EU deactivated guns

Time to buy some for cheap and somehow get a hold of a grinder. At least they're not letting the geriatrics torch them like they did with all their Brens.

>>29357967
what a hunk of shit

why do de-act guns scare them so much?
afraid someone will take a worthwhile part off of them legally?

>>29357988
is there anything not fucked beyond redemption on it?

furniture? gas tube?

that carrier is split in half dude

>>29357967
This will surely make all of you safer...

I don't honestly know why your politicians and fellow citizens are so bent on self destruction.

>>29358001
Gaurnteed replies

>>29358032
>just accept the foreigners europe they are just like you
>they just sometimes kill you because they hate your culture and wish to destroy you along with it
>they are peaceful you must help them :^)
>get rid of those dangerous deactivated guns thats the real danger

So Zib Militaria have finally confimed that they will be using the fully welded spec.

http://www.zib-militaria.de/en_GB

Currently the guns all fully field strip (Only barrels and firing pins are destroyed) but after the 7th they'll all be useless lumps of dogshit with no moving parts.


This will effect US parts kits market as all the surplus bits will be fully destroyed.

I've been looking all week to determine if this shithole Belgistan is still stalvagable. Exactly where the fuck do you find the outcome of the proposed ban ?

>>29358081
What weapons that they are selling would still be able to be saved ?

>>29357989
>why do de-act guns scare them so much?
They think you can go into places with a de-ac gun and do anything you want because OMG IT'S UH GUN11111!!!

This is why America got it right.
>try to rob somewhere with a deactivated gun
>dudes shoot at you
>can't shoot back because you're a retard with a deactivated gun

Will this affect parts kits getting demilled and exported, or just domestic deactivated stuff?

>>29358081
This probably means more parts kits will enter America in truth.

Why send them to Europe to be hacksawed and sold for $10/piece when they could be sold to Americans for $300/piece and built back into rifles again.

>>29358200
This

From what I'm hearing its opening up more lots to be sold as parts kit in the US, (from importers)


I've actually noticed in the last few months a lot of new kits have been coming in

>>29359356
well if that is the case I wouldn't say it's "win-win" Euros are sort of getting cucked (maybe a little) but we're definitely getting something out of it

>>29359356
Well fuck now I'm excited

>>29358200
receivers and barrels from FA weapons still need to be torch cut due to that ATF decision though.

>>29359356
Europe's loss is our gain. Nothing new, I suppose.

I have to wonder if there will ever be FAMAS parts kits. I only want one so I can complete my 5.56 bullpup collection.

>>29358001
>I don't honestly know why your politicians and fellow citizens are so bent on self destruction.
The citizens are not, it is the politicians that somehow have a "who is the biggest SJW in the cuck-union" contest. That is also why right-wing parties are on the rise again - the AfD in Germany scored higher than some of the current parties of the federal government.

The new law is probably getting canned. Lots of the eastern euro countries rely too much on their conscripts to limit their population to bong-style hunting gear.

>>29358081
>>29358120
>>29358200

Won't effect parts kits. 99.9% of parts kits were never euro deactivated weapons. Almost all parts kits are demilled either at a registered storage depot in whatever foreign country (mostly serbia and bulgaria in the last 5 years) or more commonly they are imported in tact and demilled in a customs bonded warehouse before being cleared for release. The only euro deactivated kits that are imported are one offs by collectors. Hence why you don't see pins in barrels and cut bolt faces on parts kits.

>>29363768
France is on the precipice of switching so I would say we'll get a few F1's withing the next 6 years. I think the Marine/Navy G2's will stay in service for some time. They should go VHS2 but they'll prolly go germanshit.

F1's are old and worn with a non nato twist rate and the ammo is now manufactured in China.

>>29357967
What's the fucking point of this? If smiths can weld together a Bren gun reciever cut in three into a functioning semi auto what's going to stop some enterprising haj from taking a dremel or a torch to a poorly fully welded gun to cannibalize parts off it or even restore it with a new barrel?

>>29357967
Terrorists were using them in all the recent attacks because gun control kept the working ones out of their hands anon. Just another step towards security

>>29364731
were any of the weapons used in the attacks rewats? or were they just part of the vast surplus in eastern europe?

>>29364737
>were any of the weapons used in the attacks rewats?
No.
>or were they just part of the vast surplus in eastern europe?
Yes.

