Elona

Sorry bros I was sleep

>>17512704
No xcuse4u

Another glorious OP, much appreciated.

is there a more efficient way to level combat skills than wrecking dungeons and spamming gauge?

Is there a solution to the bug where guests will not leave the house and take up servant slots (E+C)? Other than resetting the house preferably, but I'm about to try that too

>>17513528
From what I heard in these threads find a decently tough enemy with a healing ability and wall yourself in with it. Then just keep fighting with it as it heals itself.

>>17513559
Time.
They do leave but it takes forever and a half.

>>17513567
I waited a full month, all I got was more guests

>>17513566
lvl 32, haven't really encountered anything that heals itself well enough besides zeome.. at the moment I'm just spamming summon monsters and killing them to level

>>17513588
Why NOT just farm dungeons? Pick up the Statue of Opatos to reset them every 10 days if you need to. You should level all your combat skills and get some decent loot as well

>>17513568
I mean I did fire my maid.

>>17513608
>>17513559
Resetting got rid of the existing extra stayers (and not the normal ones, oddly enough), but hasn't solved the problem with new ones. They are supposed to leave after you exit the building, but they were still there on multiple exits/reenters and then spending a month (from 7/15 to 8/25) walking around the snow.

I know I can just not allow anyone to come in, but that's a pretty big feature to lose. If I wait until I have the "correct" 8 servants I'll still be cluttering up my home with extras that seem to never leave.

The bug started happening after I remanded the god I had staying there and killed the "shopkeeper" who did nothing (no options except talk and bye). Before then everything seemed to work normally, although I had too many servants to hire better ones.

I just don't get it, what is this game? Lurking and watching videos just confused me even more. It's like someone got a super computer, got high as fuck and added a fantasy setting, every shitpost known to man and everything the human-sized bunny next to him ordered him to into it, put it on 200% randomness and out came this. I just don't get it.

>>17513670
That description is mostly adequate.

That and some basic skinner box rpg elements and you have a pretty addictive game.

>>17513689
Of course by basic it's more like every single one possible. Everything is a skill to grind and you do it not just for your player character, but for pets too.

Kind of reminds me of Runescape, but there's more to do and the pacing is much faster. Plus the aforementioned shitpost humor.

What race/class do I pick if I want to be a min maxing faggot?

>>17513814
snail

>>17513814
Personally, I'm quite fond of the Fairy Battlemage. I don't really know how well magic holds up in late game, but I guarantee you it's the best race/class for a magic-user anyway.

Fairy starts with huge Mana and Speed (the most speed of anything), with speed being king in Elona. They have a HUGE DV bonus that makes them pretty much unhittable early game, and continues to scale later (has both a flat and percentage increase). High base resists as well. Low health is easy to overcome, especially with such great defenses, but you can always just eat more hero cheese. The 1s equipment limit is nasty, but barely affects a Caster (who wants light armor anyway) and you can use Flying Scrolls to reduce an item's weight later if you need to equip something heavy.

>>17513814
Fairy is probably the min-maxing faggot race, because even though they have a massive penalty in being unable to ever use anything weighing more then 1s, they have MASSIVE innate resistances to most things.

>>17513920
And Flying Scrolls can permanently reduce any item weight to the <1s range if you have enough of them. Expensive and time consuming, but if you want to use any specific artifacts you can.

>>17513528
>>17513566
One of the ways is to do it like this is to find an enemy like hermit crab ect, destroy your speed as much as you can, and then just beat the shit out of it.
Your slow speed will allow it multiple turns to roll for a heal and you should have made yourself nigh invunerable enough to be able to heal back any damage taken.

>>17513920
Fairies can't use Magic Equip, however.

>>17513948
Particularly as Elona+ gets rid of the penalties for making items light.

>>17514074
That's true, but its hard to beat having high innate resists to most of the things in the game before you even have to consider your equipment.

>>17514074
Magic Equip is only a 20% buff. Medium armor gives you a flat -8% to your cast chance, meaning you will always have (at least) a 9% fail rate. I don't think it's worth the tradeoff, even before considering "giving up" the fairy race.

>>17514102
warmage counters part of that though, but it's till not that good IMO. Plus you have to spend a turn and stamina casting the buff, which only pays off after 5+ spellcasts.

>>17514065
sounds good. With fetters of earth I have around 10 speed

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the ride never ends

>>17514143
Someone should play a lich character with a party of skeleton pets.

>>17514074
Do you need to be wearing medium armor, or be at its weight limit to be use magic equip?

>>17514404
Be in the medium armor range, which checks your [equipped] armor weight.

>>17514412
Unrelated to the fairy thing, but do weight classes take into account weapon weight?

>>17514404
There isn't light, medium or heavy armor. it just depends on your total weight equipped. Since medium is over 15 stones, you can't reach that as a fairy unless you had over 15 body parts.

>>17514434
Yes. And ammo.
It's the sum total of everything you have equipped.
Just look in the upper right corner of the equipment window.

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Nobody will bat an eye if you slay all the gods or all powerfull beings?

or marry them

>>17514474
For the gods it's just an avatar, they're still hanging around.

>>17513814
starting class doesn't matter for lategame minmaxing purposes
it only affects starting stats+skills plus which class feat you get, but anyone can learn any skill in the game and you can change your class feat later on with a business card (to thief or warmage, probably)

how do I check my pets body parts? idk wtf to put on my fire dragon kid, is it just a martial arts pet with megid flame later on?

>>17514644
Go to their inventory, at the bottom of the Take menu you'll see a list of all body parts they have, blue for ones that have something equipped, black for empty.

>>17513559
>>17513637
Have you tried going back and forth between continents

>>17514706
I'm not that far into the main quest. I don't think I've even bothered to start the main quest.

if i put a pet into defensive mode will it still use healing spells?

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>>17514342
Hello yes how can we help you?

>>17514823
How is that working out for you?

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>>17514826
Wonderfully.
Level 40 right now, could pretty trivially clear act 2 at the drop of a hat if I saw fit. The only real threat at this point is player error, since I have to manually direct my spooks to kill the shit out of things.

>>17514841
>manually direct my spooks
How? I don't know of any pet orders

>>17514846
I'm using Necromancy, not pets. Works a bit differently, since they're more like friendly NPCs than pets.

>>17514849
interesting, I still don't know how you do it, but it sounds neat.

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blackjack can suck my dick

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>>17514884
what's this now

what does "It makes you pious" mean? I ctrl + f'd the equipment attributes wiki page and it's not listed.

>>17514974
sounds like a bonus to faith skill anon

>>17514974
faith bonus

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Hi jpsies, new starter here. I've been trying to get into things but I feel like even early on there's a lot of things that I am missing out on, and my potentials run down below 60% in the skills I'm working on. I'm pretty sure there's something dumb going on from my part.
I'm a mutant farmer and have gotten a ranch and at least some stuff set up, no feet yet so I wished for a bed. I've also been equipping gear with luck, but maybe this is completely useless from what the pastebins are saying, and I've also died a bit when dungeoning which probably fucked me over even harder.
I think I'm starting to understand what I'm fucking up at least, so I'll make a few new characters and see how things work out in the early hours. Should I save the level up points and spam platinum on one thing exclusively instead?

