AR Thread / AR General /arg/

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>>29898417
Why would we acknowledge the inferior Armalite rifle?

>>29898450
It's pretty cool looking compared to the AR-15. Though that's completely subjective.

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IN IN IN

Waitin' for that paycheck. Bi-weekly pay sucks

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>>29898417
AR-18 fags have long been banned from the AR threads for being insufferable retards convinced that hammered sheet metal shit and muh piston operating system somehow equal a superior rifle, ignoring that the AR18 was designed as a low cost alternative to sell to 2nd rate countries that can't produce or mill aluminum forgings.
ultimately failing to receive any widespread adoption anywhere, besides derivatives of the design, such as the sa80, and the g36
objectively complete pieces of shit compared to the m16/m4

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>>29898417
Looks like a FAL

>still waiting on light mount
fuck

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>>29898539

>>29898461
It's interesting looking in a cheap and shitty build quality kind of way, but it doesn't look better than any standard AR.

>>29898506
Basically this. The AR-18 is a curiosity at best. It's loved almost entirely by autistic people who say shit like "IT COULD BE BETTER IF IT WERE MODERNIZED" then say "THAT'S TOO EXPENSIVE" when you point at the developmental ends of AR-18 upgrades. It's neat, but it's not superior to anything, which is fine because it's not meant to be.

>>29898557
Especially considering how god damn cheap the AR15 is nowadays anyway

>>29898570
Yeah but the AR-15 sucks compared to the AR-18 because it doesn't have a folding stock, it's too unreliable because it poops where it eats, it wasn't used by my favorite terrorist organization, and also because 18 is a higher number than 15.

>>29898576
>PISTONS!!!1!
>MUH LITTLE ARMALITE

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>tfw no Arms Material Multi-purpose Rifle System model 4
This could be a cool as fuck rifle IRL
Short stroke piston
14.5 or 16 inch barrel?
5.56 and stanag mags
Left side charging handle where it belongs

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>>29898593
the fact that they made fictional weapons in mgsv pissed me off to no end

but at least they look like feasible practical designs that would fit right into the 80s

still i can't get over not being able to operate with an M16A1
i can never forgive hideo kojima for that

>>29898506
That sounds pretty harsh, but I'm sure it more of because the fact that they annoying.

>>29898417
I own one, but it's more of a safe queen/investment plus a curiosity. Would post pics but I'm on my laptop.

>>29898645
they are to AR threads as VZ58 fags are to AK threads

luckily AR-18s are prohibitively expensive, being such a shit weapon they never achieved any commercial success

>>29898506
What killed the AR-18 for me was when it popped up in the Terminator. Completely ignoring the fact that it was a movie, they started to dick hop on it like it was the best thing ever.

>>29898647
What's it like?

>>29898667
I've only ever shot it twice (parts are non existant). It had quite noticeable recoil, I don't know if it had to do with the gas piston operation or not. But it wasn't very pleasant.

Ded

Night time arg

Thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyRX7U0oL2Q

>>29898628
Yeah but the weapons that are there are pretty damn cool

Do lowers ever go on sale?

Are the spikes lowers that are $89.99 the best bang for your buck?

Looking to purchase a lower or two before the next presidency but I don't want to buy them just to see they are 20% off the next week.

>>29898998
Anderson can be had for $50. Check your LGS. If they are more than $60 they are trying to play you.

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I actually really like the ACSS reticle TA31

Does ACOG green blend in with leafy greens or is there a contrast?

Also, AR18 a massive shit

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Morning queers.

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>>29898417
What do you guys think would be the best optic that can fit on my 7.5" AR but still fit in my asshole?

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>>29899236
It's not morning here in euroland

>selling mbus pro front sight
>random saying that the screw look tired
>mounted on my AR
>that's all that happened
>what he saw is dust
>how stupid french scooters can be ?

>>29899254
Aimpoint micro T2 for smoother lines. Best for butthole introduction

>>29899172
>tfw I paid 100 bucks for a spikes lower during the gun control scare


It was marked 110

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>>29899236
morning m80, ya still selling your scope?

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>>29899275
I'm just going to nod and pretend I understood all of that Frenchbro.

>>29899307
Not actively. I've been...distracted.

>>29899337
That one of them fancy vr machines?

>>29899337
What part you didn't understand vr bro ?

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>>29899283
Guess I paid more then I thought

>>29898417
they thougth had me cornered, but i gave them frigth, with armour piercing bullets of me little armalite...

