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Are SKS-Ds available in Canada, or is the detachable mag too scary?

>>28454152
Yup they go for around $500 when you can find them.

Drones are a hot topic this holiday. I have a computer whiz friend who knows a lot about automation. I am an engineering student and we had a funny conversation about attaching a 10/22 to a drone and go do some plinking with it. All jokes aside, what is stopping others from doing this now? I only ask this because I watched a news report about the rise in drone sales and the alphabet soup buearu of canada for transportation has said they generalized the rules surrounding drones and they are now thinking of asking people to register their drones

>>28454233
>REGISTER YOUR DRONES
>overwhelming noncompliance
>guis plz... its for your own good ;_;

>>28454233
PART 4PROHIBITED DEVICES
Former Prohibited Weapons Order, No. 9
1. Any electrical or mechanical device that is designed or adapted to operate the trigger mechanism of a semi-automatic firearm for the purpose of causing the firearm to discharge cartridges in rapid succession.

>A remote trigger would be a prohibited device.

Fly a drone with a gun on it surprisingly legal AFAIK
http://www.tc.gc.ca/media/documents/ca-standards/Info_graphic_-_Flying_an_umanned_aircraft_-_Find_out_if_you_need_permission_from_TC.pdf

>>28454272
What if we followed the whole, "3 sec between shot" rule some places have? It only says its prohibited if you use it for rapid fire.

>>28454313
"rapid succession" is not defined in the firearms act or criminal code as a kind of catch all clause on trigger devices.

>>28454267
That is the law in the states. Commercial or recreational drones need to be registered. At least thats whatthey said comparing Canada drone laws to the US

>>28454337
So basically;
>Flying a drone with a gun on it surprisingly legal
AFAIK

>>28454385
Yeah its just the firing of the firearm by use of a remote trigger that is the problem

>>28454349
Thank goodness

Think of how many crimes have been solved and lives saved thanks to the drone registry

I have a 12 hour shift to spend with you fucks.

Inforce APL and zevtech fulcrum trigger kit came in today, range Friday to try it all out on the g17. Time to layer up

Daily reminder that the government literally kicked the doors of innocent Canadians and forcibly stole their firearms and ammo with zero intention of ever giving any of it back, and many of those people still have no gotten their firearms back.

>>28454430
Or will or will even get reimbursed for their doors.

>>28454434
I was told that the people were instructed to leave their doors unlocked when they were evacuated, and if they didn't, their door got bashed and it's on them to fix it.

>>28454408
How about this- get an old Remington 700 trigger pack- get a faulty one that can fire when the trigger is pulled and then it is taken off safe. Pull the trigger on the ground with the safety enabled.

In the air, when you press a button, the safety is disengaged and the gun fires once. Return to base to fire again.

>>28454418
I hope you enjoy the five posts an hour we usually do. All ten of us.

>>28454430
High River?

>>28454452
As far as I can tell remote triggers only apply to semi auto actions.

>>28454454
>All ten of us.
Dude we're already at 8 theres only so much shenanigans we can have.

>>28454454
yeah, High River

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>>28454501
I had a buddy who was doing disaster relief with the army over in high river, said they came a cunt hair away from forcibly detaining/lighting up these cops that were going door to door and stealing guns

Anybody know the parts compatibility between the classic green and FAMAE rifles?

>>28454593
Probably very good considering they are made under swiss licence with swiss tooling.

The RCMP did nothing wrong at High River. It's better that the police take possession of those dangerous weapons rather than leaving them for criminals to loot from the deserted homes.

Gun nuts completely miss the bigger picture as usual. I like guns, but I also have some common sense about them.

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>>28454635

>>28454635
>lol RCMP PLS GO

>>28454644
>le i have no counter argument fish

>>28454729
Fine, I'll take the bait, the RCMP brought in lock smiths to break into hidden safes and steal the contents so that they could be melted down into Trudeau's metal buttplug

>>28454846
Trudeau doesn't have a metal butt plug. Justin is a solid citizen.

How expensive are M1 Garands in Canada? Are they a meme gun for newly licenced shooters?

>>28454979
$1500-2100 its an american thing where you can get them for $600
kinda like our SVT-40's being cheap.

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>Looking around at HD guns
>Spot a Vz.61 Skorpion instead
>Probably gonna go for it
Also, a total /pol/fag in the LGS.
>Shows off his Hitler/Pilsbury Dough Boy tattoo
>Tries to call troops stupid, spaghettis when we give him the stink eye and he realizes we're all ex-milfags
>As he and his friend walk out with some tannerite, loudly exclaims "TIME TO GO BLOW UP SOME NIGGERS, HAHA"
>Everyone's face when

>>28455026
Hey you're the guy that dropped his concealed baby killing howitzer in Timmy's

>>28454979
I've heard they are unobtanium because you can shoot 8 rounds

>>28455119
Nope one of a few special exceptions. It gets to use 8 round enblocs.

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>>28455092
Guilty.

What's a good first Non-Restricted for the first time shooter?

>>28455298
SKS or 10/22

>>28455026
This is 100% accurate, you left before I shouted allahu ackbar. We're you with your wife? Or were you the office space background character looking guy

>>28455135
fuck I hate ice jackets.

>>28455360
I was the guy talking to beardy about the Skorpion standing closest to the door. Tall, green Arcteryx jacket.

>>28455298

For a first time shooter I'd honestly recommend a good .22 bolt action or something simple. Learn the basic principles, then move up to semi-auto centerfires etc after you've had some practice.

>>28455414
Hahaha

>>28455405
It was a prototype the RHQ guys gave me last time I stopped in to needle them.
Makes for a cool background, and it's got a nice Gortex layer. I just refuse to wear it in public to avoid looking like an autist.

>>28455417

Well I've shot 223 before so I know the basics of shooting so 22 doesn't really interest me that much.

Any new news on Tavors, SKS, and other scary baby killers in the works to be prohibited?

How about Beowulf mags being prohibited if they have a 5.56 follower?

>>28455547
Nothing from RCMP recently

>>28455443
.223 bolt action. Ammo is reasonable, and it'll be good if you want to introduce other people to shooting.

