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/akg/ AK General

Side arms edition

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>>29587769
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>>29600327
Arsenal SLR-107 testing soon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AozWugeLjmQ
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First with shitty camera
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>>29600338
Juat imagine the shitstorm if that fails before the RAS.
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47 > 74
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>>29600327
Plum Glock is best Glock.
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>>29600327
>2 trunnion rivets instead of 3
>no dimple over the magwell
Wat
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>>29600382

completely erect
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>>29600351
First with Century sh-oh wait....you beat me to it.
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>>29600382
Rit dye?
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How about some rifles not made of potmetal.
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>>29600492
most likely.
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>>29600444
damn strait.
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>>29600595
Well you didn't beat my dub trips at least.
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WPA vs 7N6 (WPA left). The lacquer coating is pretty thin, as expected. No shooting anytime soon unfortunately.
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>>29600351
second
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>>29600660
Yea I wasn't gonna mention that and hope you didn't notice
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>>29600433
Mmmmm, those Bulgarian smoke mags.
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So since I already have an SKS to fill my 7.62 void, would getting a DDI-74 as my next purchase be a decent idea? How mandatory is it to own a x39 AK?
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>>29600827
How are you liking that Valmet?
>>29600922
Do you want one? If yes, then go for it.
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>>29600863

they're pretty qt. i wish they had reinforced feed lips, but the plastic is quite thick so i think they'll hold up well.
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>>29600949
I never had any issues with mine when I had my Norinco. Excuse my shitty old phone pic.
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>>29600990

im mostly just confused why the opaque black ones have steel feed lips but the smokes done. good to know they served you well tho
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>>29600942
as Gucci as an ak will ever get, tight tolerances, next to no after market, and hey you want a factory extra mag??? $300 a pop. still pinnacle of Kalashnikov's design.
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>>29601064
>and hey you want a factory extra mag??? $300 a pop.
Jesus, and I thought finding original 84S mags was painful. Is there no other mags that would work with your Valmet?
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>>29601024
>im mostly just confused why the opaque black ones have steel feed lips but the smokes done.
I....really? What was the line of thought behind that?
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>>29600327
Alright, guys.

We know that the 69 grain RAS 5.45 was utter crap.

Anyone know anything about the 60 grain stuff they seem to have switched to?
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>>29601122
promags work as well as plastic mags can, the steel that's on it is a weiger but whomever did the modifying did a better job than i could ever do. still for a rifle that's as old as i am, it's quite nice.
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>>29600942
The question was more or less about grabbing any 5.45 AK next as opposed to a 7.62 AK. With an SKS in the 7.62x39 slot atm, is an AK in the same caliber still something I should be looking to buy "soon"? I generally like to cover my calibers first before getting multiples of the same role/caliber
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>>29601200
>the steel that's on it is a weiger
>weiger
Mind elaborating?
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How many magazines is enough?

I'm currently sitting on 11 black ((10)) mags, 6 shiny plum Izhmash mags, 5 matte plum Izhmash mags, and one shiny plum Tula mag for a grand total of 23. I had about a half dozed brown ((21))s but I sold them because I think they're ugly with my rifle.

I'll pick up some bakes eventually but IMO bakelite mags are ugly with plum furniture.
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>>29601268
maybe he couldn't spell wager? even then I still don't get it
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>>29601174

RAS used to be Romanian, like you said the 7.62x39, 54r was also junk.

It's Tula cartridge works manufactured now (rebranded Tulammo)

which isn't know to be the best either.
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>>29601298

>How many magazines is enough?

THE NEED NEVER STOPS

at one point i thought pic related was a solid amount.
i've got about 36 mags now, and i'm always on the prowl for more.
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>>29601268
east german 556 ak mags. the valmet factory has stamps on the shims. weiger/wieger does not.
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>>29601418

i wish these fit in my 106
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>>29601267
I've shot my friend's AK 74 he built and I have to say the recoil of 5.45 is quite laughable. Are you willing to spend the extra dosh on 74 mags? Then go balls out and get a 5.45 AK. It's an enjoyable plinking gun, and in the unlikely event Russia decides to start shit, you can just pick up mags and parts.
>>29601298
>How many magazines is enough?
There's never enough magazines.
>a grand total of 23
I say that's a good collection of mags, I'd pick up 7 more just to make an even thirty, or 17 more if you're up for it. Hell, I have 18 mags for my AR and I want more.
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>>29601403
I mean I'm still going to be buying more but I think I'm at the point where only like six mags I currently have are near mint while the rest show use and will continue to be the mags I actually use so from now on the only mags I'll be buying will probably be in near mint/NOS condition just for some nice looking mags.

For a while I was buying nearly every black (10) and Russian plum that popped up on AKfiles in decent shape for less than $30, but I think I've got enough cheap yet still in nice shape mags.
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>>29601442
good luck finding them, 556 ak's are slick tho
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posting some mags until i get bored.
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>>29600338

They aren't SLR's, there WASR shits.
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>>29601418
Neat
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>>29600444
This is a AK general thread
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>>29601507
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>>29601064

Kalashnikov said the Yugo M70 was his favorite AK variant.
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>>29601552
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>>29601572
clearly, he was drunk when he said that. but honestly the m70 is the ultimate utilitarian ak. serbs are a simple yet beautiful people.
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>>29601612
He's Russian, They're always drunk.
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>>29601612

He said that when he came to a museum in America in 2005, along with the famous "The Bulgarians make the best AK's" statement.


Pictures http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=311400
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>>29601646

Thats also where somebody brought a Aluminum waffle mag and he got really pissed off.
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>>29601636
>>29601646
>>29601670
russian howard hughes.