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>>29898417
ar15>ar18

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>>29898417

>>29899456
Never post again kthx

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>>29898649
Hey, that's my line

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>>29899461
no

>>29899456
ugly fagit

>>29899473
Yes. Pls kys ya freak

>>29899482
>>29899476
Getting kinda sick of this guy

>>29899490
I know. sakuya is a dumb faggot

>>29899490
so?

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>>29899498
nice same

>>29899511
Ebin. Go back to /brg/

>>29899447
Pls look
>>29899220
Are ACOG backup sights actually functional?

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>>29899490
i glad dubs didnt give u a good name fagit

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>>29899511
We posting blown up ARs

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>>29899534

>>29899517
>Are ACOG backup sights actually functional?
yes, i can hit the backstop with them at 100yrds.
other than than, not really, they will put the rounds in the general direction but trying to hit a 8" plate will be a bit tricky.

if you need to use the acog buis then just take it off and use your actual sights.

>the two shittiest trips are posting in /arg/

>>29899553
Which two?

Trannyfag and who?

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>>29899553
draco isnt here?

>>29899519
I'm sorry I delivered

>>29899553
>two
But you're here anon

>>29899553
i better be one of those, or i'll find you and annoy the hell out of you irl.

>>29899556
Fluffy

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>>29899592
What ever you say baby

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>>29899592
There is literally nothing wrong with shitposting

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>>29899612

>>29899612
When it's all you do, yes its wrong

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>>29899626
jesus dat reese's massacre

>>29899638
why are you in arg then?

>>29899456
Thing looks like a fuckin blaster from Ster Wers

>>29899626
Pic is too high quality for shitpost try again

What if they made an AR that shot real bullets, like .50 cal

>>29899667
Anon confirmed shit post King

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>>29899667
they called it the ar10 and it shot 308

>>29899675
>>29899682
kys

>>29899682
Haven't you seen? 6.5 is scientifically better than 7.62 now

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>>29899689
Ha ha

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>>29899697
yeah well 6.5 isnt at my walmart and they dont make a scar or FAL in it so its useless to me

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>>29899709
That receiver is probably still functioning, and

>going to wallmart
>ever

Fucking degenerate

>>29899220
No the green reticle doesn't blend in to nature. It's also easier to see in low light

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>your package has been transferred to UPS mail innovations facility

fug.

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>>29899952
there is literally nothing wrong with UPS mail innovation facility

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>>29899952
Yeah well my memeout ammo hasn't even begun it's journey to me.

>>29899968
>>29899981

This will be my first time dealing with them, it's an order from midwayusa who are usually really quick so I guess we'll see.

>>29899992
it usually takes a max of 1 day longer for me to get stuff but others have bad experiences

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How the fuck can he find it to be "tired" ffs, it's like brand new

>>29900025

I just want my trigger before the weekend so I can go try it out

>>29900036

whats all this

>>29900055
what trigger?

>>29900066

just an ALG ACT, nothing too exciting.

>>29900055
>mfw mbt still hasn't shipped
What trigger ya get?

>>29900105
oh, better than milspec

>>29899952
>UPSMI
Yeah, have fun with that. NDS upper sat in Springfield, MA for two days before finally moving on to VT. Got in three days later than scheduled.

>>29900105
How's the ACT? I'm planning for a QMS myself.

>>29900105
Don't you have a geissele?

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>Manticore brake finally sold after some kike tried to Jew me down to 20
>ARMS light mount just now sold to some Nip who is probably going to mount it on his airshit AR
Heh.

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>>29900132
mail innovations is fucking disgusting
my back ordered shit from larue shipped a week ago and it still has one day left on the ETA

i'm blaming nick for this

>>29900153
i put it on my watch list just for fun :^

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>>29900114

here >>29900105

>>29900121

I guess it comes with two springs, either 4.5 or 6.0 lbs. 4.5 is about as light as I really want, its a HD gun too after all.

>>29900132

yeah after reading your horror stories I was pretty rustled to see that development in the tracking info.

>>29900147

I've read nothing but good things, my only ALG experience is the AKT in my SLR which is fantastic.

>>29900148

nah, just milspec from aero
anyone looking for a weapon light - midway is running 40% fury lights right now

>$200 for an M600p

>>29900169
>>$200 for an M600p
Does it say how long the deal is good for? I'm at work and can't into purchase now

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>>29900166

God I want to hate you so badly for being a fag most of the time but you have some cool shit. Is that 17s 13"?

>>29900181

cant find anything saying how long they're running the deal unfortunately.