>>28454430
Did anyone ever get hung out to try for that stupidity?

>>28455726
nope.jpg

police > the law

>>28455438
Should have asked to hold my valmet I would have let rack the slide a bunch of times. Most satisfying sound ever.

>>28455791
I've shot AKs a few times. I'd like a Valmet, but I'm not able to afford one just yet.

>>28455996
Ah, come shooting sometime, me an my buddy will teach you some startling shit.

>>28456035
Bring it next time I set up a Wildwood meet. I wanna finish my Mohawk restoration to show that sexy bitch off.

MVRRC anyone?

>>28455547
Nothing recent. I sure as hell hope everything stays status quo despite gun laws being fucked as they are. My biggest fear is that politicians declare the current firearms act/criminal code needs to be completely redone and they replace it with something even more retarded,

>>28456054
Can't do what we do at range.

>>28456114

I've been reading and maybe someone here can clarify.

The liberal campaign specifically mentions returning the classification power to the RCMP. Does that mean they currently don't hold that power or just that they can currently be overruled?

While I don't think they would jump right back to reclassifying those same rifles I worry they'll start with pistol/rifle magazines.

>>28456192
They currently cannot reclassify anything that has held a classification for the period of one year. (Bill C-42)

>>28456192
The vast majority of all classifications are currently, and have been since the 90's era gun control laws were passed, in the control of the RCMP. Prior to C-42, the government could reclassify (or preclassify as the case may be) any gun to restricted or prohibited. After C-42, this power extended to allow classifications to non restricted, and prevented reclassifications from the RCMP after a period of 1 year from the initial classification.

>>28456281
>>28456248

Consider me scared

>>28456387
Have a couple timbits, you'll be OK.

Anyone want to buy an SVT in nova scotia? (No not you, American silver bar guy)

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>>28454635
>nothing wrong

Hey, I'm not much into guns but I want one as a display piece. I may go with a replica but a real one would be nice. What is the process I need to go through to get a firearms license and what are the laws regarding mounting my firearm on the wall for decoration?

>>28456657
they butchered the firearm mounting law

prepared to be disappointed

>>28456676
How So?

>>28456657
http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-98-209/page-2.html#h-6

Non firing replicas are prohibited btw. If you want a non gun hanging on your wall it has to be airsoft or dewat(deactivated firearm)

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>>28456657
just buy a dewat ak74

>>28456657

There are plenty of resources on google on getting your PAL.

If it's unloaded and has a cable or trigger lock on it you can essentially do whatever the fuck you want with it as long as you don't store it with ammo.

>>28456146
I don't go to ranges. I shoot innawoods, Restricted or no.
Believe me, with all the shit I've done, you will not impress me. We may have fun, but it won't be like "oh, wow, I can't believe someone would do that!"

>>28456851
Not trying to impress, just train

>>28456080
Yes. 30-30.

>>28456931
Hah, well, I'm already pretty well trained. Ex-Pats and all that jazz. But by all means, do as you like.

>>28457451
Maybe you can teach us some shit then, I just know explosives really well.

>>28457451
>>28457789
Although if you're ccw'ing and you dropped it in public then I have my doubts you are ex pats

Honestly I'm still not done laughing at all the stupid stoners who got BTFO by DUDEWEED

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>>28456054
I'll invite myself along too. Will have to bring my SVT40 so we can shoot one then the other. You know who I am.

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>>28457865
just how does this man child get in office?

>>28457850
EX-Pats. I follow the link to the previous thread, I explained why I CC and what happened. You're free to come, but you'll need to keep the /pol/ crap to a minimum.
>>28457919
I'll have a pair of new toys by then, too that you'll love.

>>28457865
What happened?

>>28458095
He came out yesterday saying
>Oh guys so it turns out legalizing weed will fuck with treaties we signed and piss off other countries, I don't know...

>>28455360
You're talking about Milton, buddy.

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>>28458113
Oh my god yes. You know these next four years are gonna suck, but at least I can sit on the sidelines and laugh at the retards who actually bought into it

>>28458150
The real joke is that all of these fucking stoners smoke weed 24/7 and are never arrested
Yet they want it "legalized" ???
What do they think will change?
fucking stoners

>>28458224
Hey man, don't down talk the mentally retarded, they can't help it

>>28458224
I know, I never got it
>Guys weed has to be legalized, this is a serious issue!
>From a guy who spends hours smoking dope in his basement every fucking day

>>28458224
They should just decriminalize it and be done with the issues. Those stoners don't know the difference. Talked to one tonight about this.

Is there a video of him saying this?

>>28458281
"But what about the economy, terrorism, and our foreign relations?"
"Dude I don't give a shit about any of that, I just want legal weed"

Sometimes I hate the people I grew up with

>>28458303
Likewise
>Mfw seeing posts from friends on Facebook like 2 hours after the election going "Hey guys Trudeau got elected does that mean weed is legal now?"

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Any thoughts on Marstar? they seem to push a lot of Chinese shit but are they legit or just likely to rip off your credit card number?

>>28458342
Legit but have been know for the worst ever customer service. That being said they've yet to fuckup any of my orders.

>>28458353
Also I'll add to that the shittiest, 90's website that lists seemingly every item that they've ever sold, even if they haven't had it for 5 years

>>28458342
From what I've heard they're reliable, but a little slow. Their warehouse is near where I live so I'm wondering if I could pick up my order instead of having it shipped

>>28458375
Not really, you can arrange a pickup but I think that is mainly for large orders as it is a secured area due to their dealings with large amounts of prohibited firearms.

>>28458342
Legit but slow. Occasionally excellent deals or rare stuff. Which you'll get...eventually

>>28458085
When's the next meet up? I'd try to make it. I'm the other /k/unt that has a Valmet Hunter.

>>28458342
They charged me $15 shipping for a SKS sling. Probably not going to buy from them again.

>>28458085
I'm not pol at all despite my edgy millenial look. I'm actually know more shit about guns and our gun laws than most people do.

