QTDDTOT

>>29263576
>why are Glock mags such a pain in the ass to disassemble?
but they arent
maybe that specific extension is a bitch but normal ones are average difficulty to take apart

>>29263576
Had to do a little creative googling, but it was made by Scherer.

>Scherer Supplies Box 250 Ewing, VA 24248

>>29263576
>>29263689

Scherer a shit.

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>>29263638
They have the stupid little side tabs that require either a clamp or pliers to apply pressure in addition to depressing the little button and sliding the plate off.

That being said, I've seen people drop loaded mags and having the baseplate fly off, letting the contents explode everywhere. I don't see this happening with Glock mags.

>>29263689
>>29263837
Thanks. So Scherer sucks then?

I'll believe it. The only reason I asked to begin with is this extension seems pretty crudely made.

Pic related.

looks a shit bruh.

i use pg2733 on mine, it only adds +1 capacity but it looks factory and feels great.

>>29263898

You shouldn't actually have to squeeze the sides. Those extensions are just garbage.

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Is buying an AR a good first rifle choice? I've wanted a nugget and sks as well but I'm hearing surplus isn't so good anymore. Does anyone have any guides for first rifles, or ARs specifically?

>>29263945

Literally buy any lower and then a PSA rifle kit, but not a Freedom kit.

>>29263898
>They have the stupid little side tabs that require either a clamp or pliers to apply pressure in addition to depressing the little button and sliding the plate off.
you dont need pliers or anything
just shove a pen or punch thru the hole and yank forwards to remove the floorplate

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Should I bother buying a Makarov?(and which make, Dick grips Russian or Polish Black?) they seem pretty great for the price and ammo cost is decent. I own 3 revolvers and a shitty pocket SNP .25 so no real semi auto pistol yet(but have access, for ranges atleast, too a 659/6506 S&W stainless 9mm and a Sig p220 of my dads)

My other choices in that 259-300ish price range is a Star model B(pretty nice but way a ton for only 8-9 round capacity), cost normally 230-300. A Astra Constable .380(think PPK and Taxi Driver), cost 250-350.

Surplus Jericho, 300-385(wanna get one anyway but even if you suggest this one, give your opinions on the others) FEG hi power knock off, don't know much about them but hear good things. Seem too be out of stock on a lot of surplus sites. Or go for a Belgium Hi Power for 435?

Also interested in a Beretta Jetfire fliptop pocket mouse pistol, normally 200-350, also come in .22 short, .22 lr, .25, .32.

>>29263945
>Is buying an AR a good first rifle choice?

Yes. They're the best first rifle, IMO.

>Does anyone have any guides for first rifles, or ARs specifically?

Any stripped lower + a PSA or Del-Ton parts kit. Perfectly adequate for what 99% of people are ever going to use an AR for.

If you can put together a lego set you can put together an AR.

>>29263977

>putting Del Ton anywhere near the same league as PSA

Del Ton is right there with PTAC and ATI. Fucking trash.

>>29263960
>My other choices in that 259-300ish price range is a Star model B(pretty nice but way a ton for only 8-9 round capacity),

If you'e down with Spanish guns, there is another model on the market. More recent, double stack, and much better sights.

http://www.southernohiogun.com/handguns/surplus-handguns/star-model-30-pistols-9mm.html

Built like a brick shithouse. Downside is spare mags are fuckexpemnsive and spare parts are non existent.

>>29263991
why are you pretending psa is some high standard to live up to?
excluding the fn chf which are actually really good for what you pay

deltons the same level as psa freedom,premium, and the melonited barrels

>>29264037

PSA isn't some high standard. It's upper middle tier that is assembled to milspec with good parts. Have you seen the horror stories about crooked PTAC barrels or the absolutely mad Del Ton BCG issues?

>>29264085
the delton shit bcg issue was resolved ages ago and was one run
if you search back long enough theres plenty of psa shitshows on their own psa branded uppers like midlengths shipped out with carbine gastubes installed various degrees of fsb cant and other horror stories like everything involving their ar 10s or ak

currently both delton and psa have their shit together and are pretty much equal

Any reason I should carry a revolver over a glock?

Where can I buy a Taser or similiar non-lethal carry product without getting jewed /k/? What non-lethal is worth carrying? I ask because I'm under 21 and live in cuckville

>>29264210

No.

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How effective would .410 dart or flechette rounds be out of a derringer or other short barreled handgun?
Is there a difference between dart and flechette rounds?
Are they even worthwhile for self defense?

>>29263576

They're pretty easy to disassemble.

>>29264527
Well flechettes are shit out of a 12ga, so just imagine their performance from a .410, nevermind out of a handgun.

>Is there a difference between dart and flechette rounds?
No. Americans hate French things and can't pronounce the words so we started calling them "dart" rounds.

>Are they even worthwhile for self defense?
No. They were created to cut through thick brush, which they do OK, but penetration and terminal performance is garbage. There's a reason nobody uses them in any capacity anymore.

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>>29263576
>Old thread's last the bumo limit. Long live the new thread
No it is not, you fucking faggot as shithead OP.
http://boards.4chan.org/k/thread/29222476/qtddtot#bottom

Fucking kill yourself. Stop shitting up the board and lurk more.

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I own the cheap ass S&W mp-15 sport fuckin' Ar, the one with no forward assist or dust cover.
Can I just order an upper off the interwebs and slap that shit on? Is that how that shit works?

>>29264638
Is the bump limit no longer 250?

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>>29264633
>flechette/dark shotgun rounds suck bad
Why do they suck though? Not heavy enough per dart? Too much drag, too slow? What is wrong with them, I know the symptoms but what's causing this cancer?

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>>29264677
>herp derp /k/aptain /K/urt

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>>29264210
If you like them better and want a stronger bullet. Pretty much it. Good middle ground is carry both.

>>29264753
>that pic
FLAWDA

>>29263576
I want a K-Frame .38 special. Should I get a Model 10 or a Model 15?

>>29263638
you havent met the newer Gen3 and Gen4 mags..... You'll find out soon enough. Glock decided to fuck with Perfection some more, and drove it further down the shitter. They still havent fixed the slight gap from keeping it loaded all the time, but they decide to make it damn near impossible to take off the base plate.

