Elona

if i want to marry my pet pudding spirit does that make me a pervert

My legs got cancer while I was asleep and nobody in Palmia sells cure mutation pots, what do?

I've been noticing that my black angel doesn't really shoot anything with her bow/gun when tag teamed up. Is that normal? Do I need to keep ranged/melee pets together?

>unspeakable crab enemies in Elona
>goddamn Brine King in PoE
Someone needs to stop these crabs.

>>17490318
The problem should definitely not be being tagged with a melee, as I pair melee with ranged/magic every time and the ranged ones fire just fine.

>>17490335
We just need to add the Brine King to Elona then. It's the next logical step.

>>17490339
At first it was because I had her using a bolt and a pistol because I'm an idiot.
It might be her gun. I'm going to see what happens when I give her Lulwy's god weapon after I get more favour.

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>>17490315
Go to the casino and play some blackjack.

Are shields just a trap option? Should I take away all my pets' shields and make them all two-hand or dual-wield?

>>17490315
Invest in the magic shop and check back later.

>>17490384
You could also make them martial artists.

>>17490384
shields are great for ranged/mage pets

What are some good ways to increase pet survivability?
I'm around the level 20-30 range right now and every so often something will just liquefy my pets in 2-3 hits, while barely hurting me.

Also the 'Squeeze' move seems kind of like a bitch, when enemies use it.

>>17490413
Give them resistance armor.
Upgrade their armor at blacksmiths.

>>17490413
-Enchant all of their gear to the max
-Frequently use the informer to check their resists and collect equipment to fill in the gaps
-Catch or breed high Lv monsters and use them with the gene machine to give your pets levels

>>17490413
Depends on how they're being liquified. Spells, or melee, or what?

>>17490424
They're getting pretty decent resistance-wise, though I should definitely throw some upgrades on their armor.
I find my goose tends to explode a lot. Pity, cause I like her cheer.

>>17490216
whoa. its seems that its really a huge loss when your party doesnt include megid flame pet. i wonder how high meteor damage will be at lower void with the same stacked bonuses. Do you use charge with alchemical rain? Althrough with uncontroll speed oil wont expire while you charge up meteor, i guess.

>>17490429
Sometimes it's hard to tell specifically, but a lot of the time it's melee. A titan oneshot one of them despite barely love-tapping me.
Though an unlucky breath-spamming target when my pets lack their resistance is always awful.
>>17490428
Recently been doing the gene modding thing to help out with that, the bonus stats are lovely too.

>>17490428
>>17490451
you ruin low ini of your pets this way. you could reset it later anyway if needed, so who cares

>>17490466
Gene machine doesn't affect INI.

>>17490451
If your pets are ranged/magic, you could use custom AI to make them prioritize keeping away over attacking.
In general, best idea is probably >>17490424

>>17490471
I've seen mentions of the opposite effect on several occasions: when you transfer high level chara gene to low level, attribute ini is modified..

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Seek help. The guard can read this.

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>>17490466
>>17490500
Proof that this guy is pulling this from his ass.

>>17490560
Thats great, then. Thank you.

>>17490560
>cute fairy
>Male
Hmm.

How does riding work with AP gain? I'm trying to feed my young lady some AP by having her ride me. I have high speed but low speed INI, she has low speed and INI. But she doesn't seem to be gaining AP nearly as fast as I'd expect. Wiki says riding uses the higher of the two speed INIs, is that correct? As opposed to using my speed value as her INI.

Or am I just vastly underestimating speed of monsters in low Void / mid Rehmido?

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I shudder at the thought of the day I have to fight two Karata Manekis at the same time in an awakened dungeon. Difficulty just grows exponentially with more crabs. Doubt omega shift core will last long enough to bring them both down so when I get the 2 down to where they begin to super regenerate I'll have to resort to mana burst and pray that finishes them off. If three show up at the same time and I can't reach the stairs I'm just noping right out of there to live another day. Use my escape scroll and just tell my superiors that the awakened dungeon is lost. Since the Karata Maneki is like a very strong door for an infinite stream of enemies to come through, I doubt I can sustain the silence hexes and damage to keep all 3+ of these "doors" shut.

Thank god I got a statue of the Karata Maneki. I don't actively want to seek one out. Only missing the Element Maneki statue. I once encountered two of them on the same floor in an awakened dungeon. It's a weird feeling being on the receiving end of an enemy that loves casting meteor. My pets certainly didn't like the Element Maneki's meteors. This time I'll bring a bio printer for sure to get a statue of one.

>>17490450
Well unbuffed meteor at cap will probably hit for around 2 million damage against the strongest void enemies and MA around 5 million. Buffs and debuffs will probably increase both meteor and MA damage. Wet and oil status last a decent amount of time from what I've seen. Since I don't have a megid flame pet I'll leave that to another player to showcase the damage they can get. I'll vouch for spell casting, MA, and two hand's effectiveness in the void. All three do well in killing things in the void and awakened dungeons from what I've seen with my character.

>>17490614
The AP section of the wiki mentions how to get AP and mentions a bit how riding works with it. The early floors of the void are like low level dungeons but as you go deeper the difficulty grows. So if you're not getting AP from the void it usually means you just have to go deeper to fight harder monsters.

>>17490758
>The AP section of the wiki mentions how to get AP and mentions a bit how riding works with it. The early floors of the void are like low level dungeons but as you go deeper the difficulty grows. So if you're not getting AP from the void it usually means you just have to go deeper to fight harder monsters.
Yes, I've read it. I'm getting dings. They just all appear to be for exactly 1 AP, considering the amount she has at this point.

>>17490796
Yeah from what I've seen for myself and heard from other players riding and for that matter tagging slows down AP gains. You might be able to start getting those 2+ blue AP gains if you go deep enough but that can be dangerous. The ideal way to get AP is to have your pet kill things on their own without tagging or from the sounds of it riding. Only problem is said pet might be too weak and need the assistance of you tagging it or having it ride you. So in exchange for the added security you might just have to get used to slower AP gains. I know when I began training my pets the initial AP gains were always the slowest due to tagging but eventually, through speed upgrades and AP to bonus points, my pets became strong enough where they were able to kill things on their own and their AP gathering really took off at that point.

>>17490839
She's not close to be able to kill stuff on her own. Riding lets her do it, but I think it is slowing down the gains. But the wiki doesn't say it does anything special.

Tagging does explicitly lower the AP gain. But there's no mention of that for riding on the wiki, only the shared INI. Except I'm wondering if it isn't actually using INI and is just using my speed value. That would certainly slow down gains too. But if it's just INI, she should gain AP just as fast on foot as on me.

Where do you guys get your sprite replacements for say, custom pets or whatever? Just the handful in the mods pastebin?

>>17490971
ElonaUploader.

http://www.elonaup.x0.com/sozai/index.htm?1502911571

Though it's not sorted or searchable so it's a real pain in the ass. I went through all the pages at some point and now periodically go back to check it for interesting new submissions.

does dual wield fall off in endgame if you're not playing as a mutant, or does it hold up to other weapon styles for regular humanoids as well?

