308 starting at $1700. I'd love to pick up a Super one of these days, but I don't really want one in .223 and I don't want to pay nearly two grand on one in .308 considering I bought my old .308 VEPR for only like $550.

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Incoming small dump.

RIP slow internet connection users.


Rear sight leaf bars aren't even.

>inb4 oh well thats just normal because cheek weld relief hurdur

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inb4 dirty socks also

trying my best to show the cant


I heard you can place the sights down on a flat table and see where the front sight leafs angle up to tell cant

It's enough that I couldn't zero it at 50 yards.

>>29925595
Parts kits
Rare magazines
Sanctioned items, like 9mm Saiga mags

Make friends with someone over there so you can get more shit later.

>>29925815
What am I looking at? Am I being trolled?

If you really can't zero your rifle, that sucks and I would contact Arsenal about it, but inventing problems like this is just the buyer's remorse talking. Also, headspace isn't something you can see like that, you're fundamentally misunderstanding headspace. Whatever gap you're talking about has nothing to do with headspace, rest assured.

>>29925856
Have you tried contacting Arsenal? I know their customer service isn't the greatest, but if you try and they still don't respond, you can trash them on kikebook.
Squeaky wheel gets the grease.

As far as headspace goes, have you actually used a set of "go, no-go" gauges?

>>29925856
Yeah, your FSB is badly canted. Contact Arsenal. I know they say that canted sights aren't covered in their warranty, but if it's so canted it can't be zeroed the rifle should be considered defective. That one should have never left their doors, the cant is easy to see.

>>29925892
No trolling today. Found out the IRS is going to fuck me in the ass. I'm not in a good mood. (even to troll)

I've heard from ALOT of ak owners that the RSB is supposed to fit evenly between those two tabs. And if it isn't, it's because: RSB Cant or headspacing problems.

>>29925904
I actually just sent off the pictures to arsenal. I'm still debating whether I want to just dump this rifle and get a SGL or just save the cash for a LMT.
>>29925915
I could not EVER give a single shit for paint bubbling or fit and finish problems. (rust under the paint is a different issue and I would be furious over that)

I have a new SR-15 carbine and it's got a few beauty scratches and paint chips already, I couldn't care less. It can be repainted and finished.

>>29925981
>I actually just sent off the pictures to arsenal. I'm still debating whether I want to just dump this rifle and get a SGL or just save the cash for a LMT.

If you're sticking with 5.45, the SGL wouldn't be a bad option, but for half the price, you could get a DDI in 5.45.

Also, LMT makes a damn good rifle. I was very happy with my Defender 2000 and am still happy with my 10.5" LMT upper.

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Where do you guys typically sight in your 7.62X39 AK's? I have shit vision so I was wondering if 50 yards was suitable considering the ballistics of the round.

>>29925981
Why did you accept the transfer tho ?

>>29925981
Nah, no problems with your RSB. Those are just little alignment tabs and there's no need for them to fit tight, or anything like that.

Good luck. That rifle was not fit to be sold. If Arsenal doesn't make right by that, then fuck them.

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question for the Saiga12 crowd: does the Saiga 12 use a normal AK safety lever or is it a shotgun only type ?

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Does this look like rust to you guys? I didn't notice it until now. All this Arsenal bubbling finish stuff got me looking over my SLR-104 (6000+ rounds, many many magdumps with no bubbles or anything, no 7n6/corrosive ammo through the gun, all WPA) and I noticed this here, around the gas block, and around the front sight. Is this normal?

1/3

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>>29926220
2/3

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>>29926238
3/3

The rifle has ran flawlessly and is a fantastic gun, I just didn't notice any of this until now. Should I be worried about it? I don't have any of the necessary tools to remove the front sight or gas block to see underneath or anything (if I did I'd be building kits by now) so this is all I can see from the outside.

>>29926125
Stupidly. I didn't know how to properly inspect an AK. I was just so excited to get an AK-74.

>>29926167
Thanks. I'll provide an update in a later thread from now.

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>>29926220
>>29926238
>>29926256
You already know what must be done.

>>29925981
Headspace is a function of the area between a closed bolt and the end of the chamber. It is the space that the cartridge sits in in the barrel. too tight, the action can be almost permanently locked up. Too loose, and gun can go kaboom.

