/akg/ AK General

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Milled is life

>>29297233
where the fuck did u find a sar3?

>>29298239
Local pawn shop traded me for my PSA freedom AR kit gun

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Today, I will remind them.

I am thinking of switching to one of those mustard colored Soviet Ak slings, my current one sucks.

>>29298274
are u that finnish /k/ommando

>>29298289
nope, also not a Valmet or Sako if that's what you're thinking.

>>29298274
golani?

what's the best kinda 7.62x39 to feed my fun?

>>29299055
just do whatever man

>>29299055
Golden Tiger

How do you faggots feel about the sam7fs

>>29299131
Hate that stock so much

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Milled is heavy. Heavy is reliable.

>>29298415
yes

>>29299176
Why do you hate the stock?

I haven't held one, but to me it looks more comfortable than most of the metal folders we see on the AK. Is it just that it looks more like a Galil stock, or...?

>>29299226
b-boris?

Why is /akg/ so /comfy/? Is it the lack of cancer?

>>29298196
who are you and what do you do that you get access to all these rare firearms?

>>29299726
other generals are circlejerks about who can put the most money into their rifles. /akg/ is all about rare stuff and craftsmanship.

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>>29297899

>>29299055
I like Yugo M67.

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got some "new" bakelite mags today,no sign of wear that i noticed

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>>29300020

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>>29300025
no i have enough mags to do this

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Just got a Saiga in 223, can you guys recommend some magazines?

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I've currently been enjoying my SLR105. While 5.45 is a cool round, the only cost effective option for buying ammo is in bulk online.

If I were to jump ship, would you recommend going to 7.62 or 5.56? 5.56 would be nice as I could consolidate rifle calibers.

I had a WASR before and 7.62 wasn't too shabby itself, I just much prefer the 5.45/5.56 aesthetic

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>>29298160
One of those waffen werks milled ak74's they made before going out of business

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From a dead Russian soldier in Syria.

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>>29299660
It just feels odd for me to use and the stock block/extension thing bugs the crap outta me.

>>29299821
a nobody, idk just like neat things and spend too much time searching the net.

>>29299951
I had no idea that existed

>>29300025
nice stamps

>>29300029
<3 AK


>>29300044
always jelly of the original 74y

>>29300181
Izhmash keeps you on your toes. Every time you think you've seen it all..

>>29300216
that guy on instagram has some neat shit

>>29300236
who is that guy anyway?

>>29300247
I buy shit from him off the files. Real nice guy.

>>29300141
There were infantry casualties? Wasn't it just an air bombing campaign?

>>29300080
Hey check your email bro, I sent you a message last night.

>>29300385
Russia had troops on the ground

>>29300141
does anyone else get really angry/sad seeing stuff like this? This picture and the one of the dead guy in Africa with the MP7. Just seems.. morbid and anger inducing that someone died and people strip them of their gear. Additionally, now all that gear and that gun is probably the trophy of some kebab

>>29301335
I know how you feel

>>29300236
I'm having heart palpitations checking out this guy's insta right now

No one man should have all those mags

>>29301335
I feel like if I were in that situation I would take his gear too.
But then again being the sentimental fuck that I am, I'd also give him a proper burial and leave dog tags/personal effects on top of the grave marker.

>>29299226
I've been considering selling my SAM7 since I bought a SLR.

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>>29300044
>East German sbr

>>29301414
>I'd also give him a proper burial and leave dog tags/personal effects on top of the grave marker.
Or you could put him in a body bag, makeshift or otherwise, and send his body to his nation's embassy, assuming we're talking about a conventional force. If it were insurgents, I'd just leave them where they fall.

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Balken, gunna build an ak74 next.

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Anyone have any experience with Polish milsurp mags? Good to go or what?

>>29301522
Poles make good stuff. Bad decisions sometimes, but good stuff.

>>29301522
G2g not as nice as the new ones in wrappers I bought off the files but functional and aesthetically pleasing.

>>29301522
Some of the best

>>29301535
>>29301562
>>29301569

Cool thanks.

Anybody know were to get decent 74 mags at the moment ?

>>29301301
my bad. my fiance was getting induced today so I'm up at the hospital currently

>>29301700
Copes has some Polish polymer and steel for $30 per. That's about as good as you're going to do for now.

>>29301762
It's all good man.

>>29298274
Jon is that you

>>29300385
There was some pretty heavy fighting when Russia went to recover its downed SU-24 pilot. Maybe it's from there.

>>29301842
Literally who

>>29302878
Fun fact - This was the first appearance of Kalashnikov rifles in movies
>Maкcим Пepeпeлицa is the film

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>>29302902
Maksim Perepelitsa. I have a song from that movie performed by the red army choir on my phone.

Side note, this shit is getting real old

>>29303054
Why does that keep happening?

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>>29298160

>milled edition

"no"

>>29300045

circle 10's or german weigers if they fit your gun

>>29303183
that's quite short sling you have
my old sling went up to magwell when policed

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>>29303183
Except "yes", newtrip.
>Protip - All AKs are always welcome, editions are just a suggestion and way to start.

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>>29303382
have some more gore

hey guys going to an auction tomorrow and they have a WASR. How easy is it for someone who has never field stripped an AK before to field strip an AK having only watched videos? I would hate to get the thing apart and not be able to get it back together.

