/brg/ Battle Rifle General

>>29337607
Garand isnt a battle rifle.

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>>29337612
this

>>29337612
>x is not x
k

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_rifle

>>29337612

elaborate on your reasoning

>>29337607
Currently have a scar 17 but im really thinking about getting a m1.

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>>29337834
get an m1a

M1 was one of the first fully fielded battle rifles you bunch of fucking autists.

>M14 claiming M1 isn't a battle rifle
Literally top kek, what the hell do you think an M-14 is? It's a retooled Garand

>>29337663
Wikipedia is not a valid source.
Cite me a proper definition.
Oh wait

>>29337834
Currently have a 17s, thinking about why DSA is out of stock on 1913 lowers and hoping the armalite bcgs can stay in stock till I get paid.

>>29337857

Not really. The gas system is different but thats just a minor thing.

>>29337857
An m14 is a garand made into a battle rifle

>>29337966
>Implying an M-14 is more than a mag fed .308 Tanker Garand with a shorter gas systen

Wew lad. It is the same exact action, and they both function on a long stroke gas piston. They just have different sized chambers and barrels

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>>29337970
needs dat clipazine

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14th for tranny free general

>>29338280
>Tranny free
How do you know?

>>29337991

Garand is long stroke and M14 is short stroke. The M1 carbine and the M14 have more in common mechanically. Nice try though broseph. They look nothing alike under the handguard desu senpai

Thinking of trading in my Saiga 12 for an Oracle .308. Good or bad idea? I'm done with shotguns.

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HAHA, TIME FOR
Zielgeraetsatz Bildverstaerkung Typ FERO-Z 51 ZUB Vers. Nr. 5855-12-166-5706

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>>29338352
>Modern Talking blaring in background.

>>29338326

Actually an M1 Garand is more DI but whateves

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>>29338352
>>29338367
Wew

>>29338346
Railed gas blocks a shit, but that's just IMO.

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I'm unable to explain why it has "US PROPERTY" on it, maybe an alphabet agency/LEO bought it and never used it.

This thing is SPOTLESS. The mounts are still in the fucking wrapping paper.

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No marks on the mount.

>>29338447
He can swap it out

>>29338447
Yeah it looks ugly as shit. Was honestly the only thing bugging me. Cool cool.

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>>29338352
>>29338367
>>29338460
Who did you get it from?

>>29338428
yes, that's why they have a big op rod

>>29338565
Gunshop in PA, bid out an auction.

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info about 'proper' rhodie painting

>>29338586
Baby pukes on rifle after eating smashed peas.

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>>29338614
sorry being dumb

http://arizonaresponsesystems.com/notes/notes-fal/fal-tutorial-rhodpat/page-fal-rhodpat.shtml

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>>29338687
Noice m8

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>>29337612

>rifle
>used in battle

So which of these do you disagree with?

>>29337612
Define battle rifle.

If you can't, then I will continue to consider the Garand a battle rifle.

AG42b, MAS-49, Garand, FN49 are all semi auto infantry-rifles in a full power cartridge.

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>>29339066
You can do that.

>>29337607
decided imma get a M14

what good scope mounts and beginner scope should I get?

looking for a cheap one I won't mind abusing but good enough to maybe start practicing on my marksmanship with

>>29339589

I don't get this. Why wouldn't I want a hot first lady? Does the first lady of the US need to look like a transvestite gorilla like Michelle Obama?

>>29342129
its more that she's a "whore" and "doesn't have good traditional values like not taking skimpy pictures" than her being hot.

>>29342140

She is a successful mother and knows over 4 languages. How are those not traditional values? How is lewd modeling make her a whore? Its not like she had three kids out of wedlock like bernie sanders wife.

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>>29342140

> skimpy outfits
> whore

Reddit, I thought you numale feminists were against slut shaming?

>>29342157
im merely explaining their angle of attack with regards to the picture, not really taking a side or defending the "whore" slander.

>>29342166
see>>29342173 (me)

>>29337607
Guys, there is a FN49 at my LGS for 899 (Egyptian in 8mm) meh condition
should I grab it?

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>>29339066
generally today a battle rifle refers to an assault rifle that can be deployed as a light machiengun

>>29342572
I thought a battle rifle was any semi automatic / fully automatic rifle firing a full size cartridge.

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>>29343046
Nope Just a military rifle that fires a full sized cartridge.

>>29343285
This.

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>>29343285
>>29343290
if you are actually retarded

gotta be semi and have that mag

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>>29343303
Nope Just has to have a cartridge, not be a carbine, and fire a proper rifle round.

>>29343303
What if the year is 1920?

>>29343316
isn't that pretty damn close to a sevice rifle? just let sleeping dogs lie anon and stop trying to reinvent definitions for well-eastablished terms

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>>29343316
>ptrsfags this butthurt
everything i ever wanted

>>29343332
fedora avtomat or the BAR if you count 30-06

>>29343336
A service just has to be a rifle used by a military every rifle from the muzzle loaders to the m16 is a service rifle.