>>29926256
that's just the grease they use when putting it together. It's fine, it'll just hold carbon and piss you off if you want a pristine rifle.

>>29925863
How would he/she get them back legally?

>>29923818
Didn't know 107s used firing pin blocks

I know they use them in 5.56 aks because capitalist jews use inferior soft primers

>>29926608
From what I've gathered and the problem I was referring to has to deal with the RSB not being seated evenly and properly.

So when the bolt carrier is forward, it would be slightly tilted and not evenly locking up.

If that makes sense.

What are the best and worst 7.62x39 mags?

>>29926620
Really? I'm making a big deal about stupid grease?

>>29926789
Most mags are good but korean mags/ promags are the worst.

>>29926823
Tapco are OK?
Also, I heard that the Korean 30 rounders were alright but the higher cap ones weren't

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Quick question: who makes a better trigger pin retaining plate: Tapco or Krebs Custom?

>>29926789
Best? Eastern European steel, and some say the Yugo mags have better springs and better finish and QC than others. Bulgarian steel reinforced polymer "waffle mags" are outstanding, lightweight, durable, and $50 a pop if you can find one anywhere.

Worst? The Korean mags look good on the outside but they're not fitted correctly. They have poor springs and the follower needs to rise up another 1/8" or so between the feed lips in order to make the last couple of rounds feed properly. Polymer mags that aren't Bulgarian waffles don't have a good reputation, though I have heard some say that Magpul and US Palm mags aren't bad. Some even say the Tapco mags are okay as range mags that you'll plink around at the range with, but they cost the same as the real deal steel, so why do they exist?

>>29926808

well you could always take a tooth brush with a little CLP and brush at the area to see if it goes away.

>>29926862
I have krebs in both of mine. They fit great. Can't speak to tapco.

>>29926831
Tapco may are may not work also like magpul ones they can break the locking lugs off, but for some stuff like cheap 5.45 mags those are about your only option.

How much do O-PAPs usually go for now?

>>29926872
My korean drum wouldn't chamber. I had to chamber a round from another mag then put the korean one in, and it fed thereafter.

Any ideas for me?

>>29926862
Trick question.
The Red Star Arms retainer is the plate I've put in every one of my rifles.
It's spring steel, and locks onto the pins, unlike a lot of other retainer plates.

>>29926983

looks a lot like the Krebs version.. hmmm

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>>29926872

http://www.sgammo.com/product/surplus/30-round-ak-47-mag-new-bulgarian-made-polymer-762x39-caliber-magazine

I know bulgarian waffle mags are great, but how are these new production "bullet" mags by the bulgies?

>>29926187
It's not 100% drop in, it will require a little bit of fitting. I can't remember if the krebs safety I tried on my SGL12 needed any more fitting besides opening the gap for the thicker receiver. I took it out and used it on another gun.

>>29927001
They're very similar.
But the RSA is half the price of the krebs.

I'm just speaking on my experience with the Red Star, but I'm not sure if the cutout on the krebs allows the pins to be locked into the retainer and not just sitting in the cutout.

>>29927109

looks like they just sit in the cutout. I'll give the RSA a whirl then. Thanks for the tip.

>>29926808
Every time you heat the gun up, a little can come out. like cosmoline x 100.
But yeah, it just high pressure grease.

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Been lurking for a few weeks now and just picked up this npap.

Can i join u guys?

>>29926872
Tapcos are only ok for calibers without huge amounts of cheap steel yuro mags, like 5.45 and 5.56.

>>29927124
You'll like it.
It makes detail stripping a breeze.
>And hey, 5 bucks saved is 5 bucks you can spend on other AK stuff.

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What's the average price paid for a headspace adjustment for an AK that's found to have too much headspace (my AK closed on a no-go gauge recently).

I don't want to get raped by the smithy, guys.

>>29927153
Nice DF.
>Didn't think Aussies could have AKs.

You need some better mags, and probably better ammo though.

>>29927153
Sure, just drop the name till you have something to contribute.

>>29927196
>Just drop the name, period
Ftfy

>>29927213
Chimps, Zasta, and the VA guy contribute.

>>29927235
And Flanders but I haven't seen him recently

>>29927241
Yeah flandre disappeared.
>>29925892
Chimps, I know you said he stopped doing FFL stuff, but what's with the radio silence?