>>29364722
>What's the fucking point of this?
To make Europeans more dependent on government. That's the clear underlying motivation of gun control measures, irregardless of what officials claim.

We, Americans, do not sacrifice our ideals and freedoms for our lives. We sacrifice our lives for our ideals and freedoms.

tl;dr cuck less yuropoors.

>>29365075
couldn't have said it better myself

>>29357967

Sweden has openly opposed the semi auto ban, and we are probably a more cucked than anyone else. (A swedish feminist at the bombings in Belgium actually stated that she was more scared when the military arrived than when the bombs went off, since they had scarry salt guns, and all soldiers are evil)

Hopefully it will not pass.

>>29364737
Some shit about their primary source were shit collectors buy. The fine details are lost in an article made months ago. It's been in the works for a while now though. You can still buy functional guns through the proper channels.

Not knowing anything about the collectors ones, it's only an assumption that once they're welded and cut that the amount of paperwork drops by a page

>>29365133
If it wont pass now, it will do so in 5 years or less.
On a longer watch there will be a semiauto ban for sure

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>>29364737
>>29365057
Actually yes, they were. Some of them at least, were deactivated east european AK that were reactivated. By this reasoning, soon all guns will be censored on the internet and TV, lest someone figues out how they work and builds one. kek, I hate my country so much, and all of the EU as well, we deserve everything that's coming to us, we derve to get outbred by kebabs

>>29358032
It is clearly a sarcastic comment you faggot moron retard bitch idiot

>>29357967
Who gives a flying fuck about deactivated guns? Only closet homosexuals buy them. Criminals get their guns from ex-yugo arms dealers. Shooters have real working guns.

>>29365335
It won't pass because all euro ministers minus three faggots were against the ban. Like I already said, the project will have to be extremely watered down to find a consensus. Probably only the deactivated weapon and online sale part will pass.

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>>29364695
to say this won't affect the de-act market is just silly, and if I'm not wrong, the same supply of guns making our parts kits are sent to be made into "de-act" condition right?

now that de-acts are stupid bullshit those guns will go to America as parts kits simply because they will fetch a higher price as a parts kit.

>the british gov's face when they realize this

>>29364709
I thought France didn't sell surplus firearms to the civilian market and instead destroyed them.

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>>29365360
No they were fucking not. Stop spreading bullshit lies. The guns were Serbian M70's smuggelwd via Petrohemija.

>>29365741
*Jugohemija and Waffen Schumacher

Fuck my life

>>29358119
No. its more like they think that criminals will buy a DEKO gun and spend the hours and tools needed to reactivate it instead of just buying a full functional weapon on the black market for a lesser cost.

>>29365747
Waffen schumacher are good boys, i get all my semis from them.

>>29357967
Honestly, I don't give two fucks about deactivated weapons.

The semi-auto bullshit cannot happen though.

>>29357967
while the state is bad, it's not nearly as bad you are led to believe:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0-J2pYLCvI

>>29358081
bought a deact SA vz. 26 + 2 mags from them before they stop selling those

>>29357967
>Of course the semi-auto ban will also pass.
I would be so fucking mad.
I'm waiting since three months for my rifle

>>29357967
>>29368280
Its not a ban. its a directive. member states will have to choose independently if they wanna follow along with it. So eastern and scandinavian members will not implement a ban while belgium, france, italy and UK will go further down the road to being giant kindergardens.

>>29368385
That's the problem, I'm am belgian

I swear to God if the gun ban passes I'll get an illegal gun.

>>29368406
For being such a cool gun history country you guys are awfully strict.

If you'll cuddle me and clean my mosin I'll let you marry me to bail you out of Belgium faster.

>>29368406
I feel bad for you. Im scandinavian and i got 2 Category B.7 rifles that ill lose if Denmark is stupid enough to adopt a ban. However our minister of justice is mainly opposed to it and all our hunting/shooting organisations oppose the ban as well.

However there was recently a hearing where the ban proponents admitted that they had no clue how many legal semi autos were in circulation and they had no form of impact assessment of what would happen after the directive took place which weakened their position a lot. Noone wants to support an endeavour that has no form of assessment of the end result.

