The nasuverse was so much better before this bullshit right here

Fate always sucked. Stay/Night has some of the most horribly paced plot development and awkward dialogue and character motivation in VN history. Which is a shame because the very, very core concept of it is great.

>>17408924
i agree with you random anonymous person on the internet
fate was doomed the moment they decided it has to be an erogame
though honestly is it even good as an erogame ? i'm quite ignorant about that, except for the resulting ecchi anime/manga that spawn out of those

>>17409283
The ero in fsn is laughably bad, even to my understanding amongst fans of the series
The whole thing was just shit made frustrating because the idea of summoning forth real accurate historical or legendary figures to do battle is a great concept when it's not subsequently bogged down with the nonsensical Grail shit, every other male figure being an 'akshully it's a girl and she looks exactly the same as the one girl you all liked' as well as convolution seemingly for the sake of convolution

>>17408886
It was always poorly written garbage filled with asspulls and now has no purpose except extracting money from the autistic fans by any means necessary.

This was inevitable and I'm surprised it didn't happen sooner.

Fate/Zero was the only good Fate

>>17410629
Still the best Fate meme yet.

>>17410629

Carnival Phantasm>Fate/Zero>>>>>Shit>>The rest of Fate series

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I only ever watched the anime anyways

>>17408886
no anon
I can't accept implications that apocrypha or extra were any good. we are on /jp/, please.

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>>17411046
I liked Tamamo and her Tamamos though

>>17411046
Extra is fantastic and underappreciated.

The characters it introduced were great. They even made GIl a likeable character

at least tsukihime is safe

>>17408886
The Nasuverse was never good.

No one cares. Waifus are cute.

>>17410956
This, unironically

>>17411320
truly
still, I wonder how many times one went from amateur creator to corporate millionaire on the doujin scene

>>17411277
>Extra is fantastic
Extra is shit excluding interactions with Nero and Archer. Rani is the biggest turd TM has shat out to date and every time I see her face I want to vomit. The other characters like Shinji, Gatou, and Leo don't shine until CCC either.
CCC is much better than extra but not fantastic by a longshot. Both stories would be better if they didn't have a mute protag and weren't stuck into a terrible psp rpg format. I still like CCC but I'd rather it and all the other fate spinoffs didn't exist if it meant TM would be making VNs instead.

>>17408886
fgo story was pretty good, sorry

>>17408886
Nasu was never good.

>>17411366
Fuck beat me to it.

>>17408886
Kusoge trash

>>17412303
Septem exists man, the only good part about that kusoge was Camelot.

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>>17411655
Hakuno was not a mute protag, he talked to the others during his internal monologues, though I don't blame people for missing that since the translation is wonky in that aspect.

>Rani is the biggest turd TM has shat out to date
Well now, this is a statement you don't hear every day
And I agree completely

>>17410920
F/Zfags are a meme.
F/Z is not.

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>>17414735
Please do not save sample size images when they end with the suffix of master1200. And also please do not sexualize the kouhai who is Lancelot's son (female).

>>17414805
I got this off sadpanda. And no, the kouhai ought to be sexualised, only gently.

>>17410629
It's the best one, but SN is also good.

Kill yourself secondaries

>>17412303
Its story is an excuse to introduce as many husbandos and waifus as as possible and let fanart sell the series, there's nothing there and a couple of stories that are less bad than the rest doesn't save it in the slightest

>>17416240
just sounds like an excuse to not read the chapters and keep up with the franchise

>>17408924
>the very, very core concept of it is great.
>falling for hype
It's interesting, and it's unique and creative. I wouldn't call it great on its own. It has potential, certainly. But what makes a story "great" isn't that it's interesting or unique. What makes a story "great" is the execution of that concept, which just isn't there.

>>17418354
>What makes a story "great" is the execution of that concept, which just isn't there.
Just like 99% of all media. A great shame.

>>17410956
>Prisma Illya>Carnival Phantasm>>>>>Shit>>The rest of Fate series

fixed it for you

>>17415143
With such poor grammar, how can you expect me to take your request seriously?

