Knife Thread

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>>27806120
>>27805885
>posting meme knives in perfect condition

How about you actually use them you greasy fuck

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>>27806177
cause they are recent additions?

anyway just got the nilakka this week and have a superblue strech on the way

the manix2 got cleaned out finally after a good time

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>>27805885
nice miceotech, im not a fan of balisongs yet and the esse is nice, but its out of my range of use which is edc

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>>27805885
Terrible friend, you seem to have bought garbage.

>>27806177
Please explain "meme knife" These aren't sebbies.

>>27807109
saw you post that earlier. It's a great looking knife. What is it?

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>>27807241
spyderco nilakka

its a pretty good cutter and smooth as it looks

>>27806177
I use the hell out of this 630, just really anal about blade cleanliness

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>>27805885
This just came in today.

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>>27805885

Pretty darn good I 'd say. I'm jelly.

Here are my recent knives.

Bottom one is a Yoshikane. By far the sharpest knife out of the box I've had, beating the previous champion my Emerson. It's impossible to run your finger lightly on the edge without it cutting you. Cuts through a sheet of paper just by using gravity.

The Shun I got for 50% and I needed a paring knife so why not? It's pretty dull for a knife of it's quality, but still cuts the hair on my arm and catches my finger if I give a little pressure. Utterly fails the paper test though. Going to take it to get professionally sharpened soon.

The Benchmade I've had for a while but I lost the screws for the clip. Just recently got new ones in it so it's back to being my daily carry. Wicked sharp since I got it professionally sharpened over a year ago.

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got it less than a year ago, recent enough

>>27807806
dat sexy wear

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>>27807554

What's the cheapest /k/ approved knife?

>>27808059
Probably Opinel No. 8 Carbon or Mora Companion.

Which also happen to be the cheapest /out/ approved knives.

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Any of you know anything about about sm100 steel? Is it the best thing that happened to knives since sliced bread?

>>27806177
>Thinking meme is an insult

Newfag as fuck

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>>27807806
Same here, friend

Also bought a Glock brand Glock knife this week for shits and giggles, only $30.00 so I figured I'll give it a try.

>>27807163
Out of /k/ for months and Sebenza guy is still here. Life's good.

>>27808134
Why the Carbone and not the stainless version?

>>27809799
If only I could spot some vp9 guy too I'd be enjoying my day. Well time to go apply some freeze away to my shaft since I have a wart on my cock.

(stay away from chinese hookers.)

Help me /k/
I'm a new police officer and I need a good knife or two.
I don't know anything about knives. Do I need a folding knife or a regular one. What brands are the best. I need something that will last me a long time so I don't mind paying a bit for one.

>>27809835
Ontario RAT1.

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>>27809835

depends on your budget, and, of course, intended use.

Folders:
Benchmade
Spyderco
Zero Tollerance

Fixed Blades:
ESEE
TOPS (they have some good designs, and a crud ton of riddiculous ones)
LT Wright - especially LTWK. Their prices hover around 120-200 dollars, but the quality you get is far superior to knives three times the price. Check out this vid (especially at the 13:00 mark):
https://youtu.be/RCQR6xymR2g?t=789

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newbie knife enthusiast here, my three most prized knives, ive got others but theyre kinda junk.

r8?

>>27809451
No, neither nickel, nor titanium are good at holding an edge, be a great knife for absolute corrosion resistance though in case you need to pry or stab someone underwater.

>>27807806
>>27809790
>serrations
For what purpose.

>>27810150
>inb4 cutting rope

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>>27810150
People who use their knives in the real world often encounter things that would fuck up a fine edge.

>>27810150
>>27810160
Considering the Triage is designed as a rescue knife, the serrations I feel are completely excusable on this one.


>The the new Image captcha is bullshit

>>27808134
My vote goes to the Kershaw Thistle.

Great blade shape, strong lock, decent but not fantastic steel, less than $15 retail.

>>27810192
fairymuff

>street signs are the best

>>27810183
Get a saw.

>>27810288
Saws and the serrations usually found on knives generally do not serve the same purpose. Also, people ain't got time for that shit. It'd be nice to have every tool available at all times, but that isn't how things work.

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Is the Zero tolerance 0300st a quality knife?

>>27810901

People say they are, but I hate them. For the money I'd get an Emerson or a high end Spyderco.

Don't like the ZT because they are ungodly thick in the handles and very heavy. The blades are a weird shape and very thick also. Not so good for most EDC cutting.

>>27805885
I'm jealous OP. Those are some nice knives. How much did they set you back? 500?

Thinking about getting a new Spyderco soon.

>Paramilitary 2
$118 bucks or so

>Manix 2
$94

>Caly
$125

>Delica 4 Stainless Scales
$77

Not really comparing apples to apples on them, but I have no idea which one yet. I have other knives just looking to add something.

Also maybe some spyderco kitchen knives

>>27810183
>the real world

so cardboard boxes

>>27811113
Manix 2.because the tip isnt as thin as the pm 2 and isnless likely to break.

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its in the mail as we speak.

am i tacticool?

>>27811179
feel free to kill yourself sooner rather than later

>>27811217
u mad at my legit edc carry gear that ill post on instagram with super hdr filters?

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>>27811179

>under 100 dollerydoos
>being a poorfag and not getting an Emerson

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>>27811179
Quartermaster Knives are literally the gayest shit I have ever seen

>pic related

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>>27811446
>pic related

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>>27811452
>pic related

>>27810113
It can hold an amazing edge for what I've read, the only problem is the big ass price other than that it's amazing.

>>27811133
Or ram board, or masonite, or various synthetic materials. Besides, there's really no reason to cut cardboard boxes unless you're making a display, you usually just cut the tape.

Do you not even open cardboard boxes, Anon?

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>>27806177

Hahahahaha, as if any of these faggots use their knives for anything except pocket jewelry and operat0r fantasy objects.

Just like 90%+ of pocket knife buyers, most of these faggots don't even know how to sharpen. Just look at all the factory edges in these threads.

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>>27807791
>the sharpest knife out of the box I've had
>Cuts through a sheet of paper just by using gravity.
>Going to take it to get professionally sharpened soon.
>Wicked sharp since I got it professionally sharpened over a year ago.

Ladies and gentlemen, your typical /k/nife thread faggot.

A knife being able to cut paper makes it sharp? Your Benchmade is still "Wicked sharp" since it was sharpened A YEAR AGO?

Confirmed for never having even handled an actually sharp knife.

>>27810901

That depends, do you want a knife that is good as pocket jewelry, or a knife that is actually good for cutting stuff?

If you want the former, sure, ZT is awesome. If the latter, it's a terrible choice because the blade is too thick, the grind is too thick, recurves are time consuming to sharpen, and serrations are shit in use and to sharpen.

I would buy a Benchmade or non-collaboration Spyderco every time.

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rare bladeshow shit havent found another digi tanto in a while

>>27812587
No, if it is a nickel-titanium alloy, it won't hold an edge amazingly well. These are the material properties of a nickel-titanium steel alloy, and they cannot be avoided.

It might be an AMAZING compromise for wear resistance and corrosion resistance, but looking JUST at wear resistance, it will fall short compared to high-carbons or CPM vanadium steels.

This is chemistry.

>>27811335
Emerson is shit anon

>>27813412
Thanks for the explanation. Are you a chemist?

>>27813805
No, just an engineer who took a few material science classes as part of his curriculum, and who collects knives.

It's just the way the metal lattice structures form in alloys; titanium and nickel are both soft base metals and make the steel softer. Cobalt, Chromium, and Vanadium tend to make the steel harder.

It all varies based on the heat treat (which changes the grain and lattice structure, and the intricacies are outside my area of expertise), but this is the general rule of thumb.

Steels in general are a game of compromise. You can have the hardest, sharpest knife ever and it'll chip cutting a branch. You can have the most flexible knife ever, but its edge will fold cutting a branch.