>>29601646
74 in >>29600827
is a bulgy part kit. more $ in it than my ar tbqh senpai. which brings me to my next point: silver bear 5.45 is the best on the american market. can anyone refute this claim????
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>>29601696
>can anyone refute this claim????

Hornady vmax 5.45 but yes, silver bear is exceptionally good ammo
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>>29600922

you know the case length of 7.62 and 5.45 is not x39 right?


But as a answer to you're question, 5.45 is not /K approved (it's ultimately up to you though) DDI has good reviews.
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>>29601734
What the fuck am I reading?
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>>29601696
>silver bear 5.45 is the best on the american market.

>silver bear 5.45 is the best on the american market.


Theres only 3 brands of 5.45 on the market,

Tula, Barnaul, and hornady (made from russian primers and cases.


Brown Bear,silver bear, Wolf, Monarch are all the same thing minus the case coating.
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>>29601670
Why?
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>>29600327

Ak with Glock 17....reliable duo
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>>29601775
not as reliable as my sig p229.
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>>29601734
isn't it closer to 39.5mm?
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>>29601762
only argument i have is zinc vs lacquer. but that isn't a strong one i guess.
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>>29601456
Laughable as in enjoying a lazer gun, or laughably over-rated and not fun?
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>>29601442

I have a 106 with 4 circle 10 mags. Fuck me if I can find Beryl mags anywhere. What else fits these things and where can I get some that wont break the wallet too bad, even if they are only good as range mags?
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>>29601842

meh...glock is good enough for me....and a lot cheaper too. But nontheless, the P229 is a fine gun.
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>>29601955
The former.
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>>29601996
promags. cheap but you get what you pay for.
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>>29601365
My never ending love affair with Silver Bear Continues.
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>>29601996
Promags hardly work in them i had a 106 with a few thrown in and they suck on the reliability part beat is ((10)) or beryl mags i think real russian 5.56 mags work like saiga and vepr and molot. Could always try the removable and non permanent ar mag well design you can still use your mags if you get a good smith to do the work.
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>>29601996
Sorry meant to post a design not riveted to the gun
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operation inherent resolve's official twitter account (i can't believe that's a fucking thing) posted this sexy AK

https://twitter.com/CJTFOIR/status/720506281312808960
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http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=552845560
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>>29601771

The aluminum waffle mags were replaced with Bakelites, the waffles weren't durable enough and they were ordered to be melted down and destroyed, Kalashnikov believed this was true and they all were destroyed but when someone had one he got pissed off.
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Come on guys, buy the shit already.

bakes - 55-60$
waffles - 150$
5$ shipping charge per mag (they are in Russia)

[email protected]
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>>29602553

Your prices are too high, those can be had from US sellers cheaper.
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>>29602553

My guy is $15 each for 7.62 bakes.
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>>29602093
so silver bear is a good non corrosive ammo? i have some 7n6 but im wanting to get some non-corrosive and dont know what to get

no one local has anything to try out and i dont wanna get bulk of some shitty ammo
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Hey /akg/, Califag here. Found a good deal on an unmolested .223 Saiga sporter. While I don't plan on doing a full conversion while I live in this state, I have been thinking about maybe replacing the hammer spring with that JTE offering that Carolina Shooter Supply sells, to help alleviate the trigger situation.

Is it honestly required to drill out the two rear rivets before you can break down the trigger group on the Saigas? And is there a screw set available to be able to fill in the holes those drilled out pins leave behind?
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>>29602574
Hey, i never said that the price is final plus i can make discounts if you buy more than a couple mags.
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>>29602257
Is that an AK with magwell? For what pvrpose?
t. russian
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>>29603160
For the purpose of using ar mags.
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>>29603170
Oh, ok, it was a stupid question. Buying AK-101/102 mags is impossibru?
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>>29603181
Nah, 5.56x45 mags for the ak are pretty expensive, $40 a piece. Ar15 mags are only $8-$15 typically.


Now that I think of it, I really want to see a 5.56 ak like a 101 with smoke lancer mags
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Hey guys, what kind of reinforcement do Polish polymer wz.88 mags have?
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>>29602582
Group buy when?
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>>29600492
Yeah, it's RIT.
Not mine, just though it was well done.
>Scarlett RIT then black to darken it down, if I recall correctly.
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>>29601493

apex has them, not cheap tho

>>29601996

of all the 5.56 AK mags out there, ((10)) mags are going to work best. weiger mags dont fit in my 106 and promags are pretty much garbage.
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>>29600518
what is that mag? it looks like bakelite rattled black and that black is fading
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>>29601298
at least this much, and this is only the beginning
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>>29600827
the world needs more wood 74s
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>>29603648

That's exactly what it is. It's an East German mag from Poland, they were painted black to match the polymer Polish mags. They were $14 several years ago and I picked up 4, stripped 2 and left one painted. I really liked the wear on that magazine so I left it. The ones I stripped the paint off of still have some black splotches.
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is there a group buy website like massdrop for gun related shit?
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>>29603713

pic of them before the strip
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>>29603713
>>29603724
neat, i also like black wearing off a bit by bit revealing bakelite
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What kind of accuracy should i expect out of Norinco 7,62x39?
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5.45x39 magazines should cost less.
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>>29603822
They used to, now they don't.
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>>29600382
>.40 glock
Not buying a 10. Pussy wrist little bitch
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>>29603696
On that note, anyone have an unscalloped '74 lam handguard set or know where to buy one?
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>>29602553
Are those 5.45 molots?
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>>29603944
Yep, all of them.
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>>29600826
If it's anything like my 60gr barnaul sealed ammo or silver bear, it'll shoot so similarly that I wouldn't know the difference between it and 7n6.
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>>29601267
7.62x39 is a fantastic CQB round. House to house, urban/suburban environments, thick cover. 7.62 with select ammo is devestating per intermediate cartridge. It's still in use with Russian special forces for a reason; hard hitting bare knuckle brawler of an intermediate.

