/akg/ Frankenbuild Edition

>>29652185
Learn to make the thread properly retard.
>We just had a Franken-build edition 8 days ago, get an original idea faggot

https://desustorage.org/k/thread/29555465/

Delete and try again

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>Frankenbuild
>Not having a faithful recreation built using war torn parts
That frankenbuild would look better with a different muzzle device, in my opinion.

>>29652185
Nice job fucking up the thread. Coulda just copied and pasted the previous thread and changed the theme and thread # from the last thread. Jesus fuck, new fags.

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>>29652286

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>>29652185
imagination? ok.

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>>29652185
That's actually kind of interesting.

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>>29652402
Meant for: >>29652385

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>>29652443
>azov
Wannabesalonigger please.

>>29652443
>AZOV patch.

>>>/pol/

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>>29652402

>>29652473
You see tovarisch, when Kalashnikov out of bullet, rotate to next Kalashnikov! No need of the reloading!

>>29652473
Look closely

>>29652537
Those are SKSs

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>>29652537
>>29652545
is actually SKS
i just noticed, cos it hurts my brains to watch it

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>>29652443
Nice patch, I've got one on my PC but haven't made taken an updated photo yet :^

>>29652537
Hey, Sav.

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>>29652185

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>shrug
http://www.clearviewinvest.com/amd65buttstock.aspx

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Anyone know where I can buy a Bulgarian triangle folder with the rubber recoil pad?

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>>29652661
You could also just get the AMDTech cheek riser. Honestly though, I'm just wondering why anyone would want to buy one of those new disgusting 63/65 mishmashes. Too bad FEG stopped importing the proper AMD-65s.

>>29652685
K-Var

>>29652724
Sold out

>>29652661
Ew...

>>29652738
It is the shit though. I enjoy mine.

>>29652738
You may have to resort to a parts kit.

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>>29652185
Maximum wood.

Anywhere to get a 100 series folding stock set? I don't want the civi version due to muh autism.

>>29652802
I think I'll just scour Armslist and Gun Broker and hope for the best.

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Are the izhmash sporters 100% Russian AKs and are they any good?

>>29652862
Yes but they're the very definition of bare bones, meant to dodge import bans.

Really, they exist to be converted back to a mil spec configurations.

>>29652862
Yes and yes.

>>29652862
They're the closest thing to true Russian AKs that you can buy. They're good quality but you need to convert them to bring them back to what an AK should be.

>>29652828
>I don't want the civi version
Then you'll have to resort to private listings on forums or gunbroker, nobody stocks the real deal. They're not easy to find.
>>29652862
100% Russian. Fairly good quality although I would probably put the SLRs over the average Saiga due to parts fitment and finish. Perfectly reliable and properly built though.

>>29652466

>you

>>>/lgbt/

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>>29652960
They are only after you convert them, you dingus.

>Bulgarian or bust

>>29653341
>They're good quality but you need to convert them to bring them back to what an AK should be.

Try reading before you post next time.

>>29652938
>>29652944
>>29652960
>>29653286

Is it possible for that sporter i had pictured, to accept the other furniture designs, the typical AK wood furniture?

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>>29653376
Yes, but you will need to swap out/add some parts. That's what people mean by converting them.

Pic related is my saiga that used to be in the sporting configuration.

>>29653376
How do you not know about Saiga conversions? Spend 5 minutes on google and answer your own question.

>>29653376
Yes it is possible but it requires you to do what's called a Saiga conversion. How hard the conversion is to do depends on how "correct" you want to do it. You can do one that works with a dremel and a screwdriver. But to do it the best way it can be done requires much more.

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>>29652862
i love mine, i converted it though

>>29653402
>>29653376
This is an example of a Saiga that's been converted pretty much 100%. The old gas block and front sight block have been removed, the barrel has been notched to accept the lower handguard retainer, the gas tube has been replaced, the gas block and front sight block have been replaced and pinned to the barrel, the trigger guard has been removed and a new trigger guard and mag catch assembly has been riveted on (five rivets). No simple task really.

>>29653286
I already have several WTB ads out.

>>29653462

Serms after all that, you could have just bought an arsenal...

>>29653575
Saigas used to be extremely cheap
>>29653465
Check WTS ads too, I know when I go to sell something I don't even check the WTB section, I just list it. Also you can create a saved search on gunbroker that will email you daily with search results. "5.5mm" would be a good keyword.

>>29653575
They used to be cheaper. Some people also just want an actual Russian AK.

>>29653605

Isnt that what an Arsenal is?

>>29653575
>muh 5.5mm hinge
>muh 100 series stock

>>29652661
cool

Steel AK74 5.45 magazines.

Anyone know a website that has them in stock?

>>29653618
Arsenal is a bulgy company that at one point sold converted saigas, but it's been a long time since they've done that. They do the pretty much only AK-100 series clones currently.

>>29653641
Apex is where I got mine.

