Reloading setups

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>>28420755

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>>28420755
So many goodies

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>>28420755
Getting it done

>>28420755
Nothing really gun related most of the day, went to eat breakfast this morning, then lounged for a while watching a movie, got some chores done around the house after that, then enjoyed a nice bourbon.

Also, since Im not poor, I can buy new ammo and not worry about tearing my gun(s) up because I fucked up on reloading. But its a nice skill/tool setup to have if you shoot a lot.

All the Dillion presses are pretty much the same right? Are all those extras they offer worth it?

>>28420831
If you decide to go with the XL650 over the 550B, get the casefeeder. It makes the biggest difference in speed compared to the 550B and is what makes the XL650 worth it.

>>28420831
Get the 650 not the 1080.

My set up is in a box atm.


Building a new bench sometime this month.

>>28420755
I don't see a tumbler in there. Are you reloading dirty brass, Anon?

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>>28421032
>implying you can resize dirty ass brass without fucking up something eventually
Please

>>28420806
>shooting less than 2k rounds per month
Stay pleb you faggot

>>28420765
now This is a good use of keymod
muh 308: 150gr fmj-bt hornadys over 45gr w748. i like imr4895 but doesnt meeter well in a throw. right around 2700fps at sealevel

5.56: 26.6gr TAC pushing 55gr fmj-bt with. 3150ish fps from 20''

>>28421032
See
>>28420784

>>28421119
Post your setup and chrono or gtfo

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>>28420755
Done

>>28421150
Didn't notice it, never seen a tumbler that large or in that set up.

>>28421098
I know damn well you don't reload dirty brass, why do you think I was worried when I didn't notice a tumbler?

>>28421179
wheres your shit poser? you the keymod defense squad?

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My neighbor bought a bunch of 124gr hornady projectiles a few years ago thinking they were loaded rounds. He gave them to me because he doesn't have a 9mm anymore. I usually load 124gr xtreme round nose so I assume load data should be pretty identical and maybe a little better accuracy with the thicker jacket...

>>28421221
It's a rock tumbler. Works much much better than agitators. It's pricey but lasts fuggin forever. And it's large cause I shoot a lot. Around 28k rounds last year

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>>28421230
I'm op you no funs faggot

>>28421232
Nice anon. What's your standard load look like?

>>28421378
Do you deprime before tumbling? I bought the harbor freight rock tumbler and some SS pins that work great for deprimed rifle brass. All my pistol brass just gets walnut tumbled and thrown into the progressive press hopper because I don't want to deprime that much stuff...

>>28421386
>op
>calling anyone else a fag
babies first thread

>>28421402
4.8gr with sr7625 124gr xtreme rn cci spp loaded kind of long but I don't remember off the top of my head hits around 1050 out of my m&p9. Little smoky but pretty soft shooting and accurate but the brass just dribbles out.
6.0gr power pistol with the same everything else is my replacement I'm looking at when I run out of 7625. It's quite a bit more stout hitting right around 1200fps. I've also got tightgroup, bullseye and wsf but I don't really use those often. Wsf is ok for 40 but you get a lot of unburnt junk...

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>>28421411
I deprime everything first. Using that single lee press pictured. Then into the tumbler with stainless steel pins to clean the flash holes. They are an endlessly resuably medium and the best I have used. I have tried everything you have heard of and they are by far the best. A little soap a little lemi shine. The brass comes out looking better than factory with flash holes cleaned and polished

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>>28421411

I bought a maverick 88 and some 556, 300blk, 9mm, magpul SL stock and 00buck.

>>28421454
>be you
>be this nofuns
>get called out
>dat shit tier damage control
>dat sweet sweet ass maddery
How's your second day on 4chan going there sport?
>back to Reddit your worthless subhuman piss

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>>28421499
Power pistol is my go to
>mp masterace

Best tumbelr i ever saw...


A lowes concrete mixer, with the vains removed.

Guy had three of them.

One was a wet set up with pins.

One was for moly coat

And one was walnut.

Genius and he could do 120lbs at a yime no problem

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It's pretty basic, step dad just finished the bench and it's a huge improvement over the old school desk I was using. Still haven't installed the second press yet. I mainly load for friends and family but I'm transitioning back into making loads for myself again.

But! To stay on topic I didn't do anything related except browse.

To get started I need what
A press
Dies
A tumbler/medium
Bullets brass primers powder
A table to set everything up.
What other stuff do I need, a scale would probably be handy, a lot of guys have calipers. Anything else really?

