Honest thoughts on Type Moon?

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>>17436530
Tsukihime is dead and Fate is eternal.

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Why does no one ever talk about this?

>>17436650
The story was absolute garbage, even by Nasuverse standards, none of the characters' motivations made a lick of sense.

>>17436650
The vn is good and the first two episodes of the anime are alright.

I haven't connected with many stories on the level i connected with Tsukihime. Evangelion is the only one i can think of that felt that real to me. It's only been a little over a year since i read the VN for the first time, and yet listening to the calmer tunes on the soundtrack makes me feel homesick, like i used to live with these characters and moved away. That's a feeling i only really get with Tsukihime.

Kara no Kyoukai is really good too and Fate is okay.

>>17436650
high tension and cummings were the only good parts.

I like them. Though nowadays their content does not draw me as muchas it did before, I still love their old works up to Mahoyo. I just don't care for the gacha.
Hopefully the Tsukihime remake will be nice, we'll see in 10 years when it's released.

I still enjoy Type Moon works. Granted, the newer works don't have much of the same forboding, atmospheric appeal of the older works and I don't like a few entries here and there, but I can still find a great deal of interest in the Type Moon universe whenever something new is made. The Tsukihime VN and first two Fate VNs have really memorable moments too. It's hard not to have your blood pumping for Nine Lives Blade Works after going through so many days of nothing but build up.

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Len is the cutest Typemoon!

As a secondary whose only experience was watching parts (I've never completed it) of the 2000s FSN anime and completing the KnK anime and never read any of the VNs, I thought the series wasn't for me. It was way too chuuni for my taste but I can't deny that some of the girls are very cute.

>>17460710
no clue who this loli is but she's cute

>>17436650
Bee Train ripoff that got progressively worse. MUH TERRORISTS. MUH VIRUSES

>>17436530
Pros:

World Building.
Some characters designs are great.

Cons:

Hack writting.
The Saber cancer, Mordred is the only good Saber.

>>17468156
>Mordred is the only good Saber
People who say Saberfaces are cancer and then actually go on to pick some of the worst Saberfaces as "good" really reeks something funny.

>>17436530
Typemoon is dead for me.

>>17436530
Only played Melty Blood and watched the shitty Tsukihime anime. Archetype:Earth and the Lens are best girls.

Type-Moon was a mistake.
I started with Zero, then moved onto KnK, FSN (novel) then Extra and other Fate shit. I still play Grand Order from time to time.
It's all chuuni shit. Enjoyable, yeah. Well written, mostly. Still chuuni shit.

I have yet to read Tsukihime but I think I know enough about the DAAs and DAs and vampires and SHIKI to know it's chuuni shit.

>>17469728
>enjoyable
>well written
Why complain about something you like and calling it shit because it's chuuni? There's nothing wrong with that.

>>17473384
>Why complain about something you like and calling it shit because it's chuuni?

Because we live in the "le ironic weeb" era.

Realta Neuta just wasn't well-written. It wasn't enjoyable either. So I don't understand the hype. They keep milking Fate but I guess if people eat it up then that's fine.

>>17436650
It wasn't very good. The anime at least didn't bother resolving any of the plot.

>>17473413
Name ONE fanbase that isn't absolute cancer. A fanbase shouldn't affect your enjoyment of something

Type moon is dead to me as soon as the Fate Zero anime was announced

Type moon is different now back in early 2000s everything about the brand had a homemade and subtle appeal with -some- small references to older anime


Now type moon is just full of blatant otaku pandering, the "historical figure as a Girl " got old fast, every new charactet is just modeled to whoever hot flavor of the month anime character or seiyuu and lastly the abuse of anime/manga tropes


Its like fate hollow ataraxia never ended

>>17436530
It used to be pretty cool.

Completely dead now though. Highly doubt Nasu will ever work on another project all by himself. All the Fate milking completely lacks any of the core components of the original TM works.

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>>17441220
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srmhiisosRs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJLo3oyjRcE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEtCDjEENx4

It's a shitty world where this has been killed by a gacha mobile game.

