Improve it.

>>29906034
Add a short stroke gas piston.

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>>29906034
What do I win?

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>>29906034

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>>29906034

>>29906049
Fuck off

>>29906088
Got me to laugh.

>>29906049

He said "improve it" not "ruin it by adding useless junk."

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>>29906034
>>29906034
>>29906034
>>29906034

>>29906055
A firm handshake
*puts out hand*

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>>29906350
>*puts out hand*
The comment was sufficient.

>>29906419
*raises paw*
what's wrong with shaking his hand?

>>29906431
Nothing, the problem is the emoting bullshit. What are you, twelve?

>>29906350
*extends hand*
Thanks bro.

>>29906350
>>29906431
>>29906502

*kills self*

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>>29906502
>>29906431
>>29906350
You guys...
*smiles*

>>29906094
>he takes personal offense to suggesting a part to make a rifle more reliable

You are like a little baby

>>29906588
>more reliable
Not the guy you're replying to, but yeah...gas pistons don't make it more reliable.

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>>29906034
superior model, coming through

>>29906350
*unsheathes katana*
heh... don't think so, pal

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>>29906034
Colt Model 703

>>29906695
*shakes head*
Guy, he was thanking me, get the hell outa here.

>>29906055
Damn if it wasn't for >>29906049
I would be able to say fpbp.

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>>29906034

>>29906588
>more reliable
Do we seriously need to continue to reproduce this useless myth.

>>29906350
*cuts your wrist*
heh... nothin personnel... kid...

>>29906696
>that gun from MGS.png

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>>29906034

The only true answer.

>>29906802
You could pretty much say first post worst post.

>>29906088
beat me to it

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>>29906350

>>29906836
Nice meme

>>29906055
Take away the dogshit barrel profile, give it the A1's pistol grip and stock, and ditch the retarded burst mode, and we'll talk.

>>29906072
Wood furniture= Pure sex.

Srsly though, I'm building my first AR and plan on getting wood stock/handguard/grip, but is there any real advantage to having it over polymer other than the aesthetics?

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>>29906981
explain

>>29906695
*teleports behind you*
not so fast... ...kid

>>29906055
I just wish they kept it full auto and kept the triangular handguard.

Otherwise, perfect.

>>29906997
Burst fire is best fire, fuccboi

>>29907047
It makes killing the Legion easier

>>29906997
>take away everything that makes it an A2
>leave the nasty ass A2 sight
why

>>29907221
>nasty ass A2 sight
Are you trying to throw hands right now breh?

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>>29906034

>>29907221
>take away everything that makes it an A2
I took away every retardedass decision made by the design committee and left what was actually good. For every step forward the A2 made over the A1, namely the rearsight and handguards, it took another step back.
>>29907195
No, enjoy your useless fire mode and dogshit FCG.

>>29907232
YOU WANNA FUCKING GO FAGGOT?

>>29907264
Not that badly, but maybe just a little.

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>>29907264
>Rearsight that is adjusted for both windage and elevation, and has no need for any tool to do so
It was objectively better than the A1 rearsight.

>>29907272
Sooooo... You wanna fugg?

>>29907280
Unless you have a God given vagine, no.

>>29907290
Who said I am the one getting fugged

>>29907210
I mean beyond the obvious, I'm sure that it'll make me wish for a nuclear winter.

>>29906034
Cant
Rifle
Is
Fine

>>29907278
What scope is that?

>>29906034
get hype

https://www.full30.com/video/18892e97e9f518e9a8b80c3ed4adc00c?utm_source=system&utm_medium=email&utm_content=inrange&utm_campaign=subscribers

>>29906460
I mean, lots of people RP these days. We don't have to use our super exclusive 4chan grammar all the time, I guess.

>>29906111
so you made a type 96

>>29906997
Nigger fucking what the barrel and rounds were way better than the a1.

The a1 stock was also too short and the pistol grips are almost identical except the a2 is an upgrade.

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Best M16

>>29907724
>heavy for no reason at all/10

>>29907763
What makes it heavy, the rails?

>>29907644
Colt 3x20
>>29907712
>the barrel and rounds were way better than the a1.
What the hell are you even saying with the 'rounds' part? The ammo?

Either way, how is the government profile barrel in any way better than the A1's? The entire reason it exists is because of a botched procedure in the design stage where the people in charge of the A2's development assumed that straightness gauges getting hung up on fouled gas ports were actually doing so because, in their imagination, soldiers were using their M-16s as prybars and bending the shit out of the barrel. This wasn't the case. Now you have increased barrel thickness in an area where makes fuckall difference other than adding weight.
>The a1 stock was also too short
Lol
>pistol grips are almost identical except the a2 is an upgrade.
Double lol

>>29907724
Patently false.