>>29653618
Arsenals are Bulgarian.

>>29653675
>mixing up Arsenal USA and Arsenal of Bulgaria
Senpai... I just....

>>29653593
Thanks.

Gonna have JBI armory do the build. Since RD doesn't want to install the triangle stock.

>>29653694
You mean that one company that also acts as the US importer for the other?

>>29653694
Please explain how they're different, other than one's a manufacturer and the other is an importer?

They're both under FIME Group's corporate umbrella, along with K-VAR.

>>29653755
>>29653817
Snapple owns Dr. Pepper and does contract stuff with Coca Cola, doesn't mean they're all the same thing you faggots.

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>>29654082
Arsenal Inc was founded in the USA specifically for the licensed manufacture and importation of Arsenal products. It's not like they're unrelated companies

>>29654178
I'm not saying they're unrelated, I'm just saying that they're not the same thing.

>>29654198
You remind me of someone I talked to who thought Nintendo was an American company just because the North American subsidiary is called Nintendo of America.

>>29654223
Kill yourself. If you're too stupid the understand that just because something is a subsidiary or does work with or for another company does not mean it's the same thing.

What's the general consensus regarding Inter-Ordinance AKs?

>>29654399
Stay away from them. They're terrible.

>>29654399
Avoid at all costs.

>>29654399
You know full wel.

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>>29654271
Holy shit, that damage control and intellectual disconnect.
>T-they're different guys because they're not in the same building or in the same exact business.
One builds and exports, the other imports and sells.
FIME is the only entity allowed to import Bulgarian Arsenals, so for all intensive porpoises, they're the same.

>>29654421
>>29654424
Thanks

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hows everyone doing tonight?

>>29654446
>they're the same exact thing because they're owned by the same company
Sure thing.

>>29654478
>utg handguards
>crappy AR-15 buffer tube and stock
ehhh.

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>>29654478
Just waiting for work to end.

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>>29654478
Boss went home early. Five minutes after she left, so did I.

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>>29652286

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>>29654510
>They're completely different even though they are in the same exact business, just the two opposite sides of said business.
Sure thing.

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>>29652185
>Post labors of love and imagination.
I guess I'm the only one I know of who's ever done it.
I love how it looks personally, but it's just way too front heavy. And it was bad enough already as far as that went.

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one more

>>29654809
Again I'll reiterate that I'm not saying they're completely different, I'm saying they're not the same thing.

>>29654861
Semantics.

>>29654915
You're right, you're the one arguing semantics. I'm arguing definitions.

>>29654820

that's beautiful, anon.

>>29654820
>>29654830
Makes me regret not getting one when they could be had for so cheap.

Does anyone want to buy six 7.62x39 bakelites? MUESUM QUALITY MY FRIENDS. $40 each, email [email protected]

>>29655070
Free shipping or...?

>>29654928
By definition they are 2 sides of the same coin.
Importer and exporter.
The one (importer) would not exist without the other (exporter).

So you are arguing semantics.

>>29655139
But that's not what we're talking about you faggot.

>>29655127
sure, i dont have an ak anymore so im just trying to get rid of them. I also have some polish and Romanian mags

>>29655393
>>29655364
>>29655352
>>29655333
>>29655322
>>29655305
>>29655296
>>29655282
But why?

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almost finished un-tacticooling a wasr. Just waiting on the upper handguard. The dong feels so right in your hands, even if it does get in the way of reloads

>>29655169
That's exactly what we're talking about.
But I'm done.
You win.
They're not the same, you pendantic fuck.

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Throwing around the idea of getting rid of the 105. Been thinking that going to a 106 would help me consolidate calibers. Or one in 7.62x39 would be nice because the ammo is cheap and available locally.

Anyone want said 105? Figured I'd start asking $1000 OBO. Or is 5.45 vastly superior to 5.56 and worth keeping for some special snowflake reason?

>>29655410
http://www.smallarmsreview.com/display.article.cfm?idarticles=1842

>>29655508
Do you have the original furniture? Also where you at? Finally, got an email or something?

>>29655508
Time stamp faggot, otherwise don't waste people's time.

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>>29655565
Unfortunately this is how I received the rifle. I wish I had all of the original furniture.

my email is [email protected]

>>29655577
I've posted the rifle before, but yeah. I'll take a pic with a timestamp

>>29655605
Post pictures of the bore and guts pls.

>>29652685

The genuine bulgarian triangles are rare, they Kvar hasn't imported them in a few years and they are sold out everywhere.


The only way to get one right now is to buy a SLR107-34

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guess I'll repost, since no new pics

>>29655605
>>29655508
What state?

Opinions on the 3rd gen TWS dogleg rail?

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>>29655668
ordered a Yugo sling last night. Thanks to the anon that directed me towards that. should be here around the end of the week.

