What are your thoughts on the new Russian T14 tank?

>M1A1 with autoloader
not impressed

Looks nothing like you pic OP

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I like it. I like it a lot. Finaly, some good gun depression

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>>25626663

The Object 148 T-14 Armata will be the first russian tank to have finally an automatic transmission and a sterring wheel.

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>>25626663
OP, you're a total faggot for posting this. That's not even real, and the real thing has already been photographed.

Also, can you believe that pic related has STANAG-4 armament and resistance to 14.5mm rounds? Absolutely incredible, they apparently are building the armour under a license.

Hahaha, only edge lord fedoras would think that tank is anything but sheet metal TRASH. Can't wait to see the libturds cry when a single A-10 wipes out 10 or 100 of them

>>25627117

why are they hiding the turret

>>25627499
Because it's just a T72 turret with cardboard on top.

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>>25627484

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>>25627453
Whoops, I meant it's got level 4 STANAG protection.

The Russians had a head start with development since if I remember correctly, they purchased several different European wheeled APCs and IFVs (including the 105mm freccia light tank, which they gave back) for testing.
The Boomerang will also have all round protection against 14.5mm rounds, frontal protection from 30mm rounds, and amphibious capability to top it off, meaning it will serve in the naval troops.
Same thing with the Typhoon, and the Kurgan.

Checkout this sexy ass.

>>25627453
>can you believe that pic related has STANAG-4 armament and resistance to 14.5mm rounds
What's so problematic about that?

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>>25627484
>when a single A-10
Hello.

>>25627499
Because everyone was hyped for the cool autocannon and minigun secondary weapons from OP's concept art, and they seem to have cut those from the final design. When the turret is revealed, it will inevitably be disappointing.

Also, it's not officially being unveiled to the public until the May Day parade.

cant even go hull down, fuck it

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>>25627582
Hey there bb.

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>>25627663
Sup, bro.

>>25627602
Believing that 'concept art' is just like taking a deviant art page as the real thing. The Armata was explicitly being noted to be a cheaper alternative to the T-95.

And yeah, the tarp is being removed for the parade, obviously.

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>>25627739

Well hi there.

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>>25627739
Sup Brah

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>>25627798
Howdy Y'all!

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>>25627827

Yo, wssup down there?

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>>25627827
All i have is this picture of a paveway.

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>>25627860
Chillin'

>>25627860
>>25627870
U know, stuff.

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>>25627901

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>>25627860
>>25627870
remove stealth, serbia strong

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>>25627914
>Serbia Stronk

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>>25627987

I didn't know Falcor had siblings.

>>25626663
http://www.echo.msk.ru/programs/arsenal/1537562-echo/
OFFICIAL
- It took 3 years to build this tank (Hallo, MBT-70-XM803-XM1)
- If crew disabled and can't control tank, tank can retreat by himself out of line of fire. It's possible to control tank remotely.
- About 100 tanks will be produced for state tests
- two modification of Kurganets.
- Kurganets and Boomerang are unified. Same diesel engine, electronics, etc
- Contract for 3 years of test production signed
- New battle module in 4 years.
- Battle module can be changed in field for 3 hours
- Typhoon MRAP has protection against 30mm shell.
- No export versions of Armata\Kurganets\Boomerang to 2020th

>>25628262
>It's possible to control tank remotely.
Asking for a backdoor virus.

>>25627602
>Because everyone was hyped for the cool autocannon and minigun secondary weapons from OP's concept art, and they seem to have cut those from the final design.

lol mate, the OP's image is fanfiction stuff. We had no idea what they originally planned for the tank and what they cut from the design.

>>25626663
why would you need a YakB if you already have a 2A42?

>>25628343
Because thats some concept art. Not the real thing.

There are plenty of photos of the real thing here :
>http://fotografersha.livejournal.com/659498.html

>>25628314
Now imagine a bunch of Armatas getting stuxnetted and driven straight into a minefield.

>>25628314
Like drones?

>>25628513
More like:
>Now imagine a bunch of Armatas getting stuxnetted and redirected against Russians themselves

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>>25627827
>>25627886
>>25627913

Howdy

>>25628625
Haven't we already run around this circle?

>>25628671
Typical American overkill

>>25627987
KEK

>>25628671
Yep, that's the point. A-10 will kill Armata, because he was build for killing tanks. He although will kill Leo2A7 and M1A2 if there will be need in that.

>>25628689
What, does repeating the truth hurt your feelings?

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>>25627484
>A-10
>modern tank supported by modern military with decent anti air capability
>wipe out

>>25628262
If the crew is disabled the tank is not going to be in condition to drive itself anywhere.

>>25629005
I was the one that posted >>25628625

I love the growler. A buddy of mine worked on them when they were testing them in China Lake

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Comparison of Bumerang and Stryker, you can see the obvious superiority of American design under Chinese supervision

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>>25626663
It's the ultimate modern MBT.

It will never ever see battle

>>25631594
>No ETC provisions.

Sorry, still not K2.

>>25628614
IMO either way would be hilarious.

