Vortex Strikefire

just get an aimpoint you fucking poorfag

>>28478836
PSA Microdot.

>>28478843
>>28478844
Either one of these, no fucking point in getting the Vortex RDs anymore

>>28478836
>>28478844
Both chinese made, probably same factory just different box.

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>>28478836

I've had one for years.

Get the "red only" illumination model. It's Aimpoint bright.

The red/green is only daylight visible in green.

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>>28478843
I would rather not spend the money if these red dot sights are not bad

>>28478843
Huehue

But what you want OP, vortex sights aren't bad by any means

>>28478913
The Strikefire 1 and 2 are pretty bad actually.
>egg shaped fuzzy dot
>visible refraction from emitter
>emitter visible in scope tube
>Strikefire 1 didn't go daylight bright even on highest settings with brand new batteries

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>>28478968
What about the Sparc

>>28478859
Yeah yeah, your iPhone, Android, TV set and computer components are all made in China too. Get over it. Doesn't mean anything.

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>>28478968

>Strikefire 1 didn't go daylight bright even on highest settings with brand new batteries

Only in red, and only on the Red/Green model. And the green dot was most certainly daylight visible in the South Texas afternoon.

The "red only" Strikefire is labeled for extra brightness, and a daylight visible red dot.

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>>28478991

If you want a mini-dot, just get the Primary Arms Advanced Micro.

>>28479004

Wrong rifle in that WebM, lol

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>>28479016

>>28479004
I sell them for a living.

The Strikefire 1, on both the red/green and red superbright, were so dim you could not see the dot in a store lit with fluorescent lights that had dark carpeting. I've looked through probably 500 of them, swapped to brand new batteries on several, same result.

The Strikefire 2 was a significant upgrade on brightness, and the battery lasts about twice as long as well. Too bad the "4" MOA dot, due to being fuzzy as shit and egg-shaped, is about 9 MOA in practicality.

>>28478836
I've got the sparc 2.

What sold me on it were several videos on youtube of it surviving some serious abuse tests.

Other than that just your typical cco.

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>>28479046

Eh, not my experience with it. Maybe I have one that wasn't assembled on a Monday/Friday, or an older model.

Last time I zero'd it was on a VERY bright spring day, on a white target with no issues.

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>>28479069

>>28479069
Well, gratz then.

I wish I could say that's the norm, but my experience says otherwise.

>>28478836
Make sure you dont have an astigmatism first. All dots are blurry for me. Also go look at a few first in person. PA has great quality for the price and vortex is decent. I had a strikefire 1 and was impressed although my vision is shit. I gave it to my friend who put it on an AUG and loves it. Also I know that somewhere on the internet is a batch of aimpoints that was a agency sell off so you can probably get one cheap if you look hard enough.

>>28478836
I have a Strikefire 2 and it's pretty deluxe. Kinda tall, and it's relatively basic, but for the money it's cash.

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I just want something that works. I saw good reviews on both sights from both sootch00 and mac

I would suggest the Spitfire instead

I've had one on my AR for a long time.
0 issues, and really good quality.

>>28478836
Strikefire has a 4MOA dot in red and green
Sparc 2 has a 2MOA dot
isn't power by unobtainium like an Aimpoint, but you sacrifice battery life for convenience.

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>>28478836
I have the sparc 2 and I can't find anything to complain about. 200 bucks with a lifetime warranty is hard to beat

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Get the PA MD-ADS.

I think primary arms offers just as good if not better products for less
and aimpoint offers far superior products for not much more.

the aco goes on sale for like $300. the pro for $360. if you can wait for a deal like that, you're set.

>>28478836
Garbage!

My utg underwent hamma test and have clear and crisp like fuck dot meanehile vortex out if box have dot that look like its floating red leaking egg yolk!

PA or better or BUST

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>>28482030
*garbage for buck

Pic related!

>>28480024
I just returned mine, It shut off when I shot it. I have it mounted on a M92 PAP in 7.62. Going to buy another one and give it another chance. I really want to love it.

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>>28478836
You can't go wrong with a vortex sparc or primary arms md ads.

They're the only optics you should ever put on a rifle that isn't a .22 save for the more expensive things like trijicons or aimpoints.

While they're very durable for what they are, they're not as durable as the latter two expensive choices but you should be fine with either vortex or primary. They both have incredibly good customer service.