>>29653817

Arsenal USA and FIME are staffed by the same exact employees out of the same exact building, the word FIME only exists because Russia was upset bulgarian and russian guns were being sold under the arsenal name at the same time.

Which is surprising because Arsenal bulgaria is licensed by Izhmash to produce Kalashnikovs.


The word FIME only exists on import paperwork.

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>>29655577
Timestamp

>>29655665

Yeah, that's what I'm seeing. Found a few original Russians for $250+ but that's more than I'm willing to spend on what is largely a cosmetic upgrade.

>>29655721
Neat. What state?

>>29654399
>Inter-Ordnance
wew lad

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>>29655671
>>29655755
Alabama. Auburn to be specific.

>>29655639
Incoming

>>29655713
>Which is surprising because Arsenal bulgaria is licensed by Izhmash to produce Kalashnikovs.


They still were upset because would you want your brand being sold along side technically a competitors product being sold by the same company?

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>>29655639
I couldn't get one that wasn't super white washed

>>29655695
Nice, glad I could help.
Let us know the shape it's in.
I got a pair of them for my Yugos when they were having a free shipping promo.
They were in pretty good shape, albeit a little faded and dirty.
They still got plenty of slingin' left in 'em though.

>>29655946
i'm having trouble finding surplus wood butt stock for a yugo

>>29655985
Surplus?
You'll have to hunt the forums for that.

You can get a new production one, cut the same as surplus (and stamped with your serial, if you want) and not American made, from Two Rivers Arms.

http://www.tworiversarms.com/Parts.html

That's about all I know of. (Besides Ironwood, of course)

>>29656033
I always thought the straight comb yugo sniper stock was sexy

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>>29652185
This is a factory built grenade I bought.

Does anyone want to buy some Polish, Romanian, and bakelite 7.62x39 mags? $40 for bakes, $10 for the polish and romy. email [email protected] shipping is included if you buy more than one.

>>29656154
How you handling payment? PayPal?

>>29656193
Yeah either paypal or money order, email me for details

does anyone have an opinion on the us palm ak grip? i might get one , or a tapco saw grip

>>29655668
thoughts on the x54r vepr? I see you have a muzzle break, how is that helping?

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So has anyone dropped an ALG trigger into a x54r VEPR?

I know it requires some modifications, just seeing if anyone has actually done it..

>>29656268
I bought one and it was a lot less comfortable than I thought it'd be. Took it off before I even went to the range. If it was just 15% more slender it'd be fine.

>>29656279
I actually haven't been able to shoot it yet. I plan on dropping in an ALG trigger next and switching the furniture though.

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>>29652293
not war torn enough.

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>>29656432

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>>29656447

http://www.rockislandauction.com/viewitem/aid/67/lid/3393
>I hit that ginobili with my left hand up like
WEW

>>29656351
I second this

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>>29656459

>>29652806
Nice rpk stock anon

>>29656466
Glad I'm not the only one. I don't even have small hands either, it's just the weird fatness of the grip in all the wrong places.

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>>29656460

I done fucked up/akg/

Can't get the upper handguard furniture back on

>>29656623
Details gurl.

>>29656623
A little oil, crescent wrench and/or strap wrench works well enough

>>29656636
None to give, just twisted it off for the first time to check it out and it wont twist back on

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>>29656672
Forgot pic


>>29656648
Shiet, I don't have any wrenches here

>>29656672
just wear work gloves and torque it with ur hands

>>29656683
Push it in, before you start spinning it

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>>29656672

Quit babying it and it will go back in.

It's a fucking AK. It only understands slav and violence.

>TFW installing balkan stock
>Have to buttstroke the floor to get the bitch in the trunnion
>GREAT JOB!

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New acquisition. Picked up a set of K-Var milspec furniture to replace the fagpul, but now that I've got the plum handguard & grip installed I'm kind of liking the original stock. Thoughts?

>>29656683
do you have a vice? attach by the flats and twist with your hands

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Just picked her up last week. Honestly I have no real intent to fuck with the rifle, shoots fine and feels good. Would rather spend the money on ammo and some surp mags.

>>29652185
why would you chop ur donkey dick? It to much 4 u 2 handle?

>>29656709
I like it. The plum looks good

>>29656709
>Thoughts?

I hate those stocks, personally.
>They don't fold
>They aren't adjustable
>They're Slav-LOP
>THEY LOOK LIKE THE GODDAMN TRIANGLE FOLDER, YET THEY DON'T FUCKING FOLD WHAT THE FUCK MAN

If you need a longer stock, get one.

>>29656719
I think this guy might be able to hook you up>>29656154

>>29656719
I'd throw some surplus furniture on there, that's really my only suggestion.

>>29656743
thanks senpai

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>>29656750
Really? The shit Century put on it is actually pretty nice, I'm digging the blonde look even if it contrasts with the grip

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>>29656709
I cannot love that Magpul furniture. It just looks...off to me.