Arming a nation defense force, sure smaller faster flatter. If I'm marauding on some preppers jerky stash in a development, gibmedat AK-103
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>>29602574
Link please
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>>29600551
how much did that sticker cost you on the steam market?
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>>29602603
ammoseek.com, my friend.

It's under Barnaul in manufacturers. Get 150 rounds, make a day of it at the range and see if your gun likes it!
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>>29604320
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KLn1zamEWLo
>relevant
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I've been out of the AK market for a while since the Navy had me in Cuckifornia, but I'm looking for a new one.
I want it to be 7.62x39 with a folding stock. A side folder would be preferred but I honestly just figured I'd get a Polish underfolder assuming those are still a good deal.
Don't really care how tacticool it is, rifle is fine either way.
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>>29604695
I should clarify the ideal would be an AK-103 clone and that I do now live in a free state. I'd like to see options at a few price points, but if Arsenals aren't shit these days I'll probably go for that provided there's not some kind of crazy good deal out there.
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>>29604716
Still CRs floating around, I'd hop on an Arsenal before they dry up. Probably won't be seeing new stock until 2017 earliest.
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>>29600338
cringeworthy desu
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>>29604741
What's the word on the IO M214? It looks like a decent raifu on paper, although I don't know how I feel about all that shit on my AK
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>>29604809
>IO anything

Fuck no. Stay away from it.
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>>29604818
This. Find a used Arsenal or look into DDI rifles. I don't know much about DDI but they get good reviews, apparently built on polish kits
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Why USA aks are so shitty crap rifle ?

https://youtu.be/geRY34xvYlI
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>>29604864
Neat, I was hoping for an update.
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Would my SLR look weird if I kept the black folding stock but swapped out the handguards for some Russian plum?
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>>29604894
>Would my SLR look weird
yes, not 10/10 weird, but weird
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>>29604864
Because the overhead tooling required to build one up to snuff would be much too expensive to be marketable. They can crank out WASRs all day on machinary thats already paid at a price point American companies could never compete with.

America could build the best AK ever, at $2500+


>durr AK slavaboo cheap
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>>29604818
>price
>just send it back and they'll make it not shit
I mean I'd be okay with that but yeah I figured IO was still shit.
>>29604826
I was just looking at those on Atlantic.

Also does anyone know about the Khyber Pass series they're selling on Atlantic? They look almost literally perfect (although I'd prefer a 74 style brake it's whatever) but I have no idea who makes them outside of that it says Polish parts kits
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>>29604864
>rifle is mostly shit
>but that barrel is good

Sooo... At least Century can make some good barrels, if they use softer steel for the sight equipment it might hold together as well.
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>>29604894
Yes.
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>>29604894
Do you care if it looks weird?
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>>29604942
>just send it back and they'll make it not shit

They don't have the capacity to make it not shit. IO is a terrible company.
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>>29604916
You realize DDI is coming out with their 100% US made AK with the proper non-cast trunnions and bolts for like $700 right? It's completely possible, it just takes time and money to do a bit of engineering.
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>>29605004
Soon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoYXSgvIw9A
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>>29605048
Getting pumped. Here's to hoping they develop an AK-74 down the line as well, would be nice.
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>>29604990
But the picture that was posted...
alright though no IO, any input on the "khyber pass" AKs they're selling? I want this.
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>>29605095
No, I mean that IO literally is not able to make guns that aren't shit. Sure, they replaced the first one but the replacement is just another AK shaped turd that still has a pretty good chance of exploding.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCFfKqqSHXA
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>>29605136
I get you man. But the AK I am asking about is not an IO to my knowledge.
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>>29605142
No, I realize that. I just wanted you to understand. Khyber pass is generally pretty solid.
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>>29605160
That's the name of the US mfg? I thought they were calling them that because
>AKM
>krink stock
>wood pistol grip
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>>29604945
To add on to this, good American made AK barrels is a massive achievement.

US AK barrels have always been soft shit for the last 10 years afaik.
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>>29605160
Khyber pass isn't a brand you nigger, it's a style of rifle.
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>>29605160
>Khyber pass is generally pretty solid.
Lol what does this even mean
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>>29605167
Sorry, meant to say khyber pass builds are generally pretty solid.
>>29605187
>>29605198
See above. I don't think I've seen a shitty company make one. Judging from the other guys picture, it looks like one of the build for Atlantic which I've heard are pretty great.
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>>29605182
>>29604945
Just because the barrels aren't fucking after a few thousand rounds doesn't mean they're good. Military AK barrels, you know, the proper CHF Chromelined ones, last 15-20k rounds.
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>>29605209
Honestly though how hard would it be for me to just build an AK? I don't know shit about machining and I don't have a lot of fancy tools and shit, but if I were to get a parts kit, a barrel, and one of the Khyber pass sidefolder receivers (and an AKS-74 style stock, of course) what all would it take to put it together?
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I don't care how good the alloys are or the machcining. A US company that the market potential to support copying an aging eastern design is just curious to me.

Think if they spent all that money on utilizing the basic AK design principles and attempting to modernize it. Or a ground up design.

DDI is a meme, of Yeager tier
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>>29605231
You'd need about $200 in jigs, a drill press, a 20 ton press, a steady hand, a spot welder, and a lot of patience.
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>>29605260
What if I got a pre barreled kit?
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>>29605260
A bit less cost and no need for a spot welder if he uses a pre-built 100% receiver.
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>>29605231

ak-builder has khyber kits with barrels already installed

kits aren't hard to build but you need the proper tools
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>>29605266
For a kit with barrel headspaced and pressed and pinned into the front trunnion, you will have to press the barrel pin out, then press the barrel out.

then, assuming the barrel components are pressed and pinned on, you will have to rivet the front trunnion to the receiver while the barrel is still out. Then press the barrel back in, then press the barrel pin back in.

