Blade styles

>>29479680
None of those things are true, it depends entirely on the individual blade shape

>>29479680
yeah basically nothing you just said was true
go learn a little more and try again

>>29479703
>>29479746
So you're telling me a spear point will be as good as a drop point for utility?

Retards.

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>>29479703
>>29479746
>let me just say you're wrong and then not add anything to support claims

why does everyone hate on tanto blades?

>>29479680
Clip : Cuttin' a bitch
Tanto : Cuttin' a bitch
Trailing : Cuttin' a bitch
Straight : Cuttin' a bitch
Wharncliffe : Cuttin' a bitch
Pen : Cuttin' a bitch
Drop : Cuttin' a bitch
Spear : Cuttin' a bitch
Hawkbill : Cuttin' a bitch
Sheepsfoot : Cuttin' a bitch
Needle : Cuttin' a bitch
Spey: Cuttin' a bitch

>>29479784
M E M E S
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Nice shitposting faggots.

>>29479759
Stop posting and go do your homework kid

>>29479784
No belly. No roll cuts. Not good for general EDC, only self defense.

>>29479895
>still not supporting claims
>still being a retard
I already finished my home work, just ask your mom, kid.

I like me some drop points with either full flat or Scandi grinds.

https://www.theknifeconnection.net/blade-types/

>>29479759
So my drop point is
Shitty for atabbing people?

>>29480399
Yes.

Drop points were designed for utility and survival usefulness, not for self defense.

All knives, if sharp enough, can stab people but some are better than others

>>29480476
>implying it actually matters... like at all.
I'm sorry you live in a world where you believe that 'attack points' for the style of a blade matters to Jamal as he's stabbing you in the gut. Fuck off, kid.

>>29481740
Sure it does. You may be swinging your drop point, hoping to hack and chop but that doesn't do shit while he's running at you head-on stabbing. Slashing is useless for self-defense. You need stabbing power. A quick stab from a tanto or spear point and the dude is on his knees. You'll easily slice through any flesh and organs. Try doing that with a drop point.

I've tested this on game. It's not that easy to make a good puncture with a drop point unless the tip is freshly sharpened, even then it won't do as much damage.

>>29481931
>You'll easily slice through any flesh and organs
Don't forget that it'll also easily slice through CLOTHING. You think a drop point is going to puncture a jacket/sweater/coat and shirt easily plus get into some vital organs?

>>29479960
>only self defense
They're not great for self defense either senpai.

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>>29479680

You forgot the tri-edge you plebe. This is one wicked knife.

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>>29481958
>Sharpened metal vs cloth and leather
>fabric will win
Are you actually this stupid?

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>>29482043

>not posting the Ferrari of knives

It's like you people are poor.

>>29482052

I threatin my knives with pillow fights whenever they act up. I don't have many problems out of them.

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>>29482052
>leather
>a fabric
>calling other people stupid
hahahhahahha what a fucking retard

>>29482168
>implying that people still go around in full real leather.
A very thin layer of authentic stuff maybe, but underneath is all fabric. All the homeboys wear plastic atrocities that look like shiny yard bags. And the only people who would actually wear real leather are old fat bastards riding around on Harleys trying to escape a midlife crisis. But even then, it wouldn't stop anything but a butterknife with decent force. I'm tired of explaining shit to you in your Retard Riley pathetic excuse for a thread. So long.

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>>29482043
Plus that knobby sheath!

Ami right?

>>29482371
Jesus Christ mate, leather is not fucking gold or silver. Go learn a thing or two about sheathes before shitposting, please.

>>29483223
>Disregarding an effective weapon because of your own homoerotic thoughts

>>29482371
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/leather-jacket-saved-my-life-says-uncle-stabbed-repeatedly-at-girl-s-14th-birthday-a3176786.html

You were saying?

>>29482371
That's some weapons-grade stupid right there

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>>29479847
I liked this.

>>29481931
>>>29481740
>It's not that easy to make a good puncture with a drop point unless the tip is freshly sharpened, even then it won't do as much damage.

What you're saying is that you can't sharpen worth a damn, then? Kek

The main concern with a properly sharpened drop point would be losing the tip, but on the first stab, a sharp drop point will be utterly devastating.