Mahoyo and Kara no Kyoukai movies had phenomenal OSTs too, but I guess it's not the same homely kind of sound you're talking about.

>>17473384
Because it lacks literary merit, it's just really good genre fiction.

>>17480361
What does this post even mean?

Type-moon is dead, i hope the Tsukihime remake will remain a meme till the end seeing how they managed to soullessly commercialize the fuck out of fate

Type milking the cow even after its gruesome death.
It needs to stop already.

>>17441220
>>17480347
Honestly, I enjoyed the OST while I played but was a bit frustrated by how few tracks there were. Hearing these tracks again after so long really does feel nostalgic, you hit the nail on the head. I don't know if it was intentional, but something about the music is making me appreciate the value of a quiet life surrounded by people that care about you. I feel like it takes away some of the shame I feel when I'm not constantly chasing wild ambitions. Scenes especially from Kagetsu Tohya and Hollow Ataraxia are becoming more impactful the older I get.

I don't know if anyone else feels the same way.

>>17480951
>What does this post even mean?
Novels can't be considered good unless they have at least 3 Kenosha Kid chapters

>>17441220
Totally this.

Tsukihime had that atmosphere that keep you hooked to the story, you don't know what the fuck is going on, and the character were nice.

Fate ? Not that good.

I'm just a newcomer, but I'm liking it so far.
I've gone through some Fate anime and Extra.

I'm going through Tsukihime and Fate Realta Nua and they feel a little different with how serious shit is. Tsukihime is particularly bonkers with the kind of shit Shiki goes through. They remind me of some parts of Extra and the Zero anime.

>>17484623
I felt Tsukihime dragged a lot. Arcueid's route had way too much exposition, Hisui's route was literally just Shiki stuck in bed for a week.
It nailed the dark atmosphere but I found Fate a lot more gripping, especially UBW.
I think having fewer routes but longer route lengths helps a lot.
Fate also developed its themes very well across the story. The climax of HF really encapsulates Shirou's development.
Compared to that Tsukihime's climax falls a bit flat.

I keep wondering who are worse, secondary cancer, specially Zerofags, or the a Type Moon has declined muh nostalgia Nasu sold out crowd. Just different types of obnoxious annoying whiny faggots I guess.

>>17485649
Fate has a bigger contrast between serious and relaxed because one of the basic tenets of the HGW is "go do your fightan at night" so there's more time for relaxation and stuff. Shit hits the fan when that rule is broken though, you'll see what I mean as you go.

Why do people say "chuuni" like if it an insult?

>>17481344
Just wait for Tsuki girls to become FGO MC's waifus.

>>17488249
>GOfag thinks he's not a different kind of cancer

You're the worst kind, actually. Go on eating whatever turd Type-Moon shoves down your throat without questioning it, because you don't wanna be "whiny". Surely Extella, FGO, and Apocrypha are just as good as Fate/stay night, Tsukihime, and Kara no Kyoukai, enjoy the "golden age" of TM.

>>17488697
This is what lazy entitled fans tell themselves every time to avoid keeping up with the franchise while trying to claim it for themselves

>>17489389
Different person but thank you, I finally get it now. Not wanting to shovel shit into my mouth means that I'm lazy. It all makes sense! I mean, why wouldn't I want to play a trash gacha mobage in order to keep up with a franchise that's morphed into something completely different from what I enjoyed in the first place?

>>17489456
All I'm getting from this is you want the accolades of someone that did the required work despite you reading only one thing. You can proclaim the original VN is your bible all you want but the fans and staff will continue to create new content without your approval. Arturia's VA is already over 40 years old and I'm glad that a "trash gacha mobage" is moving in a direction where it can be canon and the workload is dispersed onto other people

>>17489389
>implying I didn't play FGO JP from day 1 until I got tired of forcing myself through a really shitty game with unappealing story, characters, and a self-insert
>implying I didn't keep up with the story even after that, only to realize that even the "good parts" are nothing like what I enjoyed in old Type-Moon works

No. Trash is trash. Modern Fate is absolutely not what Type-Moon used to be about. It's an entirely different work that directly goes against
what Fate/stay night was, and doesn't even bear a resemblance to Kara no Kyoukai, Tsukihime, or Mahoyo. Good for you that you enjoy it, but claiming that other people can't shit talk it because its very foundations are repulsive to them is a childish mentality.
Enjoy your half-assed, cheaply made trash that prioritizes quantity over quality. Type-Moon is dead until they actually put effort into something again with a proper creative vision, from beggining to end.