If you want to save up a bit for something a step above but not $600, wait for a sale on aimpoint pros.

>>28482039
> PAP causing PA REDDOT to shut off
> zastava PAP

Its probably PA fault contact their CS they will replace your no problem. THEY HAVE GOOD CS VERY GOOD CS.

Zastava is known to ship out countless ak with weak recoil spring and cause carrier peening issue.

Replace your recoil spring asap.

>>28482049
>Zastava is known to ship out countless ak with weak recoil spring and cause carrier peening issue.
My carrier hasn't been peening, I have heard about this problem.

I bought the optic from Amazon and already got my refund so I'm going to try again. It stayed zeroed though.

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Zero was held the both zero adjustment turret still work perfectly. Dot color and brightness adjustment knob still work perfectly.

Before hamma test was performed it was mounted on L1A1 for 500 rounds and worked flawless then on overgassed 16" ar15 for 600rds and few bolt off handheld chink crossbow then basically retired until i performed torture test on it.

>>28482060
Replace your recoil spring regardless.

Whats round count?

>>28482073
I have only put about 600 rounds through it so far. I have an OPAP and it didn't have this issue either. I shoot the PAP more so I should probably just switch springs out until I can be bothered to buy a new one.

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>>28482081

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I've got the StrikeFire II, it works fantastically even while hog hunting here in Texas. My only complaint is the goofy cantilever mount, but whatever, I'm getting a new ring anyhow.

>>28482073
I thought that any rifle scope or rds put on a bow fired weapon or air rifle would ruin it for some reason. I can't recall the specifics but I remember someone on here mentioning it

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Utg have been constantly improving ever since they started.

Especially their later gen chink optics and mount plus American pro stuff.

Although this utg reddot and scope mount for my dad's retired Bushnell ar223 scope is only utg product in my household.

I have kept eye on utg, im impressed with them.

>>28482098
That's exactly why i did it. Although that does nothing to particular one i had. granted handcrossbow i had wasnt powerful or anything . recoil was equivalent to one 380acp one 25acp recoil one forward one rearward. Jesus i fucking hate bow of any kind despite being natural bowman.

But some old man on internet mounted it on magnum revolver and it held up fine slightly different and superior model tho.

>>28482096
why did you swap the sights out on your USP? Tactical adjustable sights looks goofy as hell on the compact.

Literally six months ago if you asked about red dots here people would have recommeded it.

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>>28483001
Well I think I might go with the sparc 2

how do you tell the gen 1 from the gen 2 strikefire ?

What's the consensus on Holosun red dots? I understand that they are new to the scene but from what I can tell the
>popular gun instagrams
are jocking them pretty hard

I use a SPARC II. Works just fine as a mid-budget optic until I feel unlazy enough to go full gucci.

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>>28483552
Don't bother. Only budget optics you should get is primary arms and vortex.
>m-m-m-muh holosun and primary arms same OEM!!!1

>>28484280
This. PA is garbage. Vortex if you are going to be cheap.

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>>28478836
Just fucking spend 3/4 your rifle's price on an optic already, poorfag! Then you can be super cool on 4chan like>>28478843

A Sparc II is a good budget optic when they're on sale (~$170). Entry level gucci is an Aimpoint Pro, which you can get for $370 on sale. Just save your sheckles and get an Aimpoint

>>28484307
>Vortexfags confirmed for no reading ability

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>>28484569
Why do you hate on Vortex so much?

>>28484889
so close jim...so close

>>28482883

I like them, plus they're nights and they were cheaper than just the regular nights.

>>28483179
One is named Strikefire. The other is named Strikefire II.

Both have it written on both the outside of the box and on the optic itself.

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The Sparc 2 is working good on my ar

>>28478836
While we're at it, anyone gotten a Sparc AR yet?

Looks to be a T1/PA MD-ADS/Holosun clone.

Hopefully it will be breddy gud, my only complaint with the Sparc II is it's still pretty large for being a "micro"dot.

>>28485194
>utg rail covers
Dude WTF why
It would've been better if you wrapped your handguard in duct tape

>>28478836
are these a good buy? I am building a beater ar pistol. Im just gona run steel case 7.62x39 through it. I dont care if the optic can be submerged or is super impact resistant.
Will I put decent groups in paper at 25yards with a Vortex?

>>28485194
What rail handguard do you got there fampai?

>>28485439
They're pretty good.

