/meg/

Any AECF deps here? I can answer any questions you have.

>>29900226
what is aecf?

Any royal marines in here? Just decided today I'm going to apply.

on my way to take the asvab, do we get lunch?

>>29900243
Advanded Electronics Computer Field. Its a navy program that gives you the rate ET or FC. Im personally an FC.

>>29900098
Army Infantry here, questions welcome

>>29900395
What brigade ? You better not say 3rd

>>29900476
unfortunately I was transplanted from glorious currahee nation to Rakasaans jackassery when they shut the brigade down... 2/506 white currahee, Dco. I'm out now.

Any fisters in here, whats it's like in a FTX/Deplyoment

>>29900498
I'm so sorry, have fun on the outside. You using your GI Bill ? Lot of guys from my unit on 10-11 got out and haven't done fuck with their lives. But a few of them stayed in and are now done with their degrees and work awesome jobs. One is a writer for maxim and task and purpose

>>29900557
good shit for them dude! Yea, its paying my way through law school. minimizing the student debt bullshit, and that bah is tits, because my ex wife can't attach it to the child support!!! lol

>>29900279
I didn't.

Anyone going to Sill in a couple weeks?

>>29900895
I might be in september, so no.

Anyone know how Sill is compared to the other three?

>>29900546
I usually only put two to three fingers in my wife's butt before the D. Not a fist.

How much shit am I going to take for enlisting at 24?

>>29900923
I'll be in AIT by then. t b h, t i think i'd rather have the dry hot summer than the freezing wind in winter. September is probably a good time to go, best/worst of both weather types

>>29901068
Do you have a degree? Go officer unless you want to be standing at parade rest and taking shit from 19 and 20 year old corporals

>>29901087
>>29901068
I'll be turning 30 at basic training, desu senpai

Army aviation here. Anyone curious I can help

>>29901087
Yeah I have a BA. OCS then?

>>29900863
>>29900279

When I went to take the afoqt a couple months ago they were giving lunch to the kids who were going enlisted and were there for the physical and to swear in. The kids who were there just for the asvab didn't get food, and neither did I.

>>29900098
help

>>29894004

>>29894606
>>29894708

>>29901103
I'm thinking about enlisting as a 15R or 15Y. What can I expect?

>>29901068
You act like you're ancient or something

>>29901098
>desu sempai

You realize 4chan word filters because you are an undesirable right?

I was gonna give some advice but fuck memelords figure it out.

>>29901116

Depends which branch you'd want to join. With an art degree your choices are limited to the army and marine corps for the most part these days, you may want to check with a recruiter since maybe there is some wiggle room.

For example, to be a 17d in the air force you need a cs/it/is degree or some other stem degree with 24 units of cs undergrad coursework.

>>29901098

Brutal, try not to break yourself while attempting to keep up with the kids.

The only thing that would be more depressing than being a 30-something junior enlisted person is getting medically separated in training and having to figure out some other way to get a job.

>>29901166
Yeah I was planning on going Army. My BA is in history if that counts for anything.

>>29901068
You'll get called grandpa a lot. 20 year olds will be your boss at first.

After that shits pretty normal. Even an e3 can tell an e4 to fuck off once you're not a boot. Or even an e5, working party after I spent an hour at the chowhall.

Lcpl Schmuckatelli and me go way back.

>>29901154
i wasn't asking for advice you faggot little nigger, thanks for explaining the word filter for me though. what would I have done without your help t b h f a m?
>>29901166
yes, I am old. will try not to get broken. I've always wanted to join, but had the good fortune of having a very nice job right out of high school, so the army was sort of put on the backburner. but last year, the industry I was in sort of imploded, so I said "now or never"

>>29901176
well if your planning army with a ba already go officer. if you enlist you will be an e4 slick sleave (no deployment patch).

>>29901176

You're going to have to make contact with a recruiter to see if being an officer is an option for you. I wouldn't just blindly accept what the recruiting websites say, I have seen a couple people with art degrees get waivered into air force ots for a couple jobs like administration and such.

I'm torn on whether I should be recommending enlisting to people like you in /meg/ if going officer isn't an option. It sucks and it is definitely a waste of your life if you have prospects outside of the military, but the humility and discipline you gain from being treated like shit also makes you a better person.

>>29901068
Average enlistment age is like 21. Just don't bring up your age for anything and no one will give a shit.

>>29901228
Be a little boy faggot? Like you are.

>>29901209

>Even an e3 can tell an e4 to fuck off once you're not a boot. Or even an e5, working party after I spent an hour at the chowhall.

You just have to make sure your edgelordy ass has a good plan for separation or else the counselings you'll undoubtedly rack up whilst being a faggot on a daily basis will haunt you forever if you're trying to stay in to retirement.

>>29901247
thank you for your service, sir

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>>29901103
Army aviation here as well. What's your MOS

>>29901263
shit you get to know someone well enough, it doesn't matter except in front of higher ups. My old PSG and I would bs all the time, same with the PL. This was before the board, when i was an e3-e4. shit was golden.

>>29901274
15G

>>29901130
I work with them currently. I'm a shops guy so I personally can't stand R or Y. But all crew Chiefs suck. But if you got a good head on your shoulders and common sense then you'll be good.

>>29901234
>>29901231
Well my job prospects suck right now because DWI for sleeping in my truck with the key in the ignition. Will that affect my ability to become an officer?

>>29901263
>Lcpl sk8erboy
>Lcpl doesn't give a fuck

I don't think you know the volumes of shit I gave to NCOs.

>working party

Don't show up, go to chow hall for breakfast

.MARINE I TOLD YOU!!!

Just grin and say "well yeah, I thought you'd want me to have a full balanced breakfast for all that work"

Also called my platoon commander a dipshit to his face. My SSgt was cool tho.

Honorable discharge so suck me sideways.

>>29901311
yes

>>29901228

>yes, I am old...

I'm 31 and getting ready for air force ots. Even though on youtube it looks like day camp I am still a little worried since my knees are shit due to six years in the Marine Corps out of high school.

I'm going into the guard since I have a good job so honestly I'm thinking that I'm not even going to try and keep up, that I'll just shoot for the 30 and over high pft score - as soon as I hit the time in grade requirement for each rank I'll automatically get it. I'm not sure if my pride will allow that, but I'm noticing as I train that if I run two days in a row my knees are a little swollen on the second day.

What industry did you work in?

>>29901291
Thanks. Where would I most likely get stationed?