>>29900169
>$200 for an M600p
fuck, that's cheap, just wish it was a m300v

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>>29900191
no it's 16''

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>>29900166
I sent an email to Brownell's telling them to ditch that bullshit and that I wouldn't be buying from them again until they did so. Yeah, I was (and still am) pretty mad after my package went MIA for two days after being "delivered".
>i put it on my watch list just for fun
You and about three others from here I'd wager, and my liver is that much closer to shutting down as a result, fuckwad.

>>29900181
go to the bathroom and buy one from your phone, make sure to get tan.

>>29900195
fugg. Thanks for the heads up anywho, if it's still up later I'm buying ine

>>29900216
>tan
But my guns black

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>>29900169
>yeah after reading your horror stories
It's officially a deal-breaker for me now. If you offer UPSMI, I straight up won't do business.

>>29900229
but tan is sexy

>>29900201

see I'm a big fan of the high output lights, but I wish I'd seen this deal before I spent $230 on my M600U without a tape switch.

Why exactly are the 300's so damn pricey?

>>29900220

I just checked the email they sent about that deal, they're running it through may 15 (while supplies last)

>>29900232

this is the first time midway has used them for me

>>29900213
i stopped buying from brownells for doing that shit
and midway if i can help it.

they both used USPS before and that gets to my po box in 3 days tops

>>29900235
idk senpai

>>29900238
thx bb

>>29900229

Get a tan one, wait a week and trade it for two black ones. Tan got discontinued and people started going apeshit on pricing for anything tan.

>>29900238
the v is pricey because of ir light but the regular m300 is only $200 on ebay.

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>>29900255
>he buys "surefire" products on ebay

>>29900255
Enjoy the airshit

>>29900259
it's only a problem if you are retarded.
i have had zero issues.

>>29900254
well shoot maybe

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>>29900266
please just fucking kill yourself already

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>>29900267
>i have had zero issues.

You also have zero Surefires

>>29900281
ok

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I want to start building my own AR. Any brands to avoid? Any to look for? What materials should my 80 lower be made of? What price range should I stick to? Are Ares Armor as shitty as people say? Who killed Mr.Burns?

>>29900277
I'm starting to like it when people tell me to kys cause I know I won the argument

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>>29900255

ah that makes sense

>>29900259

you can find a lot of good shit on ebay. I got my PC on there. brand new, discontinued color, still cheaper than buying new from LBT directly.

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>>29900281
if you manage to buy fake shit off ebay you're seriously retarded

>>29900308
i mean if you have to convince yourself of that, that's pretty pathetic

protip: it's because people really want you to actually kill yourself

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>>29900259
>>29900281
You're the special kind of 'tard who buys blatant chink "clones" of KAC 200m BUIS and goes to Barfcom screaming how every offering outside of Knightarmco.com is a fake. :^

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>>29900309

Nylon gear doesn't equate to highly-couterfeited electronics.

>>29900310

Nice airshit. I'm sure it's real though, your eBay seller is probably a real straight-shooter. Lots of legitimate businesses sell their non-counterfeit wares on eBay for far less than you can find anywhere else. Good purchase, queerbait.

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>>29900229
>paint rifle and light

I don't see what the problem is

>>29900235
But one tan light would make his rifle as aesthetic as pic related. You know it to be true

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>>29900325

Good insult.

Guys, I just found some great deals on Surefire products at aliexpress

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>>29900335
well if it wasn't real, it probably is now considering surefire took it for warranty work and replaced the bezel

>>29900356

I'm just certain that happened!

http://www.aliexpress.com/premium/surefire.html?ltype=wholesale&d=y&origin=y&isViewCP=y&catId=0&initiative_id=SB_20160510074502&SearchText=surefire

Guys I think I stumbled on to a treasure trove here. Surely people wouldn't just buy these and list them on eBay with a Surefire stock photo. eBay just has really good deals.

>>29900335

except there are lots of LBT fakes, just learn how to spot a fake and make sure there are plenty of pictures before you buy.

>>29900351
I will paint it eventually

>>29900366
r u dumb

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>>29900366

>buying products listed with stock photos only

>getting assmad about people finding deals on expensive products

>getting more booty bothered when you realize you're the only one who got ripped off buying counterfeit shit

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>>29900366
alright friendo

>>29900369
you have to look at seller ratings
if they screw you over with a fake, ebay and paypal will help you fuck them over pretty hard
they're extremely buyer biased

>>29900232
what is uspsmi exactly?