>>29357967
At least the semi auto ban is getting fucked. Several members has stated that they'll refuse to ratify it no matter what the EU decides. Even Sweden think it's too draconian.

>>29358053
nice summary of Brussels EU politics (=german,french,british agenda) for the last decades and future

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I watched that video again yesterday. That could have happened outside my apartment and i got so damn fustrated that there was noone to stop what happened in that scene, that i could have been able to stop them. And now the leaders of our nations are working to ban the weapon that i could have used to stop them.

Goddamn i hate not being free.

>>29368385
>italy.
They arent that bad.

>>29368652
>*working to ban the object that resembles the weapon that i could have used to stop them

>>29368705
I just heard that the minister from Italy supported the ban?

i was not adressing their gun laws in general

>>29359356
>So Zib Militaria have finally confimed that they will be using the fully welded spec.
>http://www.zib-militaria.de/en_GB
>Currently the guns all fully field strip (Only barrels and firing pins are destroyed) but after the 7th they'll all be useless lumps of dogshit with no moving parts.
>This will effect US parts kits market as all the surplus bits will be fully destroyed.

I only pay attention to AK kits, what else is coming in? last lot of AK kits we got was the east german stuff and that was months ago. Yugo kits are drying up, amms kits are getting there too.. I haven't seen anything 'new' in the AK market since the m72ab1 kits came in.

>>29357967
>semi-auto ban will pass.
I feel lucky that I will be able to get an AR-15 in sweden since the ban won't pass here.
But it's still sweden, fuck.
Does anyone know if HERA arms is any good btw? Basicly the only manufacturer being sold here.

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>>29366562
>Dry fires every gun he touches.

Just some food for thought.
The socialist fucks behind this and the retards voting for them know fully well that this isn't going to stop terrorism, or drug gang wars, or crime. They know that shitskins use illegal weapons. They know that gun deaths in the EU are so small they are irrelevant. They know that there isn't a single recorded instance of anyone using a "semi-auto rifle that looks like an automatic weapon of war" (aimed by the ban) to kill someone, in the whole of the EU.

They know this, they are fully aware of it. Trying to explain something that is already known again and again is useless.

The thing is, those people don't want us to own guns, period. They'll start with semi-autos and more restrictions, to make it so annoying it will reduce the number of gun owners, which has already been severely reduced by the numerous gun laws put in place before. Then they'll ban handguns, then they'll tell you the only gun you need for sport shooting is an olympic style bolt action .22, and the only gun you need for hunting is an over and under shotgun, and they'll ban everything else. Then they'll ban hunting, and all firearms, and tell you you need nothing more than an airgun for sport shooting. Then they'll ban airguns as well, and bows, and any object capable of firing a projectile.

The project will be complete in 10 years at best. Don't delude yourself into thinking you'll be spared by living in one country or another. Don't think any politician gives a shit about you, because they don't. If they know they'll get more votes by supporting gun control, which is true, because most Europeans are hardcore statists, then they'll do so.

>>29368280
I would be even more mad, i payed 1700€ for an Schmeißer AR like two month ago.
Even if there would be a compensation (what isn't included in the proposal) there would be a maximal compensation (like 400€ or something.)

If they want to take my funs they will have to take it by force

>>29366527
It will, this morning Junker said that he would be willing to ensure the ban with emergency regulations if the parliament would say no.
The only chance we have is the ECJ

The best part of the entire semi auto ban shit is that they want to ban "military styled rifles" but dont even say what defines such rifles.
>Is an M1 Carbine an military styled rifle because it is still in use by certain armies?
>Is a wooden AR an military styled rifle? because it sure isn't military styled.
>Is an SU-16 an military styled rifle? It never was used by any military

>>29368419
>For being such a cool gun history country you guys are awfully strict.
Yes it makes it even worse. Though it is, at the moment, possible to get any gun you want except full auto ones if you are patient enough.

