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Idiots in private sales

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Well, this article gave me a pretty hearty kek this morning. Anyone else ever dealt with a total retard before/during/after a private sale?

http://americangg.net/idiot-with-an-ak-blames-seller/
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>>29778428
sounds like he browses /k/
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This is why I don't give buyers anything buy a google voice number I can just stop answering.
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>>29778477

this

using your real cell for sales is just asking for trouble
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>>29778428
I really can't tell if the dude who bought the ak is genuinely retarded or an expert troll.
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>>29778428

>dude who wanted to trade me a can cannon upper and some 556 blanks for a LE6920 in like new condition

>guy who was surprised my nagant wasn't in brand new condition

>"will you trade your $1000 rifle for a glock?"

>"$900 is too steep for me, how bout $400?"
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>>29778428
I'm selling a $300 revolver. Nothing special, but some guy offered me a gold spray painted mossberg 500 from 1990.
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>>29778814
>selling gun
>have price listed in title
>have price listed again in message body with FIRM stated
>it's a fair price, cheaper than what they go for used on Gunbroker
>get message after message
>"what's the lowest you'll take?"
>"what's your bottom dollar?"
>"I'll trade you this gun that I'm trying to sell for less than half of what you're asking"

I just don't reply to people who ask that shit. I've met some really cool people from buying and selling on Armslist but gosdamn there are way too many infuriating people out there.
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>selling USPC9 stainless ($950 new, asking $750, probably sell for a little less)
>guy offers his VP9 for trade
>tell him that he was trying to trade a $550 gun for a $950 gun without any sort of compensation
>"Not true! I paid $750 for this gun earlier this year."
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>>29778907

>whats the lowest you'll take

this shit.

I dont see why people cant do the following:

>i see you want $900, could you take $800 if we meet close to you?

you cant just beg for the lowest price, you should negotiate.
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>>29778907
>what's yer bottom line price?
God dammit, I'm not a pawn shop, and even if I were, that's such a shitty way to haggle.
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>I bought this $850 gun
>Put a $150 tapco stock on it
>Sat in a safe all year, never used
>Asking only $1300

Why is it allowed for these people to live?
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>>29778907
Haggling is literal cancer. I can understand seeing the gun in person, noticing damage/imperfections not listed in the ad and asking for a discount, but trying to lowball someone before you've even held the thing in-hand is giga-kike behavior.
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>>29779007
Haggling is fine, normal, expected behavior, just not when the seller stated his price is firm in the ad.
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>>29778907
>whats the lowest you will take?
how do people think this is acceptable?
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>>29779015
It's fine when negotiating sums larger than the average person's yearly salary.

Haggling for the sake of haggling is 3rd-world tier.
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>>29779015
I disagree. You wouldn't go into a grocery store and try to Jew the cashier down on your total. By virtue of having a listed price, haggling is ass behavior, with the exception of when the seller says "OBO", "let's make a deal", or some variation thereof.
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>post gun for sale, reasonable price and possible trades listed
>"what's yer bottom dollar cash TODAY price"
>people wanting to trade boat motors, lawn mowers, and truck parts
>offers of Taurus revolvers and sporterized mosins
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>>29779039
You again, huh. Why don't you do us all a favor and try not to derail the thread this time. We've all heard your bullshit a hundred times when you derailed every other Armslist thread in the history of /k/. Let us have an unshitted up thread for once, OK?
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>>29779056
Just fuck off. No one cares.
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>>29779084
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>>29779056
You realize this is solely a North American thing not to negotiate right.

Literally every place in the world minus a few first world countries with high GDP haggle.

Some cultures actually find it insulting when you don't haggle, Egypt for example.

I personally think everyone should negotiate, within reason. Some of these stories are a little silly though.
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>>29779084
my brother had someone offer him a broken ATV from the 90s that woulda cost more to fix than the gun was even worth, the worst part about all of it was that he was selling a DB .380 with 150 rounds of .380 and 50 hollow points for 300$
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>>29779166
>"m-mudhuts haggle, so why shouldn't I!?"

Because said mudhuts would literally starve without the money they save for haggling, and they NEED the gun to protect themselves from other mudhuts. You're blowing your tax return on a safe queen. Fuck you.
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>>29779166
Stop. Don't engage him. Don't even give him any (You)s.
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This shit is why I don't sell any of my guns or buy privately.
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>>29779166
Oh no, we haggle here. Just don't haggle in many stores(grocery stores, for instance, employees would get fired if they took part in haggling)

But gun stores, pawnshops, private transactions like craigslist and more mom and pop oriented stores is where haggling is.
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>>29778907
this fucking makes me lose it. i only sell guns to friends/family now because of this. but every time i try to sell a project car that i fix up on CL niggers are always asking info thats in the post, offering laughable lowballed prices for whats clearly listed as firm, and generally being skeevy.

i think thats seriously just how most people are. youre just an ad to them, and theyre trying to get something out of you using it. they may not genuinely be bad, theyre just dumb, lazy and have no sense of the manners that go with a transaction

k thx for reading
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Can someone supply me with pictures of their guns to make fake ads to fuck with these guys
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>be 18
>looking for private sale lower for first AR-15 build
>half the listings are FFLs with overstock, won't sell under 21
>good portion of the remaining listings are old farts who won't sell to anyone without a CHL
>spend weeks sifting through listings to see if anybody will sell me a lower
>finally found one, about 30 miles from my house
>give him a call, arrange a meet in front of a pawn shop
>when I get there, end up waiting nearly 2 hours
>the dude is late, finally shows up
>give him the benefit of the doubt, think that he had familial issues or something
>he shows me the lower, I inspect it for any major blemishes
>everything looks good, I get my cash ready and he looks at my ID
>"How old are you again?"
>18, why?
>"I'm not good with numbers, hold on."
>the dude pulls out his phone, starts tapping on it
>looks like he's using a phone calculator to count to 18
>after about 2 minutes he says "Hold on, gotta figure this out."
>another 3 minutes, and he's done, shows me his phone screen
>it has some crazy idiot math
>the number shown is 17
>"Sorry bud, but you need to get out of here. I can't sell this to a minor."
>uwotm8
>tell him I'm 18, I live on my own, pay my own bills
>he doesn't listen, ends up driving off anyways
>end up just buying a stripped rifle and buying the basic cosmetic parts
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>>29779280
>"How old are you again?"
>18, why?
>"I'm not good with numbers, hold on."
wat
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>>29779248

this is why I dont go to meets

>>29779249

ATF pls

>>29779280

parents wouldnt gift you a lower?
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>>29779056
>You wouldn't go into a grocery store and try to Jew the cashier down on your total.

As a former retail worker, this happens fairly often. In a retail setting it's stupid, but when paying a thousand or more it's completely normal to haggle, some people just suck dick at it or have a bad idea of what haggling is supposed to be.
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>>29779280
Jesus Christ. I'm really hoping there aren't people that stupid out there, but I've met too many to know that's not the case.
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>>29779280
lol what the fuck?
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>>29779314
This. As an actual Jew, I honestly feel bad for goyim who pay full price for their flat screen TVs.
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>be me
>list sporterized mauser I got
>meant to buy a period correct claw mount and scope and resell
>too much work
>just list it and get my money back
>figure there's not a huge market for 100 year old bolt action 8mm sporterized guns but list it anyway
>two replies in three days

>would you take an xbox (the first one, not even a 360) and a paintball mask?

>how many magazines are you including with it


>>29778428
How the fuck does someone this dumb even know that 5.56 ak's exist? I would've thought the whole purpose of dumbasses wanting an ak is for 1. muh 7.62 stronk or 2. muh runs forever... AND STILL NOT FUCKING KNOW WHAT X39 IS


>>29779249
>google images
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>selling 3 cheap guns
>Hipoint 9mm carbine, Taurus tcp 380, 870
>Hur dur, gib ya 300 bucks
>which one?
>All 3, but you need to drive here, I'm an hour north of you
>Have a nice day.
>Teller ya wut, I'll make it 400$
> Oh golly Mr! 400? I'm on my way now!
Why is it people low ball with a fraction of market value.
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>>29779056
>>29779185
>>29779166
>>29779039
>>29779056
>>29779007

Why are people on /k/ so stupid?