>>25628906
>A-10
>Killing a T-14
>Killing anything built after 1970

>>25631594
its gonna be a good parade this year

>>25629039
>Russia
>Modern Military
kek-400

>>25634789
It has LGBs and CBUs

>>25634789
an a-10 will kill most MBT's, just not with the 30mm.

>>25634833
But APS and ERA will go full retard

>>25634838
Era wont stop a maverick

>>25634842
of course it won't, but 30mm will set them off or damage them

>>25634850
No need for the 30mm, save it for the IFVs

>>25631594
>modern MBT

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>yfw you realize the only reason they keep it covered is because they expect combat soon.

>>25635860
Most of the components are arriving in pieces, THe T-14 turret lacks parts like NERA and stuff, they're trying to cover it to hide parts that should be covered so as to hide where they put what. An example of this is the T-15 side skirts, except you cant really hide side skirts.

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>tfw when that water bottle isn't you're dick as you gently scrape it over rough russian steel.

>>25635874
Also some turrets still needs their guns, the Berezhok above Bumerang lacks its gun and Standard APS, the Epoha-lite on Kurganets/T-15 lacked guns on the earlier photos.

>>25626663
>Russia finally puts out a tank with new hull instead of just a T-72 with a fresh coat of paint
Oh I wonder wha-
>It's a T-72 stretched to take an extra roadwheel

>>25629097
By "disabled", they mean when the Russian conscripts bail out

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>>25626704
>M1A1 with autoloader

>>25628614
>>25634712
you guys are fucking stupid there are a lot of drones around but I don't see many haxors crashing them into things and you??

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>>25627047

>>25627499
It's supposed to be a surprise. They don't want to spoil it.

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2ch dot hk/wm/res/1548711.html

Russian thread

If you want to talk with locals, don't use google translate, most of them can speak English

>>25627663
Too bad USAF did send those to the boneyard back in 90s.

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>>25627870
hello how are you?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJ98lBR9tgY

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>>25634958
>gaushit\10

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>>25628625

>>25626663
i'm kinda tired off countless numbers of armata threads.

>>25637684
Slavaboos gonna slav. After the failure of the PAK-FA they need a new unstoppable Russian killing machine to wank about.

>>25626663
Average tank with own pros and cons.
http://andrei-bt.livejournal.com/tag/%D0%90%D1%80%D0%BC%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0

Slavshit is still slavshit gross plz die

>>25627914
>pilot following same route again and again
>flew relatively low
>only was able to get a shot in after bomb bay opened
>guessed after that

Mad skill on the operator's side but anybody with a lick of sense could shoot down a target like that. Would totally buy bread from the guy who shot it down though, seems like a pretty chill guy.

>>25626663
>people actually wonder why the turrets are covered

Same reason the Black Eagle's turret was always covered, it was just a mock up.

>>25636622
It is totally possible, but no one has seriously tried yet. Also, are you implying that Russias cyber security is really that good?

>>25636852

static targets are too fast anon

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I'll just leave this here

>>25638133
On today's news block on a TV they said that covers will be removed on May 9th and not a day earlier. "For all you concerned people that's another reason to watch the parade blah blah"

>>25628262
>echo moskvy
Comrades, is of Jew media. Do not consume this falsehood. Of shillings. Mostly.

>>25627484
>implying russia can even build ten of those

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>>25631594
>modern
the krauts called, they want their autocannon back

>>25639607
Russia is so poor and backwards, they have to put T-34 back in production. Slavaboos are fucking told

>>25639705
They already brought 12 T-14s to Moscow for the parade and boast to have another 100 by autumn 2015 for field tests.

>>25639742
>They already brought 12 T-14s to Moscow for the parade
>implying those are battleready Armatas that could be fielded

they're for parade, they could be BMP-3s with papier-mache armor

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>>25639741
Second that. Just look at them building this crap back from 1940s

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>>25627484
>stronk

>>25627607
>am of blindings

>>25628314
>drones stronk

>>25629005
>shitty posting

>>25634816
>baited breath

>>25635874
>>25635942
Where info of from? 100%?

>>25637741
Truth. Will have weakness genuine, but Pindosy must seek it out now. Premature.

>>25639741
T-34 stronk!

>>25639790
Restoration of proud machine spirit. Great machine, great victory!

>>25639786
The officials say T-14s are battle ready, but I have no idea how to prove this right or wrong. They also promised to show the tanks in action (shooting, driving through mud etc) at Russian Arms Expo 2015 in September, so we probably have to wait and see.

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>>25639813
Just for you

>>25639847
Part of me thinks they're rushing out mockups to meet the parade deadline, but that's just me.

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>>25639911
Who knows. I'm dying to see it without covers - IMHO it's hard to make a mock turret able to pass for real on close inspection.
As for other new vehicles, I know that some airborne brigades right now are being equipped with BMD-4 (picrelated) and BTR-MD for tests and training. Kurganets-25 ICVs are ready and waiting for army testing as well.
Personally, I have serious doubts that they will manage to build 2,300 T-14s by 2020 as Russian MoD is planning, but I'm pretty sure they wil have some hudred of those.

>>25640071
It will probably follow as similar production schedule as T-90. They'll have 5 variants by the time they finish their first run that won't be done until 2030.

