Russia to Sweden: Don't fucking dare join NATO

>>29779105
Why do they say Sweden's like cuck porn.

Do you even have black guys?

Sweden isn't already in NATO?

>>29779136

>he doesn't know about all the juicy Sweden memes

>>29779153
I know about the memes. Im Fox Mulder and the truth is out there.

>>29779105
Pack up and join Russia or the US before it's too late.

>>29779150
No. Neither is Finland. Denmark I'm not sure about and would feel ashamed to google since I should know these things

Well you are just asking for trouble I guess you will find it.
GG sweds

>>29779105
should NATO be worried at all?
I mean, russia just said "you're for us or you're against us"
does this mean no russo-us joint army to fuck china and the norks?

>>29779190
Denmark is part of NATO.

>>29779193
Just being near Russia is asking for trouble.

Time to move to the us anon, or at least somewhere that's part of nato

>>29779150
Sweden isnt in NATO. We are part of PFP tho, wich essensially means that Russia sees us as part of NATO but we will never be protected by NATO under art 5.

>>29779190
Denmark is a NATO member but Finland isnt.

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For fuck's sake, Sweden.

Get your shit together.

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>>29779105
Well, that's how you talk to scandishit commies anyway.
>Being old school viking is suffering
All vikings left to Russia, in Sweden only cucks remain.

>>29779206
Only if Trump is elected. If not it will rain empty vodka bottle on you from Russian flybys.

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>>29779105

That pic in OP is actually the finest example of Russia.

That guy looking all grim and bitter is actually just some bitchboy Putin has owned since the Soviet Union. He isnt any more qualified or compotent, just better at staring at things grimly on a cloudy day.

Going "we are scary rossiyv, may be afraid of us" and having it be a farce is their national identity. They are like gypsies except worse; instead of stealing sheep they try to steal countries instead.

Now that we have (litterally, Im not even memeing) reduced our military force to less than 1% of what it was in the late 80s we will be fucked w/o NATO

SwAF dude here btw, feel free to ask anything.

>>29779105
A funny thing about that pic is that all those females have served and the russian dude has not.

>>29779206
If Trump gets elected, that is our only hope for patching ties with Russia. Ever.

Cruz is still in favor of having another cold war, Clinton has already said she wants to sanction Russia, and Uncle Bern Bern won't have anything to do with them because Putin isn't politically correct enough and the Russians don't like gays.

>>29779244
i bet they were all fobbit fucks
>>29779245
yeah, I just really, really wish the US and russia could work together.
the 2 biggest superpowers on the planet that have the power to turn the world into glass should be good friends, no?

>>29779233
Do you still use road bases, or have cutbacks made that impossible?

>>29779254
Same, but it probably won't happen when Hillary gets elected. Probably more like the opposite scenario.

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>>29779265

>>29779288
are we supposed to be surprised?

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>>29779288
I don't think that or her e-mails matter one bit to people. All that matters to them is what's between her legs.

>>29779231
Funny thing is some of those women have actually been in the military.

>>29779254
Well, we need Trump for that to happen. And what sucks is he is being sued now, for some stupid fraud scheme. So everyone will focus on that. Even though Clinton is literally being investigated for treason and not some pissant "fraud" bullshit that won't hold up in court.

Nor will they see that Cruz's fucking wife is part of the Tri-lateral commission.


Or that Commie Sanders was basically a useless person up until he was 40, and he used the frustrations and misfortune of others to get his ONLY real job, ever, as a senator.

I mad. I very mad. We have a chance to be on good terms with Russia, and by association China, And help mediate between the rest of Europe and Russia. But no.

We can't just all stomp Sand People together.

>>29779329
Yeah, makes sense. Scandanavia's issue seems to be fireign policy regarding immigration. Im not one of you but its still pitiful seeing some of the purest white people left on the planet willingly welcoming a 3rd world cultural melting pot. Not trying to be /pol/ but dont whine when theres no purebred fine ass swedish blonde genes floating around 150 years from now.

>>29779105
i dont get this.
you stormfags talk about how foreign people come to your country and steal your shit and rape your women. yet you claim to be viking who did exactly that: go to foreign lands by boat steal and rape.

back to topic
that russian puppet is nothing.

Norway is NATO.

There is enough american military equipment stored in Norway, to equip a Marine infantry brigade and then some.

>>29779410
Muslims are someone who plunder, rape, worship pedophile prophet and impose Sharia law
Vikings were someone who plundered, raped and sailed to America 500 years before the Columbus

>>29779410
If someone's ancestors did something bad a thousand years ago, that doesn't mean that it's okay to do something bad to them.

>>29779459
Well, that and they sort of plundered, raped, killed, people who did it back to them on a fairly regular basis. I.e. Christians.

They were also traders, not just raiders.

>>29779472
Does that means Japan dindu nothing to the gooks/chinks anymore?

You should preach that to worst korea and chinkland then

When trump gets elected your ass is still fucked. Invest in your military instead of being a leech nigger off American glory.

>>29779105
What does malaysia have to do with all this shit?

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>>29779105
What kind of lies does that image spread? THIS is the defense minister of Sweden

>>29779517
Comprehension, nigga.

>>29779315
Even though actually seeing it would give the entire country nightmares.

>>29779505
Well, yes, at some point people need to let that shit go (on both sides).

But that's a bit different than what we're discussing in Sweden. The only time Vikings fought brown people was when Viking mercenaries were defending Constantinople.

All the real vikings left for Normandy.

>>29779362
Except we CANT be on good terms with China, not even by association, until they quit guarding North Korea. Teaming up with Russia might convince them to do so, but if Xi Jinping decided that he'd lose face, then it wouldn't happen.

>>29779517
Malaysia is a country that is likely wouldn't go to war for the next 50 years unless israel suddenly teleports itself to south east asia

>>29779362

EU-guy here. Trump doesn't have a large fanbase around here. It is downright feared that he could be elected president. He produces some of the most awful quotes I ever heared a politician say and the things he plans to do if he gets elected have no basis in any long term strategy, seem to be downright based on populism alone.