>buying new goods:
>every individual item is identical
>prices are often set by the manufacturer, and held to, since every individual item is identical
>retailers all have the same item and compete with each other on prices
>haggling is rare or non-existent due to uniformity of the market

>buying used goods:
>every individual item is unique - this USP is from 2001 and is in perfect condition with the box; this USP has some holster wear, a scratch and doesn't include the box, but is from 2015; this other one comes with 3 holsters, 300 rounds of ammo and 6 magazines
>>>>thinking that sellers know exactly what their things are worth in free market conditions
>haggling is common due to heterogeneity of the market
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>>29779432
They still think they live in the 90s, where people can't look up the value of a gun in seconds.
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>>29779310
Parents are vehemently anti-gun

>>29779299
I feel like he did it on purpose.

>>29779331
I didn't believe it until I walked into a few fudd gun shops that treated me similarly.
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this was posted last week
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>>29779434
you're smart we're stupid

blah blah blah
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I've only had two experiences with private sales, both were good

>First my friend wanted to sell his Savage model 70
>Met dude in parking lot, was a no nonsense country dude, looked at the gun and asked some basic questions and then paid my friend.

>Second me and said friend drove to a guys house so I could buy a pre-ban tec-9
>Despite the guy being in his mid-40's, was really energetic and carefree. Made the whole process a lot more fun and easy.

Did I just get lucky or is this normal?
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>>29779434
>>retailers all have the same item and compete with each other on prices
>>haggling is rare or non-existent due to uniformity of the market
In a sense, the retailers are haggling with one another to arrive at their prices. It's just uncommon for customers to have the power to haggle for new goods directly with a retailer.
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>>29779602
It seems like the vast majority of actual sales are normal, but there are some fucky ones that sneak in.
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>>29778814

On the other hand
>sub-2000
>used, first gen
>1 mag
>$700
>FIRM
>also have .22LR, $75/brick
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>>29779629
It just depends on where you live and what kinds of people are active on your local Armslist. Some states are better than others.
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>>29779647
And then there's (always) this asshole...
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>>29779750
>this gun will definitely turn heads at the range

They'll be turning away so they don't have to lay eyes on this monstrosity
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>>29779750
Fucking dummy suppressors
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>>29779101
I don't know who the fuck you're talking about, since that was my first post on /k/ about haggling, ever.

Whoever he is, though (whomever you're posting about) is obviously not as 3rd-world as you are.
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>>29779660

this. where I am I can't use armslist or craigslist because of the amount of inconsiderate fucks that use it.

It's always them never showing up at the specified time, not returning calls/emails, or showing up and claiming they don't have the proper amount or "tire kicking" the item for sale despite having been very thorough in the description to prevent said "tire kicking".

I wish ebay wasn't so rotten either so I could just remove the human element altogether.
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>>29779840
Jesus. Sold my old truck a while ago, and that shit killed me. Talked to the guy, disclosed all known issues (which were few and far between, but I described all of them/sent pics), agreed on a price $700 lower than asking ($3500 -> $2800), and the guy shows up, does a test drive, and then says "all I got is $2400" and gives me a sob story. Thanked him for his time and said I'll wait for a buyer who can meet the $2800. He had the money 2 days later.
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>>29779882

damn that's a huge amount of a discount you gave him. I never go more than 10% off. Hell, assholes are so use to messing with price I just tack on 15% more than I want to get and watch them try and lowball me anyway.

vin checking sites are a godsend too. There was a thread on /o/ that I used a few times when I was buying a car and sure enough most of the vehicles had serious accidents or issues yet the seller was passing off a clean title. it's honestly disgusting to see so many people try to take advantage of others like that.
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>Private Sale

Been trying to trade/sell Picture Related

Below are some of the offers I've gotten for it.

(Note, this gun is worth about 800 EASY)

>Circuit Judge
>Glock 43 + 200 dollars
>Ruger SR 1911
>Franken AR
>Franken AR pistol
>Franken AR again
>mossberg 935
>FN FNP
>Colt Govt. 380 Pocketlite
> " an old but great condition double barrel 10 gauge 3 1/2 inch magnum shotgun" that had no markings, no makers mark, and no papers
>S&W 908(A budget 3913)
>A shot to shit Sig P220 with no decocker, and 130 dollars
>600 cash "Right now" but I have to drive to him
At this point I may as well keep the damn thing.
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>>29779602
Nah I've had mostly the same experience, maybe it's because I live in a southern city full of engineers and mil types that aren't stupid shitbags but I've done a ton of buying and selling using armslist and it's all gone smoothly EXCEPT for one time.

> see ad listed for an Eotech 552 for 250 bucks first come first serve only 2 left

> blurry ass pic and wants a check sent to him and then he will mail it to you (this for some reason didn't set off my bullshit-dar because I'm a greedy Jew)

> email him and tell him I'll give him $270 cash today if I can pick it up in person

> turns out he's more of a greedy Jew and gives me his home address and we set up a time to meet later that day

> pull up to house, knock on door and hear the howls of 3 billion dogs, opens door and he's 600 lbs, he hands me a shitty little white box and shows me the Eotech and it actually looks and feels legit, thought Eotech might have some shitty bulk buy packaging that was different than retail

> give cash, go back to car to inspect further but something feels wrong, get out my phone and type Eotech 552 on YouTube and see a video titled "Eotech 552 knockoff" like 6 videos down, it's the same shitty fucking packaging and everything and they retail for $40 from China

> God fucking damnit

> get out of truck, put on gun in owb holster, knock on door. Really don't want to deal with any further bullshit out of this cunt so I just say I'm having second thoughts and he could hold it for me if I change my mind. I'm guessing he noticed the gun on my hip because he didn't put up much of a fight and gave me my cash back, get back in truck and leave

Honestly Chinese knockoff Eotech wasn't even in my mind until I saw the video, MUCH LESS somebody being stupid enough to try and sell a knockoff Eotech to a stranger who has guns and knows his fucking home address. Still blows my fucking mind to be honest.

Other than that armslist has been peachy.
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>>29778907
>capitalizing firm
Fuck you. Don't you dare yell at me just for looking at your listing, I haven't said anything and you assume I'm an idiot and an asshole already.
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>>29780036
Or what, faggot? You won't buy from me? Bye, then. I'm sure there's a seller who will let you walk all over him out there, but it ain't me.
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>>29780036
>list lightly used shotgun, 200 shells, bore snake and case for $250
>guy emails me twice in a few hours saying he is in town and to call him because he is very interested
>I call, he asks a few questions and I go out to meet him
>Asks what's my bottom dollar
>I say 250
>he says he'd give me $200 cash right now
>he says he is an FFL so he can buy 870s and Mossman 500s for $150, so he is offering $200 because of the ammo
>go home with my gun
Ok asshole, go buy an 870 then.
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>>29780028

chinks knockoff everything. you have to be super aware of shit nowadays if you see it cheap.

>is it stolen?
>scam?
>knockoff?
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>>29780036

in my experience, yes, most buyers ARE idiots and assholes :)
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>>29780155

I laugh when I hear people at flea markets or gun shows claim "well I can get it cheaper online"

then why didn't you buy it there asshole?
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>CHL required
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Exhibit A
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>>29780213
And Exhibit B.

The court rules that you, Mr. Armslist Man, are, in fact, a cunt.


>>29780208
Sympathy varies according to state laws. In NH, you only need to be 18, it takes 14 days, and costs $10 to get. So, I either require that or an FFL transfer. A P&R License isn't perfect, sure, but it's a reasonable check.
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>>29780192
Right? Like it was a $250 shotgun new, so with $80 in ammo and accessories I feel like $250 is a fair price.
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cool
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It's not just private sale that produces idiots, gun shops do it too.

