/akg/ AK General

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Centruy Arms M70 ABM

>>29318165
That bayonet mount Mmm

>>29317729
Hey VAfag, I got my mags. Thanks again.

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Ak107 with zenitco

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Looks like the same handguard that Russian who died in Syria had

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You can see the divots in the barrel for dimpling the fsb

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Virgin trunnion

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>>29317729
>Non-standard Caliber Edition

>>29318751
Huh those trigger guards look weird, not all squared in the rivet area like the normal ones Ive scene. Also I wonder how the Slavs head space and do their builds the bolt and bolt carriers are not with the rifles themselves.

>>29318787
The Russian started using the rounded and clover shaped guard at some point, most saigas have the clover.

Somewhere I saw a video of them setting headspace in the Izhmash plant

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You will find that sometimes earlier parts will be on later guns. (I swear they must find boxes of random parts and decide to use them)

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I need more ammo

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>>29317729
Hello /akg/,

I'm so glad to have a reason to post here again. I have been working on specs for a 45-70 AK pistol/SBR thing. The main idea was making a semi-auto bullet thrower that could also throw .410. Second purpose was to make it companion well with a revolver that could shoot the same.

As I went on, I found that a .460 S&W/.410 3" shells (that I believe are actually 2.7~, off the top of my head) would be the best for reliable feeding. And the .460 might work in the various .410 AK magazines that already exist, but I think the relatively short length of the other .45 rounds (Colt, Schofield, ?ACP?) will need magazines of their own, which I think can be made from the same .410 magazines still.

Now I already had a good heap of help from QTD, but I need specific opinions from you all; what AK would be the best base for this, or will it be so cut up that it doesn't matter?

I am currently thinking a x54R Vepr would be best, likely all keeping parts are well able to withstand the pressures of the new rounds, and this one already is used to feeding rimmed rounds. I had of course considered a .410 AK first, but decided they are too lightly built to trust, even if the dimensions are much closer to what I think I'll need.

Now I know people have sorta done this before, in 45-70 only. Pookie from gunnet has had evidence of his attempt removed, but I'd love some advice for this increasingly monumental task. Well monumental to me.

I have access to some of the best gunsmithing equipment in North America.

>>29318302
Glad to hear that.
Happy with the results?

>>29319021
More concisely, what:
>barrel should/can I get that'd work best
>is the minimum barrel length that'd function
>barrel length do you recommend

If any of you think a platform besides the AK would be better, please explain. I did consider an AR, but it does not seem DI style systems work well for semiauto shotguns. It seems a piston is needed to handle the wide pressure variations. Would the AK beable to handle this? .460 S&W straight to .410 000? I would like to not have to fiddle with gas adjustments to make both work, I want to keep the operation simple as fuck.

Is $1200 alright for an Arsenal krinkov in 5.45? I don't expect prices to drop ever, frankly, and it may just be best to get it out of the way.

WASR?

>>29318961

that place looks nice anon it reminds me of when I went to Montana

>>29319021
I would say start with a .410 saiga if for nothing else ideas/stealing parts from it. I'm not familiar with what kind of pressure 45-70 has but im assuming you'll need a thicker barrel then a shotgun.

Maybe steal a 12 ak trunnion and make up the difference in size between.410 and 12 in barrel thickness


>>29319093
Hope mine get here Monday I wanna go shoot.

>>29319131
Yes I paid $1300 for mine and it's cheaper then a 74u kit

>>29319589
Well I am going with the much high pressure .460 S&W which is the rimmed version of .45 Raptor.

Again, the only reason it to get the dual utility of that large .45 and .410.

>>29319589
Hopefully they should.

>>29319612
After a little Googling

If I was going to do it

.410 saiga bolt
Yugo front trunnion
Custom 18" barrel "not sure how duel caliber guns work but for a shotgun it's 18" min"
For the gas system I'd do a rotating two position switch, one for setting .410 and the other .460. (Start with a small gas hole getting bigger till you find what's reliable.
Yugo/RPK style 1.5mm receiver
Saiga .410 mags

Rest of it whatever you like

>wish I had a machine shop

>>29319793
Technically you could rifle the bore and then it would only have to be 16 inches.

Also, I remember someone mentioning shipping a rifle to another person in the same state a few threads back. Does anyone remember the specific document the person cited? I think it was Chimps

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>>29319744
Got mine in yesterday.
Thanks VAfag.
They are in pretty good shape for the used condition.

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>>29319826
And after the initial cleaning.
A few more treatments and they'll be good as new.

>>29319820
Ahh, kinda like how the judge is 45lc but happens to fit .410


It was chimps who was talking about it, I've never heard it was illegal but most people don't seem to do it
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/whom-may-unlicensed-person-transfer-firearms-under-gca

>>29319829
What are you using to treat them?>>29319859
Thanks

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>>29319874
>Ancient chinese secret
But really, Neutrogena fragrance free body oil.

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>>29319793
>>29319820
>>29319859
>kinda like how the judge is 45lc but happens to fit .410

There is absolutely no legal requirements for my barrel length because I am planning to make it a pistol or SBR.

I definitely plan to use a rifled barrel, the toughest I can find and IDGAF that shooting .410 shot out of it ain't some people's idea of ideal.

My questions about barrel length >>29319104 have more to do with functionality. How short can I go with an AK shooting 000 and stil cycle reliably? Does it matter at all?

I am still thinking of this as a 300m rifle at best, like the AK. I know you can actually do more with the .460 and maybe I'll get some glass or even a combonation-creedmoor to take advantage of that, but at the end of the day I only NEED to blast stuff reliably with the bullet rounds at intermediate distances (coyote, maybe some deer), and the .410 is for real close stuff. Snakes, maybe some bird, maybe even some of the coyote that are all up in my business on the farm.

This is a farm/truck gun by the way.