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>>17490971
I'm still using the Chinese Anon Pack which should be in the mod pastebin. Whoever the creator of that pack is pretty much pulled sprites from the elona uploader and pixiv which are also both great places to track down sprites as well. Even though a bunch of those packs in the mod pastebin are marked with outdated a bunch of their content is still useable or can be useable with some editing. Treat the outdated thing as a warning that the packs were made available under a certain version of the game and may or may not still work with other versions.

>>17491184
If endgame for you is completing the story and not really trying to kill gods, get far in the void, or do high level awakened dungeons then a default 13 slot humanoid dual wielder shouldn't have any problems. It's just against scaled stuff and really hard stuff that you may feel like your damage is a bit lacking compared to other forms that may be a bit easier to develop form the sounds of what people are saying last thread.

Considering that dual wield really needs to hit a lot and hit often to do a lot of damage dual wield really does sound like that's the domain of mutants or multi handed characters. For regular default 13 slot characters, Magic, MA, two hand, magic device, range(firearms,bows, etc) are all things they can still excel at.

If you're already a dual wielder and are having doubts it's not really too hard to transition to something like two hand since as a dual wielder you probably are using the core of almost all melee builds. Tactics, some sort of weapon skill, and Eye of Mind. My main specialty with my character is MA and I was a bit surprised at how easy it was to just start kicking ass in the void with two handing. I had tactics and eye of mind already high so all I had to do was tack on a weapon skill, two hand, and get a decent spear. The spear I'm still using even down in like lv 3,500 of the void is a spear you can craft in act 1 if you really wanted to. Pretty much used carpentry to craft spears until I got a living spear and used all 10 levels to add magic damage to it. Ran a repair kit and an adamantium material kit to get its damage dice where it is.

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I got myself a Nurse because her healing abilities should help me a great deal but I don't understand how to set up the custom AI, I always get some error message that she can't respond to the command.
Could someone should me an example of how the setup should look like?

well first, post the AI you're using right now

also note that you get more AI slots the higher the pet's learning stat is (or the player's, whichever is lower). so custom AIs are pretty bad early on for spellcaster pets, when you only have 3 or 4 slots.

>>17491460
Self HP < 50%: Healing Rain, Preserve Entity As Target
Player HP < 50%: And
Player Distance > 3: Move (Forward), Preserve Entity As Target
Player HP < 50%: Healing Rain, Preserve Entity As Target
Self Status = Brainwash: Move (Away)
Target Distance = 1: Attack (Melee)
Target Distance < 6: Attack (Ranged)
Target Distance > 1: Move (Forward)

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>>17491408
I actually just finished getting my own living adamantium spear ready earlier today. I'd been planning to make it since your post comparing the damage of Two Hand and Martial Arts.

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Thanks, salary box

Should I turn an electric cloud or a chaos cloud into a Chaos Stormcloud Dragon?
Would they retain either the lightning spell/breath or the chaos ball spell?

>>17492048

they retain lighting/chaso res+spells

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Man, I should really import the old katana I used pre-living-weapons changes. I missed that invoke.

>>17491932
she'll die from mana exhaustion after first battle with this shit. always add mp<10% on top of the spellcast triggers. like self mp<10% move forward
and then mp<10% AND enemy diistance =1 attack melee
then healing spells
then player distance=>1 move forvard(keep target) or something.

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nothing like entire spritesheets filled with copyrighted characters

Did people get upset over that video linking to /jp/?

>>17492741
What?

>>17492762
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9gOQxHX83E

Does anyone know how many hands are optimal on a mutant?
I got one at level 2 at the doc's place, but slot mutations are one of the things you can't ever change again in Elona, so I just overwhelmed by the responsibility and so I just gave up. But I do kind of wanna try it again if anyone can help.

>>17492775
Oh well, I don't really care anymore.

>>17492776
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yL2adwGvpzcP-pmz0iPVkzXcb6IiOHVzwnEZnlS0eMg/edit?usp=sharing


last sheet for mutant. Its a little complicated, but it roughly shows average attacks per round relative to number of hands.

>>17492775
The thread it linked to is actually still in the natural archive you can see for yourself.

>>17492776
>>17492809
Gotta copy it and use your own values for dw skill level and total extra attack bonus enchantment from all equipment pieces.

>>17492809
So do 9+ hands only get one extra attack, regardless of the extra attack score? Well, 12 hands is good enough, leaves me with plenty of other slots to to use for precious artifacts.

>>17492891
yeah, you go either 5 or as much as you can get. if you dont savescum, 12 is the highest number i consider safe. i need at least one guaranteed back, neck and ring slot too.

Also, from what i understood, DW really benefits from multiple proximity assist weapon pieces.

>>17492775
I liked it actually

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Instruments

Is Grand Piano really better at performance than Stradivarius? Where are those performance qualities obtained from on that wiki page? Game source code?

Yes, I know that ensemble is the best option.

>>17493211
you get better drop quality with stradivarius, similar to ensemble

you get better satisfaction with piano

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somehow it amuses my when item type+material+name fits so well

>>17492891
You need something like 1,5k ench value on each item to get decent chance of extra attacks for 7+ hands. Penalty is pretty harsh.

Is there any reason I can't rename my ammo?

out of the melee classes which one has the best feat for MA?

>>17494120
thief and warmage are the only two classes that exist

>>17494135
>>17494120
actually claymore is a good alternative to thief MA, depends on playstyle
warrior is only useful for DW

Wait, do you lose favor/piety over time now?

>>17494534
Yeah, it seems like that. I just hope its not a %% loss, grinding favor with 2k faith wont be fun.

>>17494120
Kai which is the strongest MA character in these threads has his class as a Predator. Predator comes with bonus speed and 10% increase chance to crit in any situation. Crits are very important for damage. Thief gets a nice crit chance on enemies it ambushes but enemies later in the game might be very perceptive due to their stats and skills. Warrior is good to help start additional attacks according to the additional attack formula on the wiki. Warmage is good if you want to cast spells and punch things. Warmage helps you succeed in casting spells by 5%.

>>17494663
Warrior helps only with the first extra attack, means for the lategame its pretty much a useless bonusfor all characters with 2 hands.

>>17494670
Even if it's just helping me get at least 2 additional attacks I would be happy. It's not like you're always guaranteed to strike 3,6, or even 8 attacks with good stacking of additional attack chance.

>>17494679
For properly built char you'll get like 0,5% boost to damage with this unless character uses DW with more than 2 hands.

You may as well take pianist or tourist.

>>17494708
That's not true. Having greater ease of attaining a second attack is definitely more than a .5 increase to damage.

>>17494726
Compared to the bonuses you'll have for extra attacks, it is very very small. The formulas were posted about 5 or 6 threads back. Consider it this way:

Game calculates extra attacks based on first having a first extra attack (does this calc and checks if you're a gunner or ranger, adds a flat 5 if so to the RHS of the inequality), then a separate section that makes sure ranged doesn't get over 2 extra attacks, but it's weighted twice in that way, so yes, having a bonus to your first extra attacks also helps get to the calculation "if" for the rest of them, but doesn't help with the second calc (just read the code here. weighted random # comparisons).

But, most importantly, I think you'll find by entering your enchant level and using a different class bonus (say, predator for 10% critical, or thief and assuming you'll catch the enemy flatfooted 10% of the time), and comparing it to the enchant level calc including the initial check with warrior class set, you'll get higher dps with the crit rate. But that's just my guess. Try it yourself!

