Gear Queer Thread

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Pouches have switched sides now.

>inb4 jeans

>>28231123
Jeans are operator as fuck. Navy seals wore them in Vietnam.

Reposting from old thread

Hello gearcunts, I have been thinking about of differences between body armor and plate carriers in american type of insurgency/innawoods situation. I personally have experience in using body armor and combat vest during my time in FDF and they really did not hamper my movement that during excersises. That being said I would ditch all armouring and carry bare necessities around on person and rest of the shit in rucksack in insurgency situation.
How do you see where the thin line of no protection to plate carriers go in your own planning and preparing?

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>>28231012

>>28231123
forgot faggot tripcode

>>28231321
At the moment, I don't have any protection (no plates), but am planning on getting one Level IV front plate for my vest. I want enough armor to be mobile, but not weigh me down or hamper my movement.

I think it comes down to what you're actually going to be doing if SHTF. Everyone likes to think they'll be cowadooty-ing things, but most likely you'll be going innawoods and trying to hold out.

I like to go light, (Hence no backpack with this rig), so it wouldn't make sense to have a ton of armor, as I want to have as little contact as possible.

tl;dr amount of armor is determined by how much combat you want to see/how mobile you want to be.

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>>28231321
Idk. Do whatever you want, you'll probably die anyway. Finish Defence Force? Or what? You sound kinda 'aspy though.

>>28231446
I just want to know how you and other see their kit going with their innawoods planning.
A lot of people has gucci as fuck plate carriers and equipment for all situations which is bloody smart, but where is the line of too much is too much? I understand that gathering gear and making the most optimized setup for you is fun, but have you ever thought, what if the shit actually hits the fan, what next? Are you going to operate innawoods with your super fast helmets and PCs or trekking superlight evading everything out of the happening zone?

And yes, I am a Finn. My SHTF situation is probably polite green men on this side of border, which means I am huddling my rifle in some foxhole hoping that next Grad barrage doesn't blow everything away.

>>28231392
wouldn't having the shemagh on under the earmuffs cause leakage?

>>28231748
i wouldn't worry about it

Nobody responded in the last thread so I'll ask it again.
What are some safety glasses which are protective enough for shooting but effay enough for work?

>>28231947
oakleys

>>28231681
The line is when you can't operate effectively. I.e. When it slows you down, when you can't reach your magazines because your third IFAK is getting in the way, when it gets too expensive, and especially when you're buying things that you will likely never use. But ultimately, where the point of "too much" falls depends on your strategy and actions.

I like to have enough supplies for about a day innawoods on/in my plate carrier, and enough supplies for two or three days in my car. I'm assuming i'll be alone or be physically close to a few people, so I don't have a radio. I don't have a helmet because I don't want to spend the money, and want to avoid firefights. I don't have a gas mask because I don't expect gas to be used, and if it was, i wouldn't be able to get the mask out in time anyway.

What model rifle do you have?

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How's my shtf setup guy?

>>28232266
Guys*

>>28232266
Go to bed Hunter

>>28231199
dahn pls

>>28232266
How old are you?

Very baby faced. Id definitely rape you in a shtf situation if there werent any women left.

>>28231012
>"gear queer" has night vision down on his head
>only real difference visible on gear is a couple of pouches and a surefire helmet light???
>oh and he has a hydration bladder so he can stay hydrated

Isn't the "Fuck my life" guy the idiot for using tinted eyepro in a situation where one can employ nvg without blowing up the unit?

Is staying hydrated and seeing at night time gear queer shit? I really just don't get it.

>>28232330
Old enough bb

>>28232143
Sadly still poor noguns student, but my plan is to acquire AK variant of some model to keep my skill not rusty and if I get interested on practical then AR 10.

You have good points. Good rule of thumb is to have at least 2 days worth of food with you when moving away from your camp or stash in your backpack. This for when things go sideways you have something to survive from, unless you are super survivor 3000 and hunt squirrels for food barehanded.

>>28231012
Question from a civvie... are military guys actually allowed to put their own gear on their rifles? I mean regular infantry types, not SOF.

>>28232351
What are the gun laws like in Finland then?

I'm a bit of both. I know how to hunt small animals (like squirrels) well, but don't want to rely on it. which is where you're right.

>>28232445
Civvie to civvie, Last I checked, yes. There may be some constraints though (no tacical bottle openers etc).

>>28231392
what kinda poverty, ratfuck rifle is that? Where is your optic?

>>28232488
In theory you can get everything that is allowed by international laws, but in practice semiautomatic weapons are the limit. Collectors get full autos, but usually permits are for no shooting or just shooting in gun shows renactment. Good gun laws compared to rest of the EU.

>>28232534
>$2500
>poverty ratfuck

rifle is fine

>>28232331
It's not meant to be literal ._.

>>28234540
If thats $2500 you got robbed.
And are you wearing your carrier that high up to protect your neck?

>>28234598
I assembled it using quality parts. The plate carrier is sitting exactly at my collarbone like it is supposed to. You are probably that same faggot who thought you are supposed to wear a pc down at your waist

>>28232266
Nice Fake CADPAT faggot

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Just got a new pair of Solomon's and a k rounds gun belt to go with my k rounds appendix holster.

My other operator gear so far is just a battle belt with mag pouches and holster.

>>28231430
But anon, if you have no pack how you gunna innawoods? You can but it will be incredibly more difficult. For thread participation i have my ALICE with LBV and OD BDUs laying around. Pic dump soon stalker

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>>28234697
Better than no cadpat

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From a buyer's perspective, what's a decent price to pay for a UCP colored KDH issue plate carrier? My local surplus has a pile of them and UCP IOTVs and they aren't selling at all. The owner is pretty realistic, and I think I can talk him down from the selling price of $100. I'm thinking $50 or $75-ish?

I'm planning on removing the sideplate pouches and dying the whole thing dark green if I get it.

