Would you kill a surrendering enemy?

>>28439318
METTC

if my tl or sl says i can.

>>28439318
Unless he was of some value, yes.

>>28439318
Only muslim ones.

>>28439318

If wearing a uniform/flag patch; No.

Being an irregular; Yes.

>>28439356
This.

>>28439318
Not while his intel is still relevant. After that it's really up to what my mission is. If I cannot have him securely transferred to any other unit more equipped with dealing him there's really no other option since I cannot keep him imprisoned while I'm on the move..

So in certain cases out of necessity yes.

>>28439318
Irregular types, yeah. They'd just slip away and come back to fight again otherwise.

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>>28439318
Killing a surrendering soldier is against code of honor

>>28439399
>We'll just kill them by the masses in the POW camps instead of saving ourselves the trouble!
>It's the honorable way, duh.

>>28439399
>Honor

>In war

>Nazis

>Honorable soldiers

kek, you stormfront types are fucking retarded.

>>28439399

>german soldiers in charge of not killing prisoners

>>28439318

Yup. On a case-by-case basis. He's support personnel or an officer who could yield valuable intel, no. He was firing at my men, and now he's wounded or outnumbered and gave up to save himself, yes.

>>28439399
Yeah, it's better to work/beat and starve them to death.

>>28439407
The Nuremburg Trials found that the Wehrmacht wasn't an inherently criminal organization.

There were tons of Heer servicemen who never broke the laws of war.

>>28439407
Most honorable. When will JIDF stop spreading their lies.

>>28439318

If the work/risk of moving him back to where we could get Intel out of him, and what Intel we could get out of him, outweighs how useful his info could be, I'm shooting him and moving on with my day.

>go to war with a country like russia or china
>19 year old conscript surrenders
Yes.
>jihadi john and his merry band of murderous rapist pedophiles
Fuck no. Blind fold them, one in the back of the head

>>28439431
Yeah, keep buying into that, mister "HITLOR DIN DO NUFFIN" "THE LOLLERCAUST NEVER HPPNED" WTC DID BY TEH JOOWS" fucking tinfoil hat piece of shit.

>>28439405
They die to the elements, its not the fault of people in charge of P.O.W's that their countries and governments don't fucking care about them
>>28439407
nice ad hominem
>>28439408
why would they ?
>>28439423
It's not up the the soldier to decide the fate of P.O.W's, it comes down to government

>>28439318
>tfw they were actually speaking czech and trying to explain that they were forced to do it

>>28439469
Wait, I worded that incorrectly.
For the first scenario, I WOULD accept the surrender.

>>28439318
yep

>>28439431
The Nurembur trials ware probably the most illegal shit that ever happened, no only did German's got cuxed first time by having to pay for war, but second time they got fucking trialed for doing something everyone else did not only that they got fucking judged by the people they lost the fucking war to instead of their own country men, which is just beyond ludicrous

>LEL THE NAZIS NEVER KILLED UNARMED CIVILIANS BY THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS IF NOT MILLIONS

>IS ALL A JEW LIE!!!!!11111oneoneone

When will this meme end?

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>>28439498
>start a war
>commit war crimes
>lose the war
>complain when people prosecute you for war crimes

>>28439469
> Fuck no. Blind fold them, one in the back of the head
Brb I.E.D

>>28439498
Well... They DID start the war.

>>28439510
>War crimes
JIDF please.

Nope I wouldn't. First of all I'm not a total edgelord, second of all the enemy needs to believe we actually allow them to surrender.
I am however aware that emotions run high in war, you might start hating your enemy immensely.. so I can't promise I would never kill one.

>>28439510
> war crimes
> crimes in war
Thats like me and you start beating the shit out of each other and I fucking kill you and then I sue you and you get charged with murder

>>28439399
why are they posing like this on a firefly? It almost make an impression that they are manning this tank. If so then the picture is very related to the nature of your post

Only if he is white, black, or Muslim.

>>28439519
They had no choice, Poles refused diplomacy, Brits ware blowing fairy dust up Poles ass on how they ware going to support them if shit goes down, Soviet Union was massing armies on Eastern Front, conflict was unavoidable

>>28439525
Get the fuck back on over to /pol/ where you belong stormfag.

>>28439507
Are you really that dense?
German Wehrmacht regulars =/= Nazis.
That's the whole fucking argument.
Just because a SELECT group commits atrocities during wartime doesn't mean the ENTIRE army should be held accountable.
Imagine if every US soldier was compared to that faggot who killed 16 afghani civilians a few years back?
Imagine if ALL US servicemen were villainized that way?
Do you understand the slippery slope of your argument?

>>28439536
That's not it at all. People like to think that anything goes in war, but no, it doesn't.
It's chaotic and it gets personal and messy etc.but never forget that as a soldier you are employed by a military organization and you have orders and laws you have to follow. You are not a savage with no consequences to worry about. Probably sounds like a buzzkill but that's the reality.

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>>28439540
Probably hunting trophy

>>28439568
EVERYTHING not weapons related belong to /pol/, faggot.

>>28439511
>implying they're going to stop planting IEDs no matter how we treat our prisoners of war
>Islamic radicals =/= rules of war and general logic

>>28439529
The most logical and realistic response yet.

>>28439318
I would not execute a surrendered soldier.* Three point reasoning being: intel, morale, and professionalism. If you don't execute surrendered soldiers, there is less incentive for them to fight to the death, which may lead to easier victories down the road. Gathering intel from captured troops, also increases victory chances. Professionalism, may seem a bit odd but both are people doing a job, not much need to make things too personal.

*Enemies that do not accept prisoners will be less likely to have surrender accepted, unless the benefits outweigh the risk. Line troops might be spared some level of brutality, officers will be squeezed for intel then executed.

>>28439561
>They had no choice

>Greedy as fuck expansionist greed cuzz "WE DUH SUPEREROR RACE"

>People unironically believe that Germany during world war two is completely faultless.

Boy oh boy...

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Anyone want a cigarette?

>>28439568
Where would you tell him to go before /pol/ ?

>>28439605
/news/
Newfag untermensch.

>>28439569
>Implying the vast majority of the Wehrmacht wasn't nazi or at least nazi sympathetic.

And you're calling ME dense?