>>17416240
Just like F/SN's was an excuse to make character to sell figurines and statues and hamfist shitty eroge scenes.

>>17418483
How did it ever get THIS popular? Genuinely curious. It's always baffled me what people saw in it past the initial concept.

>>17418436
Found the lolicon.

>>17418436
>Not giving credit where it's due and recognizing F/Z is a step up from the mediocre waifupandering shit that is the rest of Fate

Even if it hurts to admit that the most normie friendly one is the best, it actually is in this case.

>>17418436
SF>Zero>CCC>SN>Fragments>F/GO=Prillya>Apo>Extella>Extra

>>17419487
F/Z is still waifu pandering but for females. Watching grown male masters act like manchildren is also embarrassing

>>17419502
Strange Fake is fucking garbage. And Extella is a continuation of Extra and Extra/CCC.

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>>17419516
>F/Z is still waifu pandering but for females.
I can confirm, and it feels great when we finally get GOOD content that panders to us.

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>>17419973
>GOOD content
There's so many things I could say but I'll just leave it to Gil.

when I played extella on the JP release I finally gave up on the entire franchise. so fucking stupid.

>>17414805
>Please do not save sample size images when they end with the suffix of master1200
You don't even know what master1200 means. The image doesn't even have a dimension that reaches 1200 pixels so it is literally irrelevant.

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>>17420033
Hey, say what you want about F/Z, but it's still way better than the average anime designed to pander to women. Have you ever watched Dance with Devils? Do it and you'll understand what I mean.

>>17418354
he didn't say the story was great, he said the concept at its core is great. No need to bite his head off.

>>17420072
You are a stupid idiot and need to get out of /jp/ right now.

>>17419417
Because chuuni autists found Shirou to be the perfect vessel to self-insert as.

>>17420033
F/Z is decent.

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>>17420197
Shirou is many things, but a self-insert is not one of them.

Saber would have been a better answer, considering she's the only reason Fate and Type Moon as a whole is still afloat. Japan loves their autistic, knight women I guess.

>>17420197
Master1200 is Pixiv's sampling, but it only matters AT ALL if a dimension of the master image exceeds 1200 pixels.
Thus, the name. It downscales the image to the point where the longest dimension is 1200 pixels only.
If the image has no dimension over 1200, the difference between the "sample" and the master is nothing.

>>17420231
The whole Saber-Face popularity thing is very much hugely over-stated and riddled with hyperbole. Look at how Scathach has taken the majority of focus on waifufaggotry with F/GO, Nips are obsessed with her due to her curves and skintight suit. Also I'm pretty sure one of the reason for TM's success with the Fate franchise is that it appeals to -fags of very different varieties, I'm pretty certain characters like Kiritusugu, Gilgamesh, Ozymandias, Perseus hit all the sweet spots for female fans design wise.

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>>17420255
Saber is still the most popular character (popularity and design-wise), and still getting otaku to spend thousands on her. Whereas Scathac barely even has doujins, and only fanart to her name.

The only male character who comes even close to her in popularity is Gilgamesh, everyone else is >>> below them. That's it. Not Kerry, not Ozy, not Scathac.

>>17420366
>Saber is still the most popular character
Not disputed. Pay attention to what I said earlier in my above post.
>getting otaku to spend thousands on her
Otaku spend hundreds if not thousands on any character they want, the rate up for Scathach and Brynhildr was particularly notorious for this which DW and Aniplex have even noted.
>Scathac barely even has doujins
She's a new character relatively speaking in the Type-Moon universe.

>The only male character who comes even close to her in popularity is Gilgamesh.
Again, pay attention to what I said and stop making stupid strawman arguments attacking what I didn't say. I said the main crux of Type-Moon's appeal with the Fate franchise is it appeals to both genders and in particular has multiple characters that are much a magnet for waifufags as they are for husbandofags, fag hags, shotafags, etc...