>>29263898
>this extension seems pretty crudely made.
looks like injected molded plastic... what is so crude about it? You gonna complain about those lines on the back of the glock mag that you can catch with your fingernail, or how the numbered holes are not exactly centered with the metal holes?

>>29264860
The only discernible difference between the Model 10 and Model 15 is that the Model 15 has target sights whereas the Model 10 has fixed sights.

It all boils down to if you want target sights or fixed sights.

>>29263960
Bulgarian. J&G has the whole get-up for $299+ship&ffl

well worth it imo. Just make sure you get the 'bubble' slide release instead of the 'bent tab' type

>>29264085
>PSA isn't some high standard. It's upper middle tier
its PieceofShitArmory. Literally low to low-middle tier.

>>29264210
why not carry a brick instead? weighs just as much as your revolver, and about as ergo as well.

>>29264307
none.

>>29264527
check your state laws, most say no. and if they dont, prosecutor prolly gonna have a field day if it goes to court.

>>29264662
sell it and get one that doesnt come with missing parts standard.

>>29264698
dont listen to that retard. they are not popular because it is hard to control spread with a choke without fucking up the gun/barrel, and ballistic performance isnt as optimal as a .38 BB. honestly I think it has to do with cost and humane-ness.

should I get a sig 2022, a Sig p320, or a glock 17? it will need to survive being in a car (windows rolled up) in an area with outdoor temps of 109 F / 43 C

>>29264860
In my experience, if they are adjustable you never have to touch them and if they are fixed they need adjustment.

I would prefer to have a Model 15 so I may adjust the sights if I need to, otherwise with the Model 10 you have to test it with different bullet weights to find the right elevation and then you can drift the front blade for windage. Then only use the same ammo or ammo you have also tested for point of aim.

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>>29264860
I say just get a k frame .357, like a 13/65(.357 form of a model 10) or a 19/66(.357 form of a 15) 65/66 are stainless.

>>29264938
Don't K frames have a problem with .357 Magnum ammunition? It's my understanding that's why the L frame was introduced.

>>29263960
I dont recommend the Beretta Jetfire, had a .25 model that sucked. Only gun I've ever fired where the bullet didnt leave the barrel. Besides that the little switch to flip the top broke (it was brand new when I got it, only had it for a few months before the switch just snapped off). I hate to admit this, because I wanted to love the little .25acp round even though everyone said it was useless. Well, I found its true. Useless, doubt it would pierce a heavy winter coat.

>>29264930
Browning Hi-power.

One of the IMI trade-in's from AIMSurplus should work.

otherwise G17 threaded.

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>>29264955
Not really, but a L frame is better with it, you can shoot a lot of .357 no problem from a K frame, but good too switch it up with .38 special.

Is it really necessary to beadblast/ sandblast carbon steel parts before parkerizing? I have a couple small parts that I would like to park myself, but blasting equipment is beyond what I want to invest for such a small job.

>>29264964
any particular reason you recommend the hi power?

>>29264955

Like >>29264971 said, 357 is quite adequate in a k frame generally. However, you probably want to balance out that diet with 38s for target practice, and also stick to shooting heavier 158 grain loads as opposed to the hotter shooting 125 grain bullets if you can

>>29264980
metal doesnt melt, and its pretty cheap for the one I recommended. Its a truck gun, not your carry piece.

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>>29264930
Ruger SP 101.

>>29264992
>>29265013
so it sounds like polymer is no good for roasting in a give box. I was worried about that. thanks for the info

>>29265013
>not the .357

whoops

>>29265042
Glock will survive. But other plastics will not.

Best to just be safe and buy a all metal gun with wood grips.

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>>29263576
Anybody know if this is a pretty worn out barrel for a Jericho 941?

>>29265045
Posted the wrong image mang. Didn't even know they made that in a .38 variant, know they made a 9mm with moon clips one briefly.

>>29266702
is it an original 941R or F? does it have polygonal rifling? b.c. that could be part of your confusion

>>29266702
>>29266886
in other words looks great to me anon! buy it

>>29263576
Buy Magpul Glock mags like me, superior disassembly.

>>29263898
>Scherer sucks then?
No, they're fine. A pinky etender really helps when gripping and firing the gun.

>>29266894
>>29266886
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=546725098

This

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Any word on the Glock 40 and when it´s coming out?

>>29264698
They're too small and light and penetrate like absolute dogshit.

>>29267475
It's been out for a while, Glock is just having trouble keeping up with demand. They pissed a lot of people off a couple months ago when they cancelled a bunch of the original orders so they could fill newer ones.

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If you and a bro are stranded somewhere without sustenance could you blow your loads into eachother's mouths and eat the nut for protein?

>>29263576
I just bought my first handgun (m&p shield) and it shoots great and everything but im having trouble dropping the mag after shooting. After I fire off that last round and the slide locks back, I can't just eject the mag by pressing the mag release for some reason and it even does that when I lock back the slide when the gun is empty and I still cant drop the mag. It'll eject just a little bit (like 1/16th of an inch) then it just gets stuck there unless you press the mag release a few times or shake the gun while dropping the mag. Any thoughts?

anyone have any experience feeding wolf steel case ammo to a springfield garand? my buddy just picked one up and was wondering if there might be feed or function issues associated with it

>>29267687

kinda want an answer for this.

Odd pic request: does anyone have a full-size 1911 and an HK P30L they could compare? I am mainly interested in their height, slide width, and a shot of the two mag wells side by side.

What's a good 1-4x optic for my 6920 that's around 300 or less?

Squid dead?

>>29268644
Helicopter accident.

>>29267687
>>29268135
As long as you have the aftermarket adjustable gas plug it should work no problem, just start from full open until it starts ejecting.

>>29263951
Why no PSA freedom upper?
(Asking for a friend)

Anyone know where I can get a custom image on grips for a 92fs? Been looking all day and no luck.

>>29268752
If you want aluminum grips, Alumagrips makes custom ones

http://www.alumagrips.com/products/beretta

Should I get a bersa thunder 380 plus or a shield 9mm?

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>>29263576
recently got this pretty sure its not a type 99 but what is it?

>>29263576
I have a couple of these Scherer +2 extensions too. All the complaints I hear are that they feel cheap and/or leave a gap between the grip and extension. Never heard anyone say they didn't work well though.