SM-100 is probably an excellent compromise of wear resistance (hardness, edge retention) and corrosion resistance (rust-prevention) [I don't have any experience with it, I can't say I have first-hand experience or data tables], but each of these factors might be lesser than another steel.

It'll have less wear resistance than a high-carbon, but more corrosion-resistance. It'll have more wear resistance than a Titanium knife, but less corrosion-resistance.

Can anyone recommend a good knife for camping/hunting?

>>27814242
Condor bushlore.

>>27813893
Is it possible, at least in theory, make the "perfect steel"? A material that has all the good properties from each different type of steel without the cons.

>>27814294
4" blade with no serrations?
I'm not a knife guy, but really?

>>27814370
>I'm not a knife guy

No shit.

>>27814347
Not the guy you were asking, but no

Different steel compositions-- carbide content, chromium content, carbon content and so on and so forth are what give different steel different properties in edge retention, durability, ability to take a razor edge etc.

But the different materials interact with eachother so it's not just a matter of "adding" more chromium for a more stainless blade.

Steel does benefit from different heat treating processes however, so perhaps a blade that is relatively soft (as such nice and easy to sharpen) on paper based on its composition can be hardened up via heat treatment to give a longer lasting edge capability

>>27813893
Back again, had to do some stuff.
>>27814347

With steels, the answer is no, as >>27814415
said. However, the military has put funding into violently welding metals that normally can't be welded. For example, they've successfully welded steel and aluminum by essentially setting off an explosive and slamming the two materials together.

This can open up whole new branches of material science by allowing hybrid materials to be created. Example: you want to create a rod that bends to the left, so that the left side is in compression and the right is in tension. You violently weld two metals, let's say aluminum on the left and steel on the right. This would allow you to benefit from the compressive qualities of soft aluminum and the ductility of steel on the right.

It's still in its early stages; there needs to be a better way to fuse metals than to slam them against each other at high speeds and temperatures, but the possibilities are promising.

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Mora Precision Pro, $17.

>>27812614
not him but there are regular large boxes that wont fit in the bailer, and cutting some down to size to get them to the bailer makes life easier also

>>27813308
listened to someone at work talk about their $160 ken onion CRKT and how hes "used" it for a year and hasnt had to sharpen it yet.

>okay
>uses all the time

>>27814370
half serrated blades are less useful, not really enough serrations, not really enough edge.

Id rather have the edge

>>27815374
So thats what they do when they oversharpen their knives...smart.

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This is a call to al Busse fags

I repeat

This is a call to all Busse fags

I need precise info on this knife.

Pics are not mine, But I own this exact one here. Not the same model, that exact one.

It's a basic 11 right? INFI? I bought it as a basic 9 through a trusted retailer second hand, and I guess that must have been an error from their part.

Any info on it? Is it very rare?

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>>27818258

Another picture.

These are fro the ar15 forum, some american sold it.

Funny enough, now it is with me in Spain.

I'm asking because the BUSSE logo is a bit far to the left compared to the rest I've seen, although I dont really doubt it is legit

>>27815413

Jesus fucking Christ. This is why I can't go on knife forums, the masses of people who think a knife is still sharp after a year of use (and therefore neither know what "sharp" or "use" mean) trigger the fuck out of my autism.

>>27818258
>>27818265
You might want to contact Busse directly about that.

>>27811113
The Delica Stainless isnt FFG from memory and makes it an inferior knife IMO

>>27813805
>>27813893
>and corrosion resistance (rust-prevention) [I don't have any experience with it

I work with both Nickel and Titanium and they're both excellent in terms of corrosion resistance. Problem is with something like Ti in a knife blade is it's a bitch to work with,
>it clogs your abrasive like Aluminium whilst being extremely hard on the abrasives
>but it combines this with being a fairly soft metal inherently and being fairly non conductive so it's very prone to burning where you're working/sharpening it.

So it's a bitch to sharpen/work and yet provides inferior edge handling characteristics to most modern Stainless steels.

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>>27818258
>>27818265
>Another picture.
>literally just the same picture flipped and mirrored

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>>27821116
>Logo is visible in one pic
>Logo is not visible in the other

>>27807070
>Dat Kershaw boot knife

I really wish they still made those

>>27810039
Starting out, you're going pretty good. I would say7.5-8/10

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>not buying a Buck
>being unamerican

>>27809790
How do you like your glawk knife? Considering getting one now. Wanted a ka-bar but that looks bretty nice for cheaper.

>>27823383
Just got it this week, so haven't tried it out yet. It can be used to open beer bottles though. Needed to be worked over in the sharpener too. It seems decent for the price thiugh.

>>27823383
get the version without a saw

>>27813308
>A knife being able to cut paper makes it sharp?

Yeah, it kind of does. How easily and fast you can do it shows how sharp it is. If you try cutting it with a dull knife it will just bend the paper, a sharp one will just go right through it like it wasn't there.

>>27813308
>Your Benchmade is still "Wicked sharp" since it was sharpened A YEAR AGO?

Yeah. But half the time I didn't use it because it was broken and when I did use it, it cut nothing more than boxes. Even with that light use to have it be just as sharp as it was after sharpening is impressive.

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>>27805885
Thoughts?
Flash 2 is for use in the surf or whenever I know I will be going in water.

>>27823624
Just put that bastard on a lansky sharpener and it'll be shaving sharp. Not the easiest shave, but it'll get the job done. Beyond that, I don't really see why guys here always need atom slicing knives. Why do you need your knives so sharp that you would bother to spend all that extra money?

>>27823624

Being able to cut paper is the bare minimum standard for a knife not to be butter knife dull. A sharp knife, even at 400 grit, should be able to push cut newsprint with the grain at 90 degrees and trivially slice newsprint. With a polished edge it should be able to push cut newsprint across the grain at 90 degrees.

A knife should be re-sharpened well before it gets dull enough to strugle to cut paper cleanly. Hell, I would consider it to need a touch up if it struggled to slice newsprint cleanly.

Also, I consider the vast majority of factory edges so dull as to require sharpening when the knife is new, particularly because most production knives are belt sharpened which often weakens the edge by overheating it enough to undo some/all of the heat treat. I would be sharpening a knife used to break down cardboard boxes at least weekly and keeping it touched up between each use.

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>>27824316

Because spending a bunch of money on knives when you can't sharpen very well is putting the cart before the horse.

If you have the patience to learn to freehand sharpen, you can take a knife that won't cut copy paper and get it push-cutting newsprint with the grain at 90 degrees in literally 5 minutes.

Okay, people like me who get into sharpening as a hobby can also spend the extra time to get absurdly push-cutting sharp edges, but that part isn't really necessary, just fun.

>>27824397
So pretty much just for hobby then? Realistically it seems like a case of diminished returns, meaning after a certain point the sharpness only really matters to hobbyists. Absolutely no disrespect though. I would just say sharpen to the point where you are satisfied with performance, different people may be satisfied at different sharpnesses. Very impressive skills btw.

>>27824475

The point of diminishing returns is when you start going to very high grit finishes. Learning to freehand with coarser stones can get you a very sharp edge in 5-10 mins tops.

For example, I could take a dull knife, shape the edge bevel on a 250 grit stone for 2 mins, a 1,000 grit stone for another 2 mins, and apply a micro bevel with a Spyderco Sharpmaker with the medium rods and get an apex that will push cut newsprint with and across the grain. That is less than 10 mins total for even a pretty high level of push cutting sharpness.

For a course edge that is good at slicing and lasts longer before getting dull, i would use my 250 grit waterstone followed by a 400 grit diamond plate to finish the edge. Total time: 5 minutes tops.

In both cases we are talking about edges WAY sharper (and stronger) than you typically get on brand new knives. Anyone can learn to do this, there is no magic in it.

Really, I think it's crazy to spend hundreds (or thousands) of dollars in knives and not learn how to keep them sharp.