>>29303436
Common mistakes people make field stripping an AK for the first time after being shown how but having no first hand experience:
>make sure when putting the top cover back on that the front lip of the top cover is in its little groove in the rear sight base before pushing down
>make sure the bolt is all the forward before putting the BCG back in the receiver
>when you put the BCG back in the receiver, you have to start from the back. There are cutouts in the receiver rails where the bolt carrier and bolt slip in. But it won't just fall in, the hammer pushes it up, so you'll have to push down to get the BCG into the slots, then forward
>when putting the top cover back on, make sure to keep applying forward pressure to keep the front of the top cover in its slot, then push straight down, while continuing to apply forward pressure

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>>29303365

the sling is tightened so it doesnt flop around, note the buckle. its plenty long enough if you loosen it up :^)

>>29303382

>post x edition
>respond with something that isnt what was requested and type "no"

itsamemeyoudip.jpg

>>29303436

if youve taken rifles apart before and watched someone take an AK apart before, you should be fine. When I first bought my AR's and AK I was able to take them apart without having to rewatch anything.

>>29303382
>>29303393
Nothing some mineral spirits and a little elbow grease can't fix. She'll be back in the hands of a Somali pirate in no time.

>>29303493
i know, let me rephrase my previous brain fart
"my old sling tightened, had it's buckle at magwell"

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>>29303521
>as if it needs any

>>29303554

>kak kak kak

Comic book gun sounds are the best.

>>29303493
Where'd you get that sling? And what is it's country of origin?
I've been on the lookout for a sling with a blacked out metal components.

I'm probably opening a big fucking can of worms here, but what are the advantages of a milled receiver vs. a stamped receiver?

>>29303656

It all depends on your POU

for sustained fire to suppress multiple active shooters, as a sheepdog, to allow civillians to escape, a milled would serve you better. But for long neighboorhod patrols or recruiting station guarding duty, the lighter stamped receiver would be better.

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>>29303715

Shut up anon.

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>>29303715

>>29303546

nice, I wouldn't mind if it were a bit longer tbqh

>>29303608

came with the rifle (arsenal)

>>29303715
terrorist = milled
counter terrorist = stamped
>we Counter Strike now

>>29303759
>came with the rifle
Well shit.
I found it though.
Thanks tripfriend.

http://www.k-var.com/shop/AK-340.html

>>29303785

Wouldn't it be the opposite?

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>>29303608

I believe this is the exact sling I have

https://www.k-var.com/shop/AK-340.html

>>29303546

and I think this is the sling you had, or at least similar length

https://www.k-var.com/shop/AK-340R.html

>>29303715
Fuck off nutn.

>>29303842
>https://www.k-var.com/shop/AK-340R.html
yeah but like made in soviet era, it was heavily used

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>>29303715

>>29303805
"picture of american police having iraq LARP in U.S. suburbs, with quote from obama: weapons of war do not belong in to our streets"
so, i guess they are the alleged good guys patrolling

>>29303909

they say its unissued tho ¯\(°_o)/¯

>>29300029
>Those black finn mags
Gib plz

Anyone ever make a windowed magazine? I want to but I'm not sure of the best way to cut it.

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Silly question: has anyone ever made an AK stock with a German/HK style sling loop in the side?

>>29303656
>what are the advantages of a milled receiver vs. a stamped receiver?

For an end-user? None. I mean, the milled receiver is marginally stronger, but in a way that's not going to matter to 100% of the people in threads like this one. The only thing YOU'RE gonna notice is that it's heavier for no advantage as long as it's well-made.

For a manufacturer? There's a lot more that could go wrong trying to turn sheet metal into a decent AK vs milling out a receiver.

Literally no military force on the planet fucks with milled receivers unless they're irregulars with OG AK-47s. The only reason they're a thing is the USSR couldn't get their shit together enough to manufacture consistent stamped AKs right out of the gate. If your manufacturing infrastructure is shit-tier you're gonna be able to make a milled gun better than a stamped one. It's why the C39v2 is a better gun than the RAS-47 (though they're both still shit-tier) for example.

Back in the day, when you had a 95% chance of your AK being a piece of shit if you lived in the US, the milled guns were a better gamble than the stamped.

And that's how fuddlore is born.

>>29304206

I have.

>take AK sling swivel off bottom of stock
>drill 2 holes in side of stock
>screw sling swivel into side of stock

It's an AK, you're supposed to do things like this

Is there a step above Arsenal other than Krebs and RD?

>>29301425
Pls sell me your sam7 if it is the sf version

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The one thing I always hear about Arsenal is that their finish is shit. Is that true or is it just sour grapes poorfag shitposting?

>>29304711
It dissolves in room temperature water and you can flake it off with your fingernail.

Or at least that's the impression I had from the internet before I ever owned one. It's a decently good paint-over-park AK finish, which is pretty much what you get with an AK direct from Kazanlak or Izhmash. It's a step above a Wasr where you just have a park job, but two steps below a glock where you can store it in your fishtank and still not worry about rust.