Example: Collector's Guns in Houston, Texas. They have shotguns and rifles worth $250 or less going for $500-$700. I went in there the other day and found a M91/30 in pretty shitty condition for $600.
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>>29780343
"As new"
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>>29778907
>>"what's your bottom dollar?"

I want to reach out and cockslap everyone who asks me this. What the fuck kind of haggling is that? Have these people never done it before? You can't just ask "what's the lowest you'll take" and get a serious answer. I swear to fuck these are the dumbest fucking people on earth and I hope they all pay MSRP for their cars and then die in a fiery wreck.
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>>29780192
>>I laugh when I hear people at flea markets or gun shows claim "well I can get it cheaper online"
>
>then why didn't you buy it there asshole?

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/consideration?s=t
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>>29780365
You mean Collectors Firearms?

I go there occasionally, it's really fun to look at their stuff.

I feel like some of their stuff is fairly priced. but yeah, they've really inflated their mosin prices.

Last time I went there (which was a couple of months ago) their mosins were like 400. A PU was like 500.

They definitely like to haggle though, one guy didn't seem interested in a Mauser and just said "make me an offer" like he wanted it out of his store, and then said he'd give me all the ammo for it he had back home (the rifle was his until a week before, he traded it for an AR, this was right after Sandyhook)
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>>29780365

they operate on the idiot customers and have to make high margins on sales due to low inventory. that kind of business model doesn't last long however. lucky for me I have 2 enormous LGS near me that sell guns for a little more than online. customer service sucks shit though.
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>>29780343
maybe if he was in NYS that wouldn't be that bad of a deal, i'd bet you could talk him down to 450 500, call him out on the "new" bullshit. all matching Chink sks's are harder to come by but it's certainly not a selling point.
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>>29780431

wat?
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>>29779118
>sell shitty gun like a taurus revolver
>400msrp, $350 new, priced by you at $350
>normal buyer: ok this guy must know his shit is worth around 300ish, I'll ask him if he'll take 250-275ish for it
>normal seller: responds with some price between ok (needs da money/long listing) to $275-325
>Y/N/second round of haggling
>autist like you who is afraid of social contact even via email: REEEEEEEEEEEE I KNOW WHAT I'VE GOT HOW DARE YOU OFFER ME LESS MONEY MY SHIT DON'T STINK IT'S TOTES LIKE NEW IN BOX WITHOUT THE BOX WHO CARES I COWBOY'D IT CLOSED EVERY DAY FOR 5 YEARS AND DROPPED IT ON THE CROWN ONCE
>too afraid to email back
>channels autistic rage over unsold gunbroker listings on /k/ your safe space
>get called a fucking idiot
>REEEEEEEE again over your tendy dinner
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>>29780418
I tried to educate a guy who asked it to me one time, but it was no use.

>Him: I don't want to waste your time, so let me just ask, what's yer rock bottom, bargain basement price you'll take for it?
>Me: Well, I'm not running a business. I'm just a guy trying to sell my gun. I don't have a "rock bottom" price. I want to get my list price for it, but so far I haven't gotten any offers for that amount. You're free to make an offer lower than that and I will consider it, though.
The old fart tried to chat my ear off with a million stupid stories and excuses, but he never did even come close to making an offer. Stupid fucker.
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>>29780453
HTTP://WWW.DICTIONARY.COM/BROWSE/CONSIDERATION?S=T
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>>29779299
he couldn't subtract the birth year from the current year due to being some kind of necrotic fudd/chudd hill person hybrid
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>>29780473

I just straight ask people "will you take 'x' for it?"

they give me a yes or no and I'm on my way.
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>live in metro Detroit
>like to try new things so I'm buying/selling/trading often

oh god it hurts

>"yo what's yo bottom dollar?"
>"I'll give you $500 more for no registration or ID check"
>"Will you trade your $600 pistol for $100 cash and $100 in ammo?"
>"You specifically said 'no .40 S&W' in your ad but here's seven different .40 pistols I have that I'm desperate to get rid of please trade me"
>"Straight trade my Ruger SR for your Glock?"
>niggers showing up, talking to me for 10 minutes and looking at the gun then telling me they have less cash than we agreed on
>last week agreed to trade a guy for a like-new Gen 4 G19 with night sights and Vickers extended controls, he shows up with a stock Gen 3 with a Punisher slide cover plate. "Sorry I must've grabbed the wrong one. So you want this one?". Drove another 20 minutes to his house to get the gun I actually agreed on
>guy after guy after guy after guy after guy after guy who agrees on a deal then suddenly disappears the day of the sale, never to be heard from again
>people offering me various snakes and lizards, yard machinery, tools, and broken, rusted motorcycle "fixer uppers" as trades
>this is almost always when I say "no trades"
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>>29780481

that means nothing in regards to the original post. you should 'consider' to neck yourself.
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ITT: anti-social NEETS who don't understand the art of haggling. C'mon guys, it's time to grow up and spread your wings.
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>>29780473
>"I don't want to waste your time"
>proceeds to waste your time
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>>29780510
Are you an ESL?

>Why would two people ever engage in activities designed for the benefit of both parties, rather than just one party?
I answered this question perfectly clearly.
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>>29780511
dubs of truth

Y'all are bitches desu
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>>29780509
Oh yeah, and my favourite

>I can't afford your asking price so will you take 50% less?

No nigger my price isn't relative to what you can afford. That's not how sales work. I set a price, and people who can afford it or somewhere near it contact me.
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I don't think this is a bad deal at all, but

>paratrooper
>good prepper set
>CHL required
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yet another who wants 600 for his sks
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If you're bumping your sales posts more than twice, it's priced too high

Too many of you morons think they can sell at retail price after using it.

Fuck your used gun at store prices, I can go to the store for that
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>>29780509
>showing up, talking to me for 10 minutes and looking at the gun then telling me they have less cash than we agreed on
That shit pisses me off SOOOO bad.
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>>29780510
you are not a smart man, but that could of been inferred by the fact that a major source of your income is selling shit at a flee market.

people are willing to pay slightly higher prices for purchasing something at a brick and mortar store... or in this case regional garbage sale, but not get taken to the fucking cleaners.
>need maguffin
>costs $15 online
>if it was ~20dollarydoos at Kike Co down the road I'd buy it to support muh local businesses/have it in hand 2 days quicker
>price: $35 dollarydoos
>tell counterkike "you know this sells for like $15 on amazon right"
>REEEEEEEE WELL BUY IT THERE THEN
>buy it there
>never shop at Kike Co again
>3 months later kike Co is out of business
>owner doesn't know why
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>>29780561
Not necessarily. Sometimes, it's just priced too high for that particular market. I had an old FN 1910 that I tried to sell locally, but the highest offer I got was $250. When I sold it on Gunbroker later, I got $425.

For common guns, I agree that you're probably going to be right, but if it's something uncommon, or just an uncommon variant of a common firearm that has a slightly higher value, the only way to get the true value is to sell it to a bigger market.
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>buy gun
>put a bunch of overpriced boutique bullshit on it
>try to sell it for exactly what you paid

I priced it out because I was that bored. $1205 exactly before shipping.
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>>29780566
The last guy who did this to me stopped mid conversation and said

>Listen, I'm an honest guy. I don't bullshit people. You seem like a nice guy so I'ma be honest and tell you the truth. I only brought [$50 less than we agreed on]

Oh yeah what an honest fucking guy, wasting a goddamn hour of my time instead of telling me you didn't have the money before we meet
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>>29780561
>Too many of you morons think they can sell at retail price after using it.
>Fuck your used gun at store prices, I can go to the store for that
All of this.

I figure a fair price is about midway between what the gun store would pay you to buy it off you, and what you paid for it new. Or, about the same as it goes for used, depending. Of course, if the used market on them is going gangbusters, fair is fair.