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Latest aqusition. Did i do ok?

>>27824597

Besides the serrations, and if you got it for under $20 like I did, then yes. Makes a nice slick beater knife.

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>>27807271

Very very nice!

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>>27808040
who gives a fuk nigga?

>>27810039
bad
bad bad bad
0/10 not even being a dick
especially if your others are somehow worse than those

Anybody wanting a spyderco caly 3 better auction fast they are going to be discontinued come 2016

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>>27825576
>wanting garbage

>>27813363
Blade looks cool, but that handle is fugly.

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I bought a 30$ Chinese folder, can I join your club?

>>27827668
overpaid by $20

>>27808134
>morakniv
>/out/ approved

The must have low standards, you can't even baton with that toy.

>opinel
>ever

if all you are using it or is food prep or cutting tap/ fishing line, maybe, anything else? GOD NO

who decides what is approved by who, because I have come to observe in my time that human beings are daft.

And if a bunch of idiots can reach a consensus, how does that ever make them anything more than the blind leading the blind?

>>27808059

This is 4chan, where going outside is a fantasy within itself, let alone actually using a knife for its intended purpose instead of just practising your homemade knife-kata style.

Disregard anything anyone says, except this:
Do research, trial and error, and find out for yourself.

And never buy a Mora knife for "outdoor use" unless its low intensity, great for anything at home though.

for 'medium use folders' ESEE Avispa and Zancudo are both great, nice designs, solid frame locks (about as "heavy duty" as folders can get in their price range) and decent enough and easy to maintain AUS8 steel.

For "hard use" fixed blades always.
Don't buy a lame 'bowie knife' the tips are super fragile, consider a "KA-BAR Mark I" Navy Knife, great length and shape makes them really useful for everything, or even consider the full length Marine Raider classic KA-BAR.

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>>27824679
thanks, i had a mcusta. fell apart under not what id consider rough, occasional box, food prep, lots of pocket time since i was a resturant manager at the time.

Lost pieces developed lots of blade rock.

it was a shame because the blade was one of my favorites even compared to a seb25 i had. It held an edge long enough and was easy to sharpen and sharpened to a wicked edge.

It was one of the models with a damascus vg10 core and aluminum handles, would have to look it up as the experience as a whole has me turned off the brand, as either it was the particular knife, or just more than the knife can take in which case its of no use to me since i currently need more out of my knives.

This nilakka can cut through some tough stuff.

Your mcusta looks very nice and i already know that blade is a a winner, i seriously hope it holds up for you as the overall dimension and materials of the knife is real nice

i have a superblue spyderco stretch en route and am eagerly awaiting the Firefly and will likely get a dragonfly2 and GB2 and positron. Spyderco makes to many excellent products for me and it drives me a little nuts. Also very interested in ZT 0450 and 0808.

>>27824556
i dont understand the point of sending my knife back for the free sharpen. why not learn to sharpen yourself.

i upped my game slightly with a lansky and leather strop though i think some bench stones as i would love to be able to freehand sharppen my knives to my liking.

>>27824239
940 is nice, i prefer a straight edge, but its all moot point, havnt seriously considered a BM since the end of 2013 when they did a pretty solid price enforcement jump overnight.

>>27822611
i was happy to find it, bought it a while ago.

May sell it at some point, may not. Not a lot of use for it and it just sits around

>>27818782
i havnt noticed it. Frankly i cut boxes and plastic a lot at work, my nilakka gets wicked sharp and noticeably duller after a shift or two. due to all the plastic cardboard and tape it may slide down. It has a working edge still and still cuts, but ill touch it up and strop because i prefer it to be more sharp especially since i do cut lots of product that is shrink wrapped and better control of the edge keeps the product from being damaged while the shrink wrap falls away. The nilakka is just awesome at this. It will seem for a second that nothing was cut, then i yank away the plastic.

>>27827764
>Spends entire post calling other people stupid
>Is stupid

Par for the /k/ourse, I guess.

>>27827956
more like the internet

>>27827764

Hold on, I don't think you can universally dismiss Morakniv or Opinel that way. It's all a question of I tended scope of use, is it not? If you carry a hatchet what cutting task are you going to be doing that a Mora wouldn't be able to handle? As far as I have heard, they are plenty strong enough for anything except batoning. They are also a good value, and Scandi grinds are great for beginners to sharpening.

The Opinel I wouldn't use for anything more than light use, yes, but that is what it is designed for. It's cheap, light, and actually has a cutting geometry on it. I don't see the problem as long as you aren't carving wood with it.

Also, for hard use, why not ESEE's fixed blades? Toughness tempered 1095 should be able to stand up to anything within spitting distance of reason, no?

>>27827899

If you will take some advice from someone who has tried every sort of benchstone from DMT and Atoma plates, Norton India and Crystolon oil stones, Spyderco bench stones, and a bunch of Japanese waterstones:

Learn to freehand on waterstones. They are much easier to learn on that the other options because they give more audible and tactile feedback when you are on the correct angle, and they have a higher cutting speed while leaving a finer finish at any given grit.

I would start with an Atoma 140 plate or DMT XXC to flatten the waterstones and then depending on whether you liked to use medium or very light pressure I would choose Naniwa Chosera 400 grit and 1k grit stones (if medium) or Sigma Power Select II 250 and 1k stones (if very light).

>>27828791

>ESEE

Please stop it. STAHP IHT!!!

Why are they so shilled? I bet the dont do too good.

ESEE are by far not the best knives 2xtreme4u you can get, even at that price.

>b-but muh warranty !!

It has been proven shit. They will not fix handle damage or "intentional" bs. The lifetime warranty is just there as a marketing bonus, so people will spend hundreds on a chunk of 1095.

>>27827764
Yup, you're retarded, kid.

>>27829139
they will fix intentional damage. The warranty does NOT extend to the few stainless models they have.

ESEE has a good reputation for good reason. the Izula II is a great edc knife - not too big, not too small, built like a tank - if you can get away with carrying a fixed blade, and can afford an Izula II, there is absolutely no reason to edc a folder.

Of course, you can do better than the Izula II - LTWK Nexg Gen for example, or a few others.
Obviously, this does not apply to people who can edc a full size fixed blade without any problems.

>>27827764
If you plan on batoning, carry a small axe. It can do the same knife related tasks your batoning knife can do, and it can also baton with greater reliability, because its a fucking axe. And that way there's no risk of breaking the one blade you brought with you, and lower risk of injury to yourself.

>consider a "KA-BAR

Oh whoops, you're not serious. Never mind, carry on.

>>27824326

christ, either get a knife with better steel or learn to grind to a utility edge instead of some faggot mirror polish razor bullshit

>>27829281
I don't see an izula as a good edc knife because of it being made of 1095 poor steel.

>>27829281
>>27829654

1095 heat treated to maximize toughness is pretty close to ideal for a hard-use /out/ knife, since toughness and ease of sharpening should be prioritized well above wear resistance for that scope of work.

I would specifically avoid steels with high carbide contents for this application. 3V may be tougher, but it going to be a pain to field sharpen.

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>>27829372

>Utility edge

That's another word for dull, used by people who have never even handled a sharp knife.

My 400-grit edges push cut newsprint with the grain at 90 degrees you know nothing clueless moron. Across the grain is off a 1,000 grit edge-bevel and a Spyderco medium rod micro-bevel in less than 5 minutes. Go waste some more money on butter knife dull pocket jewelry and desired self-image projection objects.

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Got pic related a while ago, been helping me out at work a ton

Any idea on how to properly sharpen the serrations that won't require shelling out for a professional sharpening?

On the sharp dialogue, I really don't know where to stand, this one came out of the box quite dull, and I got it to a workable edge with a little pocket sharpener, not even close to paper cut, barely catches on my thumbnail. Any tips on how to better sharpen it, or would I have to get more serious work done? Thanks in advance

>>27829797
Here's a tip: Stop buying from shitty companies.