Am I the only one that thinks it looks really plain? Like too basic and square? Doesn't really look cutting edge at all for a new tank.

>>25640071
>>25640112
MoD was holding back on buying T-90s for the last couple of years because they were waiting for T-14.

Instead of ordering new T-90s, more money was put to outfitting existing T-90s and T-72s with extra kits, i.e. T-90MS and T-72B3.

>>25640131
Aesthetics don't win wars. Russian armor also doesn't have to look pretty to sell. It's a brand.

>>25640155
And shitty tanks that have never won a tank on tank battle won't win wars either.

>>25640155
>MoD was holding back on buying T-90s for the last couple of years because they were waiting for T-14.
It may have been a stop gap but it doesn't excuse the fact that they only have about 900 in service of all variants since introduced in the 90's.
>i.e. T-90MS and T-72B3.
T-90MS is export only and T-72B3 is a complete overhall, not just a kit.

>>25640187
>only have about 900 in service of all variants since introduced in the 90's
Certainly no excuse, yes. One is lead to believe they intend to catch up.

>T-90MS is export only
Right, but there was a similar modification for the T-90A. T-90AS?

>T-72B3 is a complete overhall, not just a kit
Yep.

>>25640171
T-14 is designed to do combat with tanks. Time will tell if its effective, but you're free to make authoritative claims ahead of schedule.

>>25639847
>The officials say T-14s are battle ready
Kinda like the chinese floating their fancy carrier out to show off then taking it back to dry dock to be finished?

Why is there so much shitposting in T-14 threads?

only /thg/ threads are good.

>>25640271
Because Ukraine Internet Defence Force comes from russian /pol/ to shitpost here.

The T-14 is probably outdated before it was finished, and even if it is a halfway decent tank, Russia will build a few hundred before they run out of money to build more.

At that point they will whore it out on the international market in order to keep the line open, and it will have to face competition from tanks outside Russia. That's when we will know if it's any good.

>>25640421
>T-14 is shit, everybody else stronk

>>25626663
blyat

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>>25640240
>Right, but there was a similar modification for the T-90A. T-90AS?
Nope. For now, there is only T-90MS (S means export modification in Russian nomenclature) for export purposes. MoD refused to fund T-90MA production as they are really waiting for T-14s.
>Certainly no excuse, yes. One is lead to believe they intend to catch up.
Well, maybe they actually have an excuse, as 1990s were really hard for Russian military, no money no R&Ds no fancy new tanks. So when they at last managed to roll out T-90A with welded turret, thermal optics, new communications and engine, it was already rather outdated. Its modernization potential was also running out. As I see, T-90MS is the maximum you can squeeze out of this design and chasis. So why commision tanks you won't be able to upgrade? And now to mention some innate problems of the tanks of Soviet origin.

>>25640458
A have noticed that from the very beginning of /k in every Russia-related thread there would be at least one post stating that if Russians do not have some gizmo right now in mass production they will never have it because a) No money b) Russia will collapse in a week c) Slavshit sucks d) HurrDurr. When the gizmo actually enters mass production they chose the next one to repeat the whole process.

>>25640378
>>25640421

>>25640171
if you are using tanks to fight other tanks then something is horrible wrong with your strategy.

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>>25641315
No, it's perfectly ok.
"Enemy tank regiment approaching? FIX BAYONETS!"

>>25640720
When is the last time Russia has developed something new and actually put it in mass production?

There's a reason people are skeptical.

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>>25641378
(EMPEROR INTENSIFIES)

>>25626663
>Russian tanks, ever

Yeah, no.

>>25641510
S-400's "long arm"?

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One day they'll finally make one
...one day

>>25640720
Yet almost everything that vatniks like you try to spew about how it will totally enter mass production any day now, never happens or at the most only 30 something are ever produced.

See: Su-35, BMPT, MiG-35, BTR-90, BMD-4, AN-94, AK-12, etc, etc

>>25641799
Yet almost everything that Amerifats like you try to spew about how it will totally enter mass production any day now, never happens or at the most only 30 something are ever produced.

See: FCS, F-35A,B,C, F-22, B-2, anything air deployable, etc.

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>>25636685
And good thing the Navy picked up the slack and then some.

>>25641823
1 out of 4 ain't too bad, vatnik.

>>25640244
They have no experience or design/scientific school in building carriers, they have little school in any sector, be it bombers or tanks, to be honest, so its to no surprise they do not use they top-gear on daily basis.
Russia on the other hand has on of the most old, trusted and doable military scientific school in the world, especially when it comes to ground forces.
So, why exactly we, anons, must be concerned about T14's mass-production issues?
I suppose that Russia is the most probable country to actually field break-through and/or sophisticated vehicles fir ground forces, especially when consider ground forces focus of Russia's military and abandonment of respective part of military by West and gap between Russia and the West and other world like India and China.

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>>25631594
ok

>>25640155
>Instead of ordering new T-90s, more money was put to outfitting existing T-90s and T-72s with extra kits, i.e. T-90MS and T-72B3.

No army has any T-90MS in service.

