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>>28349403
Pros: Its slightly lighter
Cons: Everything else

>>28349403
>alu
+lighter
-weaker

>steel
+more authentic
+stronger
-heavier

>>28349433
>>28349438
Figured that much. If you're not trying to put hot loads through it, will the service life be comparable?

>>28349403
Aluminum is lighter and requires less corrosion protection. Steel is better in all other aspects.

Not enought differences to avoid an aluminium frame.

>>28349438
More than just weaker for aluminum. They throw the balance off (not really a huge deal, but its still noticeable), you can't use standard magazines (with steel followers) unless you have a steel insert soldered into the feed ramp, and the felt recoil is significantly more than that of a steel frame (or even an aluminum frame 220 in .45.
I'd only consider an aluminum frame 1911 if it was strictly for carry, and even then I'd be hard pressed to choose it over steel.

>>28349459
Al wears much faster. Can't take as much of a beating either.

Whats the "best" IWB holster for a G19?

>>28349459
Assuming you use the right springs and use a shock buff or something similar (I think springco makes a good two-piece buffer guide rod) it shouldn't make that much of a difference. The link or barrel will go before the frame. Also depends strongly on the make of the gun. I know of aluminum Kimbers (inb4 I get meme'd at) with thousands of rounds of .45 Super through them that held up better than steel Rugers.

>>28349403
My main deal with the 1911 is that steel feels much more balanced as the mag is emptied.

>>28349507
I personally like the Bladetech nano.
It really comes to personal preference though, and the blade tech isn't too expensive and it hides the gun well.
I have one for my G32 and I love it.

>>28349538
Sorry, I should have mentioned I was looking for a hybrid holster.

>>28349522
What Rugers are steel framed? They do a 1911 now?

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is 500 usd a good price for a used gp 100 with lett grips?

Going innawoods soon in what'll be 5-15 degrees.

Recommend me a balaclava for ultimate clankage while keeping my head warm.

>>28350295
>5-15
You don't need a balaclava you fucking pussy

>>28350329
5 to -15

my bad

>>28350295
use a buff for your neck and a merino wool toque for your noggin. this advice comes from a certified canadian btw

>>28349708
They were stainless ruger SR1911's.

what's a good resource - book, videos, etc - on turn-of-the-century automatic pistols and manufacturers? Specifically interested on everything from the Borchardt up to about WWII

I'm looking into buying an 870 for trap/skeet, 26" v 28" barrel what is the difference?

>>28350847
one's about two inches shorter than the other

Where can I find a good IWB holster for a Model 19 S&W 4" barrel?

>>28350854
obviously

>>28349708
They do a pretty damn decent 1911 for the price. As always, ignore the price on their website and shop around.

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What is a good budget 308 round for practicing with a tikka t3? I work at an Academy sports right now and I can't pass up getting one for $500 while I still can. I don't really have anywhere to shoot beyond 200yds right now, though after I've finished school I plan on moving out to Wyoming/Utan/Idaho/Arizona, somewhere long distance shooting wouldn't be a hassle. I could by the cheapest shit in the store but that's not how a good rifle deserves to be treated.

>>28351127
Could buy*

Is it autistic to pick a gun based on exterior design?

>>28351989
no, it's just elitist, but not a huge issue considering the active aftermarkets these days

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Is ~$300 for a police trade-in S&W Model 10? Really want a babby's first revolver

>>28352006
How is it elitist? If I think a certain gun looks pretty I'll buy it, not to show off but because I find it aesthetically pleasing even if uglier guns perform better.

looking to buy my first gun, would it better to go to an actual local gun store or a bigger chain like AIM, what about pawn shops and more rural orientated stores?

How do burglars usually break into a home?

>>28352062
>because I find it aesthetically pleasing even if uglier guns perform better.
answered your own questions
but again, aftermarket does exist so the real difference is negligible as long as you're within a reasonable price range

>>28352094
local gun store, big chains will usually have people who know nothing about what they're selling you and are less likely to let you fingerfuck the gun to get a feel for it
pawn shops are great if you know what you want or have a general idea and want to shop around, but go in with some knowledge or you can get conned

whats a good site to find the cheapest ammo online?

are there any good budget irons for an AR?

Just picked up a remington 870 express magnum with 50 rounds of rifled slugs and 50 00 buck for $150, did I do good? Also, can I shoot rifled slugs in a non-rifled barrel with no choke?

>>28352545
Unless you can get a Matech for cheap, Magpul MBUS is the best for cheap
>>28352568
>50 slugs and 50 rounds of 00 buck, plus a gun for $150
Yes thats fucking good, fucking hell, do you not ever go to gun shops and look at ammo prices?
>Also, can I shoot rifled slugs in a non-rifled barrel with no choke?
Yeah, thats the whole fucking point of rifled slugs.

>>28349403
Buddy's father once asked Ed Brown if he should buy a steel frame for practice and an aluminum frame to carry. Brown told him to buy a steel frame and lose 5 pounds.

Game, set, match.

>>28352590
I know next to nothing about shotguns. I just figured it was a good deal but wanted to get some confirmation. I haven't seen an express magnum before so I was confused.

>>28352590

I need a front and rear, so the magpuls it is.

>>28352284
By posing as contractors and walking in the front door when you're not home

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Hey guys, trying to find myself a good m65 style jacket like the one in the lower middle of this picture. Do you guys have any good recommendations as to where you can buy these? It doesn't have to be black but it has to be a decently thick m65. My ex had her uncle's and it was super fashionable, but it was too small for me to wear.

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I've been looking at the Rock Island Armory M1911-A2 FS Tactical for a while. It's a double stack version. Anything wrong with them?

How wide are they?

http://www.tombstonetactical.com/catalog/rock-island/1911-a2-fs-tactical-pistol-45acp-5in-14rd-parkerized/

Lightweight 1911's have a shorter half-life. They're prone to cracking at the slide-stop pin hole, and the point where the dust cover meets the frame, etc. Yeah, you shouldn't shoot steel followers in a LW frame, but I prefer the Devel style follower.

