Poorfag List

Nugget. Yugo Mauser. Schmidt Rubins.

>budget
>intended use
>state and state laws
unless you give us this, we can't help you and you'll just get faggots posting memes and 'le poorfag raifu' shit

>>28302861
glocks are poorfag tier and pretty reliable as long as not in .40nade caliber

>>28302889
People come here for help and not just to shit memes? I don't believe you.

>>28302897
The only poorfag tier glocks are police trade-ins.

>>28302910
>automag
>poorfag

What

>>28302913
and theyre probably the best deal handgun a poorfag can get. im not aware of anything similar in quality for the same price, and most police tradeins come with night sights

no one said P64 yet?
get one OP
cheap, reliable, same round as the makarov, and hollow points are available.

My budget i was looking for is up to at least 500 and the state laws are for missouri

>>28303025
intended purpose

home defense? target shooting? camping? vermin gun?

>>28302861
makarovs are very reliable. just keep in mind that as a poorfag, you need to think ahead of what you're getting and how versatile it can be
>buy a tokarev in 7.62tok because it's cheap and poorfag
>7.62x25 isn't cheap
>you can't cc it for shit and need to end up buying another gun

>>28303042
There's still some cheap 7.62x25 surplus floating around out there. Of course, I wouldn't use it for SD ammo.

Poorfag is another word for someone who can't budget their money.
I get paid fuck all and still own nice guns because I set as much money aside each paycheck as I can afford to while still living comfortably.

>>28303053
But seriously, give some more info like intended purpose

thanks i will look into a tokarev. and im also looking into home defense and targetshooting and lastly what are ones considered vermin guns?

>>28303076

Go fuck yourself retard, nobody gives a shot how autistic you are IRL

>>28303081
If you're partial to glocks, a pretty good deal on 17's. Shame the 19's sold out since they're more versatile

http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?groupid=6042&name=LEO+Trade-In+Glock+17+GEN+2+9mm+Pistol

vermin gun? Do you mean varmint?

>>28303081
vermin guns just refer to small shit for killing snakes, rats, etc. typically a .22 or maybe a .38

for home defense and target shooting your best bet is either a cheap pump-action shotgun or a mid-caliber revolver or striker-fired handgun in a common cartridge like 9mm or .38/.357. Milsurp bolt action rifles are a poor choice for home defense due to size, weight, and relative cost of ammo, on top of possible quality issues.

For a decent, cheap striker-fired handgun check out the Smith and Wesson Shield. For revolvers, a police trade-in .38 is very easy to find though you'll want to be careful of the quality.
Can't tell you about shotguns, but a 20g pump from just about any brand should be fine.

>>28303081
What kind of vermin? If it's like rats or gophers you could probably use .22 LR - .22 mag. If it's things like coyotes you'll probably want .223 or something.

Is there anything in a 38 at range. I could use it for gophers around my house.

>>28303093
>"This person is right, but I can't let him make a fool of me on the internet, so I'll insult him like a child!"
What's next, gonna post a pic of your beat to shit nugget to prove that you're not an underage noguns?

Unless you need a gun NOW, there is no excuse to buy mediocre firearms.

I would also like to look into getting a Makarov. My friend has one but i want to get the real Russian one but all i can find is a Bulgarian one. Are they still just as good?

>>28303110
only some lever actions, but those are typically too expensive if you want quality to justify shooting gophers.

Get a cheap 10/22 (Ruger Takedown is pretty good for this) if you need something to kill rodents. Just be aware that .22LR can be a tad hard to find depending on where you live due to ammo scares - this makes it less than optimal for target shooting or plinking though it used to be THE plinking round.

>>28303111
Some people like military surplus firearms. Benefit of them being inexpensive is you can buy a lot of them.

>>28303120
Ok thanks. That helps a bunch

>>28303117
You can't get many Russian-made guns anymore due to import bans in America. Can you give a specific brand or manufacturer of the Tokarev you're looking for?
Toks aren't particularly rare or usually expensive, you can find them in pawnshops or local stores pretty easily, don't bother hunting online too much.

