What do you consider the minimum acceptable caliber for self

>>28020179

For civilians/police, probably .32 ACP. I can't imagine asking somebody to rely on .25 ACP.

For military applications, 9x19mm is the minimum useful round.

>>28020258
this to be quite honest with you family

>>28020179
.25 ACP.
Anything lower and magdumping neck won't be effective anymore.

9x18 Makarov

All others answers are wrong

I occasionally carry my PPK in .380, and that is the very bare minimum I'd feel safe with.

.22 short, it was designed as a self defense round

>>28020537
Defense againat what?mice?
>inb4 thats,why they are called mouse guns

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>>28020571
You don't run into some of the mice that I do

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>.45

380. Preferably 9mm

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>this thread

>>28020179
Main carry gun .380 ACP. Backup gun .32 ACP.

>>28020479
Hello, Mr. Bond.

>>28020179
trojan magnum

>>28020774
Bond's PPK was in .32 you uncultured shit.

>>28021025
In the first movie yes, by the time Moore came along in man with a Golden gun he was using a .380

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>Attempted to shitpost with my own 32acp "9mm" vs 45acp comparison
>Experienced rim lock for the first time and had to yank the magazine out of my P32
>MFW I could have been culturally enriched as this is my CCW

>>28022161
Did it lock on the first round or did you manage to pop off a few before it locked?

>>28020179
.38 Super
9x19 +P
7.62x25 Tokarev
.380 ACP
.22 WM (a.k.a. "Poor Man's 5.7 FN")

30mm

>>28022225
"Normal Man's 5.7 FN"

fix'd that for you

>>28022200
I dropped the mag racked the chambered round out for pictures. When I went to rechamber I grabbed the magazine, reinserted and it refused to feed. Completely locked.

I Probably would have only had one shot maximum.

Honestly won't be carrying it anymore. This was with FMJ rounds.

>>28022263
I had to disassemble the magazine to get it unstuck.

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>>28020179
>40mm HE

>>28020179
.50AE

>>28022591
this...

>>28020179
I CC a BL 18inch Mk I

>>28020179
120 mm
>not shelling Sarajevo while on your morning run

>>28022591
>Carrying anything less than a 60MM
Nigga, gitdafukouttahere

.380 is the least I'd feel comfortable with, but would prefer 9mm.

.380 is generally the smallest you can go for self-defense, due to that more or less being the smallest thing companies will manufacture defense loads and pills for.

And honestly they're doing pretty well with it, at point and time. You lose out on penetration for most loads that expand (so they're effectively crap), but for loads built for penetration, you're getting some really great results in gel (I think LeHigh are the best ones I've heard of?).

At the end of the day, expansion isn't as good as penetration capability, and getting adequate penetration out of a small pistol with good accuracy is worth far more than a .55 expanded pill if you miss or it doesn't penetrate well enough from hitting a bone.