>>29343357
taking the morning shitposting early i see
> applaud the regilarity

>>29337612
Is this guy retarded?

>>29343509
Yes

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PTR reportan

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>tfw I just bought a SCAR
HYPE
Y
P
E

Got it through gunborker, will be postan shitty phone pics when it gets here

>>29344419
Oh man... If I got a battle rifle it would be the PTR or some kind of galil. How do you like it so far? Does it seem to damn heavy without resting on a bipod? What about the trigger pull? Tried any steel case ammo? (i'd assume it works?)

>>29345013
Not him but trigger isn't great but I've had much worse. Steel case is fine in G3 clones.

>>29344981
Okay anon

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>>29344981
I still think the gun doesn't justify the price, but scars are super comfortable compared to other battle rifles IMO and I think buy once cry once is the correct way to buy guns. I just find them a bit ugly, that's all.
At least my mas 49/56 is well above average when it comes to comfort and not being overly bulky or heavy for a 308 semi auto. But I need to hold a m14 socom(I think, the shorter barreled one) again one of these days to see what my actual #2 is when it comes to comfortable feeling battle rifles. The PTR isn't too bad to me either, otherwise I'm not much of a fan of how pistol gripped battle rifles feel.
>>29344419
I need to get me one of those too. I went looking the other day but only found a cetme to hold. And this cetme was a real piece of mis-fitted junk, even compared to other century cetme rifles I've found in the past.

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>>29345013
It is a heavy rifle but I'm not a manlet so it's not too bad. Trigger is heavy and mushy but you get used to it. I haven't shot steel case out if it but ptr says it's fine.

>>29345658
The socom has been plagued by issues. The truncated gas action is terrible.
Not sure how apparently so many rifles are awkward for you to fire. Pistol gripped rifles often have more controls easily reached while maintaining the grip. Might I suggest that it's a training issue.

The SCAR is rather high up the diminishing returns curve. Pare down your desires and it's easy enough to find a rifle at half the price to get there.

>>29345972
Too bad it's got problems, I actually kindof liked those.
>Not sure how apparently so many rifles are awkward for you to fire
They're not bad, just not great feeling. It's not a big deal, it won't stop me from buying them. They'll just be there for the collection, less so for shooting.
>Pare down your desires and it's easy enough to find a rifle at half the price to get there.
Agreed bigtime, about 1/6th the price in my case.

I looked at a Century CETME at Cabela's today, this gun was practically designed for my height and arm length. The weight is all near the grip and the charging handle is right above my supporting hand. It was like an extension of my body. I need one but not a Century one. PTR91 is the best bang for the buck, correct?

I really wish there was an FAL there so I could compare the two.

I also looked at an M74 sporter. The stock looks like it was made for a child.

>>29346600
Not for children, just malnourished slavs.

>>29343285
It really must be semiautomatic at least.

>>29345658
the SKS isn't a "battle rifle"... is it?

also, what is the best battle rifle for Commiefornians [that don't want to be calicucked into bullet buttons]? Basically just the M1A Scout/SOCOM, right?

>>29347099
nope

>>29347401
Nope. 7.62x39 is an intermediate cartridge.
Full size cartridges are generally characterized by casings of length exceeding 50mm and bullets that hover around a 7-8mm diameter.

These are just my personal observations, idk if there is truly any set-in-stone criteria for full-size rounds.

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>>29343285
>>29347099
Wikipedia hits the nail right on the head within the first 20 words.
>>29347401
No, absolutely not, I used that picture more to illustrate how the MAS is not that bulky.

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>>29346600
>PTR91 is the best bang for the buck, correct?
Yes.

>>29347631
AR-10s are better and can be cheaper

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>>29343392
goodposting is part of an essential breakfast

>>29347648
this

>>29342090

Basset Machine mount is one of the best and cheapest. Holds zero even if you remove it. I cant say enough about em.

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>>29347683

Nugget fest was such a good time.

>>29347648
Where to look? Is there an AR10files? How expensive are mags, I know G3 mags can be a few dollars.

>>29347828
In general? arfcom, but really any gun forum will do damn near. Hit up /arg/ here too.

Mag wise, pmag LR308s are most common. Under $20. Unlike G3 mags, its not a crapshoot if they are any good or not.

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>>29347739
it was

i shot 5 rounds out of my scar total before i brought it and it got some roundage through it after the weekend

>>29347828
https://www.slickguns.com/product/popular-ar10-rifles-under-1000

>>29347864

Oh right that was your scar. You had the AUG too correct? I wish I could buy one up here in Jew York

>>29343303
Jesus fuck, your not funny.
>XD PTR FAGS ASS MAD.
All you do is shit post at yourself and stir shit up.
This is the Battle Rifle thread, not the PAY ATTENTION TO ME! LOOK AT MY FAL THAT I'VE POSTED A MILLION TIMES! IM A KIKE TRANNY! Thread.