>>28421818
You don't really need a tumbler unless you're doing large quantities. I used to just clean by hand when I started because I was only loading 25 at a time.

But definitely a press, dies, some way to measure powder, funnels, calipers, some sturdy flat surface, case lube, primer seater and components would be bare minimum.

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>2016
>reloading
>while not listening to Big Iron by Marty Robbins
it's like you fuckers don't even FONV.

>>28421795
Nice setup! Very tidy. How do you clean your brass?

>>28421818
You must have a highly accurate scale. You must have calipers. You should have OAL go/no go's

>>28420755

I spent the whole day putting together a lego mini cooper, and I must say I'm quite proud of my work

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My poorfag reloading/cleaning bench.

Is 9x18/9mm Makarov good for reloading? Also looking into low loads of .32 ACP to play with an Ortgies

>>28421967
what is a decent inexpensive scale that you would recommend?

>>28420755
I'm in Canada what's a good reloading bench to get if I want to reload for price saving and mass bullet reloading?

This might sound dumb but....
If i was to buy a lee clasic turret press, could i use the same dies i use on my single stage?

>>28421996
None.
Crappy tire has benches but they are expensive for what you get. Lot of people glue thick plywood to the top to make them more sturdy.
Your best option is to build your own.

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>>28421996
I just used these

>>28422009
Yup.

>>28422009
Yep.
Pretty much everyone has standardized on a couple sizes. Most equipment is setup for 7/8"-14tpi.

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>>28421989
Hornady. $40

>>28421032
For the poorfag, iguana bedding is walnut shells, and a concrete mixer works damn well.

>>28422020
Should mention I set them up side by side and screwed down a piece of inch and a half plywood

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>>28422043
I got mine on black Friday, $20 bitches!

>>28422009
They are standardized

>>28422043
does it measure in grains or will i have to do the conversions myself?

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here's my temp setup.

>>28422088
it's a scale made by hornady, wtf do you think?

maybe you shouldnt get into reloading...

>>28422088
It does grains. Google is your friend you bitch

>>28422088
You are far too stupid to be trusted with reloading.

>>28422118
>>28422122
>>28422135
wew, lads. simple question. id easily spend an extra few bucks if the answer was no.

>>28422153
Skip the cheap electronic scales. Rebranded crap for the most part.
In the under $100 range the balance beam is still the best option.

>>28422153
The mode button. Press it until the unit of measurement is gr.
Make sure you calibrate the scale first.
Turn it on. Wait 30 seconds. Press and hold mode, itll say calibrate, take your finger off and place the weight on yhe scale, it'll say PASS, press mode again and your ready to weigh.

>>28422230
I guess its important to add that you should place the powder tray on the scale when your done calibrating, press tare. Itll zero the scale, so your only weighing the powder, not the powder and the tray.

>>28422227
I also don't like electronic scales... but then again I load for accuracy. throw just under and trickle the rest on the beam.. I'm sure some of those higher end electronic scale dispenser combos work very well... but from a simplicity and reliability standpoint... analog is king.

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>>28421980
Where do you get the nerve calling yourself a poorfag?

>>28422281
Agreed.

How fucked are those plastic scoops you get in the die sets? I find load data fir autocomp, says 6- 6.6gr, the scoop is 13 fucking grains. I know not all powders are the same, but thats fucked.

>>28422310
Drop that powder baffle right to the bottom. While you're at it polish the funnel and graphite or wax the cylinder.
Drops the deviation quite a bit and makes it easier to be consistent.

>>28422227
>>28422281
im not trying to load match rounds or anything. will that hornady work well enough for a beginner or would you still recommend analog?

>>28422281
Can you type like a non-autist, please?
Trusting your eyes and a physical mechanism over objective mathematival programming is dumb.

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>>28422310
Clean your room up, holy fuck, i bet you have spent primers all over the place.

>>28422318
Scoops are good for general use. I have a set for plinking and range loading. The accuracy you get is entirely dependent on technique and takes a bit of practice.

>>28422340
Nothing measures the physical like a physical measurement. Cant be thrown off by temperature either.

>>28422339
Measures to .2 grain and even then not too reliable.
Even the cheap Lee and Lyman beam scales are better than it. Don't waste money on cheap digital scales. Even the expensive ones are a case of diminishing returns.

>>28422356
Good electronic scales can measure down to your breath affecting the reading. If you really think an electronic scale is inaccurate you're a luddite

>>28422382
Holy fuck, I've never even seen that word before. Good for you.

Im just saying, if you want to measure something, using a counter balance is the way to go. Im not against technology, id like to use ancient architecture as an example.