Fuck that "I could sell it for X on gunbroker" logic. No you couldn't, asshole. 18 people have them priced at X, and they all have 0 bids.
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>>29780542
That's a fucking sweet deal, and I always ask for Ccw when selling on armslist because it weeds out niggers and methheads 99.997% of the time.
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>>29780552

he says he can negotiate on price, just offer 400
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>"I've got over $2600 invested into this AR"
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>>29780601
so did you go through with the deal?e
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>Facebook says they're closing gun trade groups
>everyone says "we're going to mewe"
>no idea what that is but sure I'll try it out
>one week later pic related

nope
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>>29778973
>whats the lowest you'll take
Well make me an offer
If they don't reply back, too bad
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>>29780579
>>29780530

niggers please. if the guy didn't want to sell it as cheap as 'online' they have there reasons, not just greed. people should know that small business can't compete and expecting them to throw away any and all profits, even take a loss, to make a sale is retarded.
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>>29780614
>99.997% of the time.
The other .003, it's "I ternd in my apllicasion, but i havnt got it bak yet. Wood yu be ok if I payd yo $100 mor?"

No, Tyrone. No I would not.
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>>29780670
Nobody was asking why the brick and mortar retailer sells something for the price he chooses to. The question in >>29780192 was, why does the customer bother telling the brick and mortar store why he might lose a sale. "Why doesn't he just leave the store and buy the thing online without informing the brick and mortar salesman?"
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>>29780671

asking them to call you also helps immensly.

>phone rings
>tyrone on the other end
>"sorry, I just sold that gun brb taking down listing"

just got to wait till someone rings that isn't a moron.
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>>29780365
>http://americangg.net/idiot-with-an-ak-blames-seller/
What collectors is good for is ordering guns that are out of stock (everywhere, like, say a KSG). They are honest, they don't get the guns in and put them on Gunbroker like a bunch of twats do. They actually go to the person in line.
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>>29780670
That's true to a point, but occasionally you'll encounter brick and mortar stores who are selling a product at so far above market value that it strains credibility. This occurs particularly frequently at gun shows. Anyone with $75 .22 bricks, chinese aftermarket parts, and a whole box of Anderson lowers for $125 each, who launches into a rant about "online vs the little guy," is probably gouging. I see no reason to support an asshole like that
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Have gotten a couple of these before. Just got this one last month.

>Hey john I want that 500 for my buddy. He doesn't get paid until 2 weeks from now but he said he will throw in an extra 25 if you take the ad down because he wants it

Did it a few times when I was younger and an idiot. Guess how many times the guy actually ended up buying it? Absolutely fucking zero.
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>>29780670
>3.
>thoughtful or sympathetic regard or respect; thoughtfulness for others:

a consumer smart enough to know the fair market value of an item yet still is attempting to give your kike ass business knows he'll pay slightly more to A. inspect the item in person and B. get it right away

slightly more
not 50% above MSRP

the buyer when confronted by some kike who does this tells the seller he needs to unfuck himself to ensure the royal you's continued patronization in hopes that you simply don't know that you're a massive kike. Then you dash their faith in humanity against the rocks by responding that you're just there to price gouge the ignorant.
>then you get mad that you never sell anything
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>>29780705
Try speaking in unaccented American colloquialisms, rather than Detroit Hood or 'Murican Redneck. It's amazing what a difference it makes.

Does everyone who sounds like an ignorant asshole have a criminal record? No, but it sure does help weed out those that do!
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>>29780640
>Gluck
>Mexican Military Issue
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>>29780742
Yep. I learned my lesson on this really quick. Only agree to sell someone if they can come through with the money within 24 hours.
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>>29780767

its also about making sure the process goes smoother. I'm not dealing with retards out of choice if I can help it. my blood pressure is already high enough.
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>>29780542
>not asking for a CHL

It's the easiest way to not get raped and or robbed dude.

It's a legitimate requirement by a private seller. Go cry somewhere else.
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>>29780848
It can really reduce the number of offers you get, though.
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>>29780756
>>29780716

whats with these assumptions that the seller was a gouger or had absurd pricing? I'm talking about honest businesses here.
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>>29780584
Well sure, there's an exception to everything
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>>29780848
Not arguing that asking for a CHL isn't a good idea, but

>It's the easiest way to not get raped and or robbed dude.

What's stopping someone from saying "yeah I have a CHL" and then raping you at the meeting anyway? Are you one of the guys who requires a timestamped pic of the buyer holding up is CHL and DL next to his face?
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>>29780848
>I dont have a CHL because I just turned 21
>I buy and sell guns often
boo hoo
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>>29780859
I prefer to keep my ass covered and make sure that the person I'm selling to won't do something retarded with the gun later.

>>29780882
You always carry to the meet, keep the gun you're selling in the car and ask to see the persons CHL first. It's pretty normal around here to not only do that but also to carry a bill of sale for them to fill out as well.

>>29780897
:DDD
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>>29779248
That's not what cum looks like
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>>29780861
>honest business
>flea market
shlomo plz

I see the same thing at gun shows, my friendly local good ole boy club that also sells guns, and any type of "pay to enter" style bazaar (like a gun show, music festival, etc.)
If I've developed a rapport with the people I don't bring up what massive kikes they are, but they usually in confidence bring up how being small fly by night businesses they can't get most things wholesale and mostly rely on drunk people remembering their ATM pin, never expecting me to buy from them. Gun shops though are already a trust style business model, so they don't get the free pass about fucktarded prices.
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>bought an AR upper on gunbroker for asking price
>he offered to throw in some rail covers
>felt like a douchebag because I apologetically emailed a day later and asked for black after I'd initially asked for FDE

At least my autistic social awkwardness is the kind that tends to benefit others
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>>29780848

having a gun is the easiest way not to get raped and robbed. the CHL is just to confirm that the buyer is not a felon to cover your ass.
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For the love of fuck, stop selling off ONLY your front iron sight because you scoped the rifle, and then don't sell it with any glass...

Of course I'm dropping the price by $150 or more. You're selling me a gun I can't use until I put more money into it.

Course I found a deal on glass, so he would have been better off not selling the front sight for a quick fifty bucks
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>>29780542
I... I live near Carrolton. I demand link now.
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>>29780912
exactly my point.
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>>29780859
Sure, but it's worth it.
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>>29780917

I hate it more when the seller goes into detail about all the small changes and additional parts they put into the rifle and then want to charge and absurd amount more because of it. I'd pay more because of the extra parts, sure, but I'm not going to pay more on top of that just because you bought them.
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>>29780861
Well, sure, the honest businesses have every right to be a little sensitive about people demanding Amazon pricing. In general, though, I've seen quite a difference between the premium one must pay to support an honest small business, and the inflated prices some asshole is charging because he thinks idiots will pay it.
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These threads are always full of babies that don't realize materials loose value over time. In private sales of ANYTHING value is decided upon by the seller and the buyer. I know american children are taught to think everyone is special and be non-confrontational but for fucks sake, understand that haggling is not arguing and insulting each other, it's about finding a price that is fair to both people. Don't be offended by someone trading something they value to you for something you value for more than it's worth. You all sound like cry baby liberals.
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>>29780625
animals are so lewd
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>>29780848
see this>>29780875
I don't deal with these faggots because they are "going the extra mile" to further gun control laws. It isn't required everywhere and asking for it is taking gun control into your own hands, fucking liberals.
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>>29781002

I never give those assholes the time of day to start. Their not worth the effort. If I see absurd pricing for generic shit I just 360 moonwalk out the door.
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>>29781027
How is protecting your own ass within the guidelines of the current federal laws of the land furthering gun control?

If there was zero risk of getting caught in a honeypot and zero niggers where I live I wouldn't do it the way I do it now.
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>>29780625
>NOPENOPENOPENOPE
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>>29781027

you do know they are doing it more to cover their own ass than make sure laws are enforced?
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>>29780625
Is that panther sucking on the man's finger as if it were a teat or something?
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>>29781027
Too many fucking methheads around here, and I'm not arming them. Let them break into someone's house, like every other methhead.
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>>29781051
The intent is self preservation in the eyes of the law; the result is people afraid to sell guns on the internet. IE: gun control working for the liberals. Maybe try not being a pussy and comply with the law as much as is required, not extra shit you don't need to do.
>>29781063
The result is stil lthe fucking same.

