This is the BMP-3, do you like it?

>>29885254

It's just a typical IFV right?

>>29885254
It'll look nice burnt out on the road to Moscow

>>29885254
Yes, it was pretty fucking cool in Resident Evil Damnation.

https://youtu.be/EiqMwvQJCsM?t=1m54s

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>>29885254
>two machineguns on each side of the front
Why?

>>29886278
When you've got both firing in opposite directions with tracer belts with the coax auto cannon in quick fire mode, it has to look pretty cool.

>>29886278
More dakka.

The Chinamen aren't going to kill themselves.

Not even rated to 14.5

>>29886481
but it is rated for 30mm, lad

>>29885254
I really dig the new paint job and star/ribbon thing Russia's got on their parade vehicles.

How come there aren't big parades like this in the US?

>>29885254

Can it withstand a .50 cal?

>>29886541
Because Vietnam.

>>29886541

Speak softly but carry a big stick, friend

>>29886518
It's got 35mm steel frontal but that doesn't mean it's rated to stop 30mm. I can't find any info from a quick google on its armour so I'll take your word for it

>>29886541
We don't wave our dick around. Cultural thing. Our parades have cartoon characters and corporate logos and smiling girls throwing flowers and cowboys on horseback... and *maybe* an old half-track with some aging veterans on it.

>>29886541
We do have such parades during Veteran's day but at the local level. I know over there in Cali we had a parade in Alameda. Loved the Black Hawk formation and that one Huey flying low at Park St.

>>29886782

What about airshows?

>>29886541
Because liberals are always for big government except for when it comes to anything military.

>>29886541
Cause country hating hippies

>>29886814
Bah. Find an airshow you don't have to pay admission for.

Plus, more than half the exhibits are civilian or archaic aircraft, as a general thing. They are not FUCK YEAH AMERICA chest-beating tax-subsidized displays of firepower flying over Main Street.

>>29886541
>How come there aren't big parades like this in the US?

Believe it or not, America does all its dick-waving just by being America all day every day. Everyone assumes that we have the best, or the most, or both, of everything we need to fuck the world up. So we don't really bother with parades.

Parades like this are mainly for nations whose people have some doubts about their military. They need to reassure their citizens from time to time, that their military-industrial complex is actually producing something besides corruption and fat cats.

In America, we have kind of the opposite problem: Too many citizens assume that our military-industrial complex is *too* productive. Nobody wants to see more of that shit. A lot of people would love to see a lot fucking less.

So, not so many fancy parades as you might expect from a failed-state oligarchy trying to impress its insecure citizens with empty shows of strength.

>>29886814
A leftover from the barnstorming area.

More of a live action recruitment add for the airforce, and A TON of civ aviation does stunts.

>>29886904
>a failed-state oligarchy trying to impress its insecure citizens with empty shows of strength
You have to admit we're making impressive strides in that direction, though. Substitute different metrics for the military -- like enforced equality of the sexes, jobs growth, welfare, etc.

>>29886518
Straight from Kurganmash's website.

>Дoпoлнитeльныe бpoнeвыe экpaны
>Oбecпeчивaeтcя зaщитa oт бpoнeбoйных бoeпpипacoв кaлибpa 12,7 мм

12.7mm AP when uparmored

>>29886976
It's a fair bit off 30mm
Also unarmoured with extra plate or what

>>29886965
Ha. Good point. But I would say that's not failed-state bullshit, so much as it is first-world-problem bullshit. The second world is still trying to make a show of its military. The first world has more than enough military, and has moved on to making a show of ensuring transfags can piss in whatever toilet suits their fancy.

>>29886541
>How come there aren't big parades like this in the US?
When was the last time the US won?
If there ever will be a parade it would have to be sandwiched by an LGBTFABCDE parade and a diversity parade.
Besides it would probably be insanely expensive in true American fashion, remember this is the country that throws half a billion dollars at marching bands alone.
Plus there is no shortage of disgruntled servicemen in active duty, march them in front of a podium full of people they loathe and you get the idea.
>>29886904
>jesus the amount of salt and projection in this post.

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>>29886782
>>29886782
>America
>doesn't wave its dick around at every given chance
Jesus Christ, what world are you living in tripfag?

>>29885254
>Side log

Holy shit such Nigger rigged

>>29888166
fucking backward slavs niggers. lockheed martin would've developed a multi-role log with advanced stealth features and avionics and had the bad boys rolling off the assembly line at a paltry $50 million a pop (after a 15 yr development cycle no less)

fucking keep up u subhumans

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>>29885254
I prefer BMD.

>>29886771
BMP-3 has aluminum armor and it is rated frontally against 30 mm AP (3UBR6) from around 300-500 meters.

