AR Thread / AR General / tripfag containment thread

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>>29884925
you just wait. one day i will get mega quints and it'll be qb is a butthead edition for a week.

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Sunday ARG is worst ARG

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>>29884925
in

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>>29884925
so i shot some groups today, wanted to zero my 14.5 with the can on.

>>29884485
>paying the government for the privilege of being a priority target for entry teams when the confiscation starts
Wew lad

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>>29884956
>not paying a $200 donation to the 'statistical firepower against the liberal enemy' fund.

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This one is my favorite... For obvious reasons.

Lasers are fun to play with.

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in

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then i shot like half of these groups before deciding i should see what it shoots like without the can.

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>>29884925
Thoroughly disappointed you haven't ended you're miserable existence yet. Hope you do so soon.

>>29884946
I'm sorry to tell you this but that is the ugliest fucking dog I have ever seen in my life.

So how do you like that stock?
They are too short for me :(

>>29884969
>paying a $200 donation to the agency that is the literal tip of the spear of liberal anti-gun efforts
I think you got it all mixed up there buddy, your fees fund the enemy.

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>>29885004
So post your Non paid for NFA shit then.

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>>29885022
>That dirt in the cracks
God I want that look

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>>29884995
so after shooting 3 or 4 incredibly bad groups, i decided to see if the can was the problem.
it wasn't.

i'm just going to assume i was having an off day or something, there is no way my barrel is fucked seeing as the last time i shot, i got 1.1moa 10rd groups.

however, the last time i got those groups, i only shot really well when the adj. gas block was closed.
i doubt that has anything to do with it seeing as the bullet should be long gone before the gas makes it's way to the bcg.

>>29885016
Non-paid for? What do you think I am, some sort of felon?

NFA shit is nice, but it isn't essential and it's a liability so I don't have any.

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>>29884925
What should I get next

>plates and a helmet
or
>accupower 1-4
or
>a car

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>>29885030

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In

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>>29885030
Shovel dirt on then wipe most of it away

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>>29885042
accupower then car

>>29885042
a noose

>>29885030
Then take your fucking rifle outside

>>29885042
plates and helmet

All the rest of that shit can wait, racewar nao

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>>29885038
>it's a liability
so is wearing your tinfoil hat near power lines, microwaves and normies

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>>29885030
I think last one.

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i really hope next week goes better, not sure what the fuck was going on today with those groups.

>>29885004
>paying a $200 donation to the agency
hey, retard, the money goes to the treasury not the atf.

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>>29885054
Probably will. Seems disingenuous to do so though.

>>29885057
I do, I just don't rub it in the damn dirt.

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>>29885068
It sure can be

>>29885042
T-that... F-footwear.

Vans atwood masterrace! enjoy your slippery hairy sole!

>>29884944
>>29884866

I hate you all.
I'll buy the birdcage one and keep a 3prong hidden in a drawer and when every single one of you dies I'll put it on and laugh.

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AR-180 > AR-15.

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>>29885004
The number of suppressors registered since 2012 totals more than the number registered from the establishment of the NFA to 2012. If you don't think that statistic helps us, you're stupid.

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>>29885088
That fucking picture is nuts.

Imagine harnessing that energy for free and flying a finger to the power company.

>>29885098
>memegun
>memepins

How appropriate.

>>29885074
The $200 is really a minor thing, I would have tons of NFA if it was just that. It's really basically sending a big "hey look at me I have this" note to the government aspect that I don't like.

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>>29885095
how terribly evil

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>>29885115
I hate that I have to wait so fucking long. Like hire some more fucking people and get that shit down to a month. 6+ months is bullshit.

>>29885115
i would pay twice that if it meant getting it right away

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>>29885112
>Meme Gun

NEW GUNS MEAN MEME! NEVER EVOLVE.

>Meme Pins
Actually, they are necessary. Due to the shape of the magwell, normal captive pins wont work. You have to cut and shape them to get them to fit.

tl;dr: I love that mouths get open when they dont know the game.

>>29885134
That would be sweet

>>29885144
>Due to the shape of the magwell, normal captive pins wont work.

So it's so trash normal pins don't even work?
kek, sure is AR killer in here.

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I swear ill be dead before EOTech processes my return

>>29885127
>>29885134
To me the stupid thing about suppressors is that they wear out, and once they wear out if you want to replace them you have to go through the whole rigamaroll again, which is just not right. Even the oil filter can apparently requires you form the filter, not the adapter, so the easily replenished nature of it is rendered functionally pointless.

That's my understanding at least, correct me if I'm wrong.

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>>29885182
should have bought an aimpoint from the get go.

Its also no surprise that its taking so long.

>>29885187
the Econo-Can or w/e its called requires you to register the adapter, not the filter last I checked

>>29885187
All things made by man will wear out.
If you think your going to wear out a can soon. Time to buy another one.

Best be on the safe side and keep three on hand.

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>>29885174
Normal pins work fine.... However putting a drop in trigger group, like in any other AR type rifle needs anti walk pins.

Again, with the talking and the not knowing.

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>>29885187
You are incorrect about the oil filter adapter and a couple other things.

If you register the filter adapter you can use as many filters as you see fit.