>>25641799
>BMPT
>hype machine ultimate
>"bought" by Turkic Russia Jr in a deal including military and economic aid
I guess the Kazakhs are ready for any potential Groznys now

>>25641700
a slightly upgraded s-300? Not sure if I count that as new, but maybe?

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Boomerang is just like old soviet Object 1200

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>>25641799
>Not including glorious 12 produced not-good-enough-for-India T-50.

>>25641823
yfw the F-35 has not left LRIP yet and there are more of them than the Su-35, the MiG-35 and the planned number of T-50s combined.

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>>25641799
Pro-tip: no one actually uses word "vatnik" outside of russian boards and Krautchan. Next time, be more subtle, my Ukrainian friend.

>>25641918
coming from the experts in k

>>25641986
>being pro russian, ever

Putin go away

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>>25641986

>>25641510
What do you mean by "new"? If you mean some major breakthroughs for everyone's awe, then I don't know of any. But if "new" is "something comparable with modern European or American models and developed not in Soviet Era", then we have something to see.
If we speak of military production, Russians feel themselves quite competent in radars and SAMs ('Nebo' multifrequency radars, S400s, Pantsir-S are notable the example that I remember witout googling), explosive reactive armor, rocketry (they finally managed to make ICBM Bulava flying, kek. also, they now have some Iskander systems able to launce both SRBMs and cruise missiles), submarines (Borei-class), metallurgy and ceramic composites (reports on Russians fitting their APCs with advanced ceramic plating are googleable). They also introduced a number of brand-new frigates and guard-boats, but I don't know the details. Ah, and some minor shit like MRAPs, armored cars, machineguns, sniper rifles
Oh, and in civil engineering they are ready to sell their new nuclear reactors (VVER-1200) to whoever gonna pay.
As far as I can see their major shortcomings are electronics and plastics, which are lacking. Although, is rumors are true, they have finally managed to start mass production of their own CPU "Elbrus" which comes in dual, quad and octo core variants, the latter being produced in Taiwan, while the former are made in Russia.

>>25642011
Oh, the Internet Defence Force of Great Ukraine has arrived, vatniks and kolorads beware!

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>>25640645
>no R&Ds no fancy new tanks
Two tank projects were in the works before work began on the Armata chassis + turret: Black Eagle (Object 640) and Object 195 a.k.a. T-95. The former was a tech demonstrator, made in 1997 and intended to show "what could have been". Object 195 was being overseen by one guy, but then the command got reshuffled in 2010 and they scrapped the T-95 so that the new tank could be attributed entirely to this new guy.

It's unknown just how much was borrowed from Object 195, but the most likely answer is "a fucking lot".

>MoD refused to fund T-90MA production as they are really waiting for T-14s.
I heard something similar, but here's this chart I found on 2ch a while ago. (Correction: couldn't find the file, googled it and found a downsized version.) All of these models were supposedly produced in SOME quantity.

>>25641883
Wasn't India buying some?

>>25641905
>>25641799
BMPT has been superceded by the TBMP, which will use the Armata chassis.

>>25641918
>slightly
Almost had it.

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>>25642045
>>25642045
>everyone that points out how vatniks are retarded is an evil hohol!

I see we're already at Stage 2.

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2ch dot hk/wm/res/1551284.html

New Russian thread. Lots of new photos and hype incoming

>>25642045
UIDF? More like УИИИИИ-DF, amirite?

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>>25641918
>Slightly
This one is internal equipment of S-300

>>25642069
Prepare for 3 & 4

So on a serious note, how the FUCK does Russia plan on deploying all of these heavier systems given their absolute SHIT infrastructure?

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>>25641918
And this one is S400
"Slightly", huh?

>>25642086
>implying there is only one version of S-300 system
>implying they all look like that

>>25642120
so modernized to 1980s, nice

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>>25642069
Oooh, combat pictures, I'm so scared now

>>25641799
BMD4 is in service. BMPT was an export project; AN-94 and AK-12 was just a contestant for a small arms competition similar to how the we've had a bunch but in the end we still use M4s. BTR-90 was a proposal however the MoD decided BTR 82s (which have been mass produced) were just as good, but to help out the company they bought a few. Shitting on a country that literally imploded financially is like talking shit about a baseball batter who broke his arm.

>>25642094
lel

>>25641799
>Su-35
One of the newest aircrafts of it's class, recently being put in service.
>BMPT
Which is arguebly ever supposed for internal use.
>MiG-35
With many systems don't working, made by MiG, who is busy with MiG-31 and have underfunding issues.
Also keep in mind, that MiG-29/35 and Su-27/35 have much more little differences compared to F-16/F-15, its more like middle fighter/heavy fighter, when american counterpart, most widely used on the globe is more like light multitask fighter/heavy fighter.
MiG-29 is good fighter for his age, but where F-16 perform multiple tasks with air cover from F-15, MiG-29 and Su-27 function very close to each-other, and latter is much more capable for the task.
So, basically one can't tell for sure, whether russian MoD declined MiG-35 from service yet to be finished, or because it is falling of the doctrine or sort of that.
>BTR-90
90's, duh. APCs was the least to worry about, no wonder that expensive replacement's for BTR-80 production stopped and also because more cheap and less cool versions where and is present - BTR-80A/82/82A/82AM, three of four sports the same 2F42 30mm cannon and only lacking in protection, ATGM and AGS.
>BMD-4
Currently being put in service in VDV.
>AN-94
Unusual design with eternal reliability problems (mud and sand in moving parts, fastened worn-off of moving parts and junctions between moving parts of assault rifle and unmoving parts of assault rifle) and pricy for close to AK-74 characteristics.
>AK-12
Undergoing test military service to determine whether it will be the next main assault rifle of russian ground forces or it will be AEK.
Sort of this.