LW Commanders have been around forever. LW Officers have been around for , what- 25 years? It's not immature technology. If you wear one out you've cost-exceeded the value of the gun in ammo. I'd probably part it out on Gunbroker.

That said- the LW 1911's handle fantastic- the real sleeper of the bunch is a LW 5". They're quicker out of the leather, and transitions from one target to another feel quicker.

Is the rock island m206 snubby a shit?

>>28352779
Get an Austrian one. Usually between $20 and $30. I've had mine for several years now and it's still holding up perfectly.

As you get shorter with 1911's the reliability takes a hit. That light slide really speeds up, so the magazine struggles to bring the next round up in time for the slide to strip the round. You'll probably find magazine springs will be key to your future enjoyment.

I've been to a gun show before but i never interacted with much of anything or asked to hold anything.

I'm thinking of going to one again soon to buy something if i can find a deal. I'm just wondering what's generally the best way to respectfully deal with vendors? I don't want to come off as a spazz since my knowledge is limited but i don't want to be looked down upon either i'm not a savant of weaponry.

Like i said a dumb question but i really don't want to leave empty handed if it can be helped and not have any bad experiences lingering over my shoulder.

>>28353183
Just walk around and if you see something you like ask to pick it up.
Really not that hard, gun show people generally aren't the most judgmental people in the world.

>>28353209
After reading some of the gun shop stories threads i get the impression there's some general code of conduct i should be aware of and that's what i'm kind of trying to find out if there is such a thing.

Especially when handling a purchase or potential purchase and getting to know the fire arm before deciding it.

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Do you ever have impure thoughts about Khajiit?

>>28350847
Since no one answered it, basically nothing. A longer barrel may swing more smoothly due to the weight. I'm inclined to say that unless you own a lot of shotguns that a 2in difference would be hard to notice. I would go 26 because of weight for long days shooting rabbits.

>>28352495
gunbot.net
ammoseek

>>28352568
that's 'bout half as much as the gun costs alone plus $70 worth of ammo.

>>28352284
smash a window within arms reach of the lock and then unlock and open the door from the inside, sometimes pop a sash lock on a window with a screwdriver. rarely pick the lock, or go in the garage and spend all the time they need getting through the interior door to the garage.

>>28353289
don't point the gun at anyone, don't take it apart without asking, keep your finger off the trigger. unless you ask if it's okay to dryfire, they say yes, and you clear it first.

>>28353322
no

up until now, I've only owned centerfire rifles. I was thinking I'd get a single break-action 12ga and get a few barrel-inserts for different calibers and whatnot. What is the best price to performance-wise single 12ga? Where could I get barrel inserts for 9mm, 22lr, and so on?

>>28353322
All the time.

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Can anyone identify the gun in this picture?

>>28353839
Ak pistol with a magpul handguard

>>28353845
Yeah but there's like ten different kinds of AK pistols. I mean specifically.

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>>28353845
wait, shit, its got a skeleton folder on it. So SBR AK then.

>>28353861
idk what kind it is, maybe the slavaboos at the AK general can help more.

>>28353868
Don't think it's even SBRd. Just an SLR-107 with Magpul handguard

>>28353861
m92 pap SBR with a side folding stock and magpul forend

>>28353861
That's a combined gas tube+front sight so probably about a 12.5 inch barrel or so in a 7.26x39

The Arsenal equivalent would be the SLR-107CR with a different muzzle device, a triangle side folder, and the Magpul Zhukov forend.

>>28353770
>What is the best price to performance-wise single 12ga?
a $30 used one from an auction that you checked the hinge and lockup on during the preview.
or a slam bang made of a few pieces of scrap pipe if you have it laying around, can't beat free.
http://www.gunadapters.com/


>>28353861
polish hellpup from the rivets, but there isn't much difference ak pistol to ak pistol.

>>28353322

Have you ever had a cut on your tongue? Just thinking about it gives me the willies.

1. what ear protection won't fuck up my cheek weld? muffs fuck it up and are uncomfortable with eye protection and ear plugs dont help enough stopping tinnitus

2. how to relax and be less fidgety when lining up a shot?

>>28353322
I think the thing with furries is that the cat and dog faces can do semi-human expressions. The Khajiit are like 100% catface so it's uncanny valley as fuck.

Can I store my 10/22 with no magazine in it?

>>28354641
why are your ear muffs contacting the stock? Sounds like you're holding it wrong or aren't wearing your earpro correctly.

Also, do a lot of dryfire practice and stop being a jumpy pansy, the gun won't hurt you if you're not in front of it and the earpro is on right.

>>28354664
yes

>>28354641
1. There are some earplugs that feel like they're made of some sort of wax that you can mold and conform to the shape of your ear. Those in combination with those plugs that have that plastic connecting piece that pushes them in does a pretty damn good job, although my hearing is already damaged so it might not be as good as I think it is.

2. What do you mean fidgety?

>>28354641

1. Your cheekweld is shit. A proper cheekweld will allow you to be able to shoot with muffs
2. Dry fire and practice your fundamentals at home

Here's a guide you should watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rLfYLM48Ms

>>28349507

comp-tac minotaur

>>28353322
Yiff in hell! YIFF IN HELL!!!

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How many aluminum 30 round ar mags does it take to fill a .30 cal ammo can? A .50 cal?
I'm wondering how many more ammo cans I should get. I'm getting 8 ar mags and plan on getting 1000 rounds of various .223/5.56. I don't have any ammo cans that aren't being used.

Who has failed a 4473 and why?

>>28355076
Figure out the percentage of space one fills that then find how many times you can multiply that number without going over one hundred.

That's how many.

Has anyone found the schematics for a real AK lightning link? I've found pictures and videos of them and how they work but the AR kind is apparently so fucking common that it's all that comes up when searching.

What can yall tell me bout sticky holsters brand?? Are they any good? i like the idea of using it with basketball shorts. It requires no belt or clip.

I'm getting a suppressor soon and I'll have to change the flash hider on my AR. I've never fucked with muzzle devices before, does anyone have tips or advice for doing this?

