Polymer Coated Bullets

i guess no one is into reloading on this board.

>>29296754
What do you want to know? They work.

>>29296845
Yeah, or maybe your thread is shit

>>29296869
maybe youre a faggot, op's thread is fine.
Do you have anything to contribute or just here to be annoying?

>>29296869

To OP's defense, I didn't even know you could get this shit, though I don't know anything about reloading besides posts I see here on /k/

I wouldn't call it shit, just maybe too obscure to warrant the immediate responses OP wanted

Seriously OP, you didn't even wait 10 minutes to bump your thread

>in because of curiosity

>>29296865
i was just wondering how they compared to copper plated bullets. if it is worth to switch for the cheaper price and if they are decently accurate.

>>29296754
Seems like they'd be more prone to leaving shit in your rifling.


But on the upside it's also probably easier to remove than copper fouling.

>>29296891
Sure, they're cheap for range ammo and I haven't experienced any barrel fouling while using them. Are they accurate? Just about any round is more accurate than you have any reasonable expectation of exceeding.

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>>29296895
the company claims it leaves no fouling in the rifling

>Polymer coated bullets combine several of the advantages of hard cast lead and jacketed bullets. They smoke less, are inexpensive, are more accurate, and won't lead your barrels even in hot pistol loads.

just trying to see if anyone has ever actually tried these bullets out to see if the claims the company make are true or not..

>>29296916
awesome thanks. what round have you loaded with them? do you have any load data? did you experiment with hotter loads at all?

>>29296924

Mother of God, I can finally shoot bullets that look like crayons!

Seriously though, this is news to me, OP. Try them out and let us know.

>>29296960
im ordering a 500ct box of 9mm 124 gr blue bullets tomorrow. why not for the price, its like half the price of copper plated.

>>29296935
I got a box of 10mm 165gr for next to nothing and loaded up some standard 10mm loads, 9.4gr of cheap powder.

>>29296754
What state are you in, Op? Because some states have issues with bullets coated in anything other than copper and brass.

>>29296924
Oh my games, can you imagine those different colored bullets in a 9x39?
>Tactical fucking crayons.

>>29296924

Seems like the bright colors would be great for making dummy rounds for random malfunction drills.

>>29296754
>eggleston munitions
looks cool. just ordered 500 OD 9mm bullets. $0.085 a bullet is pretty good price, I can get them for $0.106 in town but these are colorful and I can color code by weight which is a cool feature.

I've used the stuff from bayoubullets. Shoots fine. Same load data as copper plated and performs pretty much the same. No fouling that i've seen, since it's pretty much the same concept with plating, just different material and application process. I still buy plated when they're on sale though.

A few outfits even offer small quantity test packs (I believe sns, blue bullets, and bayou do)

>>29296916
>Just about any round is more accurate than you have any reasonable expectation of exceeding.

You are aware people will spend hundreds of dollars testing different powders and bullets to get the best possible combination for accuracy, right?

Or are you the guy who says any gun can outshoot the shooter?

>>29296924
I wonder if you'd get any looks if you walked into the shooting range with a box of cartridges topped off with the hot pink bullets.

>>29296875
This is fucking 4chan, everyone is here to be annoying

>>29296924
Polymer coating works, at the same time though you can buy plain cast lead boolits and coat them yourself for far less.

>>29296924
What are the ballistics like like poly jackets insofar as tissue damage is concerned?

>>29297812
"don't"
Can't imagine it'd be any better than FMJ.

>>29296754
These are FPJ-only, right? No HP/JHP?

Wonder how this will do with steel core...

Does this polymer break down after I shoot it?

>>29297829
How hard is the lead underneath the poly? Without a metallic jacket, I can't see simple lead NOT expanding in gel unless it's hardcast.

I live in NC and I'm pretty sure that would be illegal for me. Teflon are banned by name because of some myth that they're specifically for killing police.

Actually the wording is that Teflon coated, or 'cop killer' rounds are banned.

(oh and I'm sure my idiot friends would see the blue tips and mistake them for simmunition or nonlethal and shoot each other in the asses because blue is like the universal for training and nonlethal ammunition)

>>29296978
Order the red ones dumbass! That way the doctor won't be able to find them in time to save the victim

i shot a box of 50 factory polymer rounds, did just fine. wanna say they were sellior & b

>>29298294
Fucking dying.

Don't let the democrats hear that or they'll ban all plastic.