>>29347857
Cool

>>29347883
What's the best barrel length for .308? 18"?

>>29347864
So you go to nuggetfest?
Now I know who to shoot on "accident".

>>29347970

Nah man he was a cool dude aside from dressing like a japanese cartoon lady

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>>29347949
22 if for pinpoint accuracy

>>29347939
post ur battle rifle

>>29347970
yeah i go to the pa ones maybe others depending on how far and if i cant get off work

>>29347912
the aug was johnsons

>>29348010
they wont believe you

>>29348010
>Cool dude
>Shits up Battle Rifle threads by attention whoring.
>Goes out in the woods with men and dresses like a faggot.
>Attention whoring IRL and Online.
Cool guy huh?

>>29348041
Oh right pretty sure I borrowed you some matches or a lighter at some point heh

>>29348057

I had no issues with him. He took some good pics, ok in my book

>>29347949
16" is fine. Fuddlore says at least 18", but thats fuddlore.

>>29337607
help me /brg/ i need mag pouches for my carrier because the ones that came with it are too small

what is best place for cheap mag pouches

also where can i find a >dump pouch

>>29348041
shut it, butthole

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There's a lack of M14 representation...so here's mine with my newly acquired E2 stock.

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>>29348634

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>>29348320
no

>>29348634
i think it looks weird but its your raifu fampai

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Snow-out soon.

>>29347426
Pretending to be retarded is still retarded.

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>>29348634

Hey guy. Cool stock.

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>>29348634
Man that's worse than the AK donger

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>>29350272
tfw not the only shiny fal

>>29342572
But that's wrong

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>>29348634
cool stock, mine is literally "stock"

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If I could get the one on the bottom, I would.

I just want a 30-06 BR that uses cheap magazines (which is only the BAR afaik).

I really hate the HCAR, but what about one of their 30 rounders in the sidefeeding Cobb upper? Man. I am dying here.

>>29353848
>*which is only the BAR's MAGAZINES afaik

>>29353848
Is there any reason a FAL could note be MADE (not remade) in 30-06? IIRC, it uses long stroke like the Garand and BAR, but is an overall better and more evolved design. Adujustable gas system standard means you could make better use of the
>WIDE
variations of 30-06 ammo.

Is there any reason why the DI system of 30-06 ARs (like Noreens) would be better or worse than a (long) piston system ala FAL?

Excuse me if I got some info wrong, I don't own any of those specific firearms. I do have a belt fed semi auto 308 I got in trade for a junky bassboat that I'll post pics of when I get home.
If /brg/ thinks that counts as a BR...

>>29354002
Well, you'd have to stretch the receiver design a bit, I don't think it's quite long enough to accommodate 7.62x63mm.

>>29354565
Are you saying that if I MADE a FAL, not reworked an existing x51, that it would not function at the increased length?

Or are you just pointing out the obvious that a x63 don't fit in a x51?

>>29353848
>wanting a BR in 30-06
>Not wanting a BR in glorious 6.5x55

>>29354731
>not explaining yourself
wew

I like 30-06 because of the wide options available for it and the relatively low price point. Why would I want your, ?swedish? round?

>>29354685
I'm saying it would be a very stretched FAL that you would have to make.

>>29354813
Like more than an inch or so?

>>29354824
Well, more than an inch.

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>>29355081

How much more?

>>29355281
Idk, the mag well would need to be like 1-2cm longer to accommodate the larger round. The longer chamber might also necessitate some additional length.
Idk, I pulling this all out of my ass, man.

>>29355297
>1-2cm longer to accommodate the larger round
But the round is only 12mm or so longer, and I think the brass is the same width as the widest parts, or very, very close.
The chamber would have to be the same length longer. So it should only be longer by double the difference in the rounds' lengths. Roughly, 2 and a half cm.

>>29355331
As I said, I'm pulling this all out of my ass. I figured in some extra length to account for larger, heavier, and potentially longer rounds in 30-06.

>>29355487
Dude you don't even know wtf you're talking about a little bit. Potentially longer? lmao It's fucking 30 AUGHT 6 muh negro, of course it's longer. Uses any of the bullets .308 can, but alot more too. The width is effectively the same.

I ain't mad, you gave me a good laugh. I am wondering why you bother trying to answer when you know you don't know though.

>>29347828
I built my PSA AR-10, with a magpul rear iron sight, with 3 25rd pmgs and 2 20 rd pmgs all together for $750ish

>>29355723
Honest accuracy and reliability?

>>29355608
Eh, work is slow and nobody else seemed to bother answering. Glad I gave you a right good chuckle, though.

>>29355773
As accurate as I am with the iron sights at 100yrds. Never had a hiccup shooting ZQ1 7.62 x 51. Im still looking for optics for it, cant make up my mind.