Take a look at pic related

#3 is the registered part of my suppressor. Which means i can replace the rest of it once its worn out. Problem is, the motherfucker shakes apart and is shit quality. A good suppressor will last longer then most people will ever shoot.

>>29885207
I'm just saying, you'll get many more years of use out of an SBR'd lower than you will a can, all things being equal, but will pay the same money for either.

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ok AR fags I need better groups with my ar 1:8 twist using heavy ammo (75g hornady is what I'm using now).
pic related is 50 yards using CFE223 powder (near minimum load, max loads group about 4" radius). I've worked my way down from 27 all the way to 21 grains by 0.3 grains and this is the best I can do.
any advice on what to do next? different bullets? different powder? better barrel?

>>29885205
yeah, but you have to send it back to the mfg to change the filter

the ATF made sure to ruin that fun

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>>29885231
#2 is the registered part, not #3. I'm a fuck

>>29885216
hmm.. i know that picture..

Hi from waguns!

>>29884941
one day you might not be poor either
>>29884946
thats disappoint if I've ever seen it on a dogs face
>>29884971
have you own machine? looks decent?

>>29885231
Do companies actually sell suppressor parts? I was unaware that was a thing, I thought you pretty much had to buy a whole suppressor, wait for it to wear out, and then buy another whole suppressor with accompanying bureaucratic paper rape.

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>>29885255
>thats disappoint if I've ever seen it on a dogs face

>>29885231
>If you register the filter adapter you can use as many filters as you see fit.
not anymore

If or when you need to change the filter out, the ATF/NFA rules says it needs to come back to the original manufacture, which Cadiz Gun Works is. The cost is $25.00. The complete Econo-Can Suppressor can be shipped directly to us, for gunsmithing, which would be replacement/rehab/repair of the oil filter, with the serial # remarked, and documented as being replaced/rehabbed/repaired. The completed Econo Can Suppressor can be sent back to you at your address on your NFA Tax Stamp Form. You do not need to go though a dealer for gunsmithing services. The life of the oil filter varies depending on caliber used and bullet type. (ex. AR15=300-500 rds)

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>>29885255
you must be new around here
:DD

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>>29885259
I have to send the whole thing back to get the parts replaced. I can't own extra parts.
My problem being that the company who made my suppressor is total fucking shit.

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>>29885255
I'm Ron Burgundy? Didn't mean the second question mark there


Also went and sold some ammo in houston today, had to stay prepped

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>>29885251
Hola!

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>>29885237
here is at 100yd. im fucking disappointed. 500 rounds of different loads and I still can't get a good group. I can put 10 in a dime at 100yd with a 220 swift.

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Catching up on Vikings

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Family photo
Turning basic bitch middy on bottom into the MK12

>>29885295
What's stopping you from say...taking some tools to the suppressor when you get it back and...shoring up their work?

>>29885262
>disgust
>>29885270
Hey I'm not new, I've been here all summer

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Any spray paint brand recommendations?
I need the following colors:
-Purple
-Green
-Yellow
-Red

Also, where my stickers at, USPS?

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>>29885311
Give me more give me more give me mooooore.

>>29885266
fucking gay

>>29885302
I tested out some overpriced Hornady 75's a year or so ago and got shit groups just like that. Honestly I think Hornady ammo is really hit or miss, and every gun I've put it through hated the stuff.

On the other hand PPU 75g does just fine. I wish I had a real bench rest though, my groups always seem tarnished by the fact that they are shot at suboptimal stability on the best of days.

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>>29885317
Not a damn thing i hope. I've had to fix their fuck ups so many times I might as well have just made my own.

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>>29885095
>settling for inferior, incorrect, less aesthetic MD
Maybe an A2 is more up your alley. :^

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>>29885331
If I had a heart I could love you, If I had a voice I would sing, After the night when I wake up, I'll see what tomorrow brings.

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>>29885324
You don't need paint, just dismember the teletubbies and stretch their skins across the gun.

>>29885376
Kek, das not nice

>>29885237

Different bullets first.
Different powder next.
That is pretty terrible, my 55gr reloads group consistently like that 23.6 group at 50m, and that's the default load and not matched to my rifle.

>>29885366
>less aesthetic

Nigga you gay.
Now excuse me while I go beg my yuropoor overlords for yet another permit.

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>>29885407
Teletubbies do not deserve our sympathy or our mercy, CObro-senpai.

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>>29885372
When does Floki get to sail to Greenland?

My new build. Not sure what glass to put on it. Its new SN has been set though.

S/N: 04TAXESRTHEFT

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>>29885380
how does that thing not entirely obstruct your sight picture?

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>>29885376
>>29885433
You guys are so mean. Muh cute tubbies ..

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>>29885470
It does on the very lower part of my PRO

I don't even notice it though.

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>>29885430
I'd tell you to do an XM16E1 build, with its proper three-prong, but I bet getting a partial fence lower would be quite the journey. Guess you're just SOL. :^

>>29885475
I live for the day when I encounter Tinky Winky's ugly mug in my crosshairs.

Pink mist...