Anyone have any recommendations for a FAIK setup on a D3CR on a Ferro Slickster?

>>28232445
It depends HEAVILY on the individual unit. The company commander is the final say-so in a unit.

On average among units on deployment though you tend to be allowed your own sling, handguard covers, foregrip, and flashlight in almost any unit.

Most units will allow you to swap out your buttstock (so long as it isn't something terribly goofy) and your pistol grip.

Some units will allow you to swap your muzzle device, though it's kind of a hassle.

It is extremely rare (though not impossible) to get the go-ahead to swap out optics, though this really only happens if it fits into the TO&E. For example, some guys get selected as designated marksmen, but the unit doesn't actually have any real DMRs, so they give them an AR with a 20 inch barrel and an ACOG, that person, if they have proven semi-competant, can probably swing the idea of sticking a personal magnified optic on the rifle. Much more common than using personal optics is swapping out what is on your rifle for a different optic in the arm's room; ie- swapping an Aimpoint for an ACOG or vise versa.

I have deployed with some dudes with gearqueered out rifles. One guy was relatives or something with people who owned a gunshop and his M4 had a ACS stock, plastic double mag clamp with two mags, Surefire griplight, Surefire muzzle device and aftermarket railcovers in addition to his issued ACOG and PEQ. His rifle was heavy as fuck. He also did 99% of his deployment out of a truck.

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Posting my ultimate poorfag set up. I'm going to see if I can find a really cheap bicycle helmet for head protection. I don't think I've spent over $50 dollars on all the stuff in this picture (sans AK of course).

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>>28238038
I feel that poorfag shit brother.

>>28238054
I'm doing it willingly. I have some better gear for my actual set up. Most of it is still really inexpensive milsurp stuff though.

>>28236369
I have a pouch on the back of my plate carrier for bigger things, an empty pouch on my side, and my plate carrier has pockets. That'll fit a lot of things. Anything else can go in an old jansport I have or my car. I follow the school of thought of staying as light as possible and operating out of a home base/ cave where I can dump my gear.

>>28238054
>Early ALICE gear
My nigga

>>28231954
Oakleys are "Chad McDudeBro wants to look like an Operator"-tier.

>>28238425
Korean war pistol belt with Swedish pouches on it.

>>28238494
But they work

>>28231012
Fucking awful. Throw that disgusting shit out right now.

>>28238494
Ex-army friend says he got them because Oakley's offers a duscount for Veterans, he says they're good and they work so whatever man.

>>28236925
Not true

>>28239379
There is a weird balance on people's opinion of gear. It's hipster if it's too obscure and its dudebro if it's too popular. Same thing happened with Magpul products. Do what you're doing and focus on if it works.

Oakleys are nice, and USstandardissue.com offers them to vets at a steep discount. If you can talk your friend into ordering them for you, they're quality. They even make prescription sunglasses, which is nicer than wearing inserts.

>>28232445
Generally only the non operational parts, for example you can put your own foregrip on. Anything in the action or the optics is usually a no go.

>>28239413
How so? I know the replica stuff lacks the anti ir treatment, but beyond that what is inferior?

For some reason I love older milsurp gear over modern gear. Anyone else with me in this boat?

>>28239658
Then you're looking for the Milsurp thread. This thread is for modern gear with the exception of "ahead of it's time" equipment.

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>>28236925
Clean your fucking room.

>>28241392
oh my god

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>>28238038
>Holy shit that kitchen knife.

At least you brought just enough rope to hang yourself.

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>>28241392
>all black getup apart from the helmet
>that lighting
Do you hold your gun sideways?

>>28242805
>Black

nigga, that's OD.

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Recommendations? I usually grab my off brand camelback with snacks. Also, carhartt insulated 'jeans'.

>>28242845
A shirt.

>>28231321
I foresee myself pulling guard duty in my neighborhood surrounded my family, neighbors, and friends. That being said I will be in a static position, so I can wear as much body armor as I can and I'll be ok. Now I was was building an INCH set up I would have no armor because it would be too heavy. I build gear sets for different situations. I have a light set just for moving and then the guard set which is heavy shit and I won't be moving much.

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So I changed from this...

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To this.

Any thoughts on where to move my IFAK to? I dislike wearing it somewhere that I can not see it.

>>28242905
Why not anon? Just get used to reaching for it.

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>>28242943
Several reasons.
I have had numerous broken ribs in the past. I don't fancy trying to reach back like that after being shot in the chest.
It might not be me trying to get to it. I would rather not get rolled around while someone is looking for the thing.
Lastly, it just makes me feel better when I can visually check my gear. My back pouch is usually wet weather gear or extra socks or something, as I do not carry an assault pack.

>>28242987
Does your plate carrier have side webbing?
Wack it on one of your sides.

>>28243026
This. Non master side as far back as you're comfortable reaching. What's in your IFAK? I have two, in my sleeve pocket and on my armour on the back. It's a tear away for when I chuck on my pack.

>>28243026
It does. I prefer to keep my sides relatively clean, but that is an idea with merit.
>>28243043
My IFAK is a standard USGI set up. I am not a fan of tear away pouches because I have seen guys loose them. IEDs and whatnot have a funny way of testing how secure gear is. That said, It is highly unlikely that I will be encountering any IEDs at the range or in the local woods.

>>28243064
It's the old 'shadow your body' train of thought. You have a unique issue so it makes it harder for you.

Never heard of any of the lads losing a tear away, got an additional buckle to assist.

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1/2

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>>28243416
2/2

>>28242775
I was waiting for someone to say something about the knife

>>28231446
I might have to get that type of TACO now. I was thinking I would just get two rifle mag TACO's and use 5.11 pistol mag pouches but it makes so much more sense to just have everything together.