Are Scherer extensions at least reliable, /k/? I attached one and it didn't leave a gap, so if it works OK I might use it.

>>29267639
>>29267639
>>29267639
>>29267639
>>29267639
pls respond

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Should I buy a Glock 22? Wanna get one because of Payday 2, kinda want a Glock and already got or got my eye on many other 9mm's.

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>Q: looking for a WOI poem.
It is about a gas attack that killed a soldier. He enters valhalla and all the other heroes look at him since he seemed to have no physical injuries. Then they learn that he gave his own life to sound a bell, alarming all the other soldiers thus saving their lives. Then they see that his face is bleak.

pic unrelated

>>29268752
https://vzgrips.com/

>>29270115
Where do you think your jizz and the nutrients in it come from? Every time you blow a load in your boyfriend's mouth you're just transferring some protein to him from you.

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Where can I find some good info on how to reweld a demilled receiver?

>>29270222
Buy whatever the fuck you want if it makes you happy. Also I think 9mm conversion barrels exist in case you end up hating .40.

Try to look for a police trade in btw. Normally lightly used and they go for $350.

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>>29263945
Get an AR. PSA kits are good (fuck their PTAC/Budget line though). Avoid the first gen M&P sports simply because the gen 2's are just as cheap and have a fucking forward assist. Ruger AR is fine too for entry level shennanigans.

You could also save up for a BCM or Colt. They're pretty awesome.

>>29270341
Need this as well. Had it on the last phone, but now can't remember where I found it.

Indy Nidell (sp?) mentions it in 'the great war' YouTube series. I've no idea which episode that was, but its in there somewhere.

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>>29263576
am I allowed to buy guns, if I study over in the US?
yurofag here

I really want to study one semester abroad

>>29267681
Is your palm catching it? Is the back side of the mag release button running into your finger on the opposite side?

My Glock 30 does that. Both of them. Drives me bonkers. I'm looking for a new carry gun. I could train around it but I would prefer to get a gun that doesn't have that problem.

Maybe look for something taller like a Glock 19. Also look at HKs with the lever-type release, that way you don't even need to change your grip when you release the mag.

Deciding between a sig sauer 320f, walther p99 and p99c for first hand fun.
Wanted some opinions before i go and see how they feel.
suggestions are welcome, the max price i want to go is 600 dollars. Intended use would be defense as well as concealed carry. 6'4, 205 lbs, so a full size should still be moderately easy to conceal.

>>29267681
That's weird, mine will shoot the mag out as soon as I press the button. If I hold it with the barrel up and press the mag release the mag will fall 3-4 feet away. Maybe you got a lemon.

>>29271127
if its only one semester nope
its something like 6 months of residency + greencard to buy a gun im not actually sure on the number you can look it up yourself

>>29270341
I've got it screen capped on my iPad. Search rifleman brown.

>>29270341
http://monologues.co.uk/Military/Rifleman_Brown.htm

>>29271376
I´ve heard something about an "alien registration card" or something like that
it´s like a greencard, but only for 1, or 2 semesters (1/2 and 1 year)

Is getting a USP 45 worth? I want a .45 ACP handgun with mag capacity over 10 that's not a G21 or an XD45. What are my options.

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>>29263576

I'm looking for a striker fired pistol that will fit my Beretta sized hands, should I get a p320?

>>29271963
Try a Glock Gen 3 or Gen 4 with the larger backstraps or FN FNS with the large curve backstrap. Source: I also have Beretta-sized hands and they fit me well.

Any suggestions for 10/22 takedown bull barrels?

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>>29264662
>tfw you didnt get the ruger ar556 for less and it has all the shit on it standard

>>29264662
Yes.

Question for /k/+/g/ posters

A buddy of mine from work is getting rid of a Dell Poweredge 2930 4U server with 4x 300GB 14000RPM SCSI drives and Windows Server 2008 preinstalled.

I felt bad just taking it since it's probably worth some money so he said that I can spot him a bit of ammo if I want. Said he was looking for x54r and x39 if I had it.

Would 200rds of x54r (pulled from spam can, still in paper bags) and 140rds of x39 (40rds Tula Steel and 100rds Brass-cased Bulgarian surplus) be a fair trade?

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Several questions I am now interested in knowing the answer to, and one question of my own:

Mine first; what is the cheapest HIGHQUALITY 20 round STANAG magazine? Anything I should know about these? Are the curved 20s better or worse than straight (functionally)?

>questions from other thread

1. What's the HOTTEST round that any Mauser C96 pistol chambered? Is there a "upper limit" to how much that design could handle, similar to blowbacks' upper feasible limit?

2. What is the ideal bayonet? Spike or Knife, or something else?

3. Did Ned Kelly leave behind any memoirs or accounts of what it was like wearing his (nearly full body)bulletproof armor? I want to know how able a he was to actually tolerate the impacts, even if they were not penetrating.

I understand the armor was rigid, but you don't get a face full of .303 at nearly point blank without at least some ringing in your ears.

4. What's the legality of a FULLY USA MADE rifle with a removeable stock?

Does it need to be unfireable when stock is removed? Or does it just get classified as some braindead bureaucratic nonsense word that means "gibs unka sambo dat monies" and your personal information for a stamp?

>>29270077
/k/ pls respond

Would like to know if Scherer extensions have reliability problems or if they just look/feel like shit

>4. What's the legality of a FULLY USA MADE rifle with a removeable stock?

Nothing illegal about it. You can take an AR's stock off with the push of a button and it's OK.

>>29274414
I mean shooting it with the stock off. I imagine OAL comes into play, and it also applies to folded stocks I bet.

>>29274868
OAL for folding stocks is the measurement with the stock extended.

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What has more utility?

A 45-70 gov't with whatever additional rounds it can safely chamber, or a .454 casual lengthened to accept 3" .410 rounds and then whatever else can be safely chambered.

I am making a AK pistol truckgun thing. Must shoot .410 for snakes and general farm shit. Then I want whichever gives me the most utility for standard rounds. Also considering magazine availability.

Should I bother upgrading my AR charging handle and bcg to a raptor and cryptic bcg, or just buy amother handgun or an ak

What's a good price for a glock 30? Trying to find some online but I'm seeing them new for $650? How the hell is that possible when you can get different models for like $100 less?