>If you'll cuddle me and clean my mosin I'll let you marry me to bail you out of Belgium faster.
Ok but no homo

>>29369282
Any gun that has been select fire/full auto then converted to semi-auto is going to be banned (surplus AK, Vz58, FAL, G3, etc).
Any semi-auto gun that looks like an "automatic weapon of war" is going to be banned. They purposedly left this part very vague, so that they can ban anything they want, regardless of anything else. What's for sure is that they are going to ban B7 weapons : AR15, AK, VZ58, FAL, G3, HK33, MP5...
The M1 carbine is probably going to be banned, as it looks like an M2 carbine. What about the Mini 14 though? Or as you say the SU16, or the Benelli MR1?
They might not get banned at first, but they will eventually anyway.

from Firearmsunited on normie book

What it is going on?
The European Parliament is on the move. On #Tuesday (29-03-2016) the leading rapporteur of IMCO (Vicky Ford) will present the "amendment of the amendment".
We don't know the content.
We only know that Vicky Ford was very critical, that she invited experts of both sides (anti-gun and pro-gun) to the public hearing on the 15th of March, that other members of IMCO asked critical questions during the last months and lots of people, associations and MEPs have sent suggestions for the proposal.
We also know that the European Commission (including Juncker and Avramopoulos) wants the original proposal, as well as the French Government (and the Belgian and Italian). They praised it in the last week as an efficient tool against terrorism. But IMCO thought that this proposal won't have any impact on terrorism.
As we are delayed till Tuesday we just wish you a Happy Easter.
and info from just an hour ago, there won't be any changes in 91/477 directive in coming days, Vicky Ford's report on the project is almost ready and will she's on our side. leftist cucks will get BTFO by logic

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ITT: People beliving there wont be a semi auto ban within the next 10 years

>>29368385
Thanks god im Czech

>>29370300
>and info from just an hour ago, there won't be any changes in 91/477 directive in coming days...

Can´t find that anywhere; the ministers of "justice" just released a statement of:

pursue ongoing work in a resolute manner:...(1984 style shit).... on control of the acquisition and possession of firearms,.....(more 1984 shit)

>>29357967
These people do realize if you have the tools and know how to make a deactivated gun in its current form work, than you can probably make an entire gun from scratch, right?

I mean the fucking British basically adopted a gun that could be made in basements as their standard issue submachine gun in WW2, they should know this.

>>29370676
The first Uzi was build out of a bedstead. Criminals can build guns when they want

>>29370567
it's on the FU- Poland page

>>29357967
Hopefully Europe will come to its senses and ban rent a trucks and fertilizer. Think of the children! what if another Timothy McVeigh came along? but seriously why ban guns when you can take out way more people with common things found at the hardware store.

>>29368652
You probably wouldn't have had enough time to react Desu, they only took seconds to gun that copper down.

>>29370688
>>29370676
Hell all it takes is two pieces pipe and something to use as a firing pin, bam homemade slame fire shotgun

>>29370847
I can't remember was that cop unarmed or did he only have rubber bullets i forget

>>29357988
>somehow get a hold of a grinder
Christ m8, dont tell me the libcucks regulated that too

>>29370840
Don't laugh, French politicians have considered banning household chemicals and restricting fertilizer to licence owners.

>>29357967
Because nobody cares. At least here in Germany the people interested in these artifacts can easily be harassed as gun nuts and loners and have no own platform. Hunters and sport shooters also dont care about deactivated guns and its easy enough to get real guns so why even get deactivated stuff if you can get a real one?

I mean, I know the law is shit but the few people who cant buy real guns and want to get deactivated stuff are not really important to the masses of leftists who see something gun shaped and want it banned and the death sentence for it. If that remains the only action against funs after Paris its more than I could have hoped for.

>>29370919
Also:
>Of course the semi-auto ban will also pass.
Questionable. But I will definitely get one or two ARs just in case.

>>29370919
This also applies to the whole of the EU.
>From what I hear anyway
>It definitely applies to Scotland
>And probably (formerly) Great Britain as a whole
>Someone please help me out of this hellhole

>>29370867
Rubber bullets. But even lethal 9x19 would have been insufficient in a rifle fight.

What do most terrorists share? What do most criminals in Europe share? Their religion. Let's put all Muslims on a blacklist for gun and ammo purchases. It would be similar to the non-flight list. How to differentiate them from the rest of the population? In most European countries you need to pay a church tax. To avoid paying it, you must prove that you are from another religion. Ex. My wife is listed as Buddhist and I as Christian. Mohamed Abdul is listed as Muslim, he automatically goes on the no-gun list.