>>29317653
Duh? >>29314286
>>29318189
What you really feel is the bolt slamming back and forth. As well as the "ka-blam" of the compensator/brake.

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>come to akg
>ask about what is the best brake for akm
>"ak74 style brake anon"
>install ak74 brake on my ak
>post it
>that s haram anon

I m confus

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>>29320182
Again, that's not a legit AK74 brake. It's some murrigaco fake-brake that only looks barely like the real deal.

AK74 brake belongs on 5,45 AKs with a 90* gas block, AKMs should have a slant brake, or just some birdcage type

>>29320199
>AK74 brake belongs on 5,45 AKs with a 90* gas block
>what is ak-100 series

as for >>29320182 does that brake how holes like actual 74 style brakes have?

>>29317729
what caliber is this?

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>>29318301

>>29320220
Well yeah, if it was an 103 then cool stuff.
His hooded FS + fake 74 brake + 45deg GB combination looks wonky to me though. Might be the purist in me

>>29320226
7,92x57 IS judging by the MG-13 magazine

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>>29320228
to be completely honest, that also my make my purism tick

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>>29320241
I really want black furniture and a black Bulgarian 74 bayonet..

>>29320265
i want black russian one and those ak-103 polymer mags

>>29319826
How much did you pay, friend?

>>29320234
muh dik

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ny rig

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why arent there more like these

>>29320265
I really want a full auto AK. You appear to already have one.

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>>29320704
:^)

>>29320779
god damn that gives me a boner

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>>29320795
Aroused over seeing some metal thingamajigs inside a scary salt riful? You need some help

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>>29319093
Oh yeah. They look better than I expected. I'll get some pictures taken at some point.

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>>29320199
>5,45
>,
Haha it thinks it's opinion matters fucking non American purist shit

>>29319093
>>29320977
Resident /k/ mag pusher or what?
Can you hook a yuro up with some 74 mags?
>>29321013
:'((((

>>29320182
>>post it
>>that s haram anon
>I m confus

It's a shitty copy, that's why. It's not a legit one that will actually benefit you. I'm actually going to advise you not to bother with a true AK74-style brake and get something made in the current century that works better.

I wanted one too, until I found out there are devices that work better for equal or less money.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79JK2asXpTQ&list=PLb711dtKBi0phWJXwLWxbzjVgNCIIm1wp

>>29320199
>AK74 brake belongs on 5,45 AKs with a 90* gas block
I was agreeing with you and then you had to turn on your "retard" mode by saying this. There are 7.62 versions of the same brake that aren't shitty copies.

>>29320199
>AKMs should have a slant brake
Eat me.

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>>29320220
Yes it does i don t see how people are judging it because it s a copy...

>>29321376
>i don t see how people are judging it because it s a copy...

Most of the copies don't work for shit. That's why.

>>29321031
VAFag did a run for murricans. Get in contact with a Ukrainian or Russian willing to make some cash.

anyone know where to get some 5.45 10 round mags that aren't tapco?

>>29321537
Saiga or vepr mags.

>>29321556

but where google yields no results

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>>29321571
Krebs custom has them listed for cheeap

I just ordered two sets

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>>29321376
those holes seem off...

found these:
http://www.saigastock.com/saiga-545-10round-magazine-p-6502.html

are they legit surplus ones? they have 5.45x39 marked on them and the izhmash logo is weird

>>29321603

oh cool thanks. im not trying to spend $40 on some 10 rd mags anyways

>>29321624
That's because they aren't surplus. They're commercial.

>>29321521
>VAFag did a run for murricans.

Well shit, guess I missed out on that one.

VAFag, got any plans to do that again? What price per mag did you sell them for?

Do new production WASR 10s have cast or forged trunnions?

>>29319021
>.410 AK
why
>.45-70 AK
why

The .410 shotgun shell is already an answer in search of a question and honest to God I don't know why it exists. It was created to be an extra-challenge "handicap" for really skilled skeet shooters and I'm still astonished that enough such people existed even then to buy enough ammo to justify tooling up to manufacture it. Now? What do you want to do with it, exactly? What is the purpose?

.45-70? I can dig the idea of throwing big blobs of heavy metal from a semiauto rifle but we already have cartridges specifically designed for that. Look into .458 SOCOM and .50 Beowulf. And for cartridges like those, you might possibly even need the extra strength and mass of an RPK type receiver, or even a milled receiver.

>>29321995

I don't have one to look at but IIRC they're forged

>>29319104
The basic sort of concept has been done on other receivers. Tim LaFrance--yes, THAT Tim LaFrance--was converting M1 Carbines to .45 Winchester Mag 25+ years ago. .45 Winchester Magnum is a stretched .45 ACP case with a thicker web, giving .44 Magnum-ish ballistics from various big gas-operated Automag wannabees like the Wildey, back in the 80s, and was supposedly knocking on the door of 2000 fps out of 16" barrels with a 250gr bullet. Which isn't quite 45-70 territory but I sure wouldn't stand in front of it.

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>>29322019
You really didn't bother reading at all, but wrote two paragraphs of complaints.

What's wrong witchu?

>>29319021
there is already .410 saiga

>>29322070
Seriously. I'm asking.

What is the purpose for this build? What exactly do you want to do that is best done with a twelve pound semiauto firearm that uses the little pissant .410 shotgun shell? Are you doing industrial sandblasting with using lead pellets, or something?

Somebody explain it to me.

>>29322079
I want to have a gun that shoot .460 S&W, plus all lesser .45s (which is all of them). I also want to be able to put .410 into the same rifle as easily as changing magazines.

The slug options in .410 are terrible compared to even a good .45 Colt, not to mention .454 or .460. I want one gun that can do everything I'd want aroudn the farm without me having to handload all my own ammo. I could easily just go with the standard .45-70 AK builds that have been done and hand load some buckshot/duplex loads into the .45-70 brass, but that's a bitch to have to do all the time, and doesn't let me fool around with all the interesting .410 offerings.