>>27829797
Just get a thin file and run it down the grooves

>>27829836
>>27829844
th-thanks

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>>27829797
you dont sharpen it for hair popping, push cut stuff. you want a utility edge. as for the serrations, go to hardware store and get a sharpening rod, under 10 bucks. itll be obvious how to use it

>>27829836
fuck outta here

>>27829876
Dat buyers remorse.

>>27829721
>hard-use /out/ knife =/= daily light edc tasks. When dealing with food 1095 will rust like there's no tomorrow. It's a cheap, entry level steel.

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This is my first and only real knife, Ontario Knife Company RAT II
I fucking love it, but where should I go from here? Preferably under forty five dollars.

>>27829900

Okay, but hard use /out/ knives was literally the context within which ESEE knives were being discussed.

Also, depending on how it is heat treated, 1095 can be made very tough, or very hard with an extremely fine grain structure. 1095 at ~62 HRC with a triple quench makes a very good western approximation of Japanese white and blue steels highly prized for kitchen cutlery.

Steels cannot be simplified into "cheap" vs "high end", a lot depends on heat treat and which properties you are looking for.

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>>27829896
lick my ass papa smurf

>>27829970
Enjoy your shitty hollowed out tang.

>>27811113
The Caly 3 is being discontinued.
Might want to get it for resale value and many consider it one of their best knives.
But the only one out of those that I own is the para which i would highly recommend

Is this a good first time edc knife /k/?

http://www.amazon.ca/Columbia-River-Knife-Tools-M16-03Z/dp/B001PH9MBU/ref=sr_1_8?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1447008332&sr=1-8&keywords=crkt

>>27830556
Nice blade geometry, but CRKT is a bit shit most of the time.

>>27830638
This, all the ones I have handled felt kinda cheaply made. It will do most things the average edc user will need though.

>>27830556
This is better. http://www.amazon.ca/Ontario-8848-Folding-Knife-Black/dp/B0013ASG3E/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1447010920&sr=8-1&keywords=ontario+rat+folder

>>27828824
cool, ive coppied and saved this to notepad

thanks.

What i have now is far better than what ive been scrapping by on, a diamond rod kitchen sharpener. but i think theres room to improve especially with the various angle edges not always being what the lansky says to to distance of the edge from the clamp and blade geometry and such. The steeper angle is great for my nilakka as the s30v from what i gather cant be too lean on the edge, one of the problems with the first nilakkas and the heat from the factory grinding sharpening.

I have a Super Blue model coming in and it could take a lower edge angle than the nilakka but lower on the lansky can be difficult and stones will allow me to better take advantage of different steels as the collection grows.

>>27829372
assuming youre the guy with the BM sharpened a year ago that is just as sharp as ever....

Youre not using it that much. Im glad youre happy with youre knife and im glad it cuts well for you when you do use it.

>>27829934
spend 50ish on a spyderco dragonfly2 with vg-10. Though what youre looking for needs wise would be a place to start.

You did well with the rat, ive never had one but i hear all about it from people who buy on all ends of the spectrum. and when you hear enough from a wide enough spectrum, theres usually a reason.

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>>27830864

You would be fine going lower on the nilakka edge angle by hand, the issue was from Spyderco belt sharpening them too thin, because a belt grinder generates a lot of heat which can damage the heat treatment. Hand grinding will never generate enough heat to damage a head treatment.

I have a couple of Spyderco in Aogami Super that I thinned out the primary grind on a fair bit and then re-profiled the edge bevel to ~6-8 dps, takes one hell of a push-cutting edge. Pic related.

>>27810150
To trigger autistic fucks like you.

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Picked up 5 Barrages at Benchmade in Oregon the other day for $86 a piece. Also got a tour of the factory.

>>27831068
want to send me one

>>27830906
yes i read about the heat from their sharpening making a negative impact on the edge and it makes sense. The blade is short from edge to spine and with the thickness differences makes it hard to go to the 17 degree setting. ive been using the 20, but ill give the 17 a shot and see if i cant get it to work. Ive been using the nilakka at work more and its really nice so far. Plastic tape and cardboard.

the lansky and an old leather belt are working much better than my almost non existent prior setup, but i see room for improvement and a more direct control of the angle looks promising.

Im very excited, my Super Blue is a stretch. Shoulda been here yesterday, but it looks like its coming in tomorrow. USPS is kinda spotty. Took over two days for it go from texas to louisiana after it was marked having left texas. Im very excited to to try this steel out.

>>27811446
>GEE Bill TWO thumb screws!

>>27829654
>>27829900
You have zero idea what you're talking about.

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Can anyone explain what the clip thing on the tip of my sheath is for? I have no idea why it's on there.
>pic related new kukri and sheath in question

>>27831505
>Buying the knockoff Ontario kukri when the real thing is only $50

For shame.

If you're referring to that loop, it's for tying the sheath to your leg so it doesn't flop around.

>>27823094
>american

Sorry I don't speak kek.

>>27831526
Eh w/e.
Thanks

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Picked this up last week, baby's first. Was debating the Ontario RAT1, but saw this in the related. Not a fan of the childish font on the other side.

http://www.amazon.com/Ontario-8908-Utiliac-Folding-Knife/dp/B002VXVOPY/

>>27823094
>Buck Nobleman
>made in USA
pick one

>>27807554
What steel?

>>27831799
I was not aware that Ontario was putting their dumb new logo all over their blades like that. I can't imagine what possessed them to do that.

Anyone have any experience with the condor Hudson Bay knife? I just bought one on an impulse buy it also was cheap.

>>27811446
This isn't gay by my Standards.

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What about a trail hawk?

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Closeup of the other side of the head

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>>27833382
>>27833414
Explain this shit

>>27833502
You're almost out of battery. Explain what? I posted both in the /k/ and /out/ knife general.

>>27833502
>Mobileposting

>>27810901
For the money I'd just go with Benchmade.

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>90% people here don't even know what these are.

>>27835113
Modern puukos

>>27805885

>>27833561

>>27835113

Because most people here dont know shit about knives in general.

I'm going to Finland next year, can those be found in regular knife or outdoors shops?

I'm not staying in Helsinki and I cannot go to Varusteleka

>>27835140
Sissipuukko M/95 and M/07. Truly awesome pieces of metal.

>>27835166
Those can mostly be found in military oriented stores such as Varusteleka and Inttistore. Don't remember seeing them elsewhere. Regular outdoor stores only have traditional puukkos. You could order them for example through Varusteleka's webstore while you are here. The delivery is quite fast. Don't know how hard international delivery would be because knives are considered dangerous for some reason.

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Only new knife is the super old grape cutter's knife at the bottom.

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>>27805885

got a bayonet for the CETME, fits perfectly, shit is thick as hell, tempting to give it a nice edge tonight.

>>27834695
zt gives you a real solid product for the money

BM did At least a 35% jump in price overnight right at the end of 2013 and even more so on some other models. Pretty juch just because, with out any sort of improvement in the product to match the price.

they have a few models i like and would like to pick up someday but they are priced from $140-$200 and i can get some real neat stuff in that price range.

The ZT 300 series is very well built, uses great materials, great CS. And hasnt done any surprise price jumps as of late.

The combo edge on the 300 line would likely be a bitch to sharpen with the recurve and the serrations.

Any recommendations for a cheap but decent set of whetstones? It'll mostly be used for kitchen knives, but I'm learning Bladesmithing and will use them for putting the final edge on them.

>>27831465
Yeah good for you, enjoy your rusty steel, senpai.
https://youtu.be/JWFKq7VQdy8

>>27836488
Yeah good for you, you still have zero idea what you're talking about. Enjoy a life of mediocrity, kōhai.

>>27836488

>not taking care of your blades

mediocre...


I have used different steels as my edc knives - 1095, D2, VG10, s30v, s35vn, elmax, 1075 - if you know what you're doing, and take care of your blades, they won't rust on you.

