Handgun Q&A Thread

>>29796365
Would spiral shaped bullets be any better than plain bullets?

>>29796517
Spiral bullets? As in bullets with rifling on them?

>>29796532
I think that's what he means.

>>29796538
If that is the case, then no, it wouldn't be any better.

>>29796546
they are more accurate tho

>>29796643
Where are the proofs?

>>29796517
I would imagine that the engineers at the various bullet companies have run tests on every conceivable bullet shape imaginable. Which leaves us currently using the best of the bunch. Until technology changes, that is.

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does anyone have any experience with one of these. its down to a cougar or a regular 92fs Inox and I don't hear much about the cougar so Im cautious

What's the general consensus on the Browning Hi-Power? I'm considering a surplus one for a first handgun.

>>29796790
The Cougars are cool, with their rotating barrel and whatnot, but the 92s is a better gun in pretty much every respect.

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>>29796365
Got an even bigger ass handgun, albeit an uglier one!

>>29796824
Good gun to start on. Mags aren't the cheapest, but it's a good solid gun to learn fundamentals on.

>>29796790
These guns are being slept on. They're excellent firearms for an excellent price.

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>>29796824
They're good m8

>>29796853
poster is wise.... cougar is a great pick... i have one... nice pistol

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>>29796365
>>29796365
You >>29796517
you talking about these weird ass things ?


They work ok

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>>29796365
Have gats. will shitpost.

>>29796851
Gib plox

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>>29796851
You wanna play? Let's play.

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>>29797003

That gun and the 4" Model 66 are the most beautiful revolvers ever. I have a Colt Trooper Mk. III 6" but god damn do I want an older s&w ;_;

Are you the dude with the shitload of 3rd gen S&W Semi-autos? I picked up a near-mint 4566TSW for cheap a couple months ago and I'm finally going to shoot it today. It is so nice. Finish is beautiful, fit is very precise, trigger is awesome (except the weird trigger play clip thing) and it's very well-balanced.

Do you know a lot about the TSW models? I like the looks a lot of the TSW models but can't really find any online for a decent price.

other than that one chink pistol in canada. why is there no modern double stack 762 tok pistol?

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>>29797138

and without Hogue grip

>>29797138
>Are you the dude with the shitload of 3rd gen S&W Semi-autos?

I used to be, I sold/traded most of them. Traded up, infact.

All I have left now is a 4006, a 5903TSW, and a 3913.

> I picked up a near-mint 4566TSW for cheap a couple months ago and I'm finally going to shoot it today. It is so nice. Finish is beautiful, fit is very precise, trigger is awesome (except the weird trigger play clip thing) and it's very well-balanced.

Never sell that gun. Ever.

>Do you know a lot about the TSW models? I like the looks a lot of the TSW models but can't really find any online for a decent price.

Yes, and you won't. The TSW series were produced less than the bog standard 59xx series. They're also married to the slide and frame, each gun's slide only works on it's frame. They're EXCELLENT guns.

>I have a Colt Trooper Mk. III 6" but god damn do I want an older s&w ;_;

They're not that rare, actually, just pricey.

>>29797144
Because 7.62 tok sucks. It's long, which will make any doublestack gun wide and long as fuck. It has no modern loadings, no hollow points, and there's no american history for it.

And to top it off, it doesn't do anything that other calibers already do.

>>29797146
I'll buy it from you. $400 + Shipping + my FFL fees

>>29796365
>tfw just shot my first ever gun today
>it was a glock

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>>29797003

Do I win?

>>29797190
Yes.

>>29797190
Post timestamp pls.

Those guns are like .50 GI, I sear to god noone actually owns and actively shoots that monstrosity.

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>>29797184

Lol, no thanks man, probably never selling my 4566TSW. I deleted the decocker/safety with the plug from a DAO model thinking it would make gripping the slide less awkward, but it just doesn't look right now.

It's such a nice .45. Traded a $350 1911 for it. Really excited to shoot it today. I bought the Curved factory grips instead of the Flat backstrap Grips though. I don't know if I like the feel of the Curved grips. Do the flat grips feel a lot more like a 1911?

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>>29797190
you need to go small to go big. nice gun tho, kinda jelly

>>29797199

Just for you. Gimme a minute.

>>29797207
>It's such a nice .45. Traded a $350 1911 for it.