>>25642142
Still at stage 2

>>25642120
So they managed to upgrade from the 1960s to the 1980s?

Are those intel 8088 processes in that beast?

>>25642125
>standart interface
>inside electronic equipment being the most easily interchangeable part of SAM
>for some reason could differ from SAM version to SAM version

>>25642178
I remember last year there was a big bit about how Russia was making their own processors, and their top speed was only 133mhz.

>>25642094
Railroads. Yes, they have lots of them. Oh, and they even don't use steam locomotives anymore, who could have believed?
Also, hundred-something of heavy transport planes for distant regiments.

>>25642154

*aircraft

The Flanker is shit, literally shit, terrible radar range, poor BVR, can't turn at high airspeeds well, can be supermanuveerable with a combat load.

MiG 35 is honestly better than those old SU-27Ps or the massively expensive (and shity) SU-35s.

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>>25642136
Brand-new Patriot M3 picrelated.
so modernized to 1980s, congrats, USA!

>>25642220
Oh look, 21st Century tech.

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>>25642220
Obviously that looks like it came from 2070, you silly vatnik, you.

>>25642237
This man has obviously had a lot of experience with military electronics, let's trust him.

>>25642200
>flanker is shit, literally shit, terrible, poor
Great opinion.

>>25642220
Are you really saying that whatever 1980s computers the S400 is using is on par with this?

>>25642069
This mem is not used outside of runet, my little detector teaser.

>>25642265
The flanker is shit, literally shit.

Get back to me when it's capable of shooting down anything but slav shit.

>>25642266
Are you implying you've used the S400 or the Patriot?? Dang please tell us of your experiences with using modern Russian and US SAMs?

>>25642047
>Two tank projects were in the works before work began on the Armata chassis + turret: Black Eagle (Object 640) and Object 195 a.k.a. T-95.
Well, they poked into two prototypes for 12+ years without much progress. AFAIK, O-640 was just a mockup turret on T-80 chasis all the way. That's what I call "no money no tanks"

>>25642019
Without even looking it up, I'll say with 99 percent certainty that whatever CPU Russia claims to be making, uses opensource ARM architecture, which means it really is designed by the USA.

>>25642200
And why exactly I must put your words to trust, anon with no arguments?
Also, last time MiG-35 was put to test in India's fighter contract (which Rafale won), it had many systems not working properly, namely the radar, if my memory is correct, when Su-35 don't have issues with this.

>>25642289
I know that patriot system has shot things down in combat and that the S-300 isnt' combat tested.

>>25642265
I'm sorry, what is Red Flag?

What is G loading?

What are drop tanks?

What is radar range?

What is BVR?

Why is my IRST shit when it comes to range?

Why can't I dogfight?

Tales of a flanker pilot, by Ivan Jackofski

>>25642312
Russia can't even build the SU-35 right now due to critical components that used to come from Ukraine. Probably the same with the PAK-FA.

>>25642293
It's more accurate to say that over 12 years passed without anything happening. Only in the last 5 years (supposedly, only the last 3) did the MoD sponsor Armata development. If they managed it that swiftly, even if we take into account results from the slow-burning/stalling development of T-95, that gives reason for hope.

>>25642280
Great opinion as always. Will you be here all night? Or will you be busy producing inbred offspring, so that we may be regaled with these fascinating tales for years to come?

>>25642326
You're asking a lot of questions without making any claims. I'm not sure what you're trying to assert, but if you are, make it clear. Or is this the part where we ignore common sense and fling feces like it's high art?

>>25642280
>slav shit
Report teaser arrived.
Srsly, stop falling into shitposting. You know, when you post slavshit mem to your post it in fact don't become more full of reasoning, in fact it will became less.

>>25642266
Yup. Look, they don't need top-notch GTAV-ready rig with octa core CPU and two SLI-connected dual video cards for SAMs. Instead, everybody use rather old but 100% bug-free protected and reliable specialized electronics, which would suck at any domestic task. Just google it. And, BTW, Russians now have their own CPUs for whatever purposes they need.

>>25642333
Holy fatness!

>>25642361
That first one wasn't the same person, kek.

Go, google Red Flag, go look up the SU-30's g loading, engine performance, then compare that with the SU-35.

Oh and "What is engine reliability"

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>>25642303
>Without even looking it up

>>25642333
>probably

>>25642313
>know that [...] and that the S-300 isnt' combat tested
Is that a fact? Can I pull things out of my ass, too? Because I know for a fact you're a lying sack of shit.

