Gear Queer Thread

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>pupper ponders how long thread will stay on point

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>>28340849
Have a NOD for that helmet?

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sigh

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I'll take a new picture when I get my can in. I'm still debating getting that $200 ceramic plate set

>>28341209
Oops. I have the stock fully extended when I'm shooting.

>>28341178
What carrier is that?

>>28341229
LBT 6094A. Pretty sure it's swimmer cut.

Carrier costs just about 1200$ used

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>>28341260
yeah but pretty sure it comes with plates doesnt it?

>>28341333
What the fuck, no, of course not.

>>28341346
odd since the modular plate carrier LT/LTC does

>>28341398
This is a SURPLUS carrier. You can't buy them new in AOR1.

1200 for the carrier alone, used

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>>28341434
>1200 USD in nylon
Holy Cock

What the fuck for?!

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>>28341853
only made for the military. so rare factor.
plus MUH NAVY SEALS

I haven't really read gear queer threads at all, what are some good plate carriers for not a whole lot of cash? (plates not included of course)

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>>28340877
>dem lazer lense covers

>>28342219
skdtac has poorfag options

>>28342219
/k/ generally recommends a slick carrier, so you can run just plates or a chest rig on top

You'll usually be looking about $100+ for anything that's not regarded by the gq's as airshit

Check out skd tac's Pig Brig ~$120
http://www.skdtac.com/PIG-Brig-Plate-Carrier-All-Molle-Rear-SYSTEMA-p/pig.401.htm

Ferro Concepts makes a slick with a cummerbund that allows you to carry mags on your sides, around ~$123

http://ferroconcepts.com/products/the-slickster

If you want webbing, Shellback/TAG should have a carrier or two for around $100 also

https://www.tacticalassaultgearstore.com

>>28342600
(Not him)
Why a slick carrier? What does it have over a normal molle'd one except maybe be .3mm slimmer?

>>28341853
memepat

faggotcam

>>28342650
/k/ typically does not recommend a slick.
Figure out what you need to carry on the carrier, then find the best one that can fit it. for me that be a bladder bag, 3 magazines, and an Ifak on my right side.
I bought a JPC because it has kangaroos for mags (i use a dtandard shingle but same deal) and it has molle on the back for my lbt bladder pouch. The ifak rides on the cummerbund.
Placcards are cool in concept but theyre needles bulky, just like a layered chest rig. That shit shifts around.
/k/ might recommend slicks for a cheapo option since most quality brands make some slick for ~$100, but a dedciated PC is better

What's a good, durable pair of gloves for under $100?

>>28342219

If you're not in a job where getting shot is a normal assumed risk don't waste your money on plate carriers and stick to just a rig. I personally shill http://www.kommandostore.com/by-country/south-africa/south-african-defense-force-pattern-83-chest-rig.html

Take the money you saved and put it towards ammo and personal development.

If you do work such a job here you go http://www.skdtac.com/FirstSpear-The-Slick-x2122-Ultralight-Plate-Car-p/fsr.521.htm

>>28342650

It's way more adaptive and flexible.

I have all my shit on a dedicated pc because I want to put one thing on and be good to go but this also means that I'm relatively restricted as if I want to switch to a more discreet kit, or drop the excess because I'm going to be in a turret, or switch from a 5.56 kit to a 7.62 kit, etc I need to have the time and opportunity to take my pc off, remove what I don't want, add what I do want, and don it again.

Slick + rig(s) means each item can be worn separately or together and any changes to the rig can be made in seconds instead of minutes and without reducing protective posture as the slick need not be removed.

If you always stay in a very tight and specific lane there is nothing wrong with a dedicated pc but if you're military you will definitely want the option to drop gear while mounted actions.

>>28342691
Cheers! If i may; You say you have 3 mags upfront and I see this quite a lot, what's the reasoning behind this, is it a range thing, that's just what's comfy? How much would you say is good for combat? I'm talking about full on battles, Syrian civil war style?

And belts with soft armour, worth it?

Sorry for pouncing on you with questions <3

>>28342834

Go to your nearest hardware store and pick a pair out that are less than $30. Mechanix is a popular choice.

>>28342848
Not him but for me I carry four mags on my rig and one in my gun. Mostly a range thing because I don't plan to be in any extended fights and I find that weight very manageable.
I go with four because I've had an exmil buddy tell me a general rule is a soldier can fight back to a resupply or evac with three mags at a minimum.
So I have my three+one on my rig, the plus one for reloads or if I have a malfunction where I need to abandon the in gun mag. My thought process is if I can't solve a problem in 60 shots by myself it shouldn't be a problem I am willingly taking on.

As for going to war many Vets will swear by the six minimum on their gear, though I have heard and seen photos of troops with many more, I've had a buddy tell me he carried 12 mags which seems a bit excessive but I have never served so who am I to say.
Armored belts for me seem a bit unnecessary, but that is with my thought mentality, I even think plates are pushing necessary for me but that doesn't mean I don't want them and probably wont get them.
The belt seems a bit useless to me because it covers such a smaller and less vital area than a plate would. Also I'm not much of a fan of soft armor, unless if fits in your job I suppose like a LEO or armored car operator and I can't really see them wearing a battle belt unless there are others I'm unaware of.

shit faced as I type this so excuse any errors hope it helps, hopefully someone more sober and knowledgeable can chime in.

>>28342848

Not him but
>3 mags upfront and I see this quite a lot, what's the reasoning behind this
It weighs less and is slimmer which allows for a lower position when firing in the prone.
It also means that if the person finds themselves in a protracted engagement they should withdraw for fear of running out of ammo and that their ability to provide suppressing fire necessary for effective fire and maneuver is limited.

>How much would you say is good for combat?
6+1 is a basic military combat load. When heavy contact is anticipated 1.5-2x that is not unheard of alongside contico boxes/milk crates of loaded mags in vehicles or static positions.

>>28342961
>implying I only carry 3 mags

>>28342848
my three other mags are on my belt, for a total of seven. I cant weigh in on soft armor in a belt but it would do a better job at protecting you lower back and kidneys.

>>28342836
>thinks he will be changing rifles on the fly

Just have a dedicated vest/rig for .308 and a dedicated PC for 5.56. easy peasy. As for shedding excess shit, get a belt

>>28342961
oh and in regards to a prolonged fire fight: I dont have those, I live in a farm house in Illinois. My "grab and go" is a BFG with 4 mags and an Ifak. It is there if I need to deal with some shit around my house.

