Ak ammo issues

Show us the gun, and the markings on the side, and show us the ammo.

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>It stuck out about 6mm or so.
>difference between 5.45 and 5.56 case length is 6mm
if this thread goes the way I think it will I will be upset

>>29802154
I bought 5.45 shells. If they were marked wrong I don't know.

>>29802154
I hope it does, cause then it's an easy fix. OP's probably a retard and is trying to find his thread though. So I guess we'll wait.

>>29802287
Post the box, a cartridge, and the gun's markings. Otherwise we can only speculate.

>>29802357
Okay now the gun and the magazines you used. I think I know what's up though.

>>29802357
what exact model of 74 do you have?
when loading, do you push the charging handle forward or release it at the back, letting the recoil spring put it into battery?

that Hornady stuff is good to my gun

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>>29802357
>>29802403
samefagging because I just looked closer at the pic
what the fuck

>>29802446
His gun did that, it's not feeding correctly. Mag issue if I had to guess. WHICH IS WHY THE SLOWPOKE NEEDS TO FUCKING POST EM DAMMIT

>>29802468
well yeah but that is quite a setback
was he mortaring it closed?

>>29802479
The return spring has enough oomph to do it itself, I've seen a friend's hk-33 do the same.

>>29802318
http://www.fleetfarm.com/detail/saiga-izhmash-5-45x39-semi-auto-rifle/0000000095588

Don't have pic atm

>>29802403
Link is posted, that exact product.

>>29802479
I was pushing it with as much force as I saw the spring put on it.

>>29802623
Saigas need to be converted to work with normal 74 mags- who converted that one? Post a pic of the chamber area and magwell

>>29802666
I'm driving home at the moment, will in about 20 min.

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>>29802666
RWC group LLC
Tullytown PA, US

>>29802904
take one more of the chamber from the top, all field stripped

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Feeds perfectly when empty. Catches 6mm from close with those rounds.
Have not tried the other kind Because I do not have a range.

Talked to the store manager and gun experts where I bought the bullets and gun, both were completely stumped

>>29802941
with it stripped does a round fit properly into the chamber?...

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Mags

>>29802979
CALLED IT

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Mags top. The metal things in the drum are normal and don't cause issues.

>>29802977
The bullets I tried have been returned/RMAed so I don't know.

They took the gun and bullets into the warehouse and did some things or whatnot, not sure what. Just confirmed that it was weird.

>>29802979
Well that explains a lot.

>>29803021
.... so you already gave the gun back and ammo but here we are having a thread to try and diagnose your issue?

>>29803010
Be more specific or shut up. What did you call? The brown one came with the gun. Both fed but the slide caught.

>>29802357
>that bullet seating
holy fuck

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Different bullet in as far as it will go

>>29802941
your bolt head might be in the wrong position

check if there's anything in the barrel

>>29803087
quick question OP, is the barrel obstructed? IE when you look down the pew pew hole do you not see any light.

>>29803048
No, the gun is still mine. All sales final.

>>29803045
Pls explain.

>>29803087
was this bought used?
look to see if there's a broken shell in the chamber

>>29803113
Nevermind, I misread the problem and just assumed you were having problems feeding because of the drum mag.

>>29803087
visually inspect the chamber, either a broken shell or a lemon rifle. You should go back to the store you got it from and demand a replacement or free smithing to spec. If not, just have them ream it for you.

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>>29802004
top kek at that image

>>29803107
also you could have the broken off neck of a 5.45 casing stuck in the front of the chamber from bubbas conversion job, but the bullet setback makes me think you just have a squib/bubba used the wrong ammo succesfully.

you bought this used or new OP?

if it isn't clear something is in the chamber/barrel, then have a gunsmith do a chamber cast. or just get your money back>>29803113 if they sell you a damaged product either they or the factory have to take it back; the gun shop would be the intermediary to ship back the old one and transfer a new one to you after BubbaCo reserializes one for you

>>29803132
Brand new. :(

>>29803139
Happens. Don't worry

>>29803107
I did... I don't see light. I see some orange plastic shit stuck in the barrel where the round should feed into upon second glance...

>>29803218
>orange plastic shit stuck in the chamber
gee i wonder if that could be stopping the fucking round from seating properly.
Jesus man clean it out.

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I found it

Ran my cleaning rod through and got stuck. Gave a push and this came out. Broken end was about a bullet's depth into the gun.

>>29803218
>remove that shit
>magically gun works

so you're telling me that two gun range employees "inspected" your rifle and didn't fucking notice a barrel obstruction?

>>29803249
how the fuck didn't you or two other people notice that. How the fuck didn't you notice that.

>>29803249
please be bait

>>29803061
This. What the fuck, I thought Hornady was supposed to be high quality.

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>>29803244
Yeah sorry there buddy I didn't expect this (orange plastic) to be in the fucking barrel blocking it

>>29803281
>>29803274
please be calm, don't scare this guy away from firearms, he says hes new.

atleast he hasn't shot someone yet

>>29803286
It's a fucking good thing you didn't manage to chamber and fire.

>>29803286
>HAVE BARREL OBSTRUCTION
>DONT CHECK THE BARREL
>TRY TO CHAMBER 6 FUCKING ROUNDS
are you kidding me anon who sold you a gun you're going to hurt yourself.