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>>29656716
>>29656708
>>29656695
>>29656686
Thanks fellas, was fucking with it waiting for replies and it suddenly went in.
>>29656708
>quit babying it
Yea, it's a bad habit I need to break I know.

>>29656719
Nice. Looks like we got the exact same rifle, and almost at the same time. Not sure what's up with that grip though.

Heres mine

Ignore the star wars shit

>>29656737
>THEY LOOK LIKE THE GODDAMN TRIANGLE FOLDER, YET THEY DON'T FUCKING FOLD WHAT THE FUCK MAN

That's actually what I like about it. Has the look of the side-folder but feels nice and sturdy, honestly more solid and comfortable than the mil-spec buttstock I've got IMO.

>>29656784
Is it solid wood or laminate? That'd be my only concern.

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>>29656478
>>29656459
>>29656447
Looks nice, but
>no carvings
Shiggy.

>>29656828
Not sure, I just took it down to clean and it seemed like solid wood with a coat or two of laquer/finish. Does it matter significantly?
>>29656789
Looks like you picked up a 2015ish production WASR, and my grip's a bakelite that I had lying around, hated the shitty plastic one it shipped with

>>29656897
That's pretty specific, how can you tell?
And what was wrong with the grip?

>>29656897
By the furniture and the p-mag I just guessed, assuming we got the same gun. Nothing wrong with the grip, I just like bakelite and it felt kind of flimsy

>>29656897
Not a whole lot. Solid wood is less durable than laminate or polymer but unless you're really putting that thing through the ringer, it should be fine.

>>29656959
I went full retard and bumped 80 rounds through it the other day, and the wood seems in good shape. Oil and powder res wiped off fine when I cleaned it too

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>>29656789

Nice Millennium Falcon broski.

>>29656977
>>29656942
Any other WASR owners get that glue/resin/sealant crap seeping out of nooks and crannies after first use? What is that shit? Cosmoline?

>mutha fuckin lego train

I forgot those were a thing desu

Is tgat a straight pull swiss mauser?

>>29656977
It's mostly a humidity thing. A solid wood stock will swell and contract and might eventually crack in humid conditions. But we're talking like, jungles of Vietnam humidity here.

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>>29656981
>>29656989
>>29656989
>>29656981
Looks like a nugget and a shotgun to me homes, not sure where you're seeing a mauser.

Yeah that shit's cosmoline. Nothing to worry aboot

>>29657011
Or Florida, kek

>>29656989
>I forgot those were a thing desu
They're great for moving my ammunition & magazines around my house.

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>>29657011
>>29657038
Good to know. Shouldn't be an issue here

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>>29657049
kek'd
>>29657033
czech'd.

When does the paranoia about every possible thing breaking or cleaning it wrong go away?
Is this a common occurrence for a first firearm or am I fucking nuts?

>>29657061
Honestly, as long as it's sealed up fine with a shellac or poly or something it should outlast you.

>>29657062
>When does the paranoia about every possible thing breaking or cleaning it wrong go away?

>Breaking
Unless you dump 250 rounds in three minutes, you don't have anything to worry about.

>Cleaning wrong
After about the 3rd cleaning.

What are some of issues with older WASR 10s besides the canted sights, mag well problems and bad rivets?

Assuming you have the opportunity to buy one, for a good price, that has good sights, decent mag fit and good rivets are there any other major or minor issues to be aware of?

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>>29657061
I'd still throw some Romy G furniture on there.

>dat dong

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>>29657062
It's your first gun ever? And you got an AK? Shieet nigga

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>>29657095
Sure is bruh. Couldn't find any Nuggets in my area , discovered the WASR-10 just in time.

>>29657080
>3rd cleaning
b-but what if I'm doing it wrong

>>29657072
Seems sturdy>>29657088
If im goin for the war-torn look I will. I don't really care for the dong, functional as it may be

>>29657062
>lesscantthanarsenal

>>29657107
>b-but what if I'm doing it wrong

Tell you what. You're only doing it wrong if you rub metal on metal.

>>29657115
Honestly the dongs are overrated
t. a guy with three

>>29657107
Nuggets arent worth it anymore desu. I picked mine up in 2012 for 99 plus tax at Dunham's, now they go for fucking 200+ in my area. You dun good, you should pick up a .22 though, by far my favorite fun to plink with

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Why are magazines with trench art so cool? Whenever I see them pop up for sale I try to buy them.

To other people it lowers their value but to me it makes me want them more. I think it's cool having magazines that a bored conscript doodled on with his knife.

>>29657133
>Nuggets arent worth it anymore

This meme should really die.

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>>29657133
forgot pic, heres mine next to papa

>>29655452
Paracord gas tube pls

>>29657122
>lesscantthananarsenal
Fug, what?

>>29657130
Oh aight. I don't go crazy I just use outers solvent on a patch and then push it through the barrel, and on a q-tip through the FCG and the end of the piston. And wherever I can find soot.