You nerds all still playing dress up?

Thanks guys!

>>28343009
>You nerds all still playing dress up?

You aren't ?

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What are some good tactical pants brands? I got 5.11s and they ripped within the week, I walked a total of maybe 4 miles in them while on duty and the mace can and flashlight I kept in the cargo pockets started wearing holes through them. A buddy also said his ripped the first time he fell in them. These obviously are cosplay pants and can't hold up to real use worth a shit but I don't know of any other options.

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is this high speed high drag enough?

>>28343316
I bet you're a filthy secondary.

>>28343315
Bullshit. I've worn the same 5.11s everyday for 2 years, used every pair from EDW to hiking to heavy innawoods, and they are still in tact everywhere. You probably got yours a size too tight. 5.11 Taclite Pros are excellent pants.

>>28343348
They don't use universal sizing for some reason, and the waist sizes were small medium and large. I got small which was advertised as 27"-31", which should have been ok since I'm a size 29-30, but the straps were so tight they stayed at a size 27... Why they do this idk, seems fucking retarded. Universal sizing is universal for a reason.

But anyway I cut the straps so they stayed at a size 35+ with no retention on the waist other than what my belt provided, that probably wasn't the issue. Try actually doing things in them, fatty. I'm willing to wager that material won't hold up if your knees touch the ground more than a few times, it couldn't even hold up a 1.8oz can of mace...

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What are some good winter Oper8n trousers? Lightweight summer stuff I got down, but I don't know what'll work for winter short of milsurp ECW stuff which is probably a little overkill. Anyone have any suggestions?

>>28343394
>the waist sizes were small medium and large
You bought fake 5.11s, they aren't sized like that.

>>28343394
>I cut the straps
And what straps are you talking about? Those don't sound like TacLite Pros at all. Take a picture of the pants.

>>28343394
You got some bootleg 511 pants, bro. Hope you didn't pay too much for them.

Here is the sizing on their website. Like most American mens clothing makers, they use measured waist sizes:

http://www.511tactical.com/taclite-pro-pants.html

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>>28343009
>He doesn't play dress up

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Is Z-Pak Dressing the same as QuickClot Combat Gauze? Or is it just a gauze without the clotting agent?

Also CAT, SOF or SWAT Tourniquet and why?

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>"I only use Crye and Arcteryx"
*tip beanie*

>>28343316
No, it's not, it's low speed as fuck

>>28343987
Nice man, love the OG obscure european Crye sets, definitely brings out the special snowflake aesthetic. Very understated considering they actually cost more than AOR1 NCs

>>28342247
>AKA2 Mount

Where the fuck can I get one of these in the 220-250 Range, FUCK

>>28343419
Taclite TDU's, I can't wear taclite pros at work with those diagonal pockets I'll look like a moron, and they're sized like that on multiple sites.

>>28343412
>>28343469
I suspected they were knockoffs, but the retailer is legit (tacticalgear). Already got a refund sans shipping costs. They used to size them how I described, they switched because rightfully everyone complained.

Still no one has thrown out some other brands. I'm about to go full Dickies at this point...

>>28343329
i dont know what that means

>>28344054
thanks

>>28343316
where did you get those outfits and hats

>>28344082
I'm accusing you of not actually playing Touhou games or knowing any of the lore but instead just dressing up as one of the characters because you want attention on the internet.

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>>28344064
Yeah, really happy they made them in N-Kamo, sadly they made like two batches, they arent planing on making any more at the moment.

Really want to get the G3 all weather field pants and shirt in either Ranger Green or Multicam. Most likely multicam

>>28344117
I have a pair of the All Weather Combat Pants in Ranger Green. They are the best thing ever, I highly recommend them, even at the 310$ pricetag

I'm sure that doesn't really bother you since you have a 700$ LEAF Alpha though, heh

>>28340283
I have a chest rig for my ak, but now that I'm building one for my AR I need one for that too since the AK one doesn't fit AR mags well. Recommendations?

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>>28344116
is it still secondary if i watched the fanime, jack off to the cartoons, post them on 4chin?

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>>28344093
ebay

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S&S plate frame, or Crye Airlite?

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>>28344307

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ITT we laugh at how skinny I am

>>28344330
>carabiner to put your gloves in

why did i never think of this

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>>28344161
Ranger Green would be nice, it's also more "acceptable" in civilian use.

I might also invest in a firstspear siege-r optimized, plate carrier. But I'll have to decide if I'm going for ranger green or multicam, depends on what set of crye I get.

>>28344330
>ITT we laugh at how skinny I am

>being this self conscious

You look good bae

>>28344354
thats basic white girl operator 101 right there

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>>28344295
Yes.

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>>28344380
sucks for you then

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>>28344354
Carabiner is always nice to have on your vest. I have one on mine, on the left shoulder. If you have a ring on your weapon's rails, you can attach it to the vest for long patrols, skiing, etc.

>>28344330
Nice gear and set up, mirin' man.

What's a decent drop leg? Is a blackhawk omega drop leg worth $30 more than a condor one? Or should I spring a bit more for a spec ops one?

>>28344079
>Taclite TDU
Well there's your problem. Might as well go Dickies if you're anal about TacLite Pros.
Try TruSpec 247s

>>28344508
>dropleg
>decent
Have you ever worn gear longer than 20 minutes to take bathroom selfies in?

>>28344307
S&S

Airlite is cool, but it's not different enough from a JPC to be honest.

>>28344360
Yeah, trust me, if you buy these you are going to want to wear them all the time. Being Ranger Green, pretty much no one is going to look twice at them, at least in the city

>>28344676
BoS spotted

>>28344508
G-Code or G-Home

>>28344676
I have ceramic level IV plates, and a set of SAPI plates. I'm leaning towards the SAPI as they are lighter and this is for SHTF where I doubt if I will encounter threats using AP. Do the SAPI's need kevlar behind them to be effective, and do they break as easily as everyone says?

>>28344868
SAPI's are ceramic
yes you need backing on them
no don't be throwing them like frisbees and you'll be fine

>>28344269
help

>>28344874

HSGI tacos fit both mag types. :)

>>28344868
>>28344872
SAPIs do need kevlar backing to be the most effective. ESAPIs are standalone.