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>>29298294

>>29298294
Shut your fucking cockholster before Hillary, Schumer, and Feinstein hear you!!!

>>29296924

Can they into polygonal rifling?

>>29298099
they are intended for target shooting.

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POLYMER COATED BULLETS ARE THE SHIT FOR RELOADING ON THE CHEEP YO

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>>29299324
yes

>>29296869
>stop asking gun/ammo related questions on /k/!

yeah back to the weeb containment thread with you

>>29297321
good to know, thanks for the input.

>>29298187
they arnt Teflon though. they are polymer.

for those that have shot these colored rounds, if you shoot something softish like wood that would end up with the bullet lodged in it is there enough of the color left to know it was your round as opposed to other bullets that might have struck it

>>29299450
i have not shot wood with them, mostly just cans and paper. i wouldn't think they would leave much of a color passing through wood but it would be a interesting experiment.

>>29298178
its supposed to be like a regular cast bullet under the polymer coat, so it will probably deform slightly on impact with flesh but not as much as like a hollow point. these bullets arnt made for shooting people though just a cheaper alternative then FMJ's or copper plated bullets for reloading for target practice. remember some people shoot like 500+ rounds a weekend just practicing at the range or shooting competition.

>>29298294
Oh my god first 4chinz kek of the year

the purple ones will paralyze you

>>29297118
"Bullet Wizard Casts Prismatic Spray and Spray!"

You can now yell 'Taste the Rainbow!' as you mag dump

I demand a brainstorming of memes for colorful bullet coatings

What do they look like in a casing? I'm asking for a friend...

>>29299661
Case is not coated, just bullet
Ya see that groove on the bottom half of the bullets in the pics in this thread? That's covered up by the case. Just the front half of the bullet sticks out.

Someone start a business
Kentucky Fried Coatings

Only use brown colors.

Try to find a formula for mixing a bit of chicken grease flavor in it. Call em 'The Colonel's Choice'

>>29299433
you're saying ptfe is a monomer?

>>29299688
bacon, dude. we need bacon bullets for kebab.

>>29296754
OP, I'm sorry, but it seems you're asking a legitimate weapon related question here on /k/, and that is not taken so seriously around here. You need to add some buzzwords like "Jews", " general", "Shillary", or "Happening" if you want any attention around here. Maybe spice things up with some samefag shitposting to get the kids around here going. Sorry, but this is /pol2.0/. We don't actually want to talk about weapons unless it's a shitty general thread.

To respond to your question, though, I think they would be fine. I've never seen them, let alone used them, but as long as the polymer didn't melt all through the bore, I don't see why they'd be bad or any different from anything else as far as punching paper goes.

>>29297687
>you really expected a response on a Cantonese basket weaving forum

People will give good tips here from time to time

>>29299698
...If only Muslims were as autistic as anons.

>>29299714
yeah, i see your point. we'd smell bacon and eat the boolits

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>>29296869
So are we at the point now where relevant, weapon related threads are shit?

I'll be honest OP, I've never heard of the damn things, but they look interesting enough to warrant a google.

>>29296754
I know I know reloading, but federal has even come out with a line, its listed as a training round that is supposed to match the ballistics of their hollow points. Its called Federal Syntech i believe

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>>29299659
>taste the rainbow
Now imagine your screaming it as you dump the entire belt of 7.62x51 into a wave of commies, the bullets organised in rainbow colour order.

I demand that a drawfag gets in here and makes that.

>>29299741
https:www.federalpremium.comammunition/handgun/family/American-Eagle/American-Eagle-Syntech/

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>>29297687
Have you just got here from /b/ perchance?

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>>29299700
I wish that you weren't correct, but you are.
I'll spice the thread up a bit, *clears throat*:


F-35 A SHIT
A-10 BEST FOR CAS
ARMATA BTFO ABRAMS
BRING BACK BB'S
GLIDERS
ROBOTIC ISLAMIST JEWS UNDER THE THRAWL OF HILARY CLINTON UNLEASHED TO TAKE YOUR GUNS
GEAR
DRAGON DILDOS
MECHS ARE A GOOD IDEA
MBT'S ARE OBSOLETE
OH NO, NK IS A THREAT

etc
etc
etc

>>29299721
Pretty sure you've missed the point.
Pork is unclean in Islam, but its not like you'd instantly go to hell for touching it and its not as if you'd be in trouble if you didn't mean to.
Makes me cringe everytime idiots go on about pouring bacon/pork etc on Muslims as if it'd literally make them melt.