>>29304711
I own an 09 SGL-31 and an SLR107FR, both of their finishes are pretty trash. I really don't mind because it's an ak, not a safe queen

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pls r8

Fired it with the DTK-2 break for the first time today. Really effective. I had a slant brake before.

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>>29304252
>Literally no military force on the planet fucks with milled receivers

>>29298160
someone linked me a website that was solely AK's a while ago.
anyone know what im talking about?
it was a beautiful site but i forgot to save it.

>>29305541

You're still a disgusting Eurocuck.

>>29305599

Christian Sternsdorf fucked up his opsec.

FB under the same name, IG christiansternsdorf

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Is it effect?

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>>29304252
The fuq?

>>29305541
Nice SVT, and cute sister.

>>29304252
>What is Bulgaria
They still make and use milled receivers on most of their military contract rifles. Ever wonder why you occasionally see brand new milled AK's with black polymer furniture in Africa and the middle east? Thank Bulgaria.

>>29305541
I gave you a follow, brah

>>29305756
Yeah I'd always assumed it was the same thing as seeing African contractors in Iraq armed with WASRs. Commercially-targeted guns ending up in a military situation due to cost/logistics fuckups.

>>29305687

Can't argue with that, I stand corrected.

Milled receivers are still shit, though. I stand by that.

>>29305961
I wouldn't say they are shit.

Smoother action, recoil impulse, more rigid, more durable. The milled guns last longer and machine gun rental ranges, however it's the trunnions that go first, typically.

There are downsides of course. Drop down stock, weight (7-8oz), balance.

I have a milled Chinese gun that is an absolute joy to shoot. Feels "correct" in a way that can't easily be described. I had a milled Bulgarian that I sold..

>>29300141
>dead sodier
that's some SF shit

>>29301335
i don't really feel a thing but a bit of sadness knowing that this guy died to insurgent that will leave his body to rot somewhere

>>29298160
anyone know of a good suppressor for an AK?

>>29306157
Huntertown Arms is supposed to be alright. They've got a lifetime warranty and even if you abuse the fuck out of your can, the part that's controlled is next to impossible to destroy, so you just pay to fix your stupidity and you won't have to deal with another $200 stamp.

>>29301335
I bet it feels shitty to die by the hands of some kebab in the middle of fuck all nowhere miles away from your home

but hey it's war, might be the drunk talking but i think it's just proper that gun still keeps on trucking, even if at the hands of some filthy insurgent

>>29306245
At least they didn't get taken alive

Rare shit

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=547852224

>>29306644
Sheepdog
Every
Fucking
Time

Recently getting into AKs and i've noticed a lot of videos feature ak reload where the support hand goes under the mag and charges the bolt without flipping tilting the rifle over to expose the charging handle and going over the rifle.
Is the overhand reload a bad method or is it purely preference?

>>29306840
Just some mall ninja shit, I like to use my other mag to kick an old one out and reload

>>29306734
Ikr

I need to go down and shoot with you sometime

DDI vs. Definitive Arms vs. Arsenal for a first time AK buyer. I'm looking for an AK of the 7.62 variety, I have read good things about all three brands, but I would like to buy the cheapest of the three that has comparable levels of quality.

Meaning if the DDI is as well built as the definitive arms, I would prefer to save the money for mags and ammo.

Any opinions?

>>29307028

>tfw muzzle brake finally got here

How much of a difference is there between a slant brake and a ak74 style brake on a 7.62x39 wasr?

>>29307063

Buy a WASR

>>29307066
Slant brake was designed for full auto fire, countering the rifle's natural up/right rise. Remove it unless going for a retro look.

>>29307078
Wut.jpg

>>29307063
Go DDI, can't go wrong with them.

>>29307112
Do you have any experience with them? And should I go milled or stamped?

>>29307130

Milled

>>29307130
I've handled one before, good fit that rivaled my old SAR 1, and awesome finish.

>>29307137
Sorry for the newfag questions; but is it simply because the milled is slightly more solid, or will it appreciably last longer than a stamped gun?

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>>29307028
It should be the other way around, you would overload the ATF with all the 5320.20's.

Email me at my new address though [email protected] the old one is kill

>>29307159
>heavier
>not appreciably stronger

Fuck milled receivers

>>29307608
Yes save all the SA93, polytechs, classics etc for me

>>29306157
Remember to know your thread size/pitch. It differs from manufacturer to manufacture. Zastavas like mine are a 14-1 Left Hand thread whereas a WASR might have a 14-1 Right Hand.

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Almost mine!

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im an AR guy but im coming around. my heart still yearns for an slr107fr

>>29299055
Depends. How much money are you willing to spend and what quality do you want?

>>29307066
I'd say the 74 style is better since it's what the Russians use on the ak103. But I have no first hand experience

>>29307596
Haha, I only have 3 approved NFA items so far. (Am planning on filing at least ten more before July though)
I'll shoot you an email

>>29306840
preference and what works best for you. I like doing it the way you described because it just feels better to me. Just work with it until you find what feels best.

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>>29301410
Are you talking about who has these mags? As well as the clear and orange tint clear 74 mags?

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>>29306644
>>29306734
Good gun ;^)

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>>29307867
Yes. The skinhead

>>29307941
European?

>>29307941
Moar

Any idea if 5.45 will feed from .556 ask mags?

