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ISIS gets a hold of a single nuclear missile and launches it

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ISIS gets a hold of a single nuclear missile and launches it at Washington DC.

How well would US security measures defend the attack?
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>>28082697
Kek, that would literally never happen.
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>>28082697

A single missile would be easy enough to stop.
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>>28082697
Error: ISIS is incompetant
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>>28082697
If anything it'd be a dirty as fuck suitcase nuke. If NK couldn't get a nuclear missile to perform, ISIS certainly can't.
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>>28082697
A missle? Nah, bro. Bro, nah. Smuggling a warhead in somehow is far more plausible. The good news is that if we either intercepted it OR they managed to set it off we would most likely be able to figure out where it came from based on the impurity fingerprint of the fissile material. Then we would most likely glass that place.
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desu we would probably all be better off if the current crop of congressmen got removed
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>>28082697
I sincerely hope they do.
Option 1: the military knows about it and decides to bomb that are, pretending to have no knowledge of it.
Option 2: some dumbass drops it while trying to make it into a roadside bomb
Option 3: it is intercepted and we nuke them back to the stone age.

Take your pick, it's all good either way.
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>>28082786
*that area, pretending...
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>>28082697
A single missile is guaranteed to be stopped. nod doubt it would be spammed with two dozen interceptors and taken down with the first one. We'd probably keep firing interceptors right up until the first one hit, then toss a few more for good measure.
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Assuming ISIS can somehow steal a road-mobile ICBM, of which there aren't many, it doesn't much matter in the long run.

Chances are pretty good that it'll be intercepted before it hits DC. And even if it did, congrats. You killed a few hundred thousand Americans.

Now bend over for the international rape-train, because it's coming for your asshole.
Choo choo motherfuckers.
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>>28082803
It's a tactical missile though, painted black so the interceptors can't find it.
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>>28082717
This
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>>28082828

If you wanted the missile to get past security, you'd paint it white.
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>>28083150
Alert the President.
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Well...i think we could do without the white house. Fuck its been burned down before and we survived. Hell itll give people something to do other than sit around with thumbs up their collective asses. The white house is just that. A house. It serves next to zero purpose other than housing the president. Which isnt a concern seeing how he probably isnt there half the time anyway. Pic related discription.
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>>28083418
The bigger immediate problem is that Congress would probably be scattered to the winds, assuming that they were able to get out of the blast radius.

Of course, even if Congress was wiped out barring the designated survivor, it would be a net gain, because now there aren't any stodgy old dudes and I imagine it would be hilariously easy for a random Joe to be elected if he ran on a platform of "Fuck ISIS, fuck Islam, we total war now."
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>>28082697

Patriot missiles can stop small-scale attacks like that. The problem comes in when you start dealing with MIRVs, which are essentially nuclear cluster bombs. It's much harder to intercept MIRVs. It may not even to be possible to stop them at all.
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>>28083482
Down for this
YA HEAR THAT ISIS? GET TO WORK ALREADY!
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>>28082697
What if they snuck one on a plane?
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>>28082697
>what is Star Wars?
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They wouldn't launch a missile.

They would smuggle the bomb in. Draw attention and then detonate it. Then have self radicalized and sleeper cells do more chaos in the aftermath.
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>>28083706
A series of movies about space wizards from the past-future.
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Patriot missiles have literal thrusters that makes the missile change trajectory very very quickly.

If you see a Patriot launcher, you can see that it is at an angle pointing somewhere but don't be fooled, for example, a target is coming from the back, the missile will go to the back of the launcher, if it sees a target on its right, the missile will go to the right after launch. Even if the target is more than 90 degrees from the launcher mouth. It is that unique.
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>>28083482

>congress gets nuked

And nothing of value was lost.
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>>28083150
They wouldn't shoot down a black missile because black missile lives matter
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Going to assume its someone who could actually have an ICBM rather then ISIS, who has nothing even remotely close to that capability.

>Launch detected by satellites
>Boost phase traced by ground and satellite based Early Warning radars
>President notified of the attack, if possible evacuated from DC
>EW systems feed targeting information to Ground Based Interceptor stations at Vandenberg AFB and Fort Greely
>A salvo of four GBI missiles are fired from Fort Greely. Most likely this salvo will destroy the incoming warhead (I have seen estimates of Pk per GBI of 0.9-0.5. Per salvo Pk is 0.9999 to 0.9375)
>A salvo of four GBI missiles are fired from Vandenberg. This makes for a total of eight GBI missiles expended against one target (Pk 0.99999999 to 0.99609375).
>The warhead is now out of the GBI kill zone. Terminal defense is the name of the game now.
>Every AEGIS ship with SM-6 in range starts magnum launching. Unknown Pk and number available for the SM-6.
>PAC-3 Patriot systems opens fire. Again, unknown Pk and numbers.
>Retaliation.