Rear trunnion will need to be riveted too.

You will probably have a hard time drilling the rivet holes in the right spot.
You will need to buy an AK-builder rivet jig for doing it the right way.

It's a bit of an investment.
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>>29605266
Nope. You have to press out the barrel, install the front trunnion in the receiver, and press the barrel back in, and confirm headspace
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>>29605292
and after all of this you will need to rivet the trigger guard too.

completing an 80% receiver is a lot of bullshit too.
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Has anyone tried the new Texas Weapon Systems top cover rail?

Is it sturdy and does it hold a zero?
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There's so many of you being helpful (amazing considering I'd expect day/k/are normally) I don't know who to reply to.
Basically what you are telling me is that I'll have to buy a lot of tools I may use again one day and it's going to be a lot of work and I can't just put shit together like an AR, though, right?
what would it cost to just have a gunsmith do it for me? It's looking like my total for parts would be around $600, so assuming they're not going to dick me around on price that would be a better deal than getting the built one, right?
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>>29605160
This guy
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>>29605332
Also another stupid question, are the tapco 74 style brakes for 7.62x39 rifles any good?
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>>29605338
See
>>29605209

>>29605344
Not really.
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>>29605349
What's my best bet for a 74 style brake?
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>>29605332
Yes. Also a gunsmith (make sure to get one that specifically advertises themselves as building AK's and see some of their work first) will run you $300-$450 depending on how much has to be done, plus another $150-200 for a proper finish.
>>29605344
"no". They're not designed like the actual AK-74 ones. Get an Arsenal made one and an adapter.
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>>29605354
Something like this.

http://www.k-var.com/shop/AK-140US.html
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>>29605329
Yes. Just don't drop it while it's open.
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>>29605368
Seeing as that Khyber build on Atlantic is out of stock and doesn't have a proper finish anyway it would be pretty much the same price, but I'd be getting a rifle exactly as I want it. Right?
of course I can't find any shops that advertise building AKs in Boise, ID kek
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>>29605095
Probably a good gun but the fact that it comes artificially worn is p. wack tee bee aitch.
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>>29605368

>$150-200 for a proper finish

just rattle can it with engine enamel
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>>29605408
"No". They do parkerizing for a reason you faggot.
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>>29605252
Then you run into the special snowflake problem.

Besides, by that measure, the AR15 is also an aging design. Six times as much time has passed from the design of the AK to the AR to now. The AR has been modernized as has the AK.

We stick with these designs because parts wear out or break. Never underestimate the power of parts commonality.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geRY34xvYlI
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>>29605433
I'll have to reserve judgement until I get the opportunity to shoot one. Sadly this is probably the future of the design in America. It will be interesting to see if it has the Eastern philosophy magic that the old school rifles have.
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>>29605368
I just called a shop that my normal gun shop recommended to me for AK building and they quoted me $250 tops for building and reparkerizing.
I'm looking at about $800 tops for my build including side rail and K-Var picatinny mount and Arsenal 74 style brake.
do I do it??
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>>29605776
Wow, that's super cheap. I'd go ahead and get an exact quote, sometimes they add extra shit for things like populating the barrels and stuff. Mind me asking what shop?
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>>29605837
Tiffany's in Nampa, Idaho. He was familiar with the parts kit and receiver I want to use so I don't think he's going to jew me too hard.
now to just find a good optic and buis
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>>29605850
I'd suggest you wait on the optics and stuff until you have your rifle built. Man I'm also honestly a bit jealous that you have a local AK builder, here in Kansas I can't seem to find a single one.
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>>29605884
They're really poorly advertised as AK builders, but according to my usual shop they do a lot of them, and based on how the guy knew more about the parts kit that I was looking at than I did I'm going to assume he's good.
And you're probably right. I'll just have him put on the side rail for now.
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>>29605909
>tfw I've talked to every single gun store and gunsmith in 100 miles and none of them know anyone who does AK builds
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>>29605962
That's dogshit.
Also when I do get in to optics, I'm thinking about a red dot/magnifier setup but also considering something like the ACOG SDO but obviously less expensive.
thoughts? is there even a side rail mounted rail that has the room for an eotech and magnifier?
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I met a really cute girl in Russia but she doesn't speak any English and I want to get closer with her but I don't know Russian and I don't know if she likes guns

I have an AK74 if it matters
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>>29605983
>That's dogshit.
No seriously there are dozens of decent shops and smiths in my area but none of them do AK's.
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>>29605986
Just talk to her normally, if anything she'll feel like she's the one who should be understanding. also, start learning some Russian nigger
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>>29605986
>google translate
If she really likes you she'll learn English ,but Learn Russian too
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>>29601174
>10am on a warm, sunny day
Peak comfy
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AKT trigger got here, feels pretty nice without the extra spring.

>>29605986
Google translate, Skype/FaceTime, hand gestures. Ect
Learn Russian have her start learning English. Good luck


>have ethnic Russian Kazakh gf
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>>29606074
>>29606184
>>29606045
Guess that's what I have to do.

She lives in Reutov
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>>29606201
Kek that's bydlo town, be aware.
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>>29606290
I thought it was a science town or whatever they call them.
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>>29606290
wait are you saying rural or poor because those are both things I avoid and now I'm lost
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>>29606319
It's a suburb of moscow.