This is the same reason why Cygames hit gold with RoB for years.

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>>17420384
>it appeals to both genders and in particular has multiple characters that are much a magnet for waifufags as they are for husbandofags, fag hags, shotafags, etc...
Which wasn't the case back when Stay Night first came around. Fate, and Type Moon as a whole, was and still is boosted by Saber. Plain and simple. Sure, they have all that other shit now, but not back then. Popularity contests even show it.

Plain and simple, Saber is the reason why Type Moon is where it is.

>>17420432
>Which wasn't the case back when Stay Night first came around.
Protip dude: its not that period anymore so that's irrelevant. The franchise runs off of having multiple supplementary stories and spin-offs which further draws people in.

>Saber is the reason why Type Moon is where it is.
Sure thing, Takeuchi.

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>>17420510
>Protip dude: its not that period anymore so that's irrelevant
Except it isn't, because if you actually followed the conversation, you'd know the question was how Fate got so popular in the first place. The answer is Saber, whom several people managed loved to waifu.

You can keep going on about husbandos and shotas and whatnot, but it was a waifu that got TM to where they are now.

>>17420551
I don't think you followed the conversation at all, dudester. I was talking about from the get go new characters drawing in more fans with side stories and spin offs, you keep harping back to "no it doesn't matter what made it big with the original is keeping it there", which is fucking dumb as hell.

Work on your own reading comprehension.

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>>17420599
Except no, because it started with

>>17416240
>>17418483
>>17419417
>>17420197

Where the convo started with someone typically harping on GO, then someone asked how Fate got so popular in the first place. Then I answered that it was Saber.

Actually learn to read so you can understand what I'm talking about, jesus christ.

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>>17414735
Mashu a shit! Should have just had a full servant Galahad instead!

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>>17420612
Except wrong. You are retarded and being an irredeemable moron, you think what your saying has anything remotely to do with what I'm talking about on the original tangent, not the goal post shifting you've been doing the entire conversation with me in this thread.

Work on your reading comprehension again. And on top of that none of the posts you linked with had anything to do with >>17420255 which started the entire sub-topic thereon. So let me make a simplification of your entire dumb posts responding to me previously:

>You: "Fate is only popular because of Saber"
>Me: "I didn't say she wasn't popular, but that she wasn't the only reason why the franchise has kept growing"
>You:"She's the most popular character in Fate."
>Me: "Again I didn't dispute this."
>You: "It was the reason why F/SN first got so big all those years ago."
>Me: "Again I didn't dispute the original point of where it started, I said the new stories is what keeps the franchise growing with new characters to draw more fans in."
Ad naseum.

Please stop being so obstinate and pig-headed. My entire point was the franchise kept growing because of works like Extra, F/A, F/Z, and so on. Nasu wants to grow the franchise into a meta-series in the same way Sunrise did with Gundam and Kouki is trying to do the last decade with Muv-Luv.

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>>17420762
>you think what your saying has anything remotely to do with what I'm talking about on the original tangent
Funny considering you're the one that replied to my post saying that Saber is the reason why TM is so popular.
>And on top of that none of the posts you linked with had anything to do with >>17420255 which started the entire sub-topic thereon
Why would you even bring that up when your post was in response to mine, which also had nothing to do with my topic. I said, "The reason why TM is so popular now is because Saber's waifuness." You then responded by, "Nu-uh, its because TM panders to everyone." Okay great, but that has nothing to do with the post I was replying to, nor my response, and you continue to ignore that.

> My entire point was the franchise kept growing because of works like Extra, F/A, F/Z, and so on
And your entire point has nothing to do with mine, why you can't get this yet, I still do not know. My point is the reason why TM is where it is, is because Saber was a great waifu and helped them make a lot of money, letting Nasu branch out and try all the shit he can today. Your response of, "No, actually, its because they pander to everyone." makes no fucking sense, because they only pandered to waifufags back then. You're not even shifting goalposts, you're just ignoring the points I made so you can harp on about the same thing over and over.