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>>17488697
Good job at proving my point

>>17491294
>you can't say it's shit unless you try it out
>even if you do try it out and hate it, you still can't say it's shit because that's apparently an excuse
>not wanting to suffer through something that's clearly not what you enjoy about a franchise is lazy and entitled

We get it, you want a hugbox, friendo.

>>17491294
You're alone on this one.

>>17492019
You say this while trying to make a fate hate hugbox in this corner of the internet

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They should have made FemMC on the Fate/Extra anime

Overrated to ALL hell. Kind of interesting initial ideas until you realize how absurd the setting details are. Waste of potential. Waste of decent concepts.

>>17488262
It refers to an "illness". It's an insult.

>>17493815
Cancer is an illness. Does that mean Breaking Bad is a bad show?

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>mfw Zerofags think their fanfiction is better because it's ''''more mature'''' despite the original having better themes and being better at exploring those themes

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>>17436530
i just read the vn but the whole
>"sex your servant to power up"
is just silly, i mean shirou could just fuck king arthur since day one 3 times a day everyday and they would become unstopable.

>>17494368
>sex your servant to power up
it's sex your servant to restore their mana if you can't do it the normal way (which shirou can't 'cause he's a crap magus)

What was the reason they had to rip one of Shirou's magic circuits out again?

>>17493808
this
people who thinks it used to be better are forgetting that type moon have always made erogames

>>17488697
>>17490688
>>17492019
>>17494353
>>17494368
Who are you quoting?

I'll leave this here:
http://tsukikan.com/misc/a-review-of-kara-no-kyoukai.html

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Honest thoughts on copy-paste?

>>17494564
You mean like the OP's /v/ style template you're referencing? I wish people like that would fuck off from /jp/.

>>17494555
what the fuck can you even say about something this pedantic

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>>17494564
as long as its cute its good.

>>17494696
Where is 三毛レン?

>>17494564
Its not bad and people just want to bitch.

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>>17494820
replaced with a fake

>>17460780
it is chuuni, its just that chuuni is not necessarily a bad thing.

Its ok I guess.

For all of its flaws, old Type Moon was very charming and had lots of interesting characters and ideas. Nowadays, they just milk the same shit over and over again.

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>>17436530
when will there be another season of carnival phantasm

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>>17436530

I used to like them, but sadly they're dead and the corpse has been raped. Ruined by their own success, they realized they don't have to make good, interesting visual novels anymore and can get much more money by just selling lottery tickets for digital waifus to autistic whales.

F/GO was the worst thing that happened to Type-Moon.

>>17436650

I was told that it's not connected to Type-Moon, it just has Takeuchi as a character designer.

>>17514984

A pity, actually. I would love for TM to put out a visual novel that's set in the same universe as Fate and Tsuki but has zero magi or vampires in it. Just a whole new paradigm.

Kara no Kyoukai was cool I guess. They do okay development for the settings.

Never liked Type-Moon works overall though. Trash writing, trash characters. I swear people are only into this shit for the waifus or nostalgia.

>>17514984
It's written by Nasu. How much more type-moon can you get?

Original Saber is the best, delete all the clones.

>>17484623
I find Unlimited Blade Works to be absorbing.

Will Girls Works ever be tangible thing?

>>17480361
The Iliad is the most chuuni thing known to man.

>>17515372
It was written by Mari Okada. It was based on the setting of a guest side-story Nasu did for Shibuya Scramble of all things.

>>17517171
Hamlet was basically chuuni, too.

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>>17516556
No. Not when Fate/Extella 2 needs Nasu to put his all in! And Grand Order 2,and Fate/Extella 3....