>>17515041
Oh and also for cooking, should I learn it myself or let my loli take care of it entirely? I haven't really understood how to use the gene engineering properly so I just do everything myself. And when leveling cooking in town it's fine to just spam rest and let time pass, right?

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Strange that the HP cap is 20 mill 15 HP instead of just 20 mill. Wonder why that is but that's the hard cap. Lv 6,666 seems to be the cap for monsters in the void. The wiki suggests the cap for the player is lv 10,000. Guess I'm getting closer to it.

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>>17515071
what the fuck

>>17515071
Why aren't you playing some sort of fairy warmage or are you but you changed the class at character creations? What do you think is the best race class combo

>>17515121
he answered that somewhere before I think, race and class don't matter too much later on especially at his level

>>17515121
fairy is bad for minmaxing unless you are into martial arts..and then its still not very good since your buffs couldnt be maxed. The one and only true race for minmaxing is mutant, and it sucks for roleplaying actually the opposite .
There arw several good choices for endgame, btw. Mostly depends on playstyle, and warmage is simply a 'safe' choice.

>>17515071
After 300 levels of the void i suddenly realised that enemies grow astonishingly slow with each level. I hope awakened dungeons are more difficult.

Last time i ask /elona
should i min-max my gene for loss mutant or give minimum necessities just to have a slght chance to get past act 1 without extra limbs?

>>17515232
I'll say it again, you can use Flying Scrolls to equip ANY item as a fairy. Unless for some reason you want medium+ equip weight there's no long term disadvantage.

Mutant is an interesting point though. You can get like 4 arms or something to max out melee damage that way, though it does come at a speed penalty.

>>17515240
Which one do you want to do

>>17515232
choices for endgame classes* i mean.

>>17515243
magic equip, and you can say farewell to 3x crit damage multiplier or sky-high two-hand bonus.

>>17515244
DESU i wnt to abuse gene to the max for once, but i'm afraid it'll turn the game into something extremely boring and i'll just level gardening on my endless plantations instead of finishing act 2/3 without taking hp damage

>>17515243
mutant is very, very complicated if you truly desire a min-maxed char. Speed penalty is fully avoided by riding a mount and/or using gamma core

>>17514865
You basically take the body parts that drop from mobs and resurrect them as zombies using necromancer coffins. Pretty sure the zombie level and type scales off anatomy, magic device, and how strong the monster you got the body part off of was. I could be remembering wrong though.

But every enemy your spooks kill increase your anatomy skill to make stronger spooks.

>>17515269
Oh? So i can become part-time necroshit to learn a bit about dissection and then swim in quickling stakes?

>>17515121
Fairy Warmage doesn't fit my playstyle. It's not a bad combo but it wasn't a good fit for me. Kai is a Eulderna Predator. Changed the class name at the beginning of the game just because I felt like it. No real reason but at any rate, I started out as a Predator and still am a Predator.

I personally went with a Eulderna Predator because I wanted to play a martial artist mage hybrid. Eulderna covered most of my casting skill needs while providing a good beginning attribute spread for hybrid play. Predator helps my martial arts out in providing me the eye of mind skill without having to join the fighter's guild along with other necessary melee skills. The innate increased crit chance and starting speed buff is nice too.

So I designed my class/race combo based on what I wanted to do in the game and what I felt comfortable with. This combo worked for me but I understand if it doesn't work for others. It's really up to the player to find what works for them and provides the most comfortable experience for them to achieve what they want out of the game.

>>17515240
>>17515256
Additionally, regardless of the gene this char will most definitely be my last and i'll drop this game after death.
probably

>>17515256
>magic equip
Trash skill. 1.2x spell damage at the cost of wasting a turn and taking a -8% (additive) penalty to cast chance. It CAN work out in the long run, but 99% of the time it's not even going to be worth the effort to cast.

>>17515294
use it for buffs, meteors and god figths. Getting 3x spellpower cap instead 2.5x makes it such a trash skill yeah.

>>17515294
1.2x spellpower doesn't just mean more damage, it also means better stats and speed from buff spells.
Warmage class feat gives +5% cast chance so you can still be at 97%.

It's supposed to be impossible to get two of the same unique artifact, right? I have two Arbalest

>>17515346
It's just because you don't have it on you. If you left one at home, the moment you try to pick it up or drop the one you just got and try to pick that up it will turn into stardust.

>>17515346
Depending on which game/version you are playing, either the second one will turn into Stardust as soon as you pick it up while the first is in your (or a pets) inventory, or it will turn into a random different item of the same type.

>>17515352
Ah I see, I picked it up again and it turned to dust

>>17515273
Yeah totally, you can do anything you want whenever you want. You can get to level 4000 as a mage and decide you want to be a gunner.

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Yesterday I had a dream where someone was talking in-character like a scientist about his research into ether disease. He said that very high level characters could get up to 27000 Perception from the ears of the beast. Kai appeared and said that was awesome, and started practicing in a basketball court with his waifus after giving cat ears to everyone. I told him it took him too long to do that. Then someone else said that they were making a Kaguya CNPC, and that she would be Weak to fire. But someone else replied that giving her a fire weakness was nonsensical, since she has a treasure that nullifies fire damage.

Now I want to make a Kaguya CNPC.

>>17515404
What did Kai look like

I-is he cute

>>17515413
Same as what he looks like every time he posts a screenshot.

>>17515071

>>17515417
You dream in anime?

>>17515433
You don't?

>>17515433
I thought we all did

>>17515433
Not him but I have before. Definitely not regularly though. I've also have dreamt in video game if that makes sense.

>>17515404
b-but why basketball

>>17515467
I usually dream in video game. Usually I'm simultainiously the character and playing the character, but then I occasionally become so immersed I forget how to operate the controls

>>17515472
Must be what godslayers do in their spare time.

I am going to fucking die of hunger while my pet chases after this faggot shade in the duel arena

>>17515483
You cant die in arena. You will die right after your pet dies(or wins), tho.

>>17515483
>>17515488
Drink milk or juice after the match.

what does rubbing do

>>17515482
According to mayan legends, it's what the gods do.

>>17515508
ask your dad

>>17515391
and decide to be a baseball batter, make a custom bat, ball and hat and oneshot putits while shouting 'strike!'

>>17515508
suden innocently perverted question detected

now i realised i never tried to rub myself in Elona that is . I wonder if Ano added some lewd flavor text for that.

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>>17515519

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>>17515519

>>17515524
Brush doesnt count. Throw it away.

>>17515526
How unexpected. I hope its just an untranslated piece.

>>17515531
Translator's note: "What" means "what"

how do I increase the weight of my bullet?

For the quest which requires me to kill another guild leader, does that prevent me from joining either of the other guilds in the future? I want to get the sword and then join the mage's guild after.