You got the better deal. That gun's worth $600 easy.

>Really excited to shoot it today. I bought the Curved factory grips instead of the Flat backstrap Grips though. I don't know if I like the feel of the Curved grips. Do the flat grips feel a lot more like a 1911?

I prefer the flat to the curved. Also it depends on the 1911. My Sig Tacops and my Para Elite Commander have flat backstraps and I love it, but I just got that springfield GI today(Got a hankering for a stainless, so I got a stainless), and I shot it, and it feels pretty good in my hand too, since it's modeled after the A1 style.

So it depends on what kind of 1911 you're going after.

>>29797223
Awesome. I await on baited breath.

>>29797223
Can you do 410 outta that thing?

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Anyone have xp with the sigma?

I want a cheap full size 9mm but have no info on the sigma. youtube or google arent helping

>>29797184
Tok shoots flat, there are hollow points made by wolf, bulgarian surplus is steel core and laughs at IIIa armor.

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>tfw no S&W K-frame

Seriously considering trading my Colt Trooper for a nice 66, or 19 + cash. The problem with my Colt is that I don't want to actually fire it because it's so clean.

Then again, if I got a near-perfect condition S&W Revolver I wouldn't want to fire it much either. Anyone know where to get a decent price on a 19, 66, or 29/629 with some wear on it? Used S&W prices are pretty rough, but I guess they're worth it.

Also just got the old Taurus 44 the other day. At least it LOOKS like a Smith and has the nicest Stainless finish I've ever seen. Not quite as tight as a Smith but I'm really impressed with it. 3" Revolvers are just sweet looking but such a waste for Magnums.

>>29797246

SD9VE are good guns for the money but Sigmas are pretty shit. You can do much better for $3-400.

>>29797246
>I want a cheap full size 9mm but have no info on the sigma. youtube or google arent helping

Sigma sucks. Buy an SD9.

>Experience.

It's one of those "It's a handgun" tier handguns. Other handguns of this kind include the Ruger E9, those CZ999 Zastavas, the hungarian Hi powers, Star model XX handguns, and those Turkish CZ clones. These handguns are handguns that do what a handgun should do: Shoot bullets. That's it. Nothing else fancy, no excellent triggers, no cheap and plentiful aftermarket. But they function.

>>29797261
>Tok shoots flat,

9 shoots flat too. And it's cheaper.

>there are hollow points made by wolf,

Which suck.

>bulgarian surplus is steel core

Which makes it a poor pistol for indoor range use due to shit like that being banned at most indoor ranges.

>and laughs at IIIa armor.

Which most non-military people don't care about.

Cops don't care about it, Civis don't care about it. and the military, being the military, can issue PDWs which have a longer range, less recoil, and a better supply, than 7.62 Tok.

>>29797274
are sigmas not the same as sd9ve??

>>29797266
Goddamn that Taurus looks nice.

ANd it's not a waste. You do get some more power, but it's not as much as a 6 inch.

>>29797291
Nope. Not at all.

>>29797286
tok drops 4 inches less than 9mm at 100 meters.

I care because I want a tok pistol to shoot my bulgy surplus out of, because criminals, terrorists, and police entering my home with out properly identifying themselves, could be wearing soft armor.

I have a CZ52 and really should pick up a tokarev. Though I still would rather have a modern production double stack pistol that has a proper safety and won't blow up on me.

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>>29797199

Pick one:
A. Pistol with rail.
B. Pistol without rail.

I'm looking for my first pistol, some stipulations:
>antique or military would be cool
>mainly a range toy/clutch home defense
>price ceiling: $1000
>no boring black polymer guns pls

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>>29797299

Thanks dude, this finish on this Taurus is insanely beautiful. It's from 1996. Fit is pretty good and trigger is perfect. I don't mind Taurus Revolvers in the first place but this one was made really well.

>>29797320

Best I could do with my phone on short notice. Gardevoir hasn't made an appearance in a while either.

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>>29797299
>>29797299
When are we going to play some project reality?

Have an authentic nigga blaster
>>29797332
Sphinx SDP
USP
G40 mos with RMR
>>29797327
Tasteful rail

>>29797320
Holy shit.

How much did that gun run you?

>>29797316
>I care because I want a tok pistol to shoot my bulgy surplus out of, because criminals, terrorists, and police entering my home with out properly identifying themselves, could be wearing soft armor.