How does Tsukihime hold up today anyway? It's been ages

Tsukihime and the original Fate VN were pure, messy ambition. Drenched in darker atmospheres, interesting characters and a bubbling world.

Of course, Type Moon today is irredeemable fucking trash. Can't believe I shelled out so much for Extella.

>>17436530
Type Shit.
Nasushit.
Shit Moon.
Shit Shit.

It's shit.

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>>17522801
No, Scat is shit.

>>17522841
What an interesting-looking character! Is that the new quasi-meta-demi-servant that Aoko (80s version) can transform into by doing the fusion dance with Cu Chulainn?

>>17436530
Dead as far as I am concerned.

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The greatest love story ever told.

>>17522870
Nah, it's the design for a character mentioned once in some ass-end sourcebook that now happens to look like Aoko for whaling purposes.

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Don't be mean about Scathac. She'll kick your ass and then fuck it with her futa dick magic

>>17517179
>It was written by Mari Okada.
Ohhh, that explains a lot.

>>17525070
>>17522841
Scathac looking like Aoko is the reason I can't fap to her. If this was Nasu's intention how to make Aoko more popular than no I don't like this.

>>17528009
You actually vocalized my thoughts about this perfectly. Also, Scat's skintight outfit looks retarded.

Although I'm not actually sure if I could fap to Aoko either, because I can only imagine her melting me into a puddle of flesh in the process.

Is Fate/stay night the greatest tale of heroism of the modern age?

>>17528009
It's just artist's sameface.

>>17529232
they don't have the same artist

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>>17529414
Is this a fucking joke?

The artist for Mahoyo and Scathac's Grand Order artist is Hirokazu Koyama.

>>17529414
Mahoyo's artist drew Scathach. That's probably why anon (or rather most people), think that they look similar. Original Aoko looks different from the current version as well.

Most of the Tsuki downloads I found had leftover savegames, so I did a clean install (except plusdisc). Since I myself had a fairly hard time gathering this shit, I though I might as well as upload it for other people.

https://mega.nz/#F!h51nzC6S

key: !5T9zfPETV764eJNx5YHu5A

Contains:
Tsukihime with EVER AFTER soundtrack
Kagetsu Tohya
Genshi Doumei
Fool's Errand
Plusdisc

>>17529536
>with EVER AFTER soundtrack
You were almost perfect

>>17530220
Added the original too.
Does Kagetsu Tohya also have another version?

>>17436530
Hollow Ataraxia's main plot is relatable to me.

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>>17468156
>Mordred is the only good Saber
She's clearly one of the worst though.

>>17529536
>>17530356
Thank you for this
And as far I've known, there's no other Kagetsu Tohya version

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>>17436530
I hope they actually publish the remakes.

>>17529536
Is mirror moon really needed when the game is already in English?

>>17534844
You mean the zip file? It has all the original setup executable. I uploaded it just for archiving purposes and in case someone needs them.

>>17532293
Mossan is one of the best comedy Sabers and one of the worst serious Sabers, like her futa dad. Arthur is actually a pretty good serious Saber, but doesn't have much to joke about. Nero's pretty much right down the middle, but she can be grating.

>>17528586
Scat's outfit is on Takeuchi deciding skintight bodysuit was how to replicate Celtic woad painting on Cu. Also, I want to use my flesh to make a puddle in Aoko! I like Melty Blood Miss Blue Aoko way more than ubertsundere Mahoyo Aoko. But Rakkyo Touko is best.

>>17436530
I like the various series in VN/Novel/Manga form + FGO.
I dislike Prillya anime.
I get why people say "fuck fate give me turnkey/mahoyo" but I see aspects of the world building from both still and the occasional callback of sorts and that's what drew me to TM in the first place so I guess I don't mind as much. Like I would love to have the turkey remake out but at the same time I'm not overly angry about not having it.
I just like having a thing to read and having the various character interactions and slightly different mannerisms for servants based on which "version" of them it is is also nice.
I honestly would rather get a new Carnival Phantasm before anything else though.