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What thorny shrub is best for home defense? (that are hardy enough to survive in Norway/Canada)

Is the PTR91 the best bang for your buck for an HK / FAL pattern rifle?

Is the ruger entry level ar good?

I'm looking to get babby's first ar and I'm split between it and the m&p sport.

Does anybody have any favorite naval gunfire videos where the shells zooming out into the horizon is audible?

>>28355104
did you search grabcad?

>>28353030
anyone?

>>28355192
Just get your wrench, put a rag over your flash hider and wrench that sucker off.

Why have guns stayed pretty much the same for like 100 years?

>>28355562
http://thecrimepreventionwebsite.com/garden-boundaries-fences-and-defensive-plants/618/defensive-plants-shrubs-and-trees-shrub-fences/
depends on your soil and light conditions

>>28355598
yeah unless you find an absurd deal somewhere.

>>28355851
because missiles are where it's at.

>>28350901
online

>>28350126
It's fair.

>>28352037
go for a model 19 or 66 man, they were better guns overall

>>28355192
barrel vise. go to startpage.com and search for it.

If you have a bench vise at home, just make some wooden jaws out of soft pine for it with a circular cut out for the barrel.

slicker than snot, with no marring of the barrel's finish.

>>28355670
Ruger should be fine as long as you don't overpay. If you decide on the SW get the mp15 sport 2. It's all of what the first sport should have been.

I received an 1858 Reminfton revolver for Christmas and I'm considering getting a conversion cylinder for it. Since I don't hand load can anyone recommend specific factory brands/loads that will be safe to shoot out of it?

>>28357381
as long as it's not a brass frame you should be ok with anything not +p

>>28349459
>hot loads

At :08 what is he turning?
Gas regulator?

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>>28357782
Fuck

>>28357782
>>28357807
he's turning a suppressor onto the rifle

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>>28357862
you

>>28356012
Thanks but I'm thinking of starting on .38 to learn revolver shit, especially because I'm pretty Skeletor. Will try a 19 in .357 though.

Why do flash hiders exist?

If you want to hide your muzzle flash at night and conceal your position, use a suppressor. It'll work even better.

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What is that long revolver called?

>>28358990
It's an 1858 Remington carbine

>>28355711
reviews for ria 1911s are shit.

>>28356588
Thanks anon

>>28353030
>not getting it in 10mm

seriously all the reviews of the 10mm version say its rock solid.

>>28359247
Why 10mm instead of .45?

>>28359279
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sl%C3%A6depatruljen_Sirius#Equipment

Why are half the threads up right now trash?

>>28359350
winter break, welcome to /b--- i mean, /k/

>>28358578
more weight more expensive more gun to swing around, and they need to be cleaned or have a short service life.

>>28359039
bump what question?

>>28359369
I went though the catalog and counted.

In my opinion, there are 23 threads that /k/ would be better off without. Just end my life.

>>28359417
just go watch some bojack horseman, it's what i'm gonna do.

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>>28357718

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>>28359476
I made a wallpaper instead

Is there any real difference between modern production SIG 225 and the west German 225/p6?

>>28355109
Anyone? Realy rather get that type of holster then the eeg holsters

Seeing as gun laws are going to be eased back a bit in my country, I've been wondering something.

When you see a brawl on the street (in this case, it was two adults vs 8 teenagers trying to act tough), and one side (teenagers) has a tire iron, while the other (adults) has a 2x4 and they're both going at it with said weapons, is it justified and/or illegal to fire a warning shot to break it up?

Scenario I just gave actually happened in my country today, and one of the adults suffered serious brain damage after he got hit with the tire iron in the head a couple of times.

>>28359832
no. just report the incident to the local LE. you don't want to get involved in that shit.

>>28359832
Th gun is the last resort for defending your life. Just stay out of it first and try everything you can to avoid engaging while the police are coming

>>28359985
>>28360036
I'd agree with these two. I mean, consider how these people got into this sort of spot in their life to begin with. then consider what you may be risking to help them.

sometimes you just have to let idiots be idiots and beat each other with 2x4s

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Identify the bullets.

This is Trump's media rep Katrina.

>>28360167
7.63 Mauser/7.62 Tok

>>28360190
Too big

>>28360167
she's based

hurricane katrina

>>28360167
Looks like upscaled 22lr

>>28350295
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00IL4S248/ref=mp_s_a_1_9?qid=1451433731&sr=8-9&keywords=FR+balaclava

All my linemen buddies wear these so I got one. Warm as fuck.

>>28350854
You'd be hard pressed to find a difference in your pattern from 2 extra inches of barrel. Shorter barrel = wider spread, but it's not that big of a change. Maybe a half inch at 15 yards. Get the shorter one.

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>>28360292
Currently unavailable.

going to get a reloading setup for 308 and 6.5CM/7RM. Looking at a Lee Classic 4 hole turret press, going to get lee 308 dies for now. Any thing else I should get? I'll probably do powder and primers at cabelas for my first order.

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>>28349403
Probably been asked a million times but AR or AK?

It will be my first large gun. Don't live in a bad neighborhood or anything but I'd like to get one before the election.

Money is no object, but I want the best bang for my buck, and dont wanna pay more than I have to.

Is it true that a high quality AK would cost less than a medium quality AR? Needs ergonomics and reliability. A respectable gun I can keep hopefully forever.

>>28360531
AR.

You can build a $400 PSA build, or go balls to the wall and spend $1200+ on a tacticool rifle, and anywhere in between.

Is it legal to send a holster from USA to Europe? I've heard that some of gun related items that are not weapons are restricted for shipping.

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>>28360531
It's ultimately up to you, don't let idiots with their jaded opinions taint your decision making. There are a few points to keep in mind though:

>Environment
Do you live in the plains? if so, maybe an AR with a 20" barrel would suit you more. Heavily forested/hilly area? Maybe an AK would be better.

>Ammo availability
if you're truly concerned about potential gun legislation, maybe an AR would be better (since it can take .223 and 5.56). Like buying ammo in bulk? Maybe 7.62x39 spam cans would make some good furniture.

