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Why didn't the Star Wars Galaxy ever develop projectile weapons?

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Why didn't the Star Wars Galaxy ever develop projectile weapons?
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They did though
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they did but lasers were more abundant because of some ancient manufacturing race or some shit I think
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Projectiles would have been unable to pierce the plot armor
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>>27910688
Are you retarded m8?
They had what they called "slugthrowers" long before they had blaster tech.
Cycler rifles use projectiles too
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>>27910688
Star Wars lasers ARE projectile weapons, not true lasers.
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>>27910688
There's plenty of non-blaster weapons in Star Wars, they're typically called slugthrowers.

They aren't used as widely as blasters because of fairly obvious reasons. Blasters do not have bullet drop, their range is superior to slugthrowers typically, they don't need to be reloaded nearly as frequently, etc
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>>27910702
Blasters are the "lol 9mm" of Star Wars, slug throwers are the "10mm master race"
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tusken raiders used bullets
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>>27910688

They did. And are used on poor fag worlds

Problem is that stormtrooper levels of body armor are borderline invincible to them

Like I some EU book (yes, I know, autism) a stormtrooper takes a full magazine to the chest point blank and laughs


Even normal imperial army troopers get center mass body armor and such

And since projectile weapons are more suceptable to stuff like planets having different gravities and firing in space. It just makes sense to use blasters
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>>27910740
>stormtrooper armor is unbeatable
>Except if Ewoks throw rocks at them
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>>27910740
Wouldn't the body armor be far more susceptible to the interplanetary gravities?
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>>27910764
Shhhh
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>>27910763
But the ewoks had ancient tribal plot armor made of sticks, berries and their own feces
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>>27910739
HURRRRRRRRRRR HURRRR HURRRR HURRR HURR!!

HURRRRRRRRRRR HURR HURR HURR HURR HURRR!!
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>>27910725
Technically yes, good point

But we're talking actual ammo as projectile
Closest to the blasters would be the Wookie Bowcaster, that shit propels plasma coated bolts

KRAAAUUUGH space magic
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>>27911193
>implying it doesn't start with a glottal stop.
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>>27910688
*Reply #213234 about how they did*

I'm just going to develop why

Mainly because >>27910740 (Although debatable)

But blaster "projectiles" despite being slow and all packed one hell of a punch

Notice (especially during the assault on the Tantive IV how they are producing mini explosions on impact and kill many people with one shot to the chest, blasters make shit burn badly if it doesn't make it explode. The physical trauma is real.

TL;DR Charged blasters are spiritually the underpowered gas-operated lovechild of Star Trek phasers and Warhammer Bolters
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You know slugthrowers are just straight-up guns, right? There's pretty common actually, even if it isn't explicitly stated in the movies.
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Hey guys, pic not mine but just bought this beauty used for 2000 credits from my friendly neighbourhood Rodian, he just recieved a crate from Nar Shaddaa full of them. Great condition, can disintegrate shit up to 400 yards with ease

Jelly much ya herders ?
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>>27910688
They did in ancient history but adopted blaster tech for one important reason, logistical train.

Lets look at the logistic train of a blaster, electricity, tibanna gas(assuming Argon,carbon and nitrogen mix) . These things can be easily refined on site, transported and are somewhat universal or able to be remixed.

The difference between turbolaser battery gas and one for a stormtrooper squad is a matter of mixtures and purity.

Lets look at the logistical train for an M4 and the 120mm cannon. The tech levels may be simpler but the costs of synthesizing nitrocellulose and nitroglycerin and related other components is expensive. The need for ore and refining for lead, copper and brass is another cost. There is no compatibility between ammunition even though they share the elements. Finally there is transportation costs, ammo has high safety considerations and is affected by radiation.

Just like the bolter and lasrifle it is about logistics.
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>>27911305
Reported to the Bureau of Stims, Spice, Blasters, and Explosives.
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>>27910688
geo lucas and his lovely wife are not into guns.
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Isn't the current theory on star wars blasters that they are particle beams?
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>>27910763
Originally, Ewoks were meant to be Wookiees which makes it a bit more believable.
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>>27911855
>Tfw when you don't live in the universe were it stayed as "Revenge of the Jedi" and had beautiful Wookie soldiers fighting stormtroopers.
Instead we have Berenstain bears
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>>27910738
Han's blaster has been described as a heavy pistol. It is the blaster equivalent of a .44 magnum.
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>>27910688
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>>27911407
Not to mention oxygen levels, I remember one planet blew up and made the asteroid mining station you start off in Knights of the old republic II. Ergo nothing more than low powered lasers were allowed on the station.