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>>29901286
>>29901291
>all crew chiefs suck
>he's a support guy

>>29901330
Wherever there are apaches bud

>>29901311
well, first of all, you should appeal that decision if you still can. If you were passed out, in the car, and you did not drive it and have proof of that in some way in could be erased.

It might affect enlistment. It definitely will affect a commission to officer. So enlisting might be the way to go.

>>29901326
oil and gas

>>29901330
Depends on where the army needs you mostly.

>>29901347
Hey now. I used to be that idiot crew chief before reclass

>>29901282

I figured he meant telling people to fuck off seriously. Like someone coming up to you and asking you why you're not helping with field day and you telling them to eat a dick.

>>29901322

Pretty hardcorps marine corps, bruh.

Recommendation letters from former sgts who are now Lockheed project managers and 1st lts who are now ltcols got me the sweet ass job I am sitting in right now while posting on 4chan and making ~$84k after taxes.

I would never recommend burning bridges just because you want to feel like a billy badass when you tell stories to people who don't give a fuck whether you live or die.

>>29900923
I'm going sept 12

>>29901360
Doesn't matter in Virginia. You can get a DWI here for sitting in your car listening to the radio on your own property. The justice system here is all about making money for the state/localities.

>>29901385
Good for you. I stand to make $60k next year with my degree.

I could get a recommendation letter from any man I served with. The e5 I punked was a headquarters platoon POG who was up his own fat black ass, and I'd do it all over again. My and my bro from weapons platoon hid under our racks once to avoid formation and work detail.

>>29901493
>60K
>Implying this isn't SSG-level wages

K.

>>29902036

Not that anon but I'd honestly prefer to make e6 pay and be out than make like 10k more or so and have stayed in.

I just think about adult shit that kids don't realize like how you're never able to own a house, or at least you'd have to worry about selling it every three years or so.

I think the idea situation if you were to go active enlisted would be to get out after your first term with your gi bill and go reserve or guard while finishing your undergrad, commission as a guard dude or reservist after you're done and work on getting a good civilian job.

>>29901116
>>29901274
Chief warrant program for enlisted? I've heard of it but know very little. Any information regarding it would be helpful

What are my chances of getting to go greenside if I enlist as a corpsman?

>>29902254
Look into the street to seat program since you already have a BA. It's be kinda foolish to enlist with a degree then try to go warrant without exploring that option first. What specific questions do you have.

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So, commissioning via OCS in the army. Lets say somebody finishes out dead middle of their OCS class. Would they still stand a pretty good chance to branch into a combat arms MOS by the end of it? I am talking stuff like infantry, artillery, air defense artillery, Engineer, etc.
Also, how competitive is it to branch ordnance or transportation? Intelligence?
Gonna bump with some operators.

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>>29902710

>>29902541

Don't you have to have like ten years TIS to put in a warrant officer package if you were to go enlisted as X job?

Why do people even do that if their goal is to be helicopter pilots? I ask because when I at meps I heard kids talking about being pilots and I was just wondering what they were doing joining as a combat engineer or whatever.

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>>29902710

I want to
Travel
Get thicker skin
And participate in the Army's Boxing program

I don't want any desk jobs, gimme hole and a rifle and I'm good to go. What mos would you recommend? And how bad is infantry actually?

>>29902758
15T to door gunner/crew chief then WO is the "path" i always hear. seems like a lot of "ifs"

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>>29902710

>>29902710
>ada
>combat arms
Lel. But yes, you still stand a good chance of getting a combat arms branch, since so many are classified as "maneuver" these days.
>>29902758
The TIS requirement is bullshit, I've known kids who put in their packets as E-3s, maybe it's specific to a very in demand mos that you sign on for X amount of years minimum in your contract. For some people, being in already is their best route to becoming a pilot, but I would not recommend that for you.

>>29902710
goddamn this fucking dude. don't bump with operators again, you're wasting space. bump with an operator if it hits page 9 or something

>>29902863
>>29902798
>>29902741
>>29902710
dude no need to bump unless its at page 9

Do you get to pick your MOS in the USMC or is it assigned?

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How difficult is it to apply for Ranger while on active duty?

I could spend up to 18 months waiting for an option 40 contract, or I could ship out in a month and get the $20k quick enlist bonus.

would enlisting without the opt40 make the process longer/more difficult?
MOS would be 25s

>>29902864
Does infantry remain as competitive as it gets to branch? What about engineer?

>>29902905
>>29902868
So you guys dont want operators? aight.

>>29902954
Wait, you want to go to the regt as a commo guy?

>>29902977
yup

>>29902955
Infantry is the most sought after branch among officers, competing with aviation. Engineers is probably 3rd, definitely top 5.

>>29903005
Why.

>>29903013
What are some of the other most competitive branches? How about intel

>>29902915
Lol.

You play rock papers scissors. You dumb bitch read something.

>>29903037
does the answer to that even matter?

>>29902915

Yes, you get to choose your mos.

The exception is that 03s get assigned one of the jobs in their fields near the end of itb. Maybe someone who was an 03 and not a shitposter could talk about what that is like since I wasn't one - my friend who I was in with at the beginning of the war as an 03 said that assignment was random, not sure if that is the case anymore.

>>29903048
I'd say the most sought after are infantry, aviation, engineers, artillery, armor and intel.

>>29903063
If you have an Infantry contract you get assigned MOS after about 1 month in SOI ITB. Either 0311 or weapons company.

Or you went open contract and congratulations you're a grunt lol. That's rarer but I knew a few lost souls that happened to.

>>29903075
do a lot of guys choose to go ordnance to try to go EOD? Or are most of the guys that end up in ordnance the leftovers?

>>29903058
You just want to be a pog ranger huh

>>29903130
Ordanance is not a sought after field, as officers do not do much hands on EOD work.

>>29903130
EOD is slow speed, slow drag.

Be an 0351 assaultman or the Army equivalent I think they call themselves Sappers. Explosives with less gayness.

I want to go 35. I have determined that 35N is a solid MOS, which builds up a desirable skillset for the private sector. Am I wrong?

Also

35M obviously sounds like the coolest MOS, with the option for language school, etc., but is a good option? Isn't HUMINT slowly going out of trend?

>>29903165
So going EOD isnt competitive you would say then? I dont ask this as an underachiever, just more so considering all angles and back up options.

>>29903171
Going engineer officer is higher on my list than EOD officer

>>29903159
I'm in Intel and hope to someday support Group or Rangers, who fucking cares?