>>29925588
Are those surplus or US made handguards?

>>29927193
naw, North Carolina here
And i understand i need metal mags, but what's wrong with Tula? it's cheap af.

>>29927196
>>29927213
k.

>>29913909
You really need to get a spam can of 762x39 before the elections, Get more if you can afford it. If it looks like Hillary is going to win, I can promise the ammo shelves are going to be empty.

>>29927235
True.
But even those guys could contribute without tripfagging and it would still be the same info.
There's the beryl anon who contributes just fine anonymously, although his pics show who he is.

Haven't seen VAfag around lately, maybe he went back to anon.

I'm not ragging on trips either, just saying it's unnecessary.
>except for helping to find posts in the archive, maybe.

>>29927082
From what I've been told they lack steel reinforcements at the locking lugs so they're kind of mediocre. There are slab-side Bulgarian polymer magazines with steel inside the feed lips which are a little better, though.

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>>29927292
Surplus I bought as a set with the PG from a guy in Ukraine

>>29927295
I was fucking with you, upside down pic and all.
Tula is dirty as fuck and inconsistently loaded.
GT is cheap too, as long as you buy by the case.
>Which you should be doing

Maybe pick up a set of Balkan handguards to give it a little war torn feel.

so are akm bakelite mags generally in the 30 dollar range or do they go for more?

>>29927266
According to some other anon, he does still have his FFL and will do builds. I thought he gave it up.

Flandre has posted less and less as time has gone on. I think he said he went and got a real job. Probably just doesn't have the time.

>>29927518
More.

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>>29927518
Expect $140+ for museum grade

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>>29927541
When he did my conversion about a year ago, he said he was basically winding down on builds a good bit because of school, work, and moving. It may be worth emailing him though as he may still be willing to do some on the side.

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>>29927542
>>29927563
is 80 dollarydo for 2 izzy bakelites a price?

I've been thinking about buying an SLR-104 soon. Should I just wait till Arsenal unfucks their QC or play the lottery?

>>29927670
>tfw no hug and $5

>>29927694
Play the lottery safely.

Go into a LGS and take a good hard look at them. Don't let those faggots pressure you because THEY are busy. *thats why I got fucked with my SLR, I was trying to be polite*

Take your fucking time with it. Inspect each one carefully.

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>>29927799
This
There are good rifles and there are lemons always inspect before accepting the gun
>pic related my 104

can AKs shoot sub moa?

>>29927799
>>29927840

Will do. Thanks.

>>29927986
Yes, but I wouldn't just assume any ak will. There's lots of potential if you shoot something that's not garbage wolf/bear/tula 762x39 ammo. But there's not a lot of shooters that can actually shoot moa whether their guns can or not.
My psl hovers just barely above/below moa if I do my part and use higher quality russian factory 188 surplus. But I can only keep that up for a short while till eye fatigue etc begins to set in.

>>29928069
can i build an AK with average parts and achieve sub moa? i did this with my AR and now want to get into the AK game

>>29926071
>set sight ladder to "2"
>set up target at 25m
>sight in rifle
>gun is g2g

For real the 25/200 battle sight is my favorite thing about 7.62x39. Easy af to sight in.

>>29926660
>legally
kek

You label them as boat parts, or model trains, or airshit and mail them to yourself.

How do you think that shit gets here in the first place? It doesn't just appear in the states magically.

>>29928110
This.
And disassemble mags and ship bodies and springs separately to be safe.
Parts don't constitute a whole.

>>29928140

Yeap. Some British guy has been shipping AK magazines to the states for years doing this. I just wish the shipping charges we're not so damn high.

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>>29911777
Bump with more RWGŁ-3

I was hoping Rob would have the next Arsenal test video up by now. I wonder if hes sending it back because of the rust and no park.

>>29928671
Did they actually prove it wasn't parked ?

>>29928100
Explain to me how you build an AK

Protip: you don't just buy some parts from PSA and slap them together with nothing but a wrench in your bedroom

>>29928688

not sure. it sure didn't look like it was.

>>29928671
He said on AKfiles he was going to be gone all week and won't be able to continue shooting until the weekend.

>>29912008
It's called the pee-funnel break anon.

>>29928724
Judging how my AR turned out you normally don't do that with them either.

(read I should not make things)

>>29928740

well shit.