At this point it is literally a billion to one chance that the warhead hits, so far that's the best we can do.
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>>28082813
>>28083482
We'd most likely glass Mecca and call it even.
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>>28083482
Crusade when?
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>>28082717
If a nuclear missile is within patriot range, you might be pretty fucked.
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>>28083810
That doesn't seem very smart. How long does it take to reload all that? Why would you waste so much if you don't know for sure there aren't more missiles after that one?
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A single missile can be handled by the BMD systems even if it's a MIRV and deploys all 8
of it's reentry vehicles.
Any more than that and the chances of one making it through increase drastically
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>>28084147

I'd think if someone is to launch their nukes they are gonna go all the fuck in right from the start if they only have a couple. Saving for second strike with only a handful of missiles would probably lower your chances of getting a hit since once that first one goes up every eye in the world is looking right at you.
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>>28082717
World's most effective eh? So that means it works like 1 out of 10 ten times.
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>>28082697
First off, it wouldn't get into their hands.
Second, if it did, they wouldn't get a chance to launch it.
Third, if they did, it wouldn't reach our soil. Not a goddamn chance in the world.
Fourth, if by some miracle every single countermeasure failed, nothing of value would be lost.
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>>28082717
Pretty much this. You think the most powerful and highly funded military in the world hasn't considered how to defend against one of the most likely forms of attack?
I'd wager the US has active space and laser based defences alongside the obvious shooting it down with another missile.
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ITT:
- What is MIRV?
- ISIS not smuggling it into NYC and detonating it on the ground

Also, pic related ISIS missile launch.
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>>28084110
35km (PAC-3 ABM) is admittedly cutting it pretty close, but it's still plenty to avoid having the launcher destroyed if missile detonates inside the range of the interceptor.

Good thing THAAD has a range of >200km, and AEGIS/SM-3's range is 2500km.
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>>28084652

From memory don't they have some method of tracking this kind of stuff via satellite as well?

I recall reading about an Australian company that developed a energy efficient method to enrich uranium and they were quickly locked up by the US gov
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>>28082717

Just put the missile into a commercial plane and you're good.
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>>28084147
That assumes that you keep missing - and thus keep firing - and you do not detect any further missiles to target with GBI. While launching eight GBI missiles at a single is overkill as demonstrated by that Pk failure mean a nuclear detonation of US soil, so better safe then sorry.

The interceptors are all silo bases, reloading is not feasible but there are currently 24 deployed. More then enough to stop a couple errant warheads.
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>>28082697
>ISIS secretly acquires a nuclear warhead
>"At 8:42am local time an unusually large earthquake registered in the Jabal Buliyah mountains"
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>>28082697
>ISIS gets a hold of a single nuclear missile and launches it at Washington DC.
>Cartographers all over the world start thinking about how they'll spend all the extra money they're going to earn.
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>>28084652
>smuggling a nuke
>into NYC

HAHAHAHA
There's radiation detectors all over the fucking city.
Probably all the other major cities in the US by now too.
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>>28082786
Nuke "them?"
ISIS aren't exactly a nation.
You wanna just lob nukes at the mideast and hope for the best?

>Actually...
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>>28084827
should have nuked all of africa 30 years ago desu
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>>28084778
Should at least lob one at Chad, too.
>Fuck Chad...
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>>28084843

Ree
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>>28084847
Get out of here, Chad.
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>>28084652
>what is MIRV
Multiple independently targetable rentery vehicles

Basically you can load multiple warheads on one missle which has many advantages
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>>28082777
>A missle? Nah, bro. Bro, nah. Smuggling a warhead in somehow is far more plausible.

Two nukes at the same time, one in New York and another one in Washington DC. ISIS takes all the responsibility. What do you think it would happen?
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>>28084827
Better blow them up sooner rather than later, while they're still mostly in the middle east. Just look at the Syrian mudslides go.
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>ISIS detonates nuke in Syria or Iraq
>Claims to have more if demands are not met

That is more likely.
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>>28082813
>You killed a few hundred thousand Americans.
Also most of congress and the senate, so even better!

>tfw washington fills up with good honest citizens because there's too much chaos, and too many candidates, for corporate america to buy them all
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>>28082697
Depends on the trajectory of the missile.
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>>28084147
Because the entire system is designed to stop a small number of missiles, from a rogue nation or an accidental launch by another power. It is not designed to stop a concerted nuclear attack by another nuclear power.
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>>28083798
Wrong, they would shoot down the black missile because it was a threat, and then more black missiles would be launched in anger.
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>>28086373
Shit would be on fire.
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>>28086647
Nah, the black missiles are joined by a few white missles who feel guilty. decide to lay down in the street and block traffic in protest.
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>>28086373
see
>>28084778
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>>28084822
Radiation Protection/Health Physics tech here. A: no, there aren't. B: radiation and nuclear weapons do not work the way you think they work. C: even if somehow A and B were nullified, it ain't gonna stop them. They're suicidal at that point anyways, as soon as it becomes clear they're not gonna get any closer to their target, boom.
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>>28086686
But some of the white missiles don't care because they have places to be and they rub over the missiles blocking traffic, causing missiles of all colors to launch.
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>>28086566
Oppenheimer! Please tell me about the new Russian super nuclear torpedoes.
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>>28082697
Do we have to defend Washington DC?
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The US has a very advanced air defense system. It is not like you can hijack a bunch of aircraft and fly them into buildings with impunity. You could definitely stop a nuclear missile on a ballistic trajectory.
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>>28084565
Yup, but the thing about a single missile attack is you can launch more than 10 to intercept
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Are we talking about an ICBM here or a SLBM or a tactical missile? If it was launched very close to DC I wouldn't be positive that they would be able to intercept it.
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>>28082697
There's gotta be zero chance that a missle handled by an organization like ISIS can even remotely threaten the US. Their best chance is probably convert someone in the US who could potentially access these things or smuggle one inside and commit a suicide bombing. Again very unlikely.

But it's conceivable that they get a bomb from Pakistan and blow up somewhere in Iraq or Syria.
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