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>>29307867
I have finally been pissed off enough to attempt to make my own fucking special snowflake AK-74 magazines.

>>29307943
Lol yeah where the fuck does this guy get all his shit from? Half the shit he posts is not documented anywhere, It would be nice if he loaned them out for photos so that it could be documented or something.

>>29307961
Nope American, my FFL (Well not mine) got it as well as an AMD-65 (both post samples) they sold the AMP to someone else I believe and kept the AMD for himself. Really wish I got the chance to shoot the AMP.

>>29307982
Not sure, never loaded or shot it my self.

>>29308002
Wouldn't even have thought such a thing existed in the US.

It's kind of bizarre to me that the most comprehensive Russian AK mag collection in the US evidently belongs to a neonazi. All I can say is that he must have made a friend in Russia who works at Izhmash or is a big shot collector in Russia.

>>29307982
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't 5.45x39's overall length longer than a 5.56x45?

Because of the length of the projectile in 5.45, not merely case length.

>>29308061
It's about the same overall length.

>>29308061
Nevermind, M193 is a hair longer than 7N6.

But the taper of the magazine will make it fucky.

>>29308002
Probably friends with some Ukrainians.

>>29308075
You won't get a full mag without a modded follower. probably mid 20's.

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>>29308001
Do ettt


>>29308002
Not keeping the rarer one. Pretty neat though

>>29308168
Hmm, I wanted to get a couple of the .556 rpk mags


Just bought some shorties and more saiga take-off side rails. Makes me laugh that the only things I've bought from Krebs is original parts

>>29308212
Well, he planned to shoot the AMD and have it just to shoot and shit, the AMP costed more and he sold it to another dealer.

Also have those ripped 5.45/5.56 mags ever been made in 30 rounders? Ive scene them in 45rds and 10rds but never 30rd mags I think a 30rd ribbed would look neat.

>>29308384
You're right I've never seen them in 30s either, guess they have enough 30rd mags from Izh and Tula

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>>29308212
>>29308058
http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=256976
Should i buy this 109 handguard? Has the 3 slots you guys sperg about.

>>29308530
These are cheaper if you don't care about the heatshield

http://www.theakforum.net/forums/35-want-sell-ak-parts-accessories/188538-wts-izhmash-ak-9-handguards.html

But yes you should get one

>>29308567
Damn, not a member on akfourm, guess Ill have to sign up.

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I find myself in need of one

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And a Tantal

Need to talk my SOT into getting one >dat burst fire ak

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And wanna build an AK9 clone in 300blackout or something

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Zastava M91 never

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Could grab one of the repo handguards from RoyalTiger and repo east German combo gas block from jmac tAda stg clone and much better then the io thing

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Guess I'm the only ak guy awake

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"Tonight on AKG"

Zastava M21

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>>29308940
>>29308949
>>29308957
Interesting the pistol grips are similar

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Always wanted a Saiga 12 just like this with the silly sight

>>29308940
Ive had the exact same idea, only problem is im not sure if the retainer IO sells will work with the jmac GB, also need a saiga or some other gastube to fit under the handguards, also the IO handguards have no heatshield which would be nice, also would need to be sure if the akbuilder 556 barrels will work correctly and all. I was just going to use a bulgy 74 kit for the build.

>>29305475
>dat wood

Hot. 9/10. Optic needs more wood.

>>29305475
that brake is horrendous. bet it works well but jesus

>>29308970
>tfw no RPK-74M

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>>29308949
No bb I'm here for you

>>29305475
>that much HDR

>>29307159
Some commercial shooting range owner from Las Vegas noted that milled receivers last longer than stamped. But they do also break in the end. You can find the article online somewhere.

Milled guns are heavier. Spontaneously, I'd say they weight about the same as Chinese stamped AK's who use thicker steel.

>>29309019
I'm working on getting into building guns (built 2 ARs, next is an FAL, then hopefully AKs). I've seen RPK-74 barrel assembly's online before, for like $500... could get a VEPR 5.45 and swap the barrel.

The RPK-74 is one of the sexiest guns ever made

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>>29308949
Of coursh.

As a faggot that has never owned or handled/fired a real-life AK before, I find myself wondering...
Are they really as inaccurate, yet reliable as everyone makes it out to be?

>>29309064
No and no. Just like ARs aren't jamomatic tack drivers. ARs from what I understand have more inherent accuracy due to the design but the difference is minimal. IMO, the biggest difference comes in the precision of the sights themselves; the leaf sight on an AK kinda sucks a lot while the aperture sight on an M16 is pretty great

>>29309076
I have seen pictures of the iron sights, as well as used them in vidya games, and I will admit that the M16's is superior by far. I knew already that the M4/AR was more accurate by design, but I see a lot of people, and media, bashing the AK for just being inaccurate in general. At the same time, I see it being represented as the workhorse of all workhorses, being dragged through mud and still firing/cycling, even through a fucking twinkie and a ham sandwich.

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>>29308984
I just looked at how they mount and bet it would work with a little fitting at most, you could make a heatshield. Do it so I don't start another project haha


>>29309019
Right!