>Parts/Longevity
From what I've HEARD, the reliability argument for the AK is a bit of a moot point with the wide availability of cheap AR parts. That's not to say those parts aren't attainable for an AK either, just that they're more common.

>Fun Factor
do you want to innanam? blast whitesnake from your house while shooting intruders/raiders? do you often break into fits of uncontrollable applause? AR.

do you use cosmoline as personal lubricant? did you lose your virginity to a mosin? is your name Artyom? AK.

tl;dr fuck all opinions, including what I just said. get what makes you happy and serves you best.

>pic related, me after I post this

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All right lads, I want to build myself a trench gun for cheap, like under $500 if possible. I'd like to have wood (or fake wood?) furniture, bayonet mount and slamfire capability a must, exact historical accuracy optional. What do? It looks like IAC/Norinco used to make pretty much exactly this, but that they don't anymore, and I wouldn't mind a 3" chamber if possible. Or maybe I should just wait for one of the repros to crop up on gunbroker. Thoughts?

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>>28360682
I asked this exact question about a week or two ago in this general and no one helped me.

From what I found online, most, if not all, of the reasonably priced trench models are bought up.

BUT

I did find a Norinco/IAC M97 sold by none other than fucking Bud's Gun Shop and bought it.
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/37_288/products_id/1767/INTER+97+12+20+HAMMER+PUMP+SGN+WAL
Now I know, it's not a trench model, but check this out.
http://www.ima-usa.com/u-s-wwi-winchester-m-1897-trench-gun-ventilated-barrel-jacket-heat-shield-with-bayonet-mount.html

From looking at the current fitting on the end of the tube, it's all affixed with plain old screws. I plan on getting one of these (hopefully I can find it a little cheaper) as well as a bayonet for it.

remember, momma don't like tattletales.

>>28360803
oh, and I forgot to say. the wood on mine is pretty fantastic. the only real imperfections I've noticed are some minor wear along the tube from the pump, but considering this bitch can slamfire, I probably would have done that myself after a month anyways.

>>28359390
>have a short service life.
what the fuck are you even talking about

How do I sight in novak 1911 sights?

I'm new to handfuns

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>>28355109
>>28359829
Found a pic for better illustration on the sticky holster I'm not saying I'ma cc while wearing basketball shorts but sounds nice to be able too.

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>>28355598
The lads over in /brg always recommend looking for Imbel FALs on the FAL Files marketplace forum.

>>28360803
>>28360875
Huh. Thanks. Yeah, I'd like to mount that sword bayonet to mine as well, preferably in such a way that it stays on while firing. It's just not the same without one, you know?

>>28360803
Oh, and check this out: http://www.gunpartscorp.com/ad/813820.htm

Slightly more expensive, but it's either the same thing marketed as being OK to shoot with or actually built to shoot with. So.

Collapsible batons vs Knives for self defense?

A baton seems so much more appealing to me since I'm pretty sure when it came to it I wouldn't have it in me to cut somebody, but I'd be completely fine with cracking some ribs.

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>>28360803
Bear in mind you'll need to cut clearance notches in the barrel to prevent the adapter from sliding, These also require a different magazine tube cap, but these show up on the parts and auction sites quite often.

Here is the business end of my IAC trench gun.

>>28361557
>>28361613
thanks for the info. if it doesn't want to plug and play, I'll probably just take it to a gunsmith and have it done right, I'm not exactly handy with metal and will likely end up with it canted and it will forever be a trigger for me.

Is it out of line to ask for a gun in box rather than the one on display?

Can I get a price check drawn from your opinions?

>3 inch barrel raging judge magnum

I see other people selling them for close to $1000 online, but usually never any bidders. I have been trying to sell a black one for $750, but I think I'm going to have to drop to $500.
I guess there was a huge quality scare in this model particularly.

>20 ga side-by-side remington baikal shotgun
Never been used, perfect condition, very nice wood stock. I was thinking $500 or so.

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Recommended sights for a Glock 19 gen 3? It's my carry gun and I've come to realize that when it gets even a little bit dark, I can't see shit with the stock sights.
I've heard good things about pic related, but I was also looking at TruGlo and Meprolight Tru-dot (and frankly the colored sights look cooler).
Meprolight Tru-dot is also only $60
TruGlo is $80
Trijicon is $100
I've come to learn that when it comes to gun related things, you get what you pay for. What does /k/ think?

>>28361784
No, in fact they shouldn't be selling the displays of new guns unless they have the box and etc.

>>28362076
TruGlo TFO all day you get the best of both worlds, fiber for hi viz day shooting and tritium for no light shooting.

>>28359649

Yes, current production is a modified 239, minimal if any part compatibility. I don't think mags were even going to interchange.

>>28362076
Trijicon knocks out the tubes and relamps your sights for less than $60. The other companies tell you to pound sand and buy new sights.

http://www.amazon.com/Trijicon-Night-Sight-Glock-Pistols/dp/B004W5D830

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hey dudes, what does IEC mean? it's a vz24 in 8mm mauser.

How much should one expect to pay to have a gunsmith install ghost ring sights on a shotgun?

>>28362486
Wilson Combat charges $165. Not sure if that includes the sights, but since they specify Tritium Trak-Lok then I'm assuming it does.

>>28362554
I don't really want to send it away though. It's pretty much a one-day job, I just don't have the tools to tap the receiver and I don't want to be left holding the bag if I fuck up

>>28362321
Probably refers to the unit it belonged to.

>>28362610
Asking your local gunsmith to drill and tap should be about a $70 job. $90-$100 for the whole installation sounds about right.

>>28361784
if it's the only one they have, then its your choice.

if its a model they regularly carry, and they refuse to sell you a new in box one, talk to the manager and either get a boxed one or never go there again

>>28360347
http://amzn.com/B00GQWJ80Y
they should get more soon.

>>28360607
almost everything is an itar violation, mark it an airsoft holster.

>>28361031
depending on the construction of the suppressor they are only good for a certain number of shots. if it's a hardy baffle construction that comes apart for cleaning it'll last until you start getting baffle strikes as long as you clean it regularly, but those are relatively new on the scene. if you can't open it up to clean they gum up, if it uses felt or steel wool it gums up.