>>28303128
Well I do have the Romanian TTC i was surprised to find that at a pawnshop but since i do like the Tokarev i would like to get one in 9mm due to ammo availability

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>>28303123
>owning more than one of the same gun
>"muh history!"

>>28303141
not sure about availability but Zastava produces a 9mm Tokarev for roughly $250. Century Arms International imports them, apparently. Try looking into that.
If you do end up liking what you see, be absolutely sure the firearm you purchase is NOT BUILT BY CENTURY ARMS. Century Arms shits on every gun it builds. They're fine for importing.

If you're a poorfag and only want one firearm to cover as much bases as possible, A used Glock 19 is probably your best bet. Fairly cheap, reliable, plenty of aftermarket parts, suitable for CC, home defense, and not a snappy pain in the ass to practice with at the range.

>>28303149
I think from the history i learned of it i think one could never own to many. especially since they can be chambered in different calibers. But how about the Bulgarian Makarovs i seen them on J&G Sales are they any good?

>>28303149
When did I say it was all of the same gun? There is a lot of European and South American milsurp that is pretty damn cheap.

>>28303156
Ok Zastava got it.

>>28303141
You're looking for the M88A then. It's a new production Tok in 9mm.

>>28303156
I love zastava.

>>28303177
Is there a site that i should check out for it?

>>28303173
I'm glad you've found something you seem to like, though to be honest I don't see much use for a Makarov. Home defense you're probably fine, but you can't do a ton of shooting with it - it's not the most accurate gun and you're largely burning money trying to hit anything at any significant range, and you can't kill animals or innawoods with it.
You didn't say anything about everyday carry or concealed carry, which I could see a Makarov being good for.

>>28303186
>makarov
derrr
*Tokarev

>>28303186
I haven't gotten my concealed carry yet but i thought why not use my tok as my main carry.

>>28303185
Look it up and shop around. Should be around $250 for a new one.

>>28303156
Good think you told me i almost thought about buying an ak from century.

>>28303195
That's fine, from what I hear Tokarevs are pretty popular EDC handguns and you could do much worse than 9mm Hollow Points for self- or home-defense. As long as you're willing to practice drawing, thumbing the safety, reloading, etc you should be all set!

>>28303203
Oh god I hope you weren't seriously considering that, unless you like guns falling apart in your hands.

>>28302861

Buy a second hand .38 revolver or a 22 revolver.

Stay away from euro-trash and slav shit. Nothing worse than having a slav-shit gun and not having a cheap and reliable source of ammo.

And dont give me that milsurp or order it online bullshit. Get a gun where you can go into any wallyworld or gunshop and buy ammo all the time.

>>28303213
>Buy a second hand .38 revolver or a 22 revolver.
>.22 revolver
>Get a gun where you can go into any wallyworld or gunshop and buy ammo all the time.
>buy ammo all the time
>.22
>ammo all the time
kekekekekekek

I feel you on the .38 revolver, police trade-ins are easy to come by and let you get a babbies first gun you can fuck up that doesn't look like literal garbage

Is Century International Arms the same as Century Arms?

>>28303228
Century Arms International is the importing division of Century Arms, they don't make guns just ship them around.

>>28303233
Ok good by the way what do you think of this
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/21_1171/products_id/411552921/TISAS+Classic+1911-A1+45ACP+5%22+GI+BLACK would it be worth it?

>>28303213
7.62x54R is super common due to nuggets being dirt cheap for the longest time. All the LGS near me carry some.

>>28303240
Not gonna lie, I know nothing about the market for FuddyFive Nine/Elevens, but I can tell you one thing: If this is your first carry pistol, seriously consider something else.

There are a lot of reasons why:
1. .45ACP is a heavy round and packs a good punch. If you're not already used to handling handgun recoil, it can overpower you and make your accuracy worthless, on top of giving you bad habits that will translate to other firearms.
2. 1911 safeties are basically non-existant. They are NOT drop-safe and are prone to user error and negligent discharge if you're not familiar with operating handguns, particularly with external hammers. This is especially an issue if you ever need to use one under duress or even worse if you lose your grip or drop them.
3: build quality on 1911s is all over the map, as with any popular firearm pattern. I don't know where the cross section of affordable and decent quality sits to be entirely honest.