>>29483986
What's your point?

I was saying a FRESHLY sharpened drop point. You should know that as you sharpen more and more, the tip will naturally wear out and become a lot weaker.

By freshly sharpened, I meant its first couple of sharpenings. Any knife brand new would be devastating but certain knives are better for certain tasks.

>>29479680
Your drop point is a terrible representation. It's a recurved drop. There is almost no difference in a drop point and a spear point.

>>29482094
you realize this thread is about blade types and not brands right?

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>>29484840
This
>one of these is a drop point, the other is a spear point, just look at how differently they would perform, it's amazing how dissimilar they are.

>>29483375
And people survive full sized pistol rounds to the head, your point?

>>29484206
I'm beginning to think the problem is your soft, weak hands

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>>29479680
What do you consider utility? Because I would have put a tanto as a utility blade. The secondary point in the Americanized tanto is amazing at cutting tape to open boxes, any of the above mentioned knives are utility knoves to be quite honest. Sure, having a spear point knife that's sharpened on both sides might be a bit more dangerous when using. But that's solely because it has way more cutting surface.

This whole thread is a troll thread made by an edgy dumbass 12yo who thinks he knows something about knives when realistically the sharpest knife he's touched is mommys chef knife. And that was only after he had washed it like mommy told him to for the 17th time this weekend. Grow up fag.

>>29484206
So you're saying that, when you sharpen the point of a knife, it gets WEAKER when it gets thicker? Because when you sharpen a knife, you remove metal. When you remove metal you get closer to the spine, or the thickest part of the knife. So you're saying that thicker equals weaker.

Also, unless you pay at least $80 for a knife, the factory edge is going to suck ass. Generally speaking.

>>29485744
You clearly did not read my post properly. I was talking in relation to the TIP of a drop point.

Anyone out there who has owned and sharpened a drop point blade for a long time will tell you that the TIP will get weaker and you will lose it after sharpening it a couple times.

>>29485581
Would you rather be wearing a leather jacket or nothing when you get stabbed?

>>29485660
You got me.

>>29485678
>tanto
>utility
KEK. Try skinning with it and then cry as you wish you had a drop point or clip point.

>>29479680
tanto pokey pokey staby staby, have fun sharpening. Actually isn't bad at cutting tasks thought hunting/skinning suffers
clip point: old school tanto
spear point: bushcraft and stabbing, somewhat difficult hunter/skinner
Drop point: utility hunting/skinning
Wharnie: utility/carving
Straightback because scandinavians couldn't be assed to make a drop point

Hell, the Ray Mears knife is a spearpoint/drop point hybrid and that is one of the most popular utility designs to come out in the past 50 years.

Most blade designs will stab well if needed and a fighting knife primarily comes down to length and balance. If I could only have one knife, I certainly wouldn't make it a fucking gerber mk2. It'd be a HFG Drop point or scandi.

>>29485828
Like I said, it all depends on what is considered utility. In an urban environment it'll do just as well as the other shapes.

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>>29485787
Here's my personal victorinox hunter, it has a drop point. I got it in like 07. See how it still has a point/tip. You are retarded and don't know how to sharpen OR you're using a knife for something it shouldn't be used for.

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>>29486051
Close up.

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>>29486051
>>29486060
thanks for proving my point, thats the shittiest tipi've ever seen, it's not even a tip, it's completely dulled out. here's a real tip and guess what, it's brand new.

dont even try to argue that a drop point can keep its tip. it's common knowledge

>>29486357
So let me get this straight, because it's not pointy it's not sharp?

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>>29486357
Uh you do realize you posted a modified drop point right? With the false swedge. That's why your picture has a fine point on it. True drop points don't have very fine points. Even this stock image of an esee izula. There's not a super fine point on it either.

whats the purpose of a wharncliffe blade? what is it good for? how is it better than a clip point for any given task?

>>29486765
I carry a crkt minimalist or spew as edc, they've done everything I've needed them to. I think flat edges do better when it comes down to true edc tasks such as opening mail, cutting boxes, cutting food etc.

>>29486749
Whether it has a swedge or not, it is definitely still a drop point.

Now compare that tip to the tip of the other anon, it looks MUCH sharper.