>>25642303
Generally, you are right, but they are trying to catch up
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elbrus-2S%2B

>>25642377
You made the claims, the burden of proof is on you. I'm not obligated to do shit, but anybody with a lick of sense would question your deranged ramblings. Which you assume to be fact.

>>25642313
And? Does that prove the difference in tech?

>>25642393
xaxaxaxa where are the proofs tovarish

I gave you the tools my friend, unless the Russians blocked google for you.

>>25642393
I suppose he is different anon.
Well, anyway, just posting several phrases about Flanker doesn't proof it's capability's and I don't think that it serve reasoning.

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>>25642158
Hurry outside, the american aid plane is coming to kiev

>>25642453
Still at stage 2

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>>25642453
>Kiev
>Yurop
Does not compute

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>>25642420
>Here are my bullshit claims presented as facts. If you don't believe me on my unbiased and honest word, go and convince yourself otherwise RIGHT NOW. Because I said so.
Sounds about right.

At this point, I'm pretty sure you're just a reverse troll trying to give anti-ruskies a bad rep. On a board which could use more valid criticism and much less shitposting.

>>25642467
Slavs are europoors

>>25642484
More like I've posted the review by an AF guy after Red Flag too many times now.

If you can't read about the T/W ratio, the Engine performance, G loading of the aircraft you're defending, and claim it's not shit, read.

Till then, I'll keep pissing of the RIDF.

>>25642458

not even russian you fucking goofball. What stage of autism did your doctor say on the paper he gave your mom?

>>25642380
http://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-subclass-cnt.aspx?id=20140806000017&cid=1101

In June 2014, T-Platforms in cooperation with Rostec and Rosnano announced Russian-made processors called "Baikal", 64-bit Cortex-A57 designs that run at 2 GHz.[3]

The S-300 hasn't been used in real combat. We know that the USA/Israel has tested their fighters against models they got from the Czechs and other eastern Euros.

>>25626663
I will believe the T-14 is decent the second a Russian tank manages to demonstrate it isn't a huge piece of shit in the field, which is to say never.

>>25642514
Definitely entrenched in stage 2.

>>25642526

Sorry to hear that. Did you know image boards are not reccomended for people with stage 2 autism though. Hurry I hear mommy coming to check your room for sonic the hedgehogs and ponys!

>>25642541
Its ponies you moran.

>>25642467
Kiev is in Europe. So is the entire remainder of Ukraine. Is something hard to understand?

>>25642541
I love it when members of the glorious RIDF get so mad they stop making grammatical sense.

You can hear the USA's death throes echoes in the butthurt they have at other countries advances.

>>25642568
His post is almost purely English, with one little mistype. So your posts not used retarded memes, but also trying to state ridiculous things.

>>25642603
not only*
fix

>>25642601
Is this english?

>>25642603
Speaking of poor grammar, I thought the FSB gave you guys lessons? Or did they run out of money this year?

>>25642603

You can tell the low iq reddit tards, they get one meme or picture, for instance his polandball meme or a fedora picture, and stick to it for an entire fucking thread thinking it wins their argument

>>25642603
>His post
you meant "My posts", don't you?

>>25642624
It is hilariously nonsensical, anon.

>>25642629

>everything I don't like us one person
> everything I disagree with is one organization

>>25642629
I meant:
>>25642541

>>25642624

Here comes commander fuckwit to tilt at FSB windmills, and win this thread for MURICA

>>25642679
I love how mad you Russkies get.

>>25642696
>anon is talking shit
>anon is being told he is talking shit
>U ALL MAD HURR
Nutshell it is.

>>25642696

>Are... are they laughing at me?
>No, they must be really mad, because I have the power to make them mad.
>they are russian too. They must be!

>>25642120
>>25642220
These look functionally similar and modern.

>>25642705
>>25642706
ridf is really mad.
i hope we don't gave them ptsd

>>25641986
amen

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>>25642725

You're entrenched in the "YOUR ALL MAD" stage.
Next comes the "I WAS TROLLING ALL ALONG" stage, unless mommy puts you to bed first

>>25642313
Ya but they usually don't like to advertise the friendly fire incidents.

>>25642706
>getting so mad you post against something twice.

I've been there RusAnon, it's ok, I know stage 3 is hard.

>>25642725

"Don't gave them"

I thought you got english lessons in Warsaw/Kiev or whatever shitposting hole you live in

>>25642735
And up to "RAEGQUIT" stage, anon.

these UIDF or whatever they are, are making my face hurt from laughing this whole thread

>>25642748
The world according to a Vatnik:
There is the US, there is Russia and everyone else with an internet connection is a Ukrainian.

oh Vatnik, you're so silly.

>>25642748
>so mad you run out of original material and start copying other anons.

Do you need to hug it out? I know Russia has anti gay laws, but you seem like you need it.

>>25642748
You stupid fool Russia so bad.

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>>25642720
That's the point. Russians do try to meet world standards. Speaking of SAMs, picrelated is operator's workplace in "Tunguska" mobile complex, dating back to 1980s.

>>25642772
This mem is not used outside of runet.
The moment you show this, the moment anons stop to feed you.