Also, .45-70 and .410 have a very intertwined history and relationship, you should look it up before you say most of what you've said already.

Again, I said that I ended up deciding on .460/3" instead anyway, so why you complaining about 45-70?

>inb4 lol i troll u

>>29322141
Fair enough, I suppose.

I just don't get the appeal of the .410 cartridge. It's questionable on rabbits and squirrels past powder-burn range, and even coyotes deserve something better--something with more power and range that can kill them humanely. I can see a 20 gauge with buckshot or plated lead BB shot as being suited for killing coyotes around the ranch. A .410? Maybe not so much, unless you are typically close enough to bludgeon them to death with it.

>>29322079
>twelve pound
A vepr in 54R with the standard barrel is about 8-9 pounds. I think that an AK built around that but with a shorter (he says he wants pistol/SBR lengths) barrel and much light mags/ammo is going to be fairly light mang.

Infact, hunting handgun calibers are already a good direction for AK pistols. Since the can actually make use of the weight. Combine that with the utility that .410 (and all dem .45 ammo choices), you got a good knock around gun.

I personally get a woody for guns that are unspecialized. Soo this is like crack for my cock.

>>29322070
>What's wrong witchu?

He's a perfect product of modern society: Bitch about what you don't understand.

>>29322192
.410 isn't so bad, especially out of barrels longer than the 3" Judge.

When it comes to rifled barrels and .410, I think people expect it to do the same thing that larger gauge buctshot rounds do in rifled barrels. That is, the cup picks up a spin from the rifling and slings that shot like a mad cunt as soon as it exits the barrel, creating a rapind spread. .410 000 is ball on top of ball, and much more like a duplex round. I'm not saying the rifling doesn't do things to it, but it isn't a death sentence. It does still have a fairly short range of course, but that could be a perk.

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>>29317729
Any reason 556 wouldn't just be considered a standard caliber now days as countries have been switching over?
On a side note, got some tracers to play with today. It should be fun to watch them fly at the 400 yards steel.

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>>29319589
>it's cheaper then a 74u kit

:^)

>>29322738
what serial on that bayonet?

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>>29322515

That's a Romanian LPS scope like mine, right?

How did you zero it? I realized today that I have no idea how I'm supposed to set it up for 7.62x39.

I may just wing it and get it as good as I can at 100m.

>>29321788
Potentially. The interest is there but the guy I bought from hasn't responded in a week
At any rate, my throw away /k/ email is [email protected]. email me if you still want to buy mags so I can keep track of who all wants them

>>29322832
you always zero for 300m.... (or was it 325m?)

As to using it for further shots, 7.62x39 drops like a brick after 330m, so just set up a target at 400m and shoot at it until you figure out where you gotta hold over on the lower chevrons.

https://www.k-var.com/shop/AK-332CL.html

Will these Steyr Barrels work with a soviet era akm with a 45 degree gas block?

Having a Steyr barrel on my Tula build would be the bees knees

>>29322849
sent

>>29322872
>you always zero for 300m

>7.62x39 drops like a brick after 330m
Right... I'm not going to try to reach farther than that..

>set up a target at 400m
Fucking hell, I don't have that kind of distance. I guess this fucker will go back in my closet for a while.

>>29322886
>Not pre-drilled for gas chamber.
you tell me.... and its a bulgarian profile.

>>29322948
you could try to figure out mathematical ratios/complements of 5.45 turrets and 7.62 drop, and where to set the 5.45 turret for a 7.62 100yd zero, and if that is too low, then figuring out how to use the 25m ak47 zero sight in target. but that is too much headache for me bub.

your scope, you gotta apply yourself. Theres a lot of ways to skin a goat, you gotta figure it out for your sheep.

>>29322956
Is this claasic bulgarian profile different from the Russian?

>>29322983
>5.45 turrets
Mine is meant for a 7.62x54r PSL rifle, not a 5.45.

>>29322983
>Theres a lot of ways to skin a goat
I could rough-ass it, like work a 100m or 200m zero and then set the scope a little bit lower.

>>29323016
>then set the scope a little bit lower.
unless you figure out the correlating distance and setting, you will end up with a scope that is zeroed at one distance, with no turret adjustments being accurate.

if thats a 7.62x54r scope on a 7.62x39 rifle, you may have less of a headache.

>>29321031
I'm russian, can help you out with 74 mags easily at low prices. Interested?

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>>29317729
Where can I buy a real Izhmash AK-47, AKMS or AKS-74U? Like the ones Osama bin Laden had or pic related is holding.

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>>29323160
>ou will end up with a scope that is zeroed at one distance, with no turret adjustments being accurate.

I'm asking this question out of educated ignorance, I know more about the rifle than I do about putting a scope on it.

Does that matter? I think we're both well aware that the 7.62x39 round is most effective inside of 300m. I don't expect it to do what I want at any distance past that.

On top of that, I'm working with a fixed power scope which has the idiot-friendly common Soviet PSO reticle.

>>29322746
Its just some random mismatch Bulgarian bayo, 1570 on the sheath, 2988 on the handle.

>>29318717
Are those gas blocks floating? Are they plastic? Wtf am I looking at here?

>>29323611
They are wax castings for use in a investment casting setup, or at least that's what i think they are.

>>29318717
Are those going to be cast? Do I see some nice builds in my future?

>>29323648
I don't think those are zastas, pic looks to be from Russia for AK-100 series aks.

>>29323666
That's from the factory in Russia.

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>>29320363
Mein bruder

>>29323666
Yeah I noticed after I posted it. It would be nice if someone would make some nice clones parts of some of the rarer models

>>29320182
That's because you bought shitty one. Personally I'd have gone with a 14-1mm to 24mm adapter and then gotten one of the muzzle brakes that Arsenal uses on their SLR-107fr.

