>not owning NVG what's your excuse for not owning the night?

>>29731453
I have some cheapo spygear NVGs if that counts

I can't find any info on /diy/ing it

Plus I have no experience in electronics aside from building my own pc that got fucked because it was a micro atx and I forgot to put a fan on the graphics card then played fucking doom 3 on it.

I would be the kinda idiot to do shit like that. Forget one detail and destroy my life's work or something.

>>29731453
i'm poor

I'd rather be in my nice warm comfy bed

Once I found out that even gen3s cant replicate what I used in splinter cell as a kid, I stopped caring about them so much. I have a gen1 monocular for night shooting, but it never gets used. If decent digital stuff becomes affordable, I might invest at some point, but it isn't a priority.

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>>29731487
this guy

I have a camera with a decent night vision camera does that count

>>29731492
>Once I found out that even gen3s cant replicate what I used in splinter cell as a kid

in what way? I can see fairly well with mine

>>29731453
Fuck you I want thermal.

>>29731453
I'm eyeing a gen 1+ badly. It's fairly cheap but I don't want to spend money on it if I could just get a gen 2 or something a bit better if I wait and save

>>29731522
If possible, try before you buy. Gen one stuff varies wildly in quality.

>>29731453
$$$

If night vision or thermal ever gets cheap enough without being garbage I'll happily snag a set.

Cant you get Russian surplus at a decent price?

Woah the got me light as a feather.

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But I do.
I own an Armasight Sirius with the white phosphorous tube, it's pretty good with manual gain adjustment and automatic brightness protection.
It's good and cheap, if not the cheapest 2 gen option, I would recomend getting the HDi tube though for a better resolution.

I can't justify spending all that money when I never shoot at night.

>>29731508
This.
Thermal is superior.
You can be the fucking predator with it.

>>29731646
GOOD thermal is superior to night vision
Bad thermal is way worse
I tried one of those torrey pine mini thermal sights at a trade show and literally couldn't see shit.

>>29731684
So many retards do not read the tm or ask literally anyone who knows how to calibrate the device. That being said yes not as cool as the video games but still lets you do horrible things to horrible people who never see it coming

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>>29731684
>Splinter Cell takes place in close range rooms and houses
>many times in well lit urban centers and houses that have lights on in other rooms
>one literally takes place in a CIA office where hallway night time running lights are on
>Lance is upset his PVS-14 can't see shit under starlight only conditions with heavy overcast looking past 200m on a 1x magnification optic
>blames Clancy

>>29731664
Thermal is great for detection
Sucks for identification.
Night vision its possible to identify people.

>>29731453

I do tho

>>29731890
Who needs identification if all they do is look like a target

>>29731453
I waiting for next gen nvg's to come out before U sink money into them just to look like a sperg. Would be great for night fishing though

Hypothetical question.

What if we do get into a war with another conventional military that regularly issues gpnvgs and peq boxes?

Can they see your lasers the same way you can see theirs or is there something that can circumvent this?

>>29731857
> with heavy overcast looking past 200m
Where did you get that?

So, let's say there are some operators operating at night and some goatherders become aware of the operators. If the goatherders use high powered weapon mounted lights, how blinded will the operators be and for how long? Will the goatherders have an advantage with all else being equal?

Any kind of support is off the table. This question is related to infantry versus infantry.

>>29734270

Of course they can see the IR lasers with night vision equipment. That's like asking if I turn on my flashlight in the dark will others see me?

No way to stop it, my IR laser comes with a pressure pad for a reason.

>>29735071
They won't be. I've glanced into headlights from 5m with pvs-14s and am fine literally .5s later. Just because a lot of light is entering them doesn't mean it will put out blinding amounts on your end.

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>>29731453

But I do own the night.

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>>29738418
What's that on the mini S-biner attached to the nod lanyard loop?

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https://tnvc.com/shop/tnvpvs-14-l3-gen3-omni-viii/

Would you say these are worth the money if I was going to splash out on a NVD

>>29731453
I don't pretend to be an operator.

Plus I have other things to spend money on that I will get more use out of.