>>29779672
I like it how this implies Heimosodat never happened.

>>29779670
Yeah because the media over here only shows the worst things the man says and doesn't even bother showing anything any other canidate says.
It's trying to put the wool over peoples eyes so if we have to go to war with America it'll be easier since we are given a painted picture of the new hitler which is bullshit.

>>29779670
i agree with this
all the people whose chest thumping about Trump making America great again are deluded
i'm not really against him,but if you look at his portfolios and all the company that he bankrupted with his shitty business practice and ethos
i mean i hate Hilary much more,but it's like asking to get mauled in the ass by a triceratops or being awake for your lobotomy

>>29779594
I think that at this point we all agree that China just treats NK like it's retarded cousin. And even they are starting to get fed up with Kim Jung's shit. I think that if it was a choice between Russia and the U.S., or Kim Jung, they'd pick Russia and the U.S., only because Russia was saying "Hey, come on man."

>>29779670
Like what quotes? Everything I've seen him say recently has been pretty straight forward and "good". Especially compared to everyone else he's against. Just because he speaks his mind doesn't make him evil. He isn't a politician, he doesn't have the "etiquette". But I like that, mostly because it forces him to be more honest, since he says what he thinks.

How you find that less threatening than Clinton, who was the biggest liar ever, Cruz who is only 2nd to Hillary in terms of being a lying, cheating, douche, and Sanders who, in my opinion wants to start a race war (not literally, but I think you'll get what I mean), is beyond me.

>>29779659

OP meant that the swedes are so desperate they would do all it takes to secure contract from Malaysia.

There's nothing else to that. Period

Fucking illiterate

>>29779670
>It is downright feared that he could be elected president
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>>29779728
He has also succeeded in business and has displayed a remarkable loyalty to the people who are loyal to him. Everyone who succeeds will have some pretty dramatic failures- it's how they overcome that failure that counts. I think he's done a good job of that.

If nothing else, supporting Trump is a finger in the eye of the shitheads in charge who are totally comfortable with the status quo.

>>29779757
yeah,and Malaysia itself is a relatively peaceful country whose chance of going to war is slim,so i guess that's showing of how bad the situation is

>>29779757
What contract, exactly?

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>>29779105
>Being old school viking is suffering
This is one of the most fedora things I've ever heard.

>>29779779
Gripen, Global eye (installed on Saab 340), MPA based on Saab 340, BvS10 beowulf.

>>29779767
yes,he is a good businessman,and have loyalty towards those who show it,but how does that roughly correspond to his worth in being the President?
and his failures are pretty strewn up,look at the most recent one,Trump Atlantic which his board gave an almost 74% nay on it and he still found a way to pass them
and i think there's better way to shake up the foundation than having him in office

>>29779811
A good businessman knows how to hire good people to do the work. If Trump doesn't know how to pour a foundation, he hires someone who does. Similarly, he didn't know the intricacies of a good immigration policy- so he asked Senator Jeff Sessions to do it for him.

The ability to delegate and "hire" the best people is an important skill in any executive office.

>better way

What way? You go to the election with the candidates you have, not the ones you want to have.

>>29779728
>all the companies he bankrupted

4 out of his 50+?

You do realize that his bankruptcies were also his decision when confronted with choosing between that, or aid from the government OR owing someone favors that were affiliated in political affairs he wasn't really that into.

I also don't see how he has poor business...anything. He's a shitty person who did shitty things but has a lot to show for it. Unlike Hillary, Cruz, or especially Bernie Cuckers.

>>29779767
Which is exactly why I wanted Ben Carson to get the nomination. He has literally all of the good aspects that people like about Trump, with none of the negatives.

Not to mention, can you just IMAGINE the panic that the DNC would have if Carson were nominated? Seriously, a good 80% of their strategy revolves around painting the right as racist, uneducated, ignorant rednecks. Suddenly a well-spoken black neurosurgeon is running on the Republican ticket, and the train that the Democrats have been running nonstop suddenly has nowhere to go. I honestly don't like Trump very much (he's too much of an asshole for me), and I DEFINITELY don't like Hillary, but Christ on a bike I would have voted for Carson in a heartbeat.

And yes, I know he said something stupid about the pyramids one time. He's human, and humans have brain farts. I probably slip up and say something that stupid at least once a week, and that's WITHOUT the mental stress of running a campaign, so I'm not going to hold it against him.

>>29779852
>he's too much of an asshole for me
personally, I think it's good he's an asshole.
it's nice that he has no fucking filter, no doubletalk, none of that shit.
just thoughts to speech.

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>>29779726
It won't matter, you gave up your sovereignty when you let us build up a military presence on your soil. You think we did that as charity? Bitch, we own you.

>>29779811
Yeeeeeah but between him and Hilldog he's our Obi wan the only hope.

>>29779254
>Russia
>Second Biggest superpower
Since when?

>>29779383
>wanting purebreds
Good luck with those extra fingers down the line.....

>>29779852
>too much of an asshole for me

You mean him being honest is too much? Because he says what most people (especially other candidates) think, instead of just smiling and waving, then acting on their thought later behind closed doors.

*cough* Obama/Hillary/Cruz*cough*


I also think it's fucking retarded to not like someone based on their perceived attitude, most of which is clearly an act (especially since you know...he's said it was an act, several times.)

>"He's a big meanie doo doo head"

This is basically the only real reason most people can find to not like him. And I can only help but think, would you rather him be more like Obama and order drone strikes on Doctors Without Borders and be "nice" about it?

Or do like Hillary and smile to the crowd, but lie like a rug?

Or be like Sanders and pander, pander, pander, then tell his largest demographic of supporters that they are basically all a bunch of brats who have had easy lives?