Hey, this seemed like the right thread to post in, but have you guys had any problems with Independence 5.56 ammo? I recently got a DPMS Oracle and 2 boxes of the stuff and I was only able to fire a single round because the bolt broke the rim of the round. Is this just the ammo, or the rifle?

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>>29885516
for you

>>29885475
kys

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>>29885572
Holy shit that is glorious, truly THE BEST range day.

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>>29885568
sounds like that ammo to me

or you have an out of spec chamber and the casing is getting fire formed and stuck.

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>>29885516
You'll never get close to Tinky Winky.

>>29885572
YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE

>>29885352
guess ill try some other ammo brands. Ive tried 55g hornady bullets too and its a lot worse. now I have about 1000 bullets that suck :<

>>29885593
Just watch me.

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>>29885366
> a1> a2

Actuaklly a2>a1.

because i would be able to zap your faggy ass from distance with mere turn of my elevation drum meanwhile you shooting at me and missing me with kentucky hold and muttering about superior aesthetics and trains

A1 safequeen scum. A2 masterrace!

>>29885591
It's specified to fire 5.56 and .233, So I think it could just be trashy ammo as well.

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>>29885593
glad you like it

>>29885237
Dude.

Who fuck make your barrel?

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>>29885625
If your chamber is undersized the brass will get stuck when you fire form the brass and the extractor will rip the rim off.

>>29885594
...sounds like it's time to do some gucci mag dumps.

For full effect, be sure to throw in some snobby quips denoting the cost of the activity.

"That was 30 rounds."

"It's kind of an expensive hobby."

>>29885503

Yeah, laugh it up, we'll see who has a more accurate A1 "build" by the end of the week. :^)
Really though, I'd snap halfway through the paperwork and shot up a mall. Not that I would even want to, partial fence is pig disgusting.

>>29885634
ar stoner.
here it is:
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/184550/ar-stoner-barrel-ar-15-223-remington-wylde-hbar-contour-1-in-8-twist-20-stainless-steel?cm_mmc=se_service-_-OrderConfirmation-_-OrderConfirmation-_-ProductLink

I regret not just dropping 400 or 500 on a match grade since I probably will eventually anyway.

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>>29885590
The best

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>>29885614
I'll fucking kill you m8.

(What the fuck is that purple shit on my lens?)

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>>29885643
>"That was 30 rounds."
>"It's kind of an expensive hobby."

>>29885674
Pls don't do it.

At least it's not one of the cute 1998 ones. But still...

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>>29885302
>>29885237
It happens, here's some 10-shot groups I shot recently, 50 yards, off a rolled up coat.

>>29885697
Why don't you zero your SPR?

>>29885098

That 1970's lava rock is adorable.

>>29885693
>At least it's not one of the cute 1998 ones.
Target acquired.

I'm glad you mentioned it, not I have something to looks for.

>>29885673
Try smk and gmk then few if norma.

If they group like shit its your or garbage barrel. Send it back for non-lemon.

>>29885710
Redpill me on the UTG Pro stuff.
Is it UTG, but made in the US? How is it?
Still airsoft-tier?

>>29885714
This was just ammo testing. The SPR is zero'd for CBC 77grn OTM. Not sure why the POI shift.

>>29885725
*of

Oh and some amax too

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>>29885729
I really like it. I believe the PRO model is made in Detroit, MI.

I don't feel like its airsoft quality. The mounting screws and barrel nut are semi sub par. But Its a fucking solid rail.

>>29885745
The poi shift happen because barrel flex and twist differently for different load. Hotter and heavier load will make barrel flex and twist more, round lands where muzzle point when the round exit barrel.

Not to mention faster round land higher and higher bc round drop less and land higher.

>>29885772
Is it heavy?
I have limited experience with UTG products, but so far, it's been a mix of decent stuff and crap. (The majority being decent).

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>>29885814
Its actually really light. I bought it at a gun show for $90 a while ago.

I actually recommend it as a starter rail. If I wasn't such a fucking gear queer I would have bought it again for one of my other ar15s. I really enjoy it. It is a bit of a cheese grater though.

>>29885842
Thanks for the info.

>>29885725
>smk
I just ordered some along with some nosler and barnes bullets. I've tried amax 80gr and they are no better than match but 80gr is the max weight for my twist so idk. guess I'll see if it likes the other brands and if not a might return the barrel or just upgrade. hate to go without my rifle for a few weeks though if I do return it :<

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>>29885814
It is hit and miss, but in general their entire lineup is improving little by little. Some of their rails are very good quality for the price.

I'm considering getting pic related, it is made by UTG.

>>29885795
Do you reload CG?

Not often people understand barrel harmonics are a big impact when reloading

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>>29885877
I enjoy my UTG risers and bipods.

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>>29885903
why do you need bipod risers with your bipod has extendable legs?

>>29885926
That's as far as the legs go, and when 3gunning I found that I needed more elevation with my bipod than the stubby little legs allowed.

>tl;dr I bought the wrong size bipod.

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>>29885903
jesus christ that is an abomination

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>>29885947
Why thank you sir

>>29885903
>UTG bipod
Sure, why not.
>bipod risers
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST, WHY?