>>17535624
You are 100% the worst kind of TMfag. Just a Fatefag who is fine with everything else being totally done and reduced to background references and side characters. You don't care as long as they keep putting out more Servants with the same gimmick, with Nasu occasionally writing for it.
No variation, no trying anything new, not allowing other parts of the universe to get the main role. No interesting new main characters, no core thematic differences (same old "heroism" and "power of humanity" shit), only changing the setting sometimes because the current fans don't give a fuck about urban fantasy, which is what all of the original works were based in. Cancer.

>>17530362
Tsukihime's main plot is relatable to me.

>>17525070
oh no, how awful

I fucking hate mobage and what it has done to Type Moon and other companies. It's like a cancerous tumor that is sucking up everyone's creative drive and depriving us of games and visual novels that they could be making instead.

>>17529536
Rips of TYPE-MOON's PC games
https://mega.nz/#F!BA4yHYoT!NwGVKj4q9Z1vnpKlYY-4UQ

>>17529536
Tsukihime manga?

>>17436530
It's pretty bad. Except for Bazett.

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>>17539090
You wish, nerd.

>>17540451
what a cutie

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Reminder that TM Ace 12 had no actual Tsukihime news or even a cg. Just, "We're working on it."

Isn't it sad, Tsukifags?

>>17436530
Overrated yet at the same time underrated. Anime only viewers give Type Moon a bad name.

>>17549028
>Anime only viewers give Type Moon a bad name.
Don't generalize. You probably wouldn't be able to tell me apart from someone who read the manga.

>>17549082
>the manga.
Embarrassing. Obviously I mean the VN. I was just thinking of something else while typing, that's all.

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It's okay you guys. Remember that Nasu said the Tsukihime Remake was going to come out around the same time it would get a collab in Grand Order! Can't be that long now!

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>>17549085
>>17549082
Please go read the VNs

>>17549172
Don't need to when I already watched Zero and DEENime.

>>17549204
The manga is better

>>17549131
Left beats right.

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>>17550170
>delusional Tsukifag
Saber and Gilgamesh can solo the Tsukihime side no question.

it use to have a nice combination of best girls and interesting story but now its just all girls and no story

>>17551206
Everyone knows that the Fate characters generally have greater and more graniose powers(perhaps with the exception of Shiki, but he also has the extreme limitation of merely being human)than Tsukihime characters. There's no need to try to turn everything into a power level argument in an attempt to give more lure to your bait.

Also, it's not like it's any big deal if TH gets a remake or not, honestly. All it'll end up being is a reskin and perhaps new music or sound effects. Very little to no new writing to be had with that.

>>17551593
>Very little to no new writing
>Sacchin route
I still believe

>>17551670
It's never going to happen and it doesn't matter anyways because she sucks.

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>>17552291
>it doesn't matter anyways because she sucks

>>17436615
I hate this fox.

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>>17553023
>I have bad taste
I know her debut was the beginning of the end, anon, but that doesn't mean she's bad.

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>>17551593
I wouldn't call Shiki's power grandiose,nor was I the one trying to start some powerlevel argument. Nasu made it perfectly clear that Fate>>>>>>Tsukihime and that humans and their strength will always surpass those in nature of the Dead Apostles.

Especially considering that he's removing certain DAA from the list and revising it as a whole. Can't wait.

>>17553799
But that's wrong. The Nasuverse was recently split in two because Nasu wanted to wank humanity as much as possible in a shitty mobile game about Servants. Obviously, that would lose value if there were inhuman monsters just as strong as Servants roaming around, so now those are all low tier in the Fate universe.

However, in Tsukihime worlds they're still just as strong as ever, and they're supposed to be counterparts to Servants in terms of power level.

There isn't much reformatting of the list that we've seen, either. ORT and Zelretch exist in both, probably just as strong. Primate Murder is still a thing. Nrvnqsr and Van-Fem are in Strange Fake (though that's an exception for the worlds, they're still canon). Wallachia, Gransurg Blackmore, Forest of Einnashe, and Rita Rozay-en are all referenced/shown in Case Files. There's so way they'd remove Merem Solomon either, considering how much background/lore he already has. Altrouge and her 2 other bodyguards will almost certainly remain unchanged too.