Or be like Cruz who is basically Obama 2.0, and who favors shit like the TPP?

>>29779726

I am not a fan of the other candidates either. I just regard him as the worst of them all.
I totally agree with
>>29779728
in terms of the choices the mericans gonna have.

>>29779741

So did he take back the Mexican Wall thing? because that is just deluded. I'll agree with you that he might be honest, but I question his ability to make Mexico actually pay for the damn wall. So he is either honest, which would make him kinda overconfident/deluded/complete jerkass(if he manages to FORCE another country to pay for HIS wall) or he is a liar.

>>29779767

So what about his loyalty to other countries that have helped America before? Like the Brits in Iraq, hunting chemical weapons no one ever found? Or the Danish, Germans, Norwegians, Turks, French, Lithuanians, Polish in Afghanistan, helping to hunt talibs?

>>29779763

Love you too, brother.

>>29779906
Since Obama pay attention.

>>29779254
>US and Russia could work together
As nice as that sounds and as much as I would dream, it ain't realistically happening buddy. There's just too much shit between our countries for us to simply get along together, we missed a major opportunity to build some bridges during the '90s. As it is the rhetoric and media of both sides has come to the point where I just don't see it happening.
>>29779105
I mean do the Russians have any design on Scandinavia? Considering Sweden's neutrality I don't see how fucking with Sweden would be a good idea.

>>29779936
>what about his loyalty to other countries

"France has no friends, only interests."
- Charles De Gaulle

A nation's leader must be loyal first to his own people, and then he can look to his allies. How could you trust a leader who shits on his/her own people?

>>29779936
>make Mexico actually pay for the damn wall

In addition to other measures, he wants to tax remittances from Mexican immigrants back to their families in Mexico.

>Mexico's central bank reported Mexicans overseas sent nearly $24.8 billion home in 2015, overtaking oil revenues for the first time as a source of foreign income.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/mexico-got-more-money-remittances-oil-revenues-2015-n510346

>>29779936
>The Wall

We're already supposed to have a wall. And him making Mexico pay is actually not that hard. It's dirty, but not hard. It would just mean putting tariffs on all the shit we outsource to Mexico (lots and lots of car companies do, for example.) And buffing our border security i the mean time, instead of it being like it is now. (Obama has a skeleton crew going on on our borders, and pulls BP agents off to work totally non-immigration related things.)

Like, if we had the security we're supposed to have, and we sanctioned Mexico, they'd be willing to pay eventually. And even if they aren't, he favors better border security, period. No other candidate does (well, none did until he talked about it.)

I'm just saying, we CAN force Mexico to do what we want. Is it ethical? No. Is it downright wrong? Yes. But will it lead to the other half of what he's talked about, which is better ways of getting LEGAL immigrants in? Yes.

That is the other thing people ignore, he wants to bring in people, legally. He isn't "ANTI MEXICAN", I think he is against their piss poor government.

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>>29779105
How about posting our actual defence minister mr. russian internet guy.

>>29779105
Sweden is most likely going to join NATO.

>>29779459
oh wow sailing into some direction until you see land again. What an achievement.

>>29779472
wasnt even implying this.

>>29779923
So I'm not allowed to not like someone being an asshole? You're mentioning Hillary Sanders and Cruz, but you'll notice that I never said anything about liking any of them. I said that I would have voted for Carson, because I liked him.

Try harder.

>>29780052
pretty cool guy

>>29780031

Why are these people then not comming to America legally to work?

Who is gonna do the jobs the Mexicans do then? I mean, there is obviously a big market for illegal Mexican employees for American employers.

I don't want to argue the point that illegal immigrants are/are not a problem. I am just trying to inform myself of the situation to make a better judgement.

In terms of walls, in Germany we had bad experiences with those. People will be willing to risk their life to get over your wall, not driven by a will to bring harm to you, but to live better or enable relatives to live better. That is the kind of wall you are going to build.

>>29780114
My point is, that as a politician you have to be an asshole at some point. And most of them are inherently. Carson was all for mandatory vaccinations. Which to me, is a much larger dick move than anything Trump has talked about wanting.

And I also said, a lot of his asshole-ness is an act. I mean, the dude has paid off people's mortgages for helping him fix a flat tire before. He's showed up at his hotels and handed out thousands upon thousands of dollars to them in tips for working hard.

All I'm saying is, you're dislike of him is based on his own skewing of his personality to gain attention, and further media smearing.

>>29780154
americans can work the jobs mexicans are deported out of.
the reason why americans dont work them is because they want say, 5 bucks an hour to refinish your deck, but juan and pablo just want a 6 pack of corona.
if you remove the cheap labor, then manufacturers and the common man are forced to hire americans, and pay more money, but it puts our citizens back in the workforce.

>>>>>/pol/

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>>29779105
I don't mind women being ministers of defense but they should have had military service. How can you be in charge of the military if you've never experienced service first hand.

Also on a less related note, the German one has 7 children. Her vagina must look like curtains.

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>Russia telling Sweden that they will increase military presence on their Nordic border if Sweden joins NATO
>Finland once again being the buffer zone

>>29780154
>Why are these people not coming legally

Our legal immigration system is incredibly convoluted and difficult to get through, so much so that crossing illegally and being deported to try again is easier.

>Who is gonna do the jobs the Mexicans do then? I mean, there is obviously a big market for illegal Mexican employees for American employers.

Well, I'd imagine high school kids and currently jobless people could fill in. It's illegal to hire illegals since they can be paid way less and are never counted in taxes. Part of the reason our taxes are higher is due to a lot of unreported income by illegals, that their employers then get to pocket the difference. (Only paid Pedro $5 an hour, get to keep the extra $2.50.)

>I don't want to argue the point that illegal immigrants are/are not a problem. I am just trying to inform myself of the situation to make a better judgement.