It's legal in NY for FFLs to transfer stripped ar lowers but most won't "just to be safe." They are just protecting themselves, can't say that's wrong but it lets the gun control assholes win. It stifles the free legal trade/sale of firearms. You people are the fudds that are letting liberals slowly take guns.
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>>29781135
>guns are okay to own as long as you appear to fit my criteria of a suitable gun owner
Whatever you say bernie
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>>29779027

People have a general notion of what haggling is, but aren't willing to put in the effort to do it properly.
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>>29780468
Holy strawman, Batman
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>>29778969
You in WI? Just saw a similar ad for a USPC today...
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>>29781165
>methhead
>responsible gun owner
pick one chucklenuts
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>>29779750

Fake suppressors are the automotive equivalent of spoilers that don't do anything, aren't they.
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>new in box never fired
>very reliable

lol I got one of these for 429
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>>29778428
Most people just don't know how to negotiate or are hoping they get that one sucker/desperate guy.
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>>29781148

mkay you go ahead and sell as many guns to niggers and meth heads as you want. I'm sure that will work out fine for you..
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>>29781237
I'll give you tree fiddy for it
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>>29781236
I think they're closer to fake hood scoops.
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>>29781244

there is no negotiation with lowballers or price gougers. perhaps you've found a way?
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>>29780640
>>29780640
thats obviously a troll from /k/ dumbass
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>gun has 500-2000 rounds through it and costs MSRP
>"Like new!"

>gun has 500-2000 rounds through it and costs more than MSRP
>"I spent my time and money breaking it in for you"
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>>29781296
Go spend 20 minutes on mewe gun groups and then tell me that.
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>>29780742
>>29780742
obviously a message sent by another competing seller selling the same gun at same time
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>>29778428
>Seller: I’m not even wasting my time trying to help anymore. You’re a douche
>Buyer: Your*
>Seller: No. You’re. You’re means you are.
fuckin kek. the caliber mishap was good, but that false pedantic spelling correction was the icing on top
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I sell firearms regularly in private sales (my collection is a revolving door, ive owned roughly 40 but only have 5 in my current collection)

1. Always state every detail, clearly, in the ad. Especially the legal requirements, where im willing to travel, and the financial arrangements
2. Only leave an email, and qualify them when they contact you. I do not respond to anyone trying to lowball me, who seems gangsta, who doesnt seem to know what they're doing, or anyone who even remotely tries to bend the rules of the ad (even just asking to meet 1 town over from what i listed)
3. I confirm ALL details of the ad with the person and if thats all good, i confirm a meeting place (gunstore, always) and give them a number
4. If they flake even once or have any issue and cant do the deal I drop them and move on.

I have sold each gun for like-new prices despite having 4,000-10,000 rounds through each and have sold them all within 48 hours.

I have all of these rules in place because i learned each one of them the hard way. By being selective I make more money more easily. Never have a problem anymore.
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>>29781231
>freedom
>dictatorship
pick one, liberal

>>29781248
I'll try to stick to only property owning white males of voting age lol
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>browsing Oregon section on Armslist
>"Must meet at FFL to complete the transfer, buyer is responsible for BGC and Transfer fee"
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>>29781016
It's a curve. Things initially go down but then go up over time. Unless it's shit like a highpoint
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>>29781467
During the transaction I also thoroughly go over everything I'm selling. I operate and disassemble the firearm, and have them reassemble it in front of me. My goal is always not to get a call back, ever. There are no hidden defects, and i know they're good to go, and it gives them the impression the gun is good to go, that I'm knowledgeable and didnt fuck the gun up.

My sales process is good, I sold a first edition TP9 for the same retail price i purchased it at despite the disconnector triggering after every shot (gun was a straight pull) and it had about 1500 down the tube
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>>29780579
Too bad most of those stores don't go out of business because of cucks unwilling to buy online.
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>>29781115
Yes it was probably bottle fed for a long time
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>>29779359
As a rich person I feel bad for people who have to haggle because they can't afford to buy everything they want at full price. My time isn't that cheap.
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>>29781513
Problem is?
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>>29781555
He's enforcing shit tier gun laws that police won't arrest anyone over.
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>>29781540

I don't buy guns online anymore unless it's hard to get. I've had to refuse too many transfers because of defects. I just pay the extra $50-$100 and be done with it.
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>>29780625
The only part of this that isnt adorable is the fact that that panther could take that hand off at any moment.
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>>29781554

that is retarded. some of the richest people in the world are also the most penny pinching assholes.
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>>29781554
Want to know how I know that you're not actually a "rich person" and are just a trust fund baby?
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>>29781237
In Montana I saw them for about $380
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>>29779750
>Removeable mag works property
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>>29778428
>be me selling glawk 30
>specifically say in dot fuddyphive aye sea pea
>get email asking "is it chambered in .40 and how many clips and what's the lowest I will take"
>listed at $400
>red guard senses are tingling.spidermanjpg
>Google his email
>find Facebook
>redguard suspicion confirmed
>throwing up gang signs and shit
>tell him I already sold it

kek
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I've had pretty good experiences with private sales.

Bought a XDs 3.3 in .45 with 3 magazines 2 were extended with the slip on finger sleeves. As well as the box and other goodies from a guy at a gas station in the morning.

Sold it to another guy a town over and bullshitted with him about how he was wanting a compact .45 and this was perfect and told him why I was selling it to buy another handgun I had been looking for locally to pop up.

3rd experience I met the guy at a home depot to buy his CZ P-01 with 2 14 round magazines with the rubber pinky extensions and one 10 round mag. 2 boxes of Magtec 9mm and even had a set of VZ grips on there for $500. He asked me how old I was and I showed him my ID and made a joke about being a baby face.

All 3 pretty good experiences.
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>>29781237

>tfw I want one
>tfw I work inna fun store and all 3 of our distributors are ALWAYS out of stock
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>>29778477
How do you do this???
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>>29780006
What year is this anon?
I may be interested in this
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>>29780208
I ask for a CPL in all listings. Not as a firm requirement, but a mark that people who specify without asking are more likely to be serious buyers. Try bringing up your situation, they may respect that you're being upfront about it.

Assuming you're 18-20 and not a felon skirting checks.
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>>29780640
Facebook didn't do shit.
The active groups moved to secret groups to keep out white knights.
They only invited people who had actually bought/sold stuff.
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>>29780237
Haha, oh, wait, even cheaper now!
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>couple years ago
>on armslist browsing for milsurp
>see a $700 SVT40
>wew this is too good to be true
>message guy about buying it/or if he still has it
>few days go by
>check back on the listing its marked by spam
>get an email a day later from the seller in the most broken fucking english I've ever seen
>went something like this "MAN WHO SOLD THIS VERY GOD MAN BUT UNFORTUNATE WENT TO ARIZONA TO BUILD MISSION FOR ORPHAN IF YOU SEND MONEY TO ME I MAKE SURE PASTOR GET IT AND WE WILL FOWARD GUN TO YOU"
>send him the money
>never get the SVT
>still mad about it
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>>29782536
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>>29781016