>>29370867
>>29371019
French cops don't use rubber bullets in lethal weapons, only in dedicated launchers such as the Flashball and LDB40.
That cop wasn't armed because he was a local cop, which means he works for the mayor, who chooses his equipment. In cities where the mayor is a socialist cuckold, such as Paris, well the local police is unarmed and left to die on the streets.
On the other hand, the national police is always armed with a Sig Sauer SP2022, loaded with speer gold dot hollow points.

>>29371073
I don't know of any EU country making a list of people based on their religion or ethnicity. In any case this is illegal in France. However seeing an arabic name is a good indicator, but leftist cucks would shit in their pants at the thought of doing anything to their precious proteges.

Talking about France again, in practice, sandniggers can't buy guns legally. There is a list of people banned from owning guns, and having the slightest hint of violence on your criminal record or suspicion of having anything to do with terrorism would make you appear on it. Not to mention that you need an authorization from the police to get handguns or semi-auto guns with a capacity of more than 3 rounds, after 6 months of being in a shooting club, a police investigation, a background check and various other shit. Even a sandnigger who passed all that shit would probably still be refused an authorization. I've never seen anything but white people on shooting ranges or hunting.

It's just much easier for them to buy illegal guns from Ex-Yugo countries. And no law is ever going to stop them from doing that.

>>29371154
Yeah. No church tax for France. For one time that a tax would be useful.

>>29369004
anon speaks the truth. what can we eurocucks do about it? get more guns and use them more, raise your voice about the topic to like minded poeple. im a german hasguns and i see many new poeple coming to the shooting'sport' after years of stagnation.

whats the worst possible scenario? full scale 1984 bans and confiscations? so what they wanna do? they come to you and you report them stolen. whats gonna happen? getting robbed is not a crime. and even if they make it a crime, say a nation like germany with maybe 4 million gunowners. just every tenth gun owning person would have the balls to take this easy road, nobody can outlaw such a number of persons. thats how easy it is. they just have the power over us because we let them have such power over our freedom. and poeple are beginning to realise this again, even in cucked statist societys like germany. they start talking in public what the find fucked up in the todays system, and they even start voting new parties, no matter how hard there government and media trys to play 'they evul think of the chiluns'-card.

in the meantime fellow eurocucks, realise that the government and the state is there to serve you, its not supposed that you have to serve them. Nowadays you see its not about legal or illegal its about fucking right or wrong in neverdying moral measurements

>>29368385
I would expect that Polish parts kits won't have much problem making it to the land of U.S.A.

>>29371073
A muslim terrorist would have no problem "converting" to christianity to bypass this law.

It would only piss off the non-insane muslims, the fucked up ones will have to problem telling a white lie to get the guns.

In Poland law already covers this topic..
According to the Court of Appeal in Katowice holder parts of firearms will not be held criminally responsible, even if there is no permit for the weapon. To assign the holder parts of firearms liability provided for in Article. 263 par. 2 of the Criminal Code is not sufficient to establish that they are in the possession of parts such as barrel, drum or chamber castle. They must be dangerous to life or health, capable of launching missiles and destruction at a distance. Features readiness will therefore have the meaning of the law on weapons and ammunition only those parts of firearms that demonstrate performance and technical functionality allowing for their direct use as intended. According to the judgment of the Court of Appeal in Katowice possession of weapons corroded curved barrel and trigger mechanism inoperative can not be so punished.

>>29368798
Lots of polish stuff, DPMs from a couple different importers, DTMs, all the Tantals and mags, Galils from at least two places, Yugo and polish PKMs, MG3s. Things that I know are in progress of being imported legit MG42s, MP40s, SAR80s, Polish milled AKs, Mini Uzis.

>>29371957
As a German I actually find that this is one of the positive sides of the refugee crisis.
This time they went a tad too far and now the years of constant regression in civil rights will finally blow up in their faces and people like us get new parties and platforms to support.
>and i see many new poeple coming to the shooting'sport' after years of stagnation.
And still ranges everywhere in the country close and existing ones cant expand because the politicians say no to it.
Do you also seriously have more people shooting? I didnt know that.
>with maybe 4 million gunowners
10 million guns and ~3,5 million legal gun owners according to the internet
They could probably field a small battalion if they would seriously search through a few villages in Bavaria though.

>>29372630
Not just Bavaria.
Think all of former East Germany.
What do you think the russians did when the paychecks from Moscow stopped coming?