>>29928105
14m/300m sight setting works too, if you have to try to zero in a 50 foot indoor range.

>>29928105
How do I zero 5.45 if the only local shooting spot goes out to only 300 yards?

>>29913546
is that what I think it is? Is it double stack?

>>29928870
Basically the same. For weapons in 5.45mm, 250m battlesight setting = 25m. To confirm zero, at 100m (110 yards) set the rear sight to 400m and verify it groups 25cm (10") above point of aim. Now put the sight back to the battlesight setting and leave it alone.

That's how the Soviets did it.

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I came

>>29928943
Single.

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Cucked Commiefornia AK coming through. Fml.

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>>29929505
Why haven't you rised against your tyrants yet? Your politicians have forsaken their oaths of office. Why haven't they been cleansed?

>>29929825
Soon my fellow Patriot. Soon.

>>29927184
The thing is, in order to adjust the headspace on an AK, you'll have to press out/in the barrel, which will miss-align the barrel pin hole.

Are current production NPAPs good to go? How hard to come by/expensive are OPAPs these days? If I were to get one 7.62 AK I would get one that takes balkan war furniture, since its possible it was used to remove kebab

>>29930098
Zastava is making AKs for Iraq and they aren't spending as much time on making AKs for the civvy market. They're getting more money from govts than their civilian parts.

Also CAI are panic assholes.

>>29930098
>Are current production NPAPs good to go?
My friend just bought an NPAP DF. The stock was very stiff at first but it wore in and now is nice.
>If I were to get one 7.62 AK I would get one that takes balkan war furniture, since its possible it was used to remove kebab
Apex just sold the last set that had actual trench art on it

>>29930104
>Zastava is making AKs for Iraq and they aren't spending as much time on making AKs for the civvy market. They're getting more money from govts than their civilian parts.
Lol. Century has an exclusive contract with Zastava which makes them the sole importer into the USA. Century is trying to reduce the number of Zastavas flowing in to push the C39 and other century AKs with a higher margin

>>29930107
>Apex just sold the last set that had actual trench art on it

Source?

>>29930153
>Source?
Walked into apex with friend last weekend and purchased it and was told exactly that

>>29925523
well, i live in germany, and .223 VEPRs are one of very few AK models allowed for sports shooting (if the weapon looks like a weapon of war the case length has to be <40mm which excludes both 7.62x39 and 5.45x39 if they dont have sporterized furniture)

as i cannot get an SLR106 here, i usually have the choice between the bulgarian Arsenal, Saiga and Molot for .223 AKs

Saigas and the bulgarian Arsenals coming with normal furniture, VEPR coming with the sporterized furniture

Im also wondering abou the mag compatibility with the VEPR, as well as furniture compatibility

>>29930209
Interesting.
Wonder how long it'll be before they dry up completely.
>I bought when they were still 3 sets for $25.
I have quite a few interesting sets.

>>29930063

Oversized pin?

So I have a russian SKS, and its in pretty good condition but I've gotten a little bored of it lately, is there anything non permanent I can do to this thing to change it? Small things, like new springs or something like that? Any tips appreciated. I want to be able to return it to its original state without any cosmetic damage at least

>>29930425
file off the firing pin to make it a rare fully automatic assault weapon

>>29930443
except that would just make it not function at all, nice try though

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>>29930425
I think you can mount optic rails that are reversible. Haven't looked into it far because no point imo to scope an SKS because the accuracy only goes so far.

>>29930425
Since you're in /akg/ and not a slavshit general, set it aside for now and buy an AK.
You'll regain interest in it after a while apart.

>>29930499
I'm saving for a 74 atm, I only have that SKS and 2 CZs for combloc goodness

Well, just sent the money for an Izhmash railed handguard.

>>29930849
where from?

>>29927100
okay thanks

>>29930946
>Austrian
wo

>>29930960
in the middle

keep trying "hasgunz"

>>29930968
german here, 2-3km from salzburg border :^)

>>29930975
you coming down to Weitwörth from time to time ?

>>29930976
the one near laufen/oberndorf?

>>29930987
yeah
they have nice IPSC and a 2 gun match
both also with pistol caliber rifles

>>29930994
do you live/shoot there?