>>29657133
>>29657168
Fucking kek. Yea I might eventually pick up a .22. Theres too much I wanna do with my AK before I get another rifle though


I hope some of you guys are going to Arkadia Ranch this year, I think I might end up being one of the only AKfags there

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>>29657168
>fucking cup holders in your sofa

>>29657185
>Fug, what?
I was just memeing. One of the newest, dankest memes is that Arsenals suddenly all have a canted FSB.

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>>29657162
How so? Why would I pay $200 plus for a 91/30 anymore? The thing is fun, but it doesnt really fill a purpose in my little arsenal besides nostalgia

>>29657187
They light up too :)

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>>29657194
don't play with my heart like that anon, I'm pretty sure my sights are a tiny bit canted and the only advice I've gotten on it is to hit it with a fucking hammer

>>29657227
>Why would I pay $200 plus for a 91/30 anymore

Find me a cheaper .30-cal rifle.

I'll wait.

>>29657229
Yeah don't fucking do that. A little cant is par for the course with WASRs

>>29657253
Sporterized mausers? My local armlist is full of them. Fuck I found an older .30-.06 pump remmy for $230 but I dont like 7600s

>>29657229
>the only advice I've gotten on it is to hit it with a fucking hammer

>>29657229
Here you go friend: https://youtu.be/BQE9d9LDhOA
I will say though that your rifle doesn't seem to have enough cant to justify it.

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>>29657339
Thanks m8, I'll check that video out. I'm having trouble getting a good enough picture on just my phone though

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>>29657087
DON'T FUCKING IGNORE ME YOU MEME LOVING FUCKERS

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>29652185
what is cheapest place to order slant brake?

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>>29657194
Unfortunately that meme is very well alive with my arsenal... Bought a 107 from Atlantic and my FSB was so crooked I had to use the wind age tool and crank the post over so far it was pressing up against the right leaf just to zero. Then I said fuck it and bought an rpk sight. Oh and my gas block is canted. Still butt hurt about it. Pic related is the 107

>>29657409
Canted gas block/gas tube and generally shitty construction.

>>29657464
>$5 is bretty cheap
http://www.robertrtg.com/store/pc/AK47-SLANT-MUZZLE-BRAKE-154p1620.htm

>>29657087
Just go ahead and do it. Assuming everything is straight, the magwell is decent, and the rivets are alright it's worth it if you can pick it up on the cheap (less than $550 or less, otherwise save up your shekels goy)
>>29657409
Fuck you.

>>29657339
Didn't really think there could be a problem with the front sight pin as well as the entire frame itself, but here it is

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>>29657514
forgot the picture

>>29657528
That is 100% fine. There is nothing to correct about that rifle.

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>>29657528
Rifle is fine. Go shoot stuff

>>29657528
Looks fucked

Definitely not safe shoot

>>29657468
Is the upside down sight leaf sight ears trick that effective to visualize cant

So the day after I took home my M70AB2 I noticed there was some pretty bright reddish orange stuff on the interior side wall of the receiver near the trigger. It came right off when I cotton swabbed it and left a soft discoloration.

I was told by a friend this was probably some sort of grease, is that true? I'm worried it was some sort of rust.

>>29657528
Do you shave your legs?

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>>29657575
Nah m8, just not very hairy and it's an iphone camera

>>29657546
>>29657543
>>29657554

>>29657559
It's probably just grease but keep an eye on it. I had an M70 that started to develop rust around the rivets for reasons I couldn't figure out..

>>29657611

Is orange grease around the trigger group a normal thing though?

The fucking indian who sold me this thing apparently didn't clean it before shipping it.

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>>29657599
>and it's an iphone camera
Literally not an excuse. Pic related was taken with a crappy old Moto X. It's about dat natural light senpai

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/k gave me some good advice when I asked for help building. Returning with results: Hungarian AKMS from Arms of America with a fully heat-treated and black oxided receiver I did myself.

>>29657626
Yeah, just clean it off. I wouldn't worry unless you actually see corrosion.

>>29657599
What?

Are you seriously concerned about that front sight? There is literally nothing wrong it it. The rifle is zeroed with the post drifted ever so slightly to the left. Big fucking whoop.

Again, there is nothing to correct about that rifle. If it seriously bothers you then maybe you should stick to ARs.

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>>29657640

>>29657652
>>29657640
Looks like you did good.

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>>29657634
holy shit that's pretty

>>29657643
Im just not experienced enough to know when something is seriously wrong and when it's not yet

>>29657634
That is really nice. 74 right? Is that a flash hider or simething? what is that?

>>29657668
Thanks. The only issue I had with the whole build was this was the 'Polish AKMS' flat and the rear underfolder trunnion was off by about 3mm. So the rear rivets are garbage and bug the shit out of me. The rest of it went together great. Got the barrel pre-headspaced and was able to line it up really easy. I can hang around for a bit and answer any questions to try to pay back the help I received.