How and why you continue to be this incompetent baffles me to no end.

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>>17420825
I think you need to go back to the F/GO general threads, because your reading skills are really really terrible. You just keep moving the goal posts and trying to make dumb strawman arguments while inanely repeating "No its because Saber" over and over.

Please, kill yourself.

>>17420825
>which also has nothing to do with my topic
Protip: its not "your topic".

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>>17420861
I've long since left the GO threads. And how can I be moving goalposts while saying the same thing over and over? Regardless, you've shown yourself incapable of basic reading, and have clearly given up on the argument you lost from the beginning, so good riddance.

>>17420867
Pro-tip: you used pro-tip incorrectly.

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>>17420887
>I've long left the GO threads.
So you are a crossboarder? Neato. Regardless its very cute how you keep parroting what was said to you earlier and trying to be disingenuous and incapable of simple concepts. Very sad, my dull-witted friend.

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>>17420900
Its okay, my slow-minded pal. Even though you can't parse simple thoughts and phrasing, and don't know how to read well, I get where you're coming from.

>>17413800
>only good part is about how much everyone is a seibafag
Really gets those neurons firing

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>>17420913
You can keep avatar-fagging all you want with these kind of retarded "no you" responses, its not going to help. You've already demonstrably proven you are mentally handicapped, admitted to being a crossie, and too stupid to even understand how tangents work.

>>17420931
Septem was the shittiest part in the game.

>>17408886
Does fucking anyone disagree with that statement?

>>17420931
camelot sucked dick though, then again everything sucked once we got Babylon

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>>17420932
And you can keep replying to my post with all sorts of typical insults without actually addressing the point I made from the very beginning. I mean, you're the imbecile who actually went pants-on-head retarded in the first place.

And look at you, still continuing to move goalposts even now. I wonder what you'll come up with next.

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>>17420941
Why would they?

>>17420945
Wait, did you mean everything sucked UNTIL we got to Babylon?

>>17420950
You don't have any points to address though. You just repeated your same flawed claim you self-fulfilling mongoloid.

>moving the goal posts
Once more, parroting a statement isn't going to work.

>>17420963
Orleans was okay.
Septem was terrible.
Oceanus was okay.
London was bad.
Murrica was good.
Camelot was a mix of bad, okay, and good.
Babylon was good.

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>>17420974
>You don't have any points to address though.
>>17420231
Saber would have been a better answer, considering she's the only reason Fate and Type Moon as a whole is still afloat

>You just repeated your same flawed claim you self-fulfilling mongoloid
Mm, keep telling e its flawed, when its true. And due keep in mind that because you're of the dim-witted and slow-minded type, I've kept repeating my point to you since you like to argue against claims that don't exist.

>>17420979
>Murrica was good
First time I've heard anyone say this.

>>17420950
What are you even babbling about? What's with these retarded non-sequiturs, you mega dork? The first post you responded to was about how popularity is linked to multitudes of characters that get more people into the franchise. F/A and F/Z are both particular documented and even mentioned by Nasu as helping grow the Fate brand massively. You responded with something that makes zero sense by going "Saber is the most popular" as if anyone was saying Saber wasn't popular. Then you could only continue with some kind of stupid binary reaction to add to that by going on about how Gilgamesh is the only popular male character which again isn't being either addressed or contradicted on. Your knee-jerk reactions are really pathetically sad.

>>17420985
Yes, you have no points. Because you attacked a post that never said things you claimed they did, and went off from there like a sperg. Go back to your general.

>>17420988
maybe you should get out more

before we even had tls of orleans that one BL fag kept claiming jeanne was terrible and the entire story there was awful and lo and behold its one of the best ones while opinion on septem and camelot went right in reverse

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>>17420985
>>17420551
You are a high school drop out right?

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>>17420993
>Because you attacked a post that never said things you claimed they did
Ah, now I get how you see things. At this point I'm actually getting frustrated from your lack of reading comprehension. Like, I get that you don't want to admit that nothing I've said is wrong, but you're literally going in circles saying I'm saying this and blah blah.