Is any one race better at the others for sluttin' it up?

>>17494792
slime

>>17494534
You lose Favor when you Pray.

Make a trap fairy
>Gay Surprise

Life is good

is chat working? i just did the fix and either i did something wrong or nobody is talking

>>17495280
It's pretty dead most of the time from what I can tell. You should be able to see the log of recent chat to make sure it's working though.

>>17491979
Looking good so far. Aside from leveling it for more magic damage the only thing to decide is whether you want to increase the weight of the spear. Pro of increasing weight of the spear is that crit damage along will increase and in turn magic damage will increase as well. Con is that the heavier you make your spear chances are you may enter the heavy weight bracket and casting spell success goes down.

I ended up with my spear being 420s in the end. I'm an absolute madman for tolerating 80% cast success for spells but I've oddly gotten used to it. Can always quickly unequip the weapon if I must nail that heal spell or just use prayer of Jure.

>>17495627
>crit damage along will increase
*crit damage will increase

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I don't think I've ever found a better ring for a gunner.

>>17495851
holy fuck what a ring

So uh, why is spear the meta?

>>17496047
probably something to do with piercing, I have no idea though

>>17496047
Wasn't aware it was. Although I do like my living spear. Does good damage and easy to get since you can craft one. I'm sure others have their own weapon preferences and have weapons that work great for them.

>>17496047
It's a twohanded weapon you can craft. Load up on materials and you can churn out a couple hundred of them on a Lucky Day; one or two will probably be living weapons.

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Man these things are obnoxious. I wonder if they make good pets.

>>17491408
>>17491979
So how much damage are we talking about with these spears. How good can they become? Also is magic damage really that good to stack it?

>>17496493
magic damage x 2,5 when max is indeed nice.
IF I remember correctly.

what does one # equate to percentage wise?

>>17496544
It's about yea big *gestures*

>>17496544
means different things for different properties, surely

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>>17496561
>>17496576

>>17496561
It's smaller than that actually.

>>17496583
# : a little
## : some
### : much
#### : many
##### : woah boy
#####+ : thats a biggun
#####+ : fantastic
#####+ : impossible
#####+ : tarnation

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>>17496493
I currently have 1,553 polearm, 1,308 two hand, and, cap tactics and using the spear you linked. If I manage to crit all 4 of my attacks I probably would do around 2.4 million damage currently. That's already as good as what an unbuffed meteor can do down here and meteor does good damage. I still have a bit of room to grow my damage since I still have to cap two hand and pole arm. Only buff I have on it seems is my pet's cheer. Probably could amp the damage by putting on more buffs as well.

I've highlighted the damage I did to kill an enemy deep in the void. In blue is the magic damage from the spear. The number before it is the damage from the spear. Generally, the higher the initial stab damage, the higher magic damage numbers I get. Definitely good numbers from crits.

I like the damage I'm doing so far with this spear. The magic damage I consider all purpose. I probably could milk more damage from creating a living spear,stacking ice damage, using element scar, and wet. That would require more setup while magic damage lets me be a bit lazy. Of course you could always just carry around multiple spears of different elements if you wish.

>Expecting there to be an Leona thread on /vg/
>not going to /weeb/ for a /weeb/-game

I swear I'm smart though

>>17496619
Smart but not clever badge needed?
I may have one extra around.

>>17496624
>>17496619
Just roll for it with a mutation potion.

>>17496377
I had four of them. They're like bells on crack that rape things to death by staring at them. They also dance a lot and for whatever reason, dancers in the wild have great resists and speed, but as pets those both get reduced. Form an army of them and cockatrices and everything around you dies until they get bled, poisoned, or get hit with a bpmb.

my elona is in moonrunes
how do i english

>>17496783
learn moonrunes

>>17496544
They're too vague to matter, but you can see the actual number with the Objet of Heart. For living weapon enchantments it's +200 per level (for Magic at least, I haven't seen any others). Living weapons begin at Lv1 and start drinking your blood past L10, so you get 9 "+Magic Damage" enchantments for 1800.

>>17496797
Why would you be a smart ass nd not add the way to fix it afterward?
>>17496783
Either go to option and change the language, or open the config file directly.

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So I heard you guys were proficient in HSP? I don't play Elona, but I'm translating this game made in HSP and I don't know any other place that's familiar with HSP but also speaks English.

I'm trying to debug this code, but it keeps throwing up errors about "Incorrect Parameters" when it comes to code that references "sd@varutil". Would anyone know what this means, and how to fix it?

>>17496812
While we're tangentially on this topic, how bad is the blood drinking on living weapons?

>>17496831
Great for passively training healing and therefore con.

Maybe a bit risky when you're out dungeon crawling.

>>17496831
Does it definitely show up at a certain point?
Is it fine to just level up to living weapon 10 and leave it at that for example and not have to worry about the blood drain?

>>17496820
idk,doesn't dupptr take 4 arguments? You ought to email bloodyshade and see if he'll help

>>17496853
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Living_weapon
Look for the section "1.43 and Later".

>>17496863
How do I contact bloodyshade? I can only find stuff about him on the Elona wikia.

>>17496863
According to:
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://lhsp.s206.xrea.com/manual/i_mem.html
the fourth argument is optional and defaults to "4 (integer type)" if it's omitted.
(I'm not familiar with HSP myself.)

>>17496962
Not sure, but this might work:
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Message_Wall:Bloodyshade

>>17496962
Hm, you could drop him a line here
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Message_Wall:Bloodyshade
Oh >>17496980 you're way ahread of me. Basically, here's how most of us are acquainted with HSP:
1) Someone asks a game mechanics question
2) Arguments ensue
3) Anon posts code snippets while complaining about how hard it is to read, as most of it comes from a decompiled original version
4) More screeching
5* [optional] ) BloodyShade (I think this is the only modder who ever posts here) arrives and drops mad clarity bombs on everyone

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some random adventurer passing by had these

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>>17497123
>they match

>>17496995
Cmon anon we're not that bad. It could be worse. We could be /vg/

>>17496544
# is 50 enchantment points. gl checking code for translating ench values to % damage ( i swear that chunk of code is bigger than shena's ass, and you need to start with the understanding of how damage is actually calculated and which one of the 5 related variables actually substracts the hp of the already dead putit, then how is it related to variable thats actually used to calculate elemental enchantment damage and make a simple formula for us to read.

I've got a Kyuso rat as a pet, and it uses Space retention special action.
All i see is that it applies retention buff only to itself, while wiki says it affects all. Can anyone clarify this skill mechanics?

>>17493365
Source?

>>17498363
source.hsp

Welp it seems Cut element attacks has only a certain chance to apply +1 bleed, making them effectively useless as a source of bleed status unless used en-masse
(Imagine nightmare of a bunch of vorpal rabbits dismembering the victim alive and then finishing it with decapitation. Monty Python approves).

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>living godly lightsabre
>it brings an end
>darkness res ##

Ehekatl is trolling me again

>>17497681
# is not 50 enchantment points. That's only the case for resistances, and there it means each # is between 1 and 50 strength. However, yes, having skimmed through the dmghp lines I agree with your assessment of the code being hard to read (see >>17496995)

>>17498916
Conclusion: hacking the decompiled code is hard without experience in that field.