>>29907659
I used to RP, then I turned 13. Seriously. Shits gay, grow up.

>>29907824
On what grounds?

>>29906034
Issue cleaning kits and not use ammo using "incorrect" powder?

>>29907816
As a former 91f I have to say these weapons wouldn't have lasted as long without the heavier barrels, especially since my fellow boys and girls used them autisticly.

You are probably a manlet though so you won't understand why the a2 stock is better. Also the only difference is the a2 grip has a notch coming out how that makes such a difference I can't understand.

>>29907910
That was the pre a1 series bruh. m16s had all that shit before the a1 came out.

>>29907904
Aesthetics. Its functionally the same as an A2, but ugly as sin.

>>29908018
>why the a2 stock is better
Okay, I'll bite. Why is it?

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>>29908018
>As a former 91f
This should be rich.
>I have to say these weapons wouldn't have lasted as long without the heavier barrels
You're right, those heavier barrels with the added thickness that does, once again, literally nothing. Explain how a 20" A1 profile barrel wouldn't have lasted as long as a Govt. profile barrel.
>You are probably a manlet though so you won't understand why the a2 stock is better
Wew, didn't see that coming a mile. Fuck people with plate carriers and chest rigs tho amiright? They need a LOP a mile long, feels my my man?
>Also the only difference is the a2 grip has a notch coming out
Also, y'know, thickness, but that's not a real noticeable aspect of a pistol grip or anything.
>for added lols; http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a168577.pdf

>>29908078
>ugly as sin
To you, maybe. I think the A4 and the A1 are the best M16's aesthetically.

>>29908089
slightly longer, we were told it had improved construction. In my honest opinion the weapon feels better with it.

>>29908097
>pencil thin vietnam meme
>heavier barrels apparently don't improve the weapon.
Too bad years of research disagree with you my friend.
>plate carriers and molle vests
This is why we are using the m4 now, son if you somehow get an m16a2 on deployment you had to have fucked up somehow.
>*cries cause hands are too small*
How in the fuck do you have a problem with the grip?

Holy shit milsurp you are making trips look bad stahp.

Also
>study from 1986

Fucking really?

I prefer the m16a2 over the m4.

There. I said it.

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>>29908217
I like the part where you do absolutely nothing to prove that a barrel that is only heavier from the FSB on is somehow a dramatic improvement.
>years of research
Link it. Link shit showing the Govt. profile barrel is an improvement over the A1.
>This is why we are using the m4 now
Damn, guess that A2 stock isn't all that great, huh? :^
>*cries cause hands are too small*
Nigger I am putting a -thicker- grip over that skinny, knobbly piece of shit you're wanking over. If my hands were small, I'd prefer the A2 grip. But I don't, because I dislike AIDS.

>study from 1986

>Fucking really?
Damn, didn't know shit like physics changed over a few decades and studies are completely invalidated by age alone.

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>>29906111
>Murphy?
We have the technology to rebuild him.

>>29908282
nigger your study literally backs up what I said with research by the USMC.

I also dont see any m16a1s with collapsible stocks so kek yourself m8.

Did you even read the goddamn thing holy shit.

>>29906350
*unzips dick*

>>29906034

do away with the forward assist and place the charging handle on the bcg

>>29908325
>The M16A2 "heavy barrel" is heavy in the wrong place. The problem with the M16A1 is a temporary bending of the barrel which occurs from the stress of various firing positions causing bullet strike to vary, e.g., the difference
between a bipod firing position, and a position using a hasty sling will change the strike of the bullet at 300 meters by three to four feet or
more. The "bending" takes place between the receiver and the sling swivel/ bayonet stud. The M16A2 barrel is "heavy" only from the sling swivel to the muzzle--where it can have no effect on the bending problem. The Marines plan to test a new barrel which may correct this problem. (Discussed on p. 29).
>I also dont see any m16a1s with collapsible stocks so kek yourself m8.
I'm not seeing any M16A2s with collapsible stocks either, m80, and that's a bullshit argument to make considering we're discussing whether certain "improvements" made to the A2 were actually that instead of which rifle is overall better and fielded as a result. :^

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>>29906034
you can't
it's already perfect

>>29906034
Put a Acog on it
fmj bullets
red tigerstripe

>>29908531
ACOG illumination adjustment levels are still based off the light levels around the sight right? Terrible.