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So I just came to the realization that I only have two gun bags for four guns. Can I legally transport my rifles (in my trunk) in a garbage bag without getting into trouble? maybe a dufflebag or something.

>>28459322
Thats only for restricted
or non restricted when you leave them unattended.

Non restricted you can have unloaded in the back seat if you are in the vehicle.

Weed shouldn't be criminal, just saying. Alot of you guys dont even realize your attitude is the same that many people take towards those of us with guns.

>wowww those stupid rednecks go shooting all the time and then pretend that gun laws are a big issue? I mean come on it's 2016

If you're smoking weed or carrying a handgun I don't see the problem as long as you're not harming people.

Thoughts on a norinco 1911 as a base gun for a build? My friend made it seem like im trying to make a civic fast, when I could just get something nicer.

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>>28459354
>>28459322
indeed

technically you can leave your non restricteds in your trunk indefinitely

>2016
>not having an sks trunk gun
>mfw

>>28459625
get a colt 1991 series if you can't afford a fancy one

its the best budget 1911 before you go down to rock island etc

>>28459625
I have a STI GI. Got it for like 600 on sale. Very happy with it. Id say get a better base and upgrade from there if you care about quality. If you just want a civic then the norcs fine. Their QC is hit or miss.

>>28459635
>colt 1991
It's like 200 away from a thousand
>>28459652
>Their QC is hit or miss.
The thing is that, mine seems to be alright, the bluing is starting to wear, but other than that its alright. That's why im not sure what to do.

>>28459682
Oh well if you already have it then yea go ahead and throw some parts in it. If you start having problems either get the smith to take a look at it or just put the original parts back in and get a better base gun. I think you can make it work with the norc just fine.

I heard that SVT40's are now becoming hard to find new out of the crate and are fetching close to $500 when found. Is this true?

>>28459807
No. A few places still have lots

>>28458892
Probably in the spring, since nobody wants to trudge up that road this time of year.

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Ayy buds, what is better a Tavor or a famae.

>>28459268
Oh, sorry. You just had me confused, what with the autistic muttering, Nazi-themed tattoo on your gut you showed to everyone, and the yelling about niggers.
I'm sure you can understand how my initial internal reaction was "fucking /pol/fags".

>>28461049
I'm fairly biased against the Tavor, so I'd say the Famae. Sure it was built by Chileans but the design is Swiss and I haven't heard anything really bad about them ever, while Tavors are Israeli and bullpup. Of course this is mostly just personal preference.

>>28461049
Famae is better. Tavor failed a simple drop test, making it unusable rather easily.

Go with the full sized rifle that isn't made from plastic.

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>>28456657
If you just want a decorative piece, get an antique (pre 1898, with certain rules). Deactivated/Dewat firearrms are a bit ugly with all the welds and whatnot.

Here's an example of an antique- a nice Martini-Henry. In many cases, they are cheaper than a deactivated firearm.

>>28461188
I can't see this being a common problem being that they're so popular and are currently in service with the IDF.

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>>28458342
Pretty good, no problems here. Haters hate them cuz dey got dem FA guns.

Don't you 404 on me. I need my syrup-scented hugbox.

>>28463882
Did you ever get a better holster or are you still just saving up for a better gun? I'm the guy that asked in that confessions thread a while back.

>>28461692
Slow to ship, tacks on shipping charges after you thought you already paid for everything, can often be dicks.

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>>28463935
Waiting on the holster. But got pic related today.
>Aaaaah, hurry up with the transfer!

>>28464051

Nice rifle, friend. :^)

>>28464051
Very nice. You'll love the way you can 'slap' the stock into position.

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>>28463882
Antique gun- a 10 gauge Newfoundland birding shotgun. 46 inch barrel. 5 1/2 feet overall length.

>>28464068
>>28464074
Holy shit, that was fast.
>Call CFO
>"Blah blah, I wanna take my new toy home"
>Guy puts me on hold for a few minutes
>All my info is good, transfer is immediately approved, just gotta wait for the card in the mail
Well fuck me, the system works on occasion.

>>28464280
I've hardly ever had it take more than a day when doing transfers in Alberta. Feels good. Also having a direct line to those who actually approve the shit helps. Are you shooting it today as well? If you are let us know how you like it. I think I still have the original box that my buddys came in years ago.

From the Vancouver Sun, some stats on murder in Canada:
>Canada's homicide rate remains at lowest levels in almost five decades

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/canadas+homicide+rate+remains+lowest+levels+almost+five/11543434/story.html

>Overall, police services across the country reported 516 killings in 2014

> Guns were more frequently used — 156 times — but the overall rate of gun killings was at its second-lowest level in 40 years.

>Overall, when the crimes were solved, most victims — 83 per cent — knew their killers, data show — a situation that has long been the case.

>Acquaintances posed the biggest threat, followed by relatives. Current or ex-spouses were blamed in 83 cases or 16 per cent of all homicides, with women four times more likely than men to die at the hands of partners.

The only bits that we're missing is how many of the murders committed with firearms were done with legally held NR/R/Prohib versus stolen or smuggled guns, and how many were done by people legally allowed to own a gun.

>>28454635
do they pay you overtime to shill on the internet, constable?

>>28454233
its illegal to hunt with drones, i was going to buy one for that exact purpose.

even scouting animals with drones is illegal, let alone hunting them with one.

who the fuck would know way up north in many of those hunting areas though. ive met traffic cops who didnt know a few traffic laws, im sure most conservation officers dont even know drone laws.

Not sure if anyone here would have any insight but should I look more into the EPS or the Alberta Sheriffs if I'm looking for an easier job with more manageable hours (standard 9-5 or something like that, if that even exists in law enforcement)?

Is there anything worse than being a Canuck who likes battle rifles?
All I want is a ptr clone that doesn't have 150 dollar mags ;_;

>>28464280
You're a fucking moron for using a trip and admitting that you CC , then posting info that would easily identify you. How many skorpions do you think went through the Alberta cfo today?

Drop the trip retard

>>28465097
hes just posting fictional works for our entertainment,

>>28465097
>The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
:^)

>>28464051
Why is .32 acp so expensive? Shit's puny, you'd think it'd be cheap as fuck.