At this point, you need to stop. People loved Saber so much, they gave Nasu and TM lotsa and lotsa money, which made Nasu happy to continue things with HA. Then he got Urobuchi on board, then Extra came along with another Saberface, and voila! People liked her too!

Do I need to continue, or will you keep spewing the same drivel over and over?

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>>17421006
Wouldn't you like that to be true.

>>17421008
You need to stop projecting your delusions, my hyper paranoid shitposting secondary friend. The fact you don't again know how tangents work and making false dichotomies on statements I've said is really sad, like pathetically to the level that someone as dumb as you should be able to figure out after multiple times by now on why your shit-flinging is retarded.

>>17421015
You are though. Because no one can be this stupid to fail simply argumentation.

>>17421000
If orleans is the best story then the rest must be horrible, because it bored me to sleep and had 0 impact on any emotional level.

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>>17421018
>You need to stop projecting your delusions, my hyper paranoid shitposting secondary friend
And you need to learn to read, because your insistence and blind retardation is really showing.

>>17421018
>Because no one can be this stupid to fail simply argumentation
Here's the thing, I've yet to actually fail in defending my point, since you dropped the "TM panders to everyone!" shtick real quick, and went straight to spewing buttmad insults.

Go ahead and prove me wrong, and I'll actually drop the whole thing. But you can't, because I'm right.

>>17421032
I felt the same way entirely about Septem and especially Camelot but London was pretty shitty to. At least America had keikau Edison and goofy shit going on and super Medb slut causing world problems with Cu.

I can't even remember anything about Septem that's decent because both gameplay wise it was a slog and story wise its just fellating Nero over and over to the point that it takes away from her appeal in Extra + CCC utterly.

>>17421000
Camelot isn't even out yet, how can people claim its one of the worst? And people always knew Septem was shit. Everyone knows about how Sakurai had to apologize about how bad the chapter and the Nero wank as a whole.

>>17421032
Yeah Orleans was honestly a bother, and none of the original servants left any impact on me.

>>17421039
You don't know how to argue. You attacked a statement that I didn't say, repeated a strawman argument again, trying to put words in my mouth, and continued that ad naseum over and over. You need to neck yourself, because you are a sub-human and your brainlet status is why you can't get simple concepts to it.

>I haven't failed to to defend my point
Because you are sticking your fingers in your ears and ignoring everything that contradicts your retarded narrative, you fagtron. If this is how a debate works to you then no wonder you think you are "winning".

>>17421050
>Camelot isn't even out
Its been out for a long time in the JP version, what are you talking about?

>>17421065
I thought it would be obvious I was talking about the ENG version...

>>17421071
That's silly though since we're already talking about it in a past tense so it couldn't be the English/international version.

Wait. People play mobage for the plot?

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>>17421054
>You attacked a statement that I didn't say
Quick question, is this>>17420197 you? Because in what was does my post constitute as 'attacking'? And I already stated that I was going to keep repeating my post until you get it. And then you dropped the whole thing to say irrelevant shit.

>Because you are sticking your fingers in your ears and ignoring everything that contradicts your retarded narrative
Mm, no that's you. The moment you realized that your argument had absolutely nothing to do with mine, you immediately rolled over and went full-retard. You constantly ignored the actual words I put on screen so you could keep going, "No! TM panders to everyone!".

>>17421077
Oh, my bad then. I thought when the other anon brought up translation, he was talking about the "official" ones.

>>17408886
Give me one reason why Grand Order is bad.

Hard mode: no gameplay mention.

This thread is trash even by /jp/ standards, and it's because of GO fans. Case closed.

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>>17421116
Sorry, here's my monster girl waifu. Does that make it better?

>>17421091
Learn to work on your reading comprehension you avatar-fagging troglodyte. Why for example would you attack someone who said nothing about Saber's popularity one way or another in the initial post? Oh, its because you are so stupid that once more it has to be repeated that you suffer from a knee-jerk reaction of autism because you are that defensive over her.