I've tried to make bleeding less obscure and only understood that part responsible on-hit effects is probably the most confusing among this whole mess.

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>>17498609
dafuq

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>>17499257

>>17496701
They have innate magic resistance, but their elemental resistances are a bit flag instead of actual statistical resistances. So that's why it says 'none' when you examine them.

>>17499258
You'll be fine

>>17499329
Yeah poison veins instakilled them all, thats not an issue here.
Extra attacks during 'Let's Ragnarock' proc seem to always proc additional ragnarocks.

how much i need to invest in magic shop ( i assueme the one that sells potions and have one npc in it) to get potion of cure mutation ?

>>17499425
zero
its a common potion

>>17499435
HUH ? never saw it.

>>17499443
You may have better chance of getting it from dungeon floor.
It may be not as common as hero/concentration potion, but you still will see it from time to time on vendors without investment.

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>>17499443
First magic vendor i didnt invest in had it.

there are no feats that improve charisma ? how do i get more charisma ?

>>17499588
Eat engagement rings, play music constantly, eat other foods that train CHA.

It's an easy stat to train, you can train carpentry alongside it since inferior material scrolls are cheap and easy to craft.

>>17499588
eat putitoro and 'invest 50' on several shops will max out your charisma depending on potential, wear engagement rings.

>>17499604
inferior material scrolls are made with 'gem cutter' and train Jewelling, not Carpentry.
Also, its quite expensive to turn item into raw unless its mica<silk<cloth<paper<bone, mica requires 1 scroll to turn into raw, while bone needs 5

>>17499626
My bad, haven't played in a while and those always confused me. I don't know why they'd call it jewelling since it rarely involves jewels unless its pot for fusion. Should just call it runecrafting or inscribing or whatever.

That's how I train it anyways, gets two things done eventually, though a bit slower than other methods of course.

>>17499643
i use all inferior mat scrolls on boots to train speed for me and my pets. Only luck and speed are hard enough to train to justify this(for me).
Also they are useful to downgrade some chain/metal item material so that 'change material' scroll will change it directly to zylon to increase sell price in shop.

>>17499699
not boots, shoes to be exact

>>17490261
May be useful, game doesn't like when you spam actions that trigger autosave too fast, often crashing due to this. It happend to me on ramdrive at least.

>>17499754
I've read several hundred wonder scroll stacks by holding down Enter to no ill effect.

>>17499761
Who knows what triggers it, but game crashes only due to me for this. Last time it crashed after a hundred of treasure balls being opened at high speed (something like half a second inbetween?)

It may be an issue related to ramdrive/fast SSDs, who knows. I know that it happend more than once at only when i spammed save-triggers.

>>17499772
>after a hundred of treasure balls being opened at high speed
Maybe it had to do with the saving in conjunction with excessive loot piling on a single tile.
I remember Wizard's Harvest got change to add the money to just one stack because of something like this.

>>17499786
I've had several crashes with gain material scrolls too, so not sure about that. But it happens really rarely, like once per 1k savegame triggers, so i cant tell what causes it exactly.
Win7 x64 btw.

>>17499801
Huh, it may be a machine thing then after all.
I personally have never had Elona crash in recent memory.

Is there any benefit to running Elona on my SSD?
I just realized my laptop has one, and I still haven't used it for anything in the two years I've had this laptop. And I don't play anything besides Elona on it anyway.

>>17499806
Oh, i totally forgot that Elona Extender got savegame backup function, and 99,9% that its the reason. Probably happens when game tries to save while backup is still not finished yet.

So, yep.
>>17499754
Happens only with Elona Extender mod due to savegame backup being enabled.

>>17499827
Nothing in this game takes that long to load, but the frequent saving from the game may be less than ideal for your SSD.

>>17499827
Well it loads sprites on the go, apparently. Game was running really slow on flashdrive due to this(hickups when i was moving fast when it tried to read sprites one by one from flashdrive instead of copying image to memory first and using it here.
On the other hand, OS\HDD should cash all that shit properly so i dont think it matters much.

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holy crap panties are so cheap to craft by the hundred. They seem like great shop fodder.

I actually managed to get 5 different living panties

Not that I any idea what the fuck to do with the living ones.

>>17500164
level crafting skills on them

>>17500168
This is how I made my fortune. I also have far too many living pantsu, you can just pick the best to make into resist sticks and have one or two dedicated pantythrower pets to confuse enemies/level the panties.

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Too bad its not a pantsu

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>>17500168

how many of you guys actually play with the music on? assuming that you haven't modded the music in anyway

>>17500596
I do, but I also carry around a music disc to shut off some of the more annoying tracks.
Namely every panic quest ever.

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Any tips for playing as a fairy with a majokko pet?

>>17500602
Oh alright, I'm still new to this game so I always like to listen to the ost but some of the songs sound awful. like they were made in 10 minutes or something. especially when I first arrived at Derphy. I'm having fun regardless though.

>>17500633
with what?

>>17500596
desu after about a month all the sounds started killing me. They're so sharp and grating even the soundtracks made my eaws huwt.

>>17500633
anyway, there is only one tip - get a life
ruby gear and ascetic feats that is.

It is a bit counterintuitive, but its really hard to train magic capacity with fairy, be careful. Other than that there is nothing notable about it. flying scrolls are your best friends.

>>17500681
Those tracks are just random free tracks from public domain. I only ended up liking deliberate thought out of all vanilla midi/mp3

>>17500729
I also meant pretty much all the sound effects

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If I use a flying scroll to reduce the weight of a happy bed or food processor, will it make the tool less effective?

>>17500729
>>17500755
>>17500681
You guys can try the Music Mod packs in mod pastebin (section 0008), or put in your on BGM. It's pretty easy actually.
https://pastebin.com/HcTtYVsn

I'm currently using the Etrian Odyssey one and it's great. But there are several others I haven't tried.

>>17500791
The only problem is that there's no ingame adjustment options. So sometimes the music can end up playing much louder than the ingame soun effects.

I guess you'd have to edit the song files with Audacity or something.

>>17500755
Yeah, tho too. Elona got some good sfx, but only some. Most flashgames(including Noa's own shooter) has much more consistent sfx.

Yet without sfx on i always starve to death. Its too time-consuming to make a sfx mod for Elona, so gotta live with those traps/big daddies and a bunch of other non-normalized sfx.
.

>>17500791
don't waste flying scrolls, use inferior material scroll. neither will make tool less effective.

>>17500791
I've used ghibli pack, and elona extender got even more options for that, but modding your own game is always a chore - if you lack free time you'll end up modding 90% of the time instead of playing.
>>17500791
nothing affects efficiency of tools in elona. better turn them into paper material ones first btw.

If I kill a guild leader can I still get the skills from that trainer?

>>17500887
That's one of the more common methods to get guild-only skills without joining. The guild leader is the only one who stays hostile if you break into a guild you don't belong to and use a disguise kit.

>>17500894
Sweet, fuck not paying my taxes

>>17500794
This is my issue. I love the Etrian Odyssey pack but it overpowers all sounds in the game.

>>17500902
>>17500791
I can't seem to get it working. You're just supposed to copy everything into user/music, right? Overwriting musiclist?