You should be using a rifle. Or a Rifle caliber pistol. More shots. More control.

>>29797327
Depends on the gun, but except in a very few situations, B.

>>29797332
>I'm looking for my first pistol, some stipulations:
>antique or military would be cool
>mainly a range toy/clutch home defense
>price ceiling: $1000
>no boring black polymer guns pls

I'm going to need more stipulations.

Otherwise, 1911.

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This is a good thread for this I guess. So I have this P227 and shoots way way high. Like I have to aim ~12" low to hit a 12" gong at 7 yards. I know its not me cause this is the only pistol I have to do that with. I've taken it apart and dont really see anything wrong with it. Any thing I should try before getting back to sig?

>>29797349

Sigs suck ass anyway so consider it a blessing in the skies. Sell it and get something else, like a CZ.

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>>29797344
>25 ACP

Pleb tier. .22 LR master race.

>When are we going to play some project reality?

I haven't played that game in YEARS. I mostly stick to insurgency now, when I do play vidya.

>>29797349
Is this in single action, double action, or both?

Also make sure your rifling isn't fucked up. Make sure your crown isn't fucked up.

Is it keyholing as well?

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>>29797346

I got it for $750 brand new. Still haven't shot it yet. Its way smoother than you'd imagine a giant .45-70 revolver to be. Puts my Ruger Vaquero to shame.

My little Seecamp next to it for scale.

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>>29797356

>>29797356
>Sigs suck ass anyway so consider it a blessing in the skies. Sell it and get something else, like a CZ.

1/16th of an inch too much slide. That turns me off of a CZ97, every time.

>>29797338
Well good, keep it and never sell it. Good Taurus revolvers are good when they're good. They're awful when they're bad.

>>29797367
That gun is fucking huge. Also 750 isn't a bad price, don't they normally go for 1200?

>>29797359
>Pleb tier. .22 LR master race.
Not pictured in the photo but the other side has case numbers engraved in it. Mine was used in a murder so you know it works.

>>29797367

Thing must weigh a billion pounds plus I imagine 45-70 uses very slow burning powders? I wonder what kind of velocity they get out of that.

Maybe gives credence to the 'theory' that shorter barrels equal less recoil.

>>29797359
Do they make a DOA p227? Its both, the barrel looks good. the crown looks good. it was factory new out of the box. Like I said, nothing really looks out of place.

>>29797388
*DAO

>>29797388
Send it to SIG.

Make them pay for it.

Also I think they come in DA/SA and SAO.

>>29797380
Damn son. How much did you pay for it?

Also I have a .25 ACP Tanfoglio Titan.

Gun is fine, but man .25 sucks dick.

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>>29797379

The last one I saw new was $1000. I've wanted one for years.

>>29797346
>>I'm looking for my first pistol, some stipulations:
>>antique or military would be cool
>>mainly a range toy/clutch home defense
>>price ceiling: $1000
>>no boring black polymer guns pls
>preferably an automatic
>different/unique actions are appreciated
>readily available caliber
Are those enough?

>>29796365
F U C K OFF YOU ACTUALLY AUTISTIC FAGGOT.

>>29797246
usually reccomend walther ppx for budget full size. Ugly as hell but shoots fine.

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>>29797384

Just over four pounds. As big as it is, it really doesn't feel ridiculous in the hand. My Desert Eagles and Auto Mag feel more unwieldy.

>>29797424
forgot to mention, the ppx trigger is way better than sd9ve

>>29797412
>Damn son. How much did you pay for it?
$65 because im a real OG

>>29797415
Never really was a guy about Big Revolvers. I only got the revolver I posted due to trading a shitty AK 74 for it.

>>29797422
1911.

Sphinx, as someone mentioned

Some kind of SIG

Some kind of CZ

There are a LOT of guns you can pick, for that price range, with those stipulations.

>>29797423
?

>>29797440
Do you live in SC?

>>29797423
Did you miss and hit the wrong board anon?

>>29797448
That's still too much man, especially for a .25 Auto.

But a gun is a gun.

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>>29797450

Alright, how about a left handed mirror image 1911? One of fifty two.

>>29797452

About twenty years ago I did. Been an Alaskan since then.