>>29888575
35mm of strengthened aluminium rated against 30mm AP...

Love it

So many guns

>>29889343
>35mm
It is much larger than that.
http://andrei-bt.livejournal.com/194749.html

>>29888484
Expensive fragile CRAP
Team BMP for life

>>29889458
See >>29886976

I will take the word of the manufacturer over a blogger.

>>29890171
>I will take the word of the manufacturer over a blogger.
Link plz.

>>29886814
As people said more barnstorming and such. And we don't have like "national" ones.

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>>29885254
Very nice. We will buy some in 30 years.

t. Finnish Defense Forces

>>29890608

But you already have the way superior CV9035FIN. Buy more of those.

t. totally not a swede.

>>29890242
http://www.kurganmash.ru/machines/bmp3u/protection/shield/

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>>29885254
it's pretty stange

>>29890656
I think this is being misunderstood. I believe it is implying that the additional applique armour it is advertising protects against 12.7mm AP. I don't think it is saying that the total armour protection of the vehicle is only 12.7mm proof.

>>29885254

Armament is pure sex

Armor and a comfyness is terrible.

BMD series is also a lot more cute.

>>29890716
I've got to say, that armor on the doors seems fragile as fuck.

>>29890772
No, it clearly states that uparmoring raises its overall protection to 12.7mm AP

>>29890716
Where do the Russians go

>>29890772
>I believe it is implying that the additional applique armour it is advertising protects against 12.7mm AP

That is some impressive mental gymnastics.

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>>29890863
I remember building a 1:35 model of a BMP3 about a year ago. I just shook my head at the layout of the crew comprtment. They have to crawl over the engines into the center of the vehicle where the crew compartment and the turret is. The driver is at the centre front of the hull and two his left and right are two infantrymen who man machine guns.

I dont like to bash Russian stuff here because I feel they get a lot of hate, but the layout of the vehicle and the troop compartment is borderline retarded. Other than that, its a fine vehicle, at least as good as what you´d expect from an infantry fighting vehicle.

pic related isnt mine btw, its just a model image I found online, I stepped on my model by accident and crushed the turret...

>>29891053

I believe the general idea here is to achieve the lowest profile, tonnage and production costs possible while maximizing troop carrying capacity.

Look at soviet era vehicle design in the context of the cold war, not today's insurgencies. You need a vehicle to provide effective fire support for your infantry, cross rivers and be fast as fuck all while reducing the hit chance on the vehicle. To the soviets statistical probability was their key to survivability in a total war scenario. The soviets put far more thought into the vehicle's role as part of a whole rather than the vehicle's role as an individual asset, which is likely where this sort of thinking comes from and why factors like crew comfort or even crew survivability are put on the chopping block.

I have no idea how effective this design philosophy would be in the cold war but it has obviously not aged very well.

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>>29891229
>I have no idea how effective this design philosophy would be in the cold war but it has obviously not aged very well.
Im sure it would work well enough if you could get enough of these vehicles to attack like was the plan in the olden days but I see your point about how these things were not even remotely designed for modern day Insurgency king of fighting.

Does anybody know if the UAE lost any BMP-3s in Yemen recently?

>>29891429
kind of fighting I meant

>>29890656
This is side add-on armor skirts...

>>29891429

>Does anybody know if the UAE lost any BMP-3s in Yemen recently?

Only purportedly. There appears to be a conspicuous lack of ANY operations with BMP-3s globally. I have yet to see any videos, images or detailed articles of BMP-3s in combat.

>>29886229
Yeah, except these have the ability to break down in the middle of parades.

>>29886904
I want big dick parades because they look cool and you get to see the military hardware in person.

>>29886805
Coolest fucking thing I ever saw was when I was on a tour of Gettysburg at the hill of the last battle, and two A-10s dipped down into the valley and crossed paths. Patriot/10

>>29890907
Into the treads of the enemy tanks

>>29886904
>many fancy parades as you might expect from a failed-state oligarchy trying to impress its insecure citizens
>Implying murika isn't a failed state oligarchy
>Implying the endless Cop worshiping propaganda shows isn't the Govts way of brainwashing the populace into staying in line

Wew lad

>>29891837
Anarchist please, not all of us have a hard on for a Foundation-esque collapse of a mighty society into hedonistic tribalism bereft of reason and destiny.

But please, do prattle about your issues with authority manifesting as misplaced 'ideological consistency' in regards to extreme theories of individual rights.

>>29891837
Then why aren't there military parades?

>>29886278
port guns for the passengers, kinda like firing ports but fixed

>>29886229
Not really. It's very Russian. For the weight, it's troop and weapons capacity are insane, but there is little to be said for other qualities. It fits their doctrine snuggly, as Russia has unwashed legions of men who would need organic firesupport in a WW3 scenario.