>>29907793
Yes.

>>29906350
*turns 360 degrees and walks away*

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>>29906034

>>29906997
What's better about the A1 pistol grip?

>>29906086
Is that how the M4A1+ will look like(just shorter barrel)?

>>29907047
Not really.
However, the amount of cum that will burst from your loins every time you hold it will make up for any drawbacks.

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>>29906034

>>29910010
doesn't have that stupid tit that is uncormfatable to a lot of people

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sci-fi bullshitted it.

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>>29906088
beat me to it comrade

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>>29906034
>implying

IF YOU DON'T THINK

R E T R O
E
T
R
O

IS PERFECT, YOU CAN GET THE FUCK OFF MY BOOOAAARRRDDD

>>29908018

nice to see another fox on here.

I won't disagree with you on grunts and various other ne'er-do-wells fucking up barrels, but standard combat use and the barrels would be fine.

The A2 stock material is better, but the length is fucktarded, the A-1 is definitely better when wearing the iotv.

>>29907278
until you knock your adjustments off in combat cause you aren't on a KD range

>>29911056
it's butieful

>>29907816
The Murheen Corps had the bright ideal that their infantry assault rifle should be able to win service rifle competitions, so they requested the A2 have an Hbar profile. The Army didn't want to buy new M203 mounts, so the degisn committee compromised and thus the abortion of the govt profile and subsequent M4 profile were born.

>>29907245

Poseidon, I summon my rifle!

>>29906034
Free float handguard like how rock river does it, and then put the sling swivel on the FF. Brass deflector for defective people. Either keep the pencil thin profile or go to a continuously tapered mid profile. Go back to a prong flash hider that doesn't ping.

>>29908772
you went fucking retard all the way

>>29908772
you dumbass you would walk right into him

>>29907157
*knocks on door*
its me. Goku

>>29911305
>>29911328

It's a meme, you dips!

>>29906350
>>29906419
>>29906431
>>29906526
>>29906502
>>29906543
>>29906695
>>29906757
>>29906822
>>29907157
>>29908772
>>29911336
*keks*

>>29906049
Can someone eleborate the difference between the various ar piston systems? Yes newtoguns here, always wondered.

>>29907816
I disagree on the pistol grip, but it isn't much different at all. One little finger nub.

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>>29906034

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>>29906034
done.

>>29906783
What kind of handguard is that? I desperately need one.

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>>29906034
Needs sum wood.

>>29906836
I'm wet
>skinny alu stock
>fixed carry handle
>skinny handguard

I like the CAR15 variants without forward assists like the GAU-5a1 but that's sex nonetheless

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Improve it. If you can.

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>>29906072
>>29909998
>>29911585
>>29911489
Need more wood!

>>29906695
*pshh*
Nothin' personal, kid

>>29906072


looks like an NRC rifle now


which is not bad at all

>>29908217
>Holy shit milsurp you are making trips look bad stahp.
>not knowing milsurp is one of the best trips

how long have you been on /k/? i feel like milsurp has been on for way too long (pls stay i <3 u, milsurp)

>>29907816
>Rounds
I believe he meant the switch to M855 over M193

>>29911800

Honestly....

I bet you could make a functional rifle entirely out of wood.

Vacuum impregnate the hardest wood on the market with epoxy, and that wood should be able to be used in a functional and relatively durable firearm with reasonable loads.

The barrel, chamber, bolt, etc would have to be thick...

But I'm confident it could be done.

>>29911373
They are either short stroke AR18 copies or long stroke AK wantabes. Both are fucking stupid marketing gimmicks and are designed to take fools' money

>>29912067
milsurp is sigfag/stalker tier. He's serial shitposter at worst and retard at best.

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>>29906034

Put a non-reciprocating charging handle on the left side of the gun, and remove the forward assist since it's now useless.

That mid-mounted charging handle that stretches over the buttstock has always annoyed me on AR-15s.

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Fixed it!
Way better than Stoner's Design.

>>29907245
Did you drop a silver AR-15? A gold AR-15?

>>29907724
>quadrail
Nope.

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>>29912193
Anon did you say


Thick?

>>29906034
>Birdcage
>Forward Assist

No. Nigga no.