>>29903209
You do apparently.

>>29903209
What are your officers like in intel?

>>29903209
Just give me my sitrep and bolos you fucking pog.

>>29903201
I signed 35N because 35M is slowly being phased out and is hard to get a slot for. I think I made a good choice

>>29903221
>>29903230
>getting this ass mad
>not even Rangers
>probably not even in the military

k

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>mfw civvies think Intel is high speed

>>29902202
Depends how hard your willing to hustle. You can get VA home loan or USAA loans, VA will pay for about 5 mortgages before things start getting tricky. You only have to live in your house for a year. Apply all BAH towards mortgage, when time is up either rent to a bro, or find a company and charge a little under BAH. Continue cycle for posts.

When you retire in 20 years chose property you liked nearest post, liquidate rest, or keep renting for residual income and go visit buddies across country.

The thing is military everything in your life is paid for, and you make a shit ton of money ontop of that. No other jobs offer BAH and BAS so a nigga can sleep and eat, and while the healthcare blows, on the civvy side you gotta pay for some of the shit.


Best bet imo for young cats is pick an MOS that translates civvy side, or has an atrocious AIT. 68A BMET would have good job opportunities outside the green weeny and ait is 44 weeks, theres also some 25 series that are longer.

The longer it is, the more you learn, the likely hood of more quals, and less training needed on civvy side. They will like that you spent 44 weeks of training, and best part is with basic thats already a year off your contract by the time you hit your unit, plus these jobs youll sleep in your bed probably every night and not have to go to the field too often. When you deploy it will be fobbit lyfe.

Also while your in the best a young person could do if they picked a job that wont fuck them over like infantry or cav in the field all the goddamn time and working 12 hour days. Is to go to a community college, either local or local to your state. Do an online class and either a night class or weekend class. These count for promo points (get promoted more $$$ & sham and looks better), wont cost much if anything, and will save that GI bill money. You'll need close to 2 years of bullshit classes anyways even at a community college or university.

>>29903201
Room mate is 35M, I am unimpressed as fuck. While not deployed, they do staff/motorpool duty.

35L or 35N get into things way more fun.

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>>29903256
Guess again.

>>29903256
I am mad? Thanks for informing me I feel calm.

You're right I'm not even in the military. I EASd so long ago I'm not even in inactive service. You're so cool by the way, let's hang out? Please!!! I need your validation.

>>29903110

I knew a guy who went open and ended up in my radar school, one of the jobs with the highest line score requirements. I guess it is mostly random what happens to them at syscom based on manpower at the time and their asvab.

It was funny though since we all went to ipac to sign off on our bonuses a couple weeks before graduation and he didn't get shit...

>>29903290
I was wrong about this guy, respect

>>29903296
you're still very much a faggot, we will not be hanging out. no validation for you, sir

>>29903352
Fine with me kid.

Eat your vegetables.

>>29903287
I originally wanted to go Mike to Lima, but the more and more I found out about it, the more Lima sounded like ass. seems the only reason to reclass to that is to be a fed when you're out (which is cool, if that's what you want to do). I've heard literally no high-speed shit about this MOS, red-pill me anon.

>also, are the only 2 "feeder" MOS 35F and 35M? or can anyone reclass as long as they have a language or are in Intel?

>>29903283

I'm 31 and I did my time. You can only get a zero down VA loan once every five years; either being a property manager yourself would be a nightmare for me, and hiring a company would simply be too expensive since no kid would be willing to eat that expense to rent your place so they would likely opt for base housing or some apartment.

You're definitely right about the hustle, it just isn't viable until you're like an e6 and you have the money to pull it off. Even with bah as an e3 I can't think of too many places where you'd actually have the income to get a home loan, 29 Palms is the only place that comes to mind.

I make almost $30k more as an acqdemo employee over my military officer and snco counterparts. It is just silly to try and claim money as an incentive to stay in, unless you were sitting around jacking off for ~4 years and didn't get your degree or you signed for a shit mos.

>>29902541
I guess there are two of us with the same interest. My case is that I am halfway through school but have run out of money. Original plan was to get a BA and go as an officer and fly rotorwing. But money is saying otherwise

>>29903547
You can still put in a warrant packet, or go ROTC and get a scholarship.

>>29902541
Also currently halfway through school, planning on finishing without debt though. What exactly changes when enlisting with a college degree?

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I hear its incredibly hard to get a spot at army OCS these days. Is this true? How does getting a spot there compare to getting a spot at, say, Marine Corps OCS?

So just throwing some info out there and looking for info from you fellow vets and service members.

Released from AD in 2013 with honorable. Army.

I'm interested in possibly either joining the National Guard, Reserves or Chair force either or.

Why? I have no idea, healthcare, tuition assistance, and training into a job that is non-combat and actually useful.

Has anyone here done it? Is it worth it? I want to, but the fiance might not like it, and I'm already using my GI BILL, but I miss the .mil life a little.

Currently at a community college, outta highschool. Can't stand it, and don't have the money for a university. Heading to talk to a recruiter to take the ASVAB soon. I love fixing mechanical stuff and working on cars and shit, what's the best MOS i could look into?

>>29903707

You already know what the benefits and obligation are. so don't understand what you're asking.

20 push ups, 20 sit ups, 9 minute mile. fucking kill me now, basic training is going to fuck me up

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anyone here going /SEALs/?

>>29903852

Tech jobs.

Just stay away from motor t, generator mech and air conditioners. They are the retards of the tech fields and none of those will do anything for you upon separation; honestly helo and fixed wing mech won't do shit for you either since they pay shitty money and the jobs have been incredibly sparse since like 2010 - you also need the a&p license to get in anywhere but that is no big deal, the nojobz is a more important point.

>>29903878

Hurrrr

>>29903877
Holy shit dude, seriously consider not even joining

>>29903877
Holy shit dude, just don't even bother joining

>>29903892
Thanks. Say i score really high on the ASVAB in the requisite areas. What're the best ones to aim for?

>>29903922
I'm going to basic in a little over a month :^)

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Going to MEPS for the Army tomorrow
Last week my recruiter said he could get me an infantry contract, but today he called and said all that was left in the combat arms area was a 13B Cannon, and I would leave in a month and get a 25k bonus, but I dont really care about money.
I got a 96 on the ASVAB, but I really wanted to go infantry to challenge myself and redeem my soul through physical work, I haven't signed anything yet.
what do?

>>29903928
Unrelated, I've never been claustrophobic, and have a damaged sense of smell to lie to the docs about. Any chance of becoming an armor crewman of any nature?