This thread has devolve into simple name calling

>>25640071
I think it's 2k Armatas by 2020

>>25642772
>>25642786
>>25642787

>so mad you respond to something 3 times

>>25642805
Where on earth are they going to get the money for that?

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>>25642720
>>25642792
And this is the same from "Pantsir-S1" from 2000s

>>25642803
Fag.

/ducks

>>25642810
>waaah
>waaaah
>i'm not mad, you are mad
>cry cry cry

i hope that jar of pickles was worth your tears, vatnik

>>25642770

They have started using made up words. Its starting to sound like arguing with scientologists.

Am I the only one, that have feeling, that vatnkiks and russkies are actually posted by one person, or it only my saemfagfobia?

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>>25642824

>>25642828
I think so too anon.

>>25642828
http://www.rferl.org/content/how-to-guide-russian-trolling-trolls/26919999.html

>>25642828

Not even sure what a vatnik is, but this pole or ukranian is sure I am one! ROFL

>>25642817
Well, trading, heavy industry, gas,oil, military contracts, just like any decent country.

>>25642818
You see the problem is it's not in black, all modern computers have to be in black or how would we know how advanced they are.

>>25639869

What's going on here?

Are they legitimately restoring old tanks at a professional depot? That would be kick ass.

>>25642825
Its not made up actually and best it to be made up, shame it is an actual mem.

>>25642817
Refund from the Mistral.

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>>25642841
oh your picture didn't portrayed it correctly, i fixed it :^)

yes - i know that you like to drink my yellow "tears"

>>25642851
OMG, not this shit about half-imaginary troll-bureau again.

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It looks pretty underwhelming tbh. The turret shape is looking very conventional and much larger than I thought for an unmanned turret.

I actually think the Kurganets-25 and Bumerang are more interesting projects, especially the one with a 57 mm auto cannon.

>>25642916
>It's not authentic if it isn't reported by Russia's state owned media!
>Russia Today didn't report it? It must be lies!
oh vatnik, you're so silly.

>>25642907
>mfw shit edit

>>25642828
Actully this whole thread is just 2 people arguing, I know i'm one of them

>>25626663
>What are your thoughts on the new Russian T14 tank?

It's going to make the Americans tank look like it is leaning against the door how cheap it is.

>>25642872
Yes they are. Actually, this is an overhaul for WW2 vehicle before the Victory day parade. On May 9th they are going to show them good ol' tanks rolling down the streets in a number of cities, not only in Moscow. In Khabarovsk officials even promise to restore and display some variant of WW1 Renault FT-17, lol.

>>25642936
You fucking kidding me, person couldn't be that lame when troll some people. It is just like you are not a human, it is that lame.

>>25642938
>mfw
you don't know what this means, eh?

hahaha

>>25642940
No. I am you!

>>25642962
Hes Russian, of course he doesn't.

It does not look like it has been built properly. I do not think it is beneficial to remove a crewman. I cannot see any export customers. I cannot see what it is supposed to do. I cannot see where the Russians are going to get the money from to ever build significant numbers of them.

The role of a modern tank is to threaten civilians and light irregular troops, and shell civilian areas. The Russian tanks in use do that just fine.

lemon/10, it has practically zero prospects.

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>>25642962
Nope, just pic fell off.

>>25628689
Overkill is a term used by sissy faggots

>>25642985
It will have the same fate like their aircraft carriers, Pak-Fa and other retarded projects.

>>25642818
Why are they looking at themselves?

>>25643002
HAHAHAHAH
yeah, sure


>that damage control
hahahaha
oh wow

>>25643004
>sissy faggot

And? Crossdressing and gaysex is pretty fun, too bad it's banned in Russia.

>>25642985
>I cannot see where the Russians are going to get the money from to ever build significant numbers of them.
Trading, just like human kind do last several millennia?
Also:
>It does not look like
>I do not think
>I cannot see
>I cannot see
>I cannot see
Well, you suck.
>The role of a modern tank is to threaten civilians
Is it some Pol Pot-mobile fo genocide?

>>25643007
look at the tracks in the sand, it isn't even an actual picture, just some photoshopped shit

>>25642985
The export version hasn't even been made, so why would there be customers,
the Russian don't even have it in service yet, your kind of jumping the gun here.

>>25643007
>>25642818
>Hey Ivan why are we of looking at ourselves?
>Because Vladimir, if we do not look at ourselves we can cannot be of understanding with ourselves
>Are you drinking again?
>No, I've started to read of Buddhism
>Why is a pacifist in Armed Forces?
>Self actualization Vladimir
>O-Okay
>So have you seen that new Putin interview?
>No I have not
>It's the shit
>So you could say it's a pootin?

>>25643040
Simple western tanks bring freedom and democracy and evil Russian tanks bring horror and genocide.

>>25643007
Don't know lol. Guess it's some demo or startup screen, sort of "all systems normal see for yourself how cool you are"

>>25643078
Does panzers still count as western, they don't look like they are up to the task of bringing freedom and democracy, last time they went on big war they was part of some genocide?

>>25643043
The problem is the lack of demand for new tanks globally. I cannot see any customers for this anywhere. The tanks you can get on the secondary markets are very good value for money.