I think there's a university there and housing is mostly comm blocs but that's not surprising
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>>29606334
I just know that word from Polish and I know it is either used to refer to what we would call white trash colloquially, but literally it means cow.
thank you for clarifying though
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Fuck buying ammo and mags is addicting I always want more
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>>29606377
I just wish I would have bought more bakelite mags when they were on sale :(
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>>29606184
> ethnic Russian khazak gf
> not superior HIGH TEST American uzbeki
please tell me you are of joking family
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>>29605685
>Eastern philosophy magic

Esplain.
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>>29601064
At first i was like "300$ for mag, this guy is bullshitting" but then i looked at the pic again and noticed that your gun is actually in the puny .223 caliber, so i'm not surprised anymore. Those shits are rare as hell, even here in finland.

As for that, i don't know which mags it will accept, but the basic ak mags work just fine with the 7.62 valmet.
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>>29606480
Me too now I just grab any good surplus mag I can find
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>>29600827
>tfw my friend's dad has a Valmet M76 but he's a hoarder and general piece of shit anyway who will never sell it
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>>29606629
I didn't even have an AK at the time, I just keep in in my box of miscellaneous slavshit with all my nugget and SKS stuff
>tfw lost my keys along with my nugget bolt tool a few years back
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Best deal on plum 5.45 mags. Hit me. NOS
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>>29603820
sell that shit. people pay top dollar for it for some reason
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>>29601365
All I can find in bulk is Tula around where I live.
I haven't had any major problems with it other than it being especially dirty.
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>>29601493
So. Dumb question here.
Is it even possible to convert a 7.62 Ak to a 556?
Wife wants an ak for her birthday but I don't want her dipping into my ammo stash.
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>>29607264
Just buy a 5.56 AK. You'd have to replace everything anyway.
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>>29607264
I'm sure it's possible but you'd have to fuck with your rifle so much it would be a better idea to just get a new one.
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Getting my first mags for the AKM

I plan on getting 4 steel mags to start and maybe a 45 or 75 rounder. Hungarian or Polish?
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>>29607364
Most euro surplus mags are pretty good. I like my Polish mags.
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>>29607364
Polish are g2g. Nice fit. No real wobble even after some wear.
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>>29607351
Is the top one a Tantal carbine? I've never actually seen that before.
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>>29607294
>>29607296
yea thats what i was afraid of

part of my pride just wont let me spend more of a chicks gun than mine....
i guess i have to give her mine and get a new one for myself...
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>>29607471

It's a basic Saiga mocked up to resemble pic related.
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>>29607492
I forgot the krauts did those stocks too.
>tfw there's all sorts of german AKs on the market right now but I don't know if they're good or not
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>>29607485
Don't be that way, she's your significant other.
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For the ultimak forward mount rail, is it better to get one with the vent holes or without the vent holes?

I plan on putting a red dot on top of the mount, and don't know if the exhaust from the vent holes will interfere with the optic in any way.
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so i just installed Bulgarian handguards on my WASR and when i squeeze the lower handguard moves up and flexes the cleaning rod. Did I need to put the little metal spring from the wooden ones on the polymer?
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>>29607351
>>29607492
To get it even closer, you can get the new JMac Customs FS/GB combo and a new muzzle device.

Your inner autist wills it.
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>>29604894
I purchased a M74 sporter a while back which was supposed to come with wood furniture. Came with a black synthetic stock, pistol grip, and upper hand guard, but a plum lower handguard. I'm not mad, but it throws me off sometimes.

>inb4 no cleaning rod
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Hey /akg/,

Recently a thread popped up and I was reading through it and they talked about headspacing issues on Arsenal SLR104's. Apparently there is an issue with any SLR that has a small hole where the dust cover doesn't meet the receiver properly. I took off my charging handle and looked through and could see directly through it.

I've shot my rifle and didnt have any problems before I even found out that is a problem. My question is, will it be a problem down the road?
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>>29605962
It's because their all AR fags

Ran into the same problem.
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>>29608058
Weird, but not godawful. AKs are like that. Sometimes the imperfections enhance the look of the rifle.
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>>29605986
The pirate bay Russian Rosetta Stone

Learning it myself
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>>29600444
How is the magpul stuff holding up? I like the way it looks and am considering it for my first build.
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>>29608058
>no cleaning kit
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>>29608300
Getting a a parallel-ish cheek weld on that stock leaves my cheek bruised, other than that they're fine for the hundred rounds I've put through it so far. I love the folding stock.
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Does anyone know where you can buy newly manufactured 922r triangle stocks?
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Went to the range, AKT = Awesome
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>>29608829
How were the targets?
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>>29609019
I'm afraid they didn't make it
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>>29608303
Shhhhh. It's in the mail.

>>29608260
To be honest, once I figured out, I actually kind of like its, quirkiness? It looks unique while not looking like utter shit.
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>>29607851
yea but i can tell you ill put 4 times as many rounds through mine than hers...
but yea your right.
ill still end up getting to clean both anyways.
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Whats the "cheapest" an ak 74 could be made for?
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>>29608460
can you get a cheek riser for that stock?

i had that same problem for my first shoot on their MOE stock then got a riser and it seemed to go away.
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>>29605850
>Nampa, ID

No shit? Because I drive through Nampa twice a week for work...
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>>29600327
why no dimples on those aks?
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>>29607214
Underpowers af compared to quality x39

BARNAUL
A
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A
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>>29609369
>$300 part kit
>$30 flat or $100 receiver
So ~$400
That assumes you have all the tools, machines, and knowledge to build one already
>asking this question makes me lean toward you not knowing
So
>$300 parts kit
>$100 receiver
>$300 for someone to build it
Realistically ~$700 and at that price, you'd be stupid not to get a DDI
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>>29609369
>>29609848
Oh, and I forgot the barrel, so add another ~$100 to both

And you'd be even more stupid not to get a DDI
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>>29609605

What about Golden Tiger senpai?
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>>29609890
Shit's g2g though lately people have been talking about some problems with it.