>>28303276
Alright but if i was getting a 1911, which i would like to in the future, what is a good choice?

>>28303293
I've heard RIA makes good 1911s.

Save your pennies and wait.
Buying cheap shit isn't worth it in the end.

>>28303305
this is what I was going to say, though I'm no expert and am just repeating what I've heard as far as manufacturing quality goes
But yeah, I've heard RIA is pretty good

>>28303310
not true, cheap shit is the best way to learn and if you do fuck up something at least you're not out a couple thousand on top of your hospital build.

>>28303324
...just what exactly do you think we're talking about here?

>>28303329
firearms

>>28303337
I don't think you understand how firearms work.

>>28303342
No, apparently you don't if you think a catastrophic failure of a firearm isn't likely to send someone to a hospital.

Some cheap guns from what i hear like the tok are worth the purchase

>>28303347
Because those are common enough to justify NOT getting something quality, huh.

>>28303355
It's called dark humor, anon.
And if you could actually read you'd have caught the bit where I emphasized that cheap firearms are good learning tools.
Obviously nobody's advising these anons to buy shit we know is going to break into pieces or otherwise be useless, hell there are 2 or 3 blatant posts saying to avoid Century for example.

>>28303362
Humor is supposed to be funny.

>>28303365
humor is also supposed to be subjective, and posts are supposed to contribute to the discussion

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>>28303016
Was just gonna recommend this, or the P83 Wanad (Bigger P64 with less issues and 2 extra dindu droppers in mag)
The Poles made some good shit, not great, but good. Look for a #11 on the side, means it came from the Radom factory, which had pretty good quality control, esp for slavshit,

>>28303371
I just looked at one of those. I thought my gut was right

>>28302861
can't go wrong with a mak.

S&W 642
Mossberg 500


Even cheaper?

No.

>>28303393
>snub
why even bother?

>>28302861
Anything in .338 Lapua

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>>28303387
Excellent. I'm considering one as well and have done a considerable amount of researcn. There are a few cons to it
>Very small: The P64 is a great pocket gun and is similar to the Walther PPK (James Bond) in size. This plays into the second issue
>considerably snappy recoil: The simple blowback design makes the gun accurate, but also comes at a cost of making the recoil from the 9x18 Mak very snappy. and Ive heard that after 50 rounds you'll be done for the day.
> 9x18 isn't all that common: If you're looking for something that is going to be available everywhere or is less than ~25 cents per round, this could be a problem. Athough 9mm Mak was much less effected by the Sandy Vag ammo crisis.

>Double Action pull is god awful: It's 22 pound trigger pull in DA with a fuckhuge creep to boot. The SA is fine though and there are always trigger packs. Same with recoil, spring jobs are not uncommon for this little gun. The heavy DA pull also helps because now you can 6+1 and not worry about having it blast your dick off
>iirc it is NOT drop-proof. Don't quote me on it though.

Overall. it's a good little gun but it does have it's quirks. However, most of them can be fixed/are made up for in other areas. Again, if you're looking for something a little bigger, the P83 is a good choice. j&g has them for 219.99 a pop, and extra mags for 20.00 eacд . Also. the P64s are imported with Target grips on to comply with US imports since they'd be considered a "SaddurdAy Nyte Sbeshal" but the originals are put on again onve they enter the US, so see if theyll include them with the gun as well. They should help you get better accustomed to the gun faster and help you get used to the recoil. Let us know how it works out anon, hope I helped.

>>28303499
>tiny subcompact
>huge trigger pull
>trigger creep
>only 6+1
>not drop proof
fuck that

>>28303264
>7.62x54R is super common due to nuggets being dirt cheap for the longest time
7.62x54mmR is common because it's been continually in use and produced for 125 years in dozens of countries around the planet.

>>28302913
Glocks are babby's first gun, DAO training wheels trash tier.
That's why they replaced the .38 as standard issue for double digit IQ dumbfuck patrol cops.

