C clamp

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>>28900230

fag

C clamp reporting

>>28900230

So is c clamp the new 'trigger discipline' meme that people use to act like they know what they are doing with a gun? If so good because I was getting tired of hearing td this and 'look at that lack of td' and shit.

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get yours here.
cclampcity.

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>>28900230
I got one of those, am I tactical enough?

>>28900278
Except TD is important as fuck m8, it's not a meme its a safety measure that should be implemented by all gun owners. The Clamp shit, the stance, thats all preferences and meming

>>28900307
High speed no drag

>>28900230

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=um8SswgKRPc

>>28900256
He looks so happy there. I wonder if he'll come back.

>>28900307
no

>not clamping an actual C-clamp to your forend and using it as a vertical foregrip
Plebs.

>>28900278
TD isn't a meme, people who post about TD in every piece of fiction are memes.

Its OK to point out TD to someone handling a real gun or as part of feedback to a video game that's trying to be realistic etc.
Tfw mgs5 has like supper td

I'm not very strong and it makes it harder to hold up.

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Tried it. Didn't like it. Sticking with the traditional way.

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>>28900331
>C-clamp
Get on my level, fag

>>28900320

Yes, it is very important, but like the clamp grip it's something relatively easy for posers to use to act like they are operational operators operating operationally

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Nice meme friend

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>>28900230
:3

>>28900324
>Open video
>Man wearing Gascans
>Man wearing Gascans OVER his toque
Yeah I'll pass on that one.

Magwell grip forever.

I don't care for the c-clamp on my AR. Didn't notice any improvement, maybe cause I'm 6'3" with lanky long arms

>>28900493
I don't on my AR but sometimes do on my AK, good stuff

>>28900528
Magwell grip on my PTR91 is mega comfy.

I like it... it feels comfy.

>Needing to C-Clamp when it barely has recoil to begin with
Topkek

>>28900493

this, anything else is faggot-tier shit

>>28900256
What the fuck is this shit?

>>28900493
Found a friend.
Literally the only comfortable and practical way to shoot an AR.

>>28900256
Dat suit tho

Conventional hold with an AFG is actually comfy as fuck

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>>28900230
>not hitting your intended target

Shot placement is key

What the hell is a C-clamp?

>>28900324
I'll let his argument and reasoning stand on its own. but putting "US marine" into the title as a form of appeal to authority really does nothing for me. IF theres a place thats stuffed with "fuddlore" and blind dogmas then it is the military. Depending on where/when they were taught and by whom then i get all kinds of ideas from soldiers(inb4 muhren) on how to do the job. So it really makes no sense to make a title like that unless its made to appeal to COD kids or people with no experience in the military.

>>28905881
Sour grapes much?
Just because you couldn't be a marine because of your autism doesn't mean you have to call them names on the internet

>>28900230
Not gonna lie that looks kind of painful, what does it do better then the traditional stance?

>>28905679
>Shot placement is key
>that lean
>22lr

>>28905937
Im not insulting marines in particular, im not even american so there were never any grapes to be reached for in the first place. But ive been taught how to shoot 4 different ways by the instructors in my countrys forces and i have likewise heard enough stories of weird shit in the marines for me to think that simply being a marine makes you an inherent authority on shooting matters. Surely you can agree with this.

>>28905957
not him but, out of the US military branches the Marines have placed the most emphasis on marksmanship. they have traditionally been the best shots as a general rule.

>>28905679
are you the guy posting target shooting posts and making threads about it the last few days?

feels like you are the new Brony

>>28905971
Im Aware, but is that not more like stationary sitting/kneeling stuff on 100-500 meters? In the vid its room clearing/IPSC stuff. that goes a bit above fundamental marksmanship skills. What he says makes sense though. its more the titles appeal to authority thats kinda weak.

>>28905957
Yeah, not to mention it depends on the gun you're using. Different stances/techniques might be better with different guns.

>>28900230
Won't make a difference unless you're using full auto.

source: testing

>>28905982
>are you the guy posting target shooting posts and making threads about it the last few days?
no, but all kidding aside I think the gun community needs to return to a greater focus on marksmanship and step away from this silly tactical focus when it comes to shooting.

>>28906015
They're usually the same thing.

Better grip = faster follow up shots.

>>28905991
>Won't make a difference unless you're using full auto
This.

I use C-Clamp on the final stage ot PWT3 qualification course and always get all my bursts on full auto on target with max points.

Source: Canadian Forces Soldier

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C clamp only work with a belt feed machine gun

>>28906044
>They're usually the same thing.
>Better grip = faster follow up shots.

no they are not.

There has been this trend to use the latest and greatest technique, gun fighting strategy, tactical equipment. People are being distracted by all this crap instead of nailing down the fundamentals. people will switch to practical shooting before they have mastered trigger control etc.

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>>28900230
>AR15
That is funny way to spell AK-74.

What is use of c clamp? Why do I need one of those? I do not need to attach gun to table to shoot straight!

>>28900307
>backwards handstop
triggered

>>28906070
That's a non-argument.

C-clamp is objectively the best way to shoot <100m standing with an autoloading rifle, defensively, in 99% of realistic situations. Whether or not someone learns trigger control first has no bearing on the effectiveness of c-clamp vs obsolete traditional rifle stances.

>>28906108
>the mag dump mindset

Well that just looks uncomfortable as fuck and something only an autist would insist on using.

>>28906137
>the "I will be able to incapacitate every target without follow up shots or having to move quickly between targets" mindset

All reputable defensive shooting instructors advocate c-clamp, thumb over bore, or thumb break.

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>>28906108
Mag grip is 10 time more practical
and more widely use by real operator

>>28906184
>more practical
Source: Your ass. Do you understand how physics works? The closer you can safely grip to the muzzle, the greater control you have over the rifle, both in recoil and in moving it between targets.