I understand. And I'm telling you. It is actually not even illegals who are the issue themselves. It is people who hire them, because in the end that is what A. gets them hurt and sent to medical facilities, B. robs the government (an din turn, taxpayers) of millions of dollars every year, maybe even billions. and C. it hurts actual, legal immigrants of all nationalities because it floods job markets with people who know no better than to snag every job they can, and work hard no questions asked. This hurts legal immigrants by making it harder for them to get even a minimum wage job, because Pedro works for $2-3 dollars less, and doesn't ask why.


>In terms of walls, in Germany we had bad experiences with those. People will be willing to risk their life to get over your wall, not driven by a will to bring harm to you, but to live better or enable relatives to live better. That is the kind of wall you are going to build.

This brings us back to the fact that we are not trying to keep all Mexicans out, we want to have a better and safer system for making them legal.

>>29780244
I forgot to mention the chicks in the picture haven't had military service and that isn't the minister for Sweden.

>>29780195
faggot, you probably like to being cucked

>>29779219
Finns are in the same shit. Should have joined back in the 90's

>>29780257

Awesome answer, sir!

Seems like the immigration system is part of the problem then.
It is one thing in the line of many issues I have with governments all over the world: No one is optimizing their operating system! No one kicks out old laws or updates them to modern standards. Also, is there a written rule that a certain number of words out of common use have to be used in a bill to get it through?

You probably heard about § 103 StGB, the law that allowed Erdogan to sue that one German comedian hard. They are going to remove it soon-ish, but that is just patchwork. I am also waiting for someone to get the BRILLIANT idea to update the election system. It is more modern than that in America, but it hasn't been kept up to date either.

>>29780353
>Seems like the immigration system is part of the problem then

It is. And sadly, it's so fucked up that we'll need to start almost completely over, which will involve having to get rid of, and keep out as many illegals as we can.

And it isn't even our older laws (well, not all of them.) It's our newer-ish ones that have made it so much worse. California lets Illegals register to vote, and get drivers licenses, for example.

>You probably heard about § 103 StGB, the law that allowed Erdogan to sue that one German comedian hard. They are going to remove it soon-ish, but that is just patchwork. I am also waiting for someone to get the


Actually, no. No I have not.

>>29780383

>Actually, no. No I have not.

It means up to 5 years in jail when you insult the head or leader of government of another state.
Dating back to our time as empire, it was supposed to keep the common populace from insulting the Emperor's relatives on the thrones of the other countries. I don't have to tell you that that law should have died with the Empire, how it survived three changes of the form of government is beyond me.

>>29780352
Finns are in the same shit, yes. We'll more or less have to do whatever Sweden does regarding to NATO membership.

But there's no reason for us to join NATO unless swedes fuck up.

>>29780416
Ahhh, gotcha.

I did know about that, I had a brainfart. Sorry.

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Thank god Austria still has a retired hitman for its minister of defense.

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>>29779105

>Russia
>Collapsing economy
>Outdated technology
>Undertrained conscripts
>Still uses WW2 tactics

Why are ppl afraid of them?

>>29780559
every country that pissed russia off suddenly got some "random" terrorist attack, guess thats why

>>29780559

>Outdated technology

...suuure

>Undertrained conscripts
>Still uses WW2 tactics

...suuuuuuuuuuure

Bait detected.

>>29780531

Great picture!

>>29780451

No problem. The incident was pretty big over here, but I should have considered that it did not garner that much publicity in America.

>>29779852
Carson is literally a high functioning autist

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>>29780469
*had

Now it's a fatty retired cop from the SPÖ.

>minister of defense AND sport
Based Austria

>>29780615
>>Outdated technology
>...suuure
>>Undertrained conscripts
>>Still uses WW2 tactics
>...suuuuuuuuuuure


Please look past the propaganda aimed at the russians, didn't think that anyone outside of russia would be retarded enough to believe in the GREAT RUSSIA MIGHT

>>29779190

Don't be ashamed. Can't learn if you don't look.

>>29779105
Funny how no one in the picture has actually served in the military.

>>29780531
The pollack looks like the bad dude from anastasia

>>29780646

I think the most retarded thing I could do is to underestimate a potential opponent. I don't believe in the GREAT RUSSIAN MIGHT as you call it, but I will not dismiss their military as having

>Outdated technology
>Undertrained conscripts
>Still uses WW2 tactics

Because, judging from the sources I had access to, they are not even remotely as bad as you depict them.

>>29780748
But senpai, you are russias greatest ally, the power top needs to keep the masses scared of the USA to keep the oil profits. Think of North Korea 2.0.

I understand your point, but they realise that war=/=loss of profits for them.

>>29780807

Jup. But as shown in Ukrainia, they are able to seize an opportunity when it presents itself. We are not allowed to get sloppy.

>>29780698
Rasputin?

>>29779153
I used to think the memes were just memes. Then I got drunk and talked politics with a sweedish guy. I actually feel bad for them at this point. They have thrown away their culture for the sake of "diversity".

>>29780469
Worst defense minister ever. The new one is a lot better.

>>29780469
Klug a shit

>>29781497 is absolutely correct
worst defense minister we ever had


>>29780642
>minister of defense AND sport
>based Austria
it's fucking terrible
the defense ministry wants to ban all shooting related sports

how is that based ?

Russia knows it has to go through Finland to get there... right?

>>29780531
Poland: Try me Russia. See what happens.

>>29781835
And that puts us in our usual spot. Neutrality is no longer an option if Sweden decides to join

>>29781906
Russia going to make the mistake of fighting Finland in the winter

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>>29779254
Russia's only friend is russia, don't delude yourself anon.

>>29781754
At least Hofer wants to make the Waffenpass obtainable again, so we can look forward to that.

>>29781992
he doesn't have any say into the matter

so thats moot

>>29782000
Yeah but at least he wants to do something unlike the other candidate.