I have plenty of friends IRL who are experienced with knives and sharpening, among many other forums I browse that say drop points do not keep their tip. This isn't even an argument.

>>29486795
thanks i guess that makes sense, i wasnt bashing it just genuinely wanting to know its purpose. i assume it excels in some specialty tasks just wondering what those are

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>>29486795
I left out why. The reason why in my opinion is the point of the blade isn't sticking way up in the air. So you don't have to angle your wrist/arm way the fuck in the air to get to the point of a clip/drop/whatever shape you're using.

>>29486765
>>29486813
Very sharp tip, lots of blade for little weight, can be used for precise cutting, overall aesthetic

>>29486830
is it a better chopper than cutter when compared to a clip point?

>>29486811
Negative dip shit. It's POINTIER. Pointy=/=sharp. You can't even use the correct terminology. Things can be pointy and not sharp.

>>29486854
I would say no. It's better suited to cutting and slicing, because the tip is very fragile on that design

>>29486885
i see, im reading more about it on bladeforums right now. lot of people seem to agree its one of the best designs for utility/edc all around duty knifework. i might have to get one, also helps i love the look, they are aesthetic as fuck

>>29486906
The CRKT in OP's pic is a great interpretation of it. It's on my wish list

>>29486859
Jesus Christ, you're on another level of stupidity.

I said the tip looks much sharper which is a valid statement. When did I ever say POINTY? Imbecile. You have no argument so you begin to manifest lies to make yourself feel better about being "right" when you're clearly wrong.

>>29487164
No the tip doesn't look sharper. It looks pointier. Sharp refers to the cutting edge. Pointy refers to the acute angle of which the knife blade narrows to a point.

>>29487263
You can have a sharp tip by sharpening the edge and stopping right before the apex of the tip, therefore, having a sharp tip. However...a drop point does NOT have a typical "tip" like a tanto which was my original argument, that the drop point will lose what little tip it has very easily and permanently over time. That's just how it is designed.

The tip is the general area at the end of an edge followed by an abrupt angle change where the metal continues.

This isn't difficult...

>>29487367
And if you sharpen it right you won't lose the tip. So once again. Y'all just suck at sharpening.

>>29487367
Wtf are you even talking about? an FFG drop point with a distal taper will have a super narrow as you would call it, sharp tip or as normal people would call it a pointy tip. A thick saber ground drop point will probably not be particularly pointy, neither of these things refers to how sharp the tip is, nor do they reflect on a knifes ability to retain a sharp point - that's up to the user.

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>>29487367

You are talking complete ignorant nonsense.

Somebody half decent at sharpening can maintain the blade geometry of the tip of a drop point knife indefinitely by working the edge bevels, and eventually, the primary grind on the stones.

But, please, do try and tell me how dull the tip of a distal tapered and 20 deg. inclusive tip on my Rohde 52100 Shark-Tail necker is.

I've re-profiled the edge geometry when i got it and have sharpened it at least 20 times since.

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But do you know of the Mexican sacatripe? Used for gutting sheep, and other warm blooded animals

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>>29479680
For when you want to go full on 1950's Stone Greaser!

Concealable, the switchblade version is highly illegal in certain states and restricted in others (though legal folding versions do exist), good for stabbing people, getting into rumbles, yelling "Tunnel Snakes Rule!" at the top of your lungs, and little else.

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>>29488069
(muffled hardcore feelings in the distance)

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Pinoys are the strongest race in the world and so are their knives

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>>29488069
>>29488201
HEREWEGOHEREWEGOHEREWEGOAGAIN

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hooked blades like karambits make great utility knives, but finding one that isnt pure mallninja trash is very hard.

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>>29488069
>Memories of post mentioning sacatripe years ago

This thread is literally the reason I don't listen to /k/ on knives. Makes me question how well you guys know other stuff as well.

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How would this blade work for bushcrafting and utility?

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I carry this and a 21 inch folding baton around daily.

>>29494042
great for killing people. pretty much shit all for anything else.

>>29494124

America, you have a problem.

>>29494042
this>>>29494124

Purpose built for stabbing krauts, and damn good at that, but I wouldn't use it to clear brush or as a pry bar.

>>29494666
meant to link >>29494136