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>>29355773
Here's a picture.

>>29355865
You're a good man, Charlie Brown.

>>29355887
So you don't know how accurate the gun itself is?

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what do you guys think of the m1a scout?

>>29356009
So long as you don't actually scope it in a "scout" configuration, not too shabby.

>>29356022
But the only mount seems to be for long eye relief, why do you think that's bad anyway?

>>29356043
It's looks above all else, I can't stand how scout scoped rifles look.

>>29355986
When I buy a Lupold scope and vice the rifle in I will find out. However I did not build it to compete in 1000yrd competitions. I built it to be a 1-500 yrd rifle / hunting rifle.

If your looking for pinpoint accuracy I would probably go with a longer barrel. Maybe a fixed stock with a adjustable mono-pod. Rifle length gas system with a good Lupold scope. Harris bipod. That will cost you however. Remember I have about 700-750$ in this rifle.

>>29356095
>That will cost you however. Remember I have about 700-750$ in this rifle
Yeah I get that, that's why I'm asking.

As I understand it, AR10s bring the best potential and inherent accuracy to the table of all the BRs. Or you get an AR10 if accuracy matters most to you. So I want to know what 700$ gets, because if it beats a PTR then fuck PTR.

It's been reliable then, no major AR-esque issues?

Also what did "I built this" actually consist of? Could You have made it for another caliber like 300wm or something bigger (not taking into account the magazine issues).

>>29356204
It was a complete upper I got on sale with bcg and ch for like $289. The stripped lower and all parts to complete the lower cost about $230 with ffl and shipping. Remember to check what type of magazines the lowers take also. FYI I just did the math for everything. It was $685 for the complete setup.

>>29356204
As much as I am a G3 fanboy, you can definitely build a better AR10 for less than a PTR.

>>29342157
Calm down Donald

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>>29356266
>It was $685 for the complete setup

>>29337650
>>29337855
>>29337996
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>>29347864
>>29348041
>>29348059
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>>29350340
I came back to tell you to kill yourself, fucking tranny scum

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>>29357201
You really want to suck him off dont you?

>>29357201
I admire your dedication to hatred.

>>29357214
thanks

>>29357201
Hay noel whats up?

>>29357259
nothing george, how are you?

>>29357259
I heard your seeing zootoptia tonight furfag

>>29343316
Let it go faggot your shitty milsurp doesn't count as a battle rifle and doesn't belong in this thread. You're shortening or condensing "requisites" to suit you, what are you a girl?

>>29347828
Was gonna say what
>>29347857
Said
You think those sub $5.00 magazines all work great, are in good/like new condition. Don't have weak used up whore lips and springs. Buy them for the bodies but know you will be fixing a good portiom of them.

>>29357339
On some level I can get why people like the dirt cheap mags. But your going to get lemons. Yeah AR10 mags are like three or four times as much, but they are still cheap, and all work.

Im going to imagine if one is shopping for a sub $1000 rifle, your not the type who seriously is going to lay in a few hundred magazines and thousands of rounds of ammo. And if you plan on it later, your probably going to want a better rifle, or at the least better magazines. G3 mags while cheap, have ancient springs. AR10 mags have some really nice modern springs, and metallurgy has come a long way.

>>29357417
>and metallurgy has come a long way.
In the field of firearms magazines I doubt it's changed much since the late 1980s, when the majority of my G3 mags were made. Most were still in the factory wrapper when I got them.

>>29357774
You doubt? You study metallurgy much?

Chrome silicon wires didnt really make an appearance in firearms magazines till like fifteen years ago.

Cast parts made in the 90s earned a poor reputation. Todays cast is as good as 90s forged. Things improve.

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>>29357808
>Chrome silicon
Oh lawdy.

>Cast parts
>in a rifle magazine

>>29357417
I just want people to design new battle rifles using surplus magazines like the G3's. Why in the fuck that kel tec, thing, uses FAL magazines is beyond me. Like most of keltec's "unique decisions."

I did hear they might make that little bullpup assault rifle of their into a fullsize battle rifle, and if they do I REAL FUCKING HOPE they make it use G3 magazines. ARE YOU LISTENING KELTEC?

>>29358734
SCAR uses minorly modified FAL mags.

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>>29358734
>Why in the fuck that kel tec, thing, uses FAL magazines is beyond me.
Because that's what was cheap when it was in development.

CMMG made a .308AR lower that used G3 mags.

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>>29358795
What optic is that?

16 inch or 21 inch barrel

>>29360383
18 inch

>>29360447
out of stock

>>29360458
16"

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>>29360383
21", unless you're some kind of faggot.

>>29361537
Size queen

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>>29337612

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>>29338986
Like this right?

>>29363789
>that canted RDS
The fuck man.

>>29357201
You guys really go out of your way to put him down for no reason lol. Your insecurities can't be this hard to keep in check, right?