>>29885456
Not sure, lol, I like Floki

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So I got curious looking at the fit people are throwing over Fireclean. So I decided to mix up some canola oil and some 3-1 oil, and some Hoppes gun oil, and have a vanilla canola oil control. I want to see if long term the gun oil or 3-1 oil will seperate from the canola oil. They appear to have blended well.

We'll see what happens. I want to get some mineral oil type stuff too.

I'm trying to avoid the motor oils for the moment because they are loaded with carcinogens when they vaporize.

I'll keep you updated.

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>>29885972
see >>29885946

>>29885946
Just get a bigger bipod. It's not like UTG bipods are expensive.

>>29886001
There's an inrange TV video on YouTube where they cook with fireclean.

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>>29886001
Clearly you aren't ready to die for your rights if you are worried about maybe getting cancer in 20 years.

I suggest you reevaluate your priorities.

How do i /k/ when i also /dbt/? Im too poor for this suffering! Though i own just 1 bike yet 4 long guns and 2 pistols....maybe im doing this wrong.

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>>29886034
I already have.

>>29886001
What proportions did you use?

>>29886037

I've seen it.

>>29886049

If worst came to worst I would use the motor oil.

But I'm going to try and avoid the cancer in the immediate future as long as I don't need the motor oil to fight a war.

>>29886080

1 part gun oil/3-1 oil to 5 parts canola oil.

Seemed like a good starting place, my suspicion is that Fireclean has a little bit of mineral oil or something mixed in.

>>29885086
That gun wasn't rubbed in the dirt. Just the result of driving around in a really dusty area.

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>>29886092
Honestly I hadn't even considered that factor. I use motor oil in all my guns all the time. Gun oil just seems like snake oil to me. Which reminds me I need to buy some brake cleaner.

>>29885237
I've not had good luck with CFE. My best groups are with either H322 or 8208XBR, and yes you will give up some velocity for that accuracy.

If you like velocity *and* accuracy but don't have to shoot the ballsack off a gnat, Varget. Just be warned it meters like you threw a fistful of wrenches in your powder dropper.

Some people have good luck with AR-Comp as well, and it's one of the highest velocity powders that work well in AR's.

If you're still having grouping issues, play with seating depth. I normally load to max mag length, but one rifle prefers deep seated bullets (regardless of the bullet, that one chamber likes jumps).

Try different bullets. Nosler Custom Comps are cheap and well made, just a little lower BC than everyone else's. Barnes Matchburners are decently well made and have a very high G1 BC. I shoot a lot of them. They're also cheaper than SMK's. If, for trial purposes, you want to absolutely know the bullet isn't the issue buy a box of Scenars. They're expensive and have a horrid BC, but are the single most consistent mass-produced bullet made.
>I use a 67gr low-drag semicustom bullet since they're cheaper than SMK's much less Scenars or Berger VLD's, and still have a respectable BC for their weight
>my absolute best 100m groups are from semicustom 52gr flat-base bullets from Bart's Custom Bullets, and they're pretty damn cheap by match bullet standards

>>29885893
No. But i know as much as match shooter and reloader that reload for years. I used to be match shooter. I used to have shoot off with folks and my dad at range with my bolt gun when i was younger. I have savage model (i think) 110 in .270 win.

I have been reading multiple forum pages on reloads since im kid. I have researched on reloading often for often i almost got in reloading.

I will. I will.

>>29886143
>Canada is burning up
>Yukiho has a burning desire for cock

Seems fitting

>>29886152
thanks for the information. your the second person that has told me CFE ain't great. I think I'll try one of the two you recommended with the rest of my hornady bullets to see if that works better. maybe the other brands of bullets I got will work better with the 3lbs of CFE powder I have left.

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>tfw finals tomorrow and I should be studying right now but my hands are shitposting on their own

>>29886182
Very cool. I grew up hunting and shooting with my father who has shot silhouette competition for a very long time.

I plan on trying my hand in some cowboy silhouette soon

>>29886257
Why not just buy some different powder, and use the CFE for plinking loads?

>>29886152
CFE is nice if you don;t feel like scrubbing copper.
I like the 8208XBr mostly for the temp satbility. That and the fact that I seem to be the only guy buying it at my LGS. He has it for $30 a jug, good $5-10 cheaper than any other populr bench powder.
For most loading I stick to RL15. For some reason it's beenmore available locally than varget. Might try the 17 since I've found a reliable source.

>>29886274
Nice my father's into precision and longer distance before i was born and still to this day he care about nothing but that.

Myself i found myself to get more enjoyment from shooting more and hitting my "target" than giving gnat a shave and shoot less.

>>29886281
yeah I probably will

>>29886314
I'm going to start molly coating my bullets so I don't think I'll need the copper fouling eraser any more. temp stability would be nice as I live in north dakota and shoot in the winter too. I've heard bad things about CFE and temp stability.
I'd have tried varget powder already but its always sold out here.

>>29886257
eeeh, I think I may have been a bit vague with that.
>I've not had good luck with CFE
Behind a 69gr SMK it's still a 0.800-0.900" 10-shot load through my barrels, which are nothing special (DPMS CMV unlined and a Shilen stainless, both 1:8). Just not the sub-half-MOA that my H322 load can do with the same bullet.