>Mfw when I just crafted a blaster right just because of that.

>Shall not be infringed in SPAAACE or the past
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>>27910688
they did
fucking filthy casual
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>>27911193
I got in trouble for writing that and drawing a Tusken raider on my notebook when we were learning about Islam in history class.
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>>27910688
>not knowing what a slugthrower is
I bet you don't even know who Darth Bane is.
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>>27910688
Pardon me for sperging out here, but I grew up as hard a Star Wars expanded universe fan as many trekkies are about that show, and with the retcons and now Disneyfication, I don't get to do this much.

Short answer: They had projectile weapons. Plenty of people did. But blasters were easier to get, use, and maintain.

Long answer: different tools for different jobs. Many people who were likely to fight in space, or needed a gun "just in case", or were supplied by an employer on a budget (governments, corporations) preferred blasters. More expensive, but quite banned were disruptors, but plenty of people without access to blasters used projectile weapons, and more importantly, assassins and the criminal element used projectile weapons. Fett regularly preferred projectile weapons, and anyone trying to kill a Jedi preferred projectile weapons, as they move faster, and are not deflected by a lightsaber. Also, shield tech did not stop physical projectiles. This is why torpedoes and missiles were still in rotation.
Mind you, you can't just pop off at a Mon Cal Cruiser with 9mm and hope for the best, but criminal syndicates like the Hutts liked to outfit ships with railgun/mass driver weapons on the sly, so as to just obliterate any law enforcement, if the need arose.
Fun fact: a shitload of inexperienced jedi and padawan have died on Tatooine, because Tuskens use bolt action rifles.
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can someone explain to me why the empire was bad in the original trilogy?
all you know is there are rebels fighting them and they blow up a planet, which would have never happened if there weren't rebels.
the worst I can think of is them burning down Luke's home and family.
episodes don't matter because thats like writing Harry Potter but not showing why Voldemort was a bad guy but then writing a prequel book on why he was by just making up stuff that ties into the universe.
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>>27914886
It's children's fantasy, that's why the emotive is evil.
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>>27914886

Because space nazis. No freedoms and they killed all the magical space wizards with fancy swords.

Someshit like that.
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>>27914886
I remember reading somewhere that the Sith gains power from the suffering of others.
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>>27914833
>all of that is fanfiction
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>>27915263
Now it is because Disney didn't give a fuck but at one point it was soft canon.
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>>27910688
In Battlefront II you could play as a clone trooper with a chain gun, which was a projectile weapon.
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>>27914358
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>>27910688
Lightsabers would melt the bullets and the molten metal would splash all over the jedi like hot bukkake. George Lucas instead decided everyone uses lasers or plasma because it would be easier.
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>>27915263
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>>27914886

Pretty much this
>>27914916
>>27914922
>>27915231


Also canonically, rebels were fond of getting some materials, weapons and vehicles from surplus of the clone wars, they gave clone issued medium grade Plot armor to Han, Luke, Leia, Chewie and the Droids during episode 4

Notice how Stormtroopers fuck shit up at the very beginning of a new hope.
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>>27911240
>comparing a weapon that'll cause phyiscal trauma to one that can do that and much more and another one that causes physical annihiliation

Nothing comes close to Warhammer bolters, but as to not deviate off topic: I agree with what you've said.
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>>27910763

Eros are scary. Sneaky lil cunt who will eat you. Why is every one always over look that? They were gonna roast and eat them.
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>>27911305
2,000 credits for that? Next you'll be telling me that Greedo shot first.
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>>27915337
That gun was always balls for me. I was so hype when i found out about him, too...
Also why the fuck does the Imp officer have a shitty "Bloo Doo" gun.

OP, like theyve mentioned already, plenty of firearms. Its just that blasters shoot straight until they dissapait at the end o their range, since they "blast" ionized gas bolts (the beam you see is supposed to be like a 'tracer' of the bolt or somesuch

Slugthrowers can have longer ranges and require less maintenance (exactly what you can expect of a firearm today) but people got lazy and didnt want to calculate windage and drop in their heads, so they are more than happy to use a blaster that can still shoot out to 300 or so yards.

Also, magazines full of live ammo weight more than a cartridge that holds enough power for 500 shots and a small canister of gas that holds enough for 100 or so.


Dont buy the new Battlefront
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>>27912743
If I remember right, it's more akin to a small grenade launcher in regards to destructive power. Because of the illegal modifications Han did to it.
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>>27914833
>>27915326
>Disneyfication

This confirms how much of a moron or delusional fanboy you are.