>>28361605
pepper spray, big flashlight or a padlock tied to a handkerchief if that isn't manly enough.

>>28361784
not out of line

>>28362073
yeah, around five on the judge.
https://www.gunsamerica.com/986879986/TAURUS-MODEL-513-RAGING-JUDG.htm
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/21_50_494/products_id/17251/Taurus+4510TKR-3B+M4510+Judge+5RD+2.5%22+410ga45LC+3%22
might be high on that sxs, people don't like 20 so much.
https://www.gunsamerica.com/986363278/Baikal-MP220-20-Gauge-SxS-Shotgun.htm

Did we used to have someone posting cartoon porn of anthropomorphized tanks on tank threads?

How do I get into gun ownership and shooting? Not so much what to buy, but what my first steps should be. I'm guessing something like taking a CCW class and then regular range trips would be a good approach. We're assuming, of course, that I have no friends or at least no one willing and able to teach me.

>>28363010
yeah that or buy a cheap rifle and watch lots of youtube videos.

>>28363312
Just making sure I don't have a completely retarded idea. Thank you.

The PTR91/G3/C308 is banned in my state. If i built one from a flat receiver would I have anything to worry about legally? Or would i be covered under the ATF's rules that say you can build whatever assuming it's not an NFA item?

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>>28349403
https://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/arsenal-slr104fr-31-5-45x39mm-side-folding-rifle-detail.html?Itemid=0

Y/N?

>>28363830
Y

>>28363010
Read up on guns, watch lotsa videos, etc. Take it upon yourself to educate. Going on range class trips is not a bad idea as well.

>>28363010
I went and talked to the guys at my local Fun store, they helped me out

Will CMP run out of field and/or service grade garands any time in the near future?

>>28364195
no one knows. some asswipe could order every gun they have left then sell them all at a profit. or they could last for another year.

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>>28363830
hell yes

>>28364195
Yes. I think the projection, if they keep going at the current rate, is that they run out sometime this year or very early 2017

>>28364225
Gotchya. Just trying to plan my next gun purchase. I want a garand, but I'm unsure of whether or not I should prioritize buying one in case CMP runs out of 'em. I guess there are always other ways for me to buy a garand, though.

>>28363628
if it's banned it's still banned, varies a bit state by state though in ct it was if the gun was in the same caliber and had some significant part interchangeability it was the same gun no matter what you called it for example.

you get no coverage at the state level from the atf.

>>28364275
I'm prioritizing to buy a garand as my next gun purchase. you'll spend almost twice what you would buying one from cmp if you just bought it off of bubba on armslist. buy one while you can. but save one for me.

>>28364318
Thanks anon. Will do.

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So /k/, I come to you once again for help.

My buddy had a garage fire, and in it he lost a Mak-90, a M1 Garand, and a browning hi-power.
The m1 and the hi power were complete losses

But the Mak-90, that's where I need help. It burned, but the primary damage is the retardant used by the FD extinguishing the fire, and the furniture is gone.
The internals seem O K, but I haven't looked at it much.
It had a thumb hole stock, as I've heard that makes some relevance with 922(r) and how the stock fits the receiver.
I apologize for my ignorance surrounding this rifle.

I should have images soon, but tonite I do not.
Have anyone has experience here?

I hope to restore this gun. Is there any hope?

Thanks in advance

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>>28353839
>this machine kills daemons
>Mark of Khorne on the grip

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Let's say I have one of those PTR PDWs. If I were to put a stock on it, that'd be an SBR. But since the barrel is threaded, if a silencer were added, would that count towards overall length and turn it into a normal rifle given a stock and a length of 26 inches or greater?

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>>28359476
>bojack horseman

mein nigger

>>28365727
if it was pinned and welded bringing the barrel length to 16 yeah you could put a stock

if the overall with stock was 26+ but the barrel+perm attached silencer was under 16 it would be a sbr

>>28365753
So it'd have to be permanently attached then?

>>28349438
>Weaker
If you say so, Anon. I would imagine that the greater flexibility of Aluminum would be doing you favors.

>>28365768
yes and you would still need the nfa stamp for the silencer
if your already getting one stamp whats another 200 to make it not a complete pain in the ass to clean

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Can /k/ help me out? I went to my local surplus store and spent about $90 on a helmet and cost. I really think both of these are fake.

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>>28365924
Dumping some pics

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>>28365938

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>>28365947
Here's the inside of the coat, the liner can be removed by undoing a shit ton of buttons

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>>28365967
This patch is SCARWAF, so Korean war.

>>28365727
That's in .308 yeah? Odd choice for a pdw/pistol I think

>>28366011
Yeah. Wanted it for the SBR potential down the road.

>>28365727
The suppressor would need to be perma pinned which is pretty stupid on a 308

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>>28354691
Nice.
>>28355076
my .30 cal ammo can probably wouldn't be able to lay them flat you'd have to put them on their side should fit around 6 to 8 of them roughly.

>>28353322
>pic related

How do people afford so guns? Are they just cheaper in America or something?

>>28365528
wood furniture comes up as people tacticool them, this stock will work if you care about 922, and most anything can be made to work if you don't.
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/557730/choate-dragunov-stock-and-handguard-ak-47-mak-90-stamped-receiver-synthetic-black

>>28365924
can't tell for sure from pics, but that looks like korean war era stuff, you did ok at $90. if it's real leather, steel, and wool it would cost significantly more than that for repro re-enactor gear.

>>28366644
some of us have lots of money.

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How did humans kill megafauna like the mammoth with nothing but a bunch of rocks and sticks(with rock tips)? How did they fend off giant bears, wolves, lions and tigers?

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>>28349403

what do you guys think of pic related

>>28367091
teamwork

>>28367104
looks kind of silly, if you're hitting someone with your gun you're doing it wrong. i can't really think of a modern, legal scenario where you should be pistol whipping someone.

>>28367091

We are much smarter than animals. We are also pack hunters. Early humans would just chase animals until they collapsed from exhaustion. We are really good at running for long periods, other animals are good for sprinting. We just tracked and tracked until they died.