Out of curiosity, do you have a magnified optic on your rifle, and if so what is it? All of my load testing is done with a Nikon Monarch 3-12x in a QD mount to minimize aiming error, and all shots are fired from bipod+rear bunny-ear bag off a good bench.

>>29886314
8208 also has a copper eliminator in it. I honestly think it works better than CFE at getting rid of copper.

RL17 is gonna be too slow for even the heaviest mag-length .223/5.56, and marginal for single-loading 80gr VLD's. RL15 is pretty good with longer barrels but I have 18" and under, not willing to put up with unburnt powder all over high-end optics.
>$30/jug
Dats expeensive yo. I'm paying $179+7.5% tax per 8lb keg locally. Which is the same price I pay for Varget or H322 and less than I can get RL15 (per lb anyway since it only comes in 1lb or 5lb cans).

I will say that 8208 is definitely less temp sensitive than H322. H322 isn't particularly great on temperature, it was one of the first "not sensitive" powders (and a hell of a step up from H4895 or H414) but not as good as the RL series or Varget, which aren't as good as 2000MR or 8208XBR.

>>29886375
Moly is a goddamn mess, and if you mix bullets in a barrel (moly and no-moly, even if you scrubbed the shit out of it before the switch) you won't get any benefit from the moly.

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>>29885086
das a nice rail

Why are there no Milsurp ARs? I wanna buy one drenched in Cosmoline.

>>29886435
Cosmoline has to be the single most overrated substance in all of /k/.

>>29886435
because they're all fullauto and the military is pretty happy crushing them instead of selling them

all of the A1 parts kits were exported A1s that are disassembled and reimported

>>29886435
because they are all over seas or in an armory waiting for ww3.

>>29886435
>Why are there no Milsurp ARs?

Because they're still being used, hell the USAF is still using the Colt Model 602.

>>29885380
Is that tan thing a Magpul MBUS gen 1?

>>29886403
ive heard it prevents copper fouling on high velocity loads is that incorrect?

>>29886390
>magnified optic on your rifle, and if so what is it?
4x-12x 50mm AO vortex
I normally shoot from a led sled when testing loads, same sled I can get 1/4 MOA with a 220 swift.

>>29886390
$30 a jug is fucking cheap up here. $50 a jug is more in line with current prices.
I like the RL15, it's decently accurate but i want true fireablls.
My current AR rifle does not justify using good components for accuracy so i'm going for range troll and fireballs. The K31 and Remmy target rifle get good powders and the leftovers feed the AR.

Will a 6.5 grendel bolt break? Are there sturdy ones being produced?

>>29886483
Moly does prevent *some* copper fouling, by way of significantly increasing the lubricity of the bullet. You get better velocities and lower pressures too, enabling you to push loads hotter. But it isn't a "hurr never clean it again" thing either. And you have to maintain the barrel conditioning, *especially* if you're running loads beyond book max. Which means no super-aggressive bore solvents (Sweet's, Butch's) while still maintaining a pretty rigorous cleaning cycle.
>with single loading and a moly-conditioned bore, my Rem model 7 in .223rem commercial with a 22" barrel breaks 2900fps with 75gr Amax's with only mild primer flattening
Because I can run them *significantly* hotter than I can in an AR they actually drift and drop less than 77gr TMK's despite a significantly worse BC. I can't get 2700fps in my 18" AR with the TMK's even with 2000MR or Varget.

>>29886487
>$30 is fucking cheap up here
I'm so, so sorry anon.

>>29886569
As an aside, I really want to get a 26" polygonally rifled barrel from BHW for my Model 7.
>long-for-caliber barrel increases velocity somewhat
>polygonal rifling allows a slower twist while maintaining good stabilization and increases velocity marginally
>slower twist increases velocity marginally
>moly bullets and conditioned bore can increase velocity ~2% with standard book loads, and up to ~12% if you know how to read pressure signs and have a good, tight chamber and proper minimal (0.002") headspacing
I am relatively certain I could get a moly-coated 77gr TMK to over 3000fps from it.

>>29884971
Long time no see, Omni. Why'd you stop coming to TS?

>>29886639

Want to hear about my canola oil science experiment, Nick?

>>29886680
...fireclean?

>>29886711

See

>>29886001

I'll throw my notes for today on Pastebin for you to look at if curious.

http://pastebin.com/DeRUPnct

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>>29886738
For science!

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>>29886770

From angle grinder dipshit to science man of autism.

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OC incoming. Reminds of a jungle from Jurassic park.
>>29886639
do people still go to the team speak anymore?
>>29886738
I will be monitoring this

>>29886738
yeah leave it alone about a month and it will turn sticky
i tried mixing legit firclean and canola oil with oils including diesel, but they end up the same way
a stick syrupy mess

>>29886795

Really? We'll see.

Canola oil seems to be okay in storage for long periods of time. And just because it may feel sticky to the touch does not mean it will not provide lubrication for the sliding metal.

>>29886794

I go to the TS a few times a week. I haven't lately because I have been busy, but I plan on going there more.

>>29886811
oh no
if you spread it thin and it will degrade

it stops the gun from functioning
and it's not easy to get off either

>>29886850

Not easy to get off? I have not met any substance yet that will stand up to denatured alcohol.