>>29930998
no
just a range run by shooting buddies that we use to visit often and vice versa

>>29931010
nice, weitwörth is literally like 15min with a car from where i live

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>>29912047
Spider?

>>29931037
yeah. thats a spider, isn't it?

>>29931037
ball snek

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>>29931046
>>29931064
Spider in this context is a type of morph, or color pattern, of the ball Python

IE
>male spider het

>>29931072
>ball spid

>>29914790
Vickers padded

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>>29931080
Kin snek

Too bad AK's are cucked so bad in Cali otherwise I'd get one

>>29931010
gonna move soon, but even then its not too far away.

so yeah, i can get there no problem usually.

do you know if i can go there and get a course (i only shot a few times with a friend of my family, and that was more than 2 years ago)and maybe rent a gun for a bit, as a non austrian?

>>29913909
still have a GOP congress, evil digusting traitor woman won't be able to do much for a couple years at least

Vz2008s welcome around here?

>>29931094
to be honest i don't know
homepage says something about calling the local gunstore for beginner sessions or something
not sure if the range is certified so you can shoot category B guns without a WBK

or do you have a WBK already ?

>>29931017
noice

>>29931254
i dont have a wbk as im not an active range member

>>29930934

http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=251388

>>29914202

please let us know if this guy got some left!

>>29926931
Too much. Zastava discontinued them so you're buying used at a markup if you want one.

>>29932402
was zum fick bin ich sehend?

>>29916925
never owned a snake but they're pretty low maintenance, they don't stink up the house like other cage pets, and its not a cat so he can still be a self respecting male.

>>29932402
It must be a PITA to carry a gun all that day loaded up so heavily with ammunition.
IDK what those hold, but it must be a lot.

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>>29932692
about 100 rounds+fuck huge spring+fuckhuge drum follower
it is a lot

>>29932692
Assuming that it's 9x18 Makarov like in a PP-Bizon, which also uses a helical magazine like that it could easily be around 100 rounds.

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>>29932738
It's 5.45x39.
There's been a few debates on how many rounds it actually holds (whether it's 75/100/150).

This is one guy's "guess"

>The following specifications are estimated based upon measurements extrapolated from known dimensions, as well as a comparison with existing helical magazines. They represent the author’s ‘best guess’ at present.

Calibre: 5.45 x 39 mm
Capacity: 100 to 150 cartridges
Weight: Approximately 2 kg
Length: Approximately 370 mm
Diameter: Approximately 85 mm

In reality, nobody knows nor will they until one makes it into the wild, out of nork hands.

>>29920584
God triangle folders make me moist.

Also why the fuck is it so hard to try to find a 74 that looks good, actually works, and isn't a gorillion fucking dollars?

>>29930425
Put it into a bullpup stock

>>29913909
As >>29914041 said, any AK you can get.

Accessories
Must:
>Mags, absolute minimum of 6*
>Ammo, in thousands
>a gun mounted flashlight, that eats batteries you find everywhere or rechargeable

Optional, but preferred
>Sling
>muzzle device

Nice to have, honorable mentions
>Optics


*Combat load of ammo starts at about 6 mags. Even then you run out of ammo surprisingly fast.

What does /akg/ think of the ak-12?

>>29932958
>valuing a flashlight over a sling, effective muzzle device, and optics
That doesn't even begin to compute to me. It's a rifle, not a HD handgun.
You want stability a sling offers + ease/comfort of carrying, faster return to target with a good brake, and to be able to reach out and see/shoot things further down your gun's effective range, preferably with a 4x scope IMO so you have a wider field of vision too.

New thread

>>29933126

>>29933126

>>29933126

>>29933122
how the hell are we supposed to have an informed opinion on something we can't even own?

>>29932460
sehend?
is that even a real conjugation?

>>29930098
>Are current production NPAPs good to go?
Yes

>How hard to come by/expensive are OPAPs these days?
Zastava stopped making them so you're gonna have to buy one used, and you're probably gonna pay more for it than a NiB NPAP.

>>29930104
>Zastava is making AKs for the
Curious about what you mean by this. Because the Iraqi government bought tooling and machinery from Zastava to make their own AKs in the early 80s. iirc these guns were made under license by Zastava.

afaik almost all M70s you see in Iraq are locally-produced on old Zastava infrastructure. Though with shit being what it is now it's certainly possible that's not the case anymore.