Kathleen Kennedy decided to purge the Expanded Universe before the release of the new films for multiple reasons the first because it contradicts what they had planned and also gives authors more creative freedom. It was going to happen anyway if Lucas decided to make the final trilogy.

Additionally, the EU was never truly canon to begin with. Lucas has always considered it fan fiction and would willing override anything it established.
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>>27921808
You're just a fucking hater. Dick.
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>>27910763
Man, Star Wars would have been so much better if Lucas wasn't such a fucking hack
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>>27911835
particle beams and halo tier space magic plasma are the two main theories
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>>27919011
>Dont buy the new Battlefront
As a hardcore Star Wars and Battlefront fan, it pained me to pass on the game because EA was behind it. I had fun playing the beta but after going through the shitshow that EA did to the Battlefield games I couldn't go through it again or support that shitty company. It's a shame most media from now on is going to be all about the buck and maximized profits instead of making a good experience for the consumer.
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so as stupid as this sounds.. Will a EOD suit and a machine gun be good against blasters and such? Cause in my mind it would be great
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>>27910739
and as sir alec guinness explained, they're not as accurate as imperial blasters

fuckin sand people. no matter what time or galaxy.
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>>27914833
>are not deflected by a lightsaber
Source? I can point to Legends content that depicts lightsabers repelling slugs.
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>>27910763
Hey man you don't know. I was fucking there man. Don't you talk shit. You don't know the fucking horror of those little furry bastards.
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>>27910739

>thumb over bore

kek
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>>27921808
>final trilogy
ishgydgy
they going to keep the wild ride going long after we are all in the grave
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>>27923181
Nein, the advanced plastoid armor that the Stormtrooper's armor is made of is pretty much bulletproof. And the blasters fire superheaded gas/plasma bolts which would burn through the armor. Of course something like an anti-materiel rifle would probably penetrate it but im not going to make crazy assumptions, it would be like supposing you could hunt a Steelix with .338 Lapula. Stormtrooper armor has a sort of anti-blaster coating, iirc, but its still only good for a glancing blow.

It does about as much good in the show as the Shields on the Rebel's fighters does.

Also, something a lot of things have ruined were that Stormtroopers were just supposed to be, litterally, stormtroopers, with the bulk of Imperial forces being made up of 'regular' soldiers who had chest places and helmets (remember the guy who was in the AT-AT on Hoth wearing green? like that)

>>27923220
I assumed it was because the Imps know how machines worked and where to shoot a sandcrawler to disable it, vs a people who live with simple things because they blame Technology for destroying everything and being evil.
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FC-1 flechette launcher master race

Block all these, Jedi
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>>27925081
Thanks for the tip them... But then again... Didn't Leia get shot in episode 6? The burns did not seem that bad honestly
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>>27911193
>HURRRRRRRRRRR HURR
>HUUUR HURRRR HURR HURR HUR
HURR HUU8
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>>27925693
plot armor.
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>>27910763
>ignores that the ewoks were previously established as complete badasses by capturing the main characters too
C'mon, man, try harder than that.
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>>27911193
U U U U
U
U
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>>27911835
I remember this battle. I'm actually in the walker on the far right, coordinating Orbit to Ground fire from the star destroyer that was on station at the time the rebels assaulted.
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>>27925693
She got hit in the shoulder, no major organs in your shoulder. Bunch of arteries, but seeing as blasters shoot some kind of plasma they likely cauterize any wounds they cause, seeing as any stormtroopers that get hit by them are never shown bleeding all over the place.
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>>27925693
what these guys say
>>27925759
the real reason
>>27926589
the explained away reason

Though its worse because if i remember right, han just seconds earlier clips a guy on the side of the torso and he died. and the trooper had the perfect opportunity to line up a better shot than just in the arm. Also doesnt quite make sense for a blaster to not give a fuck about high-tech armor plating, but is stopped by a scrawny 4" of flesh

IIRC Hand was supposed to die in that battle but Lucas refused because 'muh toys'
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>>27915345
You're a big Sith
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I found this neat site. Might hold some hold relevancy here.
http://www.partsofsw.com/item.htm
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>>27912743
More like a 93r shaped like a desert eagle chambered in .700 nitro express
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>>27910688
Infinite ammo in blasters...somrhow. Storm troopers carried no reloads from what I saw in the movies.
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>>27928189
>Infinite ammo in blasters
Blasters had finite ammo, just ridiculous mag capacity (for an approximate 5 round sized rifle mag of our universe, they would easily cram enough tibanna gas for 500 shots on regular, 300 on fully charged)