>>29320907
>>29320779
>>29320265
Are you an SOT/ that a post sample or are you not an American?

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>>29322832
Yup, romanian. I got a few when they were only around 100 bucks each.
I just set a target at 100 and zeroed it like normal, normally the 54r bdc marks on the top turret have followed pretty decently. At least that's the case on the rifles where I have it mounted higher with an actual rpk mount instead of the svd one.
I don't have too much experience on the rpk though, usually I'm using irons.
There's two zeros though, one for folded, one for bi-pod unfolded.

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I wish my front end was completed. :(

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Sunday Gunday fags, post them.

>>29324360
I shouldn't like this, but I do.

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>>29324375
What's not to like, comrade?

>>29324448
Your horrible instagram teir filter for one.

>>29324448
MOE furniture on an AK.

>>29324478
I'll agree with that one. Just get bored and play with pics every now and then.
>>29324685
There's nothing wrong with this furniture, though.

>>29324360
>>29324448

I'll give you shit for not using the MOE upper handguard. That little fucker was half the reason I got the handguards.

>>29324448
POS TWS.

Are RPD/RPK rear leaf sights worth the time and money or no?

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>>29324735
was the other half lower handguard?

>>29324802

Specifcally, putting shit ON the lower handguard. I don't like aluminum rail HG's.

>>29323214
>find parts kit
>buy it
>buy barrel
>buy reciever
>have it built by reputable company
>??????
>profit

>>29324767
Not really unless you like spending money

>>29324754
What's the issue with TWS? 250 rounds today with it and zero issues, even after closing and opening.

>>29324933
>Not really

I thought not.

>>29324934
try accidentally dropping your weapon during a drill or just leaning it against something.

They lose zero after being dropped. It's well documented.

the muzzle brake retaining pin on my WASR is stuck after I removed my muzzle brake. does anyone have any tips as to how I can get it out?

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>>29323841
Not American.

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Standard and Non Standard.

>'15 WASR-10 Mall Ninja Edition
> Arsenal SLR-106 FR

>>29325200
The Fagpul handguards are pretty cool until you see the FUCK UGLY front end. They look so damn shitty. Wish they looked just a little bit better..

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>>29324360
If you insist.

>>29323635
that would be lost wax casting actually.

/akg/, I need your help. I forgot to clean my SLR 104 last time I went out and noticed some surface rust so I started to break it down to do a detailed cleaning.

Long story short, my muzzle device won't budge, even using vice grips, wat do?

>>29325182
Oh fuck me where is that/you live? That looks beautiful.

>>29325017
But I did drop it, both intentionally and accidentally. And it held up just fine.

>>29325436
Soak the end in something to break up the rust after you clean up the rest of the rifle, then get something with more leverage. How big of vice grips are you using? Also just make sure that you're depressing the retainer/detent pin all the way.

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>>29324256
your pain is one that I know all too well fellow saigabro.

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>>29317729
Dear /AKG/

There are some real problems with the /ARG/ threads. Mods have not, for whatever reason, banned some obnoxious trips (who happen to be evading bans atm)

I'm wondering if some if you would like to partake in an /AWG/ - Assault Weapon General thread.

I'm hoping very few trips from /ARG/ will be inclined to follow. They seem satisfied dominating their own shitpile.

Maybe most importantly (muh board culture), this will be a great way to help educate each other about our respective platforms. Knowledge is half the battle amirite?

Lemme know what you think

Sincerely
distraught /k/omrade

>>29325575
No. Shut up.

Filter GC if you're that butthurt.

>>29325512
>How big of vice grips are you using?
About 8" and I'm depressing the detent with a small flat-head to make sure it is depressed all the way. That was my first thought, but after several failed attempts, I'm confident the carbon got in the threads and is locking the muzzle device.

I'll try soaking it, thanks for the advice.

>>29325213
I like it, honestly. I know most people say they like whatever bullshit they bought to try not to have buyer's remorse but I honestly think it's comfortable and easier to shoot for me, at least. I like the look of the MOE stock, but wasn't happy with the way it mounts to the rifle. It'll be swapped out for an M4 stock and Rifle Dynamics adapter soon enough, but the Zhukov guard will stay until I have dosh to throw down on Zenit front guard. (Already have the Zenit brake).

>>29325589
But he's half the thread

And the other half are just those telling him to fuck off

it's bad

>>29325575
No, fuck off. It will just turn into an obnoxious shit flinging contest like /brg/.

>>29325631
you run any kind of 4chan extension? if so, get one. then learn how to filter tripfags. it really helps.

>inb4 a slew of cockloving tripfags I have filtered try to respond to me

go for it fags. I'll never see you.

How are Bulgarian AKs, are they worth their price?

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>>29317729
Back to say hello

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>>29325657

>>29325637
I actually think it'd stay relatively civil

I know I'm just here for the gun porn

>>29325648
I do not - despite frequenting /k/ I'm still probably casual-tier. I know filters are probably only a few clicks away, but I never thought it'd actually be an issue

I mean I think I only saw one tripfag in here as I scrolled through

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>>29325670

>>29325182

oh you mean californian?

>>29325213

Are you saying you don't like the lip around the front end that's there to give you a mental check that your fingers are too close to a hot barrel?

>>29325596
Also go ahead and use a small c-clamp to make sure the detent is in all the way.

>>29325575
No.

I just bought a WASR 10/63 for $500. Came with 500 rds of tula and 4 mags; two steel and who plastic magpul.

Did I do good?

>>29325766
yep. shoot the fuck out of it and have fun!

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i'm sad i busted my shoulder skiing for the first time. not gonna be able to shoot for a while.

>>29325830
Perfect time to practice with your other arm.

>>29325852

actually that's not a bad idea, considering i'm cross-eye dominant.