>>28344868

I use III+ ceramic plates, weight 4.5 pounds.

>>28344874
I like the Warrior Pathfinder. Its like the HSP D3CR but less gay and more ammo

>>28344868
Don't listen to >>28344898
3+ =/= 4

>>28344905

you're never going to be shot at with AP rounds bro

>>28344891
I already have the AK rig though.
>>28344899
I'll check it out

>>28344911
What makes you so sure? You never know what you need until you need it, and by then it's too late. Get the best protection available and stop cutting corners with your life.

>>28344920

I'd rather save 10 pounds off my kit to prepare for realistic threats

>>28344928
>I'd rather cut corners preparing for a situation where I could possibly die
Good on you, but don't think everyone else values their life as little as you value yours.

>>28344954

kek

Are there any differences between the MICH 2000's of different manufacturers? Anyone have any second hand buying advice? Thanks

>>28344928
Also, Medium ESAPIs weigh 1lb more than your shitty 3+. If you can't handle 2 extra pounds for much better protection you probably have more problems to worry about first, like fitting into a plate carrier that doesn't require that much material to make it weigh 10 lbs like you claim.

>>28345059
Buy an Ops Core... MICH 2001s made by revision are more or less the same spec as the old MSA ones, but they are heavy as shit compared to Ops Cores. I'm not an Ops Core fanboy at all, but for the money, you're just better off buying an OC.

>>28342990
>implying I only carry 3 mags
There's nothing wrong if you did and many people do, don't get defensive.

>>28343001

>thinks he will be changing rifles on the fly
I have gone from mounted operations, to an extended foot patrol, to shifting between 5.56 and 7.62 in a single day. This was made very convenient for me by slick + rig. It's okay if you haven't.

>>28343007

>oh and in regards to a prolonged fire fight: I dont have those
I presumed that already but okay.

>>28345209
Ok cool thanks, is there a way I can get them on the other side of the pond? I assume they're ITAR registered like plates

>>28345209
>>28345352
Hang on, HOW MUCH??

I know I said I wasn't wearing camo anymore, but I'm going to buy some surplus multicam goretex for the rate rain and as an outer cold weather shell.

$160 for a top and bottom online, and about to check prices at a local surplus store.

>>28345209
team wendy's exfil is probably the best option now a days. it just won the ADF contract

>>28345074

sorry sempai but I'm quite comfortable with these specs http://bulletproofme.com/RP-Level-3-PLUS-Ceramic.html light infantry is all about staying light... I have the full level 4 compliment including side plates and the whole thing at 30 odd pounds is only suitable for convoy duty which I will unlikely ever have a requirement for.

>>28345729
>light infantry
>light
POG or never served.

>>28345632
Yeah, I guess.. Ops Core High Cut, Airframe and Exfil Ballistic are all in the same general price range. I would probably buy an Airframe out of that lot.

I really don't see a reason to buy an EXFIL, they are pretty niche and don't have as much component support. They are also not incredibly light at 2.6 pounds, compared to 2.3 for the Airframe and 2.64 for the Ops Core (Taking these from TNVC btw). EXFILs come with railz and shroud standard though

Actually, with the fantastic Cam Fit and Zorbium pads, the EXFIL is a lot more appealing... You're really only paying maybe 600$ for the shell, all the add ons make the extra 350-ish dollars.

If I bought an Airframe and put a Cam Fit, Zorbiums, Crye Cover, Crye Rails, and a Norotos Universal Shroud, it would cost about 1400$

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>>28345800
well there is a reason the ADF is replacing their airframes with them

>>28345742

yes since joining the military is a waste of time and earning potential, no thanks.

>>28345838
I still like the way air frames look tho

>>28345960
So thanks for confirming you have no clue what you're talking about when it comes to gear and its use.

>>28346017

if you think military "training" to know how to use gear you are retarded. stay there plz.

i have a question, does any body know where i can get a good vest or chest rig in woodland camo.
im a bit of a fashion diva with my gear and it as to all be the same for each set

>>28346039
It sure gives you perspective when you actually use it for extended periods of time in real situations. Not my fault you want to use shit gear.

>>28346055

like most americans, my threat model in order consists of: drunks, nignogs: spics, rogue leo's, and terror attacks. if I'm lucky I'll never have to use my gear for extended periods of time.

>>28346212
It's still no reason to be shilling shit gear and spreading bad information.

>>28346232

it's not shitty gear or bad info. it's state of the art, sorry that wasn't around during your indoc.

>>28346244
>less protection is state of the art
You realize 3 and 3+ aren't standalone plates right? Only level 4 is. Leave the operating to the guys who actually know something.

>>28346212
what about specific areas? my area is rife with hunters so my threat of 30-06 is much higher than a city dweller

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can ceramic plates stop knives?

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>>28343966
Those dubs demand a fucking answer /k/

>>28341993
Skeletor where did you get your Philanthropy patch? I've been looking everywhere and I can't find one.

>>28346047
last week I ordered a 6094 in woodland from LBT during their christmas sale, I called today and they said they still had some available.
hsgi also has some woodland gear.

>>28346274

you continue to post out of date info. have phun with your life mate.

>>28346274

check if 30.06 exceeds the .308 rating or http://www.bulletproofme.com/RP-Level-3-PLUS-Ceramic.html

>>28344072
I got mine with the universal mount on ebay for that much.

Now I have to sell two house for sentinels instead of just one for PVS-14s

now that i have new plates coming, my slick won't fit them, and i want a molle carrier. I can get a .mil discount, so what do you guys recommend? i was looking at the skd sohpc, especially since that site is having a storewide sale right now.

>>28347328
Heh.

Have you used any wilcox mounts to compare it to? I haven't had a chance to dick with an AKA2, but I have heard they are at least on par with L4 G24 mounts.

I love my universal shroud. I wouldn't mind buying a complete AKA2+NUS set if I could get a good price.

>>28346842
Yes.

>>28347355
Crye JPC

>>28347355
First Spear, Ferro, and Crye are too tier.
LBT and Mayflower and right there with them, just no innovation.

>>28347355
how about buying plates that fit your PC? but i know i know.. you're just looking for a reason to buy a new PC.. it's ok.