>>29309030
Yay I'm not alone


Early vityaz

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Mid vityaz

>>29307106

It's by century this guy tells everyone to buy one though they are not bad rifles

>>29309121
>>29309134
Would you care to enlighten me what the actual fuck that is supposed to be?
Looks like the AK-74 raped the MP5 and that was the result.

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Latest with full top rail

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>>29309151
It's a vityaz sn little 9mm AK they look pretty sex

>>29307596
Where's your rear sight?

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>>29309166
So basically a lower mag cap, weirder looking Bizon?

>>29306157
do some research on baffle strikes with AK's.

Make sure your threads are concentric.

>>29309182
Haha, yes or more normal looking.

I have a couple pictures Of the beginning of the vityaz, when it was still a bizon with a mag adaptor

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>>29309210

How are the bulgy circle 10s?

>>29309216
Good

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Bizons had very little parts interchangeably with a standard Ak by the end, only the FCG components, pistol grip, grip reinforcement plate, rear trunnion. Everything else was bizon specific or slightly modded ak100 parts.

Here you can see the different trigger guard that's flaired to ease mag changes


>I should really write an article about bizon parts evolution

>>29309210
gibe da picshurs b0ss
>>29309239
I'd read the fuck outta that. Also write one on AK's in general, I need to feed my brain more useless gun facts so I don't seem like a total newb on these threads.

What do you guys think of the SLR-106cr? I want a 5.56 AK for ammo compatibility but I also don't want just a regular FSB/gas block set up since I have an SLR-104fr and would rather they look completely distinct no matter the furniture I have on them.

>>29309211
>>29309251

On my computer at home.

I only know about a few specific ak subjects, mostly Zastava stuff, bizon, vityaz and learning ak100

>>29309239
almost tempted to buy a deactivated one

to bad it cost so much

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>>29309298
Where do you live?

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I'd much rather have an AKG than an EKG.

>>29309335
stfu

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this thing

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at some point they played around using aks74u parts and a full length receiver

>>29309335
This shit right here is why we need Trump to build a wall. To keep the puns out.

>>29299055
As long as you clean your weapon well afterwards, you have nothing to worry about.

Personally, I should cheap surplus ammo. I clean and oil my barrel and all the dynamic parts thoroughly after shooting. I even oil the outside to prevent rust.

>>29298160
>5.56
I'm thinking of getting an AK in 5.56 for a HD rifle since I'm afraid of my 7.62 underfolder over penetrating. I just have a few questions I think akg can help me with. Can a 5.56 AK fire .223 like a milspec AR can? What country of origin or manufacturers should I avoid or really try to find? Hope everyone's having a good weekend

>>29310164
I am wondering how reliable 5.56mm AKs are with different types of ammunition.

I've seen, for example, some impressive-looking tests of 5.56mm ammo with the new 62gr Nosler bonded-jacket, flat-nose softpoint. It's got an awful lot of exposed lead up front and a very wide, flat point. In a modern AR we've got the extended "M4 feed ramps" to help out with ammo like this. Do AKs in 5.56mm tolerate this kind of thing or are they strictly for hardball and maybe match-type hollowpoint bullets that have no exposed lead?

>>29303554
anyone know where this is from?

>>29308874
I never knew how much I needed this before now. Maybe even in something like .50 AE so the ballistics would be comparable. Finding a barrel would be impossible, and the amount of dosh spent to make all of the unicorn components needed... fuck it would be expensive but holy hell that would be a cool gun.

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Where can I get a black or plum poly fixed set? Internationally shipped, that is....

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I found this in my email, it's time to study

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Good morning /k/.

>>29309044
Range in question was running semi-auto rifles converted to full-auto, mag dumping all day erry day until the guns broke.

Not at all reflective of real-world usage.

>>29309064
>>29309113

Few things going on with this fuddlore:

Original M16s in Vietnam were issued with out-of-spec ammo and no cleaning kits, and soldiers were told "lol don't worry about it." It's never been able to shake this rep

AKs will tend to be very reliable simply because of the long-stroke piston design. There's a LOT of weight coming backwards with each cycle and it allows the gun to overcome a lot of shit that would shut down other guns.

HOWEVER having that much weight moving back and forth with each shot also means recoil is heavier than it probably needs to be and the gun is flexing a lot, inherently reducing accuracy.

This isn't helped by the fact that the AK has a reputation for being inaccurate. If you're shooting one and it's not grouping tight, you're more likely to simply assume it's supposed to be that way because "lol AKs are inaccurate" rather than actually sight the gun in properly and get it where it could be.

Also ARs are a more sealed system than AKs are, which makes them technically more reliable in certain conditions (the mudtest every ARfag likes to cite, for instance), but it's pretty rare that those conditions are reflective of real-world conditions, and additionally ARs tend to be harder to get back on track than an AK will be once you're dealing with failures.

Also the perceived gap in accuracy has a lot to do with ballistics. A 5.45x39 AK is going to look a lot more similar than a 7.62x39 AK when compared to a 5.56x45 AR.

TL;DR it's all fuddlore, a gun's reputation is a self-fulfilling prophecy. ARs are more reliable and AKs are more accurate than they're made out to be

>>29309149

>It's by century

Century doesn't make WASRs. They import them and modify them to accept double-stack magazines.

>>29311106
Don't forget that AKs tend to be found in the hands of militia or untrained conscripts more than actual soldiers. I'd probably be wildely inaccurate too if I had zero formal training.