>>29903971

Wait for an Infantry contract. He was lying to you initially to try and get you to do exactly what he's offering you. If you want 11X, tell him thats all youll sign and to call you when it's available.

>>29903938

You'll be fucking fine.

>>29903928

I can only speak for the Marine Corps.

Anything in electronics maintenance or tactical data systems is money. USMC network operations is okay but an air force guy would always get hired over you because their school follows comptia curriculum and the marine corps doesn't.

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Muhreen AAV crewman on leave here, ask me anything

Are recruiters still trying to convince you guys to go AAVs?

>>29904004
I fucking hope, I've been trying to increase my su/pu numbers and decrease my mile time. twisted my ankle last week running so now I can't even run right. I got one of those lung endurance breather things, hopefully that helps

>>29904054
Yat Yas fucker. 2nd or 3rd aabn?

>>29903993

Your sense of smell is not tested. If you are claustrophobic and you go into that field then I don't know what to say, sounds like a stupid idea though, you'd likely get sent away by your command after they got sick of you being non-functional in training... if you managed to even make it through the school.

>>29904068
Yagyas bitch fuck.

>>29903993
>war is smell

>>29904060
If he keeps fucking you around, find another recruiting station. They cant do shit to you until you really sign. You dont owe those fucks anything so dont give into pressure on a mos you dont want.

>>29904068
3rd Tracks

I always felt bad for 2nd Tracks guys, when they come over to 3rd they just look pale and miserable

>>29904088
I'm the slow guy not trying to go 11x, but I agree with this sentiment

>>29904076
>not claustrophobic
Come on man, at least read the post

Also
>try to make a joke about the inside of a tank being packed full of sweaty men
>/k/ takes it autistically
Why am I not surprised?
>>29904087
Real talk though, what's the best chance?

>>29903229
Not that guy, but some are good and some are shit. If they let the chiefs do their jobs, they're good. If they micromanage too far outside their lanes, they're shit. If they take hands off and let the unit fuck with us, they're shit.

>>29904126
you won't be tested on smell, and if anything it will be an advantage
>clearly has never been around a group of guys after work or physical activity

>>29903235
35M will not ever be phased out. From whom did you hear such rabble?

35M may eventually be phased to a higher level job, along the lines of 35L, in order to breed a higher base army knowledge among the mikes. But as it is, most mikes are cross trains and they, frankly, suck dick at the job. And currently we're getting a big push for language, which means we're getting that milky FLPP train without having to stress every day at DLI about losing our jobs or getting kicked out for failing a stupid test administered by people who barely speak English.

>>29904152
>he missed the joke
Not trying to be unfriendly, but seriously /k/, the joke is that i don't smell very well so the constant stench won't be a problem. I still want to know if 19k's a possibility and if not what other MOS is good

>>29903287
35N doesn't do shit in garrison except pretend to fuck around on SIPR and JWICS while avoiding details like a boss, unless you're strat. Because that shit's illegal for you to turn on without NSA approval.

i leave for Army basic in 2 months but my knee has been hurting me
I cant decide if I want to rest it or keep training, I can run 2 miles in like 13:45 minutes. What happens if I push through it and it gets worse at boot? Will they tell me to go home, or will the let me rest it and restart?

>>29903429
35G, 35M, 35F, 35N, 35P, and 35T are all entry level MOS.

>>29904189
Lima is not, which is what I was asking. What MOS can reclass to that?

>>29904182
And play Magic: the Gathering

Hey, just dropping by to ask if missing a nut is gonna be a problem

Literally nothing else wrong with me besides.

>>29904126

My bad, I'm at work and switching between like fifteen different windows.

To add to my previous post - if your damage sense of smell was due to some type of surgery or injury then you have to report it.

I meant to state that having a damaged sense of smell doesn't disqualify you from anything so there is no reason to lie about it and risk getting kicked out for fraudulent enlistment.

>>29904168
35M and 35L will be the same job within 10 years, screencap this post

>>29904177

Probably because it is a stupid and misleading "joke," it implied that were you making a statement about lying during your processing rather than you just trying to be funny.

This is an information thread so when someone says something stupid or incorrect another person will just chime in to correct it and move on.

took my asvab today and in my group there was the cutest petite Ukrainian girl, nice tits, good ass, and beautiful face.
tried to talk her out of joining the military, i sure hope she listens.

>>29904338

Not sure why you'd try to deny an attractive woman a dick buffet.

White knight much?

>>29904361
Have you considered that perhaps the man wants dat Ukrainian pussy?

>>29904361
nah, the military will ruin her and i like girls who aren't massive whores and are more traditional. why not try and keep more good women from being ruined?

Can I ask you guys a question, as a civvie who knows fuck all: what made you decide to join the military?

>>29904338
nice blog. way to derail the thread, faggot

>>29904402
You know how you picked a job (or college or whatever) based on what you wanted to do? We like the military. The jobs are engaging and/or interesting in some manner.

>>29904376

Well, he isn't getting it. That is why he doesn't have her number, isn't friends with her on facebook and is here shitposting instead of being out with her.

>>29904402
it's what i've wanted to do(sf) since i was little

>>29904402
Joined the navy after highschool, wanted to travel, save up money, get free college after. best decision of my life lad.

>>29904422
this, unfortunately

I want to be an officer in the future, either in the Army, Navy or Marines, but me and my family are broke as hell and don't even know if I can afford college without a killer private loan. I don't want to go the ROTC route in case I have a change of heart and want to pursue an actual degree other than Military Science. Should I just enlist? And if so, what are some good MOSs/rates for someone interested in weapons systems?

>>29900098
How do I convince my girlfriend to join the military with me?

>>29903013
>>29903048

CY is now leading this pack by far, especially since you can count the number of 17A slots on your hands.

>>29904466
>How do I convince my girlfriend to join the military with me?
Why? WHY?

>>29904466
What the fuck man? What makes you think that's a good idea?

>>29903463
>MFW GS-12
>MFW I was living better as an E-6
>MFW I have no face

>>29904483
>>29904496
Why is it not a good idea?

>>29904506
see>>29904361
she is gonna be a cum dumpster

>>29904189
You forgot Q

>>29903290
Hell yea. Apache

>he's older then 18
>thinking about joining the military

LITERALLY KILL YOURSELF

>>29904518
We have an open relationship. As long as she doesn't get pregnant then idc. It's better if I can keep her close then her messing around with dudes when I'm away. She might catch something.