>>28439574
Both sides are committing heinous crimes against humanity, not only killing military personnel but civilians en masse, judging ones side leadership just because they lost the conflict is preposterous and it doesn't absolve the winnings sides crimes

>>28439620
>implying wherever their actual sympathies went, the majority of them were still war criminals and should have been treated the same as SS officers rounding up jews and putting them in ovens

>>28439405
>believing propaganda lies

>>28439474
You're a retard.

>>28439581
>military discussion
>not /k/

go back to /r9k/ newfag scum

>>28439598
>Germany wan't absolute evil
>YOU'RE SAYING GERMANY HAD NO FAULT AT ALL
goy oh goy..

>>28439598
That was their land, Poles ware raping, killing and robbing ethnic Germans in those lands, they refused to give Danzig, which had like 90% ethnic Germans living there, Poles refused a railroad to Danzig even if Germans said they would pay for it, Poles went full fucking retard pulling lions whiskers thinking they ware something they ware not

>>28439635
there are some benefits to winning a war

>>28439643
>Subverting historical fact to fit your own jaded, pathetic political views.

Nazi memesters are fucking annoying.

>LOLOLOL JIDF SCUM

I don't give two shits about jews. But don't give me this whole "holocaust never happened bullshit" it is the single most limpwristed bullshit argument on the planet.

>>28439608
Thats cool, I thought cross board posting was a myth

>>28439318
Nice try, Amnesty.

>>28439639
>our 1940's oven burns so fast, much faster than MODERN CREMATION IN 2016.
Average time of a MODERN cremation: EIGHT fucking hours
And you want to tell me that the Nazi's spent ALL that time and ALL those resources actually doing that?

Do you fucking believe comic books are history when you read them?

Why are people so fucking stupid? You honest to god eat up everything the government shits down your throat.

>>28439655
I didn't say evil. Did I?

Hamfisted expansionism is a bullshit excuse to start a war.

>LOL WE NEEDS MOAR LIBENSRAUM U GUISE

>>28439654
>le newfag
Why are you suggesting that solely to me, but not to him?

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Depends

If it's some random infantry who just got left behind, than no

If it's some sniper who's been putting holes in your buddies around you, than I'd shoot that fucker between the eyes

>>28439577
>panzer IV with schmalturm in action....

yeah this roen911 should either stay in WoT or study some materials before drawing shit.

>>28439704
Making up shit and arguing based on the strawman is bullshit.

>>28439698
>Implying they burned the vast majority instead of just dumping them into mass unmarked graves.

Maybe like one camp seriously used ovens.

They didn't all do it you fucking moron.

>>28439361
This is pretty much the only right answer.

>tfw I'm turning into a hippie
I'd say if there was any way to get them into a close prison and it wasn't a big firefight sure, but how far out of your way would you be willing to go to save someone while under fire? Hearing a radio program on the Nigerian rehabilitation programs for Boko Haram fighters was actually really inspiring. Most of them reformed and were reintegrated into society after a while.

Remember, to their brainwashed heads you're just as much of an enemy. I would hope they would show compassion, but even if they didn't I'm an Amurrican and I like to think Amurrica is better than Jihadistan.

>>28439698
>The Vrba–Wetzler report offers the following description.

>At present there are four crematoria in operation at BIRKENAU, two large ones, I and II, and two smaller ones, III and IV. Those of type I and II consist of 3 parts, i.e.,: (A) the furnace room; (B) the large halls; and (C) the gas chamber. A huge chimney rises from the furnace room around which are grouped nine furnaces, each having four openings. Each opening can take three normal corpses at once and after an hour and a half the bodies are completely burned. This corresponds to a daily capacity of about 2,000 bodies... Crematoria III and IV work on nearly the same principle, but their capacity is only half as large. Thus the total capacity of the four cremating and gassing plants at BIRKENAU amounts to about 6,000 daily.[30]

Mass cremation isn't actually that hard.

The Indonesians managed to do it on the fly after that big tsunami in 2004.

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>>28439719
Its just a picture

>>28439399
Killing rabble that can't possibly pay ransom was chivalric, as was killing nobles that couldn't or wouldn't pay ransom.

>>28439722
Yeah, okay then. What was Germany's actual justification then?

School me, if you know such more than me.

>>28439683
>muh shoes
>muh hair
>muh skin lampshades
>muh cremation that takes 8 hours per body
If you legitimately believe that the holocaust happened on the scale of '6 million' then you are an absolute fucking retard. Germany put ALL of their resources which was just barely enough to fight on two fronts. Why the FUCK would they waste it on Jews? It does not fucking matter that they tried to take over the country with communism. They would not have done that. Majority of deaths at concentration camps came from typhoid (from ally bombings) and, take a guess, ally bombings.

The victor writes history. So fucking easy to cover up your own war crimes by blaming the loser.

>>28439719
It's a terrible drawing, but some say the turret saw some action in the end of the war.

>>28439735
>wikipedia
trashman.jpg

>>28439498
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_trials
>outright murdering 12 million people and wasting Germany's resources
>complains about being charged for being a prick

>>28439759
>muh cremation that takes 8 hours per body

>Cremation blah, blah, blah.

See >>28439732

>>28439759
> bombs half the country
> no food for soldiers fighting
> food for P.O.W's ?????

>>28439318
If normal infantry yes.
If sniper no , impale him with his own rifle

>>28439318
werent these guys like some friendly?

>>28439772
>no source
>ignoring the fact that it isn't at all hard to build crematoria that can work at a rapid pace
>ignoring the fact that archaeologists have found bone fragments consistent with cremation in the soil near Treblinka

All I can hear is damage control.

>>28439759
The main body that investigated the Holocaust, the British, actually had strong incentives to play down the killing of Jews in Europe. At this point Jews were flooding into Palestine at an alarming rate, and full scale insurgency was already going on.

>>28439783
There is a video on youtube about a group of scientists who went to a few concentration camps and used GP radars on the 'mass graves.' They found nothing.

Here's one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVKOfAu90es&bpctr=1452030021

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If he had kidnapped my waifu, then yes I would kill him

>>28439775
> Fighting a war
> doing everything in power to win the war
> lose
> the victors come and punish you to hanging for losing the war
Lmao you can't make this shit up, in few hundred years we will look back upon that time and be like what the fuck ware they thinking

>>28439815
>GP radars

>"Yeah dood, you can totally find 60+ year old buried corpses by using GPS".