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>>29900374

>winding up an ultimate zinger, I'll call this guy dumb on the Internet!
>>29900391
>>29900392

As long as you're happy with your "Surefire" lights, I'm sure they'll look good in your Instagram photos, Christ knows they're not going to get used for anything else.

>>29900392

yep, I even do that with amazon. I'll pay a few bucks more to buy something from a vendor with 98% positive vs save a few shekels from a vendor thats reviewed 75% positive.

>>29900394
UPS MAIL INNOVATIONS
the absolute worst shipping service

if anyone ever ships you anything using that without informing you
tell them you will never do business with them agian

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>>29900366
Pic related is 89.99 should I do it ? Looks like a hell of a deal

>>29900411
I've gathered that from the thread so far but I dont know what the premise is or what makes them so bad

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>>29900399

What does /k/ think of the DPMS Oracle?

>>29900416
UPS takes it halfway then hands it off to USPS for final delivery

it costs the same as just using USPS but takes twice as long

>>29900428

you can build something nicer for the same price.

>>29900416
>>29900430
i think they're calling it surepost now

>>29900428
For the price build your own and it will be better. Plus you can do it slowly so you aren't breaking the bank if you have adult things to deal with.

>>29900055
>>29899275
just that. Some dude wants to buy mbus pro sights, I have one front light, like new, only mounted once and the guy is like "oh but the screw looks pretty tired" wtf dude

>>29900416
UPS Jews out in the worst possible way by having the local USPS handle the last leg of the journey. This is coupled by them using USPS shipping sites for transfers, and they won't even bother picking up what's out to be shipped until it warrants a truck. The result is a horrifically inefficient and often delayed service that also increases the chances of shit getting lost or taking a scenic tour of half the country due to the increased number of transfers. It is quite literally the worst shipping service in the United States.

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Are they a meme ?

>>29900578
I will also add that, after talking to the employees in my small town, the USPS absolutely hates UPSMI because the meshing of operating and shipping procedures between the two entities is anything but smooth and seamless and they are frequently forced to pointlessly sit on packages for days at a time because UPS couldn't be assed to pick up the items.

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>>29900602
If they're put on anything other than a 9mm build; yes. Enjoy your snakeoil.

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>>29900169
I fucking love you!!!

Just bought one! OMG thank you!

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>>29900602
yes
im still waiting for someone to sperg out on me

>>29900627
idk, looks neat to me

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>>29900602
Yes and no

But they look wicked fucking cool

>>29900666
Not on that shit build

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>>29900622

alright, calm down.

>>29898628
political reasons

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>>29900722
Bruh, those fucking lights are spensive and i'm a SF fuckboi

>>29900722
id fuck those tits

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>>29898628
>the fact that they made fictional weapons in mgsv pissed me off to no end
The only thing that really pisses me off about that is how so many people excuse it for
>"but muh customization..."
As if there weren't assloads of modifications done to weapons during the later decades of the Cold War. Doubly confounding were the fictionalized vehicles.

>>29900169
Thanks for the heads up on the light. I had gotten the email but didn't look further into it.

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>mystic black bcg was in stock 2 days ago

>go online to order one today

>out of stock

>>29898660
>What killed the AR-18 for me was when it popped up in the Terminator

But that's the reason I like it

Shit. The dad doesn't want a sopmod clone anymore. He wants a DD or geisselle handguard

>>29900837
It was out of stock last night. I wanted to order the carrier with the key and just drop my LMT bolt in but all out

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>>29900794
clearly it was to market and sell new airsoft guns

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Would it be legal for me to paint my flash suppressor neon orange?

I want to powder coat my AR like this.

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>>29900896
I dunno how valid that is, and I don't exactly have to search for reasons to hate airshit. Also doesn't explain the vehicles.

>>29900927
NO. Orange tips are for TOY guns only, hence why niggers can't figure out that when they paint the tips black to rob people they get shot by the the cops.

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>>29898417
i got one because theyre neat and i have more than a few ARs already. same with the daewoo

>>29900939
Well obviously orange signifies that it is a toy, but is there actually a law that prohibits real guns from having orange tips? It would provide incredible camo for certain areas.

>>29900883

guess ill go back to checking the site daily. next time im not gonna fuck around when i see it back in stock

>>29900953
Yes there is, there's been a law since 88

>>29900965
I just did it on a whim, but yea you shpould check it daily. While it would add some gucci to the gun I'm just fine with my LMT BCG and I don't really need to replace it.