>>29904506
Are you trying to get rid of her? It's difficult enough if you ship off and you rarely get to go home and see her. If she joins too then you'll have a nightmare trying to get leave at the same time. It's a high risk enough that she'll cheat on you if the stays home, if she's in the armed forces too then you'll have a 100% guarantee of cheating and everything will go to shit.

It's not likely at all that you'll end up being in the same place. It won't be a boyfriend-girlfriend adventure.

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>>29904548
>open relationship
Please tell me you sleep with other girls as well, anon.

>>29904548
>She might catch something.
She WILL catch something anyway with the lifestyle she has. An open relationship is a risky game. Not everybody has good sexual hygiene, man. You're fucked up. I took the bait. I fucked up here.

>>29904566
Mostly hookers. She hasn't slept with anyone else as far as I know since we made this arraignment but I wouldn't object to it.

>>29904610

Is she a teenager?

>>29904618
Yeah. She's a senior in high school about to graduate. A nice petite little thang

/k/ truly is the easiest board to troll. there's at least 5 different kinds of bait in this thread alone

>>29904662
Ever been to /m/? Baiting on that board absolutely zero effort.

>>29904644

Obviously. Only two kinds of couples do the open relationship thing. Clueless teenagers who are "so in love" that they can't tell their horny boyfriend not to fucking cheat, and actual 30+ year old adults with the maturity to handle it safely.

You don't have a girlfriend, you have a high school FWB that you fuck when you're back in town from training.

>>29904694
Yeah but /m/ knows that they're manchildren, /k/ hasn't figured it out yet

P.S. do we have any 68Ws in here? What does it take to get onto a fixed/rotary wing as a flight medic?

>>29903971
13b is cool and 25k is cooler.

if you deploy anyways or go light youll be doing sme or similiar shit anyways.

just reference how tankers go to agh, but theres no tanks

Hey guys, I stopped researching enlistment for a while and recently started again. Does trying to enlist in the AF with a 1-3 specific jobs in mind still get you laughed out of recruitment offices? Basically, is it anymore possible to get a specific job or should I go army for that?

>>29903877
how much do you weigh?

>>29904703
She IS my girlfriend and my best friend. We met when I was a senior in high school. I just don't want to be tied down to 1 pussy all my life.

>>29904779
200 pounds, 6 feet tall

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>>29904788
man up and commit if you like her this much dude. "Open relationship" my ass, you just want an excuse to pretend you could sleep with anyone you want. Especially if the girls you cheat on her with are mostly hookers why the fuck is it worth it.

Either you like her enough and want to commit or you don't. In both scenarios getting her to join with you is a bad idea though.

>>29904821

Bruh, you need to be in the 185-190 range at least.

>>29904829
you wasted at least a minute responding to an underaged troll, bro

>>29904862
maybe I'll get put into the fatbody platoon and get into better shape

>>29904869
troll or not idgaf, he's got my opinion and hopefully it'll help him make a decision. hardly wasting a minute when i'm literally dicking around on /k/

>>29904460
Any input?

>>29904829
I'm not wasting my youth. She's my cock holster and will remain so even if I stick my mushroom tip inside whores. You're just jealous I found a cool as chick. The military will do her good though

>>29904905
enlist, get your degree while active duty or most of it, go to OCS

>>29904881

How much time do you have before you leave? You can easily drop 10-15 pounds in a couple months.

>>29904927
summer vacation in May? I swear, its getting earlier every year

>>29904905
You don't pursue a military science degree in ROTC, you just take it as an elective

You can do whatever degree you want. It's easily the best way to become an officer (unless you're an autist and love academies).

>>29904932
less than a month. I'm more worried about my runs and pushups and sit ups than my weight. MEPS and my recruiter said keep it under 215 and I'm straight

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>>29904927
>you're just jealous
tell yourself what you will man, I'm pretty detached from your situation as a random stranger on the internet who will never meet either you or said "cock holster."

If you actually think she'll benefit from enlisting then i guess power to you both, I wouldn't really recommend it for most (if not all girls) from what I know.

Where are you guys from?

>>29904930
Your daily reminder that prior service officers are usually worse officers than their TIS peers (not rank peers), and they're more likely to get forced out prior to retirement.

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>"it is important to me that my MOS in the military translate into a high paying civilian job"

>>29904989
I actually don't care too much about money, I just want something I can stand doing for 4 years.

>>29900098
If you are serious, get married, collect the cash for it while you are in.

http://www.goarmy.com/benefits/additional-incentives/buddy-team.html

or do this. whatever.

>>29904961

What service?

>>29904930
I want to do this, but I've heard mixed things from my high school friends that enlisted in the Navy. They basically told me there was no guarantee I'd ever get to take classes, either on shore or at sea, and that makes me hesitant.

>>29904945
I may have read my college's ROTC page wrong. Yeah, I've heard people say that too. Ideally I'd like to have a degree that's applicable in the civilian world. By the way, how badly does having a non-science degree fuck you in trying to be an officer in the armed forces? I'm officially going for a B.S. in Multimedia Journalism.

>>29904978
i'd rather prior enlisted officers over academy officers anyday

>>29905005
Army

>>29905024
Your degree is literally just a piece of paper.

>>29905048

What MOS?

Also, for your pushups, make sure your hands are a little wider than shoulder width, but in line with your shoulders. Incorrect for can actually fuck with your pushups a decent amount.

>>29905033
It's nice that you have a preference, but ROTC is still a better career choice for the officer.

Besides, you're probably doing what all enlisted do and comparing rank peers instead of TIS peers.

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>>29904989
That's not edgy or entitled - what youre implying.

Joining the military is a commitment for 4+ years. Might as well make the best of it, and make an investment for a future career.

I won't be /operating/ till I'm 60, I'll tell you that.

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Hey guys, I want to do OST. Is it true there is a bias that leans on engineering degrees?

I'm working on one currently (Electrical), but I have a shit GPA (2.7), am I fucked.

I SHOULD'VE POLI-SCI'd THEN FLY'd

>>29905051
I almost thought that was a shot at the degree program(maybe it is) but upon some more reading it doesn't seem to matter TOO much if you take physics/calculus classes in college. Any confirm/deny is welcome

>>29905232
What the hell are you talking about. In the army and marines, you degree doesn't matter unless you're a doctor.

Do we really not have any 68Ws of any flavor in here? Aspiring flight medic, already got my basic. What do I do/say to get them to send me to flight medic school, assuming I get the MOS?

