What makes this an AOW? Can you not have vfg's on a pistol or something?
>>28580326
wow that's pretty bad-ass
where can I get one made in china for $10 ?
>>28580354
No, you can't
>>28580326
looks cheap, chinese, and flimsy
it has hole in hand written all over it
like this ?
>>28580326
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=11fcg543Jow
No thanks op, I'm good.
>>28580326
BATF plz go
>>28580418
Yea but what about the foregrip?
>>28580398
Yes you can. Adding a foregrip does not constitute "manufacturing" or "remanufacturing" a firearm. This has been upheld in courts
>>28580436
"Did you get shot?"
"Yeah"
Yes please. This shit is sexy.
>>28580436
This needs to be a gif.
>>28580701
>1911 Tommy gun
>>28580721
Dillinger was famous for them...
>pic
Unless google lied to me this one was actually his.. Full auto conversion in .38 super.
>>28580526
But adding a shoulder stock does?
I don't understand American gun laws...
>>28580326
>glock with vfg but no fun switch
mall ninja/10
>>28580758
Don't bother trying.
There is zero logic involved.
Enjoy your felony dumbass
>>28580526
adding a vertical foregrip makes it an AOW, adding an angled foregrip or handstop does not make it an AOW.
>>28580789
this was direct at
>>28580526
>>28580758
It's just a matter of the legal definition of a pistol versus the legal definition of a rifle. Stocks are mentioned in the definition of a rifle, so adding a stock to a pistol makes it a rifle.
The "no foregrip" thing comes from the atf being gay about the definition of a pistol including "fired using one hand", which is patently untrue these days anyways. Charges for adding a foregrip to a pistol have been dropped before, though, because the atf doesnt actually get the real final say in what the laws mean.
>>28580526
Holy crap. CITATION NEEDED!!!
You're spreading absolute bullshit unless you're implying that an AOW stamp has been acquired. VFG on pistol = AOW
https://www.atf.gov/file/97256/download
>>28580746
Where's the sear?
Or did he just remove the disconnector?
Doesn't look like a select fire.
>>28580821
>don't be a fag, you don't need a stinkin' stamp
>they'll drop the charges, I promise
ATF, go!
>>28580824
Here's a list of cases where charges have been dismissed
http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/showthread.php?107235-Foregrip-On-Pistol-Legal-Cases-Involving-Firearm-Category-Classifications
The ATF can put out as many letters as they want saying, or example, that Skittles are regulated as pistol ammo.
Doesnt mean shit if the courts tell them to fuck off, though
>>28580436
keke
>>28580508
>>28580869
have fun having your shit confiscated, paying a lawyer, and fighting the battle to get everything back and charges dismissed
>>28580896
Have fun trusting ATF letters that have been declared by the atf to be "valid only to the person who received the letter and only for the instant the letter was issued", letters that have been shown to carry no legal weight and can change at any moment for literally no reason.
Faggot.
Didnt read the thread but you folks will appreciate this information.
Folks mount one if those picatinny rail to sling/bipod stud attachment then attach sling or small bipod and use it as vfg.
Theres even some online thats plain picatinny rail to looped sling just right size to have hand through it.
Get those if you want something like vfg on pistol but legal
>>28580834
Yeah most FA guns aren't made of Lexan you know. The selector is the safety as it's either on or off. Go watch some FA 1911s on YouTube.
>>28580508
>>28580917
>Have fun trusting ATF letters that have been declared by the atf to be "valid only to the person who received the letter and only for the instant the letter was issued"
So does that mean the retard that did the letter about shouldering the sig brace is the only one who legally can't do it?
kek
>>28580426
I know what I'm looking at, but my brain is 17 different ways of fucked right now
>>28580426
Pretty sure that's an SBR
>>28584142
it means if anyone else sends a letter asking the same thing, they'll probably get the same answer or worse.
and "enforcement" of an ATF letter at your local range depends on who wants to be a snitch.
>>28580702
...did he shoot himself?
>>28580758
Don't worry, neither do we.
note, the tripods aren't AOWs but I have them saved anyway because they look funny
>>28587215
>>28587234
>>28587282
Legal but weird.
>>28588563
>armslist
Jesus christ, every fuckin time.
>>28580436
>"Lol only 9mm"