>>29738418

what safe/cabinet is that? please tell me I am looking for something for all my guns that doesnt kill the bank but is good enough that a nig with a flatbar can't just instantly break into it

>>29738551
A lighter lease in case the j-arm breaks so the pvs won't hit the ground.

>>29738743
I got their ITT one. Absolutely love it. The L3 one will be nice too. Plus you have their dank warranty and you can get those gucci accessories all with the price of one shipment.

>>29738925
I'm assuming it's definitely worth the money to stretch to a gen 3 one though.

>>29738873
I don't know the actual maker, it's Redhead brand that I got on the employee discount at Bass pro.

>>29738947
Think of it this way. Why would you want to be the guy that bought some expensive NVG's but be the one who bought the "almost as good" ones? If you buy real gen 3's you essentially have the best shit even if it's just a PVS-14 compared to other dual tubes and whatnot, it's still the best tech out there for image intensification.

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nigga we tryin'

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dbal

>>29738997
Makes sense.

>>29738997
Also looking at the NVD I posted I see it can be attached to a rail. Any suggestion of sights/scopes that are normally compatible?

>>29739008
Please buy a proper helmet. Your skull crusher is hurting my head.

>>29738950

thanks for the information friend, i will direct my search based on that name

>>29731480

Here again

If anyone has the knowledge, please post info about /diy/ing night vision, flir, etc

I honestly want a "predator" style helmet one day

>>29739081
I'm happy with it. It's 3/16" thick and fairly solid. Holds 16 rifles and has a shelf.

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>>29739136
I doubt you'll be able to cook up something you'd be happy with or find usable. I did re-purpose the thermal off the front of a Cadillac onto a Go-Light that we stick on the roof while shooting pigs. One guy runs the thermal while everyone else has NADs (night-time advantage device, funnier to say "here put my nads on your face" than nods). The IR Torch is so those with nads can easily locate what the thermal is looking at.

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>>29739296

>>29739136
>>29731480
IR sensors are expensive. Good optics are expensive. AV equipment that's miniature and lightweight is expensive. Even if you're really good, at best you'd be able to jury rig an existing IRNV camera to a small oculus-like headset or cell phone screen which would be huge and unwieldly.

Just buy the goggles, you can get a pair for 1000 bucks easily.

Or, if you're using them outdoors, do you want me to tell you a secret? Your eyes adjust to low light levels, exponentially. A scope will amplify light level by the square of the radius difference to your eye (a=π*r ^2). So if your pupil is dilated to 7mm and you're shooting from a 50mm scope, you have ~50x the light going into your eye.

>>29734270
With some camcorders you can see the lasers hell even some smart phones will pick it up

>>29736286
This

>>29739737
All CCD chipped cameras/camcorders will see IR to some degree.

>>29739771
Fuck well it has been a decade since I had to worry about goat fuckers with the best China has to offer. Thanks for the heads up

>>29739049
EOTech (especially), Aimpoint. You should be getting a laser, though. It's best to keep the NVG on your helmet. The only real point of putting it behind a scope is for passive IR aiming. Thermal scopes on guns and NVG's on the helmet are a fairly optimal setup for future upgrade plans.

>>29739830
Noted I'll keep that in mind.

>>29731617
>HDi
>i
>international

Where you live friend?

>>29734273
Those are the only conditions where a PVS-14 from the last 20 years is actual dog shit.

I have found my sets of NVG's to be as magical as Tom Clancy implied. I enjoy seeing in the dark and find them awesome.

>>29731453

I never liked LARP

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>>29740261
Here I am with my friends LARPing.

>>29740383

fag

>>29731453
my idiot friend who's now in the national guard lost mine on a hunting trip years ago. It was an old Russian thing my uncle gave me too, big old brick of a thing.

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just picked these here up for 5k. dbal is on the way to go atop my scar17

I got a cheapo monocle and an illuminator for fucking around. It's fun and you can see pretty good if you focus everything right.

>>29739136
>I know nothing
>I have a history of carelessness
>Somebody spoon feed me information

This type of attitude disgusts me

>>29740383
Is that gen 3?

>>29743424
Yes, in a full moon.

>>29743788
The quality compared to some of the older stuff is just staggering.