Fucking idiot, I bet you think those guys in ghost hunting shows with ereader or some shit are serious buisness too.

>>28439842
Yes you actually fucking can. How the fuck do you think they find remains of soldiers from past wars? You can find fucking ash samples you dipshit.

>>28439842
>
Fucking idiot, I bet you think those guys in ghost hunting shows with ereader or some shit are serious buisness too.

Oh right, you can't even argue it. You're just resorting to empty bullshit to make claims.

>>28439842
How do you think they find dead bodies from centuries ago? Skeletons still exist you goddamn retard.

>>28439709
/pol/smoker stormfags gonna smoke /pol/

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>>28439741
do you have more pictures like those? I am starting bullshit drawing and picture folder

something like pic related (this picture is amazing on so many levels)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPuMRpM4xtM

why can't we have a nice thread? 40 posts of this thread are people making elementary arguments for holocaust denial

>>>/pol/

>>28439759
Cremation as the sole means of death has never been the claim. Good job blowing up an argument that nobody is making

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>You will never plunge a Hitler youth knife into a Jewish american soldier while you whisper German words of comfort into his ear

>>28439733
Based.

>>28439733
Pretty good answer.

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>>28439901
I got you senpai

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>>28440101

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>>28440112

>>28439603
N-no thanks Lieutenant...

I would only kill americans drone operators. And that with the edgiest fedora-tipping way possible (flaying and salting, impaling thru the ass, lingchi etc.)

To make them feel a fraction of the pain and fear that they are arrogantly committing against everyone else from their comfy and secured containers.

>>28439318
That depends on the depth of his surrender.

>>28439839
Yeah...they'll wonder why they even got a trial.

>>28440188
Somebody is assdevistated

>>28440208
Yes, I am.

It is literally the most cowardly, arrogant and spiteful way of war. Sure, in war, this doesnt count, if you win. But beware of when you lose. Your captors wont forgive you for what you have done.

The British Longbowmen of the 100 years war knew what will happen to them, when they got captured by the French. And so should US drone operators.

>>28440235
So you're pissed because they won't meet you on the honorable field of battle? Instead of blowing you up from 30000 ft up they blow you up from thousands of miles away?

You're already dead littlesheet-head, enjoy your 2 goats and a hooker.

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>>28440163
>>28440112
>>28440101
>this silence the triggered chosen person

Honestly I dont know if I would accept the surrender of a jihadi faggot. Even the "white" bosniaks did some horrible shit to pow serbs when they got all buddy buddy with ayrab volunteers.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=793_1386090145
this guy knows whats up

>waving white flag to non white armies or pre cold war rueskies
>ever

>>28440235
That brings up the question do people who make drones should be executed ?

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Depends

Had said army killed many of my buddies?
Had said army bombed and killed my countrymen?

In which case, probably yes. Assuming nobody was around to see me execute an unarmed person.

>>28439603
underrated post

>>28439348
Its easy not having to think for yourself is it?

>>28440290
Weapon smiths AFAIK were never executed by the victors of any war or conquest.

Even the mongols spared the Chinese siege engineers to incorporate them in their army.

>>28439318
If it's a non-white, or I'm conquering his land, yes

>>28440283
As said, you can use it in a war as much as you want. But make sure you always win. Because the revenge will be horrible, when you lose.

>>28440101
>>28440112
>>28440163
thanks bro

btw afaik the ppsh41 was used also as captured weapon on german side. Butit might be a myth that I got somewhere in the past

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>>28440235
please for the love of god be trolling
you don't belong here faggot. Just leave and never come back

>>28439407
As a guy from a country that was occupied by both the Germans and Russians throughout history, all the stories point to the fact that the first ones were far more honorable and respectful.

>>28440353
Did that hurt your feelings?

Well, too bad.

We are discussing about whether or not to kill POWs. And this involves drone operators as well.
If people here talk about how they would shoot a sniper who has been killing his buddies from afar, I can say how I would flay and salt a drone operator for killing my buddies from afar.

>>28440335
If we have people attacking drone sites deep in the US then who we drone-strike is going to be the least of everyone's worries. Besides, you have to beat us first for anyone to worry about that.

>>28440335
>war is meant to be fair

Always said by the faggots that get BTFO in every war

هو أحد أجناس البوكيمون المتعددة وهو من النوع الكهربائي . يُعد من أشهر البوكيمونات نظرا لأنه أحد الشخصيات الأساسية لمسلسل البوكيمون.

ويُعد الآن أحد العلامات التي تدل على اليابان نظرا لأن مصدره من هناك .

كغيره من البوكيمونات يقاتل بيكاتشو في الأنمي وفي الألعاب .

>>28440431
No, war isnt meant to be fair.

But expecting fairness after a lost war is a folly as well. Especially when you have used heinously unfair practizes during the war.

No, i'd make sure they won't kill me but a surrendered enemy is hardly an enemy at all.

>>28440456
dirka dirka dirka muhammed jihad, pig fucker

>>28439405

>kill them in pow camps

yeah, it's not like their supply lines to the camps were being shot to shit indiscriminately and the roads were bombed out...

>>28439759
>why would the Nazis waste money better spent on more sensible things
Gee, I don't know, I can't think of any other time they made stupid decisions.

(not to mention that getting your slaves to build a camp, mostly from wood, then staffing it with slaves, locals and people to shit to be in the military, isn't much of a drain on resources).

>Jews tried to take over with communism
>the vast majority of German workers were left leaning before the Nazis
Guess they were all Jewish then.

>>28439474
found the crack smoker.

>>28440541
>Its the allies fault we cant feed our political/military prisoners!

>>28439482
Wrong scene

>>28439561
>Poles refused diplomacy
Why should they, still no excuse to stage a fake attack then team up with the Soviets, butt rape their country, then murder a large chunk of their population

>Soviet Union was massing armies on the Eastern Front
To attack Poland. In agreement with Germany.
Furthermore even if USSR did invade Germany it would have been better than attacking the USSR. Germans would probably have won that one, not mention have recieved help from the many anti-communist countries.
Germany fucked herself.