>>29325874
There you go! Two birds, one stone and all that.
Also, that must suck, being cross eye dominant. I guess we norms take a lot for granite.

>>29325766
Yes that's a really good deal. New wasrs are $560+ and that ammo is worth about $130. Mags are $10-20 apiece as well. Nice catch anon, enjoy it

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>>29325484
I live on an island. The pic you quoted is from the closest city which is on the mainland
>>29325687
Yurop

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>>29325993
Most beautiful range location I know of to be honest.

Anyone use an M4 style stock on an AK? I kinda want to get one because I like a longer length of pull but don't want to spend the $100~ before I know if they are shit.

Are AK-74s common in the US?

>>29326022
I picked up a used WASR with the tapco AR style stock. Works great for a giant like myself. They also make NATO length AK stocks.

>>29326139
What is NATO length? I have the wooden stock that came with my WASR still.

>>29326159
1.5" longer than standard AK stock

>>29326119
5.45 AKM yes, SLR are very close, Saigas in 5.45

So my front sight post muzzle brake plunger is fucked. Can I still safely install a slant brake on this? It seems to tighten up pretty well even though the plunger is flush with the FSB.

>>29325651
>How are Bulgarian AKs, are they worth their price?

There are a lot of different shops that do Bulgarian builds, and there are different calibers, so you'll have to be more specific. But this will help

>SLR series- yes
>DDI- yes
>Lee Armory- not while DDI's are still in stock, but they are if you want a 5.45 under-folder.

>>29326203
Dunno how you would keep the slant orientated properly. I put some aluminum foil under my brakes to eliminate wobble..

>>29317729
Cool, I just shot my SAR 3 ak in 556, smooth as Barry White.

>>29326305
will it wobble that much when shooting? New to AKs

>>29320182
crapco brake is no good, get an authentic AK-100 brake

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Gunday Sunday? You're on.

This is the WASR I just bought, recent production with straight sights and neat round rivets. It's not visible in this photo but the muzzle device is a Tapco RPK flash suppressor clone, replacing the original slant brake.

I am currently scrounging for some takeoff laminated wood to put on it, because that blond birch is just too pretty for the beater I bought it to be.

>>29325993
>>29326005
What country?

>>29326381
yeah, that is some really nice looking furniture

you lucked out

>>29326381
AK-74 furniture will fit AKM's as an FYI. APEX usually has a nice selection.

just bought one of these bad boys to put on my Saiga.

anyone have one?

http://kalinkaoptics.com/rifle-scopes/posp-zoom/ak-vepr-saiga-slr/kom-2-10x48-illuminated-ls-reticle-scope-65mm-universal-ak-svd-mount.html

>>29326356
No more than the wobble on ARs. I have never used them so research a little on different mounting designs. AK AR buffer tube adaptor

>>29326356
>>29326203
Use a crush washer.

>>29326587
ok thanks for your help guys

>>29319924
Even your mags need to relax every now and then.

>>29320227
Reminds me of the AN mount

>>29322515
Every time, damn it Molot send us more


>>29322738
Jelly, now build it

>>29323201
Much mag very cheap

>>29323648
>>29323666
Wish I could make gasblocks

>>29325657
Cspec mag? Looks neat

>>29325830
You're not supposed to fall down haha


Hey chimps any idea if Chris Butler is still around and does the short leg y conversions?

>>29326305
>aluminum foil
how?

>>29327039
Is it ok to clean bakelite mags with regular clp or should I turn it into a sensual spa day as well?

>>29326444
pls respond

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>>29327468
no

>>29327311
I'm honestly not sure, my life with bakelite just recently started

>>29327468
Don't have one but it looks neat

>>29327039
No idea if he still does work.. People don't seem to talk about him much anymore.

Also, what the fuck is a short leg y conversion

>>29327498
Who makes that dust cover sight combo.

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>>29327522
Adding the y stamp to a saiga

Best hand guards and folding stock for a c39v2?

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If these rivets loosen up I don't know what the fuck to think about riveting.

I smashed the absolute shit out of these rivets.

Anyone have experience with such matters?

>>29327561
Couldn't tell ya. Think it might be a custom dust cover combo and gasblock combo. Pretty handy rifle really.

>>29327741
if you smashed the shit out of them and there's a good size head on each size, they shouldn't loosen

>>29327903
probably can't tell from the picture but the backside of that rivet is probably 2x normal size of a smashed tail

>>29326624
fix the fucking plunger

>>29320199
>>29321388
>>29321611

Where the fuck do I get an ak74 style brake that's not crapco/Ncstar and works?
Also fuckin' check'd

>>29327976
I will anon dont worry

>>29327576
I didn't know Chris butler did that. Ted Marshall did it but now he's all wrapped up in his Radom business so I don't think he's taking work. PoHF can also do it.

if I need to punch out the front FSP pin, will I have a problem punching it back into place?

>>29328168
You get an adapter and an arsenal brake.

>>29328168
http://www.k-var.com/shop/AK-140US.html

>>29328418
>>29328330
>>29328168

Soooo I kind of bought one of these the other day. How bad did I fuck up /akg/?

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/454837/tapco-ak-74-style-muzzle-brake-m14x10-lh-thread-ak-47-ak-74-steel-blue

I haven't shot the rifle yet with the new brake vs the slant that was on it, so no idea if it will actually help.

>>29328581
That brake works mostly through putting a quarter pound of steel at the end of the barrel, the arsenal brake works better without as much weight.

>>29328330
>>29328418
Thanks senpai

>>29327311
I don't think CLP will be good.
It has petroleum distillates in it, that'll dry them out and make them more brittle.
I started using that oil because this guy's write up on restoring bakelite.

http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=178777

It's what he used, and found to be very effective.
So I tried it, and I became a fast believer.

I've yet to find a mag or grip that needed the full steel wool treatment.
But he also over saturates the bakelite with oil, whereas I just give them a generous wiping with a blue shoptowel.