>>29337996
That is a retardedly high optics setup

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I want build gun like pic related. SR-25? What's on the end of the barrel? Suppressor?

>>29363928
To ensure I can operate in high stressed operational situations

>>29364416
Like when your neck gets snapped at a 90 degree angle to the right?

>>29347631
Nice anime patch.

Does the SCAR have an alternative stock? I don't think I could deal with that boot if I ever had one.

>>29364306
Correct

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>>29366377
You can put an ACR stock on it.
Or any AR stock you want.

The boot is fine though.

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is the M1A the best battle rifle for Calicucks that don't wanna mutilate their gat with bullet buttons? if so, Scout or SOCOM?

I mean, it's still an objectively great rifle even if it's one of the only non-augmented battle rifle Commiefornia allows, right? Supposedly reliable, durable, battle-proven, still in service in some form with the US .mil, etc.

what would be lost by going with an M1A instead of the SCAR? what would be gained?

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>>29366768
Not necessarily.
A DSA cali pattern FAL. Fixed mag, feed from strippers.

If you do you M1A, do not go socom. The short gas action on it is decidedly not ideal.

Im not sure what manner of castration has to be done to a SCAR to get it into the PRK. Probably unsavory things, but things that could be removed once back in freedomland.

>>29366603
>>29366377
Why IS the boot a thing though? It is certainly distinctive, but that doesn't mean good.

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>>29366848
Its stable, it comfortable, it has storage inside of it.
Its a perfectly fine stock.

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>>29337607
>>29366768
How battle proven was the M14? Relative to the rifle before and the rifle after, it was not in cervix very long before it was phased out (from its original role at least).

>how many were really fielded at the height?
>how many exist in the US military's arsenal now?
>are the ones fielded nowadays simply retooled originals or newly made?

>what's the most prevalent M14 meme/myth?

>>29366909
http://looserounds.com/2015/01/30/the-m14-not-much-for-fighting-a-case-against-the-m14-legend/

>>29366768
Scout, if you want to get maximum performance out of the 7.62x51 you don't want your barrel to be shorter than 18 inches. 18 inches is supposedly the sweet spot where you aren't losing enough velocity(vs a 20-24 inch barrel)for it to make a huge difference, and you've got better barrel harmonics(shorter barrel=less barrel flex)for more accurate follow up shots.

>>29366957
There is precisely one problem with that rifle, and one problem alone. This problem might not be a problem for you.

The dragon cannot mount a suppressor.

>>29366972
16" is fine
http://rifleshooter.com/2014/12/308-winchester-7-62x51mm-nato-barrel-length-versus-velocity-28-to-16-5/

>>29366977

No suppressor yet. When I get one the dragon is coming off. Same happened on my other AR.

>>29366990
Which reticle in the NF you go with?

>>29367001

Moar, tend use moa and good for purposes.

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>>29366837
meh, still don't like the idea of a FAL "fixed" to work in Cali. if something is intended originally for detachable mags, keep it that way and work with 10-rounders; for the same reason I wouldn't put detachable mags on an SKS either.

that img has me worried... does the M1A really have that bad of a rep or is it just a vocal minority? I seriously was under the impression that it was mad reliable - aside from the mechanically altered SOCOM - or was that just in comparison to the original M16 and its Vietnam history?

sounds like the M1A is really the only semiauto 308 worth buying in Cali though... just would help if I was assured that it was an objectively great rifle. kinda like how settling for the SKS over the AK isn't really that bad, since the SKS is a great weapon in its own right.

guess the Scout is the way to go too, I guess 2 inches can't be much of a hindrance when hauling the sucker around now can it? Springfield's website says the SOCOM and Scout both weigh the same too... not sure why though.

>>29367016
The legend of the M14 is a lot grander than the reality. Yes, its still a fine rifle. But its not a hyper accurate rugged monster that kills commies by its mere presence within "muh riflemans quarter mile". The scout is the way to go not because of barrel length, but action length.

Well, if you dont mind reduced capacity mags, the SCAR is going to be more accurate, more reliable, more expensive, etc.

>>29367012
Went milr myself, moar is great too.

>>29366865
>Its a perfectly fine stock.
Read that as a "sock" while looking at the picture.

>>29367079

Haven't even had a chance to zero it yet. Friday it's going to the range and starting to take back to 500 yards.

>>29367016
Fixed magazine (bullet button) doesnt allow the use of standard cap mags in california, in fact it makes it completely illegal. A magazine must be fixed if the rifle has "evil features" like a pistol grip or vertical foregrip. The only rifle that can legally use a standard cap mag here is one that is sporterized (no evil shit) like an m1a, mini14, or one of the monstergrip abomination ar15. Just be prepared with an explanation of where you got the mags before 2001

>>29367066
thanks for the input

pretty sure the SCAR is out of the question sans bullet button due to the pistol grip and telescopic stock. although maybe bullet buttons aren't that bad, I've heard about the "mag magnet" that basically attaches to the bullet button and allows you to activate the mag release with a finger again

>>29367016
Just get a standard length rifle. Barrel length is less of a concern than the stock and optic mount you put on it when it comes to weight.