>>28422340
Says the religious faggot. Go worship your god, you imbecile.

I trust my eyes and an incredibly simple physical mechanism (with few moving parts to break or wear out) over electronics and sensors that are more prone to lying/errors and/or failing.

Being able to repeat the same weight over and over again is mostly what I care about. I don't need to know the exact weight of something. I need to know that charge after charge is as close to identical as the previous. With an analog scale you get that without question. It's a stupid simple and perfectly accurate technology that's been used for thousands of years.

2/10 troll. Got a longer response than you deserved.

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my simple set up

>>28420755
i have 40lbs of .225 and 5.56 brass, unprocessed.
would anyone like to buy some at $4/lb?

>>28422414
Use both an electronic scale and physical scale to check your charges. I do so every 5 or 10. I'm pretty anal about checking my powder charge even though I'm loading plinking ammo

>>28422416
>Says the religious faggot. Go worship your god, you imbecile.
What the fuck are you on about now?

>>28422441
*.223

>>28422443
Meh, seems tedious, maybe if im loading hot self defence rounds.

>>28422445
You are so conflicted, you don't even know what you're talking about. You're a special kind of stupid that can't read between the lines, and you call me autistic. How quaint.

>>28422333
Thanks for the tips. Already graphited the fuck out of the powder throw, but haven't had time to actually use it yet.
I will definitely move the baffle. It didn't come with instructions, and google didn't offer any advice.
It was my most recent purchase right before leaving town for a few months. Will try it out possibly next weekend.

>>28422344
Doubtful there's any primers on the ground there. My wife had her dad move all my project stuff to that corner of our spare bedroom while I was away.
I'll be getting a garage shortly, so organizing that mess will happen when I move it all out.

Protip: If you think reloading in your kitchen sounds fun, don't get married.

>>28422470
Nice. Simple and efficient. Once you start shooting more you will want a multi stage

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>>28422552

>start shooting more

I use reloaded ammo to supplement my shooting diet and beef up stash with quality stuff. I only load "precision" 223, 308 as well as 10mm, because of reasons.

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>>28422593
God damnit i want a 10mm.

>>28422593
You don't shoot very much anon. It's ok. 89% of /k/ is nonfuns. The rest of you are fucking plebs.

>>28421984
It's great for reloading, super cheap and it's fun to make your own low powered plinking rounds and high powered defense loads. not sure about .32 but that should be fun too

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My Lyman T-Mag II with Lee .223 dies.

Nice rig to load on.

I can't decide whether I want to trim all the cases I have to prep or shoot myself in the dick.


>>28422434
>that fucking /k/oncrete

>>28422680
How do you clean brass? And wtf no scale?

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>>28422737
Why do you need to trim? Are you on your third or fourth load with same brass? Pic related. Takes less than 10 seconds

>>28422748
You can see his tumbler behind the press.
Given the items on view I would assume he got one of the Lyman kits. They all come with a scale.

>>28422652
Nice to hear. Really looking to get full on into lead casting and reloading so 9x18 seems great for plinking with and saving the good stuff for EDCC.
I'm a tad nervous about blasting full grain .32 through a hundred year-old Ortgies so some low-charge cheap plinking for that would be great too

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>>28422622


Get it. Its worth every penny. Get a G20C and build yourself a tri-caliber SHTF pistol.

>>28420755

I phoned my friend and old boss at the gun shop I used to work and told him to set the stainless, synthetic stock mini 30 in the back for me and I'll up it Friday. I've been eyeing it up for a while now.

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>>28422764
Autism, really. And because my cases are a mix of once fired all the way up to 4 or 5 times fired, I just pick them out of an old ice-cream tum, they're not separated. So I don't know which need trimming until I try.

Also, .303 brass tends to flow a bit more than some other rounds. Even good brass in a rifle with a good chamber.

>>28422796
Don't listen to him, unless you don't care how your ammo performs trimming is pretty important.
Do you use a drill adapter or a lathe trimmer?

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>>28422748

Scale is out of shot. I have a Lyman digital and check every 5th with my old balance beam.

Tumbler is in background. Use normal tumbler medium and put a cap of Nu-finish car polish in with the brass. Let it run for Let it run for a couple of hours. All super shiny when done.

Target is the result. From my Ruger Hawkeye Predator at 100. Handloads are always more accurate than factory.

>>28422796
can you explain what goes into trimming brass, I get that after a few times the case expands. Do you just take a caliper, measure every piece and file it down to the right length? That seems mind numbingly boring

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Alright, lee single stage, perfect powder measure, hand priming tool. Hornady gs 1500 scale, and digital calipers. Cheep lyman tumbler.