What are the must have mods? i dont know which ones to use

>>17500933
Elona+ and Custom are the only must have.

>>17500791
Just installed the etrian odyssey one, Vernis sound amazing

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Are these notifications actual people playing or just npcs?

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>gay pride

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>>17501091

>>17501084
Those are NPCs.

>>17501084
Those are npc adventurers.
If you run into Nameless Virgin in town and offer to trade with her, you'll even see that artifact in her inventory.

does walking on the road on the map affect your encounter rate?

>>17500933
>>17500977
Elona Extender is a must have too.

>>17501475
Does it work with the most recent Elona+ version? I skipped it because pastebin says it is outdated.
My gdata.s1 got corrupted recently and I want to find more reasons to kill myself to death.

>>17501510
It works with everything, it hook into elona to launch it and add some features like easier screenshot, save backup (VERY important) and item search & highlight in lists (not less important).
Use it, you'll thank yourself.

My Defender waifu's C-AI is currently set to keep Holy Shield up in battle. I've been considering adding Regenerate, but I'm not sure it'd be worth it. The E+ stamina regeneration effect of Regenerate doesn't work with C-Energy, right?

>>17501577
Correct.

>>17501547
Just tested it, backup works so far, thank you.
I was able to recover enough to start a gene character, but I don't want to revisit this nightmare ever again.

>>17501547
I'll probably use this, but i'm disappointed that the 'equipment set' functionality doesn't seem to work properly in E+C.

How much does +skills affect gardening? I know it never helps getting wish rods, but I'm talking about +enhance values on crops/unknown seeds, and wither chance.

Reason being, I've got something like 160 Gardening but I always swap all my gear to equipment with at least ## Gardening, even while planting/harvesting in the rain. Is this a waste of time y/n?

>>17501641
planting in the rain only matters for wither/regrow chance, which you are already far past caring about
even planting artifact seeds on non-farm tiles without rain only needs 121 gardening

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:26103
New news in the next version partial changelog:
-Every type of ammo will have its own gauge attack.
-Traps set by the player are now visible.
-Reduced the effect of materials and equipment attributes on equipment prices.
-Replaced 6 items craftable from materials with 6 new ones. These intermediate products can then be used to make a piece of miracle-quality equipment of your choice in item fusion, or to change the piece of equipment into another type in its category (like helm to knight helm).

I'm interested in seeing the difference between the gauge attacks of bullets and magnums. (I didn't even know the latter existed before today when I tripped over some magnums in the Void.)
Also, I wonder if those 6 replaced items include spears, panties, and lightsabres? Would that end up making living weapon acquisition harder, or easier (since you can guarantee miracle-quality items)?

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>>17501669
>-Reduced the effect of materials and equipment attributes on equipment prices.
>-Replaced 6 items craftable from materials
I expect the worst.

>>17501676
rip blacksmith store?

>>17501688
>haha oh wait, I forgot I left one shop type still worth using
t. Ano

>>17501676
How the fuck are you actually intended to make money

>>17501669
>Each ammo type will now have their own gauge attack

Okay fuck making money I take it back. I wanted this exact thing about a week ago.

>>17501706
>>17501708
to be fair money not being any issue at all is sort of a problem
I can sit back and make multiple millions just crawling a couple of dungeons that are near my shop and then just piss the money away on anything I want.

>>17501721
Yeah but 1 scroll of growth is 3.5m, I thought that's why important items were expensive

>>17501729
items like that definitely could do with a reduction in prize
why the fuck do gifts cost so much money for one
kits I can understand but potions of potential being hundreds of thousands is retarded because nobody buys them at the souvenir shop when they can get them in magic vendors

>>17501801
I feel like those prices are gp sinks as a direct consequence of how much cash you could generate in early elona. If you now have to do 20 fever dungeons for materials and equipment combined, just for a scroll of growth, that sucks real bad.
But hey, look at the gauge releases we get

>>17501823
speaking of releases
what do you guys do for your shift cores?
I just edited my character's colours in gimp

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Trying to figure out what I'm doing wrong with this. Took a naga/lamia pcc and removed the top bra by blending it with a standard background, merged layers, saved as 24 bit with no color space data as a bmp. In the game it just crashes. Both base files work.

>>17501860
copy into mspaint
save from mspaint
works for me

>>17501860
That doesn't look like the cyan blue those pcc backgrounds actually use.

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>>17501860
there are green artifacts hidden around the breasts and a purple dot on the north facing sprites under the arms by the way

Came across a blessed scroll of ally, I'm only level 7 should I save it for later?

>>17501881
For some reason that one came in with a green background that worked in game with the bra. My first attempt had the blue background, where I made both the blue. I'll try again from start and do the mspaint the anon suggested tomorrow.
Thanks.

I lost a load of charisma apparently, is there anything that can do that?

>>17502171
sickness? (if so drink a restore spirit)
dying in quests? (if so, stop dying)

>>17502176
Neither, super weird I'm only noticing now that I want to buy slaves. Wonder when it happened

>>17480622
>>17480578
where to get qt portraits?

>>17502188
google images? pixiv? booru?

>>17502171
Did you change gods or lose your potion buff?

>>17502208
Also nope, nothing in my mutations list either unless cannibalism has an effect

>>17500168
>Human genes
Panties in Elona are made of some strange stuff... no wonder our own female adventurers can't take their bra or panties off - its part of their genetic make up!

>>17502274
well without the essential human element those panties would just be a piece of cloth and wouldn't be able to inflict mind damage after all

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>>17501669
>Reduced the effect of materials and equipment attributes on equipment prices.

I can kinda understand why this had to happen. If I crafted a reasonably decent panty of good material I could easily sell that panty in my shop for 1 million gold and that's just one panty. I'm currently making a ridiculous amount of gold which has allowed me to buy a ridiculous amount of growth scrolls. I'm able to keep all my skills at good potential with scrolls alone and was able to just use all that plat for magic training. I remember how those scrolls used to be such luxury items where you would use small medals to buy them after you capped speed.

Well that was a good run while it lasted but I'll make do like I always have. As long as the reduction isn't crippling sheer volume of sales will allow me to rebound.

>Replaced 6 items craftable from materials with 6 new ones. These intermediate products can then be used to make a piece of miracle-quality equipment of your choice in item fusion, or to change the piece of equipment into another type in its category (like helm to knight helm).

Really? A piece of miracle-quality equipment of my choice? Well if it's my choice please give me a list of miracle grade items I can choose from that opens up more options of what I can craft. Please make this so Ehekatl! I would love to finally be able to make at least miracle grade bows and guns.

Definitely up in the air whether this makes crafting living weapons harder or not. Really depends on what the material requirements and options look like for crafting after this update.

>>17501834
I just have a blue aura for my character to signal that I've transformed and when the buff runs out. Was easy to add a blue outline around my sprite.

>>17501801
Gifts can be bought from common vendors, you can craft alternative, and growth scroll is more of vanity item when you have so much gold you dont know where to dump it. Skill growth has been boosted several times in Plus, if you didnt know.

Blacksmith store generates retarded amount of gold even after previous nerf, you'll swim in millions just from daily crafted crap. If you craft some panties and turn them into zylon or other mid-grade mat, you'll swim in hundreds of milions.

It pretty much destroys the whole game economy, making every other type of revenue gain effectively worthless.