I think you're missing the point. Haggling is perfectly fine in these situations. What's not fine is starting haggling by saying 'What's the absolute lowest you'll go?' or offering an insultingly low amount.
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>>29782536
You're mind numbingly stupid.
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>>29782536
>yfw getting ripped off because you are gullible as shit.
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>>29782649
Or an extension of that, the idea that all prices must be haggled. For some people it's not about getting an objectively fair price, you must talk them down. You could list an untouched, new in box Glock 19 for $300 and you will get offers for $200.
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>>29781769
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Would Buy for $800.00
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>>29780006
Would buy for $800
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>>29780640
>Mexican military issue
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>>29780365
Yeah those guys are assholes, went there a year ago and they tried to sell me a sks that was beat to shit for $900.
Cabelas that just opened up isn't much better IMO.
Anyone in the Houston Texas area know a decent LGS?
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>>29781600
>>29781115
Except that's what makes it more hot
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>>29781934
Set up a gmail
Add gvoice number
Route to your phone
Done
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>>29780145
>>29780155
>>29780172
I'm a nice guy. If you don't want to negotiate that's fine. If you have a fair price we don't need to negotiate anyway. That's why I get pissed off when sellers capitalize words in their ads. You are preemptively treating me like a jerk. If under treat the person who wants to buy your stuff like an ass before you've spoken with him, then you can piss off.
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>>29780552
That is a neutered Yugo, don't touch it.
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The most Nigerian post of the evening. Lifted directly from a Gunsamerica ad, where the same gun is $645.
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>>29780640
>Gluck
>Jimenez
>highest quality Mexican military issue
>also need 50 bucks from you
>2 blank emails
I laughed for a good 5 minutes at this, thank you
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>>29780584
This right here, applies to everything, not just guns. I moved to a smaller city for a killer job and went to sell some stuff... nobody could pay close to what it was worth so it went up on ebay and sold immediately.
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>>29781583
No he is making sure he is not selling to a felon. If you don't like what the buyer wants no one is forcing you to buy from them. You can also argue price because you have to pay for ffl exchange.
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>>29783416
>spending actual cash to kill yourself
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Was able to get a bakelite for 35 and 1k golden tiger for sga prices. Guess ive had good luck.
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>>29783416
>>29783760

i seriously don't get it. I mean, yeah, those guns are american made, so haha he's dumb or whatever..... but what am I missing here? is that not the gun he says it is? is this somehow a scam and I'm just not seeing it?
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>>29783781
Century arms is doodoo.
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>>29783781
It's a scam. He's charging $400 for a gun that should cost at least $600, and he copied both the image and text from an online auction site.
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>>29783781
https://youtu.be/Vs7eK2SmGYM
The ras47, in its current run, is not very well built. Apparently they are blowing up on people
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>>29783243
Gun Emporium up in Conroe is breddy gud, as is Spring Guns and Ammo in Spring. Both have knowledgeable staff. Little pricey for some stuff but usually not too bad, and both places have ranges and will give you a free range pass with a purchase so you can shoot your new acquisition right off the bat.
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>>29781930
keltecs most popular gun but they make so few while i can get one of their pocket pistol everyday of the week.

Seriously why dont they make more.
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>>29780343
nigga I got a Russian SKS all matching with import stamps on every thing for 300 bucks just 2 years ago. All these chink beat to shit SKSs going for 500-800 dollars is autism.
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>>29782163
>Facebook didn't do shit.

Yeah, they did. I was a member of six local groups, all but one was shut down. The only one still active was renamed as an ATV parts trading group and set to secret so normal people don't stumble on it.
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>>29780006
What model is this? I will buy it. Seriously, i would love to have a 44mag s&w
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>>29780006
>600 cash now but you have to drive to him

Definitely someone from /k/ that lives in their mom's basement.

Also, why did you never show up?
I totally would have bought the gun and we could have talked about fun times on /k/ with lemonade and my mom's cookies.
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Sold privately 3 times.
> list mini-14 for 700 and XDM for 500
> 3 days later get offer for 600 for the mini and 450 for the XDM
> meet them both at the same spot within 30 min of each other.
> All went well.

>few months later list ruger MKIII for 250.
> sell it the next day for listed price.

Such is life in alaska.
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>Want KSG
>LGS is fucking overpriced as fuck
>700 dollar shotguns for 850
>Go to Armslist
>Oh neat a dude a seven miles away is willing to part with it for 650
>Only 50 rounds fired is totally fine with me

>Go there
>It's bubba supreme hodunk trailermaster with a crooked smile and my shotgun
>Smell bullshit
>Gun actually is nearly new after inspection
>bubba doesn't quit talking shit about plastic guns but he accepts the cash with a smile
>We talk about how awesome his Mossberg is gonna be after he dresses it up with the money he got from this trade
>Go home and shoot my KSG

It was a good time.
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Here's a Gunbroker one I saw.
>Selling rare gun a grand over what its worth
>Stop messaging me with lower offers than the starting price
>I know what it's worth
>Every time this listing ends without being sold I will raise the price 50$ so you better buy it now

Unfortunately after about 4 months some rich asshole bought it and encouraged this pitiful behavior.
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>>29780803
No even worse he says his POS Jimenez is Mexican military
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>An m14 is 1500 dollars brand new
>an m14 in a polymer stock with an adjustable cheekrest is 4000 dollars.
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>>29778992
They're smart, it's the people who buy it that are stupid
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>>29779248
If your cum looks like condensed milk you should probably see a doctor
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>me and father go to gun show
>he's looking for an ak bayonet
>come up to some guys booth where there are no price tags on guns
>instant red flag but it's just an ak bayonet
>bayonet blade looks like shit but dad just cares about price
>asks price
>oh man that's an original ruskie imma have to ask for 50 bucks
>I'm trying not to laugh, dad asks why price is so high when it's so beat up
>guy says it's "battle tested"
>k
>turn around and walk away
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>>29784703
JAE stocks are pretty expensive m8
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>>29780343
>>29780552

Here's thus far my only armslist tale

>I had only recently become Hasnugget
>love my nugget, also other slavshit that I read up on such as SKS and AK's
>Browsing dat Armslist Minnesota one day to see if anyone in MN is selling a gorgeous '53 Tula SKS
>Some guy nortwest of the Twin Cities wants to sell one for $475
>Ask him if he will take $400 per /k's advice
>He is cool with that, agrees to meet outside some paintball store
>/k/ advises me to get a friend with a CHL to go with
>Friend agrees cuz he wants to go to that very store.
>Arrange the day between work, seller and friend
>We are go for Friday freedoms
>Get email from seller on Wednesday
>He sold it to someone else
>I am fucking heartbroken
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>>29778428
>"WTB: Colt Python. But I ain't getting ripped off! All reasonable offers accepted."

Translation: "Sure, you COOUUUULD sell your Python on Gunbroker for three large, if you were an asshole. But why not sell it to me for a cool six hundo?"

Saw a LOT of that shit during the Great Habbening, mostly people wanting to buy AR-15s but "not wanting to get ripped off."
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>>29779084

My wife had her cousin text me on april fool's day asking if I would take a taurus judge and $300 for my springfield TRP. It was an almost perfect example of what happens on armslist.
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>>29785010
Free market man. Someone probably offered a higher price
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>>29779084
Drum sets.

There is a guy on our local armslist who will offer his drum set for anything and everything from a 2000 dollar Noveske to a 150 dollar hipoint. Nobody has taken him up yet.

Also the guys who want to trade 6 year old emachines for durr hunting raifuls.
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>>29779280
Did Jimmy Witchard pull his calculator off of his neck again?
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>>29779432
Because most people haven't looked at enough guns to know what they are worth.
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>>29785364
I get that, but I was still pissed.
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>>29780006
10 gauge should have got a cash offer back at him.

Prior to the 1968 GCA no markings were required on long guns. 10 Gauges are also uncommon enough that having one for even 200 might be worth the novelty.
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>>29780614
A buddy of mine who had a ccw would always buy those guns and turn around and sell them back to his nigger and meth head friends.

You aren't going to outsmart anyone doing that.
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>>29780343
jesus. I got an actual "new" condition Norinco from someone my work buddy knew for only $200 last month, I couldn't imagine paying much more than that for one in perfect condition, let alone the beat to shit condition 98% of SKS are in.
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>>29779280
he obviously just didnt want to sell to you, and made an excuse. the amount of minors responding to you is hilarious though
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>>29781325
Makes me think he was trolling or trying to jew the seller or something.
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>>29781554
he says whilst posting on 4ching ching chong
>>
>Selling LE6920, 4 GI magazines, and 200 rounds of .223 on Armslist
>Asking $700, will go down to $600 if the buyer is reasonable

>Will you take $100 and a few fishing lures?
>I can't afford that. I'll take it off your hands for $200 since you're obviously burdened with that
>I'll pay you $300 and a boat motor! That's a good deal!
>Oh the 6920 can't fire 5.56 NATO so it's obviously defective. I'll take that shitty .223-only rifle off your hands for $350.
>I'll trade you a stock 10-year old 10/22 that I never bothered to clean and one (1) brick of shitty Thunderbolt ammo. This is a good deal and you are a scumbag for not accepting it

Fuck Armslist.
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>>29782025
>>29784483
It's a 629-2, so it's somewhere around the 80s.