Big animals we drove off cliffs, or you could just bleed the thing. One spear won't kill it, a few dozen eventually will.

Think of how you would kill a large animal with spears and a few dozen men. Our ancestors were no dumber in the "practical" knowledge department.

>>28367179

i was thinking after you're out of ammo, i would never hold a loaded gun by the barrel

>>28367194
>Early humans would just chase animals until they collapsed from exhaustion
except for abos. Abos went full fucking Lord of the Flies and burned their whole goddamn island down hunting

I kind of want to buy a military bolt action, and I'm thinking of getting a Springfield 1903 because America and because I can actually source ammo for it easily and cheaply.

Are they worthwhile to try to get? What's a good price for one?

>>28367208
after you're out of ammo run away

Is a Glock 19 a decent beginners handgun?

>>28367501

it's the mcdonalds/honda accord/coca cola of handguns

yes

>>28367194
But we had large scavengers and other predators that would smell the kill, we'd have to be constantly on guard. I just don't see how we managed to kill something as large as a mammoth and then fend of something as large as a short-faced bear. I guess chasing them off cliffs worked, but then you'd need cliffs to be around.

Trump talking about building a strong military, how exactly do we do that without pumping more money into it?

>>28368018

this is what I've heard from him:

we're going to save by not needing to use it, since our strength will be such a deterrent

he's also said that other countries are going to have to step up financially where we are providing a military presence

>>28367058
Taticool or not doesn't matter, and I want full legal compliance. Thanks a million anon

>>28349403
Oversimplification but,
>aluminum: lighter but less durable
>steel: more durable but heavier

>>28366644
working for a living

I don't see a sticky, so I'll ask here. I'm about to get a job in a pretty shitty part of Memphis and would like to start carrying. Is there a short list of preferred light-weight pistols for carry that /k/ agrees on?

Somebody post the pic of the dumb female soldier pointing two guns at herself.

>>28370052
get an Obrez.

Are glock mags universally shit, or was it just the (several) I've tried at the store? They're all made of plastic and kind of stick in the magwell instead of popping out like most other guns I handle.

Do pistol rear sights need to be centered on the slide?

I just installed new meprolights on my glock. I'm using a sight pusher tool and a laser bore sighter. I have been adjusting my rear sight with the laser and finally got the sights and lasers aligned. But when I look at the slide overall I can very clearly see the rear sights have been drifted more towards the right whereas before with the stock sights the rear sights was centered in the middle of the slide. Is this normal?

>>28353322
Some. The more "realistic" ones with more animal features... no.

>>28358990
Something similar exists called the Rossi Circuit Judge, I think.

>>28349497
this.

If you notice, the AR-15 is designed to divert as much force as possible away from the aluminum parts, and designed to avoid sharp angles. This is much harder to do with a pistol.

Gonna be weak shit, can probably ruin it by stepping on it.

Anon.

Think of a paperclip, made of steel, can be bent a lot. Think of a razor blade, it's springy and hard to bend, also very resilient.


Now think of aluminum in those same applications.
Would you use Al for any thing that takes a lot of force and can injure you if it fails? Al with steel parts wearing on it, hammering on a 90 degree angle made of aluminum all day?

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is .38 or 9mm better for a CCW revolver?

why?

>>28370838
I think 9mm because
>very comparable muzzle energy
>doesn't break your wrist
>more booleets

>>28370838
Or, assuming our semantics isn't shit, I would go with the .38 because 9mm revolvers are a shit.

I'm looking for a bolt action hunting rifle. What's a good option for ~$300?

>>28363830
I bought my Vepr from AF, no problems with it yet

>>28365528
>gun destroyed in fire
How? I'd assume that a lot of the parts would still be okay, since metal, and that only the furniture would burn away? Or do those guns have more plastic than I thought?

>>28365774
Aluminum is weaker than steel, there's no going around it. Maybe you're thinking of titanium?

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is there any improvised modern melee weapon more effective than the paperclip flail?

>>28366644
When you still live with your parents and don't have to pay car insurance etc. since no car, a couple months' salary, even minimum wage, adds up to a few guns.

>>28367104
>Skull Crusher Plate
Yeah, that's not going to get the soccer moms and antifuns riled up or anything.

>>28370052
bersa thunder
keltek pf9
ruger lc9

k doesn't agree on a lot but those are generally acceptable, find one you like.

>>28371069
savage axis

>>28371129
no, that is the epitome of modern combat.

>>28368055
Good ideas.
I think we all know he's going to glass over some unfortunate melanin rich country though.

it's not necessarily the funding we need, but instead actually haggling a little bit instead of letting boeing make like 100,000% profit on their fucking fighter jets.

>>28371324
>Lower the price or we're spitefully buying a bunch of Typhoons which we could get 3 for the price of 1 so it wouldn't fucking matter fucking faggots
>Boeing btfo

>>28371324
> like 100,000% profit on their fucking fighter jets
everyone gets so mad about pork barrels, it's like a stimulus package, besides you want your fighter jets to be made in china?

>>28371478
>implying a lot of the raw circuitry doesn't come from china already

They cost so much (and so do the parts to maintain them jesus fucking christ) and for no reason other than it can.

Why are hunting rifles stuck in the past? How can someone stay in business on nostalgia alone? Why don't people buy the best and most modern rifles?

>>28371552
Because they like the feel of a bolt action wood stock scoped rifle, for the same reason that they like their best and most modern rifle.

>>28371285
>Savage axis

I'm not that anon, but I've thought a lot about getting one.
I am a whore for cheap guns because I would rather have a bunch of funs than only a few nice ones.
>I still have a gucci AR and a sig though because I'm not a fudd

We had a thread about reusable muslims a while ago and i been wondering.

How stupid is attach a claymore in your chest and detonate it?

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Is buying bulk 7n6 5.45 a safe investment?

Are VEPRs ban state friendly?

>>28372541
No, you missed that boat by a mile

>>28355076

Twenty in a .30 cal can and 32 in a .50.