>>29900932
>Also doesn't explain the vehicles.
scale models clearly
nips love that shit

>>29900953
>>29900927
Laws. In the United States, federal law and regulations indicate that all airsoft guns transported or imported into the country must have a 6mm wide blaze orange tip or a blaze orange stripe 1 inch (2.54 centimeters) thick on both sides of the barrel.

I mean, all you had to do was a quick google search.

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just ordered my can... Now i'm fucking waiting on over 3 NFA items to be approved. gonna be a boring summer

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>>29900992
The two bombs were never enough.

>>29901030

What can?

I'm thinking about getting a Griffin Armament M4SD-II once I have my trust.


I can put my shit on a trust even though I'm under 21, right?

>>29901013
...Except that doesnt directly say that real guns CANT have orange tips, only that toy guns must have them.

Once again, is there a law that prohibits having an orange tip on a real gun?

>>29900989

LMT is probably the best standard bolt made right now unless you want to get their $180 model.

>>29901048
rugged surge 7.62 it's ugly but it's pretty versatile. And I think at least once person in the trust has to be 21. I'm probably wrong

>>29901063

I'll find out. And if not having my father on my trust would be wise.

>>29901054
Kys

>>29900989

I have a nice MI carpenter bolt, it has a really nice coating. Bolt and BCG is the only thing that's a pain to clean, which is why id like a cryptic

>>29901077
I just wanted it for gucci. I'm almost into 3 grand into the rifle, so I need to gucci it up for the thread.

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>M7 bayonet only just now shipped
>order placed a week ago today
bowles-airforce, I'm about to take a steaming shit on that 100% seller rating you got there.

>>29901069
You'll probably want him on there any way. when you have to go play fuck fuck games with the green weenie you can leave it with a trust member (your dad) instead of having to buy a safe the inhabitants of your house don't know the combo too like you would normally have to do.... unless he's a cunt. what ever you put in your trust technically becomes the property of who ever is on it so only put people who you trust to not fuck you over on it

>>29901107

>3 grand

Let's see that parts list

>>29901107

>not going pure GUCCI and getting a JP carrier and bolt

amateur hour

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>>29901113

Fair enough.

Did you see my new build yet? It's bretty gud. And I defintely see what you meant about magnified optics. The 3x is perfect and I don't feel like it slows me down in any meaningful way up close.

>>29901118
id also like a gander

Geisselle mk4 or mk8 in 13"?

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>>29901118
>>29901142
I'll just show you the gun. I just really really liked this whole setup versus building one.

>>29901120
2gucci4me

>>29901155
So sexy... I'd put my big magazine in her oily magwell and slam it. Then I'd rack her and bang her again and again and again and again.

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>>29899456
High speed low drag.

>>29901186

I've been giggling at your pepe for a solid minute now.

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>>29901155
>still sticking with egg carton foam
Man, what is the deal with all these plebs in here?

>>29901155

How much you pay for the ACOG

>>29901155
>counting optic price
that puts a lot of guys at $3k or more. it like to see an assembled out of parts kommando owned semi auto AR for $3k

>>29901216
meant to add, $3000 without optics

>>29901144

MK8 unless you want to use a bipod.

>>29901216

yeah you would have to work hard to get a rifle build to tip $3k and it would be mostly boutique shit in the build.

>>29899832
Anybody know what charging handle that's based on? I'm kinda digging it

>>29901216
>an assembled out of parts kommando owned semi auto AR for $3k
You've passed the point of diminishing returns a long fucking time ago at $3k if optics don't even begin to enter the equation.

>>29901265

bcm gunfighter with the large latch (had one. hated it)

>>29901280
im not arguing that, i would just like to see if it exists here. suppressors dont count either
>gucci king, ruler of all that is gucci
id imagine its have to have one of those christian carbon fiber wrapped barrels

>>29901280

b-but gucci...

>>29901310

it would be very hard to do. I had to struggle just thinking of a parts list that would top $3k.

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>>29901134
Nice. no offense to the guac but I like the bottom one better. when you gonna come test it?

>>29901192
When I'm finally happy with the rifle I'll get a proper case for it. For now, this will work.

>>29901310
A rollmarked lower would almost be a necessity.

>>29901364

I dunno. I just got a car, so maybe soon.

And I think I'm going to paint the bottom one flat brown, then tigerstripe the green over it.

Going to sight the new one in on Wednesday. Much excite.

>>29901203
1140 new.