>>27835221

lamnia.com delivers all across the EU, and I believe they stock them as well.

>>27836900
Tbh life's good, rusted anon.

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>>27837226
Of course you'd think that, ignorance is bliss.

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Spyderco- knives designed by people with downs syndrome since 1982

>>27829752
>wasting hundreds on knives just so you can brag about cutting paper
>eats shit and gets sent straight to the factory when put under any real world stress

ok pal
keep bragging about your spydershit pocket jewel while we use knives we can depend on for actual application

>>27837342
Usually don't post in knife threads because I'm a huge knife nerd and can't stand the dumb shit that gets slung around- However...

Not sure if that image is "new" or not, but I totally agree. Many manufacturers (and especially "custom" guys) have been producing some of the most retarded useless designs and pushing them out to the consumer.

I have a few spydeco knives: Couple dragonflies, delica... Ya know, NORMAL looking knives.

Pisses me right off when I see some half serrated sheeps foot, curved as fuck handle atrocity. What would you use that for? Scraping the underside of your taint with a mirror?

Even worse is that people pay for the shit.
I'm convinced that anything half-serrated is put out there soley for people who don't know shit about knives to go "look at that!" and buy it.

Standard edge, full serrated, or bowie/large survival blade with opposite edge serrations- That's it.

I made the mistake long ago: Bought a Kershit Blur half serrated tanto. Yeah, it looks cool, but it's the most USELESS blade shape I own in my collection. Kick myself every time I look at it.

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>>27825838

>>27837394
i see one knife of what is pictured in that spyderco pic that i like, but im glad they make all of them. That looks like a relatively small sample from them. I love when they do sprints in different steels. Spyderco puts out tons of style with tons of handle selections, steel types, and finishes. Im not gonna like it all, but they they will put many variations of the same knives and they will try stuff off the beaten path also.

Bottom middle is a stainless kiwi which is actually a very good knife with the warncliff blade and a narrow blade also and makes for an excellent slicer. I dont like the all stainless version, but whenever i feel the need to pick that one up, it also comes in g10. Its not high on my list, but it could be a useful knife

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>>27837394
To me spyderco symbolizes the separation of knife from tool, turning them into useless "pocket jewelry" so retards can buy 50 of them and jack off to their glorious super steelz that have never cut anything tougher than paper

I'm a delica owner btw. Some of their models are decently practical IE the dragonfly and delica, but 90% of their knives have absolute shit design, which they keep pumping out year after year for some reason. They often have pathetically small cutting edges for the length and weight, fragile tips, not compact at all when closed, and I can't believe people actually LIKE having a gaping hole in their blade.

Spyderco has good build quality and materials, but without proper design this is meaningless.

Benchmade also has a design problem these days, but it's the opposite in nature. They have let their designs stagnate and "get comfortable" with no real innovation or will to try anything new. They keep falling back to the same stuff over and over again which is OK, but something of a shame since they could apply their great build quality to better designs if they put their heart into it. I would give credit to Spyderco innovation and trying new things except they do it in a completely retarded way and only make nonsense.

Only company that has been nailing designs consistently this past while is Kershaw. They just need to up the materials and they'll be on top

Pic is my favorite spyderco

>>27837378
eh define real world stress. Actual application, my knives are made to cut, and they do that well and cut anything you need cut in a warehouse day to day.

he talked about paper in refrence to what the guy said about his knife that has the same edge after a year, doesnt claim use which is awonder to bring it up if it isnt getting used; you would expect a sharpened knife to be sharp still after a while if it hasnt been used. If it has then its not much since every edge wears with use and if you cant wear it out in a year you pretty much dont use it.

i use the knives from day to day and cut whatever and everything goes well. A folder not used like folder will suffer over time from that misuse. Thats why they still make both fixed and folding. Right tool for the job

You dont have to buy a super nice knife if you dont want to. Thats fine. I like nicer knives and they are useful to me and worth it over more budget oriented lines. So i buy them and use them.

>>27837490
I mean... I guess I "get it" in that they want variety in their line...

I suppose I'd rather collect unique variants of the same model over a knife that's put out there just to be "unique." If that makes sense...

90% of my collection have the "user first" mentality behind them- I wouldn't be worried about actually using them. Problem with the knives we have in question is- "What would you even use it for?"

Yeah, my decked out Infidel isn't going to be cutting a hot dog stick around the fire any time soon, but it still the same design.
Those special snowflake designs are glorified box cutters imo. Designed mainly to attract the uninformed, not to preform.

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>>27837514
I agree to most of those points. Never liked Kershaw, never will. Every damn blade I have from them (just so happens all of mine are assisted opening) develop a rattle after playing with them. Plus the the fact that I don't like how Ken Onion plasters his name on anything he's associated with. Pissed me right off when the Strider/Onion collaboration ZT came out- Guess who's name was on the knife? -Not Strider.

I also really like the wave pattern.

Some spyderco fanboys get really flustered when I show them my EDC dragonfly- Mini zip tie mod as a thumb stud in lieu of the "spyder hole." Lmao.

Pic related: EDC blades (probably posted this pic a shitload in the past)

>>27837514
i can see having a few versions of one in particular if it stands out to me due to the different steel types but they make enough different models for me to select a few different useful knives with different steels, or the same steel if i like it that much. I have a manix2 and a nilakka, both in s30v with a stretch in superblue due any day.
I use the knives and work in a warehouse, the nilakka is very new, but it performs well through plastics and cardboard. The construction quality is great on both mine and all prior models i have had. Buying knives that are designed to be used for the tasks you do is important. if you wind up with pocket jewlery because you bought a knife to do something it wasnt made for, than its not the knife's fault. I buy knives to cut. Mainly carboard, various plastics, cloth, and food. My spydercos do it very well.
The hole works well for me, its easy to use and even heavier knives as whole are not very noticeable. My cellphone and its case with battery reserve rides in a pocket and weighs more, so its just not really an issue. If its not really your thing, that is fine, you dont have to like what i like. Because it doesn’t make sense to you doesn’t mean they are worthless.

>>27837533
my method to buying is that way. It has to be a knife i can use daily, im not spending that much on something to look at, or ill sell it off or trade it.

Litterally that one in the middle on the bottom is the only one that i could use, but there are others that i could use that i just plain like better that keep it low on the list. Though as a slicer the Kiwi has a very good rep. The rest of them, i dont know either man.

but luckily they do put out many variants of the same model so you can do that. I like all the variants, i may not get multiples right away, but it lets me snag new models and try out different steels all at the same time. The world isnt only S30V afterall. I dont really get the sprints that are just a different handle color, though they dont seem to charge much more than normal if at all for those. Not too sure, i dont really pay attention to it. Its not a different feature that has performance impact. But spyderco is good at pumping out many different useful options so its fine to me if they make stuff that doesnt strike me as useful.

Most of those dont really look like box cutters. either though. yeah they would work like anything else would just work, but theres better general purpose knives. Gotta get em lured off of budk somehow i suppose.

>>27837557
i should try the ziptie one day, i got no opinion on it as i havnt tried it.

its your knife. If a ziptie makes it work a way that makes you like it better, awesome. Its good make your stuff work better for you if it needs to.

>>27837514
my supersteels do more than paper. i dont do crazy shit like cut other "lesser" steels with it. It seems though youre getting at the people that get off on S110v like its made 1095 irrelevant.
if so, then yeah i agree with you. Steels like s30v are nice for what they can do which is corrosion resistance and edge retention. The nilakka i got would have been nice to see in a different steel, but they went s30v and probably sold a few just because of that.

Mine works well in s30v. it cuts on a different level than my manix2 it goes through quite a bit of general shit and the edge is holding up fine (early ones had fucked heat tread do to the power sharpeners at the factory heating the edges and messing up the heat treat and combine with s30 on a true FFG isnt the best option) But even then it excels as a slicer.

People like to be carried away.