Pretty lynch anything but Tula.
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Thank you, based Bakelite anon.
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>>29609342
fair enough.
>>29609145
What were you shooting at anyways?
>>29609532
I think so? I'm pretty sure you can, but I'll need to take a closer look and go from there.
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>>29609890
that's the only stuff I'll touch, yaws like 545 and was noticeably more accurate when I shot it through a scoped rifle
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>>29610168
Some paper and ar500 targets
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What sling should I get for my M70AB2?
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How are these csspec vepr 308 mags?
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>>29600327
General question for anyone knowledgeable:
I live in California, and as such am limited on the guns I can purchase. A few years ago the Arsenal SLR and SGL series were banned by name, which was a huge bummer for me because I really love the look of the AK-103 and had decided on an AK-103 clone for my first AK.

I still want one as my first AK, and the way I see it I have two options: find a Saiga and convert it or buy something like this - the Russian RAK from Atlantic.

I know it's essentially a converted Saiga, but I figure the cost and time needed to order and fit all the parts together will end up equaling the cost of this rifle - especially with the cost of bare Saiga rifles now. It has a 90 degree gas block and the smooth receiver cover as well.

My question is how converted is this rifle and how hard would it be to remove the chrome/nickel finish from the bolt. I HATE the shiny finish on the bolt because it's a Saiga and a bizarrely converted one at that. Does it have a shitty bolt-on handguard retainer or is it done properly?

Sorry for the long-winded post,
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I've got $90 in my paypal account to spend in the AKfiles marketplace

Should I use that to buy more mags ( already have two dozen), use it on a proper AK 100 series bayonet (don't have one for my rifle yet) or save it for use on a proper Combloc optic?
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>>29600327
R8 my go to m8s
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>>29611317
Fantastic and very well worth the money. Csspecs are great people. I used their mags in my .308 VEPR exclusively for around 1500 rounds before I sold the gun.
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might ask my local builder to make me a Galil, but i thought i would ask here if an AK and a Galil are the same essentially.
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>>29611933
kind of a weird question but can you list the specs of your vepr as well as how much you sold it for and when? i ask bc i have a 20" 308 vepr i want to get rid of and im im just curious about the market.

also, csspec mags are awesome.
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I'm thinking about getting an AMD65. Do or don't?
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>>29611980
It was an earlier import 20" with the typical U shaped wood single piece hand guard and thumb hole stock without a threaded muzzle. I paid around $500 for it and sold it for $800 after the Russian sanctions and after it was announced that only KC imports were banned and VEPRs were still able to come in.

When the sanctions were announced I planned on just sitting on it and watch its value rise but when news came that MOLOT could still import VEPRs I shot the shit out of it before selling it

It was a great rifle but i sold it because I already had an FAL that i enjoyed more and that easier to find and cheaper parts and mags.
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>>29612083
thanks. i just found it pretty boring, which is why i dont shoot it anymore. it doesnt do anything particularly well so its just taking up space and money in my safe.
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>>29611919
Interesting choice of sidearm, which AK did you get?
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>>29612119
USP/AK master race.
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>>29612188
Got yourself a Beryl? How are you liking it?

On another note, holding an AK fills me with the desire of revolution. Anybody else feel that or is it just me? The AR doesn't feel quite the same.
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>>29612362
Jesus Christ you're a faggot
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>>29606686
he's gonna die someday. and funerals aint cheap.
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>>29612362
I love it. I'm really happy with it, especially at the price I got it for.
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>>29607264
buy a good new one. converting a 762 to 556 would be a shit show and even when it's all said and done it most likely will malfunction.
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>>29605962
gewehr werks built my bulgy 74 kit on a nodak.
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>>29612444
well now, you're going to have to say how much you got it for.
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>>29612506
About $780 including shipping and transfer.
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>>29612119
USP Is my edc believe it or not, AK is slr 107
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>>29612614
>USP Is my edc

I continue to like you.
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>>29612552
Nice, how'd you manage that deal?
>>29612614
Is it the .45 version?
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>>29612638
Yours too brother? Just spent 100 for the ambi safety, fuck being left handed
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>>29612648
I found it on GunsAmerica for $750 NIB and picked it up immediately. I don't think they knew what they had.
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>>29612648
Yes. Cleanest .45 I've ever shot
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>>29612690
Nice, the better deal that I came across was getting a Norinco BWK-92 for $189 (originally $399) after trading my Mauser at Cabelas. Which is essentially the neutered Type 84S.
>>29612700
My friend recently acquired himself a USP 45, we were both surprised at how light the recoil was for being a polymer gun.
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Are AK74 and AKM bolt carriers interchangeable?
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>>29612942
no
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>>29613003
ok
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hey guys, what's the best forward optic mount for an Arsenal Sam7r? Not really sure how to verify fitment
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>>29600327
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cheeki
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>>29612411
He's trying to fit in by making bullshit conversation. He even bought a ras47, that's how desperate he is for attention
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>>29610675

A Yugo sling.
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found something cool in my books
Polish milled receiver DMR
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>>29608267
Make sure you use something else besides rosetta stone. It's alright for what it is, but using one source alone for your language education is going to leave you with some gaps.
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>>29615679
oh yea but its a great way to start.
i mean ideally the only way to learn a language is to go there and speak it.
get laughed at by a few slavs
and then learn from your mistakes and obvious American accent.
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>>29615789
This, at least they appreciate you trying and still laugh
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>>29615789
Everyone who has wanted to learn a language has gone the Rosetta Stone pirate bay route. Its not going to be easy, its going to take a few years, and it is going to require a HUGE amount of effort and dedication on your part. Just like all of us weaboos that tried to learn Japanese, rosetta stone isnt the magical solution.
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>>29609565
Where do you live, /k/omrade? East Boise here.
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>>29611899
From my understanding they're done properly.
I know you want a 103 clone, but why not just get one of the East German ones they're selling?
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>>29615051
OBZOR 4 LYFE
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>>29612425
true story
he's pretty fat, should I start leaving McDonald's gift cards in his mailbox?
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>>29611899
Move faggot.
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Has anyone tried the Trijicon MRO with a low profile mount on an ultimak gas tube rail?