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Camo mixing is a sin I know

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posted this shit before. Just got the airframe and havent really used it much, but i do like over my mich so far. Been using the knee caps at work more than at the range and they rock. Only issue with the m83 is that the bottom pouches sit low so i have to run a thigh holster or no pistol. Really diggin this set up over my PIG w/ belt set up, with the exception that i can keep my pistol higher with the belt (pics of that later maybe)

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Really been taking a liking to gcode stuff lately.

>>28231012
Where can I get some digi flora gloves and large plates for a decent price?
I've searched every where for gloves to no avail and the plates are all $250+ for one.

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AR kit.
R8?

Milsurp ILBV, room for 6 mags, a three rounder on the but back as a quick dump pouch. 3 quarts of water. Rain jacket in butt pack. Flecktarn coat. Wrangler cargo pants, some no name socks, some used boots. A couple lengths of gauze

>>28242905
I keep mine on the right of my three magazine pouches. My general rule for gear is to assort it from most urgent to least urgent, going from the middle to the sides, favoring the right. I'm going to have a second IFAK, as my USGI won't hold two izzy bandages and a CAT, so the bandages and gauze will be to the right of my magazines, with the other stuff on the left side.

Remember, if you get shot/blowded up/stabbed/whatever and you can treat it yourself, you want to shave as many seconds as possible when getting your stuff. Trying to get an IFAK off your back with a cut femoral could cost you your life. (Last I heard, you have about a minute becore you lose consciousness from a nicked femoral.)

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Tied paracord and sheath together.

>>28245841
I really like your setup. Similar to mine. Add some izzy bandages and other first aid stuff to your kit.

>>28243416
>>28243445
Jelly.

>>28246006
Im brok AF. All my ammo is pictured, four mags.

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Rate it bitch.

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>>28247276
We'll do some lines afterward.

>>28247276
Oper8er/10

>>28245979
Running your tourniquet central on the front of your PC is for that situation. Your CAT shouldn't be buried in your IFAK for this reason. Held on the front by some elastic.

>>28244276
>blood type on your gear
Are you trying to invite karma to slap your shit?

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Anyone have experience with the Ferro slickster? Integrated side pouches are mighty tempting and I would be using a mayflower panel for it.

>>28247779
Not the anon you are quoting, but better that someone knows in an emergency then not. Same as owning a gun is not necessarily inviting shootouts (I hope I never have to use mine).

>>28247998
Why is she covered in marijuana leaves?

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>>28236934
Even without soft armor inserts, $100 for an iotv is pretty good. It's heavy, but at least it isn't the marine armor carrier. The MTV sucks.

>>28247276
You run too much shit. 11 mags of 7.62 am I right?

>>28248922
Japanese maple leaves. But you already knew that, you devil you

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Post it once but here's my gear
I tried not to be a poor fag on the chest rig but I can't say that for the pouches

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>>28249206
Here's a few more

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>>28249206
>>28249217

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>>28249228
Last one guys, I'm running about 8 30rd pmags for my ar, got an ifak on my belt and all I need now is a good handgun
>when I turn 21

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How far off your body does your kit extend?

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I really like the alta kneepads

>>28249341
Slightly higher than yours, I like it tight around me with little to no sag

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My woodland top is too big

>>28249341
Good fit anon.

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>>28249354
Gotta remember a FLC is a vest, not a chest rig. It hangs lower than all of my other rigs. I can wear a battle belt with both the rack and the ao micro, but since I'm no pistol, I don't have enough gear to warrant a battle belt anyhow, so I stopped wearing mine on my trips to the woods. Not like I could wear the belt comfortably with an iotv anyhow

>>28249377
As in my kit or my actual physical fitness
>that kit fits good
>that's a good fit anon

Because desu, not doing so good fitness wise
My bench max is an embarrassing 205 pounds
My APFT score is only 265

I'm working on improving it, but the real problem is diet. I eat like shit, and you can't out train a bad diet.

>>28249423
Good fit on the gear.
That means fuck all to me being an Ausfag. Eh and 90kg for your body shape isn't that bad. We bout the same Sanpai. How often you hitting the weights and/or circuits?

>>28249346
>bloused combat boots in civvies
Fucking peivates...

>>28249541
you do know why people blouse right? he is trying to keep insects out of his pants.

>>28249477
For the past few months I've been running 3 times a week an occasionally lifting, and it was starting to show.

For the past 2 weeks, I lift 3 times a week (im doing a 5x5, so free weights only) and still run a mile every day I lift, then on the off days I run 3 miles or run 1 mile and then do 60:120s and then do some Accessory stuff like dumbells or machines instead of free weights So six times a week I spend at least a hour and a half in the gym. I haven't slacked off yet, but I'm only two weeks in.

>>28242845
Do you always have a black eye? How the fuck do you look out of that ACOG?

>>28249541
Except
>I'm in the woods
>I'm training
>those are black bdu pants I found real cheap at a milsurp store
>I wouldn't blouse my boots in public
>>28249584
Is it even possible to get scope eye from an ar? He probably rests his cheek way at the fucking back of his rifle

>>28245841
You should use in-ears for that type of get up.

>>28249541
You do know that blousing your pants keep insects out. Right?....Right??

>>28249579
Just running might not help you a great deal, mix in interval training and sprint sessions. Intervals are good because you break down the split and focus on hitting a target time each interval. Free weights are pretty good but focus lighter and for more reps and sets. Milfit is all about endurance and conditioning at the same time not trying to fuck your body too bad.

>>28249611
ACOGs have a 1.5" eye relief, they tend to blast you in the face especially when prone cus your head is angled towards the tip of the eye piece. It's not the round but the scope that causes that.

>>28249677
5x5 free weights duh. Course free weights are good.

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>>28249551
>>28249611
>>28249648
>oh no the buggggsss boohoo
>never heard of premethrin
Coat that shit in it fuckers. It's like y'all never had real operators in your life.

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>>28249677
60:120s are intervals

And my free weights are 5 reps, 5 sets of 3 exercises with free weights.