>>17515803
cursed flying scroll

>>17515803
also, turn it into a heavy material like adamant if you haven't already

>>17515816
are they rare or something, never found one before (lvl 34)
>>17515821
yeah, I changed it to adamantium

is there a way you can target your spells or abilities? I keep shadow stepping to the wrong enemy and dying

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>>17515900

I got sexy dance feature and 30 performance and still can't do ensemble. Anyone knows what am I missing?

>>17515970
You don't gain new special actions until the next time you level up after meeting the skill requirement.

>>17515976
oh, good to know. thanks.

>>17515911
yeah I'm retarded. been using that for a while but just to check enemy power levels

Next changelog continued:

>Level of small gamble chests sold by shops now depends on the shop's invest level, so you might want to invest in inn shops.

?? But nobody uses-
>Unlocking doors and chests now give experience based on the unlock difficulty. This bonus is higher for chests that need lockpicks.

Oh hell yeah my dude

>>17515071
It's because the variable portion of the formula, the part that cares about stats, is clamped to 20mil. Then you add 15, like with all characters.

>>17515875
Flying scrolls are very rare, second only to scroll of attribute. If you get a Magic Shop to rank 160 they should sell 1 flying scroll about 1 in 5 to 10 restocks.

>>17515911
Is there any way to change that binding? I'm using a tenkey-less keyboard.

Currently I used the windows virtual keyboard and then used x-mouse button control to set MB5 to *, just so that I would have access to the key. Would be nice if I could just set it to something in game though.

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Was Yacatect supposed to be a god that Noa actually wanted to implement before he quit, or is it full fanfiction?

Also, did we ever consider using discord for elona?

>>17516150
An elona discord already exist.

>>17516150
>fanfiction
face it harry, elona+ is the true version now

>>17516170
That's the way I see it. At this point there's more Elona+ than there is Elona

The beginner's guide tells me to gene engineer a rouge wizard into my wife. I don't understand what it means by this. I got the gene machine and the gene engineer trait, what am I suppose to do from here?

>>17516178
Buy a rogue wizard from the slave trader. Use the gene machine, select your wife, then select the wizard. Then sleep every night for breakfast and sikk gains

>>17516178
Gene engineer a rogue wizard into your wife.
Seriously man, try before asking stupid questions. Grab two nobody pets and see what the fuck shit does.

>>17516178
Go to the town of Derphy. There's a slave trader there who will sell various human pets.
If you're level 10+ one of the options is a Rogue Wizard. If he offers a different pet, pick the first chat option to reroll it until you see the option you want. Then do >>17516183

How viable are pure melee classes like warrior? What races are good for them?

>>17516272
Perfectly viable, like everything else.
All of them, but Fairy is going to be balls to the wall at first.

>>17516285
But are they difficult compared to other classes that are more magic oriented?

>>17516293
Elona is exactly as hard as you make it. Class has nothing to do with it past the few hours, and race (baring snail) means little later on.

>>17516301
Race comes in three flavors for late game:
Fairy, with insane defenses but a 1s limitation forcing you to farm flying scrolls and do without weight-based bonuses
Mutant, with a variety of different body parts not available to standard races
and everything else. Even Snail can overcome his speed penalty to be basically the same as the regular options.

How do I incognito into a guild? The alarm goes off anyways.

>>17516386
Incognito after entering. Note that the guild master is never fooled.
Judicious teleport use is advised.

>>17516323
Although a Snail can never overcome the fact Cleaners will throw salt at you to kill you.

>>17516396
Worked, thank you! Is there a penalty for killing guildmasters besides karma loss, do you know?

>>17516415
I don't think so, they should respawn like anyone else.

>>17516413
On the flip side, if they survive long enough to reach South Tyris, Snails can pick up whatever limbs they want from Doctor Gavela. You could get 12 hands without having to savescum.

Is the Al'ud worth using?
It's giving me a bonus 150 to defense.
Warmage took me from 95% casting chance with it to 100% too.

>>17516606
It's a shield. Use it if you want PV more than melee offense.

>>17516506
You would still have to savescum, since Doctor Gavela only gives you random body parts. You could keep resetting every time you got a non-hand, but the amount of hero cheese you would need to make that possible is beyond reason. Were talking billions, possibly trillions to make up the life cost.

>>17516767
First of all, Gavela can be told what to do now.
Secondly, most people here play on Advancing.

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>>17516170
Looking around a bit, there were quite a few more derivatives of Elona than I thought there would be.
Although a lot of them don't appear to be active anymore, a couple are still updated, such as omake_overhaul (a derivative of a derivative of a derivative?), and some of the rest at least lasted till 2015.

What made Elona+ the definitive spiritual successor? I guess it's the amount of new(fanfiction) content + consistent updates?

Kind of interested in what the others did/are doing though.

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but nothing happened?

>>17516929
I do not understand what you are trying to communicate here.

>>17516954
>something crazy is about to happen

It's a message that just appeared suddenly when i was gathering in a dungeon.

Then a jingle sound played aseveral turns after, but I didn't notice anything

>>17516977
Read the message again.
>Something is crazy about something!

>>17516977
>>17516981
'something' - npc out of sight
'crazy about' - effect of fascinating dance, used by some friendly butterfly in your case.

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>>17515531
You get the same message when rubbing yourself with or without a brush on you. When squeezing yourself you ponder your life decisions. Magic kiss on self doesn't do anything, bewitch shows the little animation but otherwise nothing. Using a stethoscope on self when female makes your character blush, but you don't call yourself a pervert (you already know).

>>17517103
Also makes males blush.

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>>17517161
Nani?!

>>17516792
Advancing? I don't remember that difficulty.

>>17518011
It was renamed to "Essential" some time ago.

>>17518011
All the years until now ''normal'' mode had been called advancing.

YERLES BEST RACE

>>17518354
GUNS > MAGIC

How would i go about changing text fonts?

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thank

should I eat little sisters if I don't need to complete the quest atm? stat boosts seem nice

>>17513920
They cannot make effective use of DW like a mutant or 2H like everyone else, however.

>>17518410
Are guns good? I was thinking of playing a gunner since I've never played one.

>>17518476
The spawn rate of Big Daddies drop as you eat more Little Sisters.

>>17518490
Ranged extra attacks are capped at 1 for regular attacks compared to 3 for melee, but ranged does have special ammo, and will get new gauge attacks in the next E+ version.

>>17518476
The quest is repeatable and is the only way to get duplicates of some precious items.
Killing Sisters permanently reduces the Big Daddy spawn rate.
It's a grade-A way to fuck your file over.

>>17518490
Guns are.. okay. kind of. you have limited 'charges' for special shots that actually deal substantial damage, and without that special ammo damage is pretty horrible. To recharge you need to craft one-use item or go back to town's blacksmith for refill.

However, guns are exceptionally strong with those ammo charges, especially burst ammo - its one of the hardest hitting tools in this game.

So, guns are good in general but require some flexibility from the player with item management.