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>>29900602
depends on where you put them on

>>29901407
this picture is visual AIDS

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>>29901428
here you go, now you can pretend it's a 223 lower

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>>29901473
no that doesn't help
it's the selector markings, the pins, the trigger, grip, background, just everything really

>>29901503
>pins
have you ever experienced wandering pins ?
no ?

mate next to me had his milspec pins fall out of his 9mm during a stage leading to his gun going on a full auto rampage until the mag was empty

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>>29901544
not all anti walk pins
just those ones in particular

>>29901192
>getting a case that costs half as much as the rifle being put in it
>calls others plebs

>>29901112
ruin that shit

>>29899490
Welcome to the boat you're in.

>>29901572
>a case that costs half as much as the lower
FTFY :^

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Anyone want a PA gen 3 light? Only $20

>>29901734

Done.

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>>29901734
Wrong picture

>>29901753

Sign me up.

>>29901766
The sign up fee is $10

>>29901784

This is fucking bullshit. When I cancel in 4 months your people are going to keep calling me for the next 2 years asking me if I want to re-up.

>>29901797
goy it's only a one time fee

>>29901810

Seriously though, are you selling me the light?

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>>29901753
>>29901797
it's a good light... I'd buy it for that price if I didn't already have 2

>>29901830

Pretty much. What M-LOK mount do you use?

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>>29901835
Nigger rigger 2.0 ™

>>29901816
I'll post some pictures of it when I get home

>>29901850

I'm probably going to buy an offset mount actually. I want to mount it at 9 ocock.

>>29901852

Alright, I'm assuming you took good care of it, so I'll paypal you the cash as soon as you are ready to ship.

>>29901860

And by 9 I meant 1.

Because I am the retard.

>>29901860
>I'm assuming you took good care of it
Yeah something like that

>>29901873

Can you at least include a picture of a dickbutt in the package?

>>29901881
I only send pics of pupper

>>29901905
I never thanked you for that 2nd amendment sticker you sent with the patch

>The status of your order (redacted) at Larue Tactical has been changed to "completed".
We /mbt/ soon

>>29901942
np senpai

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>>29901956
speaking of larue

barrels are on sale again
for $225 this time

Damm AAC has dropped the price on there old school cans sold a cyclone 762 for 525.

>>29901753
Getting that surefire as a replacement?

>>29901956
Nice how long was your wait?

>>29900277
I push lever to the right. There are plenty of good anime songs and All Star would be a terrible last song to hear so I figure the odds are good I'll get one better than All Star.

>>29898417
The fuck does nobody make a modern ar18 for us market?

Any way to make a ar15 look like one with piston upper?

>>29902440
the ar180b. or maybe a scar or acr if you wanted to loosen your criteria

>>29901734
Holy shit that's a deal. I already have one but otherwise I'd be on that shit like a drunk teen girl in Amsterdam.

>>29899490
kys

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Are these any good? Primary Arms 5x compact prism scope with ACSS reticle. Looks like it would run almost $400 with the QD mount and all the little doo-dads you need to buy for it. I'd be putting it on a standard PSA 16" 5.56 AR that cost about $550 total. Just looking for a magnified optic that's not too big (ex., not like a standard scope for a hunting rifle). I wouldn't be hunting with it, just shooting paper. My price range for an optic is up to $600 max, preferably much lower.

http://www.primaryarms.com/primary-arms-5x-prism-scope-with-patented-223556-545x39-308-acss-reticle/p/kt-pac5x/

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Hey guys can I get opinions on which of the sights listed to go with? I am looking to put it on a decent 16" build, which has a CMC 3.5 lb single stage trigger.

Its a general purpose AR, with most of its time at <100 yards, however I would like to push it out to 300 eventually.

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>>29902505
I have the 4x, it's a good piece of glass and I love the reticle, but for that money I'd probably go with the 1-6x instead.

>>29902513
>Vortex Viper PST 1-4x has a price of 650$
what the fuck that's not possible

>check homepage
price is correct, wtf
when did that happen ?

(but the Strike Eagle has an MSPR of 450, not 500)

>>29902542
Those prices are including the mounts in particular I want to get. and are really just estimates.

>>29902565
don't expect too much out of the Strike Eagle

the prototypes they had at gunshows before the release had glass equal to the Viper PST 1-4x
was set on getting one as well because that was too got do be true
equal glass, more magnification, cheaper price ? fuck yeah

but this year when I finally got my hands on the retail ones it was rather disappointing to see that they had lowered the glass quality to the corresponding price range

>>29902537
>go with the 1-6x instead.
I actually have owned this in the past and hated it. It was too big and the quality of the optics was pretty bad - narrow field of view and tons of distortion, which made 1x barely usable and higher magnifications a little fuzzy on high contrast objects. Really just looking for something closer to a poor man's ACOG in size and function, so looking at compact scopes only.