>>28465925
Hardly any legal guns shoot it so it's uncommon as fuck. I have the same problem with factory ammo for my Makarov.

>>28458303
>>28458321

>tfw there are people who would rather smoke that skunk smelling shit grass instead of shooting funs at the range.

It hurts bros

>>28466070
I do both. People don't say anything cause they're never entirely sure if I'm rcmp or not, that and I never miss the plates when I'm baked. Once I start missing I pack up and leave cause i dont want to have an accident. Then I get home, get hammered and clean my guns

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>>28466070
>you must exclusively like one over the other

>>28465925
S&B surplus, 32c/round http://marstar.ca/dynamic/product.jsp?productid=86954

Modern production S&B is $23/box and many places sell it.

>>28465925
At least the store where I bought the gun have it for $22 a box instead of $34 like the other guys.
>The manual is on an interactive CD-ROM
It's like 1998 all over again. Pretty nice case, though.

>>28458303
>not calling them out and telling them to educate themselves

dont be a fucking pussy

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is there anything worse than canada post?

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>>28466229
Absolutely not.

>>28466229
CanPar lel.

>>28466229
No. They left my left my last package in the snow beside the house when nobody was home. I only found it when I went to put the garbage out.

>>28466362
lol wut. What the fuck were they thinking?

I got a package to pick up tomorrow that they claim "attempted delivery" on except nobody ever came, I know, because I'm obsessive and I watch the door almost every day I'm not out working.

>There will never be a Canadian GI Bill
>There will never be postings to places like Hawaii or Korea
Hurts a little bit

>>28466362
Marstar shipped my buddies svt in a 3.5ft long box and a garbage bag.

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>>28466433
>a garbage bag

God damn Marstar be ghetto. Gonna turn on CBC one day and watch the RCMP raiding their meth lab or something.

>>28466455
There hit or miss, but I cam recommend 40 other business before them. Fuck marstar, haven't had fucking russian ammo in 6 years but still has 2 listings for it. Havent had CZ858s in years but has a page just to show they're all out of stock.
>1200 dewat ak.
Fuck them

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>>28466229
Canada post is literally the best courier service you cuck.

At least canada post attempts deliveries everytime i get something from UPS they never buzz me when im home and they just leave a notice in the front of the building only for me to have to drive 45 min to their warehouse and then wait there another hour before they get to me. and fuck their broker fees. I once didn't have 2 dollars to give them which they said i owe for brokers fees and it didn't say on the notice slip . I had to drive home then come another day.

Also stop being a fucking retard .if you don't want them to safe drop a parcel at your house get a fucking no safe drop notification on the parcel you retard or a signature required.

>>28466506
my post was directed towards this guy

>>28466362

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>>28466506
Between all the obscenities this Anon is actually correct.

does anybody know how similar in dimension AK mags are to VZ58 mags? I want some mag pouches for a vest but everything is either AR pouches or AK pouches. Thought maybe I could get away with using AK pouches, assuming they're not too big.

>>28466229
As someone who actually works as a warehouse receiver, I've had the fewest problems with Canada Post.

TransForce (Loomis, CanPar, and T-Force) is the worst.

>>28466506
>>28466571
Purolator's pretty good too, but then again they're 91% owned by Canada Post.

Sometimes they're a little too good.

>track a package
>oh, it'll take a week or two
>okay, that is fair enough I guess
>NOPE, it arrives two days tops, and they're always at the door when I'm in the bathroom showering
>so two days then becomes three days, because I have to pick it up the day after the attempt

>>28466253
>>28467301
Every package I've gotten from canpar has been covered in black soot (well, not totally covered, just enough to rub off on the carpet and my hands). Do they haul coal on their days off?

>>28466455
Marstar was raided in the past. RCMP was hoping they would fight back and Wako them, didn't happen.

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>>28467434
lol, on what grounds? Obviously they had no cause if they're still in business.
>RCMPs face when

>>28467453
http://www.brucemontague.ca/html/0428.html

bs smuggling charges hard to get good info as this was a long time ago,

>>28467383
I get packages like that too, though it's happened with various different couriers, not just Canpar.

Couriers have many different customers. Most of them are industrial. Factories and warehouses are notorious for their dust and soot, so it's no surprise that some packages are covered in it.

Even if the debris isn't from your vendor, there's always a chance another customer's package rubbed off on yours. Also, many couriers, not just Canpar, make terrible hiring decisions when choosing their drivers, so who knows how badly these packages have been abused during loading, mid-transit, and unloading. Ample opportunity for dust to kick up in the back of the truck, even from rough, reckless driving.

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>>28467485
>When the police saw the St. Amours' two dogs, they were told,
"Control them or they're gone," he says.

ATF/10

>At gunpoint, St. Amour was ordered to take the police to the
office upstairs, where his wife was surrounded by four officers
armed with machine guns. "My two employees were lined up against
a wall and held at gunpoint.

>While the search warrant bore the name of a Customs Canada
official, most of the officers bore no pieces of identification.
Some were dressed in plain clothes. "They refused to identify
themselves. They threatened to arrest me for asking questions.
"We're the RCMP, we don't have to explain anything. We don't need
a warrant."

this is scary shit, and to think they're still in business. I mean, they have every right to be, being that they were doing nothing wrong, but you'd think something like that would probably make most just say fuck this I'm done.

>>28467573
Shit, now I hate Marstar slightly less now.

Their service is utter shite, but I admire them for enduring this ordeal and continuing to do what they do.

>>28467601
Is their service really that bad? I ordered some AR parts from them and it was pretty straightforward.

>>28467563
Fair enough, I was just surprised because I've never had that happen with any other courier- UPS, FedEx, DHL, Loomis, Canada Post. But with Canpar it's every single time.

>>28467573
I hope that the inquiry on missing or murdered aboriginal women will unearth so much shit about the RCMP that it will go the way of the Airborne Regiment.

>>28461079
Famae is infinitely more reliable and Chile as a country is bro as fuck. Tavor just will not work under adverse conditions despite looking cool.