>>28906173
maybe take a break from youtube champ

>>28904640
Yeah it's pretty bad. He should be able to afford a tailor you would think. Probably should google "why I look like shit when I wear a sport watch with a suit" as well.

>>28906204
>Do you understand how physics works?
said the man who defend C clamp
the futher your hand to you body, the greater the gravity force on you arm

muzzle control can be over come with a good brake and pratice

>>28906357
>the greater the gravity force on your arm
Well, no, gravity on Earth is a constant. I'll assume you're talking about leverage. What situation would you be shooting standing for so long that your arm would get tired, in real life?

>muzzle control can be over come with a good brake and practice
Time and time again, ToB/c-clamp have been demonstrated to mitigate recoil better, but even if we assume that there is literally zero recoil, c-clamp still wins for moving between multiple targets.

>>28906428
>What situation would you be shooting standing for so long that your arm would get tired, in real life?
4-5 30 rounder mag, not dumping, burst fire, like every gun fire after Kalashnikov, like clearing house to house in Grozny
>c-clamp still wins for moving between multiple targets.
lol no
you can turn you body faster with you arm and leg close to your body, not extend them out, that is simple physic
but moving between target defend on your skill, situation awareness, not just swing your gun faster

>>28900493
I find that i don't shoot as accurate if I use that.

I prefer to hold at the end of the handguard with thumb over bore. Not the rediculous c clamp thing where your arm is shooting straight out to the side

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>>28900350
im guessing in a 3 gun situation it would work just fine. i also tried it (when the range was empty of course), and i felt like a humongous faggot meming IRL. like those faggots that pull the pistol up to their chest all goofy.

>>28906045

Know how I know you're full of shit?

Because we can't afford ammo.

>>28906108

>Obsolete

Let me see you C-Clamp for a couple hours straight. Most combat isn't high intensity room clearing or engaging multiple clear targets.

I went C clamp and now i love dick

>>28906516
Faster spinning, sure. But not faster stopping on target. You've really never watched a video on c-clamp? Like, literally?

>>28906767
>a couple hours straight
When would you ever hold your gun up on target for two hours, standing?

>>28906661
>chest pistol
>barely tangentially related to c-clamp
Pick both. A true HSLD faggot would insist on a kydex open-top holster because it's more efficient for everything but vehicle-mounted carry while wearing armor/etc.

It looks silly and I feel silly doing it but I swear it helps.

up next, we learn the tactical advantages of doing a barrel roll as we tap rack bang, don't forget to swivel those heads and assess the shooting range too kids

>>28906056
>multicam
>atacs
>bump helmet

slavs, wat are u doing?

slavs, stahp!

>>28907024
>I hate the idea that anyone wants to train instead of just plinking: the post

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ToB and Rolled Up Pants (RuP) for maximum preromance, reporting in

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>>28907096
Slav love Western gear

>>28900230
doesn't matter what kind of stupid grips he uses, he'll still always be a manlet

>>28907024
>swivel those heads and assess the shooting range
Jesus that fuckin annoys me. It's always super exaggerated too. If you're going to scan then scan. Don't make it look like you're having a damn seizure that is oddly only affecting your head and neck. Do it too fast and you'll miss things, do it fast enough and you might as well just be wasting energy.

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>>28906056

Looks like he's about to melt the fuck out of his hand

>>28906087
I read this as handwards backstop

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>>28900256

>>28907189

lmao

>>28907189
jesus christ

this is what you aspire to OP

Tob is most efficient way to shoot, and that's just physics. It's like boxing - how long has it been since someone figured out the best way to punch? When you hit the spot when limiting factors are human physiology and physics and not technique, your technique is going to stay the same as long as the former two stay constant.

That said, it's not the best tool for all jobs, it tires you faster than, say, magwell grip, so you don't use it if you have to hold a corner for 5 minutes.

>>28907601

This

It was meant, from its inception, as a way to rapidly transition between targets in CQB. That's it. Anyone thinking it has any more practical application beyond that has been drinking the ancient Magpul training DVD koolaid.

I'm lefty. So no I don't like brass hitting my forearm.

>>28907189
I still think the grip is the goofiest looking thing ever, but that man really does have grace to his steps and motion. If it works and sells, then more power to him.

>>28900324
>holding security on a door for hours
Maybe use some furniture as a support?

>>28907096
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEe-zAxd-LI

>>28906184
>Does not know anything about shooting a rifle
>Uses pictures of airsoft to proof a point
Only by lazy operators

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>>28900230
how about you just put your goddamn hand on the goddamn grip, it was made for a reason, fucking use it

>>28909041
Having your control around the mass is better than under it.

>>28909181
t. buck angel

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>>28908886
>pic of 5th Separate Guards Order of Kutuzov Order of Alexander Nevsky Special Purpose Regiment of Airborne troops
> pictures of airsoft to proof a point
OK

>>28909190
No, t. someone who didn't fail elementary physics.

>>28909242
>Slav
>Good at anything
>"Operator"
OK

>>28905971
>>28905957
>>28905937
Marine here passing through, C clamp isn't taught to us, it's fucking stupid.

>>28909358
>Marine here
My condolences.

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>>28905942
>that lean

How the fuck can't retards like you see the difference between a lean and the marksman stance? It's not that hard.

>>28909287
t. nutnfancy

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>>28905679
>assuming the most cuck pose with your wide boi-hips possible for firing a firearm in the most controlled of conditions
I never thought I'd see the day when guns could be uncool

>>28909896
No. Terveisin, someone who actually wants to shoot efficiently and not sperg about sheepdogs and ounces.