>>29657641

Alright, thanks anon. I own two ARs but haven't even fired an AK (still haven't, hoping to get out this weekend) and am not used to how jank these things are comparatively.

When I googled "orange grease AK" I didn't really find anything.

>>29657686
>74 right?
SLR-104FR
>Is that a flash hider or simething? what is that?
Bulgarian 4 piece flash hider/booster

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>>29657669
It's just a standard SLR-104FR with a US palm grip, ALG AKT, and a 4-piece flashhider senpai.
>>29657686
>That is really nice. 74 right?
Yup, SLR-104fr.
>Is that a flash hider or simething? what is that?
http://ak-builder.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=30405

>>29652473
Neva been dun befo!

>>29652661
thats pretty neat. ugly as shit but neat

>>29656154

Poles and romanians never made 7.62 bakelites.

>>29657792
>Polish, Romanian, and bakelite

So why do I hear good things about WASR 10s but bad things for Century arms?

>>29657808

Because the WASR doesn't shake itself apart and isn't heavy as fuck

>>29657808
Century doesn't make WASRs, just imports them and makes them 922r compliant.

>>29657808
Century arms is american

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>>29657808
Because imported by =/= built by

>>29657823
>>29657828

So why bother buying an Arsenal vs a Century? If both those companies just import rather than build?

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>>29657611

Actually now that I check out the rivets there's a bit of rust there too. It has to be rust then.

Is this one of the things you have to expect with these rifles? It came here from a coastal state so hopefully it's in better hands here.

>>29657844
What?

>>29657844

Because Arsenals (supposedly) are higher quality.

>>29657844
Because Bulgaria makes the best AKs out there. Even the man MK himself (pbuh) admitted it. WASRs are great and Romania makes great guns, but Bulgaria are the best (current) AK builders of Europe.

Also Arsenal Las Vegas =/= Arsenal Bulgaria

Two entirely different companies.

Arsenal Las Vegas converts/converted Saigas (which are made in and imported from Russia) and Arsenal Bulgaria manufactures rifles and imports them into the US

Also this question is fucking stupid and you should feel bad for being a retard

>>29657847
I really have no idea what to tell you because the same thing happened with mine. I took good care of it. I'd just keep it clean and oiled and it will probably still be fine. Mine didn't gt any worse once i noticed it.

>>29657882
Arsenal Las Vegas also does work on the Arsenal of Bulgaria imports which are brought in through FIME. Not the same thing but they're not different companies.

>>29657882
>Two entirely different companies.
They aren't though. See: >>29654178

This isn't like Kalashnikov USA vs Kalashnikov Concern. The Arsenals are very closely related since the US one was founded by the Bulgarian one.

>>29657900

All arsenal Las vegas does is add the 922r parts and mill out the magwell to accept double stack mags.

The saiga sporting rifles require A lot of work to resemble a AK, the bulgy guns are much closer to their factory configuration vs the saigas.

>>29657882
>Also Arsenal Las Vegas =/= Arsenal Bulgaria
>Two entirely different companies.
>Arsenal Las Vegas converts/converted Saigas (which are made in and imported from Russia) and Arsenal Bulgaria manufactures rifles and imports them into the US

Holy fuck this shit again.
Who imports the Arsenal Bulgarian rifles?
I give you a hint, it's fucking Arsenal LV.

Saigas are banned, and the SGL line is gone until they're not.
I bet you think the FIME marked rifles were worse than Arsenal marked.
>Protip - they simply changed the import mark.

>>29657900
>>29657919

http://www.arsenalinc.com/usa/FAQs.html#q5

>Q: Is Arsenal Inc. and Arsenal Co. of Bulgaria the same company?
>A: Arsenal Inc. of Las Vegas, Nevada is not the same company as Arsenal Co. of Kazanlak, Bulgaria. Arsenal Inc. manufactures their own products and is the exclusive distributor for Arsenal Co. products.

The only thing Arsenal Las Vegas does to the products they import from Arsenal Bulgaria is put the necessary US made parts on the rifles to make them legal. They're only the distributor of Arsenal Bulgaria. They're not the same company.

>>29657968
This

Straight from the horses mouth

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Question.

Do you worry that owning an AK will make you a bit of an outsider, an oddity, or sometimes even someone to be looked down upon? Whether it's family, or your AR shooting friends, have you ever gotten people calling you a commie or terrorist for owning an AK?

>im the only one among my shooting buddies who owns an AK
>tfw they hum the Soviet national anthem when I join them at the range

>>29657944
>Who imports the Arsenal Bulgarian rifles? I give you a hint, it's fucking Arsenal LV.
No shit Arsenal Las Vegas imports rifles from Arsenal Bulgaria.

Does that make the Cugir factory and Century Arms the same company because one manufactures WASRs and one imports/distributes them? Of course not.