>>29905274

Pretty much every service gives you a positive adjustment on their OML for having a STEM degree. However, STEM degrees tend to lag behind non-STEM degrees in GPA, so you might not even break even.

>>29903701
What about Marine Corps OCC? anyone got anything to say?

>>29903283
So if were going ARNG 19D to get thru college and get some slick benefits would I be fucked? It looked like something I wouldnt mind as a weekend job.

Seriously, what is sailor life like in something like emergency response, support & logistics or food service & hospitality?

Has anyone done the Simultaneous Membership Program for Army ROTC? I am starting at GSU in the fall and I am wondering if it is worth it. For the record I am on HOPE and need a part time job to make ends meet. Any advice would be nice.

>>29905626

If you're going to be a part-timer then your MOS matters a lot less since you probably won't do it anyways. Just be aware you don't get all the sweet Active Duty bennies that guy mentioned when you're in the National Guard.

>>29905626

Nope. Totally reasonable path to follow.

i got an asvab score of 93 and 137, what does this mean?
what might the 137 have been?

>>29905377
50/50 chance you're a bedpan technician as a 68W. Ye be warned.

>>29905792
Be more specific. I assume you mean 97 AQFT and 137 GT. AFQT is like your overall score, you did better than 97% of other people. GT is general technical which is a sub area comprised of different sections (ie math, mechanical). You need a 110 gt to get the highest level jobs in the military iirc

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That feel when you don't meet the eyseight standards for the britbong military, and you can't get your eyes lasered because your prescription is outside the pre-operative limits.

>>29903971
Just went through this. Ignore any offer and come back every two days. Ask to see what's vilable, and tell them 11x will make you jump, otherwise you're considering your options.

>>29905851
go to the ffl, theyll take you

>>29905851
Your vision must really suck if you're having problems. Try having hearing loss and then talk to me about pain. At least people with vision problems have the chance to correct with glasses. People with hearing problems are straight up fucked.

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Is it realistically possible for me to finish my Bachelors while enlisted? I dropped out for financial reasons half way through my junior year.
Considering Coast Guard Maritime Law Enforcement or Air Force Security Forces.
Also can I enlist as a reservist and then voluntarily transition to active duty shortly after?

A while ago somebody posted a good book about learning land nav with a map and compass
Im leaving for basic in a month and wanna get some practice in the right way, anybody rec any guides on this?

>>29905846
i don't know what the scores were from, i didn't see the paper, but i'm pretty sure the 93 was AFQT but i have no idea what it was.
i'm supposed to see my recruiter again late next week or early the week after.

i want to get an 18x but i doubt i'll get that , no hs diploma and i was arrested twice before but both cases were dismissed.

i was that guy asking how to fill out my forms(waivers) last week.

>>29905919

>Is it realistically possible for me to finish my Bachelors while enlisted?

People do it all the time. Easier with the jobs you described at they *generally* have predictable hours.

>Also can I enlist as a reservist and then voluntarily transition to active duty shortly after?

Not in this day and age.

>>29905902

I thought they only wanted experienced ex-military guys?

>>29903171
Sappers are just engineers with better explosives training. As far as I know there isn't a Marine equivalent to Army Sappers. The army got rid of all dozen Infantry MOS's about 15 years ago and now there are only 2 enlisted infantry MOS's, rifleman or mortarman. It's not specified anymore like the Marine Corps is. You can be an 11B (rifleman) and be a rifleman, machine gunner, mech crewman, ect.

>>29905996
exact opposite

>>29903230
>>29903256

My thoughts exactly. I also love when cherry grunts call me a POG and I have more time in combat than they do in the Army.

>>29905817
Right, so I've been told. But what's the actual uh process for applying for flight medic school? I know they want a year of practice and such, I read link related.

By the way, I am wholly unexperienced with the military outside of the very basics. I am doing this because I love emergency medicine and this seems to present a great opportunity, or at least free school afterwards.

>>29905996
nah, they just want people in decent shape who are willing to learn french and shoot at terrorists in africa

>>29906071
>>29906109

Cool, guess I better start brushing up on my French then.

Any former potheads in this thread? I hate to be that immature fuck, but I'm afraid I'm gonna enlist and miss smoking weed like crazy. I could quit to get clean now, but 4+ years...well, it's hard to drop a habit you've done your entire life since adolescence.

>>29906230
just switch to meth

>>29906100
>applying for flight medic school
It's going to vary per unit.
My one army friend happened to be a 68W. He was attached to a combat engineer unit or some such in Afghanistan. He could never get any special school.

>>29906230

No, it really isn't. Unless you have the willpower of a 4 year old.

>>29906230
I smoke when i take 3+ weeks of leave.

Gonna try my hand at ROTC at the citadel, can't decide which branch what u guys think? no army plz

>>29906360
I guess that makes sense if you get it out of your system quick, but doesn't that put you at risk of dishonorable discharge? As much as I like to smoke, I would not like to fuck with that.

>>29906292
Huh. Well, worst comes to worst I guess I've got the G.I. bill, right?

>>29906456
Play the political games of your unit, and you can get it anywhere. Look out for you, anon. You have zero chance if you don't try.

>>29906485
I've heard this said before but what does it mean? Any particular examples?

>>29906427
you can get around it, if you know your gonna fail a piss test right after call asap and go admit yourself, cant get in trouble.

asap is alcohol substance abuse program, like military rehab-ish.

>>29906512
fuck fuck games, dont run your mouth, dont make enemies, dont be a shitbag, stick out for your leaders and brown nose and eventually they will reward you if your persistant.

Going in to take my ASVAB tomorrow then off to my physical the next day. Going Marine Reserves hopefully, any tips?

>>29906575
>stick out for your leaders
reminds me of the 1st law from 48 laws of power book

>Law 1 - never outshine the master

What are the logistics of becoming a Muh-reen Raider, seems interesting.

Civi here. Yes, I know marines are cult like, and get army's old gear whatever.... Im being serious about the question though

>>29905919
AF Security Forces is a fucking joke. Stay away from it. It's where the AF send reeee's who can't pass cook school. You will do nothing LE related and either watch a flight line, watch a nuke field, or check ID's at a chow hall. It's literally the worst off all the MP jobs and does not benefit you at all in the real world, especially not for civilian LE agencies. CG maritime LE is bad ass and for squared away dudes. Definitly go that route.