So we're on the same page, but thanks for advice.

>>28249687
I've shot acogs before. Not as much as a comp m4, but I've trained and i even qualified with an acog last year. Didn't ever get scope eye. Are we talking about the same thing?

>>28249713
Or I could just tuck my pants into my boots

In honor of anon, lets post pictures of bloused boots.

>>28249821
Boy of you are one of my joes and I find out who you are I will skull drag the shit out of you.

>>28249839
Ha ha ha. Forever chasing lids.

>>28249839
What's wrong with the picture he posted?

>>28249713
>spend money on something that will give you cancer.
>Spend nothing on blousing your pants
Gee im leaning towards option number two

>>28249821
Like I said m8, ACOGs have a very small eye-relief. I've seen people get blasted by them all the time. I was in the Marines, and did range coach. If you don't have a good cheek weld, especially in the prone, and especially during rapid fires, you'll get a pretty good hit.

>>28249713
>coating yourself in poison instead of just stuffing your pants in your socks
you really suck you know that

>>28249929
Nothing, just someone trying to swing his dick around a large room.

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We shoulder armor now.
Mall ninja or actually useful? What do you /k/unts think?

>>28249839
For what reason? Taking pictures that don't violate opsec or Persec in any way and posting them on a Mongolian finger painting website? Or using a tripcode?

>>28249955
I've shot with an aimpoint on my rifle a lot more than acogs, so I defer to your experience.

>>28250136
I mention my guard shit mostly as a reason for doing my training. Lots of anons be like having gear is cosplay or some shit. I'm just trying to not suck at my job. I'm not trying to compare dicks with other .mils, because I'm certain I would lose.

>>28250140
definitely mall ninja

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Did anyone use the pig fdt gloves and not like them?

>>28250140
I had to wear a complete iotv system once. You know, neck protector, groin protector, and the shoulder armor (I think it's called DAPs) those 40k pauldrons suck.

>>28250207
You think that but some guys just like waving their NCO status around. Congrats cunt, lots of us are you're not special. Don't pay it any attention.

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I think I've pretty much simplified it to where I want it.

>>28250275
My only complaints about the PIG FDT gloves would be that the index finger could stand to be more durable and they don't fit my long hands very well, but that's obviously my fault and not theirs.

This post was typed wearing PIG FDT gloves

>>28238080
Same here. High speed; low drag. Minimalist stuff is always lighter, and since it has less stuff, they can afford to use nicer material to make it.

>>28238054
Please identify all the cool shit in this photo. I know what the SA chest rig is (thank you Ivan); what's the other stuff?

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r8 my beginner's gear

>>28251281
>anglehead flashlight

literally why?

And you couldn't even match the colors? Why is everyone here ADD as fuck with camo patterns? Just pick a color and stick with it, fuck

What is the point of carrying around canteens? Just use a fucking nalgene or a camelbak or fucking used soda bottle

>>28251281
Nice, bakelite.

>>28251298
angleheads are shit tier, canteens are awesome though

>>28251298
What's wrong with canteens? They're usually more ergonomically shaped, and you don't get plastic leeching like you do with used soda bottles.

CAN'T FIGHT FOR FREEDOM WHEN YOU HAVE SUPERCANCER, FRIEND!

>>28251281
>mismatch shirt/pants
for some reason this bothers me a ton. the way I see it, if you're going to mismatch, do it in monochrome pants., because its camouflaging effect is equally poor and it looks much better

>>28251324
Why? They get heavy as fuck and bounce around on the small of your back like footballs

I get putting canteens on your pack, but not your waist. It's a waste of time. Just buy a dump pouch and fill it with empty water bottles or shove them in your cargo pockets

>>28251345
>he doesn't strap containers down
Well, there's your problem.

>>28247276
where 2 cop that MAP pack?

>>28251298
>>28251337
Something like >>28243978

>>28251364
With what, ALICE clips and paracord? Why would I even bother, that's just masking the problem. It's still too much weight on an inferior load bearing point on the body. The waist is a terrible place in general to put weight.

>inb4 weakbody

It's got nothing to do with it, I can carry a full 782 load and a loaded out ruck for at least 15k, but if I don't have to, why would I?

>>28251386
yes I would call that good, sorry for not remembering it.

>>28251401
Well, to be fair, I don't carry a canteen myself. I just carry a water bottle with a brita filter in it (and then like 4 of those "collapsible flasks"). But you shouldn't have shit bouncing around on you anyway.

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hanging right above my head every night

>>28251443
>blue force gear

my nigga

What's in the IFAK?

>>28251447
halo, needle, nose hose, etb, 2 trauma gauze, 3 HH gauze. I fucking love that IFAK to death, absolutely best in the business.

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>>28251447
this is the far wall in my room

>yes, that is a Maxxpro air condition controller

>>28251474
Yup, I agree. I have one on my Scalable plate carrier that I wear for work, and another half-loaded one that I have mounted upside down for funs.

it's really versatile. It's one of the only, if not the only IFAK that can actually be mounted upside down without any detriment to deployment or security.

>>28251529
I like its great capacity with minimal bulk. Other ifaks that large are fucking chunk monkeys. to many companies try to make ifaks that use as little as molle realestate as possible, that forces it to grow outwards in order to offer a usable capacity. Plus its light and readily deployable. BFG shit might not be for everyone, their dumper isnt so great, but that Ifak is top notch

>>28251554
I own at least fifteen blue force gear products, from their Ten Speeds, to their Admin pouches, to slings and other shit. I have pretty much no complaints with any of them.

I have the dump pouch, and I like it. It's great for pistol and pistol/rifle combination belts. I wouldn't fill it with more than like three rifle mags, but I almost never have more than two magazines in a dump pouch at one time. It's more or less just a workspace for further organization.