Set up in my garage, its 27°F. Thinking about moving to my computer desk inside, using c-clamps. That tv is just sitting there btw. I get bored as fuck.

>>28422888
shoot tv. post results.

>>28422767

Correct. Package deal. Worth the spend.

>>28422852
pretty much that. you have a rotary file that either attaches to a drill or a lathe, with an adjustable spacer that feeds into the brass, and you just grind it down until the space bottoms out and then you deburr it

It's pretty boring, but no moreso than reloading anything else, throw some music on and just go for it. It's not like throwing charges where you can actually fuck up

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>>28422909
Nah, thinking about using it for a computer monitor. There isnt anything wrong with it, i just upgraded.

>>28422925
shoot tv repeatedly. post results, repeatedly.

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>>28422940

>>28422821
Yeah, I make sure even my plinking ammo is pretty uniform and in spec. I just have a shitty Lee trimmer that I put in a drill. I would trim to the length specified in my manuals but this leaves me pretty close in both calibers I reload and it's never given me a problem with COAL.

>>28422925
>Family Shit

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Excuse sideways pic.

Almost everything but the press gets put away after I'm done, just hauled it out for this pic.

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>>28423000
Chqued.

Its filler material, im browsing /k/, drinking beer, and doing dry fire drills. American dad is a good show though. Family guy is, meh..

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>>28423041
Dat powder selection.

>>28420755
I got the RCBS Rock Chucker Supreme for Christmas, and there are a bunch of different types of dies for the press. What kind of dies should I be getting?

On another note, where is the best place to get brass, primers, bullets online?

>>28423051

It's horrible...?

>>28423074
I only use autocomp. Its all ive ever used. Im new. I reload .45auto. Thats it. But ive gone through 1,500 rounds, does that give me any credibility?

>>28423091
You seem short, and determined.

>>28423098
Use Titegroup for best groups.
trufax, senpai

>>28423122
Thanks for the tip! Im working on trigger pull, but my groups are about 2-3" using 6gr of autocomp, could use improvement.

>>28423051

Varget is my general go-to. Mainly load 308 and 223. I worked at a gun store about 6 months ago and the only shit making it up at that time was imr/hodgdon.

>>28423072
Brass depends on what you wanna reload and what for. If volume reloading, sell the rock chucker and get a progressive. Buy once fired online.

If precision, figure where you want off on the price train and go from there.

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Anyone else think this stuff smells amazingly good?

If Vihtavuori made deodorant I would use it every day.

>>28423072
Everglades ammo. The reviews arent fake. Its a great fucking site to buy from.

>>28422821
Kill yourself you fucking faggot. I trim. See pic related you beyond retard.

>>28422796
Your pic shows no way to trim.

>>28423072
Primers ship with a $28.50 hazmat fee. Id look for someplace that sells them locally, powder too. Even if its 30 miles away. Fuck that hazmat fee.

>>28421872
that song is about some dude with a huge iron cockring that killed 19 guys but the twentieth could match him
BIG IRON ON HIS DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICK

>>28422848
>Handloads are always more accurate than factory.
Truth. Stuck too anon

>>28423230
I do all my case prep in my garage, since it's quite messy. Also I've got a sliver of brass in between my toe once, it was really shit.

>>28422852
No. You buy what op clearly posted and it adjusts for whatever brass length you need.Triming on ANY caliber brass that hasn't been shot AT LEAST twice if fucking useless and wasteful. You will ruin more than you ever save. And if you arnt checking total overall length anyways on finished casings you should kill yourself.

>>28422888
Getting results anon. Get a better job and shoot more

>>28422918
Wanna know how I know you don't know shit?

>>28423041
>namefagging
>4chan
Die in a car fire you faggot fuck

>>28423072
Dies are entirely on what you shoot.
Brass you can find for free at local shooting spots, ranges
Primers should be purchased locally as with powders do to the crazy shipping fees and restriction.
Bullets should be purchased bulk at local gun shows. You can google all these things and find deals but my suggestions are from 30+ years of finding the best prices

>>28423272
I got comfortable..

>>28423297
Hard to have conversations with people if you don't know who you are talking too sometimes bud.

But thanks for the insightful contribution to the thread. I'm assuming this is your first post in this thread?