>>29902710
The true answer is that "it depends" for every single freaking cycle at OCS. Like seriously every one is wildly different. Some cycles will have a huge group, 200 or so when everyone can get one of their top two with ease and everyone happy. Some cycles can barely make two skinny platoons with less than 40 graduate even when recycles get put in and youll see every kind of messed up allotment of slots. 1~ of each with 14 infantry slots. Hoo boy then youll see some backbiting and politics afoot in the company.

I'm of the opinion tho that as a PL or XO, your life will probably be the same no matter which branch you get. Once you make tracks you can transfer branches to whatever you want as long as you weren't a total dirtbag during your first contract.

>>29906575
Sounds easy enough. Will it be a problem if my personality is a little, uh, bubbly? Should I stay pretty quiet?

Is there any truth to the whole "not getting the MOS in your contract" myth or is that just grandad talking about 'nam again?

Whats the best MP job?

Should i give up the avionics trade to become a helicopter crewman? I just dont like maintenance anymore but aircraft maintenance has a lucrative civi sector

Anyone have any info on 15w? Seems like something I'd want to do on paper but I'd like to hear from someone with actual experience.

>>29907062
15w is is a bit thick but if that's what the manual calls for then stick to it.

who /marines/ here

first meeting with recruiter here got a 76 on practice asvab.

How autistic am i?

>>29907110
you'll do fine

>>29907127
havent had to do division and multiplication by hand since elementery school, if i practice that i know i could score very high. All the marine recruiters kind of shit their pants over it saying it was good but i imagine other branches have generally higher asvab scores

>>29906427
pissing hot is not a dishonorable

>>29907162
i was the same as you, then I took the actual test. not hard bro. i got a 77 on practice and an 85 on the real thing. YouTube ASVAB and watch a few refresher vids, you'll do fine

>>29907162
>other branches have generally higher asvab scores
Talking with several recruiters from all the branches, no. As far as I'm concerned you have to be functionally retarded to not get at least a 40 But i've heard of multiple <15.

76 on is great on the pre test. I got a 67 on the practice and a 85 on the real thing no studying in between. With that score all my line scores were above 120 and could pick and choose what I wanted to do.

any /marines/ have experiance with 0651 data network specialist?

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guy came into my work today and basically told me to consider the national guard or something like that. He told me I could basically live where I live now, with 1 month and two weeks in summer gone basically, with a chance of being deployed.

He said it would be good experience for me since im trying to be an LEO (I only have a few college classes under my belt). SOmething to consider or was he full of it?

>>29907596
He's generally correct. But even being an MP doesn't translate that well to LEO since they have their own SOPs and ways of doing things, I guess he was referring to the discipline and training in general.

>>29907596
That's basically what the guard is. Active duty guys WILL give you shit be aware.

If you plan on going law enforcement anyway why not just go 11X for three years though? Or even 31B.

>>29907692
>active duty guys WILL give you shit
ok im an idiot. does this mean people who are fully enlisted (not reserves I mean) from major military branches give you shit for not committing fully to the Army or the marines or something? I don't thin kit would really bother me, but Id like to know if its for a reason or if its just hazing of other branches like I hear most of the military does to eachother

>why not go 11X or 31B
im still considering it, but im about to turn 25, and everyone I talk to keeps saying im too old.

>>29907792
>but im about to turn 25, and everyone I talk to keeps saying im too old.
Fuck em. Someone will always have something negative to say. That's when I joined I don't have a single regret other than not losing the 100lbs earlier so I could join when I first considered it.

You want to do it? Do it.

>>29907792
Mostly hazing, but some guys take the "weekend warrior" shit to heart. It's on the same level as the guys who take "chairforce" or "everyone in the navy is gay" shit a little too seriously.

Prior enlisted marine here

K so I want to try and get an OCS slot. From my understanding from what my army friends say is that I dont get to pick an MOS or anything. Thats absolutely terrifying why is that even a thing? I want to eventually get into PSYOPS or MISO and from what I understand they dont take butter bars. Will a shit ass branch have an effect on me being able to do either of those things?

Am I going to get stuck as a food specialist platoon commander?

>>29906672
fuck is bubbly. Yes be quiet,in basic under the radar, when you get to the unit you'll be brainwashed, be that way.

Work is work, when your off work your off work. When nco's talk to you stand at parade rest answer their questions or what they ask of you, don't call them bro, dont try and get comfortable with them. Dont talk too much, and dont give too much of your opinion, be comfortable and have good banter, but dont piss people off is basically waht it comes down to, and dont be that guy. What do i mean by that guy? For you if your bubbly it'll be that guy that talks to much, or cant shut the fuck up.

Watchout too, because fraternization can be a big deal. Some NCO's are really cool, total bro. Some act like it outside of work, but are psychopaths. The night before you'll be drinking with a psychopath bro-ing out at a strip club. The next he'll be smoking you in the morning because you have liqour on your breath, even though he was there too. Or one minute at work they'll be cool, the next heaven forbid you didnt stand at parade rest when talking to them as your working or some shit.

>>29906960
not anymore, those contracts are gone. If you do only do helicopters because fixed wing dont have as many options

>>29907863
>>29907792
Mostly its because after bct and ait you go home, while AD gotta travel and show up to a new unit and go through that hazefest. Ft couch ain't bad if your older, you can train in something practical, apply the experience to the workforce, utilize tuition assistance and get "preferential treatment". But also Nasty Girls give you a chance to develop connections and networks from others near you.

One thing i remember getting out with the RCCC? The end counselor guy for reserves and shit trying to get you to sign up. I talked to him he said he used to be a Nasty Girl forever before what he does now, said that all the AD guys that came off and showed up to unit he would get them a job at his restuarant to get em on their feet.

>stay at MEPS hotel
>wake up with weird indent marking on my penis
>get really weird body rash that came and went
>lip was swelling up
>this never happens
>these symptoms go away
>it hits me much later on someone may have used drugs on me and played with my peepee in my sleep
>pretty sure no one would believe me but I still have a slight indent scar on my peepee and no clue how it got there
>rash eventually goes away and lip never swells up again
>people were doing this fucked up shit to me prior to service like slipping me mickeys and shit
>mfw 2 months of service because I couldn't take it
>mfw I consider reenlisting into another branch thinking "that kind of shit won't happen again"
>mfw I go to bed with violent revenge fantasies about how I never made it through training
>mfw I realize combat is probably 10x worse than having someone drug you and squeeze your peepee or put shit in your drink

Hold me /k/.

>>29908057
Going to the MEPS hotel tomorrow night. What should I expect? I know I'll have a roommate but anything else happen other than sleep?