It'd be like yanking the cap off of a Jewish person or tricking a mormon into drinking alcohol, its just offensive to them, but that's about it.

>>29296895
>Seems like they'd be more prone to leaving shit in your rifling.
This is the thing I just can't stand about /k/. Obvious gun polisher who is more concerned about the shiny finish of a gun than their proficiency with it.
GTFO gearqueer, get to a range and put lead down range till your barrel glows. It's a fucking piece of STEEL FFS, and about the best steel man can produse.FUCK.

>>29296924
TOO ATTRACTIVE TO CHILDREN. We'll have young 2nd graders reloading .50AE! Infants using progressive loaders to churn out hundreds of 9mm!

Ban the colorful bullets, before someone gets hurt!!!

But yeah...imma gon look into these. Need some .45s.

>>29296845
Never used them op but higher level technical questions about shooting, which I would group reloading into, are hit and miss here.

If this is a shill thread, it's a really good one.

I'm totally gonna buy some of these after everything I learned from you all. I had no clue these even existed.

>>29299765
making a jew eat pork has started a war

i think it is you that missed the point.

its just adding disrepect on top of the humiliation of getting shot but a boolit that smells like pork belly

>>29299721
Pig isn't some kind of Muslim kryptonite like 4chan and stormweenies think it is, it's not like cows and Hinduism. Every one of those 'hurr durr berry pig stop mosque' meme images is a lie.

Prohibition against pigs is not some high tenet, it's just an effect of an overarching cultural value, that being dead things in a hot climate should be treated with a lot of fucking care if you don't want to die by vomiting shit and pissing blood, while boils of pus erupt from your arsehole and armpits.

If you really wanted to fuck with Muslims, just smear shit on their corpses, or cremate them. Or basically take anything that would cause moral outrage if it was done to American soldiers, and apply it to them.

>>29299795
>making a jew eat pork has started a war
Pro-tip: Jewish tradition is mostly bullshit fairy-tales.

Otherwise known as "no, you did not build the pyramids, and you did not all get kicked out of Israel by the Romans, you historically-ignorant dingleberries"

>>29299762
What is this, a bar in Taiwan? Why so spice?

>>29299795
If you honestly think that after being shot, they'd be at all bothered about a gram or 2 of bacon in the bullet, you're deluded.

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I've tried precision coated bullets out of Texas and their coating burned off and leaded the fuck out of my glock. Black bullets international use the hitek coating which has worked great so I would recommend them, but they kind of stink when you shoot them. Xtreme bullets makes pretty good plated bullets that used yo be really competitive in price but have gotten more expensive lately.

>>29296924
they look like M&M's

>>29296924

/k/rayons.

>>29299832
>you're deluded.
People who are obsessed with race, religion, politics, and sexuality, usually are.

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I'd buy them in a heartbeat if they made some like this.
But then not everyone has a phobia about Italian plumbers.

>>29300055
And now I need hobby paint and some black polymer .45's

>>29297490
Considering the majority of /k/ is noguns and the minority that own guns brag about touching paper at 100 yards, it's safe to assume any ammunition that leaves the barrel is inherently more accurate than the shooter under these circumstances.
And before you claim there's possibly a few shooters here that can benifet from actually loading rounds specifically for accuracy, I'll say sure. Sure it's possible, and sure it's possible there's some very talented marksmen here. However, the odds are highly against whoever that guy was referring to.

There's a lot of context to consider when calling someone out on something.

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>>29300297
Reminds me

>Shoot Tula .45acp out of roomates $350 1911 just to see if it functions
>25yds, 4 rounds
>3 inch group
>Guy next to me "Wow! Are you a cop or something?"
>MFW
>No, I'm a security guard

>>29296754
Neat, I knew about home coating lead bullets in enamel but not this. Thanks!

>>29299909
Put this in a patch thread

>>29296924
OMG i can paint a magazine like a pack of skittles and give trayvon his skittles back!!!!

>>29299772
You don't own any guns, I can tell.

>>29296754
Sounds good, the metal jacket is primarily there to keep the lead from deforming before it strikes the target.

>>29299857
I've never noticed any stink from shooting hitek coated bullets. And berry's bullets sometimes go on sale for super cheap on various sights. I got some at cabelas for super decent ($64 shipped for 1k of 115 rn. Slightly cheap than most coated quit a bit cheaper than xtreme)

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>>29298294

Link to red ones saved. Thanks, I'm too good of a person to "life-hack" death like that.