>Mm
Kill yourself.
>*snip*
Sorry but no you obstinate dweeb but that's not how it works. You are just too stupid to realize no one gives a shit about your baseless claims to let your comments slide when you get called out. So put your money where your bullshit is and show me Fate existing SOLELY because of Saber, you irredeemable retard.

Also avatar-fagging is pretty pathetic.

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>>17421116
pretty sure the thread is trash because you have an insane Seibahfag in it but most GOfags are pretty bad too

>>17421115
second singularity/chapter in the story sucks Nero's dick
lots of dumb servants (most of whom don't even count as heroic spirits I mean Hans and Shakes are cool but there are tons of characters in various folk lores, mythologies, religions, and cultures that are fighters/warriors/kings/etc...geared to the series main premise then these guys)
even by mobage standards the gacha rate in F/GO is also really bad
desire sensor can also suck my dick

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>>17421139
You're saying a whole lotta things that not only don't make sense, but also don't apply to me. Keep venting, I can tell you actually really care about what you're posting.

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>>17421153
Sounds like your conceding. Neato. Also the projection is really cute, but it still won't fly, kuso sama.

>>17421149
Nigga I am the farthest thing from a Saberfag, holy shit.

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>>17421158
>your
*you're :^)

Sure sure, keep going. I know I pissed you off.

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>>17421161
>>17421161
You know you posting more /fgog/ memes isn't really helping your case here, kusochan.

>>17421159
Unlimited Delusion Works.

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>>17421169
Literally told you before-hand that I left /fgog/ long ago. Before Camelot was even released, even.

>>17421175
>>17421161
>>17421159
>>17421153
So leave then, you crossie.

>>17421172
Nah, I'm serious. Only thing I like about Saber is her relationship with Shirou. Other than that Arthur>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Artoria.

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>>17421180
>I've run out of things to say, better say even more dumb shit

>>17421191
Who are you quoting?

>>17421198
I never got the point of saying this this when the the greentext isn't even something like

>I did this
>something happened

Someone is actually getting quoted, there's no need to actually go,"Durr, who are you quoting?"

>>17421149
Shakes is from apocrypha

>>17421087
It's half VN and half waifu collecting. This thread was flawed from the start when people thought they could get away with criticizing the story of something they never read

>>17421184
>>17421191
So fuck off also who are you quoting?

>>17421115
>no gameplay

the gameplay is the worst gameplay I've seen in the recent popular mobile games

I play granblue for the gameplay, don't really care for the story, the writting pace just don't work on mobile games

>>17422770
Granblue is crap compared to RoB and yes I know gacha rates and all that jazz is better but RoB was so much more fun. Also funnily enough the RoB anime is pretty great while Granblue's was fucking terrible.

>>17422770
granblue has the same gameplay as fgo. You press a button and watch a character do stuff. There's little to no reflexes or finger dexterity required.

This thread is a pretty handy demonstration of the mental illness that is being a saberfag.

>>17423223
>You press a button and watch a character do stuff. There's little to no reflexes or finger dexterity required.
Not defendng Granblue/FGO but
>what's a JRPG?

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>>17423244

Fine let's talk about martha then

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remake soon™

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>>17429367
No thanks.

>>17423244
What the fuck are you talking about?

>>17430314
Pretty obvious, dame-san.

>>17430265
What went wrong?

>>17430629
Money and popularity can corrupt anything.

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>>17430629
Takeuchi discovered the copy and paste function

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This thread looks like it needs some UMU!

Can't wait for the Extra anime so I can get so much more of my glorious emperor.

>>17430841
Mashu isn't a saber-face.

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>>17434565
are you sure

>>17421115
>Give me a reason why this thing is bad
>Oh and it can't be the main reason this thing is bad, hahaha I win

>>17423223
The problem is not the fact that it's a JRPG, the problem is that it's a sad excuse for a JRPG that relies on gacha and has INCREDIBLY REPETITIVE GAMEPLAY, Theres a reason a lot of classic JRPGs are hailed as great games, it's cause they knew when to introduce new enemies, skills, and environments and also knew when to end, because they're allowed to have an ending because their purpose wasn't to exist forever and make as much money off of thirsty weeaboos as possible.