I like that Ano knows what he is doing, instead of nerfing shoptype, he is fixing base pice, so you wont have to spend several mils to buy stuff from black market at the same time. You wont get #1 home just by turning several happy beds into dragonscale with this, tho.

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>>17501881
>>17502084
It doesn't matter what color you use as long as it is solid. I've made a number of PCCs with different color backgrounds and they all work. You might have fucked up by blending, normally to remove something I'd actually manually draw over it/use color selection (ctrl+O) or fuzzy selection tool.

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>>17502188
>>17502195
Usually you make your own. This is also good.
http://scrapiuna.blogspot.nl/2013/11/blog-post.html
And of course all the pastebin packs, which gathered together a lot from pixiv and uploader.

Making portraits really couldn't be easier. Just crop a pic and save as bmp. I use puush's capture area option (ctrl+shift+4) and have it set to automatically save the image to a folder. It's like area selection of an image editing program. So when I see a nice picture, I snap a portrait of the face in roughly the dimensions of Elona portraits. No need to save the image first or whatever. Then all that's left is scaling it down and cropping it a bit to fit 80x112, then saving as bmp. Pic related is latest batch.

Just found out Tag Teams were a thing but I can't figure out how to Tag myself with a pet.
I don't show up in the list, am I just supposed to tag the pet with the pet I'm riding and then ride the tagged pets?

>>17503151
(i)nteract with self (5)

>>17503151
i to interact, then target yourself (5).
Note that while you're tagged, your walking animation is disabled, which is pretty odd feeling. Enough so that I never bother with it.

Too few portraits actually suitable for the game artstyle.
Those full throttle weeb portrait packs ther modrn anime/eroge artstyle make my eyes bleed.

>>17503197
make your own instead of whining then

>>17503176
okay that is really fucking weird, oh well
thanks anyway

>>17503204
There is literally no suitable source art to take portraits from. Some late 80-mid 90s style artbooks maybe, but those are really hard to find.

Instead of telling other anons what to do make some research on that matter first.

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>>17503227
That's complete horseshit. You are just human garbage that expects other people to do the work for them

>>17503244
Are you a retard, per chance? I complained about lack of portraits drawn in elona style and even lack of pictures with suitable artstyle to take it from, i'm not supposed to fucking draw them myself, you need several years of pratice and minimal amount of artistic talent to do that.

The part where those usual portrait sheets made by otakus/weebs make my eyes bleed is completely separate and irrelevant on that matter.

>>17503350
Nobody said you should draw them yourself fedoraman. Work in this context implies actually putting in the effort to find something. Your faulty reasoning ''I can't find something=>it must not exist'' and then crying about it is because you act like a little bitch.

>made by otakus and weebs
Do you even know where you are?

>>17503365
>Do you even know where you are?
Idgaf whether Elona thread is on /weeb, /vg or /b.

Monster girl, kantai, tohou, fotm current ongoing characters are omnipresent and thats the definition of otaku culture content. Putting those out of place subculture elements in game and calling it modding disgusts me, deal with it.

As for the efforts, you simply have no idea what you are talking about. Its a severely outdated style that is very scarce on pixiv, more sutable western art pieces look usually much worse than original since it drawn using slightly different ruleset.

The only good artbook i've had with relevant artstyle was downloaded by me from fucking share , and it still lacks suitable characters.

There were several suitable sprite/portraitsheets and separate characters for older vanilla and omake Elona, though.

>>17503468
So use the ones you found? I don't get what you acting like you are is going to get accomplished. If none of the art you find is good enough for you or doesn't fit the way you want it to then just stick with the original ones.

>>17503468
There are a lot of old games that use this artstyle and they have sprite dumps/art books which include portraits. You act like you know it all but you just haven't looked. Also the fuck is with that reddit spacing

>>17503468
your gay

>>17503519
I thought its a good place to cry about futility of efforts to find a good variety of vanilla-style art for Elona, especially for pet's full body portraits aside from obligatory god pets/rorans. There is also some hope that random altruistic anon would point at some artist/game title with similar fanart instead of eating a trollbait.

I still havent found any suitable ones for half of my party. A pity.

>>17503554
Yes this is a good place to cry. Youre doing great sweetie this is a safe space xoxo

>>17503528
WTF is reddit spacing? You like to read solid walls of text or something? Never used redddit so no idea what it actually means.

>>17503528
Super nintendo/PS1 generation of games, you mean? I actually found a couple of good characters among those. Too bad i only used PC back then so i'm largely ignorant about good titles.

>>17503581
>Too bad i only used PC back then so i'm largely ignorant about good titles.
So then why not ask about it instead of blogging like a teenage girl and having others drag these revelations out of you? You give up when you don't find what you're looking for and then complain but don't ask for anything specific or provide pics of what you did find. How should others know what is ''suitable'' to you?

>>17503554
Well, the biggest problem is that we don't know what exactly you find suitable, we are not mind readers. We can give you some stuff that is like it but not close enough and get shot down, that is why the best action for you is to keep trying to find what you want (or post something that is similar to what you are looking for)

>>17503598
Didnt I say that what I look for is simply the same artstyle as in vanilla? For fullbody portraits it means hard outlines, minimal use of gradient shading and certain way of drawing faces that you could find in vanilla portraits.

Jokes/trolling aside, I'm genuinely sorry, but I really can't post art samples right now, since art dump is on PC in other city and internet is terrible here.
Also, maybe I am actually a (bored) teenage girl deep inside, who knows.

>>17503598
Not him but what titles would you say are good to pull from?

>>17503698
After finally admitting that contrary to his first assessment that there is ''literally no art like it'', he actually didn't know all that many games so wouldn't know where to look, the end to this guy's blog is this lame as fuck cop-out. There is a lesson to be learned here lads

How's this general holding up
I heard you guys were linked to some youtube guys video

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I started playing this expecting it to be some generic J-RPG but was suprised to find alot of humor in it... untill i noticed all the pedophilia and child abuse. Choose a little girl as pet? Damn this shit .. fuck it how can you play something vile as this?

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>>17503754
RPGs from SNES-N64-PS1 era that have a comparable artstyle would be some of the fuckhuge amount of JRPGs like Ogre battle or Suikoden series. http://suikoden.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Suikoden_II_-_Portrait_Images
http://suikoden.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Suikoden_III_-_Portrait_Images
Not all might mesh with Elona's style 100%, but looking for ''facesets'' on game resource sharing sites (example http://charas-project.net/resources) would get you hundreds of pages of portraits like these. And charasets would get you animated sprites you could convert into PCCs with a little work. After finding shit you like, all you have to do is a search for the specific character you found if you also want a fullbody portrait to match.

>>17503775
Nothing really happened. Try to keep it that way.

>>17503778
Hey man I treat my little girl well

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>>17503778
Things like that only happen in the game if you do them yourself. Which doesn't reflect too favorably on you, anon. If you don't like those things, why are you willfully indulging in them?