>>28440544
>he doesnt know about the German civil war pre WWII spearheaded by hebe leadership

>>28439635
>judging ones side leadership just because they lost the conflict is preposterous and it doesn't absolve the winnings sides crimes
See, retards like yourself think that if I put 'The Nazis committed war crimes' then I also must think that nobody else did, since I didn't mention them. It's like you require EVERYTHING to be spelled out or you make random assumptions.
We're well aware that the Russians did horrible shit, that the Japanese did horrible shit, that the Brits and Yanks did. Everyone did.
But we're not talking about everyone, we're just talking about Germany.
Not to mention that the Holocaust hasn't notoriety due to the numbers killed, or those killed. It's notorious due to the efficient and industrialised process. The meticulous records, the meetings, the paperwork etc etc

>>28439698
>Industrial oven=modern day cremation over
Got news for you bud.....

>>28439733
Stop being rational and sensible, you dick.

>>28440601
>he fell for the Dolchstoßlegende

PROTIP: Ludendorff was the one begging for an armistice.

>>28439839
>Victors put you on trial
>then the none-bastards, basically forgive most of you then pump millions of dollars into your country and turn it around in a decade or two
Sounds horrible.

>>28440601
Pretty much, that's the main reason why the Nazis called themselves the National SOCIALISTS, even though they deregulated the economy. It drew a lot of support away from the Jewish Communists, and those who actually had deep rooted support in communism could be identified and purged

>>28440345
The Germans used so many that they printed German language operation manuals for them.

>>28440484
>heinously unfair practices
You keep saying that like the word 'unfair' applies to war.
I think you're looking for 'better'.
Heinously better practices.

>>28439352
>>28439361
>>28439371
>>28439450
All these neckbeards with power fantasies

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The Quran explicitly states that Muslims shouldn't mistreat captives of war. Honestly one of the few things I take from the Quran to heart.

076.008
YUSUFALI: And they feed, for the love of Allah, the indigent, the orphan, and the captive,-
PICKTHAL: And feed with food the needy wretch, the orphan and the prisoner, for love of Him,
SHAKIR: And they give food out of love for Him to the poor and the orphan and the captive:

>>28439733
What the fuck are you doing on /k/? Isn't this the board for shut in with murder fantasies?

>>28440235
>cowerdly
>arrogant
>spiteful

Oh yes, let us return to the good ole days when we lined up in orderly lines and maul each other.

So gentlemanly.

Eat a dick.

>>28440847
Yet Isis does this because Hadith states that your prophet used to execute prisoners. So which one is the proper muslim way? And if it's you're way could you please try to explain that shit to you brothers in faith instead of us infidels who have our own rules, laws and treaties on the matter?

>>28440847

"Generally, a prisoner of war could be, at the discretion of the military leader, freed, ransomed, exchanged for Muslim prisoners, or kept in bondage.[1][2] In earlier times, the ransom sometimes took an educational dimension, where a literate prisoner of war could secure his or her freedom by teaching ten Muslims to read and write.[3] Some Muslim scholars hold that a prisoner may not be ransomed for gold or silver, but may be exchanged for Muslim prisoners.[4]"

From Wikipedia, obviously

>>28439318
>Would you kill a surrendering enemy?

of course not. unless they're WW2 Japs. fuck Japs

>>28439399
If you still believe in honor in war you are fucking retarded.

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A surrendering enemy is still an enemy. They all should be destroyed.

>>28440957
>ISIS
>My brothers

They want to blow up the Kaaba, which is pretty deviant for Islam. And as we all know the middle east since forever has its fair share of loony spiritual interpretation i.e every radical Islam group.

I am a westernized man, and admittedly my faith says stupid shit, sort of like any other faith when seen through the eyes of enlightenment thinkers like Locke and Payne. So of course Im going to think the proper Muslim way isnt beheading women in cloaks and raping 12 year olds.

And if you think I can explain this westernized view to a bunch of middle class fanatics from a completely different (in my opinion backwards) culture just because I technically share the same faith, you're fucking delusional. Assuming you're a white protestant, I want you to explain to the Westboro baptist church that protesting fallen soldier's funerals is wrong. Will they listen to you? Fuck no. Now you want me to do the same thing to people who will cut my head off for being a "low Muslim".

And I understand Europe is being cucked by dune-coon immigrants, but I abhor the situation and Muslims doing that. As an American, I subscribe to the American way of life, and I think it's fucking dreadful that these SJW bullies are forcing the western world to "compromise". Know that I can do as much to them as you can fight femenazis.

>>28441133

>Muslims
>doing the cucking

Our European brothers are just the tool

>>28441195

I should say our brothers in Europe... these immigrants have no power to "cuck" anyone

Probably. Yes.

>>28441133
Ok. Sorry for going in so aggressively but for most of the muslims I've met on the internet going in aggressively is going to create a strong response which usually betrays their fanaticism under that "moderate" mask.

>>28440847
there may be a translation/culture difference for what they mean by captive
for example it could only mean for muslim captives or non-war prisoners

someone with more knowhow on the subject should really say

>>28441213
WHEN WILL THAT WORD RETURN TO ITS ORIGINAL FUCKING MEANING.

>>28440791
It's not a power fantasy, it's practicality. You have to weigh the prisoners value against the complications that prisoner will create. If the prisoner is of no value, he's not worth any complications.

>>28441213
We should probably take this to /pol/ and not muddle this board with politics.But Europe needs a spine. Im sick of the SJWs pushing my faith on society. It's not for everyone, and they deserve to preserve their identity.

>>28439318
If i can get away with it. If a liberal leader is in charge we are already dead.

>>28441240
Yeah I completely understand and I forgive you. These are intense times and I sympathize wholeheartedly. There are too many Muslims pretending to be moderate, like snakes in brush. They're using the mask to force our faith down others throats and it's fucked.

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>>28439474
>Yeah, keep buying into that, mister fucking tinfoil hat piece of shit.

>>28441259
You will also have to weigh in the complications of killing that prisoner. If possible always let someone higher up the chain of command make the decision of how to deal with the prisoner.

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>>28439318
No, I would not, and anyone who does should be beaten to shit and court martialed. War is already shitty enough, if the guy gives up and throw's his gun down, he's out of it, no need to take his life.