If you want guns, i recommend going yerles or mutant. Best early gun type is machinegun, there are several good unique artifacts later, but avoid pistols. Shotguns are great for shooting at melee range, sniper rifles are exceptionally good overall if you get to some 200 skill/attribute levels, laser gun is always a safe choice after early game.

Xbows and bows are not much worse, sometimes even better than guns, btw.

I was going to get diablo for my little girl but then I got a drake rod from a dungeon. This is the first time i've seen "it stops time", "It deals (element) damage" and "additional attack" so I have no idea how good they actually are.

Which is better?

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Drake_Rod
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Diablo

>>17518547
Why would being a mutant be good for a gunner, the extra arms?

>>17518511
its not '3' for melee. you can have up to 8 total attacks per round with melee, or some crazy 20+ attacks if you are multi-handed mutant, it all depends on build and melee style.
Easiest damage dealing method early is two hand melee style - 1 weapon without shield. Easiest lategame style is martial arts melee and magic.

But pretty much everything works in Elona, only some builds require more effort than others.

Can someone explain "Nefia Fever Mode"? All I know is that somewhere, something has better loot and probably more danger. I'm not sure what or where though.

>>17518592
Nefia is the name of the continent (elona = Eternal League Of NefiA)

Fever mode basically applies to every dungeon you can go into, I think, so just raid any ones nearby when it happens. You'll know it's under effect when you start seeing music tickets in dungeons.

>>17518578
extra hands/arms/feet
interlocking shooting mechanism is not a bad enchantment for gunner, and direct damage boost from gloves and claws makes it easy to boost damage.
Another important point about guns is that you get full benefits from wearing shield, unlike melee or mage characters. It greatly increases survivability of your PC.

>>17518564
Diablo is annoying on pets unless you disable spell animation completely. Drake rod is worse, tho.

>>17518584
I've never really tried melee to be honest. I always play a caster as my PC and load up on high-speed pets with ranged weapons. The last thing I want to do is tell a Bell or a Quickling to rush into melee range, and by the time a slower pet gets to the enemy it's either going to be dead, or it's too dangerous to risk getting close to.

Playing a melee PC would change my whole paradigm on the game, but I don't think I can get into just bumping into enemies for combat all game.

>>17518613
Elona need autocombat and auto exploration like Crawl. I want to otab for 8 hours straight.

>>17518613
I realize that a well-trained melee pet can probably handle the "too dangerous" enemies, the problem is they never really get a chance to train unless I grind them specifically. At least in a ranged party everyone gets a chance to take a shot.

>>17518584
It's max 1+3 attacks PER WEAPON in melee. 8 total attacks is the max with two weapons (1+3+1+3), so it's the max for most characters. If you have 10 weapons equipped in 10 hands you'll get at least 10 attacks.

>>17518599
Tyris is the name of the continent. Nefia is the in-lore name for dungeons, named after a previous era from which they originate.

>>17518599
Tyris is the name of the continent (divided into North Tyris and South Tyris). Nefia is the local name for what most games call "mystery dungeons".

>>17518613
bells are the best for melee actually. No hands make them perfect for MA once you boost their life with ruby gear and cheese. Evolved dragons are great as well.
But, its whatever suits your gameplay style in the end. I can suggest several ways to avoid problem that you mentioned, but i think you should just play how you like instead of min-maxing everything like some of us.

>>17518629
nope. math of elona is much fancier than thsi, and martial arts got limit of 7 extra attacks out of the box. I'd ask you to prove your opinion with a piece of source code related to this limit(you wont find it i'm afraid)

>>17518599
I think the flames around the clock appear when nefia fever is in effect. It doesn't say specifically, but they seem to coincide.

>>17518661
Martial arts is a special case where you can get seven "Furthermore" attacks with enough MA skill and "It increases the chance of extra melee attack" enchantment as long as you don't have a weapon equipped. Normal cap is 3 "Furthermore"s per weapon (this also applies to martial arts with a shield/claw equipped).
There is no hard cap of exactly 8 melee attacks per round; it's disinformation/urban legend. I've posted screenshots in previous threads of a mutant character getting 11-13 attacks per round.

>>17518633
>>17518635
oh, whoops.
thanks for correcting in a nice way.

>>17518547
Zero Shoot is also stupidly good.
Kiting means you can turn a mobility advantage into a certain victory if the circumstances are good.

Melee can thrive on "run forwards and mash arrow keys", ranged is about kiting and spacts and ammo.

>>17518691
There IS a single hard cap of 7 extra attacks. If you have more than one weapon you can get more than 8 total attacks, obviously. Burst ammo allows whooping 30+ attacks per round.
DW skill got extra attack bonus from the skill level, in addition to equipment's bonus.
Multi-handed mutants got soft cap of only 1 extra attack per weapon for DW style once they get past 6 hands.

>>17518605
Mutant gunner is for more ARMS, not hands. having more HANDS reduces extra attacks exponentially. read the code. Use gloves, not tonfas. Stop at 2 hands.

>>17518728
Multiple possible Shoot slots when?

>>17518661
Fuck you. We've posted this source code multiple times about 9-10 threads ago. Clearly you haven't been here so why are you talking. However, yes you are correct, melee attacks aren't capped the way they said it. Fuck, this code should be in the pastebin. Just google 4chan handkazu, it's the only result.

>>17518731
Probably never, to be honest. I think shoot slot check is hard coded to only accept 1, but I ONLY BRIEFLY SKIMMED that part. Would probably be real complex to change. However, I'd fuckin love it.

>>17518740
The formula's on the wiki:
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Equipment_attributes#Chance_of_extra_melee.2Franged_attack_in_Elona.2B

It doesn't have anything about the extra attack caps, though, and I'm pretty sure that you can only get one extra ranged attack from "It increases the chance of extra ranged attack" effects.
The entire extra attack system is incredibly confusing. If I could understand the source code, I'd create a complete explanation of how the whole thing works (bits of source code with explanations of what they mean), and then the pastebin of it could be added to the OP.

>>17518740
if ( extraattack < 3 | (cdata(96, cc) == 0 & extraattack < 7 & attackskill == 106) ) {

Meh and here i've had some hope to revive this useless debate.
Pastebin should include simple:

Ranged could get maximum additional 1 extra attack without special ammo.
All styles of melee with weapons got maximum 3 extra attack limit per weapon.
MA can get up to 7 extra attacks.
DW get bonus extra attack boost from skill level, but limit is still the same.
Elona has a soft cap on 2+ extra attacks for multi-handed characters regardless of weapon types, penalty turns progressively severe after 6 hands, 1st extra attack doesnt get penalty.

how can I offer stuff to my God?

>>17518810
O or enter at altar of the god

How many potions do I need to give Pael's mom in Noyel to cure her for good?

>>17518810
>>17518816
Or better yet, at an unclaimed altar or the altar of another god. You get a large bonus for turning an altar that way. Just be careful not to turn all the altars of a god you might want to worship later.

do you guys think Elona set in the past or future

>>17518808
additionally, Martial arts never get a penalty from extra hands, but all your hands should be empty for this, effectively turning those hands into wasted bodyslots.

