quality fade

>>27798849
I thought remington became part of a new corporate group a couple years back? That's when they went to shit.

My father's rem 700 is by far one of the most wonderful rifles I've ever used.

>>27798849
I bought a Remington 870 3 years ago. The stock isn't flush with the receiver and the forestock was loose. I functions fine but it just feels cheap.

I got a remi 1911 a few years ago and it works like a charm. It's probably luck of the draw

>>27798849
Zastava QC has dropped insane amounts since Yugoslavia broke up. Have some m70s back home and compared to what is available in the USA its a joke, the zastava stuff here is like a toy

>>27798881

Yeah, that USED to be true, but there's a reason for it. Cerberus Capital Management, the 'distressed investing' cunts, bought them out in early 2006. They also bought Bushmaster in 2006, Cobb Manufacturers in 2007, DPMS (Panther Arms) late 2007, Marlin in 2008, and ended their buying spree with Advanced Armament Corporation, one of the few suppressor authorized companies in 2009. Every company they buy, they kick all their current QC'ers out and tell them to get fucked.

Cerberus was either started or currently owned by Dan Quayle, but it's filled to the brim with libscum and detached QC'ers from Colt 2006 when SHTF for them. You can see precisely why this is such an issue.

And yeah, I bought a Rem700 in .308 somewhere around 2010, had to fucking junk it less than a month later, can't even remember how many problems it had.

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>>27798849

they never were the best. they were cheaper than most other rifles while still retaining an acceptable standard of quality. the latter stopped being true.

>>27798849
It's always been an economy design that was built using fewer/simpler machining procedures. It gave up certain things in the process but it was overall robust, accurate and well finished.

The gun has had to become even cheaper in the face of new designs that take better advantage if modern manufacturing techniques and practices. This has been disastrous for it's reputation.

At this point if you want a custom tack driver for playing at the range, you should build on a stripped Remington action instead of buying a complete gun. Economy of scale makes it a great base for a custom target gun. If you want a mid tier hunting gun, look at a winchester 70, tikka or howa.

Its not as simple as Remington's quality going down.

They've just made cheaper versions of their same guns which cut corners.

If you buy their higher end guns, they're just as good as the same guns they made years ago.

>>27798849
Your post reads funny for some reason.

I don't doubt Remington has definitely taken a colossal shit in recent times, but do you have any pics of the gun?

>>27803900
If you were to build something maybe a notch higher than a 700 in performance for a not-fucking-massive price increase, what would it be? Savage? Tikka? Weatherby?

>>27803945
Very much this, if you buy a $350 ADL Sporter you run the risks of bad finish, a barrel cut on worn out tooling, and chatter marks from running the mill too fast.

If you dish $1000 for a 5R Milspec, they are held to much tighter quality and material standards.

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>>27804567
>>27803945

Explain how they fucked a gun so bad they pulled them off the shelves, recalled everything, and never re-released it.

I bought a Remington 700 SPS left hand in 7mm Rem Mag and I love it. Shoots about 1 MOA with PPU ammo when I do my part. No misfires, no ejector problems, no nothin. It's a fine rifle. Sure it has some loose plastic along the seams of the stock, but that's nothing that can't be fixed with a razor and some sandpaper.

>>27804545
Tikka is both better and cheaper than Remington. Savage is OK, but the action is not first-rate. I can't tell you about Weatherby. I haven't seen enough to develop an opinion about them.