>>28461533
The Tavor has failed every single drop/dirt/dust/mud/water/whatever test that has been filmed and put on youtube for whatever that's worth.

>>28464087
Very nice.

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>>28467656
Oh reeheeheally?

>>28465303
>>28465874
Except I thought a bunch of /k/ommandos met him recently at a meet?

>>28467700
Do you think someone would do that?

Just go to a meetup and tell lies?

>>28467682
...y.yes

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>>28467771
I can appreciate that people may dislike IWI for political reasons but flat out making shit up is silly

>>28467705
I do exist, I met some Anons. I never lied during the meet, though. Not that I can remember. Nothing sensitive was brought up anyway.

>>28467622
Yes, their service is rather bad compared to other Canadian firearms retailers.

It took them two weeks to initiate my order. Other places would have already charged my credit card and shipped my goods within days, but Marstar took two weeks to just get started on it.

Their website is also poorly maintained. This is highly concerning because Marstar claims to be one of Canada's most influential firearms retailers. They have various industrial and military connections, and yet their online storefront is dogshit. A lot of shit is out of stock, but they'll take their sweet fucking time to manually update their pages.

I've seen a better maintained website from a much smaller business that I'm convinced is run by two or three slavs with very poor English skills huddled in a warehouse. Their stock updated real-time (so if you bought a nugget from them, and it said "3 in stock" on the item page, it will go down to "2 in stock" after you've clicked "Submit").

I also don't think they know how to ship. They charged me shipping separately for the same order. They sent my rifle via Canada Post ($40), and my ammo via UPS ($60). I paid one hundred dollars in shipping alone.

In comparison, I also bought a firearm and lots of ammunition at the same time with another store, and they charged me $30 UPS shipping.

Conclusion: Fuck Marstar. I will never do business with them ever again unless they have something really interesting.

>>28467806
I believe in the legend of the Timmies Tokarev Tornado,

The Concealed Carry Cacophany.
The Pocket Pistol Pickle.
The Gat Grasping Gaffe.

>>28467792
>>28467682
y u posting traps

>>28467828
That sounds fucking retarded. And yeah, their online store is a fucking mess and I've seen Johnone on CGN defend their out of stocks like it's not a big deal. Why complain about people asking for product when they won't even remove them from the website? Yeah, you can filter out of stocks. Then you're left with like, 5 guns worthy of note, that every other dealer also has - on a more pleasant and easy to use store.

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>>28467893
y not tho

>>28467912
>Yeah, you can filter out of stocks
Correction, you can filter VISIBLE out of stocks.

Some items may appear "In Stock," but then after you've placed an order, you might get an e-mail later saying "sorry this item is actually out of stock," all the while the page still reads "In Stock" and continues to do so for a few more days.

>>28465925
.32 acp is prohib tho...

>>28467963
Handguns using .32 cal are prohib. Skorpion is a rifle

>>28467985
o true

all i ever wanted was a walther ppks... but noooo-ooooo

fuckin dicks

>>28468004
ppk/s is the 22lr version. You can get restriced ones but they look dumb as fuck (wanted one so i got one)

>>28467485
>Some of the officers were armed with submachine guns and
grenades.
The absolute fuck

>>28467958
I remember a while back this happened to some bro who wanted a PTRD or PTRS or some shit. Greasy as fuck

>>28459629
I used to do that. Piled a bunch of junk in my trunk and forgot I had a Remington 870 back there for a year.

Tune in to CBC radio right now to listen to some reservist fudd calling progun people "aggressively childish" and having a "nutty worldview".

>>28467922
post some hidden gems then, I already know Eduarda whatsherface and Kalindra

>>28466506
Small business friend here... They also have the best shipping rates available.

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>>28468193
I don't even have much of a collection on this computer, I just post drop a few as breadcrumbs to see who knows what's what :^)

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>>28466226
>Implying I haven't. Multiple times.
Truth is I think I'm done arguing with brick walls that smell like shit. I'm tired anon. I hate this place. I wan't out. (I mean I'd take Alberta, but the US just seems so much more fun)

>>28458342
>are they legit

They've been in the business before you were swimming around in your dads sack

>>28468129
The RCMP view themselves as being made of finer clay than the rest of us; a band of Elites, destined to preserve and lord over the unwashed masses, their sworn duty to subjugate the plebs to their will. If it wasn't already obvious by now, the RCMP are not friends of Canada, they are on the same level as the Brown Shirts.

>>28467881
Sides=Smashed like two particles in the Large Hadron Collider. Scientists discover the elusive Higgs Boson in the scattered remnants of my sides.

>>28467828
Canada post doesnt handle ammunition, thats why you had 2 shipments

>>28468173
Apparently people who own guns for reasons other that hunting or sport shooting are white supremacists!

>>28468336
So because the rcmp doesn't follow the law does that me I don't have to either? To late already started making stens. Will be selling them for 100$ each, full auto only

>>28468388
Hypothetically everyone should be doing whatever they want so long as they're not hurting others. In practice, I generally do what keeps me out of jail.

YMMV

>>28468173
Goddammit, why can't they bring on proper progun reservist gun owners for once? They aren't even that hard to find, most gun owner reservists I know aren't anything like fudds and support shit like CC.

>>28468490
This shit is a three-man panel railing against guns, white people (who are naturally racist), and of course, fucking capitalism because why not throw that in.

Why do we pay tax money for this?

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>>28468490
>imblying they don't look for people to support their narrative

>>28468374
Still doesn't make sense. They could've just shipped the firearm together with the ammunition through UPS.

Also, what are volume discounts. Couriers usually offer a discount rate to businesses, which makes shipping affordable to customers.

It makes no sense that I had to pay $60 to ship ammo through UPS and $40 to ship a firearm through Canada Post.

Again, the one time I didn't shop with Marstar, I only paid $30 to ship a firearm AND ammunition through UPS.

>>28468510
Also, >muh NRA.

>>28468539
AR15s are useless for hunting, they're assault weapons designed to spray bullets.