>Inb4 fucking edgelords who couldn't kill a mouse start talking shit about how they'd mow down rows of POWs

>>28439318
No, that's not allowed in RoE. If I had some Dindu's that broke in my house trying to steal shit, then I'd be OK with killing them, even if they were just trying to escape.

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>>28439407
>current year
>not knowing the difference between Wehrmacht and Schutzstaffel

>>28441270

Hence why instead of being a "liberal Muslim", I am a somewhat-classically-Liberal, conservative Muslim who reluctantly agrees with much of what you say. I still maintain that Islam is he universal, true faith for Mankind and a mercy from Allah SWT. It also has nothing to do with "liberal" Postmodernism and the cancerous authoritarian leftism of Europe. There's not many better countries in which to be Muslim than USA, even now

>>28441342
Who's going to know?

>>28441404
If none other then you and your team. Stop trying to be edgy.

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>>28440456
Ahhh yes, Durka durka, durka jihad....

>>28439318
If his stats aren't that good. Not worth the fulton or a trip to the dumpster.

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>>28439407
Ah well you learn eventually. I could share with you some pictures of even SS soldiers helping bolsjevists, how no camp that has been inspeected by the US was deemed a destruction but mysteriously all soviet inspected camps were (and these folks sure are reliable) and the added chimney in auschwitz and shit like that. But in all fairness it is much more fun to see you in limbo between choosing to do some research yourself or keeping yourself knowingly ignorant. These kind of simple decisions are always very telling of someones characteristics.

>>28439318
probably yes or else he will probably be raped and turtored by the others so as a foarm of mercy i would kill him

>>28441426
I'm not being edgy, I'm telling the truth. War is war. I don't have some romanticized idea of it. You do what you have to do to survive, and if you think I'm putting my life in greater danger for some worthless enemy grunt, you're mistaken.

>>28441300
You. I like you. I knew a girl in high school who was very Muslim, and she was a delightful person. I try not to be judgemental about these things, but it's utterly shameful that so few people of faith can be as reasonable as you or she.

>>28439318
If theres evidence that they commited atroxities then yes. If not let them live but remove dominant hands index finger in hopes that they wont return to combat

>>28439318
only if I run out of zip ties

Only if I get to beat them to death with a dragon dildo

>>28439318
So first assumption is I am fighting as a civilian as there are very few chances conscription will ever get on the table again.
I am in Western Europe, enemies will be cultural enrichment material or government forces. If I ahave to get in a fight it will be to defend my life, my family or/and my home or shelter.
Let's consider the facts : I will not be able to take prisoners, detain them, feed them. That 's a logistical problem. Even if I am a part of a large (some tens of people) group the handling of prisoners will pose some tough problems.
Hostages will not be useful, government will not hesitate to sacrifice their forces and dindus/sandniggers will not be in a situation were rescuing some of their own is needed.
On a moral point of view, killing a disarmed, surrendering human disgust me, I am a Catholic and it will certainly forbids me to get a place into the Lord's Kingdom. However, the necessity of the moment, the need for violence in the conflict to perform dissuasive actions may conduct me to shoot a surrendering individual.
In case I or my family, friends are directly threatened by a faction, I know my wife will be raped, I or my relatives will be killed in an horrendous way if the situation has to be inversed, I will not hesitate to eliminate the possibility to get rid of this menace.
I am not military, I never got into a fight, I never try to kill a human being but history proves that these restraints don't last a split second (I am thinking of Balkans wars and more recently Lybia, Syria) in a violent situation.
Of course I'll do it only if I am sure to not be punished on this earth and this time, put aside the Lord's judgment.

>be me, fighting in the 2053 chinese-american war
>capture a chinese soldier about to kill a friendly POW
>capture him
>low on supplies, squad is shot to shit
>another wave of attacking soldiers are coming
>officer tells me to shoot the prisoner
>remember what some fag on /k/ said about a code of honor
>prisoner pulls the pin on a grenade he had hidden in his pants
>blows my squad to hamburger meat
>mfw

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>>28439842
next your gonna tell us some shit about being able to find dinosaurs, lordy. those thing were ATLEAST 2000 years ago

>>28439318
That's a war crime
>>28439361
That is too

my grandfather did it in Vietnam apparently a VC fired at them but he and other 3 guys maneuvered while the others suppressed the area. One of his guys was wounded, he aimed directly at the guy and he proceeded to throw his AK down and put his hands up shaking them. In a moment of rage he fire the grenade launcher directly into his chest and transformed the guy in pink mist.

And that's how he gets his disability check because he is deaf. I guess the explosion was very near

>>28439318
>Am I a barbarian?
No
>Am I a professional soldier of a western army in this scenario?
Yes

No I wouldn't: you never know what intelligence could manage to wheedle out of him if he knows anything. Also there are a certain few laws of war that should be obeyed by soldiers of any supposedly respectable and civilized country.

But fuck WWII-style partisans, reprisals against the civilians is retarded though.

>>28440892

I thought we were here to talk about our dicks?

>>28441953
Not him, but paleos look for exposed bone, then dig around it. GPR relies on difference in dialectric properties. I'm not well versed on how different (dialectrically) old bones are from soil, though so I can't make a statement on whether or not they would be picked up

>>28440632

Industrial Genocide.

>>28439318
The Laws of Land Warfare tell us that a surrender need only be accepted when it is practical to take prisoners, and when doing so will not endanger your own troops or jeopardize your tactical objective.

For example: If you're a LRRP and in enemy territory, you are not obligated to accept surrenders. If you're a flanking unit pushing forward to take an objective, and there's no one handy to hand the prisoner off too, you are not obligated to accept surrenders. If you take a fortified position by storm, and accepting surrenders would slow your critical momentum, then you are once again, not obligated to take prisoners.

Examples where you would be obligated include persons like downed pilots behind your lines, where they can be imprisoned safely and conveniently, or routed enemy troops overtaken by a pursuing force.

Rule of thumb: If it's easy, then break out the handcuffs, otherwise he's SOL.

Depends how hot the situation is.

If there weren't any surrounding threats, sure. Hell, if there's already a supply-line for POW's, sure.

But if there are still bullets flying at me, then they get wasted.

No i wouldn't.

The torture they will endure be more pain than I could inflict in killing them

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>killing anyone who surrendered

Nah, m8, I'd expect the same courtesy paid to me in a conflict as well. Even irregulars can surrender, they just get to go to CIA funcamp instead of everyone's favorite comfy UD PoW camp.