>>25643040
The Russian state budget is under significant stress. The amount of money required to replace their current tanks with this would be very high, and it has not been shown to work.

It offers very poor taxpayer value. The role of the modern tank is to bully civilians and smack around lightly armed enemies. The old T-72s do that just fine.

>>25643180
they don't even have the technology nor the resources nor the industrial capacities to produce these tanks in notable numbers.
they will build a few prototypes and that's it.
also, the armata is too complex for russia's customers.

>>25643180
If I recall it correctly, most of expenses or at lest part of expenses of this rearming was secured for it.

>>25643180
the largest potential clients, turkey and India, already have projects to build their own or deals with other nations too.

>>25643245
pre-ruble crash,

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>>25643180
>The role of the modern tank is to bully civilians and smack around lightly armed enemies. The old T-72s do that just fine.
Well, in current conflict in Ukraine both sides use tanks to bully civilians and are even dumbfuck enough to use tanks against tanks. And you know, those old T-64s and T-72s just go BOOM, especially T-64 which not only throw their turrets upon shell detontation, but are literally torn in pieces. Maybe, it would be good to have some tanks that don't go into shreds from slightest punch? Just in case.
Picrelated T-14 in Moscow tonight.

>>25643275
I doubt you have knowledge enough to make some conclusion about ruble and its role in rearming program, since, if my detector is correct, all you do is basically shitposting.

>>25643256
> largest potential clients
> turkey

top kék

>>25643180
>The role of the modern tank is to bully civilians and smack around lightly armed enemies.

>>25643334
Turkey have a massive, ageing tank stock. They are the largest potential export customer for tanks. I disregard India because of their constant fucking around during procurement.

>>25643378
>what is Altay

what ever the turks buy or build, they have better options than some russian prototype garbage

>>25643378
>Turkey have a massive, ageing tank stock.
Yes
>They are the largest potential export customer for tanks.
No. They have an indigenous K2 knockoff that should be coming on-line soon.

>>25627453
>STANAG-4 armament and resistance to 14.5mm rounds?

russian created new ceramic sandwich armor which can be produced in industrial scales like simple steel plates. armor is lighter and has long wearing off - efect. the shit was tested last year.

since the armor was in the testing phase all their new armor vehicles are designed to change the armor plates in field. you dont know shit about what armor that vehicle is wearing right now.

>>25642907

>yfw you will probably watch your family destroyed by that tank in ops picture, ukry shit

>>25643451
I thought you went home from the Russian Trolling office. When you're off the clock you can stop rusanon.

>>25643451
cry harder vatnik
also, see here >>25642772

>>25643471
>>25643476

dumb as a wood piece

>>25643451
>yfw

you don't know what this means, eh?
hahahaha
you retarded russians

>>25643495
well ... by that standard ... i'm still smarter than the most intelligent russian

>>25643500

Americans have an obsessive fear of russian things. Maybe the boogy monster in his closet is russian also, and the scary brown people on his street are protected by russian missiles.

>>25643534
>this is what a vatnik believes


HAHAHHAAHHAHAHAA

>>25642220
MANSTATION OF THE FUTURE THEY SAID
EASIER TO USE THEY SAID
ofc they also have new ass seats in that PR van that Raytheon shit out.
also that van looks wierd, like shits all fucked up
14E and mad as hell

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>>25639736
>did not know that there was an auto loader version of T34 back in WWII and was even deployed in small numbers
ya, I get my knowledge from actual books from the libraries instead of just what ever the fuck that was post in 4chan

>>25636868
F-18's out turn Flankers at anything slower than 200kts, just sayin.

>>25643299
>especially T-64 which not only throw their turrets upon shell detontation, but are literally torn in pieces.
Ukranian quality, lol.

>>25643583
>le ebin secret soviet documents maymay
>thanks to "world of tanks" for educating me

>>25643606
Russian shitpost quality, lol

>>25643606
>thinking Ukraine has bad quality.

Have you ever heard of Antonov?

>>25643645
Antonov was Russian and turned into shit since the collapse of the Soviet Union because Ukrainians can't run a company for shit. Nearly three decades with no innovations whatsoever, just surviving because Russia buys it because it respects Antonov's work.

>>25643693
Sounds like Ilyushin.

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>>25643606
You are now aware the real reason Russia is only buying 12 PAK-FA is due to the falling out with Ukraine, and the lack of a new source of required parts.

>>25643230
>so much american asspain and delusion

It's going to be hilarious what you guys come up with when Russia's got a 1,000+ of these and producing hundreds yearly.
>b-but russia has no money! :(
>b-but vatniks!
>b-b-but muh murrican conomy, muh sanctions!
>b-b-but commies can't industry
>bb-bb-but corruption!

And finally, the sour grapes:
>b-b-but it sucks!
>muh abrams!

>>25643757
This is more true than you think it is.
http://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-subclass-cnt.aspx?id=20140806000017&cid=1101

SU-35 and PAK-FA share a tone of engine parts, many of those came from Ukraine.

>>25643785
Remember when you said the same thing about the PAK-FA and the F-35?

>>25643757
Good to hear. You just told that Russian economy isn't shit.