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>>28468557

>>28468434
I follow 3 laws. Don't rape, don't murder, and don't steal. And of course I uphold social contracts like don't lie, or manipulate for personal gain. Everything else doesn't adhere to me as Im a sovereign citizen. If Im not on my property, I will respect Canadas laws. On my property I follow my own laws.

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>>28468579
Based.

>pic not related at all.

>>28455026
>has a hitler tattoo
>hates troops
see each of those things on their own would be a /pol/ thing but together? idk...

>>28468621
Could it just be memes for the laughs? or are nazis generally this dumb?

>>28468621
I don't actually have a hitler tattoo, it's Stalin, and I only hate troops who fought after Korea

>>28466506
vulgarity aside, i do agree with you that UPS is absolutely shit tier. buddy of mine ordered some ammo and couldn't receive it because it came during his working hours. they tried three times and then just said "fuck it" and sent it back to where it was ordered from.

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>>28468642
Far out man

>>28468656
I don't know if I'd completely write of UPS based on that one experience though.

First attempt was a fail because your friend was at work, therefore unavailable to sign for it at home.

Based on this incident alone, one can easily deduce that should there be another delivery attempt, results will be similar. The driver doesn't know when you are and aren't home. Hell, it might not even be the same driver the next time around.

When a delivery has been unsuccessfully attempted, they'll usually leave a note at your door. Should you get one of these, you should call the number on the note. Call the number and get something arranged. Maybe arrange a different delivery time. They're not gonna know when is a good time unless you tell them when. Hell, offer to pick it up from one of their offices. That way, your package won't move around, it'll just stay there, waiting for you.

If you don't like what's happening, you gotta stand firm and tell them that it's not working out for you. If you just sit around and do nothing, just waiting until they magically get it right, only for them to return to sender, then no surprise that it happened.

>>28468579
>doesn't adhere to me as Im a sovereign citizen
As in, a full on adherent of the Sovereign Citizen movement?

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>>28468579
>I AM A SOVEREIGN CITIZEN

>>28468991
>>28468944
last time I heard about "Sovereign Citizens" some guy was holed up in a hotel room after declaring it his "embassy" or some shit

>>28468944
The sovereign citizens movement had been tarnished by chucklefucks in america. Like that father and son who executed two cops for pulling them over then got into a shoot out with cops in a Walmart parking lot while trapped in their mini van.

>>28469082
The movement is fucking retarded even without that. They use false legal loopholes and archaic and inapplicable law to try to convince the government that they are not subject to its authority, despite the fact that this law is written, interpreted, and enforced by that same government. It's like playing a game with a child who gets to set and change all the rules at will; you can never win, because the entire game is rigged against you.

If you disagree with the government, just call yourself an anarchist or minarchist. Those political philsophies have existed for centuries, and there are a great many arguments for each of them, none of which involve screaming "am i being detained", calling yourself a "traveller", and citing vaguely-related 18th century admiralty law.

>>28454267
If that happens, i'm just going to build a bunch and buzz their office building really fast

>>28468867
see i think he was planning to pick it up once they eventually got tired of trying to deliver but as i understand it they had a policy against holding ammo in their warehouse or something and that was the reason it got sent back.

>>28456727
>>28456693
>>28456657
>>28456676
Can I still mount a NR rifle aircraft cabled or small-chained to the wall on a rack?

>>28458342
Don't buy their cheapo flip up sights. They sell them as a pair but they don't mention anywhere that the front one is a gas mount. There are no gas blocks with rails to be had aftermarket in Canada. I ended up using mine for 9mm target practice at 25 yards when the springs crapped out

>>28466253
At least canpar ships guns and ammo together. Not in the same box but separate packages. And for some reason I got my (unlocked 1911) and 1000 rds of .45 a day before my reggie card came in the mail

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>>28469587
I believe so as long as the wire is "secured" (as in locked at some point) AND the wire goes through the action or blocks the firearm action.

Easiest way is a cable lock through the action.

>>28469651
My experience with Canpar has been shitty, OTOH. Who the fuck runs a shipping company that closes at 6 every day and doesn't work on the weekend? I had to get out of work early just to pick my shit up.

>>28469587
Just leave them out and say your admiring them, counts as "in use". Our laws are incredibly vague, use it against them and make them look retarded

Marstar's website isn't even that old. Like 2-3 years tops. Their old static one was better. This new one is an abortion.

Also, Canpar works great if you can ship to your work and be there. Sucks if you ship to your house.

Is there a complete list of Non-Restricted, Restricted and Prohibited weapons in Canada? Detailed list?

>>28469917
Yea

>>28469917
Yup RCMP/Dealer/Verifier only

You can ask here some of us know alot from memory

Is it legal to ccw this for animal defense? Or should I care?
>http://www.antiquegunscanada.com/Colt-1889-in-41LC-with-3-barrel-12.htm

>>28470908
Not a firearm just do it.
Plus .41LC is pretty much the second best antique chambering.

>>28470916
Also looking at this but that's my entire budget on firearms for the year, but would they fuck me cause it's not an 'obsolete' caliber? Or again should I care what criminals and thrives say?
https://www.antiquegunscanada.com/Colt-Single-Action-Army-Nickel-1A.htm

>>28470965
What about 44 special or 44 russian?

>>28470970
Sorry didn't look into the second link.
I'm not entirely sure if .44 special or russian qualify as antique calibers. I'll see if i can find anything substantial on them.

>>28470983
44 russian yes.
44 special no as the cartidge was designed in 1907 after the antique time period cut-off.

It could be that the 44 special gun was made as a different caliber and converted which people do to 455 Webley guns so i guess it still flies.

>>28470983
If i used an antique in a self defense shooting would I be brought up on real firearms charges? Or could concealing a weapon?

>>28471000
If you got caught concealing an antique you would most likely be charged but can beat that charge easily.

An antique used in the commission of a crime is considered a firearm. ie. armed robbery, threating people, assault, murder, etc.

>>28471012
So if I'm not a criminal I'm good? I have a restricted firearms license so I'm the least likely person to be carrying for nefarious reasons

>>28471000
>>28471012
Shit i'm tired.