>>28347375
JPC looks very minimalist.
>>28347377
probably should of been more specific
>keep it around $200,
>if I can get a .mil discount, even better
>needs to take side plates
>I have zero intention of strapping shit to my back.

>>28347451
my current pc is a pig brig. Slick, minimalist. it will only fit sapi mediums. I jumped on that $200 armor wear deal for two 10x12 plates. Esapi mediums would of costed me $240 minimum each.

>>28347498
JPC. Its great.

>>28347013
scifigeeks.com
though not sure if they're stil working.

So I'm thinking about buying the SOUTH AFRICAN DEFENSE FORCE PATTERN 83 CHEST RIG, from the Kommando store, can anyone tell me whether or not i need a universal or 30rd only version, i plan on using it for my Wasr 10

>>28347498
I saw that those armorwear plates were shooter's cut. any idea if those will fit in carriers designed for standard medium plates?

Hey guys do you think this
http://www.kommandostore.com/south-african-defense-force-pattern-83-chest-rig.html

would look good with German Flecktarn gear????

>>28344295
That's the very definition of a secondary. I don't care as long as you don't pretend to know shit about 2hu.

I like your dress though

>>28344317
get a JPC. the airlight has straps on interior side of the carrier for plate support. that shit would bind on everything.
plate frames are mall ninja that are not compatable with anything

does this look like it would be a quailty thing? i really want a flecktarn chest rig and i like this pattern

>>28348512
http://www.ebay.com/itm/South-African-Army-Tactical-Assault-Combat-Vest-Adjustable-BW-Flecktarn-Camo-/271820225965?hash=item3f49bf7dad:g:6VoAAOSwNSxVFW6X


sorry forgot to post link

Why does it look like the d3-h has one less pouch than the standard d3

>>28342272
>>28342600
>>28342836
Hey these look like a great place to start, thanks guys!

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>>28344354
holy fuck I never realised

>>28348532
they took out the stuff it.

>>28348716
Mad weak. Do you think its still worth picking up or go with something else

Is the tacprogear rapid assault vest that comes with the armourwear $250 plate set any good or is it eventually going to get replaced?

>>28348880
I meant to say, is it something that I'm going to want to replace because it's junk/air soft tier? Also, I presume the plates and price are a good value? The one mcnigg posted

>>28348763
I think so, at least if you have 7.62x51 mags to put into it

>>28347664
As I understand it the 30rd version is for 30rd and more mags. If you have 10 or 20rd magazines you'll need the universal

>>28348905
I picked a scar 17 and am looking for a chest rig. The d3 caught my eye, just with I could get it in ranger green instead of coyote.

>>28348880
>>28348902
it's junk. save the $50 and get the low-vis.

>>28343315
>I got 5.11s and they ripped within the week

i have been wearing 5.11 for like 5 years and my first pair are still wearable and only have one hole in the knee that hasn't even gone all the way through. what the fuck are you doing that you ripped your pants?

Any reason I shouldn't grab a Mayflower APC? Superior products in the same price range, ect.

>>28349118
it's solid, buy it and get legit sapi plates for it.

>>28349124
That's the plan, thanks

>>28343315
http://www.kuhl.com/kuhl/mens/pants/revolvr-lean/

Had good luck with these and anything else from their company.

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So, looked again did research. Looking at 4 plate carriers the intended use being training in my personal time and with my guard unit, as personal armor is authorized. But that means it needs to have enough room to carry 6 magazines, 2 grenade, 1 flash, at least 1 canteen, and one medical pouch.
It also needs to fit medium sapis and 10x12 plates, as my trainers and issued plates are med., and my standalones coming in the mail are 10x12
Cyre JPC
>most expensive choice
>lightweight and minimalist choice.
>lots of you guys like it
>6 week waiting period
>do I really want to throw all that shit on the jpc
>might not fit the 10x12
Mayflower APC
>second most expensive
>super popular
>has that velcro and buckle swift attachment shit I don't want or dont think I want
>might not fit mediums and 10x12
First Spear STT
>Innovative attachment system means no Velcro
>the 6 12 tubes thing looks like a cool mounting system
>has the skd spec that means pontoon compatible, properly placed plates
>will work with med and 10x12
>people say the attachment system digs in to their shoulder when they shoulder a rifle.
Paraclete SOHPC
>cheapest
>side plates
>25% less webbing weight
>fits 10x12 and mediums.
>older design
>missing features like a kangaroo pouch, not super padded
>also skd speced


Pic is current pc, a pig brig.

>>28350117
You can get a Crye JPC for 240 on ebay.... There's also no waiting period, it's a generic disclaimer they put

10x12 SQUARE plates? That's fuckhuge, you're wasting your time trying to find one that fits both, just give up on that

>>28350256
Swimmers cut guy. Sapis arent 9.6x11.3 squares either. It's a diffence of .4 Width and .7 length

How are Eagle plate carriers?

Buddy gave me one with a bunch of random pouches for it.

>>28350763

They're okay; neither good nor bad, just average.

>>28347960
flandre and nofunsma talked about touhou at nuggetfest for like 30 minutes and i just stood there holding my gun like a cuck because i didnt know what was going on

7/10 would listen again

>>28350763
Eagle PCs are made extremely well. Which one did you get?

>>28350788
You should check them out sometime. The games or the print works, I know not everyone likes shumps though.

You can get them at moriyashrine

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>>28350797
You tell me.

He also gave me this helmet, looks like a MITCH with a Norotos mount.

>>28341140
almost did, had to choose between rent or a brand new in box gen2+ pvs7 for $600

i get depressed about it

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>>28350876
>cyclops vision
Be glad you missed it.

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>>28350869
Scalable Plate Carrier. Nice. I like mine, it just fits like an armor carrier more than a PC. How's it feel getting into gearfagging?

>>28350869
>Boof is getting into gearfagging
we are truly blessed this day

>>28350869
Does yours have kevlar sewn in? And do you plan on getting plates for it?

>>28350945
I can already tell it's a slippery fucking slope. Doesn't help that the guy who gave it to me has pretty much anything I'd ever want available for sale.

I bought two PEQ-2's, a PEQ-15, two PVS-14's, three IR beacons and four eotechs from him. He gave me these as a thanks.