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just a reminder, that you don't really *need* anything above 1075.

Sure, it's nice when your steel is 10 times better than it needs to be, instead of "just" 4 times better, but most of the time it is superficial.

My edc knife is D2, and it will stand up to any knife posted in this thread, sebongo included.

>>27807271
Nice choice, I'm gonna order one of those for a gift for my dad.

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>>27831068
Mah nigga

>>27837733
It will do well

Mine doing great so far in a warehouse and day to day

>>27837726
>he actually believes what he's saying.

>>27837765
>implying he's actually wrong

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>>27837765
>easy to believe, when I speak the truth.

lern2quality son...

>>27837557
Does the ziptie mod work well as a wave-like deploying thing? Or do you just use it as a thumbstud

>>27836388

You will need to give us some idea of how coarse or polished a finish you are looking to achieve, and what your budget is.

>>27837378

You are so wrong, in so many ways, that I hardly know where to begin:

Cutting newsprint is a useful test of sharpness, and has nothing whatsoever to do with what types of cutting tasks the knives will be used for in use.

My EDC knives are used daily for cardboard, food prep, and clam-shell packaging. As these are all fairly light uses, I am able to use very thin knives that have much higher cutting performance than most production knives.

A majority of my EDC knives are custom fixed blades, not production knives, as I can get customs in geometry I want without having to spend my time thinning out the primary grind and re-profiling the edge-bevel to increase the cutting performance. I only own a couple of Spyderco knives.

Spyderco makes a lot of retarded looking designs and nonsense collaborations, but most of their in-house designed knives have much better blade geometries for cutting than their competitors, and no one is able to argue seriously against their QC and customer service.

>>27837980
you have a point, but there really is little reason to go orgasming about "muh push cuts" like they're the be-all, end-all of knife usefulness.

Plus - it's kind of silly to not use the full capabilities of a knife in the name of some arbitrary test.

Consider the tom brown tracker (or any knife with a curved edge, but i'm gonna use the tracker in my example, because it's thicker than sebenza guy). It's a 1/4'' thick slab of steel. Doing push cuts with it will go as well (or rather, poorly) as you can imagine. However, if you make use of the curve, and slice with it, then it goes through newspapers with zero effort.

On the whole - people get super hung up on blade steel, when super steels are mostly superficial, and tend to overestimate one aspect of a knife, to the exclusion of others.

What a knife really needs, is a point, an edge, and a handle. Never underestimate a good handle - it is easily half the value of a knife.

As for the blade, thickness is overrated. 1/4 is waaaay overkill, 5/32 is built like a frigin tank.
Fortunately, usable knives are moving back towards 1/8, and 3/32 on full-size, main knives.

>>27837514

>They often have pathetically small cutting edges for the length and weight, fragile tips, not compact at all when closed, and I can't believe people actually LIKE having a gaping hole in their blade.

These are all valid criticisms, though I like the distal taper that results in the "fragile tips", but I don't understand how you can jump from the that to say Spyderco is making collectible pocket jewelry when Benchmade ($$$$$$ Gold Class $$$) and Zero Tolerance (muh recurved sharpened pry bars for $$$$) are clearly worse.

>Only company that has been nailing designs consistently this past while is Kershaw. They just need to up the materials and they'll be on top

Are you quite serious? Kershaw is known to deliberately under harden everything they make so it can be heat treated for cheaper with looser tolerances and KAI as a whole is known for having the worst, most hostile, customer service in the industry.

>>27838064

The point was that even a coarse edge should be able to push cut newsprint with the grain when freshly sharpened, and that a knife would be dull enough that I would sharpen it well before it stopped cleanly slicing copy paper.

I like using newsprint cutting as a reference because it is an easy to understand yard-stick for people not familiar with sharpening and how sharp a truly sharp knife is, not because I think push cutting newsprint is the be all and end all.

I also don't see any reason the Tom Brown Tracker you are using as an example wouldn't be able to pass that test at 400-grit. Okay, it wouldn't do a whole sheet due to wedging, but that has nothing to do with it being able to initiate a push cut, and of course trivially slice newsprint.

I totally agree with you on the pointless obsession with super steels. There is at most a 2:1 difference in edge retention between properly heat treated AUS-8 and S110V, meanwhile geometry and grit finish can combine to a 10:1 difference in cutting ability and edge retention.

The trend towards thicker blades has come largely from the transition of pocket knife to pocket jewelry and totem for wanting to look tacticool. Two of the fixed blades I EDC are 1/16" at the spine and ~0.010" thick behind the edge and I've never had any damage that extended past the micro-bevel.

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>>27838115
You missed that my entire post was talking in the context of design.

I called Spyderco pocket jewellery safe queens because a lot of their designs, including high end collectible ones, are pants on head retarded and shit for practicality. Many of BM's gold line are fancy derivations of normal blue class designs, so at least they are rooted in practical use. ZT have decent designs a lot of the time but you're right in that blades can be too thick

>Kershaw is known to deliberately under harden everything they make so it can be heat treated for cheaper with looser tolerances and (...) is known for having the worst (...) customer service in the industry.
I said Kershaw has great designs. And they do. But I agree with you that they need to step up their materials and QC tho

This pic illustrates one example of what I mean. 37% cutting edge compared to 42% is huge. SPyderco's usually have a nice elongated belly near the tip which is good, but then they always do this stupid shit where the edge recesses too much near where it meets the handle. Half to a third of the edge is at a completely non optimal cutting angle

>>27838181

I like using the TBT as an example, because it's a huge retard magnet, and because if something as thick and heavy makes the cut, any knife worth it's name should be able to as well.

Hell - blade coating can have a big impact on cutting performance, not just the geometry.

Speaking of - I really love my BM bone collector (see>>27809901). Couldn't tell you exactly how thin the edge bevel is (don't have an electronic measure), but it's thinner than my delica 4 ffg, which is 3/32'' at the spine.

Usually though, I carry a 1/8'' thick blade. A bit overkill, but I like the versatility of it - from cutting any type of packaging/letters/etc. to carving sticks and whatnot. And LTWK makes some of the best spines in the industry, and their heat treatment is legendary (check out PM101's review of the rogue river, particularly at the 13 minute mark, when he goes full bore batoning a knot from hell).

>>27838303
I hope you realise of the knives pictured the, what I assume is a PM2 is the only one that can be choked up on?

And as for comments like
>SPyderco's usually have a nice elongated belly near the tip which is good, but then they always do this stupid shit where the edge recesses too much near where it meets the handle
Which Spyderco's? they have a huge range with all sorts of fucktarded designs, if you don't want to be able to choke up on a knife, then don't buy one with a choil, it's pretty simple.

As far as blade to handle ratio go it's all horses for courses, for some jobs you want more blade to handle(kitchen knives) for others you want it the other way around(skinners), Spyderco have 2 knives at the $50 mark which are around the 45% blade to handle ratio, this doesn't make them better knives than other Spyderco's, simply suited to different tasks.

You are of course welcome to keep banging that drum, it just makes you look a little butthurt though.

>>27838303

Yeah, virtually all of Spyderco's collaboration knives have become impractical pocket jewelry safe queens, but their in house designs--whatever their faults--were generally designed first and foremost as users.

I agree with you that they usually have crappy cutting edge length/overall length ratios, and I see your point about the reverse curve near the heel of the blade, but I would rather tolerate those faults because the taller, FFG ground blades end up usually being significantly thinner behind the edge than BMs, much less ZTs. The only BM I have is a Mini-Onslaught, which has a fantastic blade geometry for my scope of work.

>>27830118
>being this mad
stay pleb, pleb

>>27838303
Most people both at my friend's dive school and when we was actually commercially diving used some sort of Spyderco. At the very least their H1 steel knives are quite good for what they are.

>>27838392

LTWK makes some neat stuff. The Coyote is broadly similar to the style of fixed blade I usually EDC, though D2 isn't a good steel choice for me personally as i like to run highly polished edges and so prefer very fine grained steels (see >>27824397 for my Joe Calton neck knife in triple quenched 1095 at ~62 HRC).