>Maritime Weapons Law
Someone explain it for the rest of us, USA-centric.

>>29271173
No its not I kept on practicing but I think it just might be 2 of my mags and yea Im probably going to get a glock 19 as my next handgun.

>>29271362
Yea im planning on testing my mags out with someone at the range I go to . Hopefully Its just the mags

>>29275106
I got mine as a gift, so I don't know, but I would caution you against it. I hate mine now. It pinches my dominant hand pinky during recoil, and releasing the mag is annoying because it catches on my palm and the mag release button pokes into my middle finger on the opposite side, making me have to change my grip significantly to get the stupid mag to drop.

It's also not much smaller than a Glock 21 (if you are hell bent on .45) and even closer in size to a 19, and the 17 in between that. The size difference between the three is even negligible. Also the ammo is cheaper and the mags are higher capacity for no loss in lethality. It's pretty hard to justify the Glock 30 with any real logic besides "I like it."

I know your question wasn't to shit on your choice of sidearm, but I gave my opinion anyway. So there.

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>>29275058
>45-70
>.454 casull
>.410
>AK pistol

wat

Are there any good shoulder holsters that aren't $150+? my back is shit and it's uncomfortable as hell for me to carry and sit. I want a shoulder holster but don't want to pay $150 for a Miami classic

>>29276464
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Dsporting&field-keywords=galco+classic+lite

>>29275058
.458 SOCOM senpai
Have fun blowing yourself up

>>29270879
I've been following "the great war" for a rather long time and haven't heard him mentioning it. So it must have been a while back.

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>>29271384
>>29271398
thanks /k/omrades!

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/K/ I recently purchased an EAA witness steel in .38 super and was wondering how I would go about getting a decent set of glow sights installed
Or perhaps a replacement rear sight maybe an optic of some kind
Pic related my pistol

>>29276348
That actually don't sound like a bad idea
A Taurus judge can fire 45 colt and .410 shot shells why can't we have an ak that can do the same
How well do you think you could cc an ak pistol loaded with .410 3" 000?

>>29274363
BUMPING

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As far as I know they never been imported in the states but is there ever going too be a chance or how would a company go about importing a Japanese gun like a Nambu Model 60, a police revolver(I know S&W was gonna remake the gun in the U.S. Under some japanesey name that begins with a Sa) they make ones that shoot .38 special, .38(9mm), 9mm with moon clips and 8mm and some other Japanese only cartridge.

>>29271877
HK45, FNX45, FNS45

There's more but I'll start you off with those since you showed interest in the USP

>>29263945
AR-15 is fine, teachs you how to work on a more mordern rifle plus you own an AR, sks you have to do your research (Albanian and certain yugos are to be avoided due to lakc of chrome barrel) Chinese and Russian are good. as for AR's build your own or I suggest get a bare bones model like the colt 6920 OEM2 OR STAG arms )and work on them form their build your own if your ready,

>>29277744
Do they do a #1 .410?

>>29274045
That seems pretty fair to me hombre

>>29277945
Why the fuck you want this thing so bad anyway, nambunigga?

>>29278175
>FNS45

Wh?

>>29263576
Do they make a g26 with a rail? Why the fuck does glock think less features = good?

>>29276549
thanks anon!

While camping how retarded is it to sleep in a hammock with a handgun in your IWB holster?

For the sake of argument lets assume its glock 19 without one in the chamber and i don't want to have any ND's.

Soon to be hasguns europoor.

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>>29278246
No, they don't. All I can think of is they tested it and it didn't work out. That doesn't stop people from dremeling their own, though.

>>29278501
Why would that be retarded? I've fallen asleep still carrying in an IWB holster. The point of a holster is the gun is secure. It isn't going to go off or fall out on its own.

>>29278569
Just trying to prevent another "/k/ i fucked up.." thread.

>>29278607
As long as the holster isn't one of those shitty nylon pouches with zero retention, I don't foresee any issues. It's perfectly safe.

Reassembling a nugget after cleaning the cosmo off.

It didn't come with the tools to adjust and measure the firing pin.

Worth taking to a gunsmith and have them charge me a bullshit amount or just buy a spare and do it myself?

>>29278620
Will keep that in mind, thanks anon.

Let's say you were about to be run down by the anal-grapest, all you've got is you .300blk AR an a stanag mag full of 5.56.

Could you make use of the 5.56 at all, hotdog down a hallway, in that .308 barrel?

Would it even fire?

Would you be a nailed grape?

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>>29278211
probably the same reason I like japanese firearms
their history is very interesting

>>29263576
foor a glock 26 I'd go with the glock +2s or the flat GAP floorplate

>>29263576
If the absolute minimum OAL for my AR pistol is 28", can I put a VFG on it?
It send that at that point it's gone from "pistol" to "firearm", and that it would be OK.

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Is there a name for this meme? I always think of it as "face-touching guy."

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Purely hypothetical. What'd be a better cartridge for suicide? 00 Magnum 12-gauge from a shotgun or a large handgun cartridge like 44Mag/45LC. Or a large rifle cartridge like 300 Weatherby or 300 Win Mag?

What'd be the best position to assume and location for application of your answer?

>>29280776
.50BMG
Point at foot
Bang
Ded

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I don't shit about German weapons.

On g3 type rifles, if they come with a welded rail can you just swap out the top like you would an AR upper?

Really tempted to get a ptr 32, but the rail is off putting. I just want my basic bitch iron sights.

>>29280505
"Feels Good" meme

>>29281012
The top is the part with a serial number, and is permanently pressed into the barrel/trunnion. If it bothers you that much, you could TRY dremeling off the tack welds on the rail.

>>29281128
I see, thanks for the info. It'll be a nice diy project, I guess.

>>29268615
Good
Variable mag
300 dollarydoos

Honestly not much. I'd do a little more and go with a Vortex PST, SWFA, Buriss MTAC. Primary Arms is the only one that fits that bill honestly.

>>29280209
Minimum OAL for a rifle is 26" measured with the stock fully extended/unfolded. A pistol is something under 26" with no stock. If your AR is over 26" you can put a VFG on it no problem.

If you have an AR "pistol" that's actually 28" long, it's not a pistol, it's a "firearm", yeah. So you're right, a VFG is fine.