Agreed, we don't see them reload though
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>>27928228
We also never saw them hit what they were shooting at....except for the opening battle on the spaceship. And I attribute that to volume of fire.
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>>27928299
Because they were shooting at the main characters. They aren't allowed to die.
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>>27928299
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>>27910688
Slugthrowers are shit against armor but don't forget that Jedi can't block them as effectively, since slugs are smaller, quicker, and, if blocked, don't reflect off the blade of a lightsaber. You can empty your nugget into a Jedi Knight, kill him, and walk away unscathed if you play your cards right.
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>>27925100
Force push the flechettes away (or back at you), force pull the weapon out of your hands, stab with Lightsaber.
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>>27929395
>Blaster one hand
>Flechette launcher in the other
JEDI - 0
BOUNTY HUNTERS - 1
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>>27929423
Jedi also has two hand, genius.

Hold Lightsaber in one hand and Deflect blaster bolts with the Lightsaber, use other hand to disarm you using the force.

>Jedi-1
>Bounty Hunter-1

Your move
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>>27910688
i'm fairly certain they developed everything from sticks and rocks to tactical nukes and anti-proton beams a hundred thousand times over and over
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>>27929869
Planet gets blown up by the Death Star because its people had been sentenced for Treason against the state and by definition, Sheev, Affiliation with enemies of the state (Rebellion), Affiliation with a Force User, Conspiracy relating to use(s) of the force, espionnage act, Transplanetary Immigration offense and 49 other Imperial Offenses just because some dude with a beard and a hood started using rave glowsticks in public.

Jedi -9999
Bounty Hunters -9999
Sheev Palpatine's Galactic Empire +1 gorillion
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>>27929869
How can he disarm and protect himself at the same time?
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>>27910688
Because the use of real guns would likely have given Star Wars a more strict rating
Lasers = Fiction = G or PG
Guns = Reality = PG or higher
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>>27914344
>"Anon what's that in your notebook?"
>"Sand people."
>"Anon they're called Arabs."
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>>27926569
So how's battlefront? I'm downloading it for my laptop as we speak
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EP 7 armor may not look the part for some (I love it though)
But it sure as hell can handle a direct bowcaster hit
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>>27930573
can't be a bowcaster, the bolt impact was red. come on man get it together
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>>27911305

this isn't one of those threads, nerdo.
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>>27930949
In the films it fires a red bolt iirc
Only the games show the bolt as green.
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>>27911899
It was probably easier/cheaper to find lots of dwarves than it was to find lots of people who were 7' tall, to be the wookies.
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>>27923306
Makes sense when you consider that you can melt through a metal door with a lightstabre.

If metal 'bounced' off of them, then they'd be useless to slicing through walls and other sorts of armor.

Though I don't ascribe to the extension of this idea that says you'll get a face full of molten lead if you tried. The heat of the lightsabre might be enough to vaporize metal in such small quantities.
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>>27930949
Chewie's bowcaster had been damaged long before Episode 4 so he fixed it using parts from a Stormtrooper's blaster, hence the red bolts.

>>27931059
They were green in Episode 3 and the 3D Clone Wars cartoon.
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>>27930161
Jedi reflexes are rather impressive.
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>>27930949
>can't be a bowcaster
>polarizing orb clearly visible
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>>27910763
Your vest might stop a rifle bullet, but if I smack you with a big rock you will still fall down. And then some cute fuzzy bear will stab you in the neck with a sharpened stick.
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>>27914833

Let's be honest, 99% of EU was fanfiction tier crap. And the stuff people liked will return in some form.
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>>27914833
The real answer is that blasters look more exciting on film.
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>>27931689
True. If I'm watching sci-fi I want to see pew-pew, not bang-bang
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>>27931528

hell yes!
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>>27931169
Not at all, actually. There are a hundred and one film tricks you can use to make a person or group of people appear much taller than they actually are.

See: Tom Cruise in every movie he's ever done.
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>>27932541
>>27931169
Apple boxes and trenches and shoe lifts and never shooting full body with two people in the same frame, and always casting short extras.