They aren't for everyone, like you said. I don't know. If you are on the bleeding edge of tactical theory and shit, then BFG probably appeals to you more than it does to people who use milsurp trash

>>28251594
I buy tons of shit, mostly from tactical tailor. I bought that BFG rig because I wanted it, I hated my D3CR, and it is used as a grab and go thingy for my house. On my PC and belt I use Kywis for magazines.Best dump pouch is the HSGI magnet, it deploys easiest and has the wodest opening. Ifak wise I use the BFG exept on my belt since its to big, there I have a 90° hsgi bleeder. Admin pouch I use a maxpedition only because I avoid velcro like the plague

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>>28232266
>them delicious cock smooching lips

>>28251998
Is it weird I want to stick my dick into his man tits?

>>28250140
It's only not mall ninja if you spend all day in a gun turret

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>>28249171
I'm a SAW gunner, weight means nothing to me anymore.

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>>28253162
>mfw you guys don't have 7.62 at a sec/sqd level.

>>28253222
what about the 240 bravo?

New fag here, for just getting into plate carriers where is a good place to start? The condor ones seems like a good price point but I dont know how their quality is.

>>28253290
do not buy condor shit you will regret it instantly. what do you want the plate carrier to be for?
do you want a super light weight slick rig?
do you want a tight small rig
do you want a huge battle rattle set up?

what rifle do you have?

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>>28251443
Put a plate over that socket you heathen.

>>28253162
Thank you for your service.

>>28253334
are you pigeon toed?

>>28253303
Rifle is a a1 clone, most uses would be to hold mags, a pistol and the mags, spare other items and a camel-bak. Eventually I would like to get plates but for now its mostly to hold my shit

>>28253344
get a chest rig then. it is way cheaper and less cumbersome. if you are gonna wear a plate carrier it needs to have plates. but get a shellback tactical banshee or a a beez plate carrier or anything by lbt. or a pig by skd

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I just got my HSGI leg rig V1 (formerly known as the Costa drop leg). I got it in Wolf Grey, which in person is a very dark bluish grey. Probably just gonna stick with coyote stuff from this point on.

It's a nice set up. The whole 'low profile' thing is stupid because it's certainly not. But it's not overly bulky or obtrusive. When i adjusted the height, it feels very natural doing reloads from there. More so than belt pouches.

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>>28253343
Nah, I just had my foot pressed up against a rock for stability.

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>>28238054
>poorfag

Nah son, let's just call ourselves minimalists.

>>28253391
that is a pretty squared away kit if you have medical shit in your chest rig.

>>28253471
Not yet, just clipazines and cleaning kit. I really have no idea what to throw in it.

>>28253504
more bullet elevators and gloves/Israeli bandages,and a tourniquet. you can fit 9 ar mags in that chest rig idk if you can fit more then 6 ak mags

>>28253162

>SAW gunner

Potato image. So we operate with mags now? Where are your drums and nutsacks?

>>28253534
Technically you can shove mags in a M249 LMG.

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>>28253516
Yeah just 2 per pouch. 200 rounds of real fucking WARSAW. I do need some medical stuff.

>>28253360
/k/: Droplegs are stupid. nobody operates with droplegs!

/k/ after a Costa branded dropleg: Everybody operates with droplegs, obviously!

>The whole 'low profile' thing is stupid because it's certainly not.
>it's not overly bulky or obtrusive

This is the more often used meaning of "low profile" in combat gear. Calling any combat gear "low profile" to refer to "blending into civilian clothing" is mostly retarded thinking that's been flamed by wannabee James bonds.

>>28253360
Are the mag pouches removable? Do you have pictures of it on you?

>>28253534
>Gear thread pics =/= shit I use at work.
Let me see if I can shrink down a pic of my shit.

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>>28253534
Right here man.
>>28253597
Just imagine it's on my IOTV instead of the FLC and the pouches are multicam now.

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to lazy to get out my rifle.

>>28253586
the hsgi platform is the most stable one ive ever worn since it rides so high. I want on only to fuck around with at the range, its a good way to have available mags.

>>28253643
oh man

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Reposting from another thread.
>Brother innaarmy as an MP stationed stateside
>brother is going to be phasing into new camo soonish? (I do not keep up with the latest military news.)
>brother is going to send me all his surplus UCP gear for free
>already have my own kit in OD green everything
>how to unfuck USP surplus for practical use in the PNW?
Seriously, how do I unfuck UCP to the point that I can actually use it for something other than being a whitish blue beacon in the temperate rainforest? Is their a preferable dye out there or will anything do? Do any of you guys dye UCP?

>>28253643

I AM the night/10

>>28253663
Krylon

>>28253663
I've dyed UCP with Rite dye. Don't expect factory new results, and don't expect it to be a darker tint with camo contrast. The whole thing kind of goes darker with some slight color variations. Best idea is to get some dark green dye and do the dying process, but let the fabric soak 3x as long as normal to do as much as possible to obliterate the pattern.

I wouldn't recommend spraypaint on fabric. I did this for some UCP stuff on deployment, and the paint gets flaky and makes the fabric stiff. At most, dye the gear green, and then do some light lines with spraypaint of brown or tan to break it up.

>>28253627
Neat where'd you get the PPCLI shank?

>>28253705
From a PPCLI dude when Atlantic Resolve was first getting started. Traded a CRKT for it.

Surprising what you can get by shouting "Who wants to trade knives!" in a room full of multinational Paratroopers.

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what does /k/ think of TAG? I was looking at their Gladiator chest rig with bib. Looked decent. I currently have some shitty Condor rig and would like to replace it with something better eventually, Probably in a few months around bonus time. Everything I've read up on them seems pretty good. What do you all know about TAG? Pic related it's the chest rig I think I'm gonna get.

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>>28253290
I disagree with >>28253303

I have a Condor and have no complaints.

Whatever you get, be sure to get one like pic related. Don't get a FLC (fighting load carrier/ vest with buckles), and don't get one without a solid back plate pouch with MOLLE webbing. I got one that was just a front plate carrier and regret the fuck out of it.