So I priced it out, the 650 with a case feed, and one set of dies is just about 950 before tax.
I'm planning on reloading .308 and possibly 9mn. Does anyone know roughly how much it would cost me per round for reloads, even if you tell me how much it costs you I'd appreciate it. I'm sure I'd break even eventually but fuck that seems like a lot of cash and if I wanted dies for 9mm I'd be like an extra 60 or so

>>28422310
>Humboldt

My nigga. My grandfather lives on this big ass hill over in fortuna.

>>28423366

If you just reload to save money you're doing it for the wrong reasons. The biggest upside to rolling your own is getting a consistent ammo.

>>28423366
Find the powder you wana use.
Find out the gr in load data info.
7000 gr in a pound. Divide the weight of the charge in gr by 7k. Thats the powder cost per round.

Find boxer primed cases. Divide the cost of the cases by how many cases, thats your cost per round for cases.

Find the gr projectiles you want, divide the cost by quantity.

Primers are dictated by the cases, divide cost by quantity.

You can do this on your own, without spending a cent.

>>28423253
You wanna know how I know you are full of shit?

>>28423360
Back to Reddit you worthless subhuman

>>28423366
Do some research you bitch. 4chan isn't here to spoonfeed your faggot ass

>>28423527
Connecting with others is actually a very human trait. You should try it sometime.

>>28420755
Damn catalog I thought that was drugs. I did drugs today.

>>28421720
How the fuck does a man even acquire that much sweet brass

>>28422382
>using the word luddite incorrectly

Just fucking die

>>28423578
Run a range. I scored about 260 pieces of federal 308 because I showed up about after 15 minutes after the local rcmp did their recertification. The guy who runs the range has buckets full of brass from people who don't care.

>>28423380

This guy gets it.

Also it is most satisfying working up a new load and seeing how it performs.

I also like the flexibility of different types and weight of projectiles. Tailor made ammo for plinking, hunting or target shooting.

>>28422443

Safe practice bro. It can be a pain in the ass, but I feel safer doing this myself.

Never forget that you are assembling an explosive that will go off near your face. (rifle ammo that is.)

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is reloading rifle brass really THAT much harder than pistol brass? lube and primer crimp + full resizing the only added parts?

best place to bulk buy 77 gr, 75gr HPBT?

>>28424039

https://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=100001721&dir=278|281|1079|1160|1529

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>>28424052
>4 fucking thousand match rounds

thanks anon, new dye ETA 2 days

>>28421955
Tumbler is under the bucket. Cut a small hole in the edge of the bucket to run the cord and it keeps it pretty quiet while I work.

>>28424077

NP mayne. I want to get into reloading, but I don't see a point in reloading 55 grain for 5.56/.223 if I can get it for $.33 a round average. Once you get into the 62+ range with reloading, and avoiding that steel core shit, is where you start seeing good things.


Also because feeding battle rifles is...interesting, and while it will probably be about the same price to reload for them a shit load, the consistency will help.

>>28422043
I hate this thing, slow as fuck and only reads in .2 grain increments half the time. I still use my 5-0-5.

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>>28424093
is there a difference in 5.56 brass and .223? seems like its just different primer crimps

>Having that much smokeless powder in close proximity and out in the open

At the very least, build a kind of oversize spice rack out of sheet rock with dividers between each canister.

>>28424113

The 5.56 has thicker walls. Could affect case pressures, but as long as you are sensible with your volumes you will be okay.

The varying case volumes would affect accuracy.

However if you just want to sling heavy bullets with good, not amazing, accuracy out of your AR a lot, you'll be fine.

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>>28424121
is there some way to tell what kind of brass you have? i have a variety of different casings from different manufacturers

>>28424154

Read the headstamps. Should give you a good idea of what company made what brass.

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>>28424177
ty based anon

>>28421607

Power pistol is my "go-to" powder for 9x19, and 10mm auto handsdown

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>>28423519
Yeah, go on, it will amuse me.

>>28424039
I don't even lube my cases because I necksize only and the brass is clean. Dirty brass binds in my dies more, clean brass is like butter.

>>28421198
>keeping multiple types of powder on the bench top

it's like you want a kaboom

seriously though, you're asking for trouble. Put that shit away somewhere else.

>>28421533
>soap

I learned the hard way that armorall wash and wax is superior for wet tumbling.

>wet tumbled batches upon batches of brass with lemishine and dawn
>look purdy and shiny when done
>load some and set aside the rest for future reloading
>loaded and stored brass was all dull and tarnished all to hell several months later

>>28424620
I've gone to this too... A hit of the futuro cheap shit Mexican koolaid looking cleanser and a shot of car wash soap cleans really well and keeps shiny longer. I usually dry tumble finished rounds in walnut with a little car wax which helps too.