>>29803300
This

OP once you learn more about firearms you will look back on this incident with horror

>>29803300
Well to be fair, would you run your cleaning rod through a brand new gun? What about if you were new?

Also, what sandnigger packed that? For what purpose? What the serious fuck?

What would happen if I had chambered and fired?

>>29803332
>What would happen if I had chambered and fired?
your rifle go boom boom in bad way

>>29803286
Holy fuck dude..

>>29803332
yes, to clean the packing grease out. At least a few dry patches

>>29803332
I would inspect the barrel in the fucking store in the first place.
Also how the fuck was your first idea NOT checking the chamber and barrel when your rounds werent feeding. It's not fuckin' rocket surgery jesus christ...

>>29803300
I doubt it in of itself would have done much, but if it didn't explode out the front harmlessly it'd make the bullet fired a squib. then you have yourself a problem.

>>29803332
>Well to be fair, would you run your cleaning rod through a brand new gun?
and field strip it, remove the shipping grease that IS NOT lube, lube that bitch, then reassemble and finger fuck it for a good while and point it at imaginary chinese paratroopers with the finger off the trigger until I autistically chamber check the gun several times and test the trigger break. Welcome to /k/

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>>29803368
how the fuck did he not inspect the chamber and barrel at any point what the fuck anon

>He bought a new rifle and didn't inspect it at the store
>He didn't check the bore of his rifle first thing in the shop
>He didn't strip the gun and check the bore when he was having problems feeding and getting major bullet setback
>HE PROCEEDED TO TRY TO CHAMBER AND FIRE AGAIN AND AGAIN SIX FUCKING TIMES WITH A FUCKING BARREL OBSTRUCTION

>>29803327
This, holy shit fampai

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>>29803286
lol...
>god damnit.

>>29803332
That was a chamber flag, it probably snapped off at the gun shop, not in transit

Well thank you all, most were extremely angry and condescending towards me, and eventually it became correct because a broken clock is right occasionally.

I read ALL instructions and materials that came with it. ZERO mention of plastic shit clogging everything.

This is my first gun ever purchased. I would ASSUME that anything that could make my gun go 'boom in a bad way' would be either, A: Declared on instructions with gun, B: informed to me at gun store, or C: Visible/obvious in some way. Education: if you have no experience and are not told, how the fuck are you supposed to know??

>>29803649
we are mean because we love you anon.

>>29803649
Would you buy a car without looking under the hood? Would you buy a house without actually going inside and looking around? Of course not. It's no different.

>Education: if you have no experience and are not told, how the fuck are you supposed to know??
Why on earth would you go to the store and spend hundreds of dollars on something you know absolutely nothing about? Did it ever occur to you to do some research about what you're buying before hand, or how to properly inspect a firearm instead of just waking up one morning and deciding "HMM I WUNNA BUY A GUN" and moseying in down to the store to buy something you know nothing about?

>>29803649
I hope you learned a valuable lesson here today.

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>>29803649
what part of 4chan didn't you understand?

a broken chamber flag isn't "supposed" to be jammed down barrel m8 but why the fuck would you not check for a barrel obstruction when you noticed that you were literally breaking rounds trying to jam it closed?

Oh and also:
The gun EXPERTS who looked it over didn't find/see it. And you all mock me?
K k /k/, thanks for the peace of mind that my gun is fine.

>>29803799
protip: don't go back to that range

A. the people who work there are obviously retarded
B. they are massive kikes
B.1. they cheaped out on their backstop and are afraid bimetal mild steel cored ammo will punch through it eventually and hit whatever is behind their range
B.2. they don't clean their range often enough or at all, fearing steel skipping on concrete and lighting powder residue, old targets, dust, etc. on fire. This also means that they have a shit filtration system and you're unnecessarily exposing yourself to particulate lead dust.
B.3. they are too lazy to sort out steel cases from the brass bucket as they lehappymerchant resell/scrap the rangebrass. same for when they replace the backstop and have several thousand dollarydoos of copper and lead.

>>29803762
>a broken chamber flag isn't "supposed" to be jammed down barrel m8 but why the fuck would you not check for a barrel obstruction when you noticed that you were literally breaking rounds trying to jam it closed?
Q F T F A M A L A M

>>29803799
Just because someone works at a gun store doesn't make them an expert. It's no different than a retail job. Does working in the electronics department at Walmart make you an electronical engineer?

I've met countless gun store employees who didn't know shit about guns and only worked there because it was a job.

>>29803799
I'm not any of those guys but checking the chamber and barrel should be done before you ever accept a firearm from a transfer or buy it from a gun store. You'll only need to buy one shit gun before you realize how important research and proper inspection are. I wouldn't go back to those guys if they missed something so obvious.

>>29803670
This

Last reply, now abandoning thread- thanks for the help

>>29803736
Because I asked the clerk about these things, but he was probably autistic and extremely extremely quiet and wasn't speaking at all.

>>29803747
I did.

>>29803762
Because it did not occur to me that the barrel would be clogged invisibly.

>>29803670
I love you all too

>>29803896
Don't take it personally, give the rifle a second chance and enjoy it because Saigas are great and 5.45 is my favorite caliber

>>29803896
so you thought the barrel would be clogged... visibly?

what do you think looking down the barrel, with your eyes, does?

>>29803896
>Because I asked the clerk about these things
see >>29803863

find a different range.

someone fucking screen cap this and repost it in the humor threads for the next year please.