Or, if you were ultra poorfag, just get an SADF chest rig from Ivan or a Chicom AK rig and add MOLLE webbing to it.

>>28254122
don't be the asshole who convinces him to buy bottom of the barrel gear that will get him laughed at all the time and bust a stitch if he ever really needs it.

>>28253663
See
>>28231123

I spray painted some UCP stuff (my IFAK and camelbak were UCP). This is what it'll look like.

>it'll take a shit ton of paint if you don't use primer
>it will get stiff

>>28254134
I'm saying this from experience. I haven't had a problem with my cheat rig in the year or so i've had it, and I haven't had a problem with my Phantom softshell from them in the six or so months of everyday wear.

Now, I could just be lucky and have happened to get the unicorn stuff from Condor. I don't know.

But, that's my two cents. I'll buy from them again. However, if anon spends more money, they'll eliminate all doubt in quality for sure.

>>28243978
I dig it, especially the hat

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what should I work on improving? Right now I'm working on getting the matching VZ95 pants, though it doesn't really matter since I usually just wear regular clothes anyway.
Not pictured is my camelback MULE/ canteens that I switch between

>>28254456
Go over this list and check off what you don't have, then decide if you need any of it. Then put your gear on and run through drills. How easily can you reload? Reach your IFAK? Any awkward movements?

-At least 3 magazine pouches for rifle
-at least 3 magazine pouches for handgun
-IFAK
-radio
-small misc. pocket (for hearing protection, gloves, etc)
-rucksack

Hey guys, thinking about picking up a D3 and one of the hangers to use as an IFAK pouch, my question is has anyone here with a D3 found a good spot for a radio?

Whats a good knockoff CamelBak hydration pack, I want a good one but don't wanna play twice what I should for the name.
>>28231123
gonna be hard to go prone with all your pouches like that

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>>28247291
How do you like the brig?

Where can I get some cheap Multicam Arid?

>>28253391
what kind of stock is that?

>>28256645
nice 6b23, how do you like it?

>>28256645
Its all right slick carrier, but that whole front velcro business is stupid. I like mine. I got for $54

>>28251298
canteens are a quart, which is bigger than most soda bottles.

1 canteen + camelbak is master race

>>28253344
Plate carriers without plates are floppy and stupid, dont do that. get a chest rig now, buy a slick plate carrier later.

>>28253586
well, most of us don't use drop legs. he is an exception.

also, /k/ hates chris costa.

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>>28257523
10/10 for drunken debauchery

Not something I would willingly wear in combat though.

>>28257703
Knowing what you know now, would you spend msrp for the PIG brig?

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Ammo pouches came today. I think I need one more to square it away.

Does anyone know of a camelback or something similar that would attach to an M1967 H style harness?

>>28256601
>>28256772
bump for answers

>>28257848
no. better slicks out there.

>>28256772
Airsplat has $10 multicam and atacs cammies. The quality seems surprisingly good.

Otherwise, check your local surp store. Also look for old britbong stuff. My local surp store has $10 british surplus blouses and $15 britbong surp EWCS shirts.

>>28258311
It looks like Airsplat has a 90% off everything deal going on right now.

>>28258410
My bad, UP TO 90% off.

>>28258311
>>28258410
They had BFG 10 speed pouches for $15 but all of them but the grey ones were bought almost instantly, good deals on TACOs too. Just bear in mind their shipping is expensive (my package should have been $12 shipping AT MOST but I paid $22 for it) it also took 10 days when I usually get stuff from other websites after 5 days max.

Oh and stuff I've ordered has been missing from the package in the past. All that being said they have some great deals (not sure how much is left in stock) on pouches and AEGs.

Can someone recommend a cheap belt for use with the enhanced tactical load bearing vest?

>>28258644
It was made to be used with the ALICE belt.

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Whatsup guys? Can I play?

>>28258709
You look like a young Steve Buscemi

>>28250359
What pants?

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>>28258762
I have no proper response for this statement.

>>28257848

why would you not take it into combat anon? also what helmet setup do you have?

>>28258311
Thanks, those are some insane deals, dunno how they could even sell crap for that cheap and those uniforms aren't garbage. I have some Woodland MARPAT that I got from them 3+ years ago and it still works fine.

>>28258762
I get that vibe, but with a little more meat on the bones.

>>28258773
I know we've talked about this, but fuck that tattoo

>>28258311
I wonder if atacs would be something I could wear out in the woods for my shoots but not look like a stolen valor autist when I stop at the gas station or eat out afterwards

>>28259255
>Wear BDU innawoods
>Wear t-shirt underneath
>Take off camo top when inna gas station

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>>28259255
>worrying about stolen valor

All my hunting gear is literally milsurp except for like, maybe my socks sometimes lol, and my "assault pack".

Fuck the faggots. Tell them to fuck right off. Unless you tell them youre special forces or some shit if anyone actually does try to talk to you, its not stolen valor.

And if they say anything behind your back they are double faggots.

>>28259316
Or this, if youre still especially sensitive and vaginal

>>28259356
I agree.

I think the problems arise when people have nametapes, rank, and unit patches.

>>28259450
None of my patches are actually military crap at all. Closest I have are military patches from vidya and movies.

>>28231012
Currently carrying 4+1 for my rifle, what the recommended amount for my side arm? I have 1+1 right now.

>>28259356
Why don't you enlist you pussy ass faggit! all you do is pretend and pose for a camera

>>28259356
Like I've said before, I'm guard, and currently in, so I feel even less comfortable about wearing my uniform or any part of the current uniform casually. So bdus are actually quite nice woods wear, but I'd rather have solid colors or patterns not in current use.

Once UCP is phased out and hopefully forgotten, maybe ill rock my field jacket. I love that jacket

>>28259450
And seriously, it doesn't bother me when civilians wear the uniform without name tapes, but I feel like in my situation it would be inappropriate.