>>17518821
1 and wait.

>>17518777
Don't read the wiki. Always read the wiki. If you have a question, read the wiki first. Don't trust the wiki. The wiki is always wrong. Read the wiki page for every update and memorize what's changed. The wiki is always wrong. Read the decompiled failpile that the E+C modders have to use instead of reading the wiki. Drink heavily. Read the wiki.

>>17518830
How do Claws and Shields change the formula? You are supposed to still use martial arts with (only) those equipped,

>>17518829
The future

>>17518840
Yeah but the extra attack passive ONLY works when unarmed. It's an update.

>>17518829
Long ago. Galaxy far far away.

>>17518838
wiki is rarely wrong unless its a clear opinion of the 'you should, its best to, you definitely have to' kind - those are almost always wrong.

Changelogs 99% of the time are correct, but its not any better than reading source.hsp.

>>17518840
Shields of all kinds change attack style to 'shield', shich uses MA skill for damage calculation and trains MA skill. Yes we know its fucking confusing.

>>17518830
I meant after she transforms

>>17518863
I guess my end goal is now to acquire a Xaren Satelite Unit, give it custom AI to emphasize martial arts, and train the hell out of it. It'll be a while before I have the dominate levels to capture one though.

>>17518867
Spoliers She doesn't, you just become unable to give her anymore since she's not in pain an accepts her new form for paels sake.

>>17518871
I know Bell of Termination is faster, but shadow step saves a lot of turns that would be spent moving, plus I get the Satelite sooner.

>>17518871
Simply ALP copy <Karata> if you want a completely broken MA pet.
Black angel or child dragon are still better damage dealers on the long run, especially with custom AI.

>>17518877
Oh and I'm not sure how many get you there, I gave her somewhere around 20 I think, maybe more.

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>>17518852
Wiki has outdated info/ user guesses often enough that it should be noted. For a while the spell page for E+ said spells fall off at a distance (changed a while ago). I bet you think scarecrows actually affect gardening too.

>>17518871
I have a pro-jet that I soul-spindled for lower INI on a gene file.
Now that I've got her some cheese she's a MA powerhouse.

>>17518881
Explain?

>>17518887
Karata is an npc that has both the Metal and resEle flags set, but unlike other metal enemies, does not lose the resEle flag if tamed.
Basically making it next to invincible.

I'm convinced it's a gross oversight, so I refuse to use one myself.

>>17518883
>elona brain
I love this

>>17518897
OK then, but how is the Black Angel better? I guess Lulwy's trick over the speed cap, once you've trained the fuck out of her speed?

>>17518476
Eating tem makes the quest permanently harder to complete forever.
Since you can do the quest infinitely for hero cheeses and happy apples this is a pretty bad idea.

>>17518883
Well there was only an assumption that scarecrows MAY decrease spawns on wiki.
>>17518887
With custom AI, you can keep boost and other buffs constantly on, and teach uncontroll/attribute/clear mind skills for crazy damage. Black angel got good speed bost as a bonus. Dragon Child got megid flame to boost elemental attribute attacks.
Karata is simply nearly invulnerable if you give him some life, and has no useless for MA hand slots.

how's utima as a pet?

>>17518919
That's what I was thinking, but even with Boost AND Lulwy's Trick after training speed as high as it will go with AP (800 according to wiki), the Black Seraph still wouldn't complete with the 1536 starting speed of the Xaren Satelite, or the 2000 speed of the bell of termination, plus of course the cMetal.

>>17518930
Its easy to boost speed, and base starting speed makes it really hard to gain AP unless you reset your pet stats, which makes high starting speed completely useless for lategame.

Boosting speed for pets with food is very easy now, It may be even a waste of AP to boost it with Leold's service.

>>17518695
>>17518633
I think Nefia isn't the era, it was the name of the civilization that used to thrive in North Tyris, but was wiped out or something.

All the random dungeons and such are ruins of Nefia, which seem capable of not only moving locations but also resetting. They also infect people who go inside them with "Nefia Syndrome" which causes insanity after prolonged exposure.

Adventurers seem immune to the later stages of Nefia though. It's basically a lore reason to explain why you see random neutral NPCs and the like in Nefia dungeons, they're infected with later stages of Nefia Syndrome.

>>17518949
Oh good, i usually wipe them out immediately. One dropped a treasure map one time so I feel obliged. Good to know I'm saving them.

>>17518930
Also, boost's main benefit is not speed, but %% str bonus which multiplies your damage. There is aslo a speed spell that boosts speed by up to 800. Megidflame makes elemental MA much stronger later. And all those benefits come with low INI, which makes AP farming very easy.

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call the cops i dont give a fuck

>>17518956
The only way to actually save all those wandering little girls is to turn them into your permanently leashed and properly whipped to the point of complete obedience slaves.

>>17518972
wut

>>17518972
You're getting ingame V&

Everybody loves Shena's ass

>>17519037
Raphael's ass is the best.

>>17512702

>>17518808
>>17518830
>>17518863
Add to paste maybe?

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If I choose a notable skill I don't have will It be automatically learned or no?

>>17519046
Silly <Rainbow Homo>
>>17519059
Yes, it also adds 10 levels to that skill.

>>17518972
What did you do anon

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Good

Is there a reason why "pistols" suck? I've seen the damage spread and the range modifiers, I mean WHY are they that way? It sucks that there's no reason to use one. And goddamnit, that's a revolver.

>>17519098
They don't necessarily suck, if you find one with say elemental damage/invoke or that is living by all means improve the material, enchant it and use it. They are also the only gun that can use magnum ammo, which adds a nice number of damage dice.

>>17519110
Nah they still suck and magnum doesnt solve this.
>>17519098
Because they suck IRL too. Their only benefit of light weight is properly represented ingame.

>>17519110
Correction shotguns also use magnum

>>17519110
Additionally, elemental damage scales with base damage, so only invoke ignores bad rnagemod for pistol.

>>17519110
Ohhhhh okay, they make up for it when you have a very heavy magnum ammo. Gotcha.

>>17519119
??? By that logic magic should deal 0 damage because magic sucks IRL. It's a singleplayer videogame, why make one class of item much worse than others?

>>17519126
Oh dear god. Ok, maybe pistol is actually pretty good.

>>17519130
>>17519126

Wait that says ONLY invoke. What about a gravity sphere pistol? Does that solve it?

>>17519126
Does this ignore the ammo? Magnum sounds alright, 2d11+15 is nothing to sneeze at. But then again if you're going to be firing at close range all the time and want to use magnum might as well take a shotgun

>>17519138
That's what I mean, why have an item that is just all around worse than others in its class? Especially considering rarity is not at all a concern.

>>17519098
Pistols have better range than shotguns and better accuracy than machine guns and sniper rifles.

Give me one good reason to play Elona.

>>17519138
How does XdY+Z work on weapons, does it add +Z damage to X of XdY or to the Y?