You are literally a trash fanatic.

>>28303508
p64 is a great carry gun. you're just a faggot.

>>28303602
>multiple blatant flaws with weapon
>ANYONE WHO DOESN'T LIKE WHAT I LIKE IS A FAGGOT
maybe they could just fix their fucking guns? even S&W was able to unfuck the triggers on Shields

>>28303564
I mean new production. It's actually getting kind of hard to find spam cans, only places I see them now are online.

>>28303185
Jg sales is your friend

>>28303185
I got my M88A from Kentucky Gun Company during their black friday sale, for $190 shipped.
Just keep in mind that spare mags for the M88A are hard to come by, so if 2 mags is fine then you're gtg.

>>28303580
Still mad about buying that vp9, huh?

>>28303671
>someone actually fell for le VP9 trickster last year

>>28303671
My polymer funz only come in calibers that start in .4, I prefer my double stack 9mm in the Czech variety.
Although I'm considering a Sig.

>>28303276


this poster is literally a fag

>>28303723
are you
>>28303602
by any chance?
namecalling is not an acceptable response to a well-worded post no matter how hard it hurts your feelings

1500,00$
EDC
TN, ha ha ha what laws

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>>28303731
no.
how new are you?
>he called someone a faggot, he must be the same person!
>>28303614
carry condition 1
replace trigger and recoil spring
only remaining "problem" is capacity.

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>>28302861
get a canik.

300 bucks will get you a holster, decent tacticool gun and a couple 18 round magazines

>>28303042
Why wouldn't you cc? It's a decent size and strong too. It's reliable and zastava just started making factory new m57 (7.62x25) and m70a(9mm) with built in external safety. A bunch of companies are remaking the tokarev round and soon it'll be just as cheap as 9mm

>>28303076
I agree with you in some regards, but I would argue that "poorfag" should really also describe people who genuinely don't have a disposable income.

So yes, we should definitely budget our money to buy quality, but it'd be better for us to buy an M&P, CZ, or a used Glock, etc, then investing in ammo. I was lucky because I inherited my S&W 3916 and my Makarov, and simply never felt the need to get another handgun (didn't stop me though).

>>28303117
Bulgarian's are great. P64's as well.

>>28303213
I've never walked into a gun store and not found 7.62x54r.

>>28302861

If you don't mind buying ammo online a mak. Is a good choice , nabbed a Russian civi. Version for 260$ , and 450 ( 400 were lve mint green boxes ) rounds along with a bulgy arsenal mak for a lc9spro.

If buying ammo online dosent suit you and want to go into box stores then a M&P , glock , sigs are good to go used as long as you can finger and see how worn it is. Usually around 200-400$ depends on how desperate a person is and if you flash cash down for a trade they usually take the cash.

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>>28304599

Forgot pics.

>>28303499
Why did you write Scotland on that paper?

>>28303081
Vermin / varmint guns don't even need to be guns. Any .177 air rifle with >1000 FPS can kill small game. Id' recommend this because the rifle and ammo are going to be infinitely cheaper and you can allocate your funds to a better SD weapon.

>>28304611
Why are Makarovs always so cute

Im in the same boat OP. I live in a pretty dangerous city, but I can't afford to spend 300-400 dollars on a handgun. Need some within the range of 150 that can still kill a crazy shithead within a few shots.

>>28304956
It's the dick grips.

>>28303042
I CC a '42 Tok erryday. Israeli carry in a shoulder holster. I'll upgrade soon to something better, but it is doable.

>>28303213
I've never walked into a gun store and not found 7.62x39 bud

K31, it's the new token poorfag gun

>>28304145
The TP9 is a good beginner full-size gun. esp for poorfags who can't save up and extra 100.00 for a glock.
Overall good gun, esp for price.

>>28304956

Because they are cute , accept the mak cute.

>>28304988
>Need some within the range of 150 that can still kill a crazy shithead within a few shots
Get a hipoint c9, it's better than nothing

>>28304599
Where are you finding 200 dollar used SIG's?