>>17503830
>why are you willfully indulging in them
I guess because they're hot. It makes alot of sense when you look at it from that point of perspective

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>>17503781
The charas-project link was shortened incorrectly, this one should work http://charas-project.net/resources.php?wa=0&lang=it&area=3&howmany=10&fsearch=
It's basically wading through garbage, helps to look for specific games (e.g. pic related is legend of mana)

>>17503755
Look up elona tag on pixiv. There is literally none. Only two facelift projects for vanilla portraits that stay somewhat true to original style... again, 'somewhat'. Its true for basically whole Elona ommunity works if you spend some time on E-uploader and google. My wording is pretty bad, cant be helped.

The only source left is other old games and art bundles/fanart for them, and its a real pain in the ass, especially if you never played most of those.

>>17503781
>>17503898
Thanks, Anon.

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>>17503962
Who limited finding art to just pixiv? You were told to try making your own and you replied word for word there was no source art to make portraits from >>17503227
Yet here I am finding shit non-stop. But that's what you wanted of course. You're were just a faggot about it

https://www.spriters-resource.com/playstation/V.html

>>17501706
I dunno I'm still making far more money than I need off of whale sushi.
Especially after trading for the super lure off a random adventurer.

>>17504013
how much is "far more money than I need"

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>>17504013

>>17504032
1-5 mil/day

>>17504006

Oh good job. Now all you need is to realise that its still very different from vanilla art. And then understand that only a very little portion of sprites actually fits Elona. And then try to find downloadable artbooks or simply HQ art for characters with art that that actually fits in.

And, again, there is still practically no such art in japanese Elona community, nevermind english one.

In the end there is only one faggot, and thats you.

>>17504098
Exactly, you actually have to look for it. But you don't. You don't contribute anything except whining my dude, which is why you are trash.

New player here. How often is a new version of Elona released?

>>17504098
>very little
Then use art from other sources outside of elona related stuff if you can't find something you like.
You can't expect people to have made what you want unless it's something they wanted themselves and from the sounds of it lots of people didn't so there is not much of it.
You can always use art from actual art, old games, books, or whatever, just look through everything until you find something, nothing is stopping you from using the myriad of artwork on the net. If it must be as close as possible to original elona art, and you can't find that or there isn't any then there is nothing you can really do, other then just move on.

>>17504118
every couple months

>>17504174
[...] just move on and whine a bit in elona thread to annoy guys like >>17504116

Well yeah. I'm just somewhat frustrated about lack of love for the original elona style. I'll try to go at it again, once i get access to broadband connection. Thanks for the motivation, anon.

>>17504236
Dang, dial-up lad special snowflaked for 1/3 a thread just to be a nuisance. He sure got us the absolute madman

>>17504281
Oh look, a totally not annoyed anon.
Why do i have to go out of my way to prove you perso ally that i actually spent quite a bit of my precious time on research is completely beyond me. And your manner of speech reminds me of /b spills.

Will everyone please stop taking the bait and just ignore that faggot that keeps bitching about custom sprites?

>>17504345
>>17504281

Please just stop posting

damn someone killed shena at the bar

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I run the game as admin and in compability mode (vista) but I keep getting random "#Error 1-->内部エラーが発生しました(1)" Anyone know why?

>>17504410
Try win7/xp mode. Whats your game version?

>>17504441
>Try win7/xp mode
Will try that.
latest. 1.7 I think

>Elona having an artstyle
I honestly though it was a mishmash of RPGMaker default assets and public domain shit

>>17504653
A lot of it is honestly. I have seen quite a few in game sprites in freeware rpg maker games.
I've seen the Big daddy sprite as a robot boss in another freeware Jap game for example.
I think some of it is original though.

>>17504653
It was, Noa had to change a bunch of equipment arts in the beginning since they were actually not public domain. This was way long ago when the regular Elona was still in development.

>>17504653
I'm pretty sure the portraits in E+ were drawn specifically for it. I think that's why portraits for newer NPCs look a little different; Ano probably had to find a different artist. Now for portraits and sprites in vanilla, yeah they are public domain images, some coming pre-packed with RPGMaker stuff.

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Finally, proof that cold damage breaks anything and everything

I have a piece of godly equipment. Can i use Garok's hammer to add bonus enchantment to it?

>>17504653
Doesnt it basically mean Elona = RPGMaker's artstyle, though.

Can i use Garok's hammer to add bonus ench to some {godly} piece of equipment in E+?

>>17504939
Lightning > All after all(nether aside).

>>17504941
>>17504968
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Garok%27s_hammer#Elona.2B

>>17504968
Oops, I thought DC ate my post. Also, can i use Garok's hammer more than once on one piece of equipment?

>>17504983

>Elona+

>Garok's hammer instead gives a fixed bonus depending on what item it is used on

It tells me nothing. Instead of what? Instead of rerolling equipment into artifact? Does it even change common piece into artifact now? Are vanilla limitations still there?
Wiki tells zero info about it's mechanics changes in E+.

>>17504939
Damn. Now I really want there to be Oil Bolt or something. Fire is a cooler element then the rest anyway.

>>17505012
It still changes a normal piece of equipment into a miracle level item. However, it no longer adds a random enchantment, giving (much better) fixed ones based off the equipment type. This also means it can't be used on artefacts anymore, it's sole purpose now is to upgrade equipment and guarantee hard-to-find attributes. It's also one use only still, but costs half as much as it did before.

>>17505023
Thank you.

How do i protect my pets from drinking well water?

>>17505140
Tamer's Whip, alternatively empty out all wells you see personally either by drinking or with empty bottles.

Now that I think about it, I kind of wish there was an easy way to get empty bottles. It would make sense to have them leftover from drinking potions normally. Alternatively use the miscellaneous lot of empty bottles item to get like 3-6.

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>>17501876
>>17502987
I redid it from start again, and noticed the two pictures were misaligned. Changed the background, did the blendingish thing again, then loaded and saved it in ms paint 3d and it worked. Thanks anons!

>>17505140
If Ano didnt nerf it, each character had it's own wish counter from wells.
You get less and less chances for wish upon drinking after each wish. When pets drunk and got wish they used their own counter, effectively adding several wishes over the course of the game.

>>17505236
D'oh. Misaligned. Well you get the idea.

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valkyrie portrait

>>17505241
I'm new so i don't know a lot about wishes, I'm just worried about alien impregnation

>>17505260
just (G)ive poison to pet to abort pregnancy.

How exactly does selling rods at your shop work for getting wish rods? I have the +33% for bartering feat (Aesthetic?) on my shopkeeper, but I've never gotten a wish rod tradein. I assume the value of a wish rod is like 10-15k, judging by the price of a wish spellbook. But other rods don't surpass 3k. How does that work?
Further, i know if I buy and sell an item, the resale value is capped at 1/3 +1 of the buy price. But if the price discrepancy doesn't matter, should I just buy out goods vendors for hundreds of rods and dump them in a Magic shop?

>>17505260
>>17505276
Also, eventually, consider giving them equipment that prevents alien infestation.

>>17505283
Wish rods are probably special exceptions. You can place one in your shop and it will never sell.

>>17505293
I mean the reverse; supposedly if you sell regular rods you have a chance of getting a trade-in of a wish rod, just as all items have a chance of trading in. I'm trying to determine what affects that and if I can just mass sell bought rods.

>>17505283
Trade in item's type depends on sold item type. Just sell a bunch of rods to get a chance of wish rod. Or maybe it was nerfed.

Usually people just had whole farms filled with magic seeds, and sold all non-wish/alchemy/firewall rods on shop to get a chance for better rod.