>>28372680
could I at least break even a few years down the line?

>>28372706
Doubt it. Even if it doesn't get unbanned, it;s not particularly good ammo. Cheap was all it had going for it. Maybe it goes for 30-40 cents a round in 5 years

>>28365924
>>28365938
Found a stamp in the helmet, U.SCH.59
Apparently it means Heinrich Ulbricht's Witwe, Schwanenstadt, which was made in 1959.
Fun Fact: the adjustment strap on the the liner was riveted in backwards

Does Para USA not sell guns anymore? I cant find a way to buy or order anything from them.

>>28372406
worst korean approved
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axe_murder_incident
*subject to violent disagreement by /k/ommando(s) who claim to have been there

>>28372541
no

>>28372648
yes, what state?

>>28372706
well what can you get it for?

>>28372825
http://bearingarms.com/breaking-remington-brings-para-usa-fold-para-brand-eliminated/

>>28372970
21 cents a round

>>28373061
no. buy what you want, plan on it being 30cpr max in the future, buy bonds.

>>28373100
im only afraid 5.45 will be hard to come by in the future, which is why I want to buy bulk, and I've been told 7n6 milspec is the only round I should use in a 74

>>28373309
>I've been told 7n6 milspec is the only round I should use in a 74
whoever told you that is a moron. The commercial stuff is often superior to 7n6. Modern military issue 5.45 and commercial 5.45 is made in the same damn factories.
The only reason we got 7n6 was because it was shitty and obsolete compared to newer loadings.

>>28372970
>worst korean approved
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axe_murder_incident
Well that was interesting, thanks.

>>28373309
it won't be hard to come by, wolf makes it, hell i think there are a few american sources, and you can use any 5.45x39 in your 74 just fine. get as much as you think you'll shoot, but when you said investment i assumed you were planing on reselling, which is an enormous pita.

Out of curiosity, when did slings come into common use?
Seems like any depictions of people using long guns >100 years ago never shows people using slings

What are the perks to owning a gorka? Why are people so harddicked for them?

Is there a good handgun with an external safety (like an M9)?

>>28373524
>Is there a good handgun with an external safety (like an M9)?
the M9

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>>28373425
they go way back, 1746 brown bess had standard sling swivels

How dangerous are guns? And by that I mean to ask: how dangerous are they for the user? How likely are they to malfunction in a dangerous manner(I guess this differs between every gun)?. Can ammunition malfunction/go off?

>>28373601
Most malfunctions are actually due to faulty/really old ammunition, rather than the gun itself.
A failure that actually blows up the gun is not common, and probably won't take your hand or anything too serious. You're very unlikely to get such a malfunction from factory ammo, it almost always happens with shitty, reloaded ammo.
I did once hear of a guy accidentally loading a .300 Win Mag to Super Mag pressure and dying when he fired it though. Also, the Vulcan .50 that launches it's bolt into the shooter's shoulder

>>28373601
You're probably more likely to get hurt driving to the range or shot by some .44 wielding bitch sweeping all over the place with shit trigger discipline because guns aren't for women.

>>28373677
Shit, I just bought 600 rounds of 9mm ammo that I didn't know was "remanufactured" from Cabelas, made by Ultramax. Was ~23c/round and came with 2 free boxes, so I figured "why not". How fucked am I?

>>28373707
>Go to the shotgun range
>Mfw there's always a guy with his gf who doesn't say anything as she sweeps everybody else there

>>28373716
it's fine

>>28351127
http://www.gunbot.net/ammo/rifle/308/

>>28373716
*Probably* fine. I have shot remanufactured ammo before without issues. It's just more likely to be shitty than factory ammo.
Proper remanufactured ammo is still much more safe than the reloads random old funds sell at gun shows

>>28373677
Thanks for the info. I've never shot a gun and me and my family are interested. We'll begin with pistols though, probably 9mm, so I suppose we're very unlikely to hurt ourselves that way(assuming we take proper care of handling the guns). Already been looking into gun safety a lot.

>>28373707
Thanks. Guns aren't for women? I thought they were pretty good for women given how they're pretty much an equalizer. And we're starting light.

Fucking paranoid from all the anti-gun indoctrination though. I can't help but imagine anyone at the range with a gun is out to kill us. I guess that will pass quickly once we get into the community though.

>>28373727
Yeah.

If you wouldn't trust her with a hole saw, why would you trust her with your nigger slayer?

Why don't bullets have explosives in them?

>>28373765
In my honest opinion, every woman I've dated has been too emotional for me to trust with a weapon. I "accidentally" forgot to let my ex shoot my AR and 30-30 when we shot a few rounds at my grandpa's. She had a Ruger Mk. II though. Maybe a .22, but the chances of surviving a stray round through a wall from a .22 is a lot fucking higher than a .12 ga.

She needs a boyfriend she can trust with a gun, but then most women (people in general) are absolute shit about reading people when they want to fuck them.

>>28373795
Some do

Nogunz headed to gun show on Sunday, looking to get gun.

Any good east to use/maintain rifles for around$400-600?

Also good cc pistols for tiny baby hands?

>>28373765
A gun used safely and firing halfway decent ammunition is no serious risk, you'll be fine.
Many modern guns are actually designed so that should they get blown up by far-too-powerful ammunition the blast will be directed away from the shooter's hand.
Other various handgun tips:
>Make sure fingers and hands are not right behind the slide on a semi auto
>Make sure they're clear of the hammer if there is one
>If the gun is a revolver, make sure you have no fingers or ahead of the front edge of the cylinder

>>28373754
>>28373731
The only concern I have is that the headstamps are a grab bag (several manufacturers) and out of 600 rounds, 56 are what I think is aluminum instead of brass casing (it's not as dull as the steel-cased 54r I have and is a silvery colour), despite saying "once-fired brass". I've been wanting to see how aluminum behaves as opposed to brass, though, so that's not super bad.

>>28349403
Is there any reason to get a Winchester 1300 or a Ithaca 37 over today's Mossberg 500/Remington 870? I

>>28373812
Marlin 700 series would be best for you because you're starting. It's not a baby gun, I assure you, you can cap a nigga with it a lot more effectively than it looks like it is. The no recoil can allow you to magdump effectively.