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>>29281543
Cool, I wanted at least one other person to confirm/ deny that idea.
"pistol" is definitely 28".

Need new carry gun, double stack a must, preferably .45. budget of $750 for gun/holster/mags. What get?

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>>29263576
I understand the rifled barrel of the challenger is an inferior solution to the smoothbore ones of other western MBT, could someone explain me how and why?
Many thanks.

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Would this be a relatively good/safe place to shoot? Its a fairly abandoned/unused pit that belonged to a gravel company, they still operate in the county but some people have already set up deer blinds etc..

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>>29282086
Last one. You can see a large mound with flat ground in front of it, seems like a decent place to set a small bench perhaps

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I may be moving out soon on less-than-favorable terms with my parents. My father was the one who purchased all of my firearms. My concern is that if I leave and take my guns, they could report them stolen. I doubt they would do this, but I would still like to be the legal owner of these firearms. Should I have my dad sign a paper saying that he transferred them to me, with the serial numbers? Would I need to have us both sign it before a notary? I dunno what I'm doing, pls help /k/

Have my attempt to draw an AR-Pattern rifle in MS paint in under a minute to laugh at in payment

After SHTF, how long will it take for the psychotic edgelords to all kill each other off?

>>29281906
Anyone?

Just got my handgun purchase permit, and I think I'm gonna go buy a Ruger American Pistol tomorrow. I don't like the look of glocks, and I only have about $750 total to spend on gun + lockbox + ammo/accessories, so it seems like it hits the right quality:price level. Thoughts?

>>29283026
The gold standard is Glock.

>>29282632
They never managed to get to that point in Chechnya, so I imagine a few years at least. If they're not all dead by that point, the UN will have swept up a decent amount.

Would it be a good idea to buy an airsoft glock to try a trigger guard, ridge removal and stippling mod on before I rip apart my glock with a dremel?

Nogunz here

What makes a good gun?
I try to lurk here to learn and I see people drooling over different guns, but at the end of the day, isn't any bullet hurling device going to destroy a target (besides bullet size I suppose)

Help me see the light

>>29263576
I'm stuck between buying a Mossberg 590A1 and a Mossberg 835 for home defense.

Barrel length is not an issue for me, I could easily maneuver a Barrett around my house (floor plan is pretty open). I like the 835's ability to shoot magnum loads, but I like the heavy barrel and the heat shield appearance on the 590A1.

Any thoughts/suggestions?

>>29284231
Reliability, durability, ergonomics and ease of use, recoil control, magazine capacity, accuracy (both mechanical accuracy and accuracy potential), modularity, ease of maintenance, finish, size, weight, etc.

There are a lot of factors, and everyone has a few they value more than others.

>>29284405
What is a good way to get into gun ownership? I don't think i'm gonna hunt, just an entry level target shooting gun

>>29284335
You mean 3.5" "super magnum" loads? Because the 590 has a 3" (magnum) chamber already.


You should be loading 2 3/4" cartridges for home defense anyway. Loading mag or supermag ammo is going to hinder you a lot more than help.

>>29284443
Any .22 rifle. Shoot cans, not paper. You get this immediate sense of PING!!1!!!!11 feedback and your whole nervous system lights up. With paper you don't know what you did right or wrong.

>>29284487
Is it legal to shoot cans outside of a range?
I live in florida but I live in a suburb with a pretty small backyard

>>29284443
That's alright, the vast majority of gun owners don't hunt either. For most it's for recreation and/or defense.

I'd say find a local range that rents guns, if possible. Even better, if you know someone who owns guns ask them to take you shooting. Ask around... I didn't think I knew anyone who owned guns instead I started talking about it, suddenly a bunch of family and friends revealed they were gun owners.

Also, read up on gun safety and watch a gun of YouTube videos. It might seem weird but YouTube is a FANTASTIC resource for learning about guns. You can find everythig from basics on how to operate guns and gun safety, to in depth reviews of specific models, to advanced gunsmithing videos and everything in between. YouTube has a massive community of gun owners and there's just endless content.

>>29284487
Also this. Buy a .22 rifle or pistol, your choice, and just start shooting. Get yourself use to it. There's nothing wrong with shooting paper but shooting cans is a lot more satisfying.

>>29284513
You can generally shoot anywhere it isn't prohibited. If you live in a city or town it's almost guaranteed that there's an ordinance against discharging firearms. Look for local ranges or public land where shooting is allowed. Eg. Where I live in Michigan there's a public outdoor gravel pit that's used as a shooting range and totally free. Join some FL gun forums and ask where you can go shoot. Also might as well brush up on local laws there.

>>29284513
No idea what your local laws are, but there are ranges that allow reactive targets.

>>29281188
>Hope i'm not too late
It should be possible to find a PTR without that rail. Hard, but not impossible.

>>29263576
Can I have the most recent pic of /k/ approved 9mm handguns?

Sometimes my Remington 11-48 will cycle but the next shell won't make it into the chamber, leading to the bolt getting stuck on the shell. Is this a problem with the lifter not going all the way or the bolt not moving back far enough? This only happens rarely and with no particular ammo but I'm still curious.

>>29284622
Really? That's good to know. I'll have to keep an eye for them.

Was it some limited production run or does it just have a different/special name?

Thanks for the info.

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Why hasn't someone made hunting sized revolvers with the Nagant Pistol's moving cylinder system? It's super fucking simple, and eliminates cylinder gap. OH, and the gun would actually be useful for work, unlike the "range toy" finicky Desert Eagle (currently the only large bore hunting handgun without cylinder gap).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUS-rcb5R-o

>>29286781
>>29286781
Because cylinder gap doesn't really matter. It's not worth the extra complexity and retard-heavy trigger to alleviate a problem that doesn't exist.

>>29286910
>retard-heavy trigger
We can rebuild it, make it better/lighter than it was before.

>>29279871
I figured a tv show.

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>>29279871
>>29287084
Would any of you know the any reason why these haven't been imported? Or any reason keeping Jap guns from being imported?

>>29277945

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So I'm gonna get the Gen II Vector when it becomes available but I don't know what caliber to get.
I'm going to be SBRing and suppressing it.
9mm has better capacity but on the other hand .45 suppresses better.

>>29270700
Are you trying to make it functional or just look functional.