Hell, he sent me a text a few days ago saying he may be getting his hands on a fucking pair of GPNVG-18's.

>>28350993
It's got kevlar.

He threw in two contoured AR500 plates.

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>>28351021

Mfw boof ends up in jail like the horta.

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>>28351021
Holy shit. Plan on selling a set?
>slippery fucking slope
You're right about that. Your kit is never complete, EVER, even when you think it is.

>>28351042
>AR500
Boof I really don't want you to get ventilated, we can't afford to lose you. Are you gonna get ceramics eventually?

>>28351072
who? why is he in jail?

>>28351077
A set of GPNVG's? Maybe if I can get more than one pair.

I'd maybe sell one of the PEQ's and an eotech or two. The two PVS's are for coupling on my norotos mount.

What's wrong with AR500? I thought it was pretty good.

I can't imagine ceramics would work well for me. I need something that wont be compromised because I keep dropping it/tripping and falling on it.

I'm about to order these. Any last "dont do it!!"s before I do? I'm going off of the guidance here; just starting to get into a PC/IFAK kit from just a battle belt. (5'9 170lbs; the 10x12 going to fit fine?)

>>28348880
>me

>>28351121
AR500 can get penetrated by 5.56 M193 and common hunting rounds. Whereas ceramics are good up to and including AP 5.56 and AP .30-06.

Ceramics are quite durable. It's mainly dropping them on the corners you have to not do.

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>>28351116

Let's just say he acquired one too many good deals from a buddy and it finally caught up to him. Then again, posting your stollen $80K EOD iRobot on the internet take a special kind of stupid.

>>28351121
>GPNVG
Too rich for my blood. I'm saving up for a set of PVS14s or 7s as it is now, then I'll need to get a PEQ box.

>What's wrong with AR500?
>defeated by common 5.56 rounds
>shrapnel creating preventable injuries
>spalling cover won't save you, it will fall completely off
>weight
>only level 3

Ceramics aren't sensitive as most people would have you think. You can drop to the prone and fall on your back in them repeatedly and they'll be fine. As long as you don't drop them on the corners, which I know for a fact you have the hand-eye coordination not to, they're fine. The military wouldn't be issued ceramics if they were that weak.

>>28351215
i would really like to own some of that stuff and not have to sell everything i own but i don't think it is worth receiving stolen property

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>>28351247

That's just a small sample, you can google for more pics and the news reports. Dude was a big poster on arfcom until he suddenly disappeared and people pieced it all together. Here, have some throwbots.

>>28351271
Looks like someones ready to play rainbow 6

>>28341140
what state are you in? it looks like my state.

>>28351420
It looks like over half the states in the Union you dingus.

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>>28351216
I bought armor on your recommendation, now what about the plate carrier? I posted a long ass compilation of today's research higher in the thread, but it is probably tldr
>>28350117

>>28351141
Measure from nipple to nipple. How far is that distance? A properly sized plate should cover that. Here's a pic of a sapi medium (trainer plate, obviously) compared to me.

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>>28351613
I have no experience with any of those carriers, The closest I would have is the Mayflower APC, I have the Velocity LWPC which is pretty much the same carrier without MOLLE and shoulder pads. Do you have local stores that sell plate carriers? I usually try that first to get a feel of how it will fit, how the material feels, etc before I buy it. But going off your list I'd say the APC is the way to go.

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must loose NEET fatbody status

>but manlet status is for life

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>>28344161
Are they that much better than the g3 combat pants?

>>28351759
>fatbody
You fuggin wot. You just need some protein and some heavy metal objects Toebro.

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I am considering making a 4th gearfag infographic and will listen to any suggestions you have.

>>28351759
>manlet
Natural +2 to lifting right there.

>>28351793
>gorka 3

4 or bust faggot.

>>28344330
I'm 'mirin' at ya'. What rig is that?

>>28351849
What hasn't been covered in the 3? Maybe gear/pouch placement? Comms?

>>28351849
>I am considering making a 4th gearfag infographic and will listen to any suggestions you have.
Break it out by focus, at least a little. Like "muh every american a rifleman" gear, "I wish I was an 11b" gear, "greyman" gear, etc. Basically mission-based suggestions.

I didn't see the last three, though, so maybe that's exactly how they're organized.

>>28351849
What admin pouch is that?

>>28351876
looks like a clone of an Eagle RRV

>>28351865
What is the difference?

>>28351893
MSM

>>28351849
I think load amount would be a good idea.
If I go a reread your old infographics, I think you suggested 6+1 primary, 2+1 secondary. But that doesn't apply to all people.
A discussion of different loads for different mission types maybe
Infantry patrol load
Assaulter's load
HD set up
Active shooter

You could talk about different types of clothing
Combat boots vs hiking mids vs tennis shoes
Bdus vs Acus vs 5/11 vs Cyre vs Blue jeans
Layer properly for cold weather
Combat shirts vs blouses vs tees vs underarmor performance stuff

You could talk about not gear stuff and discuss ar15 styles if you were comfortable with that. It's a project I was considering for the /arg/ tripfags to work together on. An infographic of various ar15 builds for different POUs.

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if i wasnt a peasnt, id be gear queer as fuck. but for now....i utilize pockets.

>>28352027
Disgusting. At least get a chicom rig or something, you're an embarrassment to your lineage.

>>28351849
>I am considering making a 4th gearfag infographic and will listen to any suggestions you have.

weapon peripherals
>lights
>lasers
>grips
>nvgs


or foot wear/knee pads

>>28349141
Thats hot

>>28352074
thnx bbi

>>28352027
Dude you can get a milsurp lbv for like $30 with a bunch of pouches

>>28351613
Why is there a hole right where your broncheal tube are?

>>28352135
training plate

>>28352135
to reward skilled enemy snipers

>>28352135
Secret weak spot.

>>28351759
what chest rig is that?

>>28351849
Misc gear would be helpful I think. Gloves, kneepads, goggles, lights, multitool ect. The other ones hit the big points and I think how someone sets up their rifle could be answered better elsewhere so other things that people generally use could be useful

>>28352135
I have a rare birth defect that basically left a hollow iny upper chest. I've modified my armor to not block bullets but to deflect and direct fire into that funnel, where it passes straight through my system and out the back (back plate has a hole too) so that while it punctures the skin, it skips all of my vitals and arteries. (Spine too, I have a vertebrae there that splits in half.