>>28259511
No more than 3+1, and that's pushing it.

>>28259507
Those are morale patches and while it might confuse civilians, it should be no big deal. A few people I've met wear a small morale patch underneath their collar or on their kit. Excess of two morale patches is weird though

>>28259528
>telling Jake the Gun to enlist
Are they even taking prior service right now?

>>28243416
What's the rig?

>>28258246
any suggestions?

I've been also eyeballing the perroz design LPSPC.

>>28259002
bulky, heavy, there are just better options on the market.

the neck protection is my biggest gripe about it being perma attached to the rig.
putting on chestrigs like the sposn eger or chicoms is an absolute chore.
it doesn't help that you feel like a turtle when you bend over or sit down.
and pack work isn't so nice either.


>helmet
msa ach
rhino, j-arm, Sightmark 1x24 NV

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>>28259532
I got rid of my ACU field jacket. At some point in my ten years in the army I got ahold of a BDU field jacket and Im glad I did. Its pretty nice sometimes.

>>28259528
pbbbbbbbbbbbbt wanna come eat a copy of my DD214?

>>28259566
>Are they even taking prior service right now?
I dont know but they wouldnt take me anyways. Medically retired. :(

more pics since apparently it triggers people. Also I have no friends to get all gearqueer with and do drills with anymore.

>>28259671
You should roll up your sleeves it looks and feels better.

>>28259566
so 2+1 is about right?

>>28259716
>>28259671
Hes wearing the shit general issue combat shirt, there is no rolling the sleeves.

>>28259595
hm, fair enough. I ordered a 6b45 that is hopefully less bulky, although i really want a 6b23 for some reason, and a FORT vest.

i only ask about the helmet cause it looked like a 6b26 and i was curious because i have no idea what ruskie shit goes onto my 6b47 helmet.

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>>28259733
>>28259716
Also,while it may look really nice in the picture, it was a little chilly that day. So that was still pretty comfy.

Also, Im used to sweating my balls off. I live in the desert. Its a thing.

Ive thought about getting airsoft crye knockoffs actually, but for shirts, Im not sure what to do. I want good multicam clothes cause they are good for hunting in my area. So for gearqueer its either that or just go full ranchero narco.

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>>28259733
I mean like this

>>28231392
"They have no right to be here. This is our land!"

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>>28259671
My shooting spot is very narrow and short, not a lot of drills I could safely perform there with multiple people. It's also thousands of miles from new Mexico or wherever you are.

>>28259730
Yes, BUT. ammo amounts needed are dependant on mission and your personal comfort.
If you don't think you have enough ammo currently, go up 1 magazine at a time until you're comfortable.

>>28232331
The "gear queer" also has grenade pouches and a weapon light. I guess grenades and target discrimination are too faggoty for the good ol grunt.

>>28250140
>Hoplite
I just ordered a SAPI plate from them, apparently they dont make their own armor, the on I got was a Hesco 4600 plate.

Anyways how the fuck does that ultralight plate carrier of theirs work for attaching shit to the front? How much space is there?

>>28232330
>>28251998
>>28252955
Thanks I think

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>>28261197
Forgot the pic

>>28253643
you have the same setup as my gta online character. i can dig it

>>28239531
The only difference is it's not illegal to own fake cadpat

All real cadpat is stolen goods

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>>28259766
Send me a lower, I can't buy one here yet.

>>28261264
So what is done with the cadpat shit when it gets tossed?

>>28261302
It is destroyed, no cadpat resold

>>28261309
Dang that is wasteful

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=99TGXb9_gqU

Obligatory

>>28238038

Dude, you ain't poor-fag.

You is Poverty fag. Put that knife back before your mom finds it missing.

>>28232331
>>28260095


just read the newspost you faggots

http://terminallance.com/2010/06/18/terminal-lance-44-smear-the-gear-queer/

SOE Micro or Esstac Trim Bush?
SOE has a pouch for whatever already on it but is rather static in the customization department and slightly cheaper.
Bush has the mags across the front instead of stacked and has possibility to change out accessories but I have to but the pouches.

>>28258773

Good lord dude, those tattoos are pussy repellent...

Also start doing push ups bruh.

>>28262074
I have an older Boar A1 with padded harness, and it's great. Easily the most comfortable rig I've ever worn.

>>28259808
what are you referencing ?

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If it wasnt spec'd out for practicing reloads and transitions the 3 rifle mags would be cut down to a single fastmag and MAYBE have a single pistol mag pouch.

Rest of the rifle mags, multitool, extra TQ would go on the plate carrier.

>>28263031
something about that dump pouch just makes me mad.

>>28263043

It's starchy as fuck.

It keeps itself open with stiffness and uses internal lining with a drawstring to provide retention.

Fucker can hold 10 AR mags or 8 for the AK.

>>28263087
>Fucker can hold 10 AR mags or 8 for the AK.

but you only carry 4

>>28251497
That's actually really fucking cool

>>28263099

>not keeping spare rifle and pistol mags next to your skittles and puppy

Why even operate?

>>28263220
its bad enough not having a collapsible dump pouch but putting shit in it before you have to is stupid.

i'd rather not have a bunch of shit hanging off my body.

>>28263249
You expect me to keep my loaded mags back on the table?

>>28263263
get a fucking chest rig or a plate carrier or take one of those giant pouches off your belt and add more mags.

Should I put my spent mags into the slot I just pulled the new one out of or drop them in a dump pouch?

>>28263627
it depends on what you are doing and if you have time.

one way to do it is
>shoot
>first reload from easiest most forward pouch
>put empty in dump pouch or leave on the ground
>tactical reload
>move mags with the most ammo in them towards the front and the ones that are half empty towards the back.
>never put mags with ammo in the dump pouch

>>28263734
Cool, thanks

>>28263278
If you have everything you need and enough room on your kit why not.