>>29271877
Double stack 1911. CZ97. EAA makes some as well.

>>29274363
Cheap and high quality don't really go together. I've used straight usgi ones and they worked with no issus. I also keep a couple curved 20rd E-Landers. They cost alot more than usgi but they are solid fucking magazines, they make usgi ones feel like a tin can. Also the black finish is durable and sexy as fuck. I use their 30rd ones almost exclusively. The Jews make a fine magazine.

>>29282125
If its privately owned you'll need permission. Don't be that prick that shoots up other people's land.

/K/ how do I into making a kydex holster for my EAA witness

>>29287406
>.45 suppresses better

This is such a stupid fucking idea and I wish people would stop saying it.

.45 does not suppress better. It's louder than 9mm. When people say this they mean "most .45 ammo is subsonic by default" which really doesn't mean a damn thing. There's tons of subsonic 9mm commonly available and it's quieter than .45 is. And cheaper. And just as effective.

So I say get 9mm.

anyone have any experience rebluing revolvers? i'm currently in the process of rebluing my taurus 689 .357, i'm having trouble getting the blue to work on the frame, anyone have any advice?

>>29263576

I use Glock OEM extensions on all my G17 mags

Should I make wax slugs? Is it fun to shoot shit with em?

>>29263576
what is the 9mm of revolvers? 38sp?

also, what is the glock of revolvers?

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My dick yearns for pic related, have government credits for acquisition but have no idea if I'll be disappointed. Anyone shot one of these pea shooters?

>>29293368
Basically, but a bit better, and they have moon clip 9mm revolvers(poplar for Japanese police).

>>29293416
Fucking get it

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>>29293416
https://youtu.be/AXysAcWNtUI
https://youtu.be/h0ACX6ZcqTU

>>29293416
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0ACX6ZcqTU

>>29293368
>what is the 9mm of revolvers?

9mm.

If you mean what's the most common calibre, then yeah .38 Special. It's been around since 1899 and has been the defacto revokver cartridge for a long time. It isn't going anywhere.

>>29293416
They're real fuckin' neato. Would've been real fuckin' NATO too if it weren't for German butthurt.

Get one. It's the best time as Federal FMJ is inexpensive and plentiful.

>>29293469
>>29293480
I cry everytime. Why does he have too be dying. I'm fine if he never does any more videos, but why does he have too be dying?

>>29293448
>>29293484
is there a 'glock' of revolvers? i mean a revolver that you can't go wrong with - reliable, proven, common, popular, average price... someone everyone could recommend?

>>29289256
Yeah you're absolutely right, that's what I meant.

I'll go with 9mm then, thank you.

>>29263576
How long does warranty usually take? Its been 3 weeks already and still nothing. Also if i dropped the gun off at a approved gunstore for the warranty, do they ship it back to the store or my house? A lot of dindus and spics live near me so i wouldnt want them to ship it to my door and leave it there!

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>>29293657
Most Smiths, let's say a model 10. Or actually, fucking Rugers, most won't break the bank, and built like fucking tanks.

Who decides what dimensions to make a new cartridge? Like, why was 7.62x51 chosen over, say, 7.62x49, or x53?

Will an AR-15 bayonet fit onto a M&P15-22?

>>29293657
S&W Model 10. Just like the .38 Special, been around since 1899 and has been in continuous production since. It's seen use on every corner of the earth and has spawned countless copies. Can't go wrong.

>>29264662
Yes, that's how it works.

>>29294489
No. It has a free-floating quad rail, not a normal AR-15 FSB with a bayonet lug.

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Are there any 'stances' for better shooting? I mean, like prone for rifle, standing for handguns, etc.

>>29294795
What your hands and wrists are doing is more important than what your feet are. Proper pistol shooting can be done standing, kneeling, even walking.

>>29294893
/tg/ here, was wondering if there is anything like 'stances' that would give better bonuses to aim. Maybe not stances, something else? Like a specific 'technique'? I don't even know.

I know jack shit bout milsurp, is this one of the Norinco sks that take ak mags or are they proprietary/modefied

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=547544349#PIC

>>29295513
Thats a yugo SKS with a detachable mag. Tapco makes a similar detachable mag, they sort of suck

>>29295526
That's sad because I wanted mags plus the extra fun of the bayonet :(

>>29295526
How about this one
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=548136344#PIC

>>29282305
Look at having him sign a bill of sale for all the firearms. I'm not sure if it has to be notarized or not. Google a bill of sale template or something.

>>29278910
I'd say that the cartridge would be pushed into the barrel and not clip into the bolt, so the firing pin wouldn't make contact with the primer. I don't actually know the physical dimensions of all that stuff though.

>>29296788
.300blk and 5.56 use the same damn bolt.

Really only the barrel changes.

Can someone tell me what the fuck is up with the NFA? Why has it not been repealed?

Does the A-10s GAU cannon move at all or does the pilot have to be goimg straight towards his target?

What are some long lasting swat/combat boots?

>>29299510
For everyday use

>>29298537
That's what I meant, doest the extractor snap over the edge of the cartridge after it goes into the barrel chamber. If the barrel was big enough, it would just push the whole thing down the barrel.

>>29299578
There's really only one way to find out for sure.

>>29263991
Incorrect.

>>29268615
Millet dmr

What's a good .22lr for a first rifle? I read the wiki article but didn't really get a good sense for WHY some of them are better than others.

If it matters, I've done some sporting clays with shotguns a few times.

>>29276329
I have a 36 and swapping to aftermarket mag bases was a must. I sent it into glock because it was jamming a ton and they but the factory plates back on and I was super annoyed.

I use the Pearce +0 plates on all 5 mags and the pinching issue is now non existent.

Why glock can't figure out decent mag plates is beyond me. Also tried their +2 factory mags for the 26, and they were weak sauce compared to the Pearce and schrere mag plates I have.

>>29270077
>Are Scherer extensions at least reliable
Yes. I have a Glock 26 and can't shoot it without the pinky extender. It's also never jammed the gun or fallen off. The 1 or 2 extra rounds is nice.