>>28305907

P250s used pretty decently ( alot of cosmetic damages ) and the right seller can nab you it , usually 300 ish but as I said , gunshow or desperate people will sell for pure cash.

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>>28302861
when I was a college/post college poor fag
>smith and Wesson 5906, 330 dollars out the door with two mags
>baby browning .25, my reluctant ccw when the 5906 wasn't practical, 200 dollars
>mosseburg 500, bought from a pawn shop, barrel was scraped to hell but it was only 400 dollars

you just have to know where to look and not mind getting outdated stuff

>>28307222
>mosseburg 500, bought from a pawn shop, barrel was scraped to hell but it was only 400 dollars

What the fuck? You can buy one brand fucking new for way less. You got finessed hard

>>28305750
>hipoint
Fuck no

$200 gets you a heavy barrel S&W model 10, hornady critical defence 38spl +P for your carry ammo, get a 2-4" barrel if you want to conceal in a crossbreed, and then you have a S&W revolver, something that when made new to worse standards costs $1000 today, not some piece of shit hipoint.

>>28307359
This
Hell you can get a nice police trade-in S&W in .38spc for a couple hundred bucks of you keep your ear to the ground.

>>28307370
j&g is selling some that cost ~$300

Hard mode for me: poor fag in California.

Ive heard good things about the Bersa Thunder/Firestorm, the Walther lookalikes if you dont mind .380. Goes for about $250-300.

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>>28303213
>hard to find ammo for 9x18, 7.62x39, or 7.62x54r

>>28307300
I was a baby new guns and all other shotguns that I saw were 200 or more dollars then that. Im aware I got swindled now

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What do you guys think of Henry Repeating arms?
I'm thinking of getting one chambered on .22LR. They are pretty cheap, about 200-350 each. Do any of you have any experience with one of these?

Mossberg maverick 88
SCCY CPX
Hipoint C9
P-83 Wanad

nugget or mauser

>>28302861
When I was a poor fag I had a hipoint. Bought one with two mags for 110 and it was better than nothing.

Still bring her out from time to time just to shoot her.

>>28307474
>Im aware I got swindled now as of this post.

:^)

>>28303371
>safety can be switched on when the slide reciprocates giving you a dead gun

No thanks

>>28302861
I bought an FEG AP-MBP a while ago. It's a Walther PPK clone by FEG like the PA-63, except in 32acp with an 8rd mag. I dig it. Nice accurate little shooter without much kick. I think I paid $250 for mine but I don't know if there's still any around.

>>28303186
>makarov
>inaccurate
why do those who know nothing still feel entitled to give advice?

>>28303093
Only on /k/ does managing your money make you autistic. Some of us pay rent or house payments homie, not a rent free basement with dinner made by mommy.

>>28308374
They are, they live in Pawn Shops though. FEG has been imported since the 1930's.

>>28307765
I too would like to know, I hear the actions are nice and smooth and the triggers are nice and crisp, the only thing that turns me off is the gross tube loading fuckery they have going on. Is there a reason they don't have a loading gate instead?

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Be friends with dudes at LGS

I got this Model 19 for $220 + tax

Is an obrezd Type 53 or a 9mm Hipoint the epitime of poorfaggotry in terms of pistols?

The pm was my first pistol, the tt was my second. The pm is a perfect starter pistol and viable for carry. The tt is an incredibly fun plinker and one of my all time favorite range guns. I wouldn't recommend carrying one.

My first firearm was a Mauser, great for learning marksmanship, I like the kick and it's a better buy than a nugget imo.

Avoid ghettoblasters like most hipoint and other budget firearms. SKSs are great first semi-auto rifles, get one with a chromed bore if you have the chance. Don't try to turn it into an AK W/ after market bs.

>>28312680
if done legally the obrez would cost an extra $200 and 6 months waiting time

>>28312780
>poorfag
>legal

>>28312780
>>28312933
>obrez
>legally made
>ever

>>28307765
I have an H001 I picked up for like $225 new. Haven't had any problems yet with it after around 5-6k rounds of 22lr and shorts.

Super fun gun too, and inexpensive training for my lever actions.