Punisher in Nam were he shoots the vc chick pic needed.

>>28439318

Already done it.

>>28439318
I would treat the surrendering enemy the same way I would want me, or one of my friends, to be treated by them if surrendering.

In an ideal situation no but its hardly an ideal situation when I'm fighting for my life.

I'd like to say I wouldn't but who knows what I'd do after living through years of watching my friends get blown to pieces and seeing homes burned and their occupants raped and shot.

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If I'd just seen him shoot Capt. Miller, fuck yeah I would.

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>>28439603

>>28439474
JIDF out strong tonight

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They only become POW's if you let them surrender

>>28439733
dubs of truth.

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>>28440456
I can barely understand this something about Pokemon and Pikachu? Do they allow that in Britbongistan?

>>28441458

wat

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The guy who fired this shot moved to the US and ended up harassed and hounded because the media spun this photo into him looking like a monster.

The guy he executed was part of a plain clothes death squad who was caught in the act.

In that situation? Where I find them amidst their victims? I'm not sure I could stop myself from pulling the trigger.

Lately I've been playing SWAT 4 with just tear gas and bean bag guns, taking every single suspect alive, and then just executing each and every one of them with a gunshot to the head.

It's really satisfying.

>>28439842
GP in this context means "ground penetrating" not "global positioning"

>>28439318
Honestly it depends on the context of the situation. My relative position to enemy and friendly positions, what is the mission, what is the supply situation and probably some other factors that just don't pop into my head atm.
If there was no reason to kill the surrendering enemy, I would take prisoners.

>>28439318
Is he surrendering because he's out of ammo? Then yes.

>>28439399
/v/ autism engaged.
This picture is from the end of the "Tiger Ace" campaign of the original company of heroes.

>>28439318
try my best not to

>>28439666
>Poles ware raping, killing and robbing ethnic Germans in those lands
Are you fucking kidding me? You honestly fell for an almost 90 year old propaganda operation? Operation Himmler, look it up.

>>28440312
following orders mayn.

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>>28439568
Fuck off faggot, I don't want them on /pol/ either.

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>>28440791

What the fuck did you say to me, little bitch?!

Sometimes....., SOMEtimes, real /k/ommandos drift through. We mostly come out at night...mostly.

> Shitty camera because I spend excess money on other things like guns and plane tickets.

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>>28441933

anyone fighting in a 2053 war is underage

caught you faggot

yes if they are left leaning at all

>>28441346
that picture made me feel really sad...

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>>28439603
I'll stick to my Vat 69, lieutenant.

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Totally depends. That's a situation by situation call. Slapping a one-size-fits-all philosophy onto something like sparing the life of another man is some dangerous thinking.

>>28439340
underrated post

>>28440335
Lol look, Ahmed is upset about his house and school getting btfo, hahahahaha

>>28440721
and even did 9mm Luger conversions on a few

>>28439318
If they where some smug count that did a lot of horrible shit but surrenders at the end knowing they get too live, ala the killers.

>>28440163
That's a big gun.

>>28439820
What happened to all his videos?

>>28439568
aww is a little twink fag triggered?

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if slav, remove from premises immediately

everyone else is cool with me

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Nope, his job is to kill guys from my country and mine is to kill guys from their country. But if he surrenders there is no reason to hurt him. He simply turns into a POW.

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>>28439318
>sparing an enemy

that sound pretty fucking heretical

If threat, kill.
Threat includes:
>possible run away and tell friends where am
>straining my resources/needs guarded/fed but I don't have supply chain
>unable to prove not a threat
>combative in any way
Unless, can prove not a threat and there are resources to deal with, is best to kill enemy.
Question is, who is enemy?

DO IT NORMAN!

Take him prisoner and retain some semblance of humanity.

>>28446606
the running thing always pissed me off. fuck if i know if hes bringing yhe rest of hisvgang

is there case law.precedent for this?

>>28439318
Not trying to be cold blooded or edgy, but unless I had tge capaity to process and imprison him, I'd shoot him.

In saving pvt Ryan that was one squad deep in enemy territory with no fast way of getting back to allied lines.

Ditto for para troopers who may not even have enough food supplies for themselves, let alone prisoners.

>>28446681
>is there case law on this

Uniformed Code of Military Justice or The Various Geneva Conventions/Liberal Hague Huffpost sounding stuff. Not case law but generally a go to thing of ethics in dealing with humans in wartime.

>>28439318
If I smelled even the slightest hint of trickery its not worth the risk my own side comes first.

If the enemy was unusually cruel and from an alien culture its not worth the risk.

So insurgents known to fake it then explode or jihadis, yes I would unless I was sure we had the time and security.

But if it was an annexation of canada or some shit against a culturally similar enemy who would probally follow the rules no.

>>28439318
honestly.


it depends

>>28446705
so basically the type of law that allows arabs to suicide bomb and rape children, but we have to allow their radical.imams to preach?

no thanks. china is already using illegal weapons on the battlefield. were getting tired of treating murderers like children

>>28440163
Is that a battle comp on the end of his barrel.

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.>>28439318

Only if they're Russian, Russian puppets or mudslime.

>>28446781
Your post is too real.

>>28439510
>start the war

Britain and France are the ones who technically declared war.

>>28441253
The day when nerd wargamers stop using the word "decimation" when defeating an enemy or seeing a team lose;instead of simply killing every tenth man of a surrendering army unit to fold into your own forces.

>>28439525
Literally the only thing that happened in Poland 1939-1945
>first mass executions started on September 4th, four days after the invasion

>>28439759
>franklin roosevelt telegram to hitler
>round up da joos in camps and give us the locations, we'll bomb them :-)
>k

>>28441346
What really gets me about this picture is it seems to be russian made. So in the context, it is brutally heartfelt.

Is there more? And I agree with you sentiments on POWs.

>>28441458
Well, go on.

>>28447004
>violate a sovereign country
>again
>expect nothing to happen

>>28439666
I will rape you, you fucking germ.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov–Ribbentrop_Pact

>>28439318

I'm not even military but I guess if I managed to keep a "cool head" in combat, a surrendering professional soldier is just like me, just a professional doing his job, in which case I most likely take him with me captured. I'd try to treat him as best as possible, as I'd like to be treated if I where him.