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So /k/, got a hypothetical scenario in mind. Let's say a fella lived in Chicago, which as all little children know has an Assault Weapons Ban, and was stuck there for at least another couple months. Let's further say he saw an armslist post for a private sale for a rifle that was quite illegal under the terms of the Chicago AWB. Could he buy it? Would it help if he had a storage unit in Indiana and kept it there? Would he be an idiot for even thinking about it? I hear that many Cook County gun owners ignore the ban, but that's also not the sort of thing you can ask without being all "greetings, fellow law-abiding gun owners."

>>29299312
Mainly because the only people who really, really want it repealed are anonymous weirdos like us. If you're not a gun guy you don't care. If you are a gun guy but have enough money for full-auto, you also don't much care. And once you get rid of full-auto, most gun owners aren't moved to legislative action over SBRs and so on.

Having said that, there is a bill in committee now to take suppressors off the NFA list, which would matter for essentially all shooters.

>>29299677
As semiautos go, Ruger 10/22 has best aftermarket and greatest customization potential, Marlins are cheaper and most accurate out of the box. Most of the rest are either shit (Mossberg) or more expensive than most people want for babby's first raifu (CZ). I personally went with Marlin 795LTR and an Appleseed shoot, since buying the tech-sights and sling bundled with the rifle is cheaper than buying them separately.

Should I zero my AR at 25 or 50 yards?

>>29299780
Storing it outside of the area? Totally fine.

>>29299780
There are people who have hundreds of thousands, in some cases millions, tied up in NFA stuff whose value would plummet overnight if the NFA got repealed. They don't want any legalization of NFA stuff thus.

>>29282305
I man should purchase his own firearms. Move out and offer to buy them from him when you can. Then he'll love you again

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>>29299853
Cool, good to know. Kinda worried about the seller asking to take a look at drivers' license, seeing the Cook County address, buyer says "yeah yeah but I have a storage unit!", seller goes all pic related.

>>29299844
I switched from 25 to 50. When you zero at 25 and shoot for 100, you have to aim like 10 inches low, but if you sight at 50 and shoot 100 you only have to aim like 3 inches low, and if you sight for 50 and shoot 25 you just aim an inch or two high.

>>29281768
AS LONG AS you barrel is also a minimum of 16" it is a rifle.

>>29300258
Please see

https:www.atf.govfirearms/docs/atf-national-firearms-act-handbook-chapter-2/download

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Does ammunition expire?

Ive been wanting to get into reloading, but wanted to stockpile powder, bullets, and casings. Then making about 10,000 rounds for eaxh caliber I shoot.

Then I want a separate stock pile of 2,000 for reach round i shoot.

The first stockpile to sit on for emergency food.
The second stockpile for actual use (target practice and hunting/defense)

But I dont want to spend all that money on food thats gonna expire when i need it.

What's the relationship between Firearms Policy Coalition and Firearms Policy Foundation, and are they good? Also, which should I join, CGF or CRPA?

>>29300329
>Does ammunition expire?
Not really. I've fired surplus ammo from as early as the 50s reliably, the Korean 30-06 ammo that used to be around. But also I've had 8mm mauser ammo that were duds every 3 rounds almost. It depends on how it is stored. Keep your ammo inside and dry.

>>29300702
>>29300329
What actually fails? The primers I assume. Is there anything a reloader can do to keep their rounds extra long-lasting? Aside from storage conditions.

>>29300702
So top shelf in case of floods, and whats the best storage option?

Wood crates sound like it would absorb incoming moisture, which soumds good unless its a shit ton of water. But wood also warps so the tolerances would be constantly shifting.

Metal ammo boxes dont seem water proof in appearance, but would do the complete opposite of wood, which might be good long term. Are there any better alternatives? Maybe an upscaled vacumsealed jar that is used for drugs? But vacuum sealing live ammunition doesnt sound safe.

Its humid year round here so Idk if that makes a difference.

>>29300329
I have nugget food from1946 on clips that I don't shoot that much (only because its the dirtiest ammo iv ever shot) but it shoots just fine when i do. Just seal it up real good in an ammo can and it will be fine.

>>29300717
Also would like to know this.. Except i would've assumed the powder got moist and duddy like a wet firework or a bic lighter you left in the wash

But my question is: can i store my mags fully loaded forever? Or at least until i need to use them? Or will that make the spring decide its comfy where its at, and effectively make them useless?

>>29300777
Learn how springs work.

The load isn't great enough, or even near it to pre-warp the spring into failure.

Most people's solution to the non existent problem you're worried about is to only load twenty eight cartridges in thirty rounds and eighteen in twenties, etc. Usually one or two rounds deloaded.

Don't bother doing it with pistols.

Can a 5.56 AK fire .223 and vice versa?

>>29300953
yes. All .223 marked AKs to my knowledge are capable of firing 5.56

>>29265042
One of my glocks stays in my car all the time and it's fine.

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>>29303216
Here is a picture of the box

1.) Is it possible to accurately "feel" the trigger pull on a centrefire gun without cocking it and "dry firing" it?
2.) Is it frowned upon to dry fire a centrefire pistol/long gun when purchasing? How would I accurately feel the trigger pull if so?

>>29303402
1.) Not that I know of
2.) Sometimes, It's best to ask before you go finger fucking a gun, A good merchant will let you feel the trigger once or twice before getting upset.

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I'm going to shoot my k98 tomorrow and I've never shot a gun besides some pistols. Will the recoil fug me up?

>>29300851
>Most people's solution to the non existent problem you're worried about is to only load twenty eight cartridges in thirty rounds and eighteen in twenties, etc. Usually one or two rounds deloaded.
saving springs is not the reason people download mags.
people load ar mags -2 to make inserting a mag on a closed bolt easy.
some people have trouble locking in a full usgi mag in with the bolt forwards

>>29303728
So i dont need to do this shit with my AK? Can load my 20 mags to 30 and put them in my safe?

Also, whats the best storage method for stockpiled ammo?

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>>29303477
yes, if youre worried, just do what I did till I got used to my nugget, take an extra shirt or towel and fold it up and put it on your shoulder. proper stance and holding it correctly is also very important. don't leave a gap between the butt and your shoulder, also don't place the butt too high or low, as it will hurt. after about 100 or so rounds, youll likely get used to it.

>>29264865
>how the numbered holes are not exactly centered with the metal holes?
Why do they do this?

>>29272767
If he has a Beretta, he has good aesthetic taste, so Glock is right out.