>>29657968

So Arsenal Co. makes the bulgie parts for the AK, and Arsenal Inc. of Las Vegas puts some US parts on them to comply with 922r.

Got it.

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>>29658030
Who cares, you're enjoying an American past time.

>>29658030
>opens a crate of yugo M67
>ah genocide

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>>29658030
https://youtu.be/4Byfd-Mrp78
Never forget your roots in /k/. Convert them to the righteousness that is the AK platform

>>29658030
>>29658107

Yeah exactly, owning a Serbian AK means I don't have to worry about associating with judeo-bolshevism, just mudslime genocide.

>>29658059
>So Arsenal Co. makes the bulgie parts for the AK
Arsenal Co/Arsenal Bulgaria manufactures the rifles. The Arsenal SLR line are all made in Bulgaria. The only US made parts on the SLR line of rifles are the trigger, hammer, disconnector, muzzle brake, hand guards, pistol grip, and polymer stock, all of which are added in the US when imported to comply with 922r.

I'm not sure about the SGL line as I've never owned one, but I'm guessing the 922r parts are the same plus whatever parts are necessary on a converted Saiga.

>>29658030
>Do you worry that owning an AK will make you a bit of an outsider, an oddity, or sometimes even someone to be looked down upon?

No. It's what I like, and it's what I am most comfortable with. If people have a problem with that, they have not enough of their own shit to worry about.

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>>29657746
>SLR-104FR with a US palm grip, ALG AKT

Good taste, anon.

>>29658216
meh, changed out the US palm grip the day after I took that

Gents, which 7.62 arsenal should i get? Prefer polymer to metal stocks, dont really care for folding

>>29658454
Your only option is SLR 107 or SAM7 unless you want to play $1500+ for a used SGL

Between the SLR and SAM7 I'd go with the SLR every day of the week.

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>>29658186
>Thinking that your gun makes a political statement.
>stormniggery
>>>/pol/

>inb4 tumblreddit
>pic related.

why the fuck am I cleaning the piston what's wrong with me

>>29658724

I just get warm fuzzies knowing parts of my rifle might have helped slaughter subhumans.

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>>29656857
2nd of 3 carvings.

>>29657157
Trench art is cool because it's a form of personalization. It usually shows that something was issued and nobody bothered going back over it to "fix" the condition and instead the item was chucked. People who don't like trench art must be dull.

>>29657599
All of my photos are from an old iPhone 5s's camera.

>>29658030
Nothing stops you from owning multiple guns, you know. I own a good AK and a great AR. This alone puts me in front of most of my friends when it comes to gun ownership. Why would I care about their thoughts of my AK? They can call it a commie gun all they want, but at the end of the day it's a firearm they don't have and something they always ask to shoot whenever we head out shooting.

>>29658753
That's even more autistic than naming your gun. Glad to know that my firearm was used to combat genocide and protect rights rather than demolish them.

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Just pushed a patch through the barrel and the motherfucker came out blue

>>29658779

They do that.

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>>29658770

I suppose a good goy tripfag cuck like you would be glad his rifle has enabled the existence of a plague that seeks to destroy him.

>it's even in your tripcode

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Why do people treat Yugo M67 like the pre-apocalypse ammo from Metro?

Besides being a bit more yaw happy, brass cased, and having been made by a country that no longer exists, is there anything else about it that's any better than a box of Golden Tiger?

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>>29658779
Copper fouling, I believe.

>>29658836
>Le XD Russia is the greatest nation on Earth, Serbs can do no wrong, Putin will bring about the second coming of the white race!

Yep, /pol/acks are the new furfags. Stay angry that the closest you'll get to a Serbian AK (assuming you're even hasguns) in the states is Century shit, whereas the majority of my AK's parts actually went through the war.

>>29658844
Pretty much the yaw-happy aspect, I'd say. People like it because it's ballistics aren't shit, unlike standard M43.

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>>29658844

Brass cased, copper jacketed ammo that actually has desirable wound characteristics is a pretty great concept. It is corrosive though.

In theory it's a much, much better combat round than M43-pattern 7.62x39. The only thing it offers for range plinking is that, having no steel composition, indoor ranges and shitty outdoor ranges won't have a problem with it like they do with bimetal ammo.

I think the RAS Elite stuff is pretty similar without the corrosive element, costs about the same as 5.56 though.

>>29658896

I think russia is full of worthless asiatic mongrels and has been kiked harder than any other nation on earth. Gotta make sure my post is memetastic though, "cuk".

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>>29658896

Aren't most modern FMJs being pumped out by Wolf/Bear/GT/etc. made somewhat close to M67 spec?

It's not like anything being bought and sold on the market today in large numbers has the M43's steel inserts.

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>>29658836
Count the buzzwords!

>>29658753
Yawn.

I too remember when I was twelve and had a mom who wouldn't let me be hardcore.

>>29658779
Copper oxides. The jackets rub off in the lands of your barrel.