If he's militia or some jihadi john I'd have second thoughts about it, because in the end he's a nobody that willingly joined combat just to kill me for some dumbshit reason. It's not his job to kill me, unlike mine, that is.

So I guess militia faggots deserve to be killed. Why would I have second thoughts about killing someone that wants to kill me?

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Depends case by case.

In middle of shit hit the fan, no.

Total enemy rout. If I wasn't angry because of casualties on my side.

I am not naive enough to think that my moral compass will always point true north.

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>>28439399
No doubt some of the other respondents have Jewish relatives, so here goes

Oy vey, my great uncle in law died in one of those camps, goy! Don't you remember the burning down of the Berlin Bagel factory in 1942? Salmon and pretzels, it was the biggest shoah of our time! He couldn't even pass on his vouchers before he was taken.

would I get in trouble?

Yes
>Tie him up

No
>Dwarf Fortess style brutality

How was the battle fought. How did they surrender?

No - regular or irregular, unless i would have a reasonable doubt (at the time of threat "reasonable" is a very subjective, broad and vague term) that the person will willfully pose a threat to my comrades and/or myself.
This is of course only a reflection of my views on morality - i cannot predict how drastic circumstances such as combat will affect my actions.

>>28439733
Pretty much. If there's a chance of actually being able to accept his surrender and not die or have your unit compromised, yes.

If you're in a firefight and people will die if you accept it, cap him and move on. Drink to forget it if you need to, but most times it's you or them.

>>28439854
>>28439873
underground detection relies on anomaly detection. large cavities (space), metallic objects, etc.

75 year old biological material, not so much.

>>28439318
Not unless they committed war crimes.

If they're known for being brutal slaughterers, yes, definitely.

If not, fuck it. Those guys have a mother at home who'd mourn their death just like mine would. If they try any lollygagging or play foul in any conceivable way, it's the end of the line for them.

Then again, my reserve unit is a field hospital, so chances are rather low even if Dirtslavistan decides that it's day of the jackboot.

>>28443559
>not fighting even at the age of sixty

>>28446244
Even gooks and mussulmen?

ITT: internet tough guys

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Daily Reminder that national socialism of unity and community is far superior to our system of greed and lust for wealth.

We are the bad guys....we backed the wrong side of history...

>>28439318
It really depends on a couple things

>Who's does the enemy* belong to
>Is he/she worth saving
>How much will it cost to keep him/her alive
>What will higher-ups think

>>28449543
+15 yuan

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>>28449543
Taking away the chance of success and making everybody equally fucked. 10/10 best system would cuck over anybody to be lazy at the cost of others.

>>28449682
What in fuck you think you doing? Pay is only 0.5 yuan per post!

Would you place drop weapons on a civilian you killed?

If I am fighting an enemy that takes prisoners and doesn't torture or execute them, I'll let them live in the interest of diplomacy and basic decency.

If they treat the prisoners they have taken poorly, or kill them, they'll get the same treatment.

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>>28439318

>Would you kill a surrendering enemy?

Would you like to get shot yourself by some little snot-nose 20-year-old for no reason?

This can happen when soldiers are angry, for example, if you just killed 10 of his buddies moments before.

But for no reason? Absolutely not. And just so you know, they will put you in jail and/or execute you if you make your own laws in any conflict.

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>>28439318
No.

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>>28449688

We stole the national socialists ideas and inventions. The capitalists and the communists both stole as much from the national socialists as we could after the war.

Konrad Zuse invented the computer 1941

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konrad_Zuse

Jet plane was invented in 1939 by Heinkel Flugzeugwerke

The first manned rocket flight in 1945 by pilot Lothar Sieber

Stealth technolgy was invented by the Horten brothers during the Reich

Audio technology using magnetic tape was a Third Reich invention. Copying German tape recorders was how the famous American corporation Ampex got its start. Magnetic tape was also essential later for the video tape recorder. Allies hadn't a clue how the Axis was transmitting speeches and programs hours apart to different locations and having them sound "live." It was top of the list of technologies to capture as the war concluded.

Management systems for keeping massive and complex development programs on track was another "invention" transferred to the US, along with its scientists and project managers. These systems allowed the Germans to have developments underway in numerous categories and perform them remarkably well.

Missile technology: Ground-to-ground, air-to-air, air-to-ground, ground-to-air, ship-to-ship, etc., using wire guidance, TV guidance, IR guidance (everything but laser quidance). Most of these missiles were not at the highest form of development, but their work launched and made a bundle of money later on for corporations like Boeing, Raytheon, Hughes Aircraft, North American Aviation (Rocketdyne Div.), etc. All of these companies had their German "Chief Scientist" heading up research and development operations.

The promising IR technologies were mostly all developed during the Third Reich. They had "night vision" devices while the Allies were still wondering if such things were possible.

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>>28449835

Modern sewer treatment facilities are all derived from Third Reich technology. You've probably seen them with their settling ponds and huge skimmers.

Application of geophones for seismic wave detection was used for locating artillary.

The "rail gun" was another significant invention, which the US and SU copied. This weapon employes a series of ring magnets to propell a rail mounted projectile. The significant feature of this "gun" is that it can accelerate the projectile at a speed nearing infinity -- at least in theory. Conventional explosives are limited by their individual, finite rates of expansion and hence constrained in how fast they can make a projectile move.


The intial "invention" of the Third Reich that made everything possible was the breaking away from the international banking system, which made its money on debt finance; i.e., usury. This act was probably the most important event which caused WWII to later occur. In the Thirties the German economy was booming and all sorts of new humane benefits were granted to workers. Elsewhere, deep economic depression was underway, and Roosevelt, for instance, really couldn't get things to moving until we went into a war economy mode.

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You cannot have national socialism without rounding people up and killing them, because those who are obsessed with greed, hoarding wealth and power and abusing it will never do what is best for our species and our nation.

They will always have to be killed because they will drop gas on your fucking house if you try and benefit our species and our nation before you benefit their insatiable desire to abuse their power and live as kings ruling over peasant slaves and subjects.

It is our human nature to be greedy and lust for wealth and to hoard it.

But National Socialism elevates us out of such a barbaric greedy animal system of shekel lustfulness.