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>>29779105
>russia
>so weak and poorly trained paper tiger army filled with no morale freshly assfucked grunts every night
>futuristic propaganda project filled with problems and that can't reach the claims made on paper
>so afraid of a cuck nation of sweden they have to threaten them not to join nato
>so afraid of a neighbouring shit tier corrupt country they have to invade it when they think about EU
>can't even win a war straight nextdoor nevertheless halway across the globe
>mfw this confirms my suspicions that russia would get FUCKED the moment it took a wrong step

>>29782030
but he can't do shit in terms of laws

he can either accept or decline to sign laws into service
not change or submit any

>>29779411
I think it's a marine armor division actually.

Read some news about it here in Norway a couple of years ago. Enough tanks and equipment to arm 15 000 marines.

>>29782050
That's true but if Hofer becomes president FPÖ is going to be elected into the government and then we can hope for change.

>>29782083
>FPÖ is going to be elected into the government
that's not how it works

the president can only decide who to appoint to put together a new government
and swear them into office or not

if the FPÖ cant take the 50% hurdle (which no party has for 30 years) then they will have to find a partner party
and if that doesn't pan out they either have to start a minority government or make the president hand over the appointment to another party

>>29781967
Listen to this guy about Russians, they've been professional liars for the last 99 years. Got to have respect for Putin allowing his Russians to come and go from the country as they please though, and I've read he even allows them to own guns for self defense, sure there's more to Russian politics than just Vlad but of course you can't believe anything a Russian tells you and that includes their media. It is clear that you are now free to leave Russia if you don't like it there and that's a serious improvement over when I was a kid.

>>29779224
On USA or on cuck Sweden if anerican gose the Sweden route I'm jumping on the red bear and not looking back

>>29782151
TrumpUSA Russia= the world's last hope

>>29779212
Come west if white man.

>>29780420
Besides getting bitched slapped by Russia which both of your cuck country's need. Maybe the liberals will run to the other shit liberal European country's and the decent ones form your cucktrys will come west.

>>29779329
Wemon in the military they where some kind of paper pusher admin bullshit. Only had the job so they would look good when trying to get political jobs and now they have let there. lands turn in to cucktrys and are now the laughing stock of the world. Soon to be getting surpassed by African nations. They need Russia to destroy them and there toxic leftist ways. Just to teach the rest of the world why that type of self cucking with turn your country to shit.

>>29779233
Come west if white man.

>>29779913
Gud luck with your shitty Muslim cucktry and lack of technological advancements, medicine,law government, scientific discovery, and general dumbing down of the human race but hey you will be able to Chuck Spears and pray to the sun 5 times a day while mockmude and jamal bang ya Sister.

>>29782062
Thinking we won't pull that shit out if your cucktry gose south.

>>29780078
O wow doing a extreme feat of navigation far before any other civilization in the past and then turned in to a first world country. Yup on par with a bunch of goat Fucker who kill them selfs oppress and mutilate wemon and Fuck little kids and still do this while contributing almost Fuck all to the human race. Yup seems equal to me.

>>29779795
Fedora on head Muhammed dixk in your ass seems to be a easy choice for you huh cuckerson

>>29779105
Men för i helvete....

Bitching about how hard your life is, you live in the richest country in the world you fucking faggot.

>>29780627
High functioning autistic for VP

>>29780116
Pretty big cuck you mean

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What are you gonna do, invade me?

>>29780244
Wemon should not be in the military and or ministers of any defence.

>>29779315
this. I can't believe how many people have shrugged off the private server and email as nothing, when anyone else who did the same thing and didn't have her kind of power would've been rotting in a federal prison by now.

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Is Russia the last best hope for the white race?

>>29782851
Russians are niggers with white skin, no

>>29782851
Slavs are white niggers

>>29779521
Pic was made before/during 2014

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karin_Enstr%C3%B6m

>>29779105
>>29779222

You can only blame your fag ancestors OP.

>>29779362
He's been sued for a while. The new thing is criminal fraud. It's an actual felony case.

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>>29782044

>>29783077

>not actually 1080p

>>29782553
Svalbard is too important for the US. You can't let it fall into Russian hands, it's way more important for you than it is for us.

>>29779670
There's a fair share of people that are forced to vote for Trump to avoid Hillary getting into power.

Best thing would be to Trump to withdraw from the race, but he won't, and the stupid part of the population is with him, so the rest will have to paint "I'm with stupid" signs and vote for Trump.

>>29779670
HAHAHAHAH

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>>29779670
EU-guy here, he is absolutetely loved.

You know that there is a study how European hipster capitals feel more connected to each other than to the rest of their homelands.

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>>29779105
being part of NATO just makes you more of a cuck since you'll have less control over your own military.

Only thing this proves is that Russia is afraid of NATO getting more forces, and afraid of any military alliance in general.

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>>29783378

What's their alternative, defend themselves?

Hahahahaha.

Its too late for that, might as well beg the Americans to protect you.

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>>29783429

What the fuck is Sweden going to contribute?

>>29783464
>>29783481
These webms always give me a sensible chuckle

are these typical modern scandacuckins?

>>29780627
Blacks wouldn't have voted for him anyway. He's an uncle Tom. Crabs in a bucket man

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>>29783464
It's sad that the only one that actually acted normal was the diaper head.

>>29783464
>>29783481
>the girls are the most non-flashy and normal
maybe there is SOME hope?

>>29783464
the brown girl's modesty/shyness is pretty cute, especially in contrast with the faggotry that is north european/scandinavian "males"

>>29779711
Stop already. Russia invaded period.
All the little border skirmish crap didnt add up to anything.

Mean while russia was invading every neighbor they thought they could take.

Sorry you slavs can into winter war!