>>29797460
$65 shipped

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>>29796365
alright /k/, i've decided i'm buying one of pic related. i'm generally not a huge fan of glocks, but i'm willing to give it a shot.
Does anyone have any experience with the g42?
Is the Sig worth $200+ more?

>>29797473
>Is the Sig worth $200+ more?
Not really
>Does anyone have any experience with the g42?
Yeah it works exactly like a glock. Not trying to shitpost, it seriously feels exactly like a glock but a tiny bit thinner. Also just get the G43

>>29797468
Oh. Well that's not too bad then.

>>29797467
You left handed?

>>29797473
Look at the Glock 43 and the 932. both of these guns aren't much bigger, but they have a better cartridge.

The sig is worth 200 more, but only if you want the single action .

if you just want a carry gun, and don't care about the size, get the glock.

>>29797473
Unless youre pocket carrying glock is fine. 238 is pretty much as good as you can get for a pocket gun tho

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>>29797483
>Also just get the G43
i have a shield with an apex, fuck that

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>>29797489

>You left handed?

I am. They couldn't beat it out of me.

>>29797499
>i have a shield with an apex, fuck that
Sell bad gun and buy a good gun?

>>29797510
Left sided 1911 it is, then.

My sig has wear on the top-inside of the rails. How fucked am i?

>>29797467
I dont envy your snow. Is that the same Randall that makes knives? One of those popped up on my local armslist. I have a few of their knives but I dont really see the point in spending 2k on a 1911 that isnt a war colt.

>>29797473

Anything below 10mm is retarded to self defense. Dont waste your time with 380.

>>29797524
Pics, please.

>>29797516
>confirmed for never having touched the trigger of the pistol gods

>>29797545
Apex trigger brings it about up to par with a 3.5lb glock trigger for $150 more

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>>29797535
>>29797535
I've tried getting some good ones, but i'm having a hard time.

Here's a pic I found online, it's not nearly this bad. Its a strip about .75 inch long on the forward rail, and a .25 inch strip on the rear rail.

>>29797587
That's literally nothing.

>>29797527

Nope, different companies. I have a few Randall 1911s. The left handed one was far and away the most expensive. $1410 after auction fees. Still way cheaper than they usually go for if you can even find one for sale.

>>29797589
So it's ok its worn on the tops? I have seen people freaking out about wear on these guns, and I always have run either Tretra or Slip2000 grease on it. Its got about 5k through it currently.

I guess the only part that concerned me was that the wear is obviously through the anodization

>>29797603
Nope. That's nothing.

As long as you don't see cracks, or anything, you're fine.

>>29797611
Ok awesome. I am getting the feeling that a lot of the guys on Sigtalk are retarded and overly concerned about wear. Is that correct?

>>29797621
>Sigtalk

Yep. Guns are machines. They wear with prolonged use. 5k rounds is prolonged use.

>>29797631
I realize this is a retarded question. But how long is the service life of a sig? From this point could I see another 10k realistically as long as I keep it well lubed/maintained?

>>29797593
Ya the one here is a combat selling for 2100. It's been posted for a few months. Sexy gun just not my thing. Do you know why the stopped manufacturing?

>>29797647
Quite a few of them have 40k service life.

Then again, most handguns, not abused and properly maintained, will go 30k easy without any major parts breakage. I know for a fact a glock will do 35k without any major breakage.

Shit, those beat to shit M9s that the military use have 50k, 60k rounds before they replace they frames on them.

>>29797587

Welcome to Alloy frames.

>Sigs

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>>29797367
Damn... that would destroy my wrist.

What do you think of your Vaquero though?

>>29797672
Well that is reassuring to say the least. I have a Glock 19 with about 7k through it, and bought the P229 from my brother. I just found it a bit concerning as my glock has never shown any sort of wear.

>>29797587
I also have some of those wear marks on my 226 with ~600 rounds. I have almost the exact same wear above the "EXETER" in that picture, but the rest of my rails are still fully black. I do notice silver spots on the top edge of the rail around the middle section, so I'm guessing that the wears are common and my gun will look like that in time.

>>29797731
Change your springs out at 25k Rounds, check the frame for cracks, fractures, and "Excessive wear".

But nah, that's an alloy frame. That's what they do.

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>>29796365
my favorite gun in the world, my '84 CZ75 with a single action trigger.
sorry bout the fingerprints.