Then as it soaks in/evaporates over the next few days, hit it again and again until it's not absorbing any more wipe off the excess and reassemble.
Doesn't hurt any acceptance stamps either.

>>29327039
>Even your mags need to relax every now and then.
It's true.
They work hard for you and deserve a little pampering.

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While researching an eventual project I discovered what's been throwing me off about the AK9.

First look at this fabulous gentleman and see if you can spot something off about the dust cover

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>>29322515
No idea. You'd think 5.56 would do well in this nation. What kills it is the nonstandard mags, without a standardization they are proprietary. Plus they have traditionally been a poorfag's gun.

>>29326353
>SAR 3
nigga

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>>29329565
Now look at a regular AK

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>>29329587

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>>29329596
And AK9

>>29329596
ain't seeing it

>>29329565
Its a smooth dust cover.

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>>29329606
The rear sight block is shoved all the way back against the trunnion and cut to clear the bolt carrier

>>29329626
Oh damn, now I see it, wonder why they do that when they could have just designed new rear sight blocks.

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>>29329613
>>29329622
Line up the top handguard retainer divot

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Wood goes on everything.

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>>29329652
I have a theory about that

Because 9x39 is low pressure compared too 7.62 or 5.45 it has a gas block like the OTs-12

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That's why it has the weird look, I'm not sure why they all have no upper retainer.

The lower retainer is in front of the sight and held on by a suppressor mount/brake

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Only picture I've found of the mount

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it uses 20rd 9x39 marked mags like in this picture>>29329626

>>29329702
Why are there so many 9x39 Guns? AK-9, AS-Val, VSS, 9A-1, Ots-12(the best looking one to me) seems like just a prototype of course. And they half of them don't look like they take the same magazine (although I don't know why the cant use 47 mags, its the same case yes?)

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>>29325575
Just keep reporting. If you think it isn't getting to the right people, or that the janitor/mods are not knowledgeable about the board to know what is and is not OT then goto feedback and submit your concern.

People have actually fixed up their boards before, but it requires more than one or two posters to use the report button when applicable and sometimes it requires a few emails. Just don't be a cunt about anything, nobody wants to help a cunt.

And I don't think you were being a cunt in this post, just naive. Filter and/or Report things that break the rules. Most of your /arg/ friends are breaking more than one.

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>>29329689
Nice OPAP, but that bakelite grip looks odd on a Yugo.
Also get a real muzzle device and throw that tapco abomination in the trash.
I have this bulgarian comp on my OPAP, and it's great.

>>29329946
>chromelined brake on a non-chromelined barrel
It's like pottery

>>29329900
I'd guess different companies/design institutes trying to get their stuff adopted mostly

Tula Arms Plant

VSS
AS VAL
SR-3
OTs-11 (pretty much a aks74u also made by Tula)
OTs-14


KBP

VSK-94
9A-91


Izhmash

AK9

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Also found a rare bizon recently, this is one of two picture I have of this stock type

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>>29330056
also hard to see but it has a extended selector lever

This makes four types of stocks used or played around with on the pp19

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>>29330000
>non chromelined barrel
>yugo surplus 7.62x39 is corrosive

paps are literally the shittiest ak's hands down

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>>29325575
>assault weapons

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>>29330120
>Yugos have had no problem killing each other for decades with those non-chrome lined barrels and corrosive ammo
>This is now an issue here somehow

Ooh tell me the one about "improper heat treating" next anon.

So I'm gonna ditch my SLR105 in favor of a gun in 7.62.

Is a Draco/M92 a good option with a brace instead of getting a rifle length barrel? I'm having a hard time trying to decide which alternative I'd want to go with.

>>29330221
Why would you do that? And an arsenal for a draco none the less?

>>29330239
5.45 isn't readily available in my area and I think I'd prefer a gun in a more common caliber, especially if I can get one in a pistol/SBR configuration.

is there some special snowflake reason why I should stick with 5.45 over 7.62?

>>29330120

>"Emoji" plush
People are stupid.

>>29330221
Nigga what? How much are you trying to get for your SLR-105?

>>29330248
You can easily order the ammo online. It's still cheap and available. I mean seriously, if you buy stuff local you're already making a fool of your self. I mean with politics the way they're going both calibers will be hard to find for a while if ever again (if something gets passed).

>>29330251
I'm thinking $1000 would be a good place to start.

Should I keep it for some reason? besides the fact Arsenal doesn't make them anymore

>>29330262
I can get 7.62 locally for like a cent or two more expensive than online, and I'm all about that instant gratification. That doesn't stop me from buying online if the price is right.

Part of it is the fact I've got my AR15 and 5.56 and 5.45 are pretty comparable rounds. Either consolidating down to one caliber (5.56) or going to a readily available local caliber (7.62) doesn't seem like a terrible idea.

but of course y'all can roast my ass pham if I'm totally wrong and should keep with what I've got

>>29330292
>Should I keep it for some reason? besides the fact Arsenal doesn't make them anymore
The thing will only increase in value. Sit on a crate of ammunition, preferably 7n6, and just wait a few decades. If you want, sell it then.

>>29330292
You can never have too many guns.
Add to your collection if you want, but selling guns is something you don't do.

>Two things a man never sells; guns and land.

>>29330318
Well, sell one if it's completely redundant (like if you have an old production WASR and a new-production one.

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>>29330292
/k/omrad you're drunk, keep your Arsenal. Order bulk 5.45 and just stock it up. I have a WASR and I am trying to stock up on 7.62 but I also like to shoot a lot, so I understand what you mean, sometimes I just want to buy a hundred rounds or so around the corner just to go plinking but nobody near me carries 7.62. So I got an SLR-106 because we have an AR and reload 223 anyways, so it just made sense.