>>27838477
>PM2 is the only one that can be choked up on
>f you don't want to be able to choke up on a knife, then don't buy one with a choil
Ah, this is another meme spydershills always tout that's actually shit. Guess what, you can choke easily up on any folder! You don't need a useless little choil that is neither handle nor cutting edge; all it does it take up valuable real estate where more edge could be. And chances are 90% of what you're using the knife for doesn't necessitate choking up that much, so 90% of the time that little choil is doing you little good. Just think about it. If they just extended the edge down closer to where it meets the handle, where the useless choil is, then your hands would already be closer to to the bade; you wouldn't need to choke up because you already are effectively choked up. And it would be more ergonomic too, because your finger is on an actual handle, not some false that's part of the blade.

You may argue that this choil allows you to choke up while still having your finger on axis with the cutting edge of the blade, rather than on its side like normal. This would be true, except for that limiting thumb ramp on the back of every spyderco. Yea, you can choke up with your index finger using that choil, but you cannot do the same with your thumb due to the invasive ramp that's always there. It's kept back. Maybe you don't know what I'm talking about because it's hard to describe, but I have a spyderco in my hands right now and this is definitely an ergonomic design flaw.

>Spyderco have 2 knives at the $50 mark which are around the 45% blade to handle ratio
Yea right. Which knives?

>>27838508
Spyderco uses a wide range of steels, I'll give them that. I never criticized their materials

>>27838590
I'm not arguing you or I would or should ever need a choil, read what I said
>If you don't want/need a choil, don't fucking buy one
It's pretty simple. Personally I agree with you on choils and it's the main reason I'll never buy an Esse 3-4-5, Rat 3-5 etc etc but some people like them.

>>Spyderco have 2 knives at the $50 mark which are around the 45% blade to handle ratio
Tenacious and Resiliance

>>27837177

But lamnia is expensive as fuck.

Everything is overpriced, although they do have a lot of models.

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>>27837342

Only Spyreco I like. Not even their design.

>>27817212

Are you a little retarded or what? That's the blade shape from the factory.

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>>27837514

I'm into the fixed blade collecting stuff.

They even put a fucking hole in each fixed blade that serves no purpose. They just drill a hole.

It's a shame because all of Spyderco's fixed blades are production models of knives designed by reputable dudes and done with great materials, but the fucking hole.

The only reason why I dont buy Spyderco is for that fucking retarded hole.

>>27838626
>If you don't want/need a choil, don't fucking buy one
Yea but there is very little reason to ever want or need a choil, and people often bring this up as a key feature of the PM2 and a couple others

>>27838626
>Tenacious and Resiliance
Nice, didn't know about those. As far as spyderco designs go they look pretty good. And generally speaking they are better than majority of Spydercos in terms of overall design

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>>27838691
That's the main thing about Spyderco though, chances are they make something you like and a lot of shit you don't, IMO you can't write them off as a company because of certain features, they will make others knives without it(except probably the hole) The only Spyderco I own is
>pic related
I got it because it's cheap, light, thin, uses VG10 and doesn't make me want to vomit. I am going to, when I can be bothered smooth off the top of the thumb ramp because if I carry it in my left pocket without changing the clip around it likes to try and wear holes in my pocket.

>>27838651
I'm the guy you replied to and yea, I agree with you. I love that Perrin.
But get this: I once bought the premium Spyderco made in Japan version of that knife from a major knife dealer and the fit and finish was so bad I had to send it back, which sucks because I was in love with the design. I wasn't being picky either, it was just terrible. Botched jimping, one scale was way bigger than the other, where the edge begins at the choil was all uneven and fucked up. I even took pics and posted on the forums which Sal apologized for, which I respect. Props to him for that. Anyway I can't recommend Spydercos in earnest after that

>>27838677
Yea that's the kind of thing I'm talking about. It is a shame, because they have a lot of great fixed blades designs. Overall they're better designed than their folders

>>27838725
Out of curiousity would you consider the centofante to be able to handle warehouse work?

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>>27838731
forgot pic

>>27838725
>chances are they make something you like and a lot of shit you don't
This is true, but you know what they could do? Not design shit. But they just can't because they literally identify a lot of those retarded flaws as signature designs features

But you are right. Among all the garbage they put out they do make a handful of great blades. I don't mean to say every single knife they make is shit, cause they do have a few good designs going

>>27838731

Premium version?

My Perrin is vg10 made in japan. You're refering to that?

My knife is also preatty beat up, unevend edge grind, like "hammered" on the back, I shit you not. The corners of the spine where fucking dented, I had to file them. And the handle is nothing spectacular.

The sheath is abrasive I think, because my knife is badly (albeit lightly) scratched on the sides from taking it out.

I dont mind because I bought it second hand for cheap, bud damn, I'd be fucking pissed if it was new.

>>27838767

For the price of that knife I'd rather buy a handmade one made by Fred Perrin himself.

Also, that motherfucking hole

>>27838797
It was the Street Beat

>>27838803
Yea, cost me around $250 and it was worse than China tier QC. Can't fault Mr Perrin's design tho, it was just the maker that was bad

>>27838763
I use it for clamshells, packing tape/strap, cardboard, silicon hose, basically unpacking new turbo/components so yeah I'd think so, just don't try and pry with it, they're light handles and a thin blade. They're also listed as linerless but it's not entirely true, they have an inset steel liner in one of the scales.

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>>27806177
>Recent additions
>waaaah why aren't they woooorn

>>27838677
>>27838731
>>27838651
>>27838767

I've used a Street Beat for a while, and I couldn't get used to how back heavy the thing was and how absurdly thick the knife was behind the edge. It was literally twice as thick behind the edge as an FFG Delica.

>>27838731
Why wouldn't you have the factory replace the knife? Shit happens. If they fight about it or the replacement is fucked up that's a problem.

I had a bench made auto that after a couple days would not reliably deploy the actual shop I bought it at made it right and I replaced it with a 940 and problem solved

I can't fault bm for it like its malicious

That particular knife had problems and it was made right I'm not fixing a new knife that has problems. At any price range

>>27838922

The street bowie is where it's at, anon.

Not full tang and light as a feather.

>>27838494
>cant refute my points at all
That's what I fucking thought.

>>27829797

The extents you go to defend your shit-ass autist knife is hilarious.

Better luck next time

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>>27839096

Becker owner are obnoxious in general.

The perfect example of poorfag that wants to pretend he has a top notch knife even though it's pretty mediocre.

It's pretty sad , really.

They're perhaps the biggest sperglord circlejerkers on Bladeforums, and their shitty 1095 slabs of steel with an "edge" are of course the best there is,

And if you dont agree, their counted neurons fart some unkind words like >>27838494

Sad but true

>>27839847
When I first glanced at the thumbnail, I expected to see your hand splayed open. What the fuck is up with that, uh, knife?

>>27839952
It's a meme knife
Karambit | Slaughter

>>27841191
What's it useful for, cutting thatch?

>>27839096
What's there to refute? You're bitching about a non-issue.

>>27841239
It's good for utility sometimes, and karambits are a weapon primarily so i carry it for self-defence since i cant carry guns where i live and im a beta neckbeard who likes meme karambits

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>>27839096
>>27839403
the tang is fine, and i'm not banking on any keyboard warrior faggots opinion

i've put my beckers through tons of serious shit and never had any problem once. yall are fucking retarded, and just further the idea that anon is a dumb ass shit spewing faggot every time

like it or not the becker line is proof that you don't have to spend out the ass for quality knives, so fuck right off next time and hate on something worth hating on

>>27841442
>shitty manufacturing choices
>hilarious price
>a non issue
Becker is the Apple of knives. You're essentially overpaying considerably for the name.

>>27841947
Ontario offers far better quality knives for the same, if not cheaper, price.