I have some rusty old 223 galil magazines. With a bit of filing, I managed to fit them in my saiga 223 perfectLy. looking for new magaxine springs, will AR15 springs fit? How about ak 74 springs? Best and cheapest?

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>>29307694
>WASR might have 14-1 rh

My old-style one has 14-1 Left-hand, otherwise this brake wouldn't be installed on it.

>>29309030

>No marks
>No dimples
>shiny BCG
>No threads or brake

What am I looking at

>>29311213

>Don't forget that AKs tend to be found in the hands of militia or untrained conscripts more than actual soldiers.

lolno

TONS of militaries issue AK-variant weapons bro.

From there the older surplus filters down to lower-tier allies, militias etc.

Like how you'll see soldiers in Central American countries with M16s that look like they went through 20 years of service in the States before filtering down to where they are now.

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Added a 74 brake, does /k/ like?

Pls respond

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Is pic related accurate?

>>29311771

>Angled stoke

>>29299821
>Who is Zasta
Our resident Ork. Still wanting to do an MG53 build once I get a welder and tools to do so because of that fucker.

>>29311771
>all those typos and poorly drawn circles
was this made by some drunken slav in ms paint?

>>29311771
For the most part, there are countries that produce newer milled ak's with those "Angled Stokes" but otherwise are the same as AKM's in most ways. It's also fairly un-wise to identify an AK by it's furniture if it's not an under-folder. The best way is either the Muzzle Break or The magazine.

>>29311738
Let me rephrase, American soldiers were more likely to encounter the AK in the hands of militia and conscripts than an organized, well trained military.

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>>29311761
not a legit zigzag/10

>>29311761
>Pls respond
>>29312044
>not a legit zigzag/10

Your brake a shit. Get a legit 74 style, or some other type that actually works. I can recommend the Fighter Brake. >>29311319

>>29311346
A wasr 10.

>>29312044
>>29312055
Bruh, I live in europe, you think this shit is easy to get here ?

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>>29311346
>>No marks
>>No dimples
>>shiny BCG
>>No threads or brake
>>29312152
>A wasr 10.

I don't think so, breh.

>>29312180
I would hope so it's fucking made there.

>>29312220
Then what is it? because a early WASR is the only thing it think sort of matches.

>>29312229
Well t fucking ain't

>>29312296
>Then what is it?

I'm asking, not telling.

>>29312368
http://russtock.com/product?id=91

>>29312430
If you have to maintain that its not a wasr that some one has changed the bolt out and refinished it than I'm saying its home made. Because wasr's are the only thing I know of with no dimples and some came with no threads.

>>29312464
>http://russtock.com/product?id=91
Imports law are such that I need a permit to get this into my country .

But thanks for the link

>>29309121
Ill try doing it later this year if I have the money, working on building my krink at the moment.

>>29309154
Is there no mag release?

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Will 74 furniture fit AKM ?

>>29312621
Normally.

>>29312621

It should. I bought my buddy some Bulgy AK74 furniture for christmas and it fit his WASR with no changes needed.

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Is there any significance to the length of the rail section on the side of AK-9 hand guards?

>>29312918
Not really.. The three slot vs two slot thing was just me fucking with 922r anon

>>29312987

I've read that some were made for shotguns and others for regular AK's. I have no idea what event you are referring to.

>>29313004
That has nothing to do with the length of the rail sections. Some are hollowed out a little more on the insides to fit over the shotgun Saiga barrels.

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My slings from Russia came in today.

>>29307867
holy shit my dick where can i find these

Finally got my first AK, cant wait to shoot it.

It was used and came with a bunch of accessories that I dont want. Do you think it would be easier to sell them on armslist or ebay? Rails/grips/etc

>>29313311
Russia

>>29308530
>>29308586

They are $10 cheaper in his akfiles ad

http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=251388

>>29313318
Pics pls

>>29311346
>>29312220
>>29312296
>>29312430
>>29312543

Older Saigas didn't have dimples or muzzle threads.

>>29310859
East German furniture look like cheap Chinese toy plastic, who the fuck would want that on an AK?

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>>29313631
please excuse the shitty picture. I took it apart to clean and now I cant get it back together. Will fix and get better pics tomorrow.

Trying to sell the quad rail, muzzle brake, and gripod and make it look more traditional.

>>29314003

>cant get it back together

looks pretty together to me, unless this is an old picture. what in particular cant you get back together?

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>>29314003
>I took it apart to clean and now I cant get it back together.

>>29314026
yeah this is before I started taking it apart.

Just having trouble getting the bolt back in. Probably not using enough force. Previously noguns

>>29314078
Did you insert the bolt correctly into the carrier?

>>29314078
>Previously noguns
Shocking.

Do you mean the assembled bolt carrier or are you having trouble getting the bolt into the carrier?

If it's the latter, stick the skinny end in an rotate it until it's where it needs to be.

If it's the former, start at the back where the gaps in the rails are. You're gonna need to use a little force because the hammer will push the BCG back up. Just get it level with the receiver rails and move it forward and you're good.

>>29314114
>>29314026
>>29314131

I went out and tried it again. Turns out I was just not pressing hard enough to slide the bolt forward. I'm used to working with electronics so it feels wrong to apply such force to something.