Don't even think about CC until you've shot at least 1k rounds of .22 and had it 6-7 months, then do the same with your handgun before you go to the class. Don't let your qualifying round be your first time shooting the thing, lol.

>>28373812
Mosin nagant, not even joking. It's not a bad first rifle (inb4 "kicks like a mule"), it's relatively cheap to feed, and it's got like 6 parts, including screws, to worry about and clean.

Has anyone made a homemade grip for the chiappa little badger? I'm looking for ideas here

>>28373795
Some do, but you only see it in very large caliber rounds. The reason is pretty simple: in a small bullet you can't fit enough explosive to be meaningful. Additionally, explosive compounds are nowhere near as dense as lead, and extremely lightweight (for caliber) bullets just don't perform very well.

>>28373812
You happen to be from Florida?

What kind of hearing protection should I have for shooting? Ear buds or ear muffs?

>>28373904
Arizona actually

>>28373892
works just as well to have fragmenting rounds, similar to how the XM855 stuff for 5.56 works.
Two different materials so if it hits the ground it breaks apart completely and has a better chance of doing damage when fired out of a LMG if you don't score a direct hit. It also works through thin metal and glass significantly better because the lead can sheer off of the inner casing.

>>28373847
That's normal.
They generally use cases swept up from the floor of a gun range, so it'll be a large variety. On the occasions when I shoot such ammo, I like seeing how many different brands are represented in the casings.
And while steel and aluminium aren't as good as brass, they will still be fine to shoot

>>28373914
Both or either.

>>28373914
Either works, but muffs are usually better for noise reduction, especially if you're doing a lot of shooting at once. Doing both (plugs under muffs) isn't a bad idea unless you really need to listen for something.
I just usually use plugs with long guns though: muffs tend to interfere with my cheek weld

There's a beretta 92 in real good shape at my lgs for $500. I can probably talk them down a little.

I need a good full size 9mm but I've been saving my cash for the next gun show which is this weekend.

I'm also limiting my budget due to a vacation that the wife and I are taking next month.

Wat do? Get the 92 or save the cash for the show?

>>28374188
Just get a new one that isn't internally BTFO and isn't a 92

I'll admit I like the sights and everything about it, but it's a meme gun through and through, and that is enough to prevent me from buying it until they're cheap as dirt.

>>28374188
I've been looking a lot into the Walther PPQ.

I held a few full size 9mm and I like how it feels and looks. The sights click with me really well.

>>28374275
>>28374188
Personally, I was considering the 92FS, Walther PPQ, and HK VP9 until I actually handled a 92FS. It didn't sit right in my hand, and the PPQ felt much better. Then I settled on the VP9, since it was somehow more comfortable than the PPQ.

My 2c.

>>28374314
>>28374335
I'd recommend finding a VP9 in your LGS and seeing how it fits in your hand, I very much like mine.

>>28374275
Wait, how is a 92 a "meme gun"?
do I even want to know?

>>28374362
I've seen the words"meme gun" tossed around a lot recently; I'd ignore it if I were you since nobody has given me a definitive answer past shit-flinging.

>>28374335
92FS was designed for the military, no ergonomics so everyone can be equally dissatisfied.

Why would you use it unless you're forced to is my question.

>>28374374
It means it has a call of duty-esque 12 year old fanboy following as "one of the best guns ever that can kill in ONE SHOT!", type of shit.

>>28374275
>>28374314
>>28374335
>>28374375
Thx y'all. I was mainly thinking "this isn't a bad deal" and that, as such, i should jump on it. I'll just save and maybe pick up a couple of new lowers at the show.

Anyone got some tips for surviving a home invasion? What is the safest strategy to take assuming they are in my house on the first floor and my bedroom is in the second floor. Or if they are on the same floor. I have a dog that will alert me when they break in, but it will also signal pretty much where I am.

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Should i buy a CZ-75 SP-01 Shadow or a USP? Both in 9mm

>>28374517

Call the police, get a gun, point it at the door, and kill anyone who opens it. Take cover if at all possible.

>>28374551
Pretty much what I assumed. Guess I'll get some tactical furniture for cover :^)

>>28374541
The CZ is more tacticool, but the USP is probably a better gun.
I have a full size USP in 9mm and a compact in .40, both are great guns, the full size 9mm with a match trigger is unbelievably easy to shoot well, but it is pretty big (its lighter than the compact .40 though) and the magazine capacity is 15 as opposed to 17 or 19.

Wanna buy my first gun soon. Looking to purchase an SKS, what manufacturer/country do I want to get it from? I heard the Norincos are shit tier in terms of quality. Help please.

>>28375083
Anywhere that's not Albania. Norincos aren't really shit, they're just not as good as military.
The only ones available from stores these days are Chinese military surplus and some unissued Yugos. If they were both new, I'd take the Chinese for a chromed barrel and simpler gas system, but all the ones on sale are beat to hell. On the other hand, while the Yugos are damn nice looking, they are expensive

How long do you keep you finger nails?
Having long nails makes opening things, scraping things, ect easier, but can also get in the way, bend backwards, break painfully, ect.

>>28375337
Nasty bastard, keep em short

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can anyone tell me the make/size of the lens covers in this pic? Even better where I can get them

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>>28363830
yes

>>28375512
Butler Creek. Use a set of calipers and look at their size chart nig.

>>28371117
Well that's what I'm still working to figure out.

If it go too hot then the structure of the metal is fuked

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What would you call this sort of image that displays a view of all of a nation's ships during a current time frame? A lineup? Summary?

I fail at English or something. I'd like to look up other nations navies and different time frames and so forth.

Anyone know where j can buy the 2hu patches? Kommandostore and CCC don't have them listed. Please, I'm tempted to just buy an embroidary machine off Craigslist and make my own

So if I used simple green on some of my aluminium parts and they feel weird, is there anything I can do to help them? I can't get oil onto them for another 3 hours or so until I'm back to my own place and I'm worried I've ruined my gun.