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>>28449835
>Konrad Zuse invented the computer 1941
And what. Do you think he shared his research with the allies who built the Colossus (and actually used it for a task of supreme importance in the war, code breaking)? What did the Nazis use his computers for? Oh right they failed to notice or exploit it. Typical.

Frank Whittle independently invented the turbojet engine.

There is no proof that Horten brothers were aiming for stealth shaping. The methods for calculating returns for different surfaces didn't even exist, let alone the computers.

>Management systems
Axis war time economy and R&D is famed for being a cluster fuck. US wartime management was way better. They developed and fielded tons of technologies with no waste to wunderwaffe hubris.

Yes they had some technologies that had no allied analogues. But the converse holds true also, and many of the technologies allies had were high impact.

Grunts are so easy to distinguish in threads like this.

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>>28449902

Enjoy your international banking system Mr. Goldsteinburgowitz.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o64Fz-KW1Dk

SWIPE SWIPE SWIPE!

ITT faggots who've never served say they'd be war criminals

>>>/pol/

>>28449965
Geh zurück nach pol

>>28439399
>code of honor
>posts nazis on the eastern front

Hans, I...

>>28446681
If they are running away, they clearly aren't surrendering.

Shoot to kill. Achmed's gang of Mohammed, Muhammed, Mohamed, Muhammad, Muhamad, Mohamad, and Sayeed ain't gon hear about this.

>>28440235
You know, this brings up an interesting thought. Infantrymen who carried flamethrowers were pretty much universally despised, sometimes even by their own comrades, for using a horrible, inhumane, yet effective tool for dispatching dug in troops, to the point where anyone caught with a flamethrower would often just be executed on the spot despite the consequences of anyone else that was captured.

I wonder if a drone base does get overrun eventually, would the same treatment happen to drone operators? Ideas on honor or not, some people are bound to be pissed as hell after suffering drone attacks repeatedly, and I wouldn't doubt it'd leave some nerdy looking fellows flayed on a stake by vengeful ground forces in the thick of it.

>>28448563
It's funny because stormniggers do exactly what's in that pic

I don't understand /pol/ sometimes
>THE HOLOCAUST NEVER HAPPENED IT WAS ALL JEWISH LIES
>HITLER WAS GREAT FOR KILLING JEWS THO

I have. fuck the Taliban. :^)

>>28450095

drone base overrun? yeah... ok

>>28442004
no its not irregulars or soldiers that wear uniforms of their enemys are not protected by the geneva convetion

>>28439399
>wehrmacht in charge of not killing prisoners/civilians
o I am laffin

Sure, many of them weren't associated with the SS or Nazi party, but plenty of them did some pretty fucked up shit.

>>28439318
Good question. It would depend on the situation.
Am I being besieged, is this a huge battle like Stalingrad, have I already captured a few enemies? Then yes.

Am I behind enemy lines, do I need intel, etc, then no.

>>28439318
yes if letting him live could possibly disadvantage me.
no if not.

Technically, I did

felt bad but I couldn't control myself

>>28439318
no becauae I dont have that kind of authority.

you only kill in defense or yourself and others

>>28439318
only if knew they had tortured someone or I saw them kill/rape a child or women. I'd even kill my own fellow men if I saw them rape a women or child.

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>>28440456

>>28440101
Cant wait for that movie to come out.

>>28439318
Ask him who his waifu is first.
Can't kill a man in cold blood if we have the same waifu.

>>28439318
Only if they're Muslim.

Am I an executioner charged with ending him after a tribunal?

No? Then no.

>>28439318
Follow the Geneva convention.

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>>28439356
this so fucking much

If I could resurrect anyone it be Gustavus Adolphus to remove kebab

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>>28439407
so ebil!!! XXXD

>>28453615
>Lord Ronald du McDonalds

If its some asshole like literally anyone who was in the SS then sure. Other then that then no its not worth the trouble.

Depends what he was fighting for, I would behead an Islamic insurgent

>>28453648
Cracks me up how many people think that they were some evil oppressive regime. France LOVED them. The majority of French nationals hated partisans.

There was a story about how a German Captain gave one of his men 10 weeks of extra physical training for not offering to help a French woman with her groceries.

People are so fucking stupid and they just eat up whatever their scholastic schoolbook told them.

>>28453709
Fucking day/k/are. You think SS were bad guys because they were the most elite modern warriors.

They're only bad guys because they fucking wrecked our forces.

>>28439318
Thread theme song:
Warriors of the SS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5fbmEy1GL4

>>28453854
>US consistently kills more men than they lose while advancing across Europe against heavily entrenched forces
>the people the US raped are somehow better than them

Call der Fuhrer, I don't give a fuck.

>>28453844
They dont teach that side of the story in schools. We only hear about how they killed the jews and turned them into soap. The Allies put a lot of effort in after the war to make sure the Germans where thought of as evil.

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>>28439399

>"Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honour matters. The silence is your answer."

>>28453876
>what is monte cassino
I'll tell you. It's when our troops were forced to spearhead an attack up a fucking mountain into the most heavily fortified positions.

And you say we're the good guys?

What about D-Day? How the fuck can you call us good guys when they sent wave after wave of American troops to go die on the beaches just so it looks valorous in the papers. Fuck off.

Only if not doing so put me at increased risk of dying for whatever reason. I wouldn't kill for fun (which is why I don't particularly want to join the military) but if I even thought for a second he'd Allah ackbar me or if I was told I had to kill him I guess I would.

>>28453957
Very effective propaganda. Still working to this day despite a ton of evidence.

>>28439510
>get drafted and forced to kill people for your country
>get blamed for fighting in a war when you didn't have a choice in the matter
I bet you're ok with people spitting on Vietnam vets.

>>28453844
>France LOVED them

While we shouldnt overestimate what the partisans were and did, lets not spout stuff like France loved them.

They were an occupied country run by a puppet government. People were too tired and worn out to care but only a tiny bunch of people supported Vichy France and the Fascist cause.

ITT: Wehraboo wankfest

>>28450418
Everyone did you dumb fucking donkey, how about we put on trial the wankers who fire bombed Dresden ?

>>28453989
Fighting against a sentient machine is not the same as fucking fighting another being with feelings and understanding the concept of honor

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