>>29783556
Aside from Finland, yes. All gays SJWs and mudslimes

>>29779231
He's literally just a bureaucrat that has no military service and just looks "cool"

>>29779288
It blows my mind how she lies through her teeth so routinely and people still support her. The fact that she hasn't resigned out of shame just goes to show the extreme lack of respect she has for the American people

>>29782453
Russia can barely bitch slap Georgia, Ukraine, or a bunch of rebs in Syria. You're delusional if you think they can fuck up Finland. ANd don't give me that "that's because russia wasn't really trying all those times" crap. Russia can't into force projection worth shit, and certainly can't sustain an offensive operation against a fully modern military, no matter the size. Truth hurts, vatnik.

>>29779244
That doesn't mean much when you exist to get trained.

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>>29783464
>>29783481

>>29786755
>America can barely bitch slap Afghanistan, Iraq, or a bunch of rebs in Syria. You're delusional if you think they can fuck up Iran. ANd don't give me that "that's because America wasn't really trying all those times" crap. America can't into winning wars worth shit since WWII, and certainly can't sustain an offensive operation against goat fuckers, no matter the size. Truth hurts, Ameriburger.

ftfy

>>29786755
I'm genuinely interested if people on this board consider term 'vatnik' offensive. It's not. If anything, it sounds bizarrely amusing in English.

>>29779105
I'm in love with the Dutch milf minister, would fight Russians for her approval.

>>29779954

france and the bongs used to hate eachother for hundreds of years. they are buddies now and even did (c)anal (tunnel)

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Sup niggas, whose changed the world more than me?

>>29783967
No one denies that they invaded, but the general idea that they just did it for no reason because a Georgian dictator just felt like warmongering a bit is false.

>>29786755
Except wargames proved that Russia would steamroll Scandinavian countries before NATO could respond

>>29779254
Not when the Russians still want to conquer the rest of Eurasia and then maybe bring back communism.

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>>29779672
I just want to be neutral ree. We could have made a fortune by trading with Russia when everyone else in Europe isn't but no. Having a strong military and being completely irrelevant is a good enough deterrent

>>29780154
>Who is gonna do the jobs the Mexicans do then?
8 million unemployed Americans.

>>29788421
The USSR was a vastly different beast than Russia who had logistics issues in both Georgia and Syria.

Russia isn't even a shadow of what the Soviets were.

>>29788543
Actually I fucked up,Russia would steamroll the Baltics.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/12139050/Nato-cannot-stop-Russian-tanks-in-the-Baltics-wargames-predict.html
And you do realize Russia has the biggest training excercises, moving absurd amounts of personell and equipment in them? They can handle logistics

>>29779763
Frankly every single candidate is retarded and I fear any of them of being elected. You goys screwed up good. You know you're fucked when every single candidate is Berlusconi tier..

>>29788543
Which particular logistics issues does Russia have in Syria?

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>>29786755
>Russia can barely bitch slap Georgia
They were about to take their capital when Georgians surrendered, dumbass.

>>29782497
I bet you werent even in any military at all

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At least the Swedish military is still a bastion of conservative and nationalist values.

Yeah, they may have a delegation in the pride parade and a bunch of women and homos in tv-friendly positions but that is literally just to get the government and media off their back.

In reality there is a lot of talk amongst both officers and enlisted on what and how the military will proceed once Swedish society collapses in on itself, which will happen within the next five years, as well as what to do with those who were responsible (ministers, journalists, old communist Stasi/KGB collaborators and traitors who stayed in power). Protip, it ain't gonna be a slap on the wrist.

As law enforcement is losing control of the country, customs are not protecting the borders, radical muslims are pouring into the country and the healthcare system is about to crash completely, Sweden is the only happening that is going to come true.

Race war soon.

>>29788695
>Swedish military is still a bastion of conservative and nationalist values
Wasn't it in Sweden when all male personnel was forced to wear high heels to check their male privilege?

>>29788695

What unit are you with?

>>29779105
Malaysian here .. we're buying Russian FYI

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>>29782044

>>29786961
Afghan and Iraq got BTFO. You're right about Syria, though.

>>29782721
4u

>>29788695
Swedish military officers are planning a coup and you choose to broadcast this to the entire world through the internet?

Alright swebro, I think you've had too much nigger cock. You're delusional.

>>29788760
Has the deal been signed yet?
Do you think it would be wise to tie yourself to the latest bully victim on the world scene just to get a Su-27+++?

>>29788669
still better than just filling paper while being in the military

minister of defense of each country should have done at least 5 years of infantry so they know what being on the field feels like and have less chance of issuing bullshit equipment to soldiers

>>29788463
Treating NATO the same way Finnish politics treat Russian military ambitions would assure true neutrality.
Which is impossible.

>>29779105
The swedish one looks hot.

>>29779212
To spice things up:
1.Finnland and Sweden have an agreement to only join Nato together.
2.From the russian MoD has been leaked,
that Putin would preemptive attack Finnland if it joins Nato.

>>29788720
It was in the US army actualy

>>29780531
The Chinese defense minister looks even worse than the women. Look at those chins, look at those stupid fucking glasses.

>>29779206
>russia just said "you're for us or you're against us"
isn't that pretty much what the US tells everyone? especially US citizens? "you agree with and accept every underhanded dirty corrupt thing we shove down your throats or we will kill you and destroy your country" ?

>>29779105
And what Russia will do if Sweden join NATO? Attack them?

>>29791726
At least he looks like a typical rich, opulent villain instead of being a literal office lady

>>29790893
>Putin would preemptive attack Finnland if it joins Nato.
That to me sounds like a bluff. That would start a very big mess. Putin isn't so crazy.

>>29788628
Because the Eurocrats are so much better, right?

>>29780678
learning is for faggots you eurocuck dirty brown water trash

t. american

lol, what the fuck is russia going to do? jack shit

>>29783568
Democunt policies shit all over niggers and they keep voting them in.

it'd be funny... if democunts didn't win because of them.

/k/ talking /pol/itics is my favorite meme

>>29779105
Why da fuck gives one shit what Russia says?

Fuck that little manlet Putin

>>29783464
Is this what happens when you allow your culture be subverted? Who did this?

