Nazi victory?

>>29440161
>after Dec. 5th, 1941?
No.

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They would have definately had a better chance if they had the stg44 fielded much earlier.
>yfw Normandy landings with the Germans using stgs

^ No shit bro. That's what he's asking.

They certainly could have. Their major mistake was destroying a huge portion of their army for a symbolic victory in a city instead of essential oil fields in Russia.

>>29440180
>>29440186

There's a reason I assumed no intervention by the U.S. Our industrial might was far too strong for them to endure given the conditions that occurred.

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>>29440161
OUT!

>>29440395
that worm looks like poop

>>29440161
>serious steel shortage
>create entirely stamped steel weapon
>gunpowder shortage
>create fastest firing machinegun known at the time
>fuel shortage
>develop jet engine

No, after a certain point they were bound to lose regardless of technology

>>29440395
>>29440429

The worm does look like poop. And not bait, I'm actually curious to see how the Second Great War would have looked with no America in the picture.

>>29440445
Don't forget how their scientists laughed off the idea of atomic weapons as fringe science.

>>29440161
No. Hitler was an amateur.
>Amateurs talk about tactics, but professionals study logistics."
- Gen. Robert H. Barrow, USMC (Commandant of the Marine Corps) noted in 1980

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>>29440186
I'm sorry, anon, but no single infantry weapon is going to change the tides of a war unless it is dramatically more advanced. STG wasn't and even if it was, german infantry tactics were based around bolt action rifles and machine guns.

>>29440507
Yeah, I think that better logistics would have made the Nazis a far more capable force.

If by US didn't intervene you mean no lend-lease in addtion to no US combat presence, then yes, Germany would have won.

>>29440161
>No strategic bombing of German manufacturing
>No aid to allied powers
They would've stood a much better chance, that's for sure. Wouldn't be so worried about acquiring caucasian oil with control of Africa.

The Nazis DID win the war in Europe.

Only the UK was left standing. They held alone for 11 months and 28 days before Russia was invaded and lend-lease began.

>>29440449
The Axis powers get their shit pushed in by the Soviets and Brits. No. Matter. What.

I think this belongs on /pol/

Anyways, I think if the United States didn't step in the Nazis wouldve had a much easier time taking Europe.

>>29440632
I wanted an actual discussion on tactics, strategy, etc; not shitting on Jews and Blacks

>>29440212
That date has nothing to do with America entering the war (which was 5 or 6 days later, per Hitler's declaration of war), and everything to do with the Soviet counter stroke that pushed German positions back from Moscow.

Not capturing Moscow in 1941 sealed Germany's eventual defeat.