>>27842138
how the fuck you call it overpaying? $50-100 for a knife that will do anything you could ever need it to do?
and please, school me on the shitty manufacturing choices im sure youre privy to

>>27842150
so that somehow means the beckers are bad?

fuck sake.

>>27842150
same materials, different ergos, FAR BETTER QUALITY I SWEAR BUY ONTARIO FUCK BECKER SHILLS

>>27842185
It makes them a poor choice considering the options available.

>>27842138
>overpaying
>most poorfag knives there are
oh wait, i forgot ontario too
get the fuck out

>>27842185
Hollow tang. 1095 steel. Plastic scales. Lack of jimping. I can go on if you'd like.

>>27842206
between becker and ontario you're just paying for the looks and the design you like more
that doesn't make anything a poor choice fanboi

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Got one of these from Walmart. Not expecting the best knife in the universe at $10, but at least it looks nifty.

>>27842228
1095 is a bad thing now? sorry? the scales hold up just fine, also what the fuck? lack of jimping? are you kidding me? where the hell are you getting that?

and you ask why i didnt bother refuting your 'points'

>>27842230
Ontario offers steel choices above and beyond Becker, and they don't hollow the tangs on their flagships. They also heat treat the whole fucking thing, which I suppose falls to personal preference as you say.

>>27842255
So mad.

>>27842228
i've hammered, dug, batoned, pried, every thing you could possibly do to a knife with my beckers
the hollow tang must be a horrible choice because all of them are clearly busted in half. fuck, the picture of the broken one someone posted isnt even at the tang

>>27842258
the ontario rat/rak lines are the only ones i like at all
and between 1075 and 1095 if im not mistaken?
at the price range at least, there isn't enough of a difference and your hollow tang is a non point and not even worth arguing about

>>27842292
>>27842276
I suppose the hollow tang gripe may just be a gut reaction on my part; if I'm buying a knife that large already, I'd prefer it be as solid as possible.
Various models are also offered in 5160, also a few others I don't recall off hand.

>>27842318
they're all damn near the exact same thing
i have knives in 1095 and 5160 and i can't tell the difference at all
in fact the only non poorfag knife i have is elmax and it's the only thing ive ever used that is obviously far better

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Been carrying this mean motherfucker for about six months. Works surprisingly well for utility.

>>27842355
Again, I'll cede that it's probably down to personal taste; I've just found that my 5160 blades tend to require far less care in terms of blade maintenance, oiling, etc. I've had to take a bit of rust off my 1095 knives, but not the 5060's.

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>>27805885
I like the small sebenza the best for edc (probably going to get a real one I've been carrying the fake that often), and the strider lives in my backpack.

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My Gerber Paraframe snapped in half yesterday so I went out and got a Kershaw Leek blackwash. So far it's a very impressive knife.

>>27842391
never had to oil or anything to keep any of mine from rusting so i cant weigh in

>>27842399
can i have the fake one for free
i can't shell out the $20

>>27842529
The area I live in gets fairly humid during the summer months.

>>27842138
>But what about these things I didn't mention before?!

You're a 'tard. I can't help but think that you got run out of BF and came here.

>>27842552
i was in washington state in the wenatchee national forest for 8 months living in a tent, used my bk11 and 17 daily.. but i did always dry them if they got wet/dirty
not trying to say they don't rust because obviously they do just haven't seen enough of it one way or the other to have a good opinion
goes without saying if you take care of your knives theyll be fine no matter what theyre made of

>>27842580
The asspain is strong with this one.

>>27842582
That goes without saying; I've just personally found the standard of care for 5160 knives to be lower, which suites my needs better.

>>27842590
you're still acting like you didn't get btfo?
fuck outta here

>>27842590
>Get rekt
>Resort to umad

Way2be.

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>>27842617

>>27842537
Nah

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what scope do u guys recommend for my tactical assault knife

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>>27842661
cmon man please
all i have is this

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>>27842638

>>27842738
Stop spending money on drugs for a week, faget

>>27842764
but anon i get the drugs for free
its the food, rent, and bills that get me

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>>27842590
You admitted you were wrong about the tang, the complaint in question, later in the string. How are you going to say that someone's asspained when you've admitted that they're right?

>>27842783
>i get the drugs for free

So sell some drugs, it's pure profit

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>>27842821
Not the same Anon, Anon.
I'm stopping by to with you a happy ass-devistation.

>>27842850
i dont have enough to sell, just have one weed plant for me. i get enough bud each harvest to keep me happy, and don't really have the time to grow more. also good luck selling weed on the street in a city with 50+ public dispensaries that sell for as cheap as possible
but i digress, lemme get that feauxbenza

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>>27842853
So you're a different person being wrong in place of someone who admitted they were wrong?

What is your deal?

>>27842961
its ok anon that's the good one

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>>27842399

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>>27842961
You assumed, I laughed.
Continue.

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>>27842978
>>27842990
I don't even know what's going on anymore.

>>27841852
I doubt it's a good utility knife it doesn't even have one scratch on it

>>27842258
Why does the whole blank need to be heat treated? the only part of the knife that works in a cutting environment is the edge.

>>27843454
If your pommel has a crusher (that you intend to be using regularly), treating the whole thing becomes more desirable.

>>27842399
Turn the strider to the other side please.

>>27813308
This is how autism affects all of us.

Got my first Axis lock coming in tomorrow, Grip 551. All the other Benchmades around were way too expensive.

>mfw a 940 is ~ 400 dollerydoos in my savage monies.

>>27807163

I do field service for work so I fly several times a week. I had one of these that TSA confiscated from my checked tool case. I swear the piece of shit just wanted a new knife. That thing had been through TSA searches hundreds of times and never an issue.

>>27824326
What the fuck are you even upto mate jesus...

>>27837342
>dat cherry picking

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Just bought this Spyderco Hungarian Chinese Copy.
Really like the design.
if I like how the form factor performs, I may consider purchasing a real one, but 180 bucks?
I'd rather just get my favorite benchmade.

>>27827764
>Ka-Bar Rat Tangs

Naaaaaaaahhh

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>>27844205

Could you be more specific?

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The knife I found while walking out to my jeep. pretty nifty thing, tried carrying it lately. The fact that it was free makes it great to me.

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Best knife I have ever had, rest dont compare!

>>27842582
What the fuck were you doing in a forest for 8 months and can I join you?

>n-no homo

>>27844287
>Rat Tang

>doesn't know the proper term
>doesn't know that most bladed weapons aren't slab tang

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Just came in the mail today.
How'd I do?

I want a Fairbairn fighting knife, who makes the best reproduction?

>>27844347
eew

>>27844460
im a hobo
join whenever

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>>27843806
here's all of them turned over. They're all chinese fakes, even the legit kershaw emerson collab was made in china.

>>27845131
so both the sebenzas are fakes and you wont part with either
cmon

>>27845525
dude just go on aliexpress and order one. You could get every knife pictured for well under $200.

>>27842255
>1095 is a bad thing now?
Yes it is. Shit poorfag rusty steel. But muh toughness

>>27845598
i know but i dont have extra money or a credit card

>>27845632
see
>>27842582
and the pics of them where you can see i stripped the coating

bad deez nuts

>>27845641
>taking care of tools
Guess what they're fucking tools, you use them, you abuse them and then throw them into the pile until next time. They're not a fucking baby like you knifefags thinls they're. Also even when they don't rust they get that ugly as fuck patina.
Stainless masterrace.

>>27845636
that blows. Buying a new gun next week, I'm not going to waste money on postage to ship a knife I paid for to some retard from the internet for free. Why would anyone do that?

>>27845723
sure thing buddy

>>27845740
fuck if i know cant win if you dont play

>>27845131
Just wanted to make sure. I bought the same fake strider.do you have a problem with the clip hanging up on your pants?

>>27845909
not sure what you mean. It's super tight if that's what you're saying.