>>29788695
Don't excite me laddo

>>29783601
It would mean we'd give Sweden's matriarchy what it wants. Gas all the males and all of the degenerate females.

>>29792499
What the fuck is wrong with your sick head?

You cannot just gas all that important labour, you'd have to enslave them! Even the degenerate females.

>>29780531

>Albania
>female defense minister
>also white

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>>29780559

It's a good try.

>>29794487
>Implying the nu-males and landwhale women are of any use for labor
We're not making the same mistake twice.

>>29788887
Vice this is what winning looks like

>>29795895
Wow, what an unbelievably judgemental bastard you are!

You gotta try. Then, you can take measures to get rid of them based on how badly they're functioning. If they don't, ship them off to north Brazil, utopian Cuba, or someplace like that. Besides, they're impressionable, so if you properly press them, they'll massively improve.

>>29787364
Im russian and its actually quite amusing. We even have a version of it on our russian forums.

>>29787364
I assume is more or less on the level of calling Americans "burgers" or frenchies "frogs". Kinda, maybe a little bit insulting, but mostly just a banteriffic nickname.

>>29782721
How do you mean?

>>29788695
Ffs. What is this cringe shit? How long you been in? 1 week?

Who is your commanding officer, I will call him and have you transferred to T2.

>>29782851
>slavs
>white

>>29788695
>In reality there is a lot of talk amongst both officers and enlisted on what and how the military will proceed once Swedish society collapses in on itself, which will happen within the next five years, as well as what to do with those who were responsible (ministers, journalists, old communist Stasi/KGB collaborators and traitors who stayed in power). Protip, it ain't gonna be a slap on the wrist.
hahahah
hahahaha
hahaha

>>29788695
I'm so stoked for the yuropoor race war so you better make this a reality

Why would you want to be part of NATO? France wasn't part of NATO until a few years ago.

>>29779254
You do realize that the US and Russia becoming butt buddies would be a step towards world peace right?

World peace=multinational government

Peace=no violence

A world without violence=no need for guns(in the eyes of government)

Be careful what you wish for motherfucker. I'll take 3 cold wars and WW3 before I even think that being allies with Russia is remotely a good idea.

>>29798379
World peace is an impossible concept

Reducing hostilities and releasing sanctions on Russia won't necessarily result in peace because it might not be in the interests of other countries like China, which will be seen as waging economic war.

Corporate interests groups and religious extremists will always find ways to instigate conflict for profit or personal gain, and the US going isolationist under Trump won't intervene if they aren't directly opposing the US

>>29779105
And just look at how everyone is bending to the Russian dfemands.

Oh, wait, media and politicians alike are telling the Russians that it's none of their fucking business if we want to join NATO or not.

>Being old school viking is suffering

You're not old school, and you're no Viking. You're a sad little tosser who desperately wishes for the country to live up to your delusional machismo ideals, because god knows you'll never even approach them yourself.

>>29798379
This is some next level delusion, even for burgerclaps

>>29792257
No, we just don't pretend that we have any say in who gets "elected". Those of us opposed to the current state of affairs are just waiting for it to fall apart.

Brexit soon.

>>29779105
norwegian conscript reporting inn. yes your right your army sucks dick, we are half your population and our army is twice as big as yours. not to mention all the bad ass viking culture our army has

>>29788695

All of that wishful thinking.

I'm a swede.

Let them come.

I'll point them in the direction where to shoot.

Glorious Putin has to save Sweden.

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>>29779105
How well does the Swedish Armed Forces hold up against the Russian Armed Forces? I doubt the Swedish military is complete shit. The Swedes have some good equipment.

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>>29798869
>viking culture

>>29779329
Go fuck a pig in the ass you muslim shitskin

>>29800606
Having "some good equipment" doesn't help when your defense readiness is practically zero.

>>29800664
He's not joking, faggot. Search up the Telemark battalion. Norway has some of the best special forces in the world.

>>29800680
Edgy.

>>29798869
Having beards make you unhygienic hipster faggots, not vikings.
You would all get ass raped by VDV

>>29779105
Sweden already has a defense agreement with NATO, they're probably going to join.

>>29782851

Is that a shit stain on his shirt sleeve?

Nigga has more game than me if he can get laid under any circumstance walking around with shit on his clothes.

>>29800606
They don't

>>29779105
Anything that causes Russian asspain is great, so Sweden joining NATO is a fantastic idea.

finn here
while our military is capable, being conscription-based means we'd need at the very least 48 hours to get people mobilizing
if russia does anything it'd be lightning airborne assaults and preplaced special forces crippling the infrastructure. and don't believe the guerrilla war memes.
should have joined NATO in the 1992. I doubt they'd be able to respond very fast even if we were in NATO, but at least we'd save in acquisitions.

>>29802330
They do.

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>>29779105

Get on my level

>>29779767
>good businessman
>worked in business for 30 years and still underperformed the ROI he'd have gotten if he just put his inheritance into index funds

>>29783481
Why someone have to take a photo of himself in a tv program? I think even people that take selfies realize that this is stupid

>>29803788
its a swedish kids/parent show, of course it will be stupid

>>29788753
Probably HV

>>29801025
TMBN aren't special forces though

>>29779315
Teeth and tentacles?

>>29792318
but we can fix everything with guns bro

>>29779105
So swefags... what is your stance on joining NATO? Are you finally going to do it now?

>>29806376
Worth it.

>>29800879
Is the Swedish Armed Forces this ill prepared? There's no way Sweden could be so helpless.You don't have to be a military expert to know that you should always be prepared.

>>29806821
They've had some really embarassing readiness issues in the recent years. Couldn't intercept russian planes violating their airspace.

If they can't even do normal airspace control during peace-time...

>>29806376
The current socialistic and anti NATO government don't want to hold a public vote on the matter because they don't know which side will win.
So I say about 50/50 for and against

>>29797612
>dude what the fuck don't tell everyone you idiot

Shouldn't defense ministers have military experience?