>>17519152
There isn't one, don't bother

>>17519152
Elona is the kind of game played by people that look into it themselves and want to play it on their own without others telling them to

>>17519155
You roll X dice with Y sides then add Z

>>17519155
Z is a flat bonus after XdY are rolled

So if you have 3d5+10, you roll 3d5 (3-15 damage), and then add 10, for a result of 13-25 damage

>>17519151
I'm reading this "Elona Material Technical Information" packet and it says the opposite regarding accuracy, but yes to range.

>>17519138
2d15+15 is pretty weak if its reduced by 40%.

>>17519175
Pistols almost always have an large accuracy bonus in ()s at the end. Snipers have a large negative, and machineguns only get small numbers there.

>>17519182
Oh, weird. It says in this table that the base hit bonus for pistol is 7 and for machine gun it's 10, and of course machine gun range spread is objectively better all around*:

Machine Gun 08-10-10-09-08-07-02
Pistol 09-10-08-06-02
*pistol slightly better at point blank

>>17519192
Ok you are right, machine guns have bigger bonuses there. I really thought it was pistols

>>17519130
>>17519145
Because pistols suck, deal with it and move on.
You could ask Noa personally why he made this game close to traditional dungeon crawlers.
Pistol's only benefit is it's weight, which is important for some starts and fairy.

If you have troubles with comprehension,


Its a noob weapon for classes with low str and fairies.


>>17519133
Gravity sphere is nice but for endgame its only a support invoke for status effect. Damage scaling is pretty bad.

>>17519204
Yeah, this is what I don't get. I figured pistols would have something good going for them. I expected the hl1 .357 but got a .22 laserprinted by upright dogs

>>17519211
Man you are so rude. Why are you even here. Do you have fun?

>>17519218
I just dont understand why do you have to ask the same thing 4 times, getting basically the same answer every time. This is kinda rude towards those who answer your questions as well.

>>17519218
Because you were lying about game mechanics.

Why were you spewing lies about the game?
Oh, right, because you were being an idiot. Stay unfucked or fuck off.

>>17519211
It's true that in traditional RLs there are entire classes of weapons that are pretty much useless to the player. Like small wooden clubs. They exist to add variety, maybe to be used in a desperate situation, and for weak enemies to use.

>>17519227
No one lied about game mechanics here, bucko. Try reading the wiki!

>>17519238
>Pistols almost always have an large accuracy bonus in ()s at the end. Snipers have a large negative, and machineguns only get small numbers there.
>Pistols have better range than shotguns and better accuracy than machine guns and sniper rifles.

>>17519246
Read this page:
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Ranged_Weapons

Then read this:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13x1Si6M6w_SB9ucf2FMBq4ahhkM-UfBozQ4SZqWzfOQ/edit#gid=0

Then read this:
>>17518883

Zero shoot is a consideration for gun users.
It's fairly spammable, does not care about your gun's range, always crits, and doubles damage on top of that.
My mostly-wizard uses it as a "melee" option.

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There's a lot of pretty rude posts in this thread as of late, is this because of that youtube video? Begone, evil spirits.

Hey guys, if wiki IS wrong, you could just fix it instead of whining about volunteer work not being perfect. You can even do this as anon.

>>17519255
There always has been some percentage of b& style posts and fed up remarks, its normal.

>>17519252
can you use burst ammo with zero shoot, actually? ..it would turn ammo-based weapons into best boss killers so i strongly doubt it, for some reason.

>>17519267
Just you wait! We're getting ammo-specific gauge releases next update!!

>>17519269
It may be an indirect boost for pistols actually.Just like magnum ammo back then.

>>17519259
This, it's just a couple of players editing pages when they feel like it, not nearly enough to reasonably expect them to keep it up to date. Anyone can edit it and if there's a template or something you don't know what to do with just leave a comment and they add the info in a while, I've done that pretty often

>>17519275
Exciting! Looking forward to the time stop release obviously.

>>17519269
But also more shop nerfs and old crafting recipe removals.

>>17519168
>>17519169
Thanks

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>>17519296
>removal
Oh God. aa......aaaaAAAAAAA

>>17519327
They ARE being replaced with new ones, but, well, we'll see how it pans out.
Ano doesn't have a hardon for "bloat removal" like some certain people do.

>>17514942
>inb4 dealer gets 21
It happened waaay too often.

>>17519349
On the other hand
>dealer hits on a 20 and busts

>>17519327
Back to the Rogue.

not the case for elona+ anyway. i dont remember any feature that ano removed without adding better features in it's place.

>>17519255
nah, just people being jerks sometimes

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>>17518897
It might be overpowered, but if I ever get to mashing sprites together, I want to make a monster from Monster Rancher called Jack-In-The-Cho and it'd be perfect. Probably arm it with socks and panties for the best nonsense.

Of course, I'm not terribly good with sprites so if anyone else wanted to try that'd be great. If not, I'll get to it eventually I figure.

hey, i'm a complete retard and i want to get server working, how should server.txt file work?

Almost all the packs are outdated, isn't there anyone capable of updating them?

>>17519556
look* i meant how it should look and how can i get it working. Instructions in link posted aren't clear enough for me

>>17519561
Yes, *anyone* is capable of updating them. All you have to do is take the newest default sheet, compare it to the old pack sheet, and copy over the handful of new sprites that were added from new to old.

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>>17519556
Delete the server.txt file you have. Make a new one from scratch and name it server.txt Only one thing needs to be in it and that's the address in which you're connecting. I screenshot my server.txt file in my picture. Yes, that's all that's in it. From there you need to go into config.txt and make sure server list is changed to 1. Boot up your game and go to options then to network settings. Make sure use network is set to Yes. You can set the other stuff to Yes if you wish. Now load your save. You should see a small box showing the address of what you have in your server.txt file. It should look like what I have in my pic.

To chat you hit the tab key on your keyboard and a dialog like my pic will open. Enter what you want to say there. Chat should appear in your log and you can see a dedicated log of chat by expanding your log with the / key on your keyboard and then hitting tab until you reach the chat tab. Should look like my bottom right picture. My msg, hello /jp/ should be found in the chat log.

Due to how people seem to be having difficulty with setting up chat, I wonder if newer Elona Customs can come bundled with correct server.txt and config.txt files set up so new people can automatically start chatting if they want to.

>>17519723
Well why didn't anynoe do that and upload it?

>>17519561
You are capable of doing that, just like everyone else.

>>17519732
There's many and people often just make their own. I personally just use the default. Probably the only way things like this get updated after the original authors vanish is because some guy wants to use one and updates it for himself, then posts it for others to use.

>>17519732
Most of us who actually bother with making up to date custom spritesheets make our own versions instead.

>>17519731
thanks dude, now all is clear and sound. Thanks for the effort.

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>>17519521
How's this?

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>>17519863

what are the most useful buffs? offensive spells?

>>17520166
All of them.
Ice Ball if you're going to debuff before blasting, Magic Storm otherwise. Meteor for killing fucking everything.

best wait to level speed is eating shoes?

11am wake up from shit bed in derphy. Hungry but only have beer on me so I drink enough not to die from hunger.