>>17505276
>>17505287
Yeah I knew that. Just worried about running out of poisons and dyes or forgetting. The thought of a potential alien infestation ruining a town scares me

So the only way to get wishes is drinking from wells? Cause I've been avoiding them like the plague.

>>17505310
Oh excellent, so I can mass buy rods and sell them maybe. Having a rank 2k goods vendor might actually be good and not godawful.

Whats up with that loli Gwen the Innocent? I leash her and she starts smashing walls all around her

>>17505313
Wish rods and wish spells are the other options.
Until you get a fuckload of Casting levels wells are the easiest way to get wishes.
Rods of wish are just really, really damn rare.

>>17505313
you will never run out of dyes, you will be elated that you can throw away a dye that's burning a hole in your potion rack every time somebody gets facehugged

>>17505324
she's an <unique> NPC like a boss, so she can't be contained by walls

>>17505313
No, but its the best way early on. Aliens are not scary, random enemy spawn is. And random mutations.

Fountains give a bunch of other benefits, though.

I usually get at least 4-6 wishes from wells until i encounter the first wish rod on my farm. And spells are not usable until very very late game.

Use holy well every month no Noyel for best results.

>>17505318
Goods vendor is the best vendor. Lots of scrolls and unlimited water source + misc useful stuff, like food. But i doubt you'll get even one rod this way. Resell penalty is pretty harsh. Magic farm/crafting is the only way to go now, I think.

>>17505324
As expected of <Gwen> of the indomitable flatness.
No oniichan is safe.

>>17505324
she's having a bad day man give her a break

>>17505367
Once upon a time grown up Gwen got mad when i mocked her pettankoness. I had to kill her.
Now i'm too scared to enter Yowyn.
(true story)

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>>17505371
>>17505367
Ah, she finaly cut the leash. Fierce girl

>>17505355
Oh okay that makes sense

>>17505381
Doesn't she gain a level every couple of in game days after you kill her the first time?

>>17505413
every couple of hours, according to wiki.
she is probably the best source of ap outside of void.

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>>17505360
Thanks for the tip, it's just I just heard a tip that it wasn't a good idea to drink from the well

>>17505447
because it could spawn monsters. keep teleport rod/scroll ready for this.

So if I got jure's special healing action and then I abandon her, do I lose the healing prayer? Itzpalt's staff is looking really nice.

>>17505485
yes, but you can return to her later. you can convert to jure for free every 12th month during festival.

How do I get tailoring on my pet? Farmers don't seem to give it.

>>17505560
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Mushroom_%28NPC%29
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Easy_Gene_Engineering

>>17505594
You're the man, the regular gene engineering wiki page is missing a lot

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oh fug

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>>17505644

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>get friend into elona
>we tell each other about the happenings in our games
>he trades an adventurer
>adventurer has a longsword with "it brings an end"
>he tries to trade for it
>incoming 'You kidding?'
>he can trade for it
>he trades a fucking leather engagement amulet for this nuclear sword
>on top of this, it's a living weapon
>at level 6, he owns a sword that levels up from starting apocalypses

>>17505360
Magic farm/crafting sounds good. At this point I have so many recharge scrolls that draw/fill isn't even good for me anymore, probably better to sell all those rods.

>>17505832
Holy shit that's fucking native american sell you some fucking rocks for your land levels of savagery. Once this dude gets past dying from Ragnaroks he can just farm Ragnarok spawned dragons until level 10. Fucking ace dude. Make that shit into diamond immediately

>>17505832
Tell your friend to max out extra attacks.

>>17499258

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Counting extra races,which one is the most broken?

Dragon? God? machinegod? undeadgod? catgod?

Wish I could play Elona on android. Can't really sit and play this on my computer, nor do I have the time...

>>17505939
None of them, really.
The ones with nice stats come with huge INI and/or missing equipment slots, and picking a race does not give you any of the special flags (e.g. metal) that come with its usual members.

So basically extra races are just missing out on one of the race bonuses from the default races.

>>17505939
Catsister would be the most ¨balanced¨ of the extra classes since it has all the normal slots, but starts with 200+ speed, and doesn´t have a racial bonus, I´m not sure about INI tho, just comparing them off the wiki

>>17505979
>30 life

>>17503468
Are you really so autistic that you need your images to copy the art style one for one or youll have a little fucking temper tantrum because you cant make due even with how simple modding the game is?

Oh wait I forgot where I am. I am so sorry you're assblasted that they didnt put in something that takes more effort than yourself are willing to put in to the game, I'll personally make sure that in the future, every group of game devs make art for everything from otsku culture to stop you from sperging out about something that doesn't matter in the slightest.

>>17505939
Fairy, Golem, and Mutant. As that other guy said, none of the extra races actually have anything unique going for them. You can fix poor life, mana, speed, etc. Fairy, Golem, and Mutant(assuming the 27 slot mutant is still possible) however offer bonuses you can't get anywhere else.

If they actually revamped some of those extra races like giving the metal race metal trait, they may be viable, but yeah, there's no real point to a lot of them. I wonder why Ano hasn't tried implementing some of the extra races into something spiffier actually. New classes too.

>>17506236
?????? you forgot snail, also the best extra races are imp and shell. Shell is like ezmodo snail because you get a foot slot for SLB instead of a back slot. Still gearing up my shell gene, I need one living sniper rifle and I'm ready. New update should provide that.

>>17506236
Why are fairy and golem special?

>>17506281
Fairy: Resists, DV bonus
Golem: Immunity to Dim.

>>17498609
would you mind sharing your interface.bmp?

>>17506294
Not total immunity to dim. After a certain level of the void monsters can dim you with sound attacks. Kai was talking about it.

>>17506365
Kai is not playing a golem, silly.

>>17506365
Lets be honest here, who else is going to ever reach that far into the depths of the void?

>>17506377
Well I'm like on floor 50 of the void. Another guy is like floor 3000 or something. Awhile back I remember people talking about getting dimmed a lot in awakened dungeons. Last I played a Golem I was getting dimmed left and right from Yith creatures I started to find in South Tyris dungeons.

>>17506631
Sanity status effects breach all status resistances. Blind, paralysis, etc. That Yiths somehow Dim you is pretty standard as they most definitely inflict near-everything due to sanity.

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what does the crown mean over dungeons?

>>17506700
Means you've been to the bottom floor. Aka, the boss is either dead or gone because you died or ran away. Torch means you've entered but not been to the bottom yet.

>>17506700
It means the boss isn't around anymore.

>>17506700
Bloodbath! Area conquered

>>17506715
>>17506716
>>17506728
Is it possible that another adventurer went through it? I don't recall going through this dungeon.

>>17506747
No

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amifucked?

New player here, have trouble keeping my potentials up. I'm lvl 30 and my potential is just as hopeless as irl. Got 3 blessed potions of potential but it took me quite a while to get them. I've invested in like 4 magic shops and got them to 85. plz help

>>17506945
Get a pet, get them to friend status, teach them cooking, go to sleep between 9 and midnight.
They will make breakfast which will help restore potentials. Gets better the higher their cooking skill.

>>17506945
I've got one magic shop slightly over 100 and it has an occasional potion of potential. I think most people get their shops over 200.