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This is my creation. I improved it with the best, most practical attachments, such as wood camo vertical grip, professional sights and baseballyonet, my best invention so far.
Let's start with the binoculars. This attachment allows you to shoot more precisely and accurate. Then we have the Grippy-stabbity™ stock. Placing the blade in your arm increases your stability even more than with your regular dull stocks. Let's move on to the vertical grip. Everyone knows how useful they are, so I made it even more useful by adding some camouflage to it. Very effective in forest terrain. Now, my pride. The Baseballyonet™. More effective than your boring bayonets, thanks to its force and longer reach. :^)

>>29913318
http://steamcommunity.com/id/donchicki
this faggot made it

>>29906696
does that have a long-stroke piston?

>>29912231
No one has proven him wrong in here though

>>29913451
*barf*

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>>29911785

>>29911181
thank you for your service

>>29912276
its perfectly use able and make less shit to snag / fuck up

>>29911181
Why the fuck are you relying on irons in any way during combat to begin with in 2016?

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>>29911570
>tfw AR-Stoner uppers are out of stock
>tfw like ONE company makes a sc-upper with dust cover

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>>29906034

>>29906055
He said improve, not make worse.

>>29906034
By developing the M16A5 so it can use a variety of different rounds.

>>29911489
>Actually like Memeout: Le Vegas.

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>>29914615

Wat

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>>29913415
Yes.

>>29914743
>Doesn't like best fallout

3/10 made me reply

>>29906816

But anon, don't you wish your AR was more reliable so you could take it out innawoods? Obviously with another rifle for hunting though, you wouldn't want to blow a hole in the deer.

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>>29906034

>>29914615
what the fuck nigga

>>29916244
A crossfire?

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>>29908282

>>29914615
Is that a famas?

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>>29906072
Wood stocked AR-15s

My fetish, next to freckled polish girls wearing knee socks.

>>29913379
Well the only explanation for that is. Thats his steam profile obviously

>>29916987
>next to freckled polish girls wearing knee socks.
I commend you on your taste.

>>29912193

People called it a bamboo cannon. They used black powder back then. It was not very accurate nor long lasting. Modern propellant would most likely blow the damn wood up.

>>29908097
>LOP a mile long
I'm not sure how small people are, or how short their arms are, but I never had any issues with an A2 full stock and I am a sub 6' individual. This was while I was wearing a full chest rig including sapi plates.

>>29910948

And you can put a sling swivel on it.

>>29917070
With extremely hard wood that's been epoxied and cured, you could probably pull it off with coarse black powder loads.

The way I'd do it would be to keep the furniture walnut, then you'd build the receiver out of something stronger like Oak/Hickory, then inlay the moving parts with lignum vitae or some other ironwood.

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>>29906034
done

>>29917089
>A2 stock
>plate carrier straps
>good length of pull
People pretending to have served while posting online are funny

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>>29906034
Pic related, MK12 MOD Holland

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>>29917238
He probably 'shouldered' it like everyone else who had to put up with that shit.

>>29907280
Fug awf qweer:DDDDD

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Done

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>>29906034
K

>>29917241
>>29917308
>>29917359
I'd like queers to leave

>>29917238
>>29917272
>People pretending to have served while posting online are funny
People who claim they know other's lives is funny. I EAS'd in 2013. I also didn't have to throw the stock over my shoulder to shoot, either.
Is it awkward at first? Yes.
Can you still shoulder it normally and fire it? Yes.

>>29917413
Who queer...

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>>29917231
nah m8

>>29917463
>Is it awkward at first? Yes.
>Can you still shoulder it normally and fire it? Yes.
"A2 LOP; it's clunky and awkward and first, but it works, I guess"
5 star endorsement.

>>29914269
because shooting without irons for quals is for dundus

>>29917652
It was created for vietnam-era flak jackets at most in mind. It was used for some time, and then mostly phased out, only to be used for training or remain-behind elements. It was functional and served it's purpose, but is now the way of the dinosaur. I don't know why you are still so salty about it.

>>29917739
Why are we the salty ones? We're not rushing to defend a completely mediocre and outmoded stock with a less than ideal length of pull. The most you could even say for it was
>it worked

>>29917776
It DID work. I'm not defending it's inadequacies, I'm just stating what I know. What I know is the stock worked just fine. You don't think helmets and kevlars are inadequate because they rub your chin wrong, do you? It served it's intended purpose with no issues. The only fault it had was being used 20 years longer than it should have.

Another point. If you plan on shooting slick, as in no armor, it's perfectly fine.

>>29917897
Jesus Christ dude dude, you have like a total nonargument here that doesn't really have any place at all with what people are saying. What has been said about the A2 stock is that it isn't ideal and it is widely considered to have a length of pull that is too long to be ideal for people with plate carriers. You saying
>it worked
does nothing to counter that.