M1A quality has been declining since they stopped using GI parts. If you just get your hands on a GI extractor, GI hammer and a couple other GI parts you will have 90% of issues fixed.

>Authors note: GI doesnt really have to be military surplus, you can use LRB or any other gucci brand. Just something higher quality than out of the box springfield.

>>29367102
never said standard caps were allowed...

also, it's innocent until proven guilty, and the prosecution has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the mags were bought after 2001, not the defendant proving otherwise. if you must say something, just say you found them in the woods on a hiking trip you took back in 2002

>>29367109
Just dont get caught with it on your rifle. Law states that it can be used as a temporary tool to engage the bullet button and then removed from the rifle. If you leave it on there, even for a moment, you have just created an unregistered assault rifle and CA DOJ will fuck you in the ass because it can. Just be safe an get a radlock and adjust it to "out of state mode" when you are on private property

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>>29347631
They have one at a nearby gun shop in wood grain. Think i should save up ?

>>29367158
$1300 for a PTR?
your getting robbed

>>29347648
No, I love AR's but the charging handle location is atrocious.
If you build an AR-10 build one with a side charging handle.
At that point I'd put it over a PTR.

I'm basically telling you to do what FN did right.

>>29367141
Very true. Chances of going down on standard cap mag charges are slim outside of LA county and Sunnyvale.

>>29367184
Side charging AR10s are a thing.

>>29367199
Yes, that's what I said.

>>29347631
Run your straps lower bro.

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>>29367158
>$1323.86
Uff-da; that's like $350 more than when they came out, and it doesn't have the paddle mag release.

If you're not concerned about mounting a bayonet, CDNN still has the 16" Classic Wood in stock for $849. Again, no paddle release, but a lot cheaper. Otherwise, get the paddle-equipped GI or A3S from Atlantic Firearms and hunt for a wood furniture set; combined it still won't cost you $1300.
https://www.cdnnsports.com/ptr91k-308-16-classic-park-wd.html?___SID=U

All these fire on press and release AR triggers has me thinking about an AR10.

>>29367533
Why?

>rounds cost a decent amount
>can be difficult to control in rapid fire
>defeats purpose of AR10

>>29367545
under fifty cents per round is that expensive?
I can shoulder fire a 60, and controlled pairs arent that difficult to control.
Maybe your purpose for an AR10 is different than my purpose for an AR10.

>>29366909
>>29366920
>>29366920
>>29366920
Geezus, why is it so hard to keep the M14 accurized?

Also found this interesting nugget,
>“When I first got to Vietnam, I was scared to death of the M16. I feared a jamming M16 would get me killed, poison snakes, spiders and a jammed M16 was such a worry to me I opted to carry an M60 on my first LRRP patrol. Later I learned to love it. I hated the M14, it proved not as reliable and was heavier and I could not carry near enough of its ammo. When it comes to combat I would walk over 100 of the best M14s ever made for one good M16.”
Interdasting.

>>29367575
>>29367545
>>29367533

I'd only get one of those trigger's if
>there was a way to go back to single shot
AND
>there was a way to make safe the weapon after you have the trigger down (so it doesn't fire on release) incase the situation in your front changes
The last one is mostly for safety.

>>29367603
Bedding.
The stock-reciever mating isnt very secure. To get around this a bedding material is used. These materials are not known for their durability.

Other issues are that the oprod action is geared for 150gr rounds of M80. Heavier ammo, specifically 175gr loads can cause the oprod to bend.

>>29367662
Had those thoughts myself.
But im not sure that if I am putting rounds out, that I would be in a position where I could not fire a second round out for whatever reason.

You can go back to single fire. Its safe-semi-binary, like a select fire AR.

>>29367669
Unless you go with a more modern stock that doesn't require bedding, like a JAE or SAGE, but be prepared to spend almost as much on those stocks as you did on the rifle.

>>29367700
>safe-semi-binary
So, a standard lower won't work right away, it'd have to be worked to get the select fire?

>>29367716
Meanwhile you can apparently make a fairly cheap Garand take BAR magazines with just a little work. I might do that, but I will not get an M14.

>>29367719
Standard lowers work.
https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/fostechs-echo-trigger-fires-rapid-fire-double-taps/

>>29367731
Do you guys like this style of operation for the trigger over say a tac con 3mr trigger?

>>29368154
As I understand it, the tac com has a 3rd mode where the bolt carrier pushes the trigger back into battery.

Essentially you could keep pulling back, and the trigger would keep reseting itself, and youd keep pulling the trigger.

Its another option.