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>>28352210

>>28352160
>>28352174
Goddamnit. Better than my explanation.

>>28352195
I sorta agree. I just think this stuff is a big point to
Shirt pants boots, ppe like eyepro and kneepads, this stuff matters.

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>>28352226
Or that I'm secretly a hollow?

>>28352046
fuck up faggot. i shoot weaklings waddling around with 50 pounds of gear in the face because i think theyre federals. then i run away and my mags fall out my back pocket.

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>>28352185
Tactical tailor 1 piece MAV

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>MAH!
>MAHHH! SHUT UP AND TAKE THE PICTURE

>>28351865
flavors of the day friend

>>28351923
gorka 3 was in pic
gorka 4 is a pull over.

>>28351849
How membrane boots take an eon to dry as opposed to boots without membranes.

>>28352480
is that the only difference being button up vs pull over?

>>28352382
dat d3

also, isnt it weird to be looking through your optic, but the NVG not looking at the target?

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I appreciate all the suggestions. I'm steering clear of load outs because I feel that it would be getting away from the basics I've tried to stick to and that it also gets cosplay-ish. Plenty of blogs and websites out there with big lists of, "Every X should have these." I will strongly consider discussing accessories. I have also been considering discussing training, fitness, and dedicated plate carrier versus slick and rig.

>>28351887

I cover placement in guide 102 and comms info already exists albeit in commo threads.

>>28351893

MSM

>>28352017

>I think you suggested 6+1 primary, 2+1 secondary. But that doesn't apply to all people.
For primary I state that one should carry as much as they need to ensure that they don't run empty and their physical abilities. Whether that's just 1+1 or 12+1 is on them. I will say for secondary I would not recommend having more than 2+1. If you can carry more than 2+1 secondary mags you should be carrying more primary mags or just saving the weight, period.

Look forward to seeing any /arg/ info produced.

>>28352060

>foot wear
LOWA Zephyrs for boots and Merrell for shoes.

>>28352355
thanks famiglia

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I just got this, did I do good?

>>28352563

the PVS-14 has a pretty large FOV, and I'm not looking square through the optic since it is parallax free.

>>28352627
Were you born a nigger or do you like to pretend to be one?

>>28352685
You sound like a fucking idiot.

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>>28352549
The gorka 4 has different pocket placement

>>28352627

Shoulder straps look really thin so I would be concerned about them cutting into your shoulders.

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Shooting gear pic.

MidwayUSA makes a real nice shooting mat.

>>28352801
it looks like it only has a front pocket added extra than the 3, which would be covered by armor anyway. I plan to get a 4 to keep my 3 company anyway though, i like the 4 color scheme.

>>28352627
Well, if that's really a plate carrier, that front plate sits real fucking low. Hilariously so.
See here >>28351613
But it really looks like a chest rig. Makes me confused just looking at it.

>>28352627
COD4 called. They want their PC back

Get the 22 dollar shoulder pad and adjust it so you armor isn't around your gut.

>>28352925
If I remove that mat will you die?

>>28352994

It would be very painful

>>28352957
who's the manufacturer?

>>28352617
>training, fitness,
I think you need to decide if you want to keep going with gear queer infographics, or expand to other environments, because while those topics are important for anyone who actually USES gear, they're starting to get off topic, and "stray from the basics" as you said.

That being said, I'd like to see on this board is more discussion of training and fitness as there both of interest to me, but I think it could easily lead to one upman ship and chair bound Travis Haleys.

If you do pc, chest rigs, slicks n' shit, don't forgot to talk about battle belts and subloads. Subloads may be situational or maybe just dumb, but just like surplus steel helmets and crappy drop legs holsters, you should include them.

>>28353045
I personally have an AVTOR or aviator one, which i quite like and it is solid. Ill probably get a SPOSN gorka D and either a SPOSN 4 or BARS 4

>>28353009
>not extremely
CAN YOU EVEN MEME?
For me? Can you meme properly for me?

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>>28352627
no faggot. enjoy your being mistaken for a fed and shot in the dick goals of 2016 and beyond. i would laugh my ass off if the happening occurred and all i saw was basement dwellers rise from their burrows in full multicam with helmets and plate carriers. all walking around by themselves because theyre too autistic to realize they look like massive retards.
meanwhile bubba is in his treestand in his winter fleece talking to cletus on a walkie talkie.
looks through binoculars
>"hey cletus it looks like we've got another spastic walking around with 300 rounds of ammo by himself"
>"really bubba? another one of those?"
>"yeah cletus, im gonna shoot him. we cant trust those type of guys"
>puts down binoculars and shoulders remington 700
>squeezes off a 30-06 softpoint aiming for gear queers waist
>misjudged distance by 70 yards
>hits gear queer in his dick and blows his penis out the back off his asshole
>gear queer on the ground bleeding out
>last words "those were crye precision pants you pleb"

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>>28353085

Just close enough to trigger your ass burgers.

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>>28353064

>they're starting to get off topic, and "stray from the basics" as you said.
I get what you're saying but I personally feel that training and fitness are basics of gear and that discussing them reflects my guides' intent at being directed at those who want to actually use their gear. If I do a write-up I'll definitely orient the focus of either to revolve around gear and not just be the /fit/ sticky or whatever.

>subloads
I'll definitely keep them in mind.

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>>28351849
I've been neglecting thread because of work

Talk about clothing. Boots, pants, gussets, proper layering (for cold fags) proper boots, socks.

Make an info graph and think about the first private you taught.

>>28353079
>AVTOR
Never owned or had one of their gorkas

I've owned and sold BARS gorka: 3&4. SPOSN gorka:D,C,P dpm. splav gorka 3 and anorak 2.

in the picture I'm wearing a bars knock-off I had a friend pick up for $15

>>28353587
Do you live in russia?

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D3 is a great, lightweight chest rig.

>>28353130
Fuckin kek.

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>>28353611
nah, I just had access to a goldmine when the ruble decided to shit itself last year.
I bought a metric ton of slavshit to later flip in the US market.

>>28353663
Nice! GG

>>28353130
Does anyone here seriously, unironically believe that s will ever htf to the point feds will be getting shot by random citizenry to such a point that OCers and gearqueers will actually be at risk?