>>29372630
>cant speak for germany in general but the few places where i go shooting are alot more packed with many new guys and also more womans, my home shooting club doubled up in membership numbers in like 2 years ( most in last 6 months) and changed businesstimes to more hours and one more open day after business times were equal for like ten years or so

and even in mass media you have the reports of the exploded number of the buying of free weapons, kleinwaffenschein and sold out pepper sprays

>As a German I actually find that this is one of the positive sides of the refugee crisis.
This time they went a tad too far and now the years of constant regression in civil rights will finally blow up in their faces and people like us get new parties and platforms to support.
indeed. nothing i could add to this conclusion

>>29372978
>and even in mass media you have the reports of the exploded number of the buying of free weapons, kleinwaffenschein and sold out pepper sprays
Yeah, stuff like that is completely sold out here.
Didnt know about the sport shooting though. Thanks.
>my home shooting club doubled up in membership numbers in like 2 years ( most in last 6 months) and changed businesstimes to more hours and one more open day after business times were equal for like ten years or so
Nice.

>>29372809
I wouldnt doubt for a second that many eastern farmers still have some old mosins and shit lying around.
I simply dont know/hear anything about illegal gun ownership outside of Bavaria though.

>>29358093
>>29368280
Semi-auto ban in Belgium will not happen!! There's a huge weapon union who is protecting dealers and sporting institutions!! But still, do what you must and order those ARs now.

>>29369140
>Junker said that he would be willing to ensure the ban with emergency regulations if the parliament would say no.
Source?

>>29357999
Several smiths have rewelded Bren's cut in three to functioning semi autos or F/A post samples.
So yes.

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>>29357967
But will they require all guns to be chained to the ground as well?
Not even welding can prevent the gun from taking flight to enact it's natural slaughter programming if a child comes within 100ft.

>>29368408
And this is how freedom starts...

God speed!

Can someone fill me in?

Did this recent Brussels attack reinvigorate the EU's plans to ban semi-autos?

>>29371073
Here in Belgium to own a legal gun you must :
-Have a medical paper stating you're mentally stable
-Have a clean criminal record
-The police make some researchs on you before delivering your papers
-Go regularly in a gun club to train

And gun clubs here are exclusively frequented by old white men who hate shitskins with a passion

Mohamed Abdul will have a hard time to get a legal

>>29369078
Mine will probably just get stolen and I will be very sad

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>tfw started a hunting class (hunting license is the easiest way to own guns here, can own pretty much everything muricans can, germany btw) shortly before Paris happened

>sandnigs invited in by our politicians kill people with full autos and suddenly the EU decides to ban legal semi-autos

>will hopefully pass the exam and get my hunting license in a few weeks

>always wanted an sks but will have to hold off from buying it until that's decided, no point spending money on a rifle that'll be confiscated a few months later


Semi auto owning Euros, how do you deal with the knowledge that there's a good chance your stuff will be confiscated soon?

How do we stop it? How likely is it? Already signed the petition and sent it to everyone I know.

>>29369004
You're right and they're not even secretive about it. The German Rifle Association contacted a Green Party MEP and his response was essentially that. Sports shooters shouldn't have guns period (other than air rifles) and hunters need to be severely restricted as well

Public disarmament is and has always been the goal

>>29376133
>how to stop it
You have a gun
>Im swiss

>>29376146
Unfortunate but true
>>29376133
It wont be confiscated. They will just ban the sale of semi auto rifles.
Not the ownership.
Better buy one asap

>>29376133
why do you allow them? laws aside, they are denying you the right to your own property based on the actions of others. why is it seen as such a horrible thing to simply not let them take from you?

>>29376133
>Semi auto owning Euros, how do you deal with the knowledge that there's a good chance your stuff will be confiscated soon?
More like I will have a boating accident

>>29376270
>Euros
>being allowed to take guns on boats

Hunting rifles, maybe.

>>29364709
France don't sell their milsurp. The FAMASes will be left to catch dust in some warehouse, then destroyed in a few years.

>>29366417
it's like yuros forget that they have turkroaches and slavs to the east and fucking russia sitting on top of them. I mean christ there's a goddamn civil war going on in the ukraine; that'd be like if the mormons were trying to take over Utah and the rest of the nation just pretended it was business as usual.