>>29785422
His cash price was $1400

So I passed on that.
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>>29781554
>My time isn't that cheap.
I doubt that unless you're firing off a dissertation on why the price should be lower.
Sounds more like you're too impatient to wait for a reply which isn't the same as your time being more valuable, more a lack of impulse control.
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>>29785538
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>>29781930
Iktf too well

>want ptr91
>out of the 8 distributors only one of them has the 1400$ model
>have to wait 9 months until a GI is available
>the guns I want are never in
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>>29781236
I find them acceptable assuming you have a PS90 or some "would otherwise be an SBR" gun with a barrel that looks disproportionately long

But you might as well just make it an SBR
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>>29778428

Yea. I sold some tacti cool Mossberg "sniper rifle" to some kid on this board. I told him to make an offer and he offered $550 so I took it. Was only worth ~$300....Dick mode? Sure, but the annoying messages after telling me how his friends laughed at him and told him he got ripped and he asked ME how much it's really worth.

Fucking GOOGLE
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>>29785905
I sold this to my master for 300
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>>29785476
It's rare, nowadays, to find a working SKS for under $350. Consider your situation lucky, not typical.
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>>29780365
They once mispriced a JM stamped practically pristine Marlin 30/30 at $325 a couple years ago. Clerk asked 'I think this price is wrong...' as he rung it up.
Whateva nigga 2latenow
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>>29779280

Did you show an ID or anything? Did he ask for a birth date? Why the fuck would he need a calculator?
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>>29780006

Location?
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>>29785384
Underrated reference
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>>29779084
Why the fuck do people think anybody would ever be interested in the junk that's probably sat in their garage for a decade?
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>>29782536
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>>29785366
There's this fucker in my area who keeps listing a ps3 with like 50 games. He wants a "glock".

I'm half tempted to offer him $20 to just stop posting (and so I can play red dead redemption again)
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>>29785923
shoot well pupper
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>>29780028
eotech, aimpoint, trijicon, and other major supplier bulk packaging that i've ordered comes with multiple scopes or whatever in a cardboard carton with labelled smaller cardboard packets inside it separated by sleeves with syrofoam or vacuum pack filler on the top and bottom. trijicon ships 8 to a box for example.

the only OEM/LEA/MIL packaging that's white that I know of is aimpoint, and they have a little barcoded labelled on each box showing batch number and number 1 of 8 (or 4 of 8) and who packed it.

M16's are shipped in cardboard too.
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>>29779166
You do realize we as in North America have are own haggling pages on our newspapers, websites, and etc... right? How the hell are you so ignorant of any country without any facts lol?
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>>29780906
>most people, the older you get your cum becomes yellow or a darker shade of white.

It's like you've never seen cum before, did you really think everyone's cum was the same? Unhealthy cum sometimes comes out reddish brown
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>>29785323
>Saw a LOT of that shit during the Great Habbening, mostly people wanting to buy AR-15s but "not wanting to get ripped off."
meh, i ripped off a lot of noguns into hasguns and pocketed the money.

sold a beater N4 light carbine i had laying around with some troy and magpul on it for $3k.
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>>29779647
>>29780833
Nope if this fucker makes me hold it for more than 2-3 days then I'll ask for half the money upfront somewhere. If they have to "scrounge" up cash I give them 12 hours. I've had 4 instances where this happend and I gave their money back (kept $10-20 depending on their excuse) when they bailed on the deal.
Here's one of them
>selling my S&W Mod 625 (45 acp revolver)
>selling with 200 rds of defensive/practice ammo, original box, and two nice holsters.
>After many bad offers and down right dumb offers
>one old fud wants it for my asking price (selling it for $580, I know they go for more but eh, had two)
>He asks if I can meet up at his house which is 2 hours away.
>Hell no, tell him I can meet up half way if I have to but not driving 2 hrs
>He agrees, and we meet up tomorrow morning
> drive up and meet this guy
>Looks it over and finally says "I only have $400 with me now, would you take that?"
>Externally I'm smiling, internally I'm pissed.
> told him "no.. thank you", and start packing my stuff up and get in my car.
> I can see the panic and he calls out "wait! I let me check my back up wallet, I think I can scrounge up something."
>I wait but keep my car running.
> He pulls out another crisp $100 with a wallet full of cash.
>"That's all I have"....
>I drive off.

Mother fucker I just saw you pull your "backup wallet" brimming with cash fuck you. I decided to just keep the revolver and that was 2 years ago, I see them going for $800-1300 on gun sites now but I'll probably sell it for $650-700 if I ever feel like getting shut offers again.
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>>29781016
>You Americans
Boom you're done.
You don't know the struggle of retards that sell guns you eurocuck. No clue why you're inputting your sheep answer which you've probably heard over the Internet.
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>>29781016
>materials loose value over time

You fucking retard, guns are the least susceptible to this. Firearms don't wear out at the exponential rate that cars do, nor do they have a shelf life.
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>>29778907
are you from Utah? I tried selling some stuff there. everyone is a massive cheapskate. same thing, haggling by text, "what's your bottom dollar," etc.
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>>29785323
We have one of them in our armslist area... mofo buys low, sells high
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>>29785805
Thank you anon!

This gun is one year older than I am.

Hooray!
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>>29782649
>>29782957
So much this.
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>>29785535
>.223-only
God damn this myth needs to die. No 223 will explode with 556.
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>>29781555
Might as well just buy it from the fuckin store m9
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>>29780006

Sounds like you were trying to sell it on the ODT. think I saw your S&W listed there.

people on there really piss me off sometimes
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>>29788766
Buying used is cheaper privately but you have to do a transfer. Oh the horror.
>>
And of course on the other side of the spectrum
>dude selling stock ptr-gi
>selling $100 over what ptr wants for the damn thing factory new
>no modifications, no ammo, no case, no shipping, transfer fee to fall on buyer. 1 gun, 1 mag

Told him he was a fucking idiot and sent him a link to ptr industries product list. Ad keeps getting reposted with no change
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>>29782536
Jesus christ /k/ really is the easiest board to troll


this board is only beat by /b/ and /v/ for the most shit board, good job fags
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>>29780192

Are you really this dense?

Because when you buy in person you get to actually hold/inspect said firearm and get it much sooner, especially useful when considering used guns. However this doesn't warrant an extreme markup, buyer can decide what it's worth.

If two guns were same price online and in person I'd go with in person 100% of the time.

But if a brick and mortar is going to list guns at hundreds of dollars over what I can get it online for, it's not worth it. It would be nice to try and work out a deal so I can have a gun sooner and inspect it, but it's not worth a massive markup.

Case in point lgs had CZ-75B's listed at $700 new. I bought one online for $500 nib with two mags for $530 with transfer fee. I'd have to have my head up my ass to go with the former, so I told salesman at LGS I could get one a lot cheaper online, offering him to STILL MAKE A SALE BENEFITING US BOTH if he came down in price, he just gave me a "well, uh... No." So I bought online.

Is this really so hard to grasp?
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>>29781554
>telling lies on a bhutanese underwater shuffleboard forum
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>>29786931
Next time, don't greentext your story. You don't know how to do it right.
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>>29786931
I've had the same thing happen to me.

>old fudd interested in the two guns I'm selling
>says he wants them both and can pay my asking
>says he lives 2 hours away
>somehow, he gets me to agree to drive halfway
>when we meet up, he lowballs me,says that's all he can afford
>I start walking, he magically coughs up more cash
>still lower than the asking price he agreed to pay
>fuck him
>sell guns on gunbroker later that week
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>>29778428
My experiences have all been pretty good.