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>>29299832

Clearly you've never left the US.

People elsewhere, liderally, believe in god and shit, of the books says be mad, they get and stay mad.

>>29296754
does this coating also work on rifle bullets? like say a 6.5 mm or 7.62 or generally fast rifle bullets?

>>29296891
>I was just wondering how they compared to copper plated bullets
They don't. They compare directly to uncoated cast lead. The polymer coating replaces the traditional wax-based lube on the uncoated bullet. You use the same load data as a cast bullet.
>is it worth the switch for the cheaper price
I think so. You can also coat your own with powdercoating powder and a toaster oven.
>and if they are decently accurate
Depends on QC and the design/QC of the lead bullet under the coating, but yeah they can be pretty accurate.

I cast and PC my own bullets for .45acp and .300blk subsonics. With the coating they are suppressor safe and don't lead at handgun velocities. In .300blk I can shoot 10-shot, 1" groups at 50 yards all day long with them (so about the same as reman with m80 pulls), and I'm not a good enough shot with pistols to notice a difference between them and any other bullet.

>>29296895
It shouldn't leave anything in the rifling.

>>29301992
Yes, with caveats.
>requires a gas check
>requires that you REALLY know what you're doing
>*may* require a specialty gas check (thicker/not gilding metal/tighter crimp/etc)

I've had okay luck with .223rem and PC'd cast bullets with an aluminum gas check made with a Freechex. Didn't lead but accuracy wasn't very good.
>70gr Accurate Molds PC-specific grooveless spirepoint
>aluminum GC made with a Freechex 2
>2970fps from 20" barrel
>~3MOA

>>29302078
Never had good luck with unjacketed and barrels with gas ports. That said, sounds like a fun load.

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>>29301961
And the book says that it's better to eat pork than to starve. Getting hit with a bacon bullet ain't gonna stain their souls.

>People elsewhere, liderally, believe in god and shit

Yeah, no one like that in the US, no sir.

>>29296924
Sweet!
I had no idea these existed, still going through my stock of Ranier copper plated bullets. These are cheaper and I dig the colors. Fuck yea, gonna reload me some rainbow rounds.

>>29296754
Does it go the rifling in place?

>>29302179
Haven't seen any signs of the polymer coming off in the gas port and I use super obnoxious colors so I'm fairly certain I'd notice.

Also that bullet deforms really nicely. It's pointy enough the tip rolls over into a curl and tumbles like a mofo. I've killed a good few coyotes with it. I wonder what going with a harder alloy would do, my normal alloy for it is wheelweights at about 12 Brinell, which is really fucking soft.

For reloaders used to copper plated, research lead bullet loading a little. May need a crimp die that doesn't fuck up the whole bullet

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>>29299643

>>29302215
Too bad that the majority (literally, greater than 50%) of Muslim adults of both genders can't read and take the word of the Imams at face value.

Kinda like Catholics from pre-Vatican 2. Except marginally more violent.

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>>29300074
>>29300055
Licensed Nintendo product when?

>>29302431
>marginally

Heh. Yeah, I sure do worry about Catholics shouting "Admiral Ackbar!" And then blowing up shit/shooting up shit.

Keeps me up at night, it does.

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Are the egelston ones powder coated or some other coating? Bayou and BBI have been cheap enough to not warrant switching over, but those colors are lulzy...

Anyone else want to see ultimate poorfag pistol ammo? Cast lead, steel case. 15cpr. Make it happen, Wolf.

>>29302460
>what is Northern Ireland
They did exactly that for nearly 30 years before realizing that bootlegging alcohol and making/running drugs was more profitable and less likely to get them shot.

>>29302517
Well, the whole England/Ireland thing is messy. Frankly I'm amazed the wall still stands, and there's anything resembling peace.

>>29302553
Agreed. Still pretty good counterpoint to the HURR ONLY MUZZIES SNACKBAR STUFF argument.

>>29302582
Well, they're the only ones doing it "now". If England does something stupid we'll be doing it again.

>>29302479
Yeah they're powder coated.

The other major option is Hi Tek, which I think is what Bayou uses. I shoot a lot of Missouri Bullet Co. bullets (due to a .mil discount) which are also Hi Tek coated, but even on the surface they're a bit cheaper ($34.00 per 500 115gr 9mm vs $37.50). The tradeoff is you don't get a choice on bullet color. Last batch I got from them was damn near Cerakote Burnt Bronze though, which looks positively badass.