What's the MRO like on an AK?
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Well I just over paid for mags
But I really wanted a nice plum and a 45rnd circle 10
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new furniture set is here. Cant wait to install the dong
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>>29617392
It's okay.

I want to get one or two of the circle 10 waffle-pattern magazines. They're aesthetic is just so pleasing.

I'm pissed Arsenal gives you a 5 round polymer magazine with the purchase of their guns instead of a 30 rd waffle.
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>>29617450
I figured I'd snag them while thier still avlailible the ak 74 market is extremely volatile right now
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>>29617092
An AKM will come later, friendo.

Also furthering the bizarre nature of this conversion - it seems as if they've opted to configure the threading in standard AKM fashion. So I'm wondering if the AK-74M style FSB/thread combo is going to look right when it slips over the now threaded barrel.
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>>29617482
But why not get one of the E. German ones for $300 cheaper, drop $110 on the adapter/brake, and another $100 or so for a wire stock?
like I get it's not a AKS-74 stock or an AK-74M stock but it's a folder
I feel like the E. German ones are going to be higher quality, and if you want to do work to them you can always sell the furniture as a set
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>>29617469
>I figured I'd snag them while thier still avlailible the ak 74 market is extremely volatile right now

Tell me about it. When I bought another AK a couple of months ago, part of me wanted to get an SLR-104 but I figured it wasn't a good idea. I settled for a 107 instead.

If you have a rifle in 7.62 and need magazines, the Polish ones on AIM Surplus are excellent. I got a box of 20 of them in the mail a few days ago and they fit as tight as you'd want a magazine to be. The finish is slick, too.
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>>29617392
Damn nigga I just bought five unissued/NOS Izzy plums for $30 a piece

Why you paying $50 for a single plum mag?
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>>29617528
I noticed good steel 7.62x39 mags are everywhere for like 10-15$ ,but 74 mags are 40$+ and I only no one place in town that has surplus mags
>az btw
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>>29617544
Where and I wanted the circle (10) also
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>>29617567
Connections :^)

and yeah 45 round 5.45 mags in general are expensive I want some but for the price of one I can get two normal 30 round mags
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>>29617595
I figured lol lucky you tho this will bring my surplus mag numbers to 5 (10) 2(21) 1 plum and 1 45rn (10)
>pic related so far
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>>29617595
I'm really glad to hear that 5.45 mags and ammo are still kind of a bitch to find, I had that one Canadian tripshit that inexplicably has guns trying to make me feel like a retard for telling him that shit isn't as common or cheap as it once was.
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>>29610675
Do you care about it being an accurate Yugo rifle? Get a Yugo sling.

Chinese slings like pic related (surplus, not NCStar knockoffs) are my personal favorite AK sling though.
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>>29611899
>My question is how converted is this rifle and how hard would it be to remove the chrome/nickel finish from the bolt. I HATE the shiny finish on the bolt because it's a Saiga and a bizarrely converted one at that.

Usually an AK with a bolt like that has just been left in the white. As in, there's no finish on it.
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>>29606508
ugh it isn't fair
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>>29606508
MUH DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIK
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Are the Kobra RDS any good?
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>>29617437
what kind of AK you putting it on?

my wasr needed some..persuading before it accepted the dong.
The factory stock needed to be smacked several times in different directions before it came loose.
I also managed to break an upper hand guard in the process as well.
AK's are all about a tough love.
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Am I the only one that single points my sling?
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>>29618975
No, they're superior in my opinion.
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>>29619033
>RAS
>Fagpul
>Single Point

Are you TRYING to be a retard? I know you're starved for attention but come on.
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>>29619033
Wow you're a faggot.
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>>29619056
>>29619110
:')
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>>29618975
I plan to get a folder and single point it soon.
honestly I don't understand why there's so many tacticool AKs on here and nobody does that
>>29619110
>has opinion
>is faggot
Look man I haven't been on /k/ a bunch lately so I might be defending a huge cocksucker but single point slings are comfortable and easy to get to, there's a reason so many people in the military disregard their COs and armorers and use them anyway.
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>>29619207
If you get a folder you can use a regular sling like a single point and just attach both ends to the rear sling loop. It's crude but effective.
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>>29619207
It has nothing to do with his opinion, rather that he bought a piece of shit rifle with shit furniture with a retarded fucking sling just for attention..
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>>29619275
>Getting negative attention from anonymous people on the internet was worth at least $500 to him
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>>29619247
I can dig it. I have mine from my M4 still though, you can kind of see it in pic related (I'm bottom right)
>>29619275
I don't have a crush on him so I don't know the exact make of his rifle, but I've only heard good things about the Magpul shit.
mind you I'm a definite keep your shit off my AK kind of guy but it seems like you're just being a butthurt nogunz /k/iddo
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>>29618953
a WASR of course. it currently has no furniture on it. I bought it used and it came with all sorts of crapco shit which was easy to take off. I have the full stock set but I gotta get a new upper handguard because it was cracked.
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>>29619296
>defending a tripfag this hard

Wew so which one are you? Dr8co posting fake pictures of totally-him again?
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the greatest part of /akg/ is that we only have a few tripfags, and even those are good because they get access to rare shit or sell stuff.