>>29902609
Damn. Out of the magnified optics I listed, it has my favorite reticle. The PA 5x someone posted above has a nice one too, but I don't want a fixed power scope over a variable.

For that guy in last thread near to end asking anout phosphated vs melonite.

Phosphate is a exterior coat that hold oil very well and melonite is just a type of nitriding for bore to enlong the life of bore but can be also applied on exterior.

The phosphate barrel you are looking at, check if bore is chromelined if yes thats better one if no the another's better.

>>29898510
Stuipd confirmed.

Get your eye checked.

>>29902513
Do people really shoot out to 300 yards with 1x red dots?

Giddy post your rifle + can
I'm unable to post from home right now but I'll transparent it and get it back to you later tonight or tomorrow.

>>29902648
I don't think its common, but possible to shoot gongs and such.

>>29902513
Strike Eagle or PRO

I was looking to do what you did, but decided on a 4x32 instead.

>>29902631
dude, it's a 329$ street price optic

what more can you ask of it ?

>>29902186
I think midway has a munch of sure fire lights on blast.

>>29902648
Yes, at steel. Just know your drop.

>>29902690
Wut

You mean Midway has a bunch on sale? No shit, Psi mentioned it earlier.

>>29902613
Damn, I really hope that's just you being an optics snob and not a truly objective assessment of the scope, as I have been meaning to get one for a while but they've been sold out...they seem pretty popular and I don't see many negative reviews on them...

All the PA optics are heavy. My 4x is heavy and the 5x is probably even heavier. It's just something I've come to accept from this price range, and you get durability in return.

Fuck me. Just walked into the gunsmith to ask if he could rebarrel a Garand and he had a Norinco SKS in really great shape. Paid $425 for it.

Too high for a chinkshit ripoff of slavshit? Maybe. But I like my SKS.

>>29902505

I just got one. It's bretty good.

>>29902648
Yes, it's hard to hit a person sized silhouette but do able, have a good zero and know your holds and it's very achievable.

>>29902722
Ya I get there email good deals pop up every once and awhile.

>>29902788
If you know your hold overs and have a solid zero,you would be surprised how far you can push a dot on man sized steel. I've gotten out to 600 yards with my m21 meprolight.

>>29902746
Maybe I'm a little bit of an optics snob, but I had been trying out different optics at the time, and the one I owned previously was a Redfield Revolution - just an inexpensive variable power Chinese scope, but the optical quality was....photographically sharp. I wasn't really digging the reticle and wanted something capable of going down to 1x, so I swapped for the PA 1-6x scope and it was like night and day. Maybe I shouldn't say that it was "barely usable," but it wasn't good either. Combined with the narrow field of view, I just ended up dumping it on Armslist and have been using a PA micro red dot since then.

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>>29902769
You got it home yet to take pics?

>>29902842
I've gone out to 500m with irons and a comp4, 650m with an Acog(TA01 master race). But that was after 2 full days of shooting and 1k rounds. It was a pain in the ass the first day with irons and dot, but fun.

>>29902869

Cleaning it up right now.

>>29900428
I built superior rifle for cheaper. Pn Oracle i would replace

- bcg for toolcraft
- rgb for clamp on fsb
- stock for car stock or fagpul acs or hk e1 even m4 waffleside would be better.


Dont buy/10

If you buy one you already spent more than you would building one during sale then even more when you replace shitty bolt when it break and shitty furniture when you had your fill of garbage.

Dpms ap4 carbine would be so much better. I would only replace the bolt for toolcraft and handguard for thinner a2 handguard and eventually the barrel when it get shot out.

I used to own dpms ap4 carbine bringback

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>>29902935
Is she a dirty little whore?

>>29902935
Clean faster fuck boi we demand pics

>>29902648
Yea and farther. Just need to be good shot and know your drop.

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>>29902963
How come you haven't ended your life yet?

You know the silence and loneliness will never end, so why continue?

>>29902985
Fluffy needs to do it first

>>29902769
Way too high. Paid 380 for my arsenal 26 about two years ago i restored it. Not reliable gun so i let it go.

I cant have a gun thats not reliable in my ownership always fixed it right away or sell it like hot potato. I trade it away for gun that have near 1k value to some old guy near Christmas. I presume hes doing it for his son or grandson.

>>29902999
Don't kill yourselves. You can make your lives great again.

>>29902985
Dude your imagination of my life are way off.