>shooting polymer coated bullets
>wanting cancer
okay

>>29302995
>drinking anything that comes in polymer containers
>eating food that comes in polymer containers
>riding in transportation painted with polymer paint
>holding your gun with polymer furniture
>living in a home painted with polymer paint
Uh huh, I'm sure none of those have ever ever played even the slightest bit of a factor in cancer, yet shooting a few bullets coated in it will guarantee you get it.
>literally everything you can possibly touch is made of or has had significant contact with a polymer

>>29303034
>yet shooting a few bullets coated in it will guarantee you get it
>shooting
>SHOOTING
you do know of the concept of friction
the one with heat and shit

>>29303059
You mean the same friction that happens any time your polymer-painted [conveyance of choice] goes anywhere? The same friction that happens literally any time anything moves?

Go back to your bagged milk and subservience to Germany.

>>29303104
tell me anon, what reloads do you produce ?
because i really do wonder now

>>29296754
Is it better at reducing barrel wear than moly or Hex-Boron?

>>29303126
Mostly 5.56 m193 clones with Varget and Berry's Hornady-clone 55gr FMJ's and 9mm with MBC's 124gr SmallBall LRN's and Titegroup. But I reload for 9 different calibers.

I went shooting for the first time two days ago. The 1911 .45 my relative let us use he actually reloads with these exact same color/polymer bullets.

>>29298294
also, remember that the red wunz go fasta

>>29302995
>>29303034
>>29303059
all I gathered from this was that you can now shoot someone to give them cancer

if thats not a plus for these then i dont know what is

>>29303160
>MBC's 124gr SmallBall LRN's
are you fucking shitting me ?
you load fucking lead round nose 9mm and dare to tell me about health issues ?

get fucked idiot

>>29303188
heating polymers to a certain point can release toxic gases

>>29300338
lions guard plz go

>>29303214
>you load fucking LRN and dare to tell me about health issues?
Yep. It's literally a nonissue unless you lick your chamber or shoot hundreds of thousands of rounds a year in a completely unventilated indoor range.

...you don't lick your chamber, do you?

>>29303214
I also speed, smoke, shoot innawoods, drink occasionally, don't use a condom, eat red meat every day, and a bunch of other potentially bad things.

Big fucking deal.

>>29303245
>it's litereally a nonissue
if you think so


>>29303258
>don't use a condom
in a couple years you won't need one anymore cause the only thing you'll shoot will be blanks

>>29303333
>yurocuck thinks shooting lrn will make you sterile

Wasted quads.

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>>29302513
There's pic related.

Some anon on here shoots .300BLK for 7 cents per round.

He picks up .223 brass at ranges, then he resizes it.
He digs up lead from shooting berms, then recasts it into .308 projectiles which he used a red powder coating on.

Accuracy is supposedly passable and he has no problem with lead shearing off into the gas-port. It just goes to show, if you're creative, you can shoot pricier ammo for plenty cheap.

Speaking of which, when are we gonna see Wolf/Tula steelcase .300BLK?

>>29303214
Lead is an issue if directly ingested, where it can cause buildup and eventual damage, or if inhaled, where it can cause severe poisoning.

Ventilate properly and wear a respirator, then you'll not get poisoned. Wear gloves, and/or wash your hands thoroughly after shooting or reloading.

>>29303518
you don't say...

>>29303502
Yeah, but reloads can always be made cheap. I'm talking just as some true "how low can you go", especially for stuff like 9x18, where brass gets sent to the next county.

>>29303523
>Worries about fumes from lead bullets
>likely lives in a city/town with cars

Wash your hands after you shoot or reload and you'll be fine. I know people who cast lead that have sub average lead levels.

>>29303502
They said next quarter like 5 quarters ago...

>>29296924
Holy crap
You could use these to color code your handloads
>red: highest pressure
>purple: lowest pressure
Or
>green: tier 1 bullets
>blue: tier 2 bullets
>red: tier 3 bullets

>>29299643
>green is acid
>orange is flame
>blue is freeze

>>29303502
>It just goes to show, if you're creative, you can shoot pricier ammo for plenty cheap
not creative, it's time investment

I can spend 5 minutes in a store (physical or online) and get the ammo, paying a premium for not just the physical goods but the services involved in making/shipping/warehousing/inventory

or I can spend all goddamn day digging in the dirt and milling used brass, paying the overhead on casting and milling and reloading equipment, and powder coating, etc etc etc myself.

>Fast
>Cheap
>Good
pick only 2