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>>29330333
Now my WASR has a friend

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>>29330318
Me and my fiance just had a baby, so selling to get an extra couple hundred wouldn't hurt in the slightest.

>>29330333
and yeah, I love to shoot. I got 500 rounds when I first got the gun and was able to blow thru it all in like two months. I've currently got like 120 rounds.

Sometimes my local Academy gets 5.45 but they want $.31/rd and I have a hard time trying to justify it.

buying in bulk sucks too because I'd rather spend a little bit of money here and there to slowly increase my stock.

guess I get to go back to the drawing board to rethink all of this.

>>29330363
WOW A WHOLE 500 ROUNDS IN TWO MONTHS!!!

>>29330367
with school and work I usually get lucky to make two trips a month

I was primarily shooting 5.56 and .22LR on two of the outings

>>29330375
Jesus fuck, just save up and order online.

>>29330387
So then this leads me to part of the reason why I'm considering a different caliber

5.45 or 7.62?

>>29322019
A .50 Beowulf AK exists and I've seen it. It's a one-off built on a Yugo 5.56 kit.

>>29329946
It's a CNCWarrior Type 74 brake. It's less shitty than a tapco brake. I like the bakelite grip. Fits way better in my hand than the Balkan war surplus grip did as well.

>>29330331
Fair enough, redundancy liquidation is slightly ok.

>>29330363
>Me and my fiance just had a baby, so selling to get an extra couple hundred wouldn't hurt in the slightest.

Sell your holes, sell you semen, sell your blood.
Don't sell your rifle.
You will regret it.
>So will your unborn child

Haven't you read all the kommandos stories of how their father had a bunch of cool guns he sold when they were born?
And how bad they feel about not having those heirloom rifles and pistols?
>But muh AR
Don't be that kind of dad.

>>29330425
>Don't be that kind of dad.
This. My grandfather had a ton of cool shit before he remarried to a anti-gunner cunt of a woman when he moved back to California. He had about 40+ rifle, shotguns, and handguns that he had to get rid of. The only stuff he had left was a DP-51, Glock 27, and a Winchester 670. Truly unfortunate.

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>>29330425
but muh AR

I love that gun so much

also there's no telling if my daughter will or will not like guns, but I guess that's what having a future son is for.

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>>29330449
>also there's no telling if my daughter will or will not like guns
That's really up to you now isn't it?

this will sound really dumb but should i get the arsenal slr or the century wasr 10? i wanted the plum color but they have the black side folding slr for 999. i'm not sure how often they get restocked. i kinda only want the wasr 10 because i really like the wood furniture, and it's cheaper. i'll pretty much only be using it for indoor range shooting and if the babadook comes in the house.

>>29330463
you'd be surprised.

just because you try to force something down someone's throat doesn't mean they're going to like it, especially a child.

>>29330467
Both are good choices, for very different reasons.
If you get the WASR, you can spend the remainder you would have spent on the Arsenal on mags and ammo.
If you get the Arsenal, you get a top notch rifle with a factory sidefolder and a lot of room to tacticool it properly (ZenitCo).

Both will serve your purpose of light range duty and dindu protection, so pick whichever one speaks to your tastes.

>Then grab the other one when you have the funds.

>>29330472
Just tell her she can't have it, and watch how fast she wants it.
>She'll be slav-squatting before she can walk.

>>29330529
I chuckled

but what anon here >>29330502 said is a driving factor too. going to something cheaper would give me some extra money to spend on ammo in which I could keep a decent stock of it in reserve.

guess I'm gonna hunt around for some 5.45 ammo deals

>>29330363

I only make it to the range once every two or three months. I had three new guns when I shot last Tuesday, only put about 40 rounds through each of them. I also shot my 1911 and A1 clone a bit.

I've got guns that I have not shot in years, I don't think I have shot my M1 carbine for over five. Meanwhile I keep buying mags and ammo and I'm gonna die old and alone and my nieces are going to sell all my shit for a lot less than it's worth.

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>>29330545
Both the samefag, tripfriend.
It's your prerogative to do what you want.

You can always make more money, but you can't necessarily buy back guns you've gotten rid of.

New additions to your family whether they're flesh and blood or wood/polymer and steel always cost money, but heirlooms can only be had once.

>Remember that all heirlooms were once new or readily attainable at one point too.

What do I know though?
Do what you feel is necessary to your specific situation.

>>29330711
well goddamn

I always wish I would've kept my VZ2008

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>>29330721

>>29330467
I have both. I honestly love my WASR and it's more fun to shoot for some reason, maybe it's because it was my first, or maybe because it's just like a cheap whore. It's a great value as long as you get a good example and don't pay too much for it. 650 out the door is the absolute most to pay today, and even that's about 100 too much.

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>>29327039
>send us more
I know, I'm surprised they haven't yet. I wouldn't think it would be too much to ask to import a 545 and 762 model as well.
>>29322515
Update on the tracers, it was really fun when they hit my steel. Very visible puffs of smoke for 400 yards, might drive out there tomorrow with the camera and see what marks they left.
80 left, so I'll probably save the rest for dusk another day. They're kindof hard to see in daylight, especially for the shooter even when I threw optics on just to try to see them better.

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Hmmm

>>29317729
greeting /akg/ can someone please give me a few poorfag links? i really have a soft spot for these rifles what would you recommend to a poorfag?

>>29331401
Obviously a WASR.
>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1g8su7r_bOmr7Zlg7Me6PPOdRR2ycSfRzFlRDKMGQnG4/mobilebasic?pli=1

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>>29331630
>Still pushing that garbage google doc
Anon pls.
It's filled with half assed "info" and way more than a few poor opinions stated as facts.

>>29331401
As for you; lurk for awhile, gain some insight.
>And pic related.

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>>29331665
I only post it because it does have some decent information inside of it. It more or less made me less nervous about what I was buying.
I won't preach this thing to be the bible, but it does help for a starter until you know what you're doing.
To each their own.