Thanks guys.

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>>29314131
>You're gonna need to use a little force because the hammer will push the BCG back up.

I just realized that being an Europoor, with my current AK being a milsurp Arsenal 74, I would have absolutely no clue how to disassemble a civilian AK trigger group. All I've ever handled are F/A military AKMs and AK74s. Especially those fucky "shepherd's hooks" and pin retaining plates look bumfuckingly tricky to me.

>>29314167
And with shepherd's hook I refer to those wonky aftermarket ones for semi-auto trigger groups.

On my AKs the auto sear holds the hammer down until the BCG is pushed fully into battery = no/very little resistance from the hammer when inserting it after cleaning.

>>29314167
????

I'm specifically referring to the fact that the cocked hammer contacts the bottom surface of the BCG slightly when it's in the rear position. Especially on newer AKs it can take a little pressure to get things where they need to be.

>>29314175
I guess I didn't realize they were that different.

>>29314149
You have to push down first, and then it will slide forward easily. Make sure he bolt is properly in the carrier, and all the way forward, then starting from the rear, push it down and then slide forward.

>>29313809
But don't saigas have 90 degree gas blocks.

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>>29314149
>it feels wrong to apply such force to something.

I forget who said it, but I remember reading a quote about operating AK rifles.

>You can 'talk' to your AK, just remember that it only knows Russian

I take this to mean that one should not be afraid to beat on the gun. They like being handled roughly. That's what they are made for.

When I was trying to install my Balkan furniture on my WASR, I had to stop for a moment when I realized I actually needed a hammer to install the buttstock.

>>29314167
>I would have absolutely no clue how to disassemble a civilian AK trigger group.
Tie up the hammer spring as normal. Remove shepherd's hook or retaining plate. Remove trigger and hammer components.

Ta-da.

>>29313909
Confirmed for shit taste.

>>29313909

As an American with German blood and a love for Kalashnikovs, I would enjoy having some.

You stupid fag, you.

>>29314209
Yeah, I guess you're right. Dimpleless Saigas (and WASRs for that matter) also have little spots showing on the outside from the spot-welded shims for mag support, which >>29309030 also lacks.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>29314226
>>29314259

He's right though.

For that matter I don't get why everyone creams their jeans over plum furniture either.

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>>29314196
It could be I'm just retarded but I swear I am confused when I see pictures of semi only groups.
>>29314214
Yeah, now I see why. On my AK the hammer is held down by the auto disconnector until the BCG is in battery. On a civilian one it's held down by the trigger hook. Obviously some mm/degree difference in how it's held

>>29314272
Thats why I think its a home modded early single stack wasr.

>>29314286

What's the white thing with numbers on it?

>>29314293
>Thats why I think its a home modded early single stack wasr.
Nah, Even the oldest WASRs I've seen still have RomArms markings on them.

Definitely a DIY-build on a receiver with no dimples. Maybe even from blank sheet metal.

>>29314334
Inventory # on a Dymo label. I prefer it over painting huge ass numbers on the stock

>>29314359

Are you mandated to have that on the weapon?

>>29314392
No I'm pretty sure he put it on there because he likes how it looks.

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>>29314397
This :^)

>>29314437

>OD green furniture 5.45 rifle

STALKER/10

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>>29314458
That's funny, everyone who sees it keeps drawing that connection.

I want to replace it with a black or plum poly set but man, the AK Plus grip and +1" stock are more comfy than the standard.
Being 180cm/5'11" with fairly large hands the original stock's LOP and grip's size are just babby tier small.

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>>29314499
>Being 180cm/5'11" with fairly large hands the original stock's LOP and grip's size are just babby tier small.

I know this feeling.

I have been resisting swapping out my Balkan buttstock because my cousin troubled himself with helping me fit the bitch (didn't even ask him, he just grabbed it and started working), but I really want to upgrade to a buffer tube adapter soon.

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>>29310551
from this comic

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>>29314552
I actually have some more Magpul stuff for it, but I took it off since it looks pig disgusting.

The Zhukov at max length fits me perfectly but it rattles and the adjustment is so damn stiff it's impossible to use without maiming yourself.
AKM HG is OK enough but it feels like a plastic 2x4.

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Are James River AK74's any good? Or should I just shell out another $250 for an Arsenal?

https://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/james-river-ak74-red-wood-detail.html?Itemid=0

>>29298160
Is an SLR104 worth it? I like the idea of a 5.45 AK.

>>29314336
>>29314272
>>29314209
That's Bowtie's Wasr

>>29314693
If you like a more "classic" look to your AKs, James Rivers are a good option. If you don't really care, I'd just scrape together the remaining $250 and go Arsenal.

>>29314766
Yes, it's worth the price, if you want to save a few hundred a DDI is also good. The only downside is you give up the left-side folder.

Where can I buy the most recent generation of Russian AK 7.62 mag like the kind used in the AK104?

>>29311761
>74 brake
>on an AKM

absolutely haram. Next you'll put a buttstock with the '74 lightening cuts on each side on it too.

AKMs have short muzzle devices, 74s have long muzzle devices. Put a short birdcage flash suppressor on it and call it good.