They're nice for: trash, fire tinder, and wild eddibles too.

>>28264049
meant for >>28263627

>>28249611
>training

Kek

>>28231392

>bullet button

why try to be tacticool?

>>28264295
>implying it can't be replace with a normal mag release
>implying my 10/30 mags can't be altered


i am just following the law of the land while i am here faggot.

>>28264321

drop the tacticool act though. you aint operating with that rifle in its current state

>>28236925
CHEEKI BREEKI AND SHIT.

Go back to the metro, where is your home.

>>28264326
how about you lick my hairy asshole and fuck off.

>>28253771
So I did some more research and TAG seems like pretty decent tier stuff at the least. Most people seem to really like it. So I picked up the Gladiator off of Amazon for like $180. It's a similar design to the cheapo Condor rig I have so I assume that I currently have the knock off and that this is the real deal. Will post full setup later this week when it shows up and I move all my shit over to the new rig.

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>>28264413
Woah anon, you seem very upset.

>>28264544
if fucking tickles my autism when people are like "hur dur stop play operator" its just a fucking hobbie and i like the thing so does everyone else here. sometimes i just cant fucking ignore shitheads.

>>28264544
anyway what is the dc3r like

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>>28264577

relax, guy. hopefully it incentivizes you to move to a better state.

>>28264413
Woah anon, you seem very upset.

>>28264603
do you really think i would live in this shithole if i had a choice. the whole country is going to be like fucking california when king jew gets elected. i'll take the bullet button off for the civil war.

>>28264595
Pretty rad, right now I rock it solo since I don't have plates anymore. But I still like it. I added the kydex inserts because I slob on Haleys dick like the good goy I am. But shit is quality. My only gripe is the far left magazine when it's an AK mag kind of sticks under my arm almost. Just weird. But I'm overall very happy.

>>28264607
extra upset

>>28264620
haley shit is guchi, like everything but that fucking inforce light.

>>28264577
>its just a hobby
>yet you lose your shit like some spoiled little kid
keep telling yourself that. you really think you are some operator ready to run home and put your shit on if a san bernadino happens in your little city or rush to the southern border and stop some retarded fantasy of a cartel attack on the u.s. border

>>28264612

no it's not. the president doesnt run the country, congress does and the majority of the country is against gun control.

>>28264637
yep thats totes it

>>28264637
holy shit the projection is too serious

>>28264655
what is executive orders

>>28264637
>southern border and stop some retarded fantasy of a cartel attack on the u.s. border

>he doesn't realize that every day hundreds of armed cartel members stream back and forth across the border smuggling drugs and guns. while shooting at anyone they encounter and that their are large civilian organizations that patrol the border along side border patrol because it has gotten so bad that people are in fear for their lives.

>>28264689
>>28264688
see
>>28264724

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>>28262083
>pussy repellant
being married is pussy repellant. Im not concerned.

>>28261265
That would be illegal senpai

>>28264637
>driving home to get your gear
>not keeping your gear and raifu secured in your DD 4x4
>not keeping a cheap 9mm in your toolbox at work

Its like youre not even prepared for the "workplace violence"

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>>28264797
>workplace violence
lost it

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>>28264797
>being married is pussy repellant

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>>28264797
But what if I send you money as a Christmas present?

>>28265017
Its still a firearm crossing state lines. :/

You should have asked before ya left?

>>28264797
>being married is pussy repellent
No it's not. Women see a man who is in a relationship and they want that. So they try to take it.
That's why women are more likely to cheat.

>>28232266
gay/10

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>>28265115
>want a relationship
>more likely to cheat
>meaning they are already in a relationship.

You need to wash that red pill down with a cold glass of Stop Being Retarded.

>>28265156
No retard, women who are in a relationship will cheat on their spouse because they want their ideal man.
That and single women do that too.

>>28265511
You know nothing, good sir. You have made the most conspicuous of fool's gaffe; you over-generalized.

>>28265662
Wrong. Studies and my personal experience of being cheated on is what I'm basing my opinions on.
And I'm aware that generalizations are wrong.

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>>28265511
I dont intend on cheating and its in my wife's best financial interest to not cheat.

And if she does indeed want to leave me, good riddance. Either way Im not losing sleep worrying about "what-if's".

>>28265156
Fuck all that snow man. It gets into the 20's and 30's here at night and in the mornings when we are out coyote hunting and just fuck that man. Snow on top of the wind and cold? Id never leave my house. I fucking hate snow.

I need to get around to painting my SBRs one day, bruh. I just hate Rusto's camo color selection and am too poor right now to spend $75+S&H on Aervoe. lol

>>28238038
> cotton
it's like you WANT to be uncomfortable before you freeze to death

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>>28265511
>>28265707
>personal experience.

Just because that girl you dated freshman year sucked off another dude doesn't mean anything. And have you ever thought of the common factor in all your failed relationships? It's not the girl, amigo, it's probably your weak dick game.

>>28265735
I fucking love this shit. Just layer up and go. I forgot how much more mountains and snow were my habitat.

Just fucking buy Rusto and then adjust it with darker paint. The green is really light, but if you take black and dust it it makes it look a lot better.

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>>28265904
Their selection of "desert" colors leaves much to be desired. I just want coyote tan/brown in a rattle can...

>also I dont use primer anymore

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>>28265945
I'm telling you nigger, mix colors. Use that green, then dust it with that darker brown. Experiment on a lower or your ak or something. It's easy. And painters tape for patterns.

>>28266009
This is pretty much how I'm planning on setting up my AK whenever I buy one. How do you like the PRO in that position?

>>28266064
Mind you I dont know what you think about MI, or if your AK has a side optics rail, but Id highly recommend something like this for a 30mm red dot, if for no other reason than to keep the center of gravity shifted back towards the rear of the rifle.

https://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_ID=447

>>28266122
Thinking about a C39, which does not have a mount, but that looks nice.

>>28266246

New thread bois