>>29376359
It was a saying...Most probable case is some thug while steal them

>>29365741
>tfw one of the AK pistols was a zastava imported into the US by century arms that somehow made it's way via mexico back to central europe, then into the hands of one of the paris shooters
>mfw century arms is like 30 minutes away from me in palm beach FL
small world

>>29370847
>you wouldn't have time to pick up a rifle and shoot those fucks
>still frame from a video that a guy took of the whole incident
>you wouldn't have had time to react
>guy reacted
>with a camera

>>29376607
Even if he had a legal gun, you are supposed, if you are a law abiding citizen, to keep your gun unloaded in a locked closet

>>29376635
>our laws would have prevented a person with a gun from saving that officers life!
which is why a free society would... get this... change those laws. Or never have them in the first place.

>be yurocuck
>i sure wish I could stop _______
>too bad I don't own a gun
>too bad if I did own a gun it'd be some cucked shit like a straight pull featureless AR with a 5 round fixed magizine
>too bad it would have to be in a locked safe unloaded with ammo in a seperate locked container in another room
>oh well, I guess I'll just continue to video tape this guy being murdered
>change our laws? yes, we need to make deactivated guns illegal to stop attacks like this from ever happening! Great Idea anon!

>>29376635
If you're at home, you're allowed to walk around with it loaded so long as nobody outside can see you.

At least that's how it is here in Belgium.

There was even a court pronouncement saying a jeweller who shot a burglar was allowed to keep his revolver loaded under his bed.

>>29376652
Remember, the problem is that women + male cucks are those pushing for gun control, gun bans, etc. And they easily make 50% + of the population
>>29376661
Yeah right, but is it the same case in France ?
It's funny meeting fellow belgians on /k/

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>>29372630
Hahahahaha, refugees a good thing for you?

Only you germany, only. You.

Check out my CC you cucked son of a bitch. Save the photo to present to the muslim who tries to decapitate you.

>>29376133
You are so fucking cucked and doomed.

I can legally carry an ar15 in walmart , buy ammo with it open carried and walk to my land down the road and shoot. You are all fucked.

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>>29357967
t-those poor guns

>>29357967
Wew.

Luckily I can still keep my air gun powerful enough to kill a man. Though it's only a matter of time.

>>29375717
The police research on you will be in your report ONLY if you ask for a semi auto long gun, revolvers in any caliber and semi auto pistols in calibers above .22LR.

For a single shot .460s&w rile or lever gun (even in .500s&w) in belgium you dont need anything other than your sport shooting (that you get after 6 months) license and your ID.

There is no reason for law abiding citizens in belgium not to get guns... Im from Italy and I never had a problem here in .be

>>29357967
I've had enough, I'm moving to Serbia, they have guns there and hopefully there will be opportunities to purge the rest of europe using glorious serbia as a base.

>>29373204
>some old mosins
I ain't talking about some old nuggets.
When the russians left after the collapse of the Soviet Union metric shit-tons of equipment went "missing". From small arms to explosives to AT weapons to crew served ones. Fucking everything was sold out, so the officers had a nice little retirement fund. I heard from my dad and several former NVA soldiers how the russians came with truckloads of stuff and sold them to whoever wanted them. 300 East German Mark for an AKM with 4 mags and a spam can.
The amount of stuff still hidden in some EG basements and attics is unbelievable.

>>29376968
Like in Lord of War, lel

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>>29376270
>>29376236
They all have to be registered, so they know whom to confiscate from. Claiming that you had one of them stolen would require a sophisticated story because otherwise you'll be fucked for improper storage (here they need to be locked away, so you could either have someone steal your safe or have it stolen from your car on the way to the range?) but if you did, you'd probably still have the police checking every corner of your house to see if its true.

>>29376218
>They will just ban the sale of semi auto rifles.
>Not the ownership.
Not true. This is the case with old de-acs, but with guns they have never done a similar thing. Either you can buy it on a license, or you can't have it at all and they're trying the latter for semi autos. Read the proposal, it says they must under no circumstances be owned by civilians.


In short, they know who has them and you'll get fucked if you claim that you don't anymore and this is why you Americans must never ever register your guns.

Registration = eventual confiscation, this was already to be expected when the EU mandated national central gun registries a while ago.

Swiss here. I don't give a fuck because I can own real guns.