I still believe that for almost every application one of the MRDS's from Primary Arms (which are about $40 cheaper) are better though.

Especially for a pistol build.

>>28482030

Are you deaf?

>>28478836
That bracket is so fucking ugly.

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>>28485367
>>28485455
>Quad rail
The 90's called

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No lucid red dot?
Just ordered the lucid magnifier too.

>>28486730
The adjustable one?

Please post on /arg/ how it goes.

>>28485439
>Will I put decent groups in paper at 25yards with a Vortex?
>25yards

You should really put that money into buying 1,000 rounds and learning to not suck fat dick at shooting honestly.

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>>28484280
>Budget RD
>Anything other than PA's Advanced MD.

>>28485439
No. Buy PA advanced.

Also

>25yds
>rifle caliber
>7.62x39
>out of a pistol

Firstly, you wont see decent group MOA wise due to rifle caliber not going to sleep yet.

Secondary, majority of steel case 7.62x39 ammo are garbage due to them lacking powder charge consistency.

Thirdly, 7.62x39 drop like rock especially worse out of shorter barrel and likely cause alot shooter's error when holding over or under especially with reddot and plain crosshair reticle of scopes.

Vortex is good brand for their scopes not reddot.

Their reddot is dogshit for money due to dogshit battery life their excellent warranty wont do anything because dogshit battery isnt result of manufacturing error but poor design and warranty aint going to fix that. They will send it back and say it work like it should.

Its better to go with PA and sacrifice excellent warranty due to more gained battery life wise and quality of the dot. Pa CS is already very good even if your warranty expired they will take care of you.

Go google PA customer service and click on link to various forum and listen to all those good experiences.


>>28486257
Are you mentally retarded?

>>28488391
false

7.62x39 retains its velocity quite well out of shorter barrels, it is why the Yugoslavian 7.62x39 M92 (10 inch barrel at 675 m/s versus 710 m/s out of an akm) and amd65 were successful designs.

>>28488070
Yes that one.... Is there something I should know about it? Or has no one in the /arg/ ever had one?

>>28488480
You missed my point.

I know 7.62x39 are better out of shorter barrel than another intermediate caliber but that doesnt make my statement about dropping worse due to loss of velocity atop 7.62x39 already bad trajectory a FALSE statement.

10/10 shouldn't even post.

>>28488963
....what?

7.62x39 is great for short barreled applications and red dot ranges.

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How is the Primary Arms Advanced Micro Red Dot?

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>>28490235
It's 50,000 hour battery life and plenty rugged.

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>>28478843
Cousin got a job with an aimpoint rep. Now I can get 250 aimpoint pros. Feels fucking good.

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>>28490335

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>>28490261
Better than the Vortex? I think I am going to get one of these now. Also what is a decently priced mount for absolute co-witness?

>>28490368
your point being?

>>28490392
Has better battery life and is smaller, so I'd say so.

American Defense Manufacturing makes great QD mounts at affordable prices.

>>28490403
I think he's just making a point that I have a wang...

>>28490433
> thumb in pic
you sure about that?

>>28489551
Being "great" in short barrel doesn't stop it from dropping like rock compared to average rifle caliber. Due to excessive drop holding over and under will be required and if he doesnt have hashed reticle he will make errors which preventing him being getting "decent" grouping atop shitty majority of 7.62x39 ammo.

Also he will enjoy multiple jamming problems from shitty 7.62x39 ar15 magazines and bolt lug shearing unless he gotten ahold of lmt bolt that they do few run a year.

7.62x39 IS INDEED A GREAT OUT OF SHOTER BARREL compared TO ANOTHER INTERMEDIATE CALIBER BUT IT JUST STILL DROP TOO GODDAMN MUCH WORSE NOW BECAUSE LESS INITIAL MUZZLE VELOCITY.

this is last attempt to explin to you stuipd akfag.

My point was never that 7.62x39 suck out of shorter barrel just that due to it dropping like rock more hold over or under is required at various range and with reddot thats called for shitty group.

>>28490335
nice

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>>28478836
I have a Strikefire II. I got it for a good price and it is decidedly ok. Aimpoints have a more defined dot, and I expect that they would be more durable.

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>>28478836

Sparc II is a good optic , sadly it looks like a comet so I looked into the prism one and I love it. I suggest if you can to physically look through the optic to see how it is to your eyes and see if it is the right one for you because you never know.