>>29906350
fucking reddit...
*clenches fist*
*punches wall*

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>>29913737

>>29906072
This is the correct answer. Beautiful.

>>29906783
Did they design that handguard specifically to frighten/upset the liberals who regulated that abortion of a buttstock?

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>>29908097
>Explain how a 20" A1 profile barrel wouldn't have lasted as long as a Govt. profile barrel.

Less thermal mass = more heat warpy = less barrel barrelly.

>>29911585
For some strange reason, this picture makes me feel patriotic.

>>29917070
I bet guncotton could do it.

>>29918793
Too bad the A2's barrel is only thick at the part where all of that hardly comes into play

Maybe if we're talkin suppressors, which really makes heat build up at the front of the barrel, but otherwise, nah, the A2 barrel is the exact same thickness as the A1 barrel in the areas where heat really builds up

>>29917238
>>29917272
>>29917463
>>29917652

So if I'm a manlet and not using no plate carrier because I'm not a pretend soldier or mall ninja would it be perfect for me? 5'6 here.


Ever since I was a kid I fell in love with the m16 problem is those people in the big screen weren't manlets.

>>29906111
God, fuck this NY state scurry salt rifle ban shit.

>>29907115
>>29906836
Overgassed as fuck, a booster that is unnecessarily long and would be unneeded if it had a longer barrel, stocks that crack

>>29906350
*grabs by the throat*

BACK THE FUCK OFF!!!

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>>29906696

>>29906677
What is that abortion?!

>>29906072
Would it be possible to make a retractable stock out of wood?

>>29921204
The darkest timeline.

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I tried.

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>>29923287
An attempt was made.

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Best "m16" variant

>>29906034
needs more lasers

>>29916922
kek

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>>29906615
>90% reduction in carbon fouling
>little to no heat on vital, moving parts
>same oil you out on in the morning is there in the evening.

Direct impingement was a mistake.

>>29925335
You get all of your info from H&K marketing panels too, huh?

>>29924933
it's okay to be wrong sometimes

seriously, C7A2s handle very bizzarely and awkwardly compared to the "it's literally just an M16" A1s. All the leftie support fucks up the righty switches and makes it harder to get things to engage/disengage.

The plastic feels weird, too. Like it's oddly slippery.

>>29906034

I don't want to. It's beautiful as it is.

A1 is best M16.

>>29906034
>A2 lower
why is this fuckup everywhere?

>>29906350

*raise middle finger*

>>29906350
*shoves live handgrenade up my ass*

>>29906695
*tips fedora*

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>>29906034
The only way to improve is to go back in time and stop the M14 from ever being adopted

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>>29906034
Done

>>29925996
Or better yet, tell Stoner to not put that shitty aluminum barrel. Had he went with the original, the AR-10 would have been accepted over the M14

>>29926554
Blame Armalite executives on that one. They knew it wasn't ready and did it anyway. Ultimately fucking them out of the competition

>>29926327
Yuck - Gross - Stinks!

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>>29906034
You mean like this?

Already been done, it's called an M4A1.

>>29927288
Oh yeah, they also should have signed up later than be come in late before the experimental trials.

>>29927393
>>29927411
There should be camps for people like you.

>>29927393
>How can we make the AR even more frontheavy than we already did with the retarded barrel profile revision?
>I got it...

>>29911875
ncr you mean?

>>29920555
whoah that's pretty edgy there bud

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>>29906034
done

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>>29906350

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>>29906034

>>29927835

When will the no-FWA meme die?

>>29927835
silly anon, you're supposed to improve it, not take away everything that made it better than what you pictured. silly anon.

>>29929327
When anons stop buying bargain-bin factory builds and try to justify the $600 they spent.
>"You will never need an FA"
>postrelated happens >>29907278

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Done.

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Sim rounds?

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>>29906419
>>29906460
>>29906431
>>29906502
>>29906526
>>29906543
>>29906695
>>29906757
>>29906822
>>29906971
>>29907157
>>29908339
>>29908772
>>29911305
>>29911328
>>29911336
>>29907157

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>throw away entire gun
>replace it with this

Done

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>>29916987
Incomperable taste good sir

>>29906034
Turn it into actual rifle, give it bigger magazine, tell "muh recoil" faggots to learn how to shoot their fucking guns.

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>>29906836
>moderator gives you the same overall length as a 14.5" barrel
>none of the benefits of a 14.5" barrel

Model 727 master race coming through.

>>29906350
*screams internally*

>>29921204
A direct result of liberal inbreeding, this poor baby has webbed feet.

>>29933656
*offers hug and a blanket*