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>>29331173
>>29331174
Zasta, you think you can put together a megashare or dropdox and make a dump?
I am fuckin dying for all of your content.

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>>29331630

>>29331710
Fair enough.
But it has very biased info.
And to some newbie it might seem like gospel.
We can't condone that.

GunWebsites has started a AK buyers guide site, but it's still in its infancy.
Hopefully some of our knowledgeable folks will spend a little of their time and contribute over there.

http://ak47buyersguide.com/index.php/Buyers-Guide

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sav_0F_d_6Q

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>>29317729

I think my next riffle will be one of those black Romanian PSL builds that have the bayonet lug and AK stock. Seems like a solid concept. Not sure how common they were. Saw some ads from a few year back for around 800 doubt they are under 1200 now.

>>29331173
>>29331174

Got any that aren't shit quality?

>>29331787
Little fold marks here and there, but that's pretty fuckin good for a diagram.

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>>29331797
>that's pretty fuckin good for a hand drawn diagram
Ftfy, anon

>>29331817
Yeah, that does fit better desu.
There are a lot of times when I want to reference 2d views of a weapon
and all I can get is shit tons of exploded and isometric views.

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>>29326405
I'm sure you can guess

>>29319874
I just use imperial dragon sesame seed oil alot cheaper and works great.

>>29331976
I'd like to see some of your mags/bakelite.

That seems like a less expensive alternative, but like the guys who claim mineral oil will "do the same thing", I'd like to see a few examples.

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Just stroke my pistons up.

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>>29332064
0000 steel wool light sanding. A few drops on the mag and rub in and wipe off with an old T-shirt. Only put one coat on them.

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>>29332235
my bakelite looks this and i've nothing to them. should i?

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>>29332235
Not too bad.
But with the steel wool, any stamps are bound to get scoured off.
I try to just restore including stamps, so I take the longer route.
Nice work though.

>>29332276
Do it! In the Asian food section like 5 dollars a bottle plus you can cook with it as a bonus.
>>29332301
My stamps on are the other side. They are fine I very lightly sanded just to get the crud off em and avoiding the stamps.

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This is what the bottle looks like.

Anyone have an East German AKM barrel for sell?

Looking to get my autist on.

hey guys im having trouble getting the plunger unstuck on my WASR. I'm trying to get the FSP pin out so i can pry out the plunger, but the pins dont seem to budge no matter how hard I hit. I dont wanna fuck something up by canting my FSP or bending my barrel. Any tips?

>>29325132
Use a hammer and punch to knock out the front pin on your FSB. That pin retains the muzzle detent

>>29325436
>inb4 he's trying to loosen it by turning it left.

Is the RAS 47 any good or should I get a N-PAP

>>29333286
How hard do I have to hit it?

Also, just to be sure, I hit it from the side of the charging handle and they come out the side of the scope rail right? Do I have to hit it pretty hard? I tried before and I was worried about knocking something out of alignment.

>>29325766
WASRs are good.

Tula is the worst 7.62x39 out there. It's serious dogshit. Underpowered, inconsistent, dirty.

Plink with it, whatever. But when you sight the gun in (PROTIP: sight the damn gun in, Google "AK 25/200 battle sight" to get a rundown on the easiest way to do it reliably) make sure you do it with better ammo like Golden Tiger or Silver Bear or even American brass-cased stuff.

>>29333322
RAS 47
>NO

>>29333322
No to both. Get a WASR.

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>>29333356
>That shit is shit buy this even shittier shit

>>29326203
>plunger is flush with the FSB.

Is there not a spring behind the detent pin? You can get those for basically no money and it's pretty easy to knock the FSB pin out with a hammer and punch to fix...

That said, I have a buddy whose muzzle detent plunger was missing for whatever reason. He basically filed metal off his brake until it sat correctly when torqued down as hard as he could. Then he loctited the threads and called it a day.

Personally I would fix the gun but you CAN work around the problem too.

>>29333354
What about the C39 or is it still century shit.

>>29333386
yeah I am trying to punch out the front pin but im having trouble. I'm not sure how hard to hit it and im terrified of fucking something up.

>>29327711

>Best hand guards and folding stock for a c39v2?
A WASR

>>29333391
for the price of a C39 you can get a DDI which is a whole league above the C39

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>>29326203

There's probably a bunch of gunk in the plunger channel. I would drift out the pin and clean it out.

>>29333386

The first time I shot my second home build the pin holding the plunger disappeared, lost the plunger but the spring stayed in the hole.

>>29333391
If the parts didn't originate from an Eastern European country avoid.

>>29333419
This is true

>>29318961
Desierto?

>>29330656
maybe write down how much its worth so they don;t fuck up?

>>29333464
Nah I'm white and American

>>29333335
The pins aren't tapered, you can knock them out from either side. Just use the right sized punch and nothing will move, as you're not fucking with the rear pin at all.

>>29333422
Probably what happened then is the FSB was drilled either too low or crooked and the plunger wasn't hooking the pin like it should.

I had an NPAP with that pin drilled crooked. I had to widen the hole and put a bigger pin in there to make the plunger and the pin connect correctly.

>>29333379
You shouldn't comment if you have no idea what you're taking about.

>>29333534
ok will do. This is what I get for impulse buying the $400 wasr at an auction

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>>29331741
I could probably do that sometime. last night I was actually sorting some of my picture folders

As a Californian is Atlantic Firearms the only real choice for online orders. Also anyone in San Bernardino know any good FFLs that will do transfers for cheap.

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>hurr durr I know you said you wanted the rail riveted on but I couldn't figure out how so I put screws in there

If I wanted screws I'd say I want screws and wouldn't give you the fucking rivets you fudd hack god damn it.
Eh, fuck it, 74MP isn't even era correct for it anyway. Still, he could have at least asked.