>>29368154
>tac con 3mr trigger
I doubt whether the 3rd fire mode is able to replicate FA reliably with stressed gross motor skills. Where as the echo types (shot on pull, shot on release) can replicate FA (as well as they can) even when you're a full retard.

I've never used either, so fuck me though.

>>29367662
Yeah, you can pull the trigger, put the rifle on safe, release the trigger and it will not fire.

>The Echo Trigger is designed with safety being the utmost priority. When the shooter is in the Echo Mode and depresses the trigger one round is fired, if the target moves, the shooter can move the selector to the safe position and a second round will not fire upon release.

http://fostechoutdoors.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=85

>>29368336
How long have these kind of triggers, maybe not this particular one, been around? Pull shoot, release shoot I mean.

>>29368755
Recent.
The fostech one isnt even out yet.
The franklin armory one is

>>29368209
I have shit the 3mr and that's not exactly how it works, you can't just hold it back. You basically have to do really fast soft double taps on the trigger. It was the highlight of a friends build and I was not only not imptessed I was disappointed. The only cool thing about it is the usable 3rd setting, going all the way to 3 oh yeah.

>>29368209
Basically has it right I think.

>>29369426
Is me
Fuck second tag was meant to be
>>29368262

>>29369426
Jesus fucking christ.
*shit, I obviously meant shot.
*imptessed, I was not impressed alright.

Inb4 fellow grammar nazis attack.

>>29338352

>>29338367
what is this?

>>29369586
See: >>29338352

>>29369426
Well thanks for your insight, it helped me.

>>29369627
Yes.

What is it?

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Snowed again.

>>29369882
Why don't you read that post we both linked and google some of the words that were in it? I promise it's not just random gibberish.

>>29347683
>weak little bitch arms

>>29370036
Don't lie you want to be held in those arms just like that FAL and that scar. Also post your arms faggot

>>29370341
>anon defending a tripfaggot
>yeah fucking right
Leave your trip on so I can filter you.

Anybody own a BAR?

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>>29370369
i dont post on /k/ without a tripcode

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>>29370369
No you fucking scum. I just think he's really pretty so I white knight for him

>>29371226
>Tmobile
PTRfag?

>>29370815
I've not seen anyone post a BAR ever that i can remember, I've lurked for years and I was posting in the last "BAR:what was it's purpose?" Thread.

>>29371235
Kek

>>29371226
You realize you could easily find a low self esteem pretty boy faggot, right? They're in surplus since most don't want them. You literally don't have to be so pathetic that you white knight for a tripfaggot on the internet.

Battle Rifles, amirite?

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>>29371262
buy one you ninny or stop posting here say your ebt for a few months maybe then you can buy a mas or c308

>>29371262
And THAT fag is not pretty, even a little. Go outside and look at other people.

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>>29371279
Eye of the beholder anon

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Does anyone know if the 30-06 AR10s use the same bolt as a .308 AR10?

>>29371572
>30-06
Do alot of people here have 30-06 BRs?

I was just about to ask how does one make a Garand able to shoot the highest pressure 30-06, I don't want to bend my op-rod.

>>29371708

Adjustable gas plug homie

>>29371751
So they really work? I just read through the advertisement for an allegedly better "ported" plug, said it needs no adjustments and was essentially self regulating. I was skeptical of all of them though.

>>29371772

Yes, my buddy bought one for his so he could shoot new commercial ammo. New stuff all has higher pressures than surplus ball. Its a cheap way to extend the life of your rifle and to open up your ammo selection

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saw this at the local pawn shop
any idea if its quality?

>>29371800
I'm in love with 30-06, I wish there was a magazine fed proper BR in that caliber.

The BAR don't count for me.

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>>29371876

>>29371890
>k-k-kill m-me
>kill
>meeeeee

>>29347683
Sexy.

>>29371876
imbel receivers 99% of the time worked

However, make sure to have the headspace checked before firing it
They're fairly easy to fix if they're out of headspace

>>29371901
thank god its only the buttstock and the grip that is cancer tier.

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>>29371890
if it's under $800 buy it and swap the furniture and put a flash hider on it

>>29371901
>>29371928
>>29371912
i know its FUGLY!!!
i figured i pop a magpul stock on it and a simple grip.

>>29371572
There is like one or two '06 ARs
The have a special snowflake errything.
No clue on bolt, but all AR-10 bolts are not the same.

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>>29371958
>i figured i pop a magpul stock on it and a simple grip.

>>29371928
Its still made by century, so its a lemon.
You sell that shit off and buy something nice.

>>29371976
whats wrong with that?
i think it looks fine

>>29371984
The only thing wrong with Century L1A1s were the receivers

It's all plug and play parts so they didn't have the opportunity to fuck them up

Imbel is gud

>>29371984
>>29371912
so i should try for under 800$?