>>28353644
Should I get the d3h? How useful is the stuff it pouch

>>28353587
How did you like the SPOSN D? I dont like the color of it but the waterproofing is attractive...

What do you think of BARS vs SPOSN? Any recommendations for my next gorka buy? Ill probably get a VKBO goretex suit as well. any gorka tips?

What are some of the best AKM mag pouches?

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>>28353692
yes. and operators will be dressed like plebs and plebs will be dressed like operators. gearception.

how do you pronounce Crye?

>>28354180
cur-yee

>>28348763
yes! the stuffit and the GPs being uselessly small were the weakest points of the D3cr

>>28348941
I use a MAV with regular pouches.
Chest rigs are shit if you re not using it over a plate carrier.
people are gonna argue that but its true. putting them on is more difficult, tightening them is more difficult, taking them off is more difficult. split fronts are better, I prefer the MAV. SOE 7.62 split front is another great one

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>>28353994
Even with the opsec you can still tell this faggot has a shitty chechen beard.

>>28351215
mein gott

>>28353644
what is in the pocuhes?

>>28354529
>>28354545
I'm pretty convinced I'd like a chest rig, I might buy a PC down the road but I'm not feeling it right now. The two things I'm looking at now are the d3-h with their backpack or a TT 2 piece MAV with/without the x harness

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>>28353754
>How did you like the SPOSN D?
I liked the pocket layout and the extra features.

this guys shows them off well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xINkAuK8-oY

>I dont like the color of it but the waterproofing is attractive...
Sposn are goofballs with color I've recieved gorka- Ds in canvas and coyote, and canvas and khaki.

I doesn't seam any more waterproof than the other gorkas on the market.
>What do you think of BARS vs SPOSN?
in the case for gorka 4 model?
SPOSN GORKA-C =\=BARS GORKA 4
I like the fact that sposn's front pocket that raps around the front isn't sewed off to be two separate pockets.
I run my webbing or pack belt through the pocket so I can still use it.

it all depends on you how you use your kit, both are pretty solid.
gorka E is was seams to be pissed on the most.


Any recommendations for my next gorka buy?
it's all up to you man, but take a look into splav's gorka 3 they're pretty rad.

Ill probably get a VKBO goretex suit as well.
I just go the cheap route since waterproofs get BTFO quick.

any gorka tips?
layering correctly makes the gorka one versatile piece of kit.
I use it as a windproof.
wash carefully.

if i get an M83 sadf rig that is just the standard 30 rounder, it will fit standard ak mags right? im sorry that im dumb, just don't want to waste money and time

>>28354670
I own the mav with harness and have owned a D3cr. ask away

>>28354720
It says on the product page, fuck face

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>>28354720
the chest rig or battle suit?
either way the suits were designed for the Galil mag, but fit my AK74 mags and AR mags fine, and NE says they tested 47 pattern mags (I assume since Museum Grade) in the rigs.

>>28354726
I'm assuming you like the MAV more since you still have it. Could you just do a quick pro con list for both? From what I've read they're both made well. I would probably end up setting the MAV up similar to the d3,any idea how much that would run me?

>>28354753
love the gear man, thanks i realized just now that it is explained on the bottom of the page, im sorry im so fucking dumb

>>28354773
the mav dosnt have shit you cant use on it like the D3. I think the heavy is an improvement, but chest rigs in general are shit imo.
Split fronts/MAV pros:
>easer to put on and adjust to your body
>dosnt have mandatory shit built in that serves no purpose
>distribute weight around the torso instead of hanging off your belly
>the x harness allows you to attach a bladder pouch
cons:
>maybe more costly?

chest rigs/ D3CRH pros:
>takes up less space when stored
>is a huge improvement over the D3CR

cons:
>straps are extremely difficult to adjust

>>28354884
as for what to put on a MAV:

>mag pouches
I use Tactailor 20rnd .308
>dump pouch
TT dumper but the MagNet is the best dumper pocuh
>ifak
I prefer the BFG trauma for a full size ifak
>radio pouch
both TT options are good
>bladder bag
LBT for that
>large GP if you want it?

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>>28354707
thanks! pic of my gorka for your troubles. I'll look into either a black and kahki SPLAV gorka 3(or the same color gorka 4) or partizan SPLA gorka 3

>>28354905
>>28354884
Thanks man, I'll look more into the MAV before I drop any money.

What pouches didn't you use on the d3? Aren't there the 4 .308 pouches, 2 pistol pouches and 2 gp pouches. It seems easy enough to use all of those. Would be nice to have a radio or something though

>>28354947
ifak man!
if youre asking for airsoft It would probably be fine, but I aint wearing any of this stuff without an effective ifak. to fit all the items in a regular GI ifak on a D3cr you have to use both GPs and the stuff it.
For airsoft its probably fine. The reason I say the heavy is an improvement is because it has one large GP that I imagine can fit a full ifaks worth of shit.
as for the pistol mag pouches I dont use them. I dont consider a pistol at any time when I layout my vest/carriers/whatever. I would prefer to carry more ammo for a rifle instead.

where do you guys shop for your plates?

>>28351849
w2c that plate carrier?

>>28354982
Nah. I wasted some money on a scar so I figure I might as well go in feet first and buy some gear.
I like the d3 but not being able to have comms and an ifak on their does make me hesitant, I've been looking for better reviews than airsoft kids on YouTube but their hard to find. I'm going to have to do some more research on the MAV and what pouches I would need to pick up. Cost ain't a huge deal but I'm not that much of a baller

>>28355041
well get a mav and put the things ive mentioned on it. Ive own maxpedition, bfg, tt, and hsgi dump pouches, the Hsgi is the best.
Ive tried tacos, kywis, velcro, bungee, and fast mags, I like Kywis best for 5.56 and bungees for .308
Ive has hsgi bleeder and M3T, maxpedition, ITS, and BFG for Ifaks, the BFG is best by a large margin.
My lbt bladder pouch stays freezing cold for hours, no need to shop around for that one.

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>>28341333
>>28354753
>Skeletor
how do you look like in your everyday cloths?
gear is badass do you have as good of a /fa/ sense when it comes to everyday stuff?