>>17553857
Oh, and Caubac Alcatraz is in SF too, talking to Zelretch on the phone. And he's important to Fate/Labyrinth.

>>17553857
>>17553878
I really wanna know how he's going to handle Tsukihime meeting Fate for the Grand Order colab.

And about the list, I'm just repeating what he said in the TM 10(?) where certain DAA on the list were going to be removed.

>>17553723
Who are you quoting?

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>>17554044
>I have nothing to say so durr who are you quoting hurr

A for effort.

>>17554024
I really couldn't give less of a fuck about FGO trash, but most likely they'll just use extra magic fuckery to rayshift to an alternate universe, in Tokyo shortly after the events of Tsukihime R. You meet up with Arc and Shiki, maybe someone else from the gang. Fight a bunch of Servants, and then probably the real Primate Murder as Beast IV as the final boss.

Or they'll actually do something creative with an original story and DAA vs Servants, considering how much that event has been hyped up, but don't count on it. Low effort cash-ins are just that. I'd much rather any work put into that event be siphoned into the actual Remake.

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>>17436530
my absolute favorite trash.

wish there was more tsuki and less fate
but I know if that were the case I would just wish for the opposite.

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>>17468907
what anime?

>>17554083
Who the hell are you quoting?

>>17554160
The CCC event crossover was pretty great, and Nasu said that a CCCxGO collab was one of the things he most wanted to do with Grand Order. He said something similar with Tsukihime, so I feel like he might make it good.

I just don't what shitty Fate memes or any of the Fate cast to interact too much with the Tsuki side.

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>>17554188
Its okay, anon, here's your (You).

>>17554083
>>17554205
Who were you quoting?

>>17554171
I wish there was anything besides Fate at all, and not just references to other shit within Fate.

I mean shit, it certainly would be just as bad the other way around, but at least TRY to keep everyone happy.

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>>17436530
Type Moon and their visual novels have become like Valve and their video games.

>>17554044
>>17554188
>>17554219
lurk more

>>17553723
Can you name anything good except "Foxgirl" or "Tits"

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>>17556204
Yeah, her goofy personality and character tics, her wanting to be a good person for once and trying to leave her past behind while still being haunted by it, her magic and martial arts.

Then there's her possessiveness, her cruelty and general uncaring attitude towards anyone that isn't her Master (which I wish more character acted like, I'm tired of servants trying to be friends with each other), and her sly behavior. I love my jackal wife.

>>17436530
Case Files stands head and shoulders above everything else in terms of prose quality (mostly on the strength of narrative voice).

Fate is being inundated with garbage character designs and concepts thanks to FGO, and my interest in it is mostly being sustained by Strange Fake, which at least knows how to be a fun, twisty adventure story with a solid aesthetic and some nice references to actual history and mythology sprinkled in.

I really want to read Mahoyo, but I can't bring myself to import the disc and I'm too incompetent to pirate disc-based VNs.

>>17558576
Mahoyo translation haven't finished yet.

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>>17551439
F/sn uses the HGW as a backdrop for the characters and themes, which nasu excels at. All the other fate spinoff are just DUDE SERVANTS FIGHTING LMAO, which is fun but not as memorable. There's a reason why /jp/ has had fate threads like every day for the past 10 years.

Fate/Stay Night is different from the later spin offs of the concept because the everything in the story had a *purpose.*

The point of bringing in mythological heroes was to ask the question "What makes a Hero?" and tie it to Shirou's own character arc.

Even the magic in the story exists to advance the theme. It's not just there to look cool (though it *does*) but each character's magic abilities is also a reflection of their character and personality.

Witch on the holy night translation when!!

>>17565424
>DUDE SERVANTS FIGHTING LMAO
Looking at you, Apocrypha and Strange Fake.

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Funny how Makihisa Tohno gave Kohaku a college level tutor in medicine (which ended up backfiring on him) and lifetime pension. At the very least, monster as the guy was, she got something out of it.