I'm determined to figure out what the game here is. They said canola oil is the same as Fireclean, and I want to figure out why.

>>29886868
canola/vegtable oil works just the same as fireclean up until it degrades
fireclean degrades slower but it still turns to syrup
every gun i put it on, without fail

an even brake cleaner has a hard time getting it off
i had it on a model 11 shotgun, that was not fun to detail strip

So, does anyone here use Froglube?

What are your favorite solvents, lubricants, grease for use on your weapons? I use trusty Hoppe's #9 and some cheap shit I find at The Mart-of-Walls.

>>29886897

Interesting. Thanks for the info.

I'm going to put everything I find into notes though. Review it at the end and see what everything looks like.

The difference between dicking around and science is writing it down.

>>29886906

Typically I use CLP or Hoppes Gun oil as an all purpose solution. I have some Hoppes #9 solvent, but I typically won't use a solvent unless I need it.

>>29886906
all that biodegrade able environmentally friendly non toxic shit can go to hell

i use hoppes oil and slip2000

>>29886918
I have never tried CLP in all my years. I had an aerosol can of Rem Oil way back that I swear was magic. I used that shit on everything, guns, doors, fishing reels, you name it, and on my knives everyday for years. It was magic, might still be around here somewhere but I can't locate it. I think it's time here was done, it served me well, and may have jumped to another dimension, another time, to seek out a new master. Like a fairly odd parent.

I'll never forget you, based Rem-Oil.

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>>29886936
Hoppe's is effective, it's been around forever because it's cheap and just works.

>Smells good too, intoxicating, the perfume of a goddess

>>29887033
you realize i said oil, and not #9?

>>29887044
Yeah, true, I use hoppe oil too.

Do you use any #9? Never heard of slip2000

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>>29886680
Go for it.

>>29886794
I haven't been there in a week or two because I just haven't found time to. Any free time I have has been dedicated to catching up on anime or trying to fix my sleep schedule. I fucking hate 2nd shift.

>>29887071
yes, for barrel cleaning
not anything other than that

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>>29886906
Never had anything that CLP won't clean or lube
>>29887074
konosuba was a solid 8/10 if you haven't started it yet. s2 already confirmed

>>29887137
Fucking great show. Megumin best girl and I can't wait for S2. I've finished everything from last season, just catching up on this season.

So far I've watched: Bakuon!!, Netoge, Shounen Maid, Haifuri, Kiznaiver, Asterisk, and Mayoiga.

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I just keep several small droppers of this in all my gun bags. Has yet to fail me, I'm waiting for some convincing reason to use anything more expensive.

Is 223 wylde the best of the 223 and 556 worlds or a shitty meme chambering

>>29887172
>I'm waiting for some convincing reason to use anything more expensive.
Dunno about more expensive, but this is a good read.

http://www.grantcunningham.com/2006/05/lubrication-101/

Now I'm thinking about what Queerbait said. I'm going shooting on Wednesday. After that I'm going to strip the shit off and back up and test the lube on some other metals that I can leave out, just to see what will happen. I saw a video of what happens to the canola oil when it oxidizes and it does not look pretty.

Perhaps I jumped the gun applying it to my rifles. So I'm going to see what can be done.

>>29885262
> <5mW
>laughing anime girls.tif

>>29887225

So I pussied out and stripped it all now.

I'm going to do some other testing before I put this stuff in my rifles.

>>29887190
I find it very accurate.

>>29886906
Hoppes/CLP for cleaning
Lucas Gun oil for oiling things
Either Lucas Extreme gun grease OR Mobil Synthetic Grease for grease

>>29884941
I can feel the love, it's so fucking
cute to see you fags fighting. Can we have a /k wedding now?

>>29885127
That looks a little clunky bro.

>>29887074
I am in love with this setup.

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Are the Brownells 20rd mags worth a shit?

>>29885106
Imagine if we had solar roadway panels and turned millions of square miles of roads and parking lots into energy producing solar panels

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>>29887752

>Imagine if we had pic related.

What a higher quality world we'd live.

So I stripped and cleaned my AR for the first time.

Is it possible to have the extractor/bolt rotated the wrong way when popping in the cam pin? Seemed like it could go in 180 since the cam pin hole goes all the way through.

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>>29887469
As you should be. It's changed though because I've got a new muzzle device and the barrel is slightly shorter. I'm also thinking about getting NODs would mean an ATIPAL or DBAL would be thrown on, as well.

>>29885456
I wanna build something similar to that but with open sights
What type of optic do you like anon how about a low power 3-9/12

Hey guys I'm torn between going full tacticool or picking up a "purist" A2-style like a Colt HBAR.

>>29887785
To bad the powers that be decided to be fucks

>>29888052
They will always be scum fucks.

>>29887936
Tacticool 14.5 or 16 inch carbine/rifle
and an a1 it aint me 20 inch rifle
BOTH

So it appears someone called 20 minutes before me and snatched the single remaining free A1 in the entire country.
After I spent half of the night tracking down a sling, bayonet, mags and pouches.
I'm fucking speechless.