Oddly enough I think it's actually more trouble to deal with an actor who is too tall than an actor that is too short.
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>>27923421
you really got your yub nubbed, didnt you...
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>>27914886
>all you know is there are rebels fighting them and they blow up a planet,
They blew up an ancient, peaceful core world that had no strategic value to either side as a show of force. They murdered millions as a show of force and breaking good faith to a rebel leader who they originally only threatened to destroy it to force her to reveal information.
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>>27931528
People liked Kyle Katarn >_<
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>>27932613
Hell, for a wookie costume you could get some of those seven inch boot extensions to conceal pretty easily.
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>>27914886
they were racist or rather speciest
non-humans could not hold a lot of positions and had decreased rights, and they were essentially a military Junta
during the original trilogy, they completely aboloshed the Imperial Senate, removing the last facade of democracy
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>>27928017
gotta keep in mind that the Scout Troopers' blasters were pretty weak
I always imagined them as sorta .32/.380 ACP level of power in comparison to other blasters
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>>27922719
the first character is a black woman.
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>>27932541
Also see: Desi Arnaz
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>>27934052
and?
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This seems like a good thread for this, so I'll leave these here.

Apparently the new props are based on real guns again.

We've got your real ghetto blaster right here.
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>>27936499
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>>27936504
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>>27936518

Apparently someone decided that Han Solo's blaster was cool because it was an early selfloading pistol, so they had to have their own.
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>>27930573
holy shit are those storm troopers actually aiming down their sites ?

shit i hope they are more competent this time, and by the looks of it their new armour can take a hit.
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>>27914344
I giggled
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>>27911193
URO'ROROROR
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>>27936495

Glock

>>27936499

Sig

>>27936504

G36

>>27936512

Sterling

>>27936518

Desert Eagle

>>27936524

Bergman
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>>27936495
Eh, they're too well hidden.
I want an AK with no mag and a fucking lightbulb glued on the end.
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>>27936585
Are you actually retarded? Stormtroopers have never had bad aim. If you paid attention to the movie instead of being an autist, you would have known they weren't supposed to actually kill the main characters.
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>>27923181
EOD suits won't even stop bullets. They're made for blast overpressure and frag.
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Everything that Disney has put out so far looks wrong. It looks like disneyfied shit, not from the star wars universe.
>new stormtrooper design looks like "modern" bullshit. Why change a classic design
>New X-wings changed for no reason
>shitty ball droid looks like a disney kids show, lucas would never have let that fly

All the guns itt look like paper mashe garbage
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>>27936504
Okay, most look like shit but this one looks pretty fucking cool
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>>27937373
gunz r dum
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>>27919011
>>27922719
can confirm this, a friend got the new Battlefront and it's utter shit
>no campaign
>no galactic conquest
>no space battles
>like 5 multiplayer maps
>NO CAMPAIGN
>vehicles are powerups that you find on the ground, using them makes you despawn
>max player count of 40
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>>27936999
trips of truth, but his point is that the eod suit would absorb the blast energy of the blaster.

>autists irl
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>>27937521
I bought it anyways, I loved the beta
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>>27933262
> >_<
I'd ike Kyle too if his fanboys weren't gigantic weebs like you
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>>27933262

So did I, anon. So did I.
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>>27937521
Yea, I was so hyped when I heard they were making battlefront 3. The other two were my favorite games ever, but how do you fuck up so bad?

They didn't even need to change anything, just reskin the maps, balance the vehicles and weapons better, and upgrade the graphics and it would've been amazing.

How do you fuck up this bad with millions and millions and millions of dollars into it?

> mfw I suddenly realize why people criticize the F-35
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>>27921808
Except Lucas incorporated EU elements into the films... And Kennedy purged all the stuff because (aside from the fact she didn't give a shit) Abrams and Arndt were probably all "muh artistic vision" and wouldn't do any fucking research. In short: It was Disneyfication.
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>>27937373
>>27937373
Lucas would never have let kiddie shit fly?

Are you retarded? Have you ever seen the prequels?
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>>27936512
>backwards acog
Yeah, this is gonna be one wild ride.
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>>27929395
*force teleports behind*
*ignites lightsaber*
*slices your head off*
Tsh, nothing personnel, padawan
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>>27938637
>padawan
>not youngling

One job anon, one!
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>>27910688
They're inferior to flashlights
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>>27931395
That's bullshit
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HK47 was a fun character

https://youtu.be/UPeI4mX8Nus
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>>27933882
but bro it was an E-11 that shot her
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>>27938269
>And Kennedy purged all the stuff because (aside from the fact she didn't give a shit) Abrams and Arndt were probably all "muh artistic vision" and wouldn't do any fucking research. In short: It was Disneyfication.
>Implying it wasn't to cut the absolute garbage so they could actually build a movie without all the cruft of the EU
>Implying they can't bring the good stuff back in if it fits
>Implying you aren't a tremendous faggot
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>>27937373
>>new stormtrooper design looks like "modern" bullshit. Why change a classic design
>>New X-wings changed for no reason
>>shitty ball droid looks like a disney kids show, lucas would never have let that fly

BECAUSE IT'S 34 ABY
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