Why the fuck should I get a deactivated one when I can buy the real shit?

>>29377159
America here.

The guns that go to make the supply of deacts are probably the same guns used to make parts kits that end up in America and built back into rifles.

De-act guns being worthless is probably a good thing for the market to shift toward selling them to Americans.

>>29377193
Even if the guns have to change hands into a different country before being imported, it's still a worthwhile goal.

>>29377150
>They all have to be registered, so they know whom to confiscate from. Claiming that you had one of them stolen would require a sophisticated story because otherwise you'll be fucked for improper storage (here they need to be locked away, so you could either have someone steal your safe or have it stolen from your car on the way to the range?) but if you did, you'd probably still have the police checking every corner of your house to see if its true.

You are forgetting an important parameter. I live in a rural area, the policemen are bro and gun enthusiasts as well.
Even if this wasn't the case, I live in Wallonia so I could bribe my way out pretty easily

>>29377144
It's funny that you say that, because my dad actually first told me about it while watching the movie, during the scene they first show the giant arsenals and later when he has to land the plane and gives all the guns to the Africans.

>>29376697
i think he means this as a 'take a little good out of a bad thing'. and if you would have a clue from western european politics and the current developements in there societies you would understand his statement. its ridicolous, but its true.

nice internetpic of a hammer striked pistol with external safety and faggot color pattern as 'your' cc piece by the way.

>>29357967
>Semi-auto ban will pass
I thought it wouldn't? Did the countries opposing it lose?

>>29377150
This. Absolutely this. Fellow PR fag currently fighting for our firearm rights, whatever you do, NEVER. EVER. Register your firearm.
>http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/04/daniel-zimmerman/happens-register-guns/

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>>29378147
>whatever you do, NEVER. EVER. Register your firearm.
>>http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/04/daniel-zimmerman/happens-regi

Thanks anon, that was a slightly terrifying read. I know of another case like that, even worse:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearms_legislation_in_Ireland#1972_Temporary_Custody_Order_and_Pistols_in_Irish_firearms_law

>Firearms (Temporary Custody) Order, 1972)[23] was issued for all privately held pistols and all rifles over .22 calibre to be surrendered to local Garda Síochána (police) stations by 5 August 1972, for a period of one month. This order was complied with, but when firearms owners returned to reclaim their firearms, they were informed that their licences had expired while their firearms were in custody (Irish firearms licences until 2008 were issued for a period of one year, and all licences were usually dealt with at the same time, usually at the start of August, though the date has changed over the years). Since the firearms were no longer licensed, they could not be returned until a new licence was issued; upon seeking a renewal of their licences, applicants were informed that a new Garda policy was in place that would refuse licence applications for all pistols and all firearms over .22 in calibre. As such, the firearms in Garda custody remained in Garda custody.

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>>29357967
>TFW IT DOESN'T AFFECT DEACTS IN RUSSIA

HAHAHA

>MFW WE ARE MORE FREE IN RUSSIA THEN YOU EUROPOORS ARE IN YOUR 'WESTERN' DEMOCRATIC STYLE FREEDOM.

>>29357967
>all deactivated guns in Europe will be fully welded

Bit of a misnomer there senpai.
Old spec deacts will be grandfathered in; can't really imagine cops trying to track down every single demilled gun (which can't be traced due to the lack of a paper trail) and welding it up.

>>29376133
>Semi auto owning Euros, how do you deal with the knowledge that there's a good chance your stuff will be confiscated soon?
I have two gun safes. Hopefully nobody steals the one I store the semi autos in. Would be a real shame.
Here in baria you fill in a small document and then the state stops caring when something like this happens. Same when guns get lost.
>>29376697
>Hahahahaha, refugees a good thing for you?
Work on your reading comprehension.
>>29376968
I didnt know that but I should have expected it.
>>29377959
>Did the countries opposing it lose?
They will. If France, Germany and Britain want to ban all the scary fire sticks the EU will ban all the scary fire sticks.

>>29380772
>baria
*Bavaria
Im tired.

Theoretical Question: if I go to Europe and buy a deactivated weapon, demil it to atf specs or whatever (probably just cut the receiver into a few bits and call it good) can I mail it home or take it on the plane?

>>29380816
there is some sort of fuckery for importing/exporting weapon parts from the eu into the us