I got myself this and thought of you
>houdini power houdi

super comfy and great for the range when you don't want to dress up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejvJRJ3eEFk

>>28351121
>>28351216
ar500 is fine. there are countless videos of people shooting those plates with multiple rounds of different 556 including ss109 and m855. People are just so in love with thier super awesome "oh but da military issues them so they have to be da best" ceramics that they just write ar500 armor plates off. Ya they're heavier but they're also waay cheaper.

i doubt these guys got paid to shoot this plate so you judge for yourself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRh6sf6LLtM

>>28351876
TAG Marine Gladiator Chest Rig. I actually just got this guy in a week ago or so and haven't gotten a real chance to use it yet. I really like it so far. 6 kangaroo mag pouches. Hydration carrier built in. It's a slick carrier so it is supposed to go over armor quite well. /k/ doesn't really talk about TAG too much bet from the research I've done they're solid. Not quite Squid tier or anything but as a civilian it suits my needs plenty. I got mine off of Amazon for $180.

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>>28341993
>only made for the military
So was this, and it was $60.

>>28355818
Gear noob here, what is that?

>>28355884
British Osprey body Armour, probably without plates

>>28355884
a britfag plate carrier

>>28355375
>ceramicfags listed actual reasons to support their claims
>ar500 fanboy doesn't, just proceeds to strawman and post one youtube video

You seem like the same fag that was getting BTFO earlier about muh3+ plates. Why would you ever settle for a lower protection rating? AR500 is shit and not worth the weight. Fuck off Jeremy.
>waay cheaper
You can now buy Level 4 ceramics for the same price at armour-wear.

>>28355157
>do you have as good of a /fa/ sense when it comes to everyday stuff?
not really, I wear jeans, merrels and either lululemon or arcteryx tops

>>28356038
kinda like me then.
btw what specs do you have on your SDP compact.

i was finger fucking one in a store but i did not like the hammer on that version.

>Krypton was sexy as fuck
>Halo sights

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>>28356081
SDP Compact with threaded barrel. they all have that kind of bobbed hammer
"krypton" but definitely Sand standard sights
I want some HALO sights badly though

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Poorfag here with WWII SS Italiana overcoat with nigger rig. I make use though. Works relatively well.

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Without overcoat/undershirt/niggerrig/Shemagh/etc.

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>>28356112
Told you before that i could get them for you if you really wanted them.

or you could mail, my local gunshop in sweden.
[email protected]

150 Canadian for the rear sight with tritium inserts
and 118 Canadian for front with tritium inserts

website is called DAE but i think its all in swedish

>>28356164
>posting airsoft on /k/

stop

>>28356164
Fuck off airshit

>>28356182
>>28356112
they got some options on the size of the front sight

>>28356182
whats your email?

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>>28356164
You are kind of dancing on the line between gearfag and Metro cosplay.

That said, how does that work for you? Would you be willing to walk through your rig for us?

>>28356220
it's airsoft

>>28356190
Airsoft?
uhhhhhh wat?
>>28356195
try again bb

>>28356231
show the bolt then

>>28356231
Your pic is so obviously airshit it hurts. Leave /k/ and never return.

>>28343966
Don't know about zpak, we phased out the powder quick clot shit awhile back bc of problems it was having in the field, if it's the powder stuff I'd advise against it.

>>28356231
we can see the fucking Phillips head screws and cheap plasticy sheen and you are like 12, mixing camo, wearing baseball catchers greaves, wearing a hottopic shemagh, snowboarding goggles, and have your shit strapped to you with a twisted up seat belt.

stop being an autistic faggot.

>>28356220
ok get ready for the amount of no money spent here
>Russian OMON Telnyashka
>surplus button down "olive drab" shirt
>LEGIONE SS ITALIANA OVERCOAT
>the pants in this picture arent my normal so skip those
>some belt that i exploit to secure my bag to and secure it with a carabiner.
>use old beats bag i found to hold medical on the fly equipment "antiseptics/gauze wraps"
>have this bag i made to hold extra shit, i just poked holes with my knife so i could put a sling on it.
>some 1960s umpire knee guard on my knee that i crouch with.
>Tight black ski mask with flora winter over mask.
>two large compact knifes on front of straps
>bag has a winter inner wool piece for over coat as well as things along the lines of food/flares/white knit balaclava/etc.
>my gp7 is in the mail so thats going to be added on.
>rifle is not mine its my friends nigger rig of a norinco ak-ripoff would be better using a lead pipe.

>>28356282
in the surplus thread faggot why are you replying to me? /k/ is so full of newfags today

>>28356220
he is literally wearing nothing that could be considered gear.

>>28356295
>>28356292

Also sorry, I replied to the wrong thread

>>28356164
Don't ever post here again.

>>28356291
actually bought the shemagh of an egyptian kid for like 15$ i saw the tag it was in arabic.

>>28356164
>>/toy/

>>28356282
ask the milsurp general thread. you could probably just google polish milsurp jacket.

>>28356282
Poland?

>>28356313
>tag

if it was a real hand made shemagh it wouldn't have a fucking tag

>>28356249
not my gun. was just used for sake of picture. also you dont understand the niggerness of that weapon

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>>28356291
>mixing camo
not as bad as people think it is.

>>28356313
its not even a real shemagh

>>28356332
so you are a nogounz airshitter
don't ever post here again, your kind is not welcome here

>>28356334
but look at the patterns he is mixing man. i respect your camo mixing because you actually own guns and buy nice things.

>>28356330
>handmade
>2015
are you stupid? Most mil fags use american ripoffs made in china. At least mine is sandnigger approved

>>28356338
youre right its a keffiyeh

>>28356341
>Most mil fags use american ripoffs made in china
guess how I know you are a nogunz, never served, autistic airsofting teenager

>>28356341
im not talking about milfags im talking about middle eastern people. The shemagh i was given was made by someone in afghanistan and given to me.

Question: main innawoods/truck rifle is wasr-10. I carry 4 mags, dump pouch full of various equipment, and a complete IFAK. Right now they're in/on a cheap pack. I don't really want a full chest rig but I have no clue how to into gear. Any suggestions on something that would be low pro but still be able to spread out and be easily accessed?

>>28356349
>keffiyeh
those words are literally interchangeable

>>28356358
+10 points for afghani
cool but mine works bud also its a keffiyeh. its thinner and relatively smaller