12pm find dungeon my level to do. Everything is fine until I meet the imp boss and die from some condition I can't pronounce. Wake up in my cave with a condom in my ass with less gold and stats than before and I'm very hungry.

3pm whore myself out in derphy to afford whatever shit the inn serves up. At least it's filling. Decide to try the arena. Orc was easy but a couple tuns later some thieves took a bit of my fight money. decide to restock on alcohol.

6pm do some hunting quests. Piece of cake and not bad gold. Decide to buy some food stuff and head over to vernis to maybe finish some quests. Top baby gang of bandits attempt to rob me. Wanted to run but they beat the shit out of me.

8pm wake up in my cave with less gold none of my food stuff and my feelings hurt. Curl up on the cave floor and cry myself to sleep. Tomorrow will be a better day.

This is a typical day for us right? What's your day like for your character anon? Dare I ask what a day is like for a player that actuAlly know what the fuck they're doing?

>>17520166
Buffs: All
Offensive spells: Everything but acid ground, fire wall, chaos eye, dark eye. Focus on ball spells/meteor for best damage/Lv. Of course, darkness bolt is easier to get stock for than Eclipse, so it's good enough.
Even Web can be ok at mid levels. Probably not lategame void, but one day I'll get there and tell you.

Near-useless spells: Gravity, Restore Body/Spirit. At least Mutation lets you change your name. Level them all anyway, just because you might as well.

>>17520328
I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. Brace yourself, this is what my midgame is like:
>Be me, Lv95 caster
>Wake up at dawn day 1
>Run around and check all my shops on schedule, Seven League boots +1k speed means it takes me 15 minutes to move 1 overworld tile
>Check for adventurers, duel glove them and sell their shit after changing their materials (RIP, no longer a thing after next update)
>By noon, this is done, so I reorganize my (full) 4-D pocket and do some fusing. One high potion of soma takes 10 hours, so I usually just do a couple bottles of water.
>It's evening now, but of course my character doesn't sleep but every 2 days. I dive a dungeon, spam oracle every time I change a floor, dump my shit in the shop.
>Use my statue of Yacatect. Check if I can use my statues of Kumiromi yet and if the day contains a 3 or a 9.
>Dawn of day 2: More dungeon diving, reup my potentials with blessed potions I got from shop checking day 1.
>Afternoon: Reading books I got from shopping if my LRN potential is acceptably high
>Evening: More dungeon diving, maybe walk along the roads for travelling vendors (I want a living sniper rifle)
>Night: Use my statue of Yacatect. Check if I can use my statues of Kumiromi yet and if the day contains a 3 or a 9. Go to sleep at 9pm on the nose, using a paperwork happy bed I carry around for max good sleeps.
>Wake up next day to 2 items and breakfast made by my wife, ready to check my shops (48 hours passed) and sell that shit she made, after turning it into griffon scale.
>Living the dream

Christ I can't wait to hear Kai's day

I'm new to JP and Elona. I've played a few different classes and races, but I wanna know what are your favorite races/classes to play? (Not looking for best, but rather prefered)

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>>17519561
>>17519723
>>17519760
>>17519771
Here's the one I made recently, combining from several different hodgepodge of sprite sheets to my taste.

Since I personally don't like an overabundance of monster girls or excessive out-of-place cameos (all these touhous, kantai and FateGO) I had to spend literally several hours dissecting existing ones and then making sure they fit properly and then cherry pricking sprites I liked the most.

And even then, there are still sprites I left in here that I'd probably like to replace but I didn't yet because I haven't progress far enough in the game to notice them.

>>17520382
If we're talking about favorite, I like Lich for roleplay value. You're probably going to get a lot of comments that say if you didn't pick Fairy/Mutant/Golem then your race doesn't matter in the long run at all.

>>17520382
I like farmers for a peaceful and comfortable start farming in Yowyn. Elea are nice, I like all the human races too.

>>17520393
if only the elona sprite uploader website was easier to browse...

>>17520393
is that big red/black dragon kalameet ?

>>17520368
How is changing the material of your shop fodder even worth the effort? Just spend that time gathering more materials and you get to craft 50 extra panties. If your pets all have gathering skills, they will shower you in rare materials after a dungeon or a couple void floors. Interact with self to collect mats from all pets at once.

>>17519982
Not him but you did good anon

>>17520412
probably. There tends to be a lot of elona sprites of existing IP.

Kalameet is something I'm okay with. Although maybe it'd be better if kept that sprite as a user one

>>17520420
Because often you can spend the equivalent of 10k to turn something from being worth 100k to being worth 2m. Consider the best case scenario, which is common: Perl has value mod 400, Griffon scale has value mod 1100. It takes one change material scroll to turn Perl into Griffon scale. It doesn't exactly triple the price, but it's very nice.

However, forget I said any of that, because materials will matter much less in the next update. Maybe it will matter so little that making 50 more panties won't cut it either...

>>17520380
wake up
kill every god
go to level 1000000 of the void
kill giant near immortal crabs
give helpful advice
sleep optional

>>17520393
o shit ty

>>17520435
I lied actually, the best case scenario is your paper bulletproof vest with 3 "maintains" mods and a "negates." Paper has a value mod of 20. Compare that to 1100.

>>17520435
100k to 2m would be nice, but you then go on to say that it's only a 2.75x mult at best. It would probably just be easier to find or make another half dozen of whatever you are selling.'

>>17520471
That's way more than a single scroll though. For 11 scrolls it had better be something damn valuable.

>>17520412
yea, nito is in there too

>>17520481
Definitely, I save them for valuable things like that. I assure you, it's not valuable to you as a player but those mods are $$$. Also I don't make the scrolls, I just buy them. You're buying gain material scrolls from your magic vendors, why not buy change material?

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Success!

Yerleswood was actually significantly less fearsome than Ulzassil was. Probably because I don't think it managed to land a single blow.
My martial arts pet adds chaos damage with Attribute, and she blinded it on the first hit.
I followed up with Slow and Mist of Frailness, and my team and I finished it off before slow wore off.

The default music for South Tyris Chaos Forts is pretty damn good.

I'm probably just too incompetent to find this info on the wiki, but what does weapon hardening actually do?

>>17520646
Enchants it, every +1 = +1 to damage and +1 to hit.
You can also do this for armor, where it's +2 DV/PV. This is probably the most cost effective defense improvement in the game for the first few +s

Do arkhai make great pets or something? I saw some posts a few threads ago about people upset they couldn't find one and now I've found one.

>>17519731
does this mean moongates will start working again if I use this?
Will people be able to explore my home etc?

>>17520683
No sadly.

>>17520669
Might be for an arkhai ranch. Every 15 days or so you get another arkhai, which has a chance of dropping an Astral Light Pen. It's not good odds but I rarely see arkhai in dungeons so I think it's fine to do.

>>17520688
That's disappointing.

>>17520623
how do you add an element to unarmed?