>>29658844
Because it's hotter than fuck. Shake a normal round of 7.62x39. You'll feel the powder bouncing around. Shake a round of the M67 next. That shit is packed in all the way to the bullet.

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>>29658937
Sorry to tell you, but if you support Azov while thinking they're a bunch of Nazis and fun police then that's pretty hilarious. Tried actually talking to Skillt or anyone else in Azov? I have, and they're all pretty nice, patriotic guys who don't give too much of a shit about skin color or creed so long as you're not an outright, extroverted prick, such as yourself.

>>29658961
Honestly, I couldn't tell you. I'm a bit of a newbie when it comes to AK ammo. I'm just going off what I've been told by others who know significantly more about AKs than myself.

>>29658975
Hey man, it's not proper autism from a /pol/ack unless you can taste the doritos particles that rolled off his tongue during the long soliloquy of stupidity he's produced.

>>29659024
My favorite is the "If he's not stormfagging 24/7, he's obviously a genderqueer communist otherkin" routine.

It doesn't even make me mad, it's just like "Really, nigger?"

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>>29658030
Implying that's a bad thing, /k/omrade

>>29658030
Fuck it. Revel in it.

Be the AK guy. Be that guy who can answer weird questions. Forget all that commie propaganda bullshit about Uncle Misha the brilliant worker/soldier who built a brilliant rifle to defend the motherland.

Fuck no, embrace the idiosyncratic nature of the Soviet Design Bureau system that produced this oddball rifle. Be that guy.

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>>29658975
M67 has cordial sticks. No powder. Source? I pulled one apart one day. But it is packed.

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>>29659371
>cordite
Fucking auto correct

>>29659371

Hi anon. Humor me and tell me what company imported your P1.

>>29659371
>>29659382
Man, I hate to be a dick but I am going to require some photographic proof of that claim.

I already have an SKS, so heres my question.
AKM or AK-74?

>>29659458

Do you have an AR? If so I would get the AKM.

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>>29659397
I pulled it apart years ago. I have one sealed crate of M67 that I'm not opening for you. Have a photo of the crate

>>29659495
Fair enough. I'm going to have to investigate this one further.

Is this sound advice /k/?

Why can't I just oil everything?

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>>29659546

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I hope this is a correct place to ask for help with my issue. While all of you faggots are enjoying your pretty Zastava M70s I'm sitting here some 50 km from the fucking factory unable to own that shit. Anyway, I digress. Some good folks started importing some Saiga AKs but since everything gun related is obscure in this country, I can't figure out what exactly is it that they are selling. The pic related is from their website and it's designated Saiga 223, while they have another model designated Saiga 7,62x39. Can some one here who is more versed in Saigas tell me what I'm looking at? Thank you.

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>>29659605
Here's the 7,62 model.

>>29659546
Oil gets into places and stays there, grease sticks on surfaces and remains longer, if that makes sense.

>>29659393
Humor me, why do you want to know? It was made in the French Quarter of western Germany.

>>29659617
Yea that makes sense.

I guess the cool thing about learning to clean an AK is that I literally almost cannot fuck it up no matter what I do

>>29659626

Because I'm a big bad FBI agent who's going to take your guns.

I was surprised to find that mine had been imported by a small company here in Montana that apparently made AK receivers and wanted to know if they had brought in a lot or not.

>>29659671
No, C.A.I. imported it. First pistol I bought years ago. I carried it for a delivery job. Another driver carried a 1911. Jokes were made.

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>>29659532
Found my sks drums loaded with m67. No bullet puller on hand. When I get to it, I'll pull one and post on further ak general threads.

>>29658844

It's corrosive, so it'll last longer than you will.

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Can you install just the lower handguard for the zenit rail system or do I need to replace my gastube as well? Also what are some good lower for the ultimak rail?

>>29659946
Yes you can do it with just the lower hg.

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We have achieved the Sub-MOA AK, courtesy of Jim Fuller.

>>29660063
very nice

>>29660143
Also, this is like the first time I've heard of an AK free-float kit.

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>>29660300

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>mfw AR malfunctions at competition
>mfw AKs all performed flawlessly
>mfw I fell for the AR meme

Shoulda bought the superior AK 47

>>29660421
Don't, your gonna summon a shit thread.

>>29660529
>>29660537
This has me recalling the only time I met a Russian. Dude in Mexico that spoke fluent Spanish and was whiter then any white I've met before.

New thread

>>29660793

>>29660793

>>29660793

>>29657634
>motox
my nigga

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>>29657095
My WASR was my first gun too.

It's a great first rifle. Super simple, easy to work on, and very hard to fuck up.

On a side note, I'm thinking of repainting my furniture. Do you guys have any suggestions for a good pattern/color? (I'm in Michigan).

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>>29657634
That ALG trigger, US Palm grip, and 4-piece brake really snazz that rifle up without making it look to riced out.

Aesthetic as fuck.