You can post the same rifle without having a tripcode. We ID posters by their content, not by their name. Go back to ARG if you wanna be a special little snowflake. We will have none of that shit here.
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>>29619324
I was just posting my rig and the only picture of my sling I have, sorry if that offended your autism.
And you are the one who knows his exact make of rifle and is coming in here just to shitpost on a tripfag. If you don't like trips just hide their fucking names or hide them altogether instead of acting like a 13 year old with a crush.
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>>29619207
>>29619290
It was a cheap investment that I'm willing to take the risk on knowing what it is. If they don't like that I made a decision for that reason then fine, they can piss, moan and shitpost about it all they want.
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>>29619355
put your trip back on, stop shitposting here, and go back to whatever hole you came from
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>>29619359
What kind of AK do you have that seems to be causing him so much butthurt?
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>>29619363
A $486 RAS.
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>>29619361
You're the only one shitposting here, m8
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>>29619399
I'm unfamiliar with them.
Are they like the new WASR where everyone shits on them for no reason because they had problems when they first came out?
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Only two guns I own
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>>29619355
>he's so new he can't even recognize a piece of shit RAS47
Kill yourself.
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>>29619433
Is your AK an Arsenal?
>>29619437
I've been around since 2009 or some shit, m8
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>>29619443
Or shit that's not my old tripcode. It's been a while. I've just been in California thanks to the Navy for a few years and haven't been keeping up with the AK market.
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>>29619415
They're an all American made AK that Century's pumping out. AK Operator's Union 47-74 is doing a 5K test on it of which various parts i.e. that are showing wear that can cause issues.
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>>29619415
They've been falling apart at around 2,500-3,000 round mark. Plus, it's Century. A name synonymous with cutting corners.

But still, it's a - $500 gun. It'll shit the bed in a couple of years and you can just buy a new one.
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>>29619443
>I've been around since 2009 or some shit, m8
Then you're simply mentally deficient.
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>>29619463
Did they change the fucking trip system on /k/ or has it just been so long that I no longer remember?
>>29619470
How many rounds do you have through yours?
>>29619473
You have the right mentality, although personally that isn't the kind of thing I'd ever buy.
>>29619478
See: >>29619463
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>>29619463
Thank you for your service
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>>29619486
>hurr I was in the .mil so this excuses me making uneducated opinions on stuff
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>>29619486
Just a hundred, I only just got it last week. I plan on getting a case and go to town with it.
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>>29619290
Have you SEEN people's Dragon Dildo collections?
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>>29619443

Yes it is its a slr-107
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>>29619486
So it ended up a retarded tripfag was defending another. Surprise!
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>>29619486
Well yeah, buy once cry once and all that, but if all you can afford is a $500 rifle you've got to make a few concessions here or there. And a lot of people were intrigued by the idea of a 100% US made AK.
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>>29619486
There it is. If any of you remember nugget girl, that's my nugget and my mom's back yard.
also seriously how nobody caught on that I was 16 when I was posting here is beyond me, my WASR was my 18th birthday present to myself
>>29619487
I had a desk job and didn't do shit m8, but thanks for your support.
>>29619499
>I was in a state where I couldn't really have an AK so I didn't bother keeping up with what was coming out until I EASed and moved back to based Idaho
>>29619500
>go to town with an AK
maybe watch your phrasing buddy
>>29619521
I wish there were good 103 or 109 clones that weren't so expensive
>>29619522
>post with trip I haven't used in years to verify oldfag status
>instantly am a faggot trip according to a nogunz 16 year old
never change, /k/
>>29619537
No yeah it definitely has its market and it'll definitely sell well, and I'm sure eventually after people have replaced half the gun it'll be decent
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>>29619554
>verify oldfag status


Wow congrats you've been here a whole 2 years, that's a long time!

Can you dumb tripniggers go back to /arg/
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New thread

>>29619567

>>29619567

>>29619567
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>>29619566
>doesn't realize that picture is over 4 years old
>calls me new
I'm sorry you don't own any guns to kill yourself with. Would you like one of mine? I've got a Windicator I'll sell for cheap.
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>>29619554
>I was in a state where I couldn't really have an AK so I didn't bother keeping up with what was coming out until I EASed and moved back to based Idaho
Actually you can own an AK in California, just a neutered one. In fact there is a specific California legal model of the RAS47. Yet again you demonstrate how new you are. Also
>I had a desk job and didn't do shit m8, but thanks for your support.
You really are new huh? Here's a hint: it's a dank meme
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>>29619554
>maybe watch your phrasing buddy
Oh please, any reasonable human bean with half a brain should know what that meant.
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>>29619592
Why the fuck would I want to buy a neutered AK when I planned on moving back to a free state the second I got out?
Also why are you still shitposting and not posting your guns?
Also sorry for trying to act like an adult and respond in a polite way, I forget this is 4chan. Let me try to break this down barney style for you:
You are an autistic faggot who does not own a single firearm and has likely never fired one, and as such I'm done replying to you until you post something indicating your hasgunz status.
>>29619593
I joke, my friend. Now if you said you wanted to go to the theatre, that would be a different thing.
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What is /k/'s opinion on WASR-10?
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>>29619671
It works, but you'll inevitably drop money on an arsenal or similar if you take your aks seriously.
IMO, I'd skip cheaper rifles and just get what I really want, and am much happier for doing so.
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>>29619671
WASR-10/63 is a great rifle. I had no issues with accuracy or anything else with mine.
WASR-10s are dubious though. You just have to check the receiver.
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>>29615301
>>29618485

I can't seem to find yugo slings anywhere on the internet for sale.

The canvas slings look nice but seem kind of short. Pic related.
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