No wonder you are wondering.

>>29902746
>>29902537
Is the 4x version of this optic compatible with ACOG QD mounts? I notice PA says that the 5x one is, but doesn't mention it for the 3x or 4x versions.

>>29903033
By deporting themselves.

>>29903033
They can't. Besides, Fluffy is a Hillary supporter.

>>29903080
Sure he can, just give him an antidepressant to the back of the head.

>>29903076
I don't know, I've always just used the stock mount. Kind of got a bad taste in my mouth for QD mounts after the first one I bought was a total pos that couldn't even lock down correctly, and probably cost me more than a few places in 3gun matches...

>>29903099
Did you try an American Defense QD mount?

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>>29902869
>>29902944
>>29902952


Meine Simonov.

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Took this fat bastard out yesterday and put 60 rounds through it. First time I've had it out since I swapped the proprietary S&W buffer out for the A1 and a standard rifle. Performed well, zero issues with function, though the recoil impulse seems to be a little heavier than I remember. Could just be because I was shooting from prone and the hard plastic pad on the stock as opposed to the rubber on the Magpul I had on there. Considering looking into an extra heavy buffer or a stouter spring though.

Was having a little trouble zeroing the first 10-15 rounds, and couldn't figure out why. Was getting ready to check my mount but the next few rounds seemed to bring the zero in line and it shot well the rest of the day.

When I got home, I noticed the optic had shifted ~5/16" forward in the mount due to recoil. Couldn't get it to budge at all with my hand no matter how hard I pushed. This is fucking bullshit because I torqued everything to Leupold recommended spec with a torque driver. Had to loosen the rings up and re-set it, as well as re-level. Loctited everything and torqued it back down, a good bit tighter this time. Have to wait until my next range session to try it again. If it shifts again, I'm going to raise hell with Leupold.

Also put another ~200 rounds or so each through the AR15 and the SCAR.

So far, ~600 rounds through the Sig 516 upper with zero signs of cam pin wear, or carrier tilt. Flawless function so far, but I'll continue to keep an eye on it.

>>29902933
I've got to shoot with the acog before it's a blast really easy to get out to 600 yards.

>>29903138
Nice, Its always a good day when you add to the collection

>>29903127
Honestly I can't even remember what brand it was, when I bought it I knew very little about commercial AR products and thought it was madness how expensive a lot of the mounts were. I still think it's madness but now I know better what brands are worth a shot.

>>29903080
Bullshit.

>>29903071
Kys

>>29903138
Looks good Pham

>>29903150
Yup it is a fun time and shooting out that far is a humbling lesson.

>>29903190
He cares more about supporting his degeneracy than anything else.

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>Apparently, from 12-3pm, I will think every approaching diesel engine is the UPS truck
>second day in a row the delivery time lapses with nothing to show for it
The thirst for my A1 upper is so fucking real.

>>29903176

I'm starting to genuinely believe cheap mounts (~$100) aren't worth fuck all. See my post >>29903148 for an example.

It's a Leupold Mark II IMS 30mm and, when set up exactly according to instructions and factory recommended spec with a scope from the SAME manufacturer, allowed the optic to shift in the mount.

I was already planning on replacing it with a LaRue or similar, but I'll never bother with a cheap mount again.

>>29903280
Couldn't you compensate for this, like by putting thin strips of rubber in between the mount and the scope?

>>29903266
The local cops pull the fedex guy over all the time to get their stuff. It's hilarious.

>>29903280
Pretty much. Even certain mid-range options are disturbingly lemon prone. The first M-223 mount I ordered the front ring was wildly tilted and I didn't realize it was a defect until I took it to the range and maxed out my scope elevation trying to zero it.

Popped that thing in the mail back to Amazon and the replacement has been serving me well ever since.

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>>29903306
I'd join the force for that alone at this rate, fuck.

>>29903264
But is he a Hillary supporter

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Oh yeah, new thread :^
>>29903318

>>29903288

I could, and if it shifts again I'll probably end up doing either that or using a thin layer of loctite in the rings. At least until I buy a better mount.

The point it, I shouldn't HAVE to. I've never had this problem on any optics mounting set up before, when following factory mounting recommendations. I have a heavy Zeiss optic in standard Leupold dovetail rings on a relatively light bolt action .300WM and it has NEVER shifted.

Then this $100 piece of shit mount shifts on a semi auto .308 with a much lighter scope.

>>29902142
Fuck

>>29902186
Yeah

>>29902340
Like 3 months

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love this setup