>>29887829
Yes you can do that, make sure ur bolt is in the correct position

Why is everyone here a tripfag ?

>>29888577
Because it's fun anon that some of us can talk without having to ask "hurr durr, which anon are you ?"

>>29888236
I'm so sorry for your loss bro. I think there are some A1s in Germany and France. Can't get them ?

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>page 5

Bump

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>>29888236
A1 is serious business man, I refuse to eat a steak without it

I feel bad for you

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Just received this

>>29889032
>killflash

My man

>>29889031
>putting sauce in a steak
lrn2cook

>>29889054
Had this on the m4s, came with the M4. Honestly, I like it.

>>29889063
I have put sauce on a steak before, but never IN a steak...you may be on to something here...

>>29889116
kek it's to early m80

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>>29889125
I've been up for 4 hours already cramming for finals. Swig a Monster and get on my level bro.

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>>29889032
>killflash
nice.

>>29889144
>monster

Not using magic gas station energy pills and prescription pills

>>29889116
In the past 3 days I've had:
-16oz NY Strip
-18oz Bone in Ribeye
-12oz NY Strip

and today I'm cooking a 24oz Porterhouse. God I love being me.

>>29889154
Real mesurement units pls

>>29889162
We both know that is impossible because the weights were taken before cooking.

If you want it in metric, fuck off.

Here is its mass in SAE.

NY Strip 1: .031 slug
Ribeye: .035 slug
NY Strip 2: .023 slug
Porterhouse: .047 slug

>>29889180

>eating slug steaks

Gross, dude

>>29889144
>monster
No thanks, I'll get cancer some other way

>>29889144
lol.

Take 30mg of Vyvanse and snort a line of caffeine. Then at +30 minutes take another 30mg of Vyvanse.

Seriously, do you even college?

It appears that monday morning /arg/ has mutated into delicious food general.

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>>29889201
I've literally never heard of that drug in my life. Even if I knew what it was, I wouldn't be able to get any in time.
>snorting anything
RIP sinuses

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>>29889204
So it would seem.

Here was my meal from last Wednesday.

-Lobster tail
-Crab cake
-Breaded Shrimp
-Filet mignon

>>29889213
Its a form of dextroamphetemine (one of the salts in adderall) but it needs to be metabolized so it kicks in slowly and isn't nearly as jarring as addy.

>>29889224
I see. What is it prescribed for? Same stuff as adderall? I haven't even seen a doctor in years.

>>29889229
Yeah. It doesnt compare to desoxyn but it works fine if its all you can get on campus.

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>>29889217
That looks sublime you glorious bastard

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Anyways, anyone here have an Aimpoint or EOtech and use a magnifier behind it?

>>29889258
No, and I never will. Fuck magnifiers.

>>29889277
...can you explain? I'm trying to decide if I want to but I have never seen one in person to judge.

>>29889280
There is no reason to get a magnifier when quality variables exist

>>29889292
Sure there is, a variable is not comparable to a true 1x red dot.

>>29889280
One of my old roommates had an AR set up with a magnifier. The rig in total was heavy as hell. It was a 16" carbine that weighed as much as my 18" SBR that I deliberately made as heavy as I could.

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>>29889204
Someone say delicious?

>>29889328
>english muffins
delicious
>HK
less delicious
>inforce
disgusting

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>>29889334
y-you too

>>29889350
>Doritos within 3 meters of a keyboard
>eewwwww

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>>29889296
It can do pretty well.

>>29889350
>he doesn't even drink 0-calorie Monster
laughingsluts.jpg

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>tempted to go here because the garlic parm wings look good
>no personal protection because LGS won't restock up on CZs

>>29889372
go ahead and take a picture from 5 degrees off axis and compare with a real red dot.

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>>29889372
The Strike Eagle really struck out with that reticle. Absolutely mortifying.

>>29884941
sup southpaw

>>29889380
I have an astigmatism so any prism scope is automatically better than any red dot for me.

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>>29889380
True.

>>29889386
I wasn't a huge fan at first but it's really grown on me.

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>>29889364
I don't know what ur talking about

>>29889374
Calories are for fat ppl

>>29889399
oh.

>iso layout
its garbage you can destroy it.

>>29889399
This guy wins the Authentic Basement Dweller Ribbon (w/ 2 cheese stars) and the Distinguished Neckbeard Cross.

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>>29889406
i got nutn to say. i just wanted to reply with pic related

>>29889423
its safe down here

>>29889438
Make...

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>>29889445
America...

Wise /arg/ trips.. Do you guys think it's worth it to sbr 5.56 ar15 to 11.5 inches for suppressed use or should I just get a 14.5 and weld a suppressor flash hider? What would you do?

>>29889478
If suppressed SBR go .300 BLK
If >=14.5" 5.56
>>29889465
Not with keymod we won't

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>>29889506
I have a high quality quadrail AND 2 keymod rails; and I've found the keymod is more pleasant in every single way.

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>>29889506
...great again.

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>>29889522
quad rails are not what one compares keymod to...

>>29889545
America won't be great again until you are free to slap real stocks on those pistols without paperwork or fear of incrimination...

...and m-lok becomes the standard...