>buy memesin nagant+crate for 350 dollars from morbidly obese man
>meet in his apartment, takes a scan of my drivers license, fills out this gay reciept thing with my information and sends me on my merry way

>buy a brick of.22lr from some dude for 30 dollars
>call him, tell him I'm outside
>rolls up his garage door, exchange goods
>transaction complete in <30 seconds

>see armslist post for a Mossberg 500 persuader for 200 dollars
>guy says he's already emailing some dude but if I meet him first I get it
>agree to meet him when he gets off work at 0700 in the parking lot of a army navy surplus store
>checks my ID to see if I'm 21 because "the pistol grip makes it a pistol according to the law" but I'm 23 so I don't correct him
>I immediately post a listing on armslist for the same shotgun for 300 dollars and sell it to the guy who was emailing the dude I bought it from

>buy a complete lower from some dude in a burger king parking for 390 (spikes crusader and some other niceish things)
>dude says hes firm on price and not to waste our time
>when I call him to meet he repeats that he is firm on price and he'll walk away if I try to low ball him
>inspect lower, tell him I'll take it and hand him a wad of cash
>mfw we shake hands and he drives off without counting
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>>29778852
>not immediately accepting culturally-enriched-shotty
>not keeping it in plain view for your fellow poets ability to create rhymes about their jealous nature and/or similar hunting tools
>not posting pictures of yourself dual-wielding golden shotgun and tobacco products with questionable contents on the internet
It's like your personal heroes aren't 90s era rappers.
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>>29779007
Haggling is fine as long as you know how to do it. People who try to haggle with a firm seller don't know how to haggle.
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>>29779056
That's different. Guns are a lot more like collectables and tools than food or retail shit.
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>>29788128
No problem. Now will you sell the gun to me for $575?
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>>29782536
>send him the money
You're a special kind of stupid
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>>29780509
>Detroit
there's your problem
have you considered Ann Arbor :^)
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>>29783416
>The hardwood finish has a Browning/Winchester feel

Wannabe used car salesman detected. The stock on the RAS47 is weaker than balsawood
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>>29780566
When I was looking at an old Ford pickup to buy, my gf at the time said "you should only bring 1600 and use that in negotiation."

I informed her how stupid that was, because if someone showed up and tried that angle I'd tell them they wasted their time.
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>>29780587
How many shekels did you sell it for? For that kind of price you're visiting sinagoge every day don't you?
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>>29778852
>a gold spray painted mossberg 500 from 1990.


dear god, is something wrong with me if I suddenly want to go buy one and spray it gold?
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>>29781524
>>29781467
>>
Dear god it's cringy how all these morons don't know how haggling and trading private property works.
>>
>Post old single shot break action sears 12 gauge
>"$100 firm no trades" mentioned three fucking times
>Just want to make room in the safe
>$100 for click click booms seems fair
>Ignore slew of emails offering me trades, lower prices and Chechnyan viagra
>Also asking if I will drive across the state to sell a $100 gun
>I barely want to drive to the end of the block
>Old fudd boomer wants boomstick
>Tell him it's $100 cash take it or leave it
>Okeydokey
>Meet him at walmart
>Hurr Durr there's rust on this here butt plate
>I know, I took a picture of it and mentioned it in the listing
>I'll give ya sisty bucks fer it
>$100 firm means $100 firm
>This here shotgun aint werth no hundedd dollars, whats the lowest yull take fer it
>$120
>What kinda game is you tryna play
>$120 is the lowest I'll take
>You said it was a hundedd
>Well, you drive a hard bargain, $100 it is
>Dammit boy I told ya I ain't paying no hundded derllers fer dis here shotgun
>Fine $150 but it's my final offer
>Yer an asss whole
>Ive noticed

>Drive to Uncles house
>Merry early Christmas
>Shoot skeet with it, then eat burgers
>Uncle hangs it on mantle

Not dealing with this bullshit ever again.
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>>29793352

You sound like a cunt.
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>>29780208
haha holy shit thats a fucked up one
>>
I was selling a 6920 and I had some dumb offers like a glock and AK pistol, but other than those and 3 black guys hovering over the buyer and me and asking "how much wuz dat gun der?" It was a pretty good experience, kinda funny how you get more nervous about some random black guys than the buyer.
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>>29794515
It's you. You're the cunt.
Don't agree to a price and then haggle after wasting their time.
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>>29780530
>>29780579
The entitlement is real.

If someone doesn't want to sell their property at the price you want, they don't have to senpai.

You aren't entitled to whatever the fuck you want you fucking nigger.
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>>29780418
>>29780473
>>29779248
>>29779027
>>29781177
>>29778990
>>29778973
Don't want to derail this but any tips for haggling? Just general advice, lines and things to consider before trying it.
I don't want to google "how to haggle" because every darn "how to" is made by some moron with illusionary superiority and wont leave you with decent advice.
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>>29794810
>trying to explain haggling = forcing an autist to sell all his guns for $200 each

Why must every one of these threads derail into hyperbolic fallacy?
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>>29785422

Nothing special about a 10 gauge, 12 gauge magnums are superior in pretty much every single way.
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>>29794821
Well, just using what I've learned from the times I've been fucked over, here's a few tips.

1. Always offer less than asking.
2. Come to an agreement on the phone, or not, but always haggle once more on site. Actually, it's probably better if you don't mention the price at all on the phone.
3. Don't just come out with your offer right away. Warm up to the guy with some conversation about the gun, about him, about what kinds of guns he likes to collect, etc. Talk about where you go shooting and suggest you go shooting together sometime. Make him invest his time into the conversation first, make him like you.
4. This is more effective when you are talking on the phone and not just texting or emailing, so call instead of text.
5. When you do make the offer, be friendly about it. Don't act like a pawn shop proprietor. Just tell him that you'll give him X amount and ask him, will he accept? You should be aiming for him to meet you in between offer and ask prices, but if his counter-offer is not right in the median, then make another counter-offer.
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>>29795495
>So much this

You can haggle respectfully. There is no need to act like a huge tool just be fucking friendly.
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>>29781600
A dog could do that too
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>>29795619
A dog would never do that.
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>>29779399
Tell me about your sporter Mauser.
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>>29780625
>upstanding burrito american breaks into house
>ITS A FUCKING PANTHER
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>>29779602

Nah, pretty normal. Surprisingly enough, most average people aren't fuckheads.

I buy and trade a lot, and sometimes it gets weird and funny.

>be me
>selling old Ruger P-89
>decide to meet up with some guy in a parking lot
>had to work that day
>pull up still in cruiser
>hop out and walk over to the guy's car
>woah man! Is this like a sting or some shit? What the fuck dude!
>no.. here's the gun... do you have the cash?
>yeah, here you go man
>alright.. wait, you smell like pot. Are you smoking pot?
>no way man! Drug free!
>you promise
>I swear!
>pinky promise
>what?
>PINKIE PROMISE ME YOU DON'T DO DRUGS AND EVERYTHING IS FINE!
>shit! Okay man! I pinkie promise!
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>>29780625
That is scarier than the german panthers
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>>29795719
>shows up in a police cruiser
>starts giving the guy shit about an imagined weed smell

You're a fucking asshole.
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>>29779101
>>29779104
>>29779215
I'm not the guy you're responding to, but you seem to be upset? Want to talk about it?
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>>29779434
>Mass reply
>Arguing a different point than what was being discussed
5/10 made me reply
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>>29795957
Then what was "being discussed," praytell?
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>>29795630
A dog can do it to your dick.
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>>29780625
bet you bust real quick with the danger element in a bj situation
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>>29795967
Sellers are giving a price they will accept based on the condition/age/whatever of their firearm. They are annoyed when people haggle with that price.

You're arguing that used firearms should be priced differently due to different condition/age/whatever, and that haggling somehow balances the differences in product.
>thinking that sellers know exactly what their things are worth in free market conditions
And the buyers would be better equipped to judge worth how?

Also, the way the free market works is that if it's overpriced then nobody will buy it. Then because no sale, the seller lowers price.
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>>29795874
I'm not the guy you're responding to, but im upset, can i talk to you about it?
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