>>17520706
The "Attribute" special action. Pets can get it by purchasing the "Tactical Martial Arts" AP ability pack for them, which also gives them Clear Mind and Body Blow.
Players earn it on level up after having at least 40 Martial Arts skill.

It adds elemental damage to unarmed attacks with the element based on the user's highest resistance, but you can set it to an element manually by using the Element Eyes item from the dwarves.

>>17520393
valkyrie sprite is off by 2px

I'm a Yerles Gunner and I'm wondering which guild would be best for me?

Did the new chat server just become kill?

>>17520794
mage guild is best for everyone in terms of long-term usefulness because of the ability to order specific books -- everyone wants buffs and utility spells, even if you don't use magic to do damage

thief guild and fighter guild are mostly useful for the exclusive skills their trainers teach
fighter guild has eye of mind (aka critical chance)
thief guild has pickpocket and trap detection

note that you can get these skills without joining the guild by breaking/sneaking in and using a disguise kit to talk to the trainer

This one: http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Flame_Edge
or this one? http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Claymore_(artifact)

Damage dice alone they're pretty close, just not sure how the other attributes factor in.

>>17520794
they all suck for a gunner, I went fighter's guild to get the sword for a pet and blacksmith enchanting cost
library of the gods in lost irva has a spell writer who allows me to reserve books despite not being in the mage's guild, but I don't know if she actually does it or if the menu is bugged

>>17520870
You can use the crow but it doesn't get as many books in stock and they cost a lot more. It is still nice though if you're not in the mages guild.

>>17520842
You can also get them with a (blessed) scroll of gain attribute or directly via wish.

>>17520853
Flame Edge hits significantly harder on a normal blow (higher base damage, Fire damage)..
The Claymore will occasionally outperform it though, thanks to crit and absolute pierce.

I'd opt for the Flame Edge.

Is there a way of increasing the resolution past 1280?

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>>17520328
6 AM: Get served breakfast in bed by my allies. While eating breakfast have one of my allies report how much my shops made the previous day along with news on whether I'm due to fight in the arena, news about other adventurers and their activities, and anything else of note such as herb seed gathering day.

7 AM: Meet with my 8 house servants which sell magic goods. Purchase wonder scrolls, gain material scrolls, and sometimes spellbooks of wish when they carry them.

8-3PM: Explore another 50 floors of the void looting everything I come across including monster meat. Every now and then break for an herb snack. Once finished swing by a healer and informer to patch up my allies, uncurse stuff and restore their attributes, and determine if any of them have capped out their AP. Collect all materials from my allies.

4-6PM: Tend to my farms and ranch. Once that's done I drop all the loot I got from the void and stuff I harvested into the appropriate shops. If I have a decent amount of materials I'll craft stuff to sell in those shops as well.

7PM-9PM: Train some spells and around this time sit down with a meal with my allies at my restaurant/food shop. Dine on steaks, herbs, and let the wine and beer flow. Once suitably drunk and tired somehow make it home and to my bed where sometimes an ally is there to warm it. Have fun with her, doze off, and repeat this daily cycle for the time being.

>>17520885
Thanks for the input, already have that one upgraded so it'll save me some money

>>17520909
Jesus

>>17520898
try config file

>>17520909
can I have a different sexy time screen for each of my many ladies?

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Oh, right.
I forgot that Lulwy decided to take up residence in Vernis.

>>17520842
Fighter's Guild has the best early game benefits I'd say, the savings on enhancing your equipment will save you a ton early on.

It's also the only Guild with an actually useful final reward.

>>17521038
No, probably not the way you're thinking of anyways. I do have a different bg_re16(sleep sharing) and bg_re10(breakfast) image for each of my allies and swap them out though when focusing on a particular ally. Have a backup folder in the graphics folder where I just keep all those pictures for swapping in and out. It's certainly not the ideal solution but who knows, one can hope that in the future you can really have multiple pictures for different allies that the game will be able to intelligently draw from.

>>17521057
Couldn't resist Shena's ass.

Does "It speeds up your travel progress" from multiple equipment stack? And is there a cap?

>>17521073
No one can resist Shena's ass.

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>>17520683
The server that held the list of homes to visit has been shut down. So visiting the homes of Japanese players isn't possible.

Having said that, Moongates and by extention the Show House still work...kind of. While you don't have a file listing pum files to pull down due to server shutdown, you can still enter houses and other user created content that you manually put in your user folder.

For instance, an anon created custom dungeons for people interested and a custom battle for me. Those pum files should be located in one of the pastebins I think. I downloaded the custom battle and can access anon's creation using the show house or moongate like I have pictured.

I think it's possible to export your home in Elona using the F8 key. This will generate a pum file of your home which you can then share with other players. They would just download your pum file, put it in their user folder, and access it using the show house or moongate in their game.

The mod pastebin could be used to provide a list of houses people can download and visit.

>>17521074
yes, dunno

>>17521070
such a dedication.

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If only I was not a gunner, and that I had a pet that could fully use it.

If I use a scroll of inferior material on my happy bed and turn it into one made out of paper, does that give it any sort of penalties to the potentials it can give? Or can I just lug it around with me instead of an eastern bed or sleeping bag considering it would weigh so little.

>>17521749
Making it paper does nothing but make it weigh less, no downside, carry one with you if you got it.

>>17516126
Change it through the config file

IF I GIVE MY PET EQUIPMENT DOSE IT SELECTS THE BEST ITEMS FOR itself automatically ?

>>17522070
yes it dose

>>17521577
Save it for your gene

WHAT THE FUCK I had 3 potions of cure corruptions and they gone. i didnt even died they just gone.

>>17522306
I didn't even died either, anon, but 30 years of my life are just gone.

>>17522306
Fire or Ice damage may have got them.

>>17522321
fuuuck. i was getting blasted by fire hounds all the time. next time im gonna store them in home..

>>17522321
How do you stop that from happening? (besides dropping them somewhere, eg. I carry my happy bed with me everywhere but I don't want zapped out my inventory one day)

>>17522339
>>17522340
Dudes buy fire+iceproof blankets in the general store or try to find em in dungeons, always keep one of each on you. Also get resists against the respective element, if you get your resists high enough it prevents item damage so often that you won't even need the blanket (until enemies show up with spells so strong they overpower your res)

>>17522340
High enough Fire and Cold resists, fireproof items by mixing them with fireproof liquids, carry around Fire and Cold proof blankets (make sure they keep a good amount of charges).

>>17522319
Aniki you are approaching the dad zone, it is all downhill from here

>>17522352
>>17522360
Thanks, >>17522306 made me check if I'd lost anything, and turns out I'd also lost the potions of cure corruption I'd been collecting, fug, lesson learned.

>>17522376
just go gamble, you get more potions of cure corruption than you could ever know what to do with

>>17522070
Usually. I'm not sure how the pets determine what is 'better' but I've handed them items with more DV or more PV then what they have, and sometimes they don't switch it out until I take the old item.

>>17521057
mind sharing the sprite sheet? ;)

>>17522710
I would, but I'm not at home for the time being.
Check back later.