Can I shoot 55 grain ammo with a 1:7 barrel? Is 1:7 the best twist rate and does it perform well with all different bullet weights?

>>29889548
Maybe so, but comparing mlok to keymod is just silly. That's like comparing someone who has down syndrome to someone that is gifted; sure, they both have special education requirements but they aren't the same.

Mlok is retardation, and keymod is a 159 IQ score.

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>>29889555
>trips of truth
TOT
O
T

>>29889578
>Mlok is retardation
well then fuck your shit guy I'm voting for Hillary.

>if M-lok can't win then nobody can!

>>29885358
>>29885317
>>29885295
>>29885259
>>29885231
>>29885187
>>29885127
Fucking build your own, for fucks stake.

A hobby mill and lathe from Harbor freight will cost you a grand total of a cool 1.2k without coupons and what not.

Buy a cool kid's adapter, there's parts out there with the proper threading and pitch.

Go online, buy the tubing and metal blank, steel or titanium since both can be had for less than 50 dollars.

Machine the hole out of your metal blank for the caliber of your toy you want to screw it on, machine out the baffling, if you're using good metal and used lube. you don't need to worry about heat treating it, machine the end cap, threat everything,fucking assemble it and ceracoat the outside.

Of course, you'll have to machine the fucking serial on the outside tubing or whatever, for when you send in your form into the ATF, but then?

You have the tools necessary to machine everything from handguards, to suppressors, to 80% lowers to fucking making your own lowers if you go and buy a CNC kit and learn how to not destroy your mill.

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>>29889614
Your gona need a lot more then that, your also probably gona spend 3000+ (Not including measurement tools) For a backyard machinist set up to make anything like a 80 lower or a suppressor

>>29889660
lol bud, I use a full size metal lathe at school. You can easily make a suppressor on a basic lathe.

>>29889667
So your gona machine titanium on a harbor freight single serving lathe?

I'm wanting to get a custom barrel. Debating on chrome lining or no chrome lining. How much does chrome lining really effect shot accuracy

>>29889677
Why do you need to turn Ti for a suppressor? Use 6061 Al.

>>29889577
Yes it is and yes it does.

work is gey

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Every day, I have to wake up and remember standard capacity mags are banned.

Life is suffering.

>>29889258
Yes I have used them and they are the Absolute fucking worst. I had one with the eotech 557 which was the first one to use the BDC dots inside the eotech reticule. It was fucking useless. Because once you had the magnifier up it turned into a mess of dots.

The had another one another one behind an Eotech XPS 3-2. The Eotech by itself wasn't bad, but as soon as you flip the magnifier up it turns into a nasty mess of shit.

My last chance was with an a comp m4 which wasn't as bad, but still wasn't that good.

There is nothing that a Eotech/ RDS and Magnifeir combo can do better than high quality variable optic. Unless you count being heavier and having a messy reticule a positive.

>>29889926
But officer, these are 10 round Beowulf mags

>>29889955
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/1957189868/alexander-arms-magazine-ar-15-50-beowulf-aluminum-matte

Just make sure you own a .50 beowulf upper...

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>>29889955
Local stores dont give a fuck, but try telling that to any online retailer.

I just want slavshit mags and a few more Lancers goddamnit.

>>29889258
Yes, had a EXPS 3-2 with a G33, it was clunky to use and weighs a shitload. Also don't forget "they break when you give them to muhreens" memes. Literally just go buy an ACOG and learn how to use the illuminated reticle as a red dot. You'll thank me later.

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>Make raifu great again

God I missed my heavy as fuck comp M4. The field of view is so much better that the micro.

>>29884925
Ammo question for all of you guys:

Wolf Gold or PMC Bronze?

Can get 1000 rnds of Wolf for 299 or 1000 rnds of PMC for 309.

>>29890060
pmc you can reload

>>29889688
>6061

Not 7075

>>29890103
And if I dont care about reloading?

>>29890177
Buy PMC so I can have your brass

>>29890177
pmc is better brass. Do you want to save $10?

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So what's ya'lls take on defensive ammo for the AR? Just get 55gr FMJ and say fuck it?

>>29890168
lol I know all you morons on here think 7075 is required for everything, but 6061 is more than enough for a suppressor. How many material science classes have you had, because I'm up taking my fourth in fall.

>>29890256
Barnes TSX for defense

>>29890256

pretty much, works fine as HD ammo, even at close range.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hJZdtPcVdE

>>29890256
One that hits muh target

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>>29890259

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>>29890292
>and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands
erry time

I'm looking to build an AR, and want a kit something like this, where all I would need is a stripped lower:

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/ati-ar-15-rifle-parts-kit-quad-rail-556x45mm-nato-30-round-pmag?a=1723337

I don't know much about these but this doesn't seem like a terribly good deal, but I can't find the same thing anywhere. Thoughts?

Alright fags I'm trying to do a 90's era Delta kind of M727 deal. The only other AR I have is an old Colt SP-1 I got from my father after his passing, so I have no experience into more modern stuff. Point is, what mounts would you guys recommend for mounting an optic on a carry handle?

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Who [gotshitdone] this weekend? Bad part though is I didn't get time to shoot.