>>29315117
Russia or The ak files/the ak fourm
Probaly $100 a mag.

>>29314499
nice/10

rattlecan the mag so it'll match the furniture

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So I went to a funshow this afternoon and got a cheap US Army surplus olive drab gas mask bag, with the intent of using it to carry spare mags.

Pluses: it's really big. I think you could get 8-9 30 round AKM mags in it, maybe 10. It appears fairly well constructed. OD is less inappropriate for my location than UCP (UCP matches nothing on earth but is said to be a good match for moon rocks, however right now I don't think bugging out to the moon is a realistic SHTF plan)

Minuses: no matter how I try to arrange the straps it appears it can only be carried with the open end down or to the side, neither of which is acceptable for a bag holding 8+ very heavy loaded steel AKM mags, from which I would presumably be trying to retrieve them one at a time, possibly while under attack by zombies..

tl;dr what does /akg/ use to carry spare mags in the field? I am trying to keep everything as simple as possible and especially trying to avoid plate carriers, "tactical vests," ninja black combat webbing, and other paramilitary-looking gear as I expect that, come SHTF, such gear, practical and tactical and HSLD though it may be, is also likely to carry certain implications about the wearer, who is likely to convince all who see him, just by wearing it, that either he's on Team Cheeki Breeki, come to steal everyone's daughters and rape their chickens, or else is from Team We're from the Government and We're Here to Help Ourselves to You, who will, come that day, probably not be held in much higher esteem by the people.

So, do y'all just carry spare mags around in your pockets, or...?

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>>29315329
>tl;dr what does /akg/ use to carry spare mags in the field?
Pic related. I use either depending on where I am. My belt is reserved for public ranges and my family's farm, the big vest is for when I'm up innawoods at my cabin

If you want a larger bag to carry mags with (fucking why tho?) look for a "Russian Bread Bag". I have one that I store my Czech M10 mask in along with other innawoods shit. I could see holding atleast 4 mags in each of the two internal compartments. It does not come with a shoulder strap or anything, though, just two belt loops.

If you want, I can take photos of mine.

>>29315411
>Russian Bread Bag
>If you want, I can take photos of mine.

yes please, and thanks.

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>>29315493
>yes please, and thanks.

I under-estimated the capacity, and the options. It's got two D-Rings on the back if you wanted to sling it. The flap is held shut by some rings and straps. There's also another strap and ring on the inside for reasons I can only guess at. The front of the bag has two small pockets, each large enough for an AK 'pill' cleaning kit. Inside, there's four small pockets with button-snap enclosures, slightly bigger than the first two. The smaller of the two cells can fit four or five AK mags, and the larger one has room for eight, as even my seven were flopping around inside.

If I were looking for a bag to mate with an AK, and only an AK, I think it's not a bad idea. IIRC I paid around $12 for this thing. Also the belt straps might look flimsy, but once it's on they actually hold pretty tightly. I used to use it as a dump pouch.

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>>29315170
Nah, I already have a bunch of Promags that are green.

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I got a question, are there any AK rail mounts that are in line with the receiver? I'm reluctant to get optics that are slightly off center.

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Bumping for sick bants

>>29308829
which serials were the bad ones?

>>29316194

>that stock wasr furniture

plz kill it

>>29316194
refinish that shit AHHH

>>29305475

how do i get wood this color

>>29316569
Yeah it's pretty bad.
I'm saving for a good set, and then I'll refinish this and have TWO SETS

>>29303054
Y they ban you senpai?

is this supposed to happen or am i doing it wrong

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>>29317208
oops forgot pic

>>29317240

Uhh.. how far does it come out?

>>29317240
can't u twist it back on

>>29317270
it doesnt move from there but i dont ever remember it being like that.

>>29317285
it wont move

>>29317298
well i guess it just an aesthetic tick
>nyet rifle is fine
if it works, its a non-issue senpai

>>29317298
>it wont move

Then assume it's fine. Keep an eye on it. If it starts to move, unscrew it and get some high-temperature threadlocker in there.

>>29317320
>>29317340
okay hope it wont be a problem later but every problem can be fixed

>>29317340
>>29317393
You can't just unscrew it and adding threadlocker is a bad idea

AK gas pistons are intentionally loose and slightly wobbly. There should be a small amount of play. To keep it from coming unscrewed it's riveted in place. That's what the two circular areas are at the end of the bolt carrier. There's a rivet that holds it in which is then ground down flush with the bolt carrier so that it doesn't snag.

What might have happened is that it was tight from the factory but after shooting it/handling it the gas piston came slightly loose (as it should be)

>>29317458
>adding threadlocker is a bad idea

Why?

>>29317486
First of all it's totally redundant because the gas piston rivet holds the gas piston in with no need for any thread locker. It'll never come loose unless somehow the gas piston is torqued so hard that the rivet shears. But also because threadlocker would do its job, and lock the threads. You don't want that, you want it to have a little wobble. It helps prevent the bolt carrier group from binding up in the cycling operation. A good AK bolt carrier is going to have a slight gap where those threads meet, and a little wobble to the piston.

>>29315916
wait a minute is that full-fun?

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>>29315916
How does a FA AK feel like? Can you feel the bullets go through the barrel?