Drum Magazines

>>28254365
AR drums are fucking terrible. Barely worth it as even a range toy.

>>28254365
heavy as fuck

/thread

>>28254365
>Why not just issue a single drum that is the initial magazine in the weapon, with the infantryman carrying additional, more conventional 30 round mags as they normally would?
Because standardization and economy of scale. And you also have to put that mag somewhere after using it, they are not disposable, especially not 200 bucks a pop drums.
>>28254395
Weren't the X-Products and Magpul drums not that bad?

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>>28254365
The Beta C mag had a hard time not exploding when used in the desert.

It will be interesting so see how Magpul's 60 rnd drum performs. I think the plan on submitting it for the Marine's IAR program.

>>28254365
only good to be used for airshit

>>28254400
Do.
Not.
/thread.
Yourself.

Don't.

Under no circumstances.

That's basic etiquette.

>>28254439

>Magpul drum

If that's the final concept, I'm interested to see the guts. I've only had experience with my friend's AK drum, and we know how fat those things aree.

>>28254457
Sssshhhhhhhhh. The newfags will learn. They just do it through trial and error now instead of lurking.


I haven't seen "lurk moar" in years

>>28254439
I thought the magpul drum was only 50 rounds. also it seems like 2 30 round magazines would take up less space than a drum.

>>28254457
>etiquette, here.

No, it's simply because you don't get to call your clutch. You're not the judge, jury and executioner. Pick one.

>have six 30 round magazines
>one malfunctions
>have five mags to switch to

>have one 200 round mag
>malfunction.exe
>you're fucked

>>28254580
It's called a D60 I believe, and it holds 60 rounds.

>>28254567
To be fair, lurk moar was never really a /k/ meme, and you still see it on some of the other boards.

Also you barely see any of the old memes any more. Expect for greentexting implications. That meme took off and hasn't looked back since.

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>>28254457

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>>28254641
>Also you barely see any of the old memes any more
>tfw you remember some old reference nobody uses anymore
Like clappers only.

Steyr figured it out years ago with 42 round mags. Why is that shit not standard? 40% more rounds in a mag is great.

>>28254749
Because they are working on a new method.

30% more bullet per bullet.

>>28254457
kids these days have no manners.

>>28254457
hardly a newfag, but I own a Beta-C mag and have seen this thread about a thousand times

hence my /threading myself

>>28254964

Except, nobody will accept your /thread if you /thread your own post.

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>>28254439
Marines have already got a new chest rig for the IAR.

why dont usarmy jus use infinint ammo mod?
if u use infant ammo than u dont hav 2 relode n shit

thats why army use that automod and shit
blat blat blat

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>>28254365
Why have a bulky 60-100 drum magazine when I can use a 60-100 casket magazine that is fatter than a standard but still easy to store

>>28255118
>bro toss me a clip so I can do some damage

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>>28255161

>>28255118
Don't the IAR guys have to carry like upwards of 20 magazines?

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>>28255175
I can guarantee you those are 100 rounds variant, 60 round is about the approximately the same size as the 30 round mags

>>28255196
>I can guarantee you those are 100 rounds variant
yeah they are
big fuckers
and heavy when loaded holy shit

>>28255242
What about the 60 rounds? Do you have one or more?

>>28254439
Ive heard were going to get drum mags for the IAR i hope we fuckin do right now the IAR gunner is issued fuckin 22 30 round mags i fuckin hate carrying extra rounds i cant even shoot

>>28255248
nah, just got the two 100 rounders today
also already sold one to a friend

>>28254365
Consider the following
>Vietnam war
Average expenditure rounds of ammunition per combatant killed - 250,000
Iraq Afghanistan war - 400,000
So basically troops don't need any encouragement to dump ammo

>>28254457
/thread

>>28255747
Stop that

>>28255755
/thread

>>28254365
Heavier and reliability issues. If we were worried about our guns chewing up ammo, we wouldn't be issuing out M249s :P

>>28255161

Because unlike the casket mags, the drums will actually feed sometimes.

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>>28255161
>>28255175
>>28255196

Casket Mags.

>>28255187

What makes an IAR any different from an HK416, besides having a heavier barrel.

Does it still have that wonkyass option to select either open or closed bolt operation?

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>>28256178
>Does it still have that wonkyass option to select either open or closed bolt operation?
no, that's the point
they dropped this requirement from the IAR contract to let HK win

LWRC would have been a great fucking choice but no,,,

>>28256178
I thought that was the SCAR looking thing?

>>28254964
>I'm not a new fag
Sure anon.

>>28256213
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2010/10/26/fn-hamr/
this thing.

>>28255742
>Vietnam 250,00
>Iraq-Afghanistan War- 400,000
Did burst fire setting work or are there some different variable here?

>>28256108
what you implying?

>>28256966
These statistics include rounds fired during training, which of course account for the vast majority of rounds fired.

>>28256966
I had always heard 50,000 per kill in 'nam.
source if you could anon.

>>28254439
Won't happen, because the HK416 doesn't take standard magpul feed lips

kek

>>28254457
OK Officer

>>28255742
I'd be interested to know how much of that was from rifles and how much was from machine guns.

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>>28257913

Good news, that's what they made the EMAG for.

>>28257913
>>28258065
Gen 3 PMAGs fit inside 416 you brainless cunts.

>>28257913
>Won't happen, because the HK416 doesn't take standard magpul feed lips

https://www.magpul.com/products/pmag-d60-ar-m4
>Compatible with a wide range of NATO firearms such as the M4, M16, SCAR™ MK16/16S, HK®416, MR556, M27 IAR, IMI Tavor, and others.

Get fucked, know-it-all. 'kek'

Doesn't mention the L85, AUG, or FAMAS. Maybe that's the others?

former IAR gunner here. We are issued 22 magazines. I carried 6 magazines in my mag pouches, had a saw drum pouch attached to my flak that held 7 magazines. Then the other 9 are carried in pouches attached to the back of 3 other guys in my fire team. If I ever blow through 13 mags, I just run to one of my buddies and grab some mags from him. Takes 2 seconds. Also SOP for the IAR is to use it on semi automatic, unless you really need to keep some heads down.

>>28254365
Unreliable, heavy, and they take up as much space on load bearing equipment as 4x 30 round magazines that would hold a total of 120 rounds

>>28254365

Beta C mags were known to damage the magazine release on ARs due to the weight.

They haven't improved either. It's a self-sustaining cycle of keeping the weak AR magazine catch for compatibility with magazines and vice versa.

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>>28254707
>tfw given a strange room as I think back on all the years spent here....
>tfw you never really leave
>ever

>>28254567
lurk moar nigger

>>28256108
Wow someone is loving that AR casket Magazine.
You surprise.

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>>28254400
>calling /thread on your own post

4chan gets newer by the day

>>28256966
Because afghanistan has a very high rate of supressive fire when one rag head fires a burst in roughly the same direction

>>28258065
No they made the e mag because p mags are banned by name in germany

>>28261857
They were originally developed for British MOD, who promptly purchased a fuckload for their L85A2s in Afghanistan. They couldn't give two shits about the German civilian market.

>>28254601
Pretty much
also, maneuverability is shite with a drum, and the extra weight might throw off your POA, but I can't confirm this

>>28256966
A-stan=a lot of shooting at fucking mountains passes, hills, shit that's too far away for issued weapons. Comabatants are too far away to confirm kills without standin over the body. Bodies occasionally get hauled off by other sandniggers as well.