For SD with an antique you would probably be charged but another easy win assuming you can prove your life was in danger. As SD with a firearm is legal in life threatening circumstances.

>>28471022
What if you have charges already for being with the wrong person but have very dangerous criminals after you and have received phone calls saying your gonna end.up in a trunk? We're talking HA or something.
I'm asking this all for a friend, and me aswell, I have a rpal, my friend doesn't, she's just scared for her life right now and I'm trying to help out. Neither of us have faith in the rcmp keeping her safe

>>28471118
I'm sure it would make things more difficult but then again some guy did kill a cop on weapons prohibition and got away with it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basil_Parasiris

>>28471146
Excellent. Also crazy tok guy get a fucking antique you magnificent bastard.

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>>28453967

Didnt realize you cunts had a general.

>>28471508

Could you guys plz name some choice antique firearms that are legal under the Canadian system...outlined in that thread I made that no one wants to fucking post in lol

>>28468336

I have a cousin who is like a bull dyke farm girl with absolutely zero reason and logic, who starts dramas in the family over almost nothing at all and is petty and on twitter etc.. and she joined the RCMP.

Not very high standards is all I can say, probably like in the US where they turn you down if youre too smart.

>>28471548
>>Not focusing on front sight...

>>28471548
http://www.antiquegunscanada.com/Colt-1889-in-41LC-with-3-barrel-12.htm

http://www.antiquegunscanada.com/Colt-1892-25-barrel-41LC-22.htm

http://www.antiquegunscanada.com/Remington-No4-38RF-4.htm

http://www.antiquegunscanada.com/Smith-Wesson-DA44-15.htm

>>28471548
See also>>28470959
>>28470970

>>28471578
Fugged that up

>>28471572
>http://www.antiquegunscanada.com/Smith-Wesson-DA44-15.htm

So whats the deal with the ammunition, Im guessing the law excludes all modern types and its a pain in the ass to refill them or something?

Also, more suggestions that arent 2k would be nice lol

>>28471591
Anything less than 2k is in rimfire calibers or even worse pinfire. And 44 russian is an antique caliber and reloads as easily as anything else, same with 41lc

>>28471598

Well I mean the antique ammunition obviously is pretty rare, do people make modern reproductions of old ammunition styles for reasonable prices?

I dont know much about guns, I understand rimfire is less optimal as compared to center fire, but I wouldnt rule it out entirely.

How about some shotguns? Availability of ammunition and suggestions etc

>>28471609
Yes you can get modern production 38 rimfire, 41lc, and 44russian, it doesn't need to be actually antique, and most antique shotguns are muzzle loaders or Damascus steel and need brass shells otherwise they'll explode

>>28471630

So where would you get brass shells, and would you need to fill them yourself?

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>>28471654
>>28471630

Like would this not be an effective shotgun? Looks pretty nice for 650.

>>28456797
I call bait... This is clearly an AK47

>>28471718
It's an AKM you fuckin nogunz

>>28471654
Any gunshow. And yes you have to reload them, easy as pissing, don't even need a press.
>>28471691
Not antique

>>28471522
No. I like my Tok. Besides, I'm fairly certain they'll try to fuck you just as hard, antique or no.

>>28471858
Not really, can't charge you with firearms crime if you aren't using a firearm

>>28467069
AK pouches are actually smaller, the only AK mag pouches that I've heard will reliably fit VZ58 mags are the East German ones.

>>28472031
An antique firearm is treated as a regular firearm if used to commit a crime.

>>28472187
Not a crime to defend yourself if you're about to be killed. No sane jury would convict someone of defending themselves with a 100+ year old obsolete revolver. Some how a 75 year old semi obsolete pistol is worse cause it semi auto and more dangerous.

>>28472203
HD with a firearm is legal, but don't assume you can legally carry an antique because "it's really, REALLY old, guyz!" You think more people wouldn't carry if that was the case?
So if we're referring to HD, I have better guns for that. And antique or not, CC is illegal, and you will get screwed for it. So I'll carry my preferred pistol, thanks.

>>28469917
http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-98-462/FullText.html

>>28472237
As long as you load the mag wearing gloves and sprint several kilometres without a break it doesn't matter what you carry, it's only illegal if you get caught. And I doubt the rcmp would aggressively pursue a case of chief alcohol syndrome the meth dealer being shot to death in a shady part of city, if your not retarded you'll get away, probably more than once

>>28472260

Thanks family member

>>28472273
Doesn't give you a ton of detail, but should cover the generalities.

Serious inquiry:
You can't have something for the purpose of defending yourself but you CAN use items to defend yourself, right?

So you could in theory have some reproduction scutum and a long hard phallus shaped object for defense and when questioned, you can say you had them around because you're into Roman LARPing. Complete with battles and orgies.

This is possible, right?

>>28472307
Yeah, owning something for the express purpose of defending yourself is illegal, however you can use whatever is on hand to defend yourself if attacked.

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>>28472424
AWW YUSSSS

>>28472441
Just remember to state at every opportunity that you were in fear of your life.

>>28459572
>Guy comes up with a very reasonable argument.
>Crickets
/k/ a magical place

>>28472514
What is there to argue about that? Almost everyone here agrees with that statement.

>>28459572
>>28472514

Alright, then to play Devil's advocate: the problem with legalizing weed is that people who wouldn't try it when it was illegal will now be more likely to do so. We saw this in the US with Prohibition- contrary to many views, alcohol consumption decreased during Prohibition and increased afterwards. It will also be easier for the underaged to toke up.

This is troubling because there are several studies that strongly suggest marijuana is not a good thing for developing brains. It's one thing for an adult to smoke up but another entirely for a teen. Also, modern marijuana has much higher THC and CBD content than older strains, and again the effects of this higher concentration can be a concern for certain vulnerable people. From Wikipedia:

"... a number of reviews have concluded that cannabis use only results in a significant increase in risk of psychosis when coupled with additional risk factors, in particular, an underlying genetic vulnerability."

In other words, we have a greater chance of exposing people with that greater risk of psychosis if we legalize marijuana (leading to increased use).

There, an argument.

Tips for weekend BMQ?