>>29900098
Getting taped tomorrow, should be below 26% and start my paperwork. 68W here I come

>>29908057
>probably had allergic reaction to the soap or the detergent they use on the sheets
>so fucking paranoid he ruins his own life
>blames "The MEPS Rapist" for his failures

>>29908126
I stayed 2 nights
>first night was a super gay Navy hopeful that wouldn't shut up about grindr, dicks, and donald trump. also refused to wear clothes, walked around in his underwear or towel the whole time
>second night, super autistic school shooter 17 year old that asked the most off the wall shit and had nervous tics

>>29908202
>people had put things in my drinks and done similar shit before
>have traveled to different states and hotels before never experiencing this
>brought my own hygiene products
>literally woke up with an indent on my genitalia

Fukofffagit

>>29908252
you're delusional

>>29908267
1/10

>>29908057
>>29908252

Lmao. Literally just laying in bed, having a giggle. Dude wtf.

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Just enlisted recently with the USAF, I'd be going in as an E3; Perfect vision and hearing and high 90s on the ASVAB. I'm not out of shape, but not a gym rat either.

I'm sitting on my ass until the recruiter gets back to me with an opening for either aircraft mechanic or avionics. I'm just wondering if it's possible to switch my asfc to EOD after I get my licensing in avionics or AnP. Either that, or switch to anything that would put me overseas that isn't necessarily special forces - I'm no pj.

Sorry if this is a stupid question; Recruiter is no help, obviously.

>>29908296
I'll humor you/take the bait, since the thread is almost over and its late
>has happened to you before
you have shitty situational awareness if someone gained access to your food or drink. more than once.
>at MEPS
so your fucking boipussy is so desirable, that someone would be willing to ruin their career before it even starts, and quite possibly go to prison? i don't know how your recruitment process was, but it was a little more than
>hi nice to meet you anon, you're going to MEPS tomorrow, here's the hotel.
some kid went through a process to even get to that point, just to rape a dude?
>indent on genitals
i don't even know what this means
>travelled before and never had this reaction
yes, all hotels use Hotel Inc Brand Soap. I've stayed in many many hotels all over the country and world. every once in a while, the sheets might make you itch a little, or the soap in the bathroom might dry your skin out or make you break out
>1/10
pretty decent score, but since you made me reply, I'll give you a 6.

>>29908407
Why not PJ?

>>29900098
What's life like after 18X? What career path do green berets follow after their service? PMC?

>>29908483
contracting , teaching, State Dept

>>29908409
I'm really not trying to play the "I was raped" card. I had a fingernail shaped indent on my shaft. It almost looked like someone with long/sharp fingernails just dug into my penis. I really wish I was making this up. I don't know how, but I woke up with an indentation or a mark on my shaft.

And yes, prior to my enlistment process a had a string of bad luck (parents were being slightly abusive and leaving food out with shit in it and gaslighting me, neighbors for seriously fucking with me and provoking me almost nonstop, some fags I knew were taking advantage of my shitty situation, even a gas station clerk slipped some hallucinogenic shit into one of my drinks)

My life was a cruel joke there for a while.

>>29908501
get help and stop hanging around so many fags

>>29908501
I wake up with scratches on my face sometimes. Only logical conclusion is I'm the one that did it. I highly doubt it's my wife.

You scratched your own penis, and you're legitimately batshit.

>>29908483
Just not fit enough, plus I'm good with electronics and EOD seems like it would be more my field.

PJ is too brutal.

>>29908539
he tyler durdened himself at MEPS

>tfw your alterego is a gay rapist

>>29908539
I am not bat shit. I may be wrong about the penis indentation, but the other things happened, which instilled paranoia and I simply couldn't be sure.

>>29906550
This is such a fucking urban legend. You can't race your piss test to the lab by self-enrolling. Self-enrolling also doesn't automatically protect you, commanders are just supposed to take it into account when they determine how hard to fuck you.

ausfag here if any of you are interested?

>>29906722

In the Army, you get a job in your contract. If you fail to meet the requirements of the job you picked then you can get sent "needs of the Army".

>>29907934

You're way overthinking this. Officer jobs are 90 % the same regardless of where you end up. You're a manager/planner. You aren't going to be doing the hands-on job, so it matters much less than you think.

The biggest difference is during your first couple years, but after that you're riding a desk regardless. Look into "branch detailing" if you're that concerned about it, it's where other branches with few O1/O2 slots loan their junior officers to branches with a lot of O1/O2 slots (like infantry) for the first few years of their career.

>>29903877
Dude, don't be sad. I joined in 2012 with lesser scores then that. My first APFT in OSUT was a fucking 50. 10 correct push ups, 25 sit ups and a 28 min 2 mile and I weighted 220 points.

You going to get chewed up. You're going get make fun of, you're going get fucked up.

But if you can face those fears everyday and not quit, you'll become something more.

Because it happened to me. I was in Alpha Co. 2-58 under 4th Platoon Warriors and I was constantly made fun of and dissed because I was the weak link who couldn't do shit, but I didn't quit.

I saved my anger and used it to keep going. I swear to what ever deity out there that when I passed the 200 point break, I was in tears. And when I took my last APFT and did 63 push ups, 77 sit ups and a 1300 flat two mile run, I fucking showed everybody.

Sixteen weeks of hell that I will never forget and it makes that blue cord even more precious because now you know how far you can go if you just have heart.

Because in my opinion, the badass mutherfucker is not the one who can life 500 pounds or can do etc, etc.

The badass is the man who is constantly afraid yet he is the one who gears up and walk in the face of his greatest fears every single time.

>>29909239
You're dumb enough to respond to a thread that's going to 404 soon. Checkmate Army.

>>29903429
sorry for long delay, but just a heads up, the language training is super short sighted. The 09L's I work with were recently told that if they don't speak Arabic or Farsi, they have to GTFO.

anyone know much about militarys who accept foreigners? I don't think I'll be able to get into my own countries.
Is the Foreign Legion worth looking at or is that just eye candy for the media and documentaries.

am I reading wrong or does USMC IFT/PFT not include push ups?

>>29909757

Correct, the "upper body" test for Marines is pull-ups.

>>29904227
anything

>>29900370
Or ITS, if you are going subs.
>>29908126
Literally, you are going to be staying in a nice hotel, enjoy it while you are there.

Who else is going to Boston MEPS hotel this afternoon and MEPS in the AM??

>>29910767