Would have been hilarious if Sakura had demanded reparations for ten years of experiments when she went all boot camp on Shinji and Zouken in Hollow.

>>17494564
Takeuchi is a shit artist who is okay at coloring

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>>17570631
Takeuchi's art for the game was tragically bad. Even though Takeuchi was even then a talented artist, he was more proficient at drawing manga, not high quality CGs. The concept art was great, but the color, outline, and many other areas needed much more polish. But since Tsukihime was only a doujin game, the quality was considered acceptable.

With the release of the fan disc Kagetsu Tohya, fans noticed that not only were the CGs' lines more refined, but the coloring was also kicked up a notch. It turned out that not only had Takeuchi been practicing hard, TYPE-MOON had also hired two new staff members, Aotsuki Takao and Koyama Hirokazu. From then on, Takeuchi only took care of the initial sketch/concept art, while others did the coloring.

Around the same time, Takeuchi's art style began to take on its distinct form, similar to styles found in seinen manga. Some say this change was brought about by him trying to match his style with the world Nasu created. Some people complained about his characters' arms and legs being too long, but others simply credited it to Takeuchi's unique style. Takeuchi once mentioned his admiration for the works of Yasuhiro Nightow (creator of Trigun manga), and says his inspiration came from him.

>>17570654
Maybe it's just because I'm used to Ryukishi's fucking awful drawing but I liked the art in Tsukihime.
It was very defined and striking, even if the necks and arms were comically large.

>>17570654
Additionally, I've been playing Grisaia recently, and I've noticed that a lot of the CGs have really bad perspective problems, despite the basic sprites being well-drawn.
It's more off-putting to me than Takeuchi's occasional noodly arms and poor colouring.

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>>17565424
Is there some guy going around in fate threads copying posts to use as copypasta? Cause I wrote the first part of this post and i've seen it in three different boards now.

>>17572606
"We're still working on it."

>>17488273
>>17488697
Nasu says that FGO rescues Prototype outline before he caved into Takeuchi and destroyed his original idea which was always about heroic spirits battling enemies of humanity. Urban fantasy was the backdrop before shit hit the fan. The criticism toward a selfish Grail system which was spawned by shitty magi that disturbs their true roles and function of Heroic Spirits which FGO finally addresses in London. All that was going to be explored in Prototype too.

FSN was destroying his vision, FGO is Nasu finally doing what he wanted in his youth, comprising a bit because it's less shoujo.

>>17436530
>Honest thoughts on Type Moon?
Shit for EOPs.

Which makes Mahoyo still being untranslated hilarious.

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>>17570654

I personally don't think Fate was ever good
A very creative and original idea that was marred by inconsistent tone and poor pacing and that squandered any potential of its original idea by instantly overloading it with cliche
Yes, I'm sure it's been said a thousand and one times, but no, it's not cute or cool or endearing or interesting to turn every other historical or legendary figure into a woman just because
There are ways Fate could be (or even could still be) very interesting but it won't happen because it's now become a caricature of itself, which wasn't even good in the first place

>>17576214
>but no, it's not cute or cool or endearing or interesting to turn every other historical or legendary figure into a woman just because
I agree, but that's not how it was originally. That treatment was only given to Arthur. It wasn't even how it was in F/Z either. It's something that happened later after they sold out to bait in more straight men losers who are into stuff just for the cute girls.

>>17576279
Fate/EXTRA?

>>17576286
What about it?

>>17436530
EXTRA and its line of games is scifi bullshit that has no semblance of the original TM storytelling.

Nasu also keeps making new arbitrary rules for everything from basic mahou to concepts, all in all it makes things hard to follow and just bait the cancerous fanbase to eternal arguments.

Worst of all; they made Tsukihime characters sameface to Fate

>>17436530
used to be based but its shit now

>>17480361
holy shit kys lol

>>17570654
Of course it wasn't very polished but the art in Tsukihime went a long way to make me like the game. It had a certain softness to it that made me feel welcome and helped me grow very attached to the characters, and provided a nice contrast between the lighthearted portions and the serious portions. I always got a warm and fuzzy feeling when somebody's big grin sprite appeared and that one upbeat track started playing. FSN's art is technically superior but everything is too angular and nobody smiles very often, though some of the CGs do capture that Tsukihime feeling.