>>28472629
Stand tall, stand proud.

>>28472446

So taking out your gun from the safe and loading a round when a home invasion is happening is fine?

>>28472629
Former CF at my work told me that when I get to BMQ, to "always be the grey man." Seems like sound advice.

Nice enough guy, too bad he's fuddy as fuck.

Do we still do Canadian meetups? I met up with a fellow from here once, and it's the reason I have a gun and a license now.
>Sherbrooke, QC area here

>>28472753
Yeah, also note that having loaded mags is legal, as long as it isn't in your gun.

>>28473287

I see. Always thought you were going to get ass fucked for using firearms for self defense.

>>28473306
No, but it will still suck, you want to be able to convince the prosecutors you were in fear of your life when you shot (IE you have to shoot them in the front so they can't say they were retreating) and expect to get charged with by law on the book which will steadily be dropped as the court date approaches and you continue to refuse plea bargains.
>Don't take the plea bargains unless you think you'll actually lose in court, but remember that self defense with a gun is legal if you thought your life was in danger.

>>28472701
>>28472831
I'm not really worried about the physical part, its more the nitty bitty details, inspections, drill, etc

>>28472528
Im not sure about that. Seeing some of the previous posts in this thread on the subject begs to differ.

>>28472606
Id say that its just as easy for kids to get ahold of it now with sales being in the hands of shady individuals. Legalization would bring stronger regulation and stiffer penalties for people who provide it to minors.

Right now there is no "legal age" for marijuana so there is no seperate law regarding kids in possession of it or it being sold to them.

>>28474208
It's slightly harder now because it's generally harder to get weed than if it was legal for an adult to buy. Legalization takes out the first hurdle for an adult to sell to a minor- getting the marijuana in the first place.

> Legalization would bring stronger regulation and stiffer penalties for people who provide it to minors.

We could have stiffer penalties for giving marijuana to a minor now even if it's still illegal for an adult. We could just create a separate offense- giving weed to a kid- and add an appropriately stiff sentence on top of the possession of weed charge.

But beyond that, if we legalize marijuana for adults but keep it illegal for the underaged, we still have the crime problem.

>>28474289
Don't forget DUI charges need to be formatted for legal weed to work, namely was is the legal level of THC in the blood for driving (equivalent to a BAC) and how do you detect it in a roadside setting.

AR-15 Reclassification Petition is live
https://petitions.parl.gc.ca/en/Petition/Details?Petition=e-111

>>28475904
I signed it, it's like 5 fields and email verification.

>>28473916
You have nothing to worry about. You have to be literally retarded to fail BMQ, and even then they'll try their hardest to push you through. It's a fucking joke.

>But beyond that, if we legalize marijuana for adults but keep it illegal for the underaged, we still have the crime problem.
If we look at the way underage people acquire cigarettes, we can see that this does not follow. Rather than having to go specifically to an illicit cigarette dealer, any teen can simply ask one of his friends' older siblings or acquaintances and get straw-purchased cigs no problem. Same with alcohol. And we can expect the same to happen with marijuana.

So while it is true that there will still be "crime" in the sense of illegal straw purchases, it will not be the same kind of crime associated with drugs today (ie. organized crime and gang-violence).

>>28476114
fuck, bottom meant for >>28474289

>>28475904
https://petitions.parl.gc.ca/en/Petition/Details?Petition=e-54

Lol. Our hate speech laws may be bullshit, but they're not that bullshit.

>>28475904
>https://petitions.parl.gc.ca/en/Petition/Details?Petition=e-111
>Alberta doing so much
Wow thats something
is Alberta really Canadian Texas as I've heard?

>>28476639
Different in some ways but undeniably awesome in many.

>>28476639
Pretty much, we're similar economic focus and (to some extent) culture.

>>28476639
Huh, 1800 in a day isn't bad.
Hopefully people keep with it

>>28476114
That's right, but we still end up with the problem of more young people using marijuana and the attendant risks associated with marijuana use and developing brains.

Anyways, that's about all the Devil's Advocate I can handle for now. I think I would find it very amusing if weed users had to jump through the same hoops as gunowners, however.

>>28476787
There is just short of 8000 people in a facebook group promoting the petition that started a month ago so expect at least 8000 signature. I'll be spamming it to anyone bro enough to sign guns or no guns.

>>28475904
I've done my part, but I won't hold my breath that this will actually accomplish anything, especially with Justin "Empower the Police" Trudeau in charge.

I would absolutely love for ARs to become NR. I wish I could be given a reason for why it's Restricted and so stigmatized, but antis literally can't think of anything other than "it looks like the automatic M4 that the military uses, so therefore it IS one". I want someone who is passionately anti-guns to sit down with me and carefully explain using actual, fact-based reasons why the AR15 specifically needs to be so controlled.

>>28477208
The AR got caught in the push to ban ALL semi autos that looked like military guns.
It took lobbying from the shooting sports to get it simply restricted.

>>28477497
The best part is how mad they are over ACRs XCRs and VZ58s

>>28477497
>Just look at it! It looks like the gun our military uses!
>LOOK AT IT
>No, I don't really know how it works, or what makes it so special compared to other guns...
>BUT JUST LOOK AT IT
>THAT'S ALL THE REASON YOU NEED

Plus that whole thing with the Blaze-47 is enough to give me an ulcer.

>>28478051
Lol they actually prohibited the Blaze 47?

>>28478780
Yeah they decided it was an AK variant after seeing it at shot show

>>28478849
In all fairness, it really REALLY looked like an AK

Any person with common sense could understand how dangerous something like that is.

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>>28478873
Well what about those refugees? They kinda look like terrorists, so maybe we should prohibit them too.

Oh, and anything that has ever personally scared me; it should be banned, because if it looks a certain way and hurts my faggot bitch nigger feelings, it shouldn't be allowed.

>>28478975
>They kinda look like terrorists, so maybe we should prohibit them too.
Fine by me

>>28474289
Weed isnt harder for kids to get now just because its illegal. Just like alcohol or tobacco kids can get it pretty easily through other kids at school and relatives.

>>28474410
This is actually being done as part of it.