>>29806821
>Is the Swedish Armed Forces this ill prepared?

They have no operational artillery. They can't even successful protect and patrol their own airspace in peacetime.

Their foreign minister publicly states that Sweden has a "feminist foreign policy". Sweden's Defense Minister has never been in the military. It has been estimated that the Russians could take Sweden in less than two weeks with absolutely minimal losses.

>>29779105
Because Swedes and Finns are historically not NATO shills. The smart thing would have been to disband NATO after the Warsaw pact did and put resources into the UN or some other entity. The only thing that NATO currently does is antagonize its previous enemies.

>>29779260
There are road bases, yes, but they arent really in use peacetime.

By the way, Sweden has something like 400 unused airbases.

>>29809594
Silly, NATO still serves its original purpose. Which is to keep the Germans down, Americans in and Russians out.

>>29808518
It's "current year" anon, enforced gender equal cabinets are a must!

>>29808668
>no artillery
And yet Swedish artillery blew up our bat hq at Cold response. Strange.

>>29809702
They have 24 Archers

>>29807049
Oh we do normally intercept russian aircraft all the time. Except on holiday and Sundays, can't afford to pay the pilots and radar operators overtime.

>>29779231
He actually was first and single one minister of emergency situations before. And MES is half-militarized organization that have biggest class of operation units. Sooo he is tough like he is looks like

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>>29779105
Not like joining NATO has any real benefits unless you plan on having the US fight an oil war for you

>>29779362
trump is a moron with no experience in geostrategy.

>>29811295
and Obama had ?
yet you elected the nigger

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Am i the only one who doesnt see Russia as capable enemy/superpower? Seem like has-been saber rattling scrubs to me

>>29779136
>He's never been to /pol/

>>29779231
butthurt Utrashkrainian detected
How does it feel to be subjugated under Russias boot once again as your only hope is to be subjugated by the US instead.

>>29779254
>yeah, I just really, really wish the US and russia could work together.
Yeah, but they won't, and guess who's fault it is

>>29811306
and our country has been a garbage can for 8 years...

up and comer faggots shouldn't be granted the investiture of political office. Least of all niggers or immigrant new money trash.

>>29779105
>tfw the vatnik is putin's lapdog and has no military experience
>tfw the culturally enriched females have military experience and earned their positions
heh

>>29780244
i have saved your picture
those are very nice curtains
i like how they're held

>>29779105
Norfag here we dont really have much of a militairy anyways.

>>29811337
You're full of shit. One of them isn't even the defense minister of her country.

"heh"

>>29811703
I never said that, all i stated was that they served in the military and that was enough to trigger you

Stay upset Borris

>>29780154
>be mehican
>get work visa
>expires in 6 months
>keep working
>stay in murrika
>boss already used e verify when you were legal
>was paying you as a contractor from a checking account anyway
>5 years later immigration white vans you
>walk back over the border
>tell boss you were sick that day
>repeat until you potentially face jail time after being caught 3-5 times
>most never get caught

>>29811717
>I never said that
Except you did

>earned their positions
So how this did woman earn her position as defense minister, which she isn't?

>>29811836
Just because i said they earned their position doesnt mean theyre secretaries of defense, they could be literal secretaries and they still would of been more qualified then Gommisar Shoguyosky

They probably joined politics after military service, and worked their way up the ladder after proving to be atleast somewhat competent, better career path than being a governor in siberia then all of a sudden being proclaimed a general and given faux medals because putin likes that you believe Russia is still a superpower

>>29811891
>They probably joined politics after military service
No, they did not.

Meanwhile, the grumpy vatnik:
>Military service
>Service/branch Military Council of the Civil Defence Troops
>Years of service 1991–present

>Minister of Emergency Situations
>17 April 1991 – 11 May 2012

He might be Putin's puppet, I don't know about that.
But I doubt he originally got the position through Putin. He's been doing that shit ever since Soviet Union collapsed.

>>29779972
Du Gaulle was a madman who's poor decisions caused France no end of foreign policy woes even decades after he left power. As a statesmen no one should seek to emulate him.

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>Be Medieval Historian, Quantum Physicist, and Harvard Professor
>Have possibly the manliest voice in the White House next to Michelle
>People on the internet only care about busted ass Russkies

>>29780559
Wow the kids you forced to be in the military and have zero desire to be there are not well trained compared with their voluntary, professional counterparts, stop the fucking press.

The rest of the shit you said is just wrong, but your absolutely correct that Russian conscripts, much like most conscripts, are hardly trained to an enviable degree.

>>29780559
Theyre turned to beady eyed vatnik super soldiers by being raped senselessly

>>29779315
A snuke in her snizz?

>>29797884
France was a member of NATO from its inception in 1949, and continues to be a member of NATO today. What you are referring to was a France leaving the unified NATO command structure form 1959/1966 (beginning/completion) till 2009. Despite this, France remained a member of NATO, there was an agreement detailing the dovetailing the french military back into the unified command structure should hostilities arise, and France showed NATO solidarity during the Cuban Missile Crisis (1962) and participated in Yugoslavia (1999). This demonstrates that although it was not part of the unified command structure, it was still an active member of NATO willing to fight as a member of the alliance should.

>>29808518
Not realy, they should be capable administrators first and foremost, since that's what the job requires doing.

>>29813134
>those credentials
Seriously though, yale -> oxford -> MIT -> harvard -> secretary of defense

>>29780531
not gonna lie. i'd fuck norway's defence minister.

>>29797884
I'm french and I'm amazed at how many people actualy think this.

Joining again the unified NATO command was a shitty move though.

God, I hope Trump doesn't become president. His foreign policy is completely retarded. If he wins, we might as well serve up east Asia on a platter to China.

>>29788695
See you in 5 years when nothing has changed and you've grown up a bit!

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