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>>17494475

>>17577256
I still don't get what was so interesting about a bunch of whiny manchildren. At least in Stay Night they were actually kids.

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>>17577450
Kirei and Kiritsugu

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>>17570544
Those skills won't really do her much good, considering she intended to kill herself after using them to execute her revenge.
And in the Hisui ending where she survives, she loses them alongisde the rest of her memory.

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>>17512474
Never.

>>17436914
Maaya Sakamoto as a hot villain made it all worthwhile.

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Their visual novels are far and away more enjoyable than of their work in other media. Type-Moon made me really enjoy "sound novels" as a subgenre for the first time, and to this day I try (unsuccessfully) to get people to try Fate/stay night unvoiced first, because the production values combined with the atmosphere created when SFX and music are the only accompaniment to the text and graphics makes it thrilling in a way I've never felt from a voiced game.

Of course, these days people new to the medium who want to "get into Fate" treat VNs like a fucking chore because they can't be bothered to read YA-novel-level text, so it's becoming a tough sell even with voices.

I also think Hollow Ataraxia is the best thing they've ever produced.

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>>17570654
>Takeuchi once mentioned his admiration for the works of Yasuhiro Nightow (creator of Trigun manga), and says his inspiration came from him.

That makes a lot of sense. His Tsukihime-era art definitely has that flavor to it.

>>17579342
I usually turn the voices off anyway.
It takes long enough to read without having to wait for voices to finish

>>17575314
Nasu's original vision was immature. He recognized that when he wrote FSN. That's why Shirou's arc and the whole point of the game is self-critical.

So if he's returning to that with FGO, then it's regression.

>>17575314
Thank fuck Takeuchi fixed FSN and made Artoria. I wish he tried writing more stuff or teamed up with butcher.

>>17436530
They're gods.

>>17575314
>>17582001
Fuck Takeuchi.
He's the whole reason why the Fate stuff kept going.
He just wants to keep drawing more saberclones.

Girls Work is dead, DDD and Mahoyo abandoned, and Tsukihime Remake/2 are jokes by now, thanks to Takeuchi giving Nasu the easy way out.

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>>17583132
>He just wants to keep drawing more saberclones.
I hope so. Can't get enough of her.

>>17436530
Spinoffs oversaturated Fate and befouled its original appeal.

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>>17582001

>>17583696
that's what you said ten years ago and look where it got us

>>17583857
At the cost of sounding like a hipster, this is my opinion as well. The original system was pretty interesting and most of the heroic figures were there for a reason (a metaphorical link to legendary idealisms and betrayals). But since the concept was so interesting it devolved into mass producing characters and sexually suggestive designs with less and less narrative significance put into them.

>>17585241
>At the cost of sounding like a hipster
That's pretty much common opinion though.
Among primaries, at least.
Yeah, originally everything was there to support the themes and character arcs of the story.
Now it's just 'what would happen if mozart fought joan of arc lmao'

Every french servant was a mistake.

And yes, that includes Lancelot.

They were good fun until they sold out to the gatcha industry. Now they're just a waifu factory

>>17585241
This man is better at expressing my ideas in to words than I am

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>>17585241
>The original system was pretty interesting and most of the heroic figures were there for a reason (a metaphorical link to legendary idealisms and betrayals)
Apocrypha is dull af precisely because Higashida doesn't this. Even Zero was able to do it pretty nicely. But now all we get is just buncha retarded servants fighting like it's some kinda rpg.

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>>17589051
>The original system was pretty interesting and most of the heroic figures were there for a reason (a metaphorical link to legendary idealisms and betrayals)
Fragments did it perfectly too. Too bad Manaka exists to fuck everything up.

>>17589051
>like it's some kinda rpg
The RPG shit was always a problem with Fate. It only got really bad when it stopped being ignored as the asinine autistic fluff that it originally was.

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>>17436530