>>29371985
better than the 20$ piece of cancer the previous owner slapped on it

>>29371985
Magpul FAL stocks are heavy as fuck because they're the adjustable

Just swap the stock out for a humpback, pin a flash hider on and call it good

>>29371995
Inch parts on a metric receiver isnt plug and play.
Some parts were modded to work with the metric receiver, further muddying shit up.

Yes Imbel is fine. But on an inch parts set, your almost going to have issues.

>>29372002
>previous owner

Century factory original, m88

>>29372027
It is on a Type 3 hybrid Imbel receiver, cunt

>>29372027
well fuck that then ill buy a PTR like originally planned

So would anyone say the SKS qualifies as a battle rifle? It has an intermediate cartridge, but the way it was used in fighting seems like it'd be more of a battle rifle than assault weapon.


Also fuck off it's classified as an assault weapon I don't like the wording anymore than you do

>>29372038
So you happen to have one of the like 100 receivers imbel made in the 90s with some inch pattern geometry on it?

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>>29372038
>Century factory original

porque?

I apologize for thinking it was a costum part, we don't get FN FAL's here in canuckistan

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>>29372060
don't listen to fagtron here

>>29372088
see this here?
ALL L1A1 sporters made by Imbel for Century are Type 3 hybrids designed to fit a metric lower, metric barrel, but inch parts kit

>>29372091
thumbhole stocks are the original stocks that came on L1A1 sporters

>>29372156
eh i don't want to deal with putting a rail on top of it, ill just get a PTR with a rail already on it, plus most of the .308 i got is steel, Ive heard FAL cant eat steel for shit

>>29372190
>don't want to deal with a slide on part

I've heard of some lazy bastards before, but you really take the cake here, pal

>>29372207
well im not in love with e FAL and i really do like the G3 design

>>29372233
then why are you considering buying a gun you don't want?
especially when it's the same price as the gun you want?

>>29372421
fair enough, i was really just interested in either or not it was a good price, but i entertained the idea

>>29372447
you never did tell us the price

>>29372447
>>29372447
899 is what it was listed for, but i know the guy so i could work it down

>>29372470
>>29372506

>>29372506
too much desu fampai
they used to sell for $600 on FAL files AFTER the Great Habbedig of 2013

>>29339066
It isnt select fire. The Garand is a semi-auto rifle

>>29372580
>My trigger finger is my select fire.

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>>29372618
Half speed maybe

>>29372086
BR is full-size cartridges only, SKS is in with the AK/AR crowd

Alright, brg. I just bought my first FAL, and the previous owner had done a krylon OD job on it, but I didn't like it that much. So, I did my best to remove it with assorted solvents (paint thinner, mineral spirits, MEK, Brake Cleaner, you name it), but no matter how hard I scrub, the parkerizing still has a slight tinge of OD Green in it.

What can I do to unfuck my rifle, guys?

>>29373838
>the parkerizing still has a slight tinge of OD Green in it.
Some park just looks that way, like a lot of US milsurp for example.

>>29373909
I feel compelled to agree, but it looks like the park has a bunch of tiny little dots of green in it when I inspect it closely. Is parkerizing supposed to be porous or something? Is the paint IN the finish?

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heres a schmexy little m14 for you in theee archangel stock

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Heres another m14 ebr.
Aesthetic as fuk
Inb4 heavy as shit

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>>29374005
>>29374024

>>29374024
You've got a strange definition of aesthetic.

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>>29374024
>foregrip
>holding the rifle by the magazine
>E-5

>>29374337
i'm a performance artist

>>29374337
Im curious how the locals are growing corn in what appears to be a fucking desert.

>>29371997
see
>>29371928

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>>29372086
>assault weapon
>says it twice
STOOP. That's a made up word that's worse than saying "NIGGER!" while pissing on obama's coalblack daughters ontop of MLK's grave in full clan attire.

There are assault RIFLES though, which is a military term. Assault weapons is a kill yourself term though used only by dumb niggers in the media to fear monger and try to get a broader scope of weapons considered "ebil scary military guns."

Stop.

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>>29342572
No.

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>>29370036
also say that to my face you wish you could cradle two battle raifus at the same time let alone afford them

>>29376403
>spending a whole day making a picture just to respond to an insult
>tripfaggots
>also still a weak bitch
lol

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>>29376449
i made it for redit actually thank u doe m8

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Rule Britannia!

>>29337607
>>29337612
I guess OP should have used "service rifle," since the first actual "battle rifle" was the M14.

>>29374407
Donkey and maybe human shit makea the corn grow. You get the water from a well.

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>>29376459
>i made it for redit

>if true, you're worthless garbage
>if lying, you're worthless garbage

I really don't know what you were expecting.

Stay mad.

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My faves

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Rule Britannia 2.0!

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>>29376583
no
>>29376570
u2

>>29371883

Theres a company that makes ARs in 30-06, hella expensive though

New thread.
>>29377084
>>29377084
>>29377084
New thread.