>>29303728
>>29303766

The only failure I've ever had with my AR was when I loaded a USGI to 30, left it loaded for several months, and then loaded it into my AR. The AR was also a bit dirty and not been lubed in awhile. I've never had an issue before with this gun, but I'd never used this mag before too.

I don't know exactly what caused it, I listed all the important variables though. What happened was the bolt failed to load the round all the way forward, had to manually (with muh fingas) remove the rather roughed up round. Second round fed fine.

I really need to just test the mag again, but I don't have time.

Aug or 805 bren?

Money is not a problem.

>>29303216
>>29303228
Corrosive Yugoslavian made .30-06 M2 ball

What is PVD coating on the Sig Legion?

I know it's vapor depositing of a thin layer but a thin layer of what? Functionally, what's it do? Is it like cerakote or like tennifer? Will rust? What is it?

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>>29306985
AUG A1/2>805 Bren>AUG A3

Just my scale though. I really dig the original Augs with the fixed sights and would definitely get one over the Bren. I'd get the Bren over the A3 just because I like czechnology and it would be a neat addition to my other czech shit. Additionally, if I want to get a "modern" bullpup I'd probably just get a tavor or wait for the mdr.

Just my $0.02 though.

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>>29263576
I have a.22lr upper for my AR, I want to know if I can put an airsoft tacticool muzzle break with QD suppressor on it. The thread is the same, but the break is made of T6061 alu, not steel. I really like the idea of having a QD suppressor on a .22lr but real ones go up to $800, and it's only a .22!

In my country suppressors are legal and practical for nocturnal pest control.

>tl:dr Muzzle break made of aluminium on a .22lr?

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Currently have an AR and a CZ and an opportunity to either purchase a usp tactical for 1050 or a SAM7FR for 1100 came up. Which one should i go for considering i have 1100 saved up atm.

>>29307152
Thanks, this is almost exactly my train of thought.

All the reviews make the bren look so smooth though...anyone fire one?

>>29275058
> .454 casual lengthened to accept 3" .410 rounds
Look up .460 S&W Magnum. Also yes. 3" .410 cambering will give you the greatest variety of rounds of any other gun period, save for 12 ga.

>>29276578
I wonder what would happen if you gave the AR-10 the .458 SOCOM/.50 Beowulf treatment. How big would the biggest cartridge we could fit into an AR-10 magazine be?

>>29287225
Jap laws are shit. That's why. Japanese political campaigns run on moral panic.

>>29307420
Would there ever be a way too get that done? Have a company like let's say aim surplus or century arms contact some part of the government or police armory and go about setting up a deal for that? Would that be possible?

>>29307378
There's a .460 S&W Magnum AK build already?

>>29287406
Why not just get a pistol one, do you even really need the stock for the ranges you be shooting? I already think of it as an oversized pistol just because of the caliber and typical barrel size for operationally operational models.

Also the ATF can't just backtrack on that sig-brace letter. We have to stand up for ourselves and fight that legally. Retro-active legislation is not something to be done lightly.

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What holster should I get for m new gun, a S&W model 13.

>>29293674
>>29289256
The .45 is still gonna be the top performing round, since your have a constant subsonic speed as a limiting factor for both rounds. .45 ACP rounds can provide more ft-lbs than 9mm can just because of its greater potential weight.

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>>29300741
If it's a good metal/plastic ammo can, it should have a rubber O-Ring in the lid to keep water out.

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>>29307052
Tried Googling it and just says PVD is a process.
Doesn't say what sig's coating actually is, neither does sig's site.

If nobody else knows, I'll try googling more in the morning.

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Any idea where I can get a round like this? Obviously not tact.

Would a ruger standard make for a bad first fun?

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What is this yellow/olive colored BS?

>>29307953
you can get dummy ones fairly easily

Whats a good option for a rear mounted red dot sight for a pistol

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>>29275058
Would it even be possible to have an AK cycle stronk 45-70 loads and then the relatively low pressure .410 rounds safely and reliably (and vice versa)?

>>29301065
...reverse that, retard.

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Would a new production made to spec Mauser C96, with the holster attached as a stock (see pic) be considered an SBR or would it have the same exception old as fuck C96s have?

If that is also on the exception list, what if it was made somewhat different, like able to handle 7.62tok?

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Probably a dumb question, but is there a way to download the dokument without the alphabet soup agencies knowing, or does torrenting do that anyways? I might be getting a job with the govt. and don't want that to show up on my background check and make me look like a fucking terrorist.

Does a suppressor do anything to make the round more accurate than it would otherwise be?

I want to do pic related basically, I will be shooting the same subsonic .45 eh see pee with the suppressor on and off. I was assuming that the length might have something of a satabilizing affect like some additional barrel would.

It isn't a deal breaker either way, just would be nice to get more of the potential out of this pistol.

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>>29312455
>>29312455
>>29312455
muh pic

>>29312455
Suppressors aren't as rigidly attached to barrels in the same way an extended barrel is literally a solid extension. So it's the same accuracy at best and way downhill from there.

>>29313035
>and way downhill from there
Are you suggesting a suppressor can make a firearm, with otherwise the same variables (ammo, etc) less accurate?

Secondly, barrel extensions are a fucking thing? Why don't we see more "carbine conversion" survival bull barrels for popular pistols then?

>>29313067
>Are you suggesting a suppressor can make a firearm, with otherwise the same variables (ammo, etc) less accurate?
It can. Maybe the suppressor is mounted perfectly for the first few shots, but then loosens up a little and starts walking. Now your accuracy is shit.

>Secondly, barrel extensions are a fucking thing?
I meant it more in a rifle sense. Like a full length barrel will be more accurate than it's SBR version at certain ranges.

>>29312428
please guys I've asked this in like three QTDDTO threads before this and never get an answer

>>29312428
>>29313248

download what document? highly unlikely that you are being monitored. Your internet service provider for internet access would handle in/out traffic so I suppose that there could exist records of your history/searches but you can use simple things like a web proxy to mix up your IP easily

>>29313315
I want to download The Do/k/ument, which is basically a 1tb anarchist's cookbook plus some other stuff. I already have the Ark, which is the file I need to torrent the whole thing. I was thinking about just using a proxy but wasn't sure if that would be sufficient.