>>29886278
Because possible threats from the front corbers and limited vision of turret mounted weaponry? Also, if the main gun has to engage targets in different direction, you still have the hull MGs operative for soft targets in front of the tank.

Do you even into common sense?

>>29886892
annual air and water show in Chicago

>>29891229
I can't find a current TOE, but I was under the impression that a motor rifle battalion had less then a half a dozen -3's in it for use as fire support, while the bulk of the boot bus work was handled by the -2's and BTRs.

>>29892051
I agree, anarchy is retarded.
Those who turn their guns in to plows, will plow for those who didn't.

>>29892588
Amen.

>>29890716
i never understood where the guys go in this thing, or on the bmd series.

like where the fuck d you stuff in 4, let alone 6 armed dudes in there

im sure the strategy is not 100% sitting on top of it?

>>29891429
>Does anybody know if the UAE lost any BMP-3s in Yemen recently?
They lost some to IED.

>>29893164
Around the turret basket and in the hull front.

>>29893199
Completely decimated one from a fuck huge IED didn't it?

>>29892246
>35mm frontal armor
SLAP or AP 50 bmg rounds can pen it

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>>29893164
>>29893326

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>>29885254
That 100mm + 30mm gets me hard as fucc

>>29885254
Designed for a war that never happened.
Other than that I can see it being good for firesupport in an insurgency, provided it has good air cover from ATGMs.

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>>29895045
I know that feel.

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itt: salty americans

>>29895466
Proving nothing. The post.

>>29886481
>>29886771
>>29886976
Take a look at the picture lads- the visible changes are to the sides which have now fair bit of armor. The up-armoring is for the sides, not the front which is good enough for 14.5mm and smaller.
>>29891053
>I dont like to bash Russian stuff here because I feel they get a lot of hate, but the layout of the vehicle and the troop compartment is borderline retarded. Other than that, its a fine vehicle, at least as good as what you´d expect from an infantry fighting vehicle.
Its not. It just demonstrates that the operational level of war takes precedence in their doctrine. Having fully amphibious vehicles actually opens up a lot of options for the commander for instance and forces the enemy to compensate for the additional mobility of the BMP-3. For instance you can no longer defend against BMP-3 formations crossing a canalizing bridge- you would have to spread your forces across the river bank- which makes your defence much weaker. In this regard the highly awkward layout pays off more than it costs. Plus its very comfy to sleep over the warm engine deck under a roof.

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It's nice but the bmp-2 has always been my favorite

>>29886782
fucking tripfag, i swear every post you make gets even more stupid each time you post

>>29886904
The parades is Russian military tradition from Peter I, you ignorant shit.

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BMP-3 is good for soviet\russian doctrine - tank rush with mechanized infantry support with excellent off-road abilities.
But it's starting to show it's age
Anyway - BMP-3M "Dragoon" > BMP-3
>front mounted engine
>ramp
>excellent crew ergonomic (dat internal space)
>3 RWS options - 100mm+30mm, 57mm & 125 mm

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>>29898148
kek, posted image for ants

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>>29898155
rear view

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>>29898163
ramp

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>>29898175
57mm unamnned turret

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>>29898197
>unamnned
unmanned

last pic - some dude with strong Pinochet\Gaddafi vibes.

>>29895907
I feel like the front could have used it more but to be honest, it's not really meant for anything but fast troop transport, like if Americans just admitted that Humvees are pointless to armor after a point.

Also don't think that exchanging the mobility of the previous gen was worth making it amphibious but then again I've never really saw it done right so we'll see, I guess.

>>29898222
That's what you find in the morning if you don't leave your BMP3M locked at night.

>>29885254
Isn't the armor paper thin on those?

>>29895466
>eurotrash calling anyone else "salty"

>>29898244
>I feel like the front could have used it more but to be honest, it's not really meant for anything but fast troop transport, like if Americans just admitted that Humvees are pointless to armor after a point.
It doesn't, its good enough. The wavebreaker is hard steel- they can always extend it and watch as autocannon AP rounds tumble and yaw a bit before impacting the Aluminium armor which is thick enough btw, but even if that still fails there is the huge fuel tank behind it still.

>Also don't think that exchanging the mobility of the previous gen was worth making it amphibious but then again I've never really saw it done right so we'll see, I guess.
Look at Kurganets- they substantially improved protection whilst retaining full amphibious capabilities through use of modern materials and smarter arrangement(the turret being unmanned allowed it to be moved further back) .

>>29894809
Frontal armor is higher than that and its rated against 30 AP.
AP 50 bmg rounds can't pen even BMP-2 frontally (see tradoc paper).