>>29797739
>my gun will look like that in time.
good for you annon. dont baby that shit

>>29797748
Good, well I won't worry about it then. So does this mean that Bruce Greys write up on sig frames is total bullshit? It seems like it is.

>>29797804
Who?

>>29797218

Is that yours? I've never seen a .45-70 Thunder 5 in person. The couple I've seen were the .410 ones.

>>29797245

Had never even considered it. Fits perfectly.

>>29797822
http://grayguns.com/guide-to-sig-sauer-pistol-inspection/

>>29797708

How is the quality on the Ruger Single Actions? I generally think Ruger makes quality guns look a little bit 'blocky'. I don't know. I want the Blackhawk in .357 with the 9mm Cylinder, though. I'll buy it eventually.

>>29797823
nope. i wish tho, just pulled that off an auction site.

>>29797830

My dad has a blackhawk in .44 mag and it's a solid gun.

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>>29797761

Gun looks fucking badass in the ugly, quirky kind of way. Have you ever held a CZ P-07? It's even better than the 75, the grip, balance and feel of the P-07 is incredible.

Best feeling gun in the world and I've held a LOT trying to find good ones. Plus the weight is so low and your hand is so high on the grip that there's almost no muzzle flip. It is a 10/10 gun.

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>>29797708

I love my little Vaquero. It's in .357 Magnum. Got it on sale brand new for $450. I kind of regretted buying it at first but its grown on me. Mine is blued.

>>29797828
This all seems like good advice.

>>29797854
I'm considering buying one in the future, I just don't prefer polymer frames, I like the weight of the steel frame. I've never held one though, I'll make it a point to do that.

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>>29797830

Really top notch for a mass production gun. Feel is a bit different from most because they use coil springs vs the leaf springs of the traditional single action. Smooth though and they only get better with use.

I'm dead set on getting one of their new .454 Casull single actions.

>>29797862
I've just seen this quoted a lot online when anyone asks about frame wear. I mean I have always kept my gun well greased and I still ended up with dull silver wear spots. I'm getting the vibe its just normal for alloy frames.

>>29797875

I've got a Para-Ordnance P14-45 that I grease the frame rails with Mobil 1 grease. Zero wear through the finish and it racking the slide feels buttery smooth. I don't have 5000 rounds through mine though. Honestly, probably not even a thousand. It still appears as new when cleaned off though.

>>29797875
It is. Don't worry about it.

>>29797866

The only Single Action I've had was a Heritage Rough Rider .22LR which was shockingly solid and well-made but I found loading and ejecting .22LR tedious on a Single Action.

I don't think it'll be as bad on a larger Caliber, especially like a .44 or .45 but that's a drawback for me. But, the Rugers in .44 are cheap, strong as fuck and basically I can't afford a S&W .44.

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>>29797903

A cowboy action shooter trick is to put dry powdered graphite on the cases before you load them. Often helps them just fall out without having to use the ejector rod.

>>29797913

Thanks for the tip but sounds like more of a PITA. lol. I'd be throwing less lead downrange with .44 or .45COLT so it's not like I'd have to load/unload as much.

Just trying to get the tiny .22LR in the chambers was annoying, plus I don't even enjoy shooting .22LR much.

>>29797898
I use mobil 1 on my sig and I still get those wear. I think it depends on the gun.

Since this thread died, I have a question for you guys:

What's the worst gun you've ever bought or the one you couldn't sell fast enough?

For me? Sig SP2022. Hated everything about it ergonomically.

>>29798076
Sedco SP22

It will shoot on it's own, randomly, when I load it.

Paid 60 bucks for it.

I still have it.

>>29798093

Damn, had to google that piece of crap. I hated the SP2022 I bought but the Ruger SR22 was a close second. I liked the looks and the small size but it was TOO small for its purpose and had the worst trigger in history.

Come to think of it, I've hated all of my semi-auto .22LR pistols.

>>29797184
I recently bought a used 5906 w/ adj sights that has some scratches and nicks, any suggestions for how I can get rid of them? Also, I'm having trouble trying to find a site that sells adjustable sights which I'd like to replace, any suggestions for that as well?

>>29798158
Get a ruger.

>>29798172
A refinish.

As for sights, I have no idea.

>>29797190
Revolver made by jews....ewww