>>17437041
It's actually a VN with rpg gameplay. You can tell by how it collects the scenarios in its archive. Also, it's a mobage and something that was meant to be consumed in 2-5 minutes while you wait for something else

>>17435114
So Emiya and Gil are Saber-Faces too?

>>17437785
according to every takeuchi hater, yes

>>17410629
>>17410920
>>17410956
I don't want to be "that guy", but Nasu himself does imply Zero is a serious work over FSN.

>Nasu: I told Aniplex's producer that I wanted the Fate/Zero novels turned into an anime. It was a good suggestion. Many anime fans want there to be a lot of cute bishoujo characters in the work, and while they work hard to meet those needs, Iwakami, an important producer at Aniplex, wasn't satisfied just by doing that. I suggested that he tackle Fate/Zero, a dark and serious story full of raw emotion. He had the resolve, and that's how they ended up adapting Fate/Zero.

Context for this: Iwakami turned down to adapt FSN because he didn't want to adapt a bishoujo harem series, so Nasu proposed Zero. You'll notice UBW was changed to follow Zero mood too, with all Saber's waifu scenes modified and portrayed as Shirou's surrogate "mom". The "dark mature stuff" isn't a secondary meme, it's Nasu's description of Fate/Zero.

>>17437820
I hate Takeuchi because he's the one forcing saber-face in Fate works and how same-facey his art style is in general.

Nasu: (as Takeuchi) "Recently Nasu Kinoko needs to please users or take responsibility. It's been far too long since he had done either. A long time ago he felt free and was doing things with a sense of liberty. Where did the old Nasu Kinoko go?" Hearing those words felt like being stabbed. It's true that I had been putting all my heart into making entertainment.

Suzumura: Sounds like things were heating up in there.

Nasu: People loved Tsukihime and Fate/stay night so much. So many people liked them that I wanted to go on pleasing as many users as possible. I was thinking of it as something that would come naturally. However, one can't continue for long as a creator by thinking that way. If you only focus on pleasing others, you won't be able to please yourself. There's a painful aspect of 'work' too. If that was all there was to it, I'd have gone bankrupt a long time ago. To last as a creator, I think you have to unchain your ego a little bit. Of course, you'll need to balance the need between doing whatever you want and making something that will please your customers (lol).

Honest thoughts on Nasu?

>>17438218
UBW was changed the way it was so it could be seen after Zero because Nasu wanted it to be easier for anime-onlys to watch. He said so himself, but fuck if I can find the interview.

>>17438418
nasu is a hack. he always was, and always will be.

>>17438218
Being more serious≠better in any way.

>>17440173
Why does F/Z trigger you so?

Man, TM threads are fucking terrible.

>>17408886
Yo anon, know any guide as to how I should read the Fate VNs along with other material in the Fate series? I've only seen all the anime adaptations and done the Fate route and UBW route.

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>>17440263
alternatively, you can just "read" the VN then cover up your lack of knowledge of later works by calling everyone a secondary or calling the works shit

>>17440432
but that would be a lot of unnecessary "knowledge"

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>>17440260

Ok to save the thread we put mustaches on other anons post

Has does /jp/ feel about mustaches ?

>>17408886
>Ex Madness enhancement
Fucking retarded

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>>17440910
They're okay.

>>17440233
Explain to me how you came to this conclusion.

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>>17440432
>>17440263
Fate/stay night
https://www.mofumoe.org/content/fatestay-night

Fate/stay night [Réalta Nua]
https://nyaa.si/view/427133
realtapatch.tumblr.com/

Fate/hollow ataraxia
https://www.mofumoe.org/content/fatehollow-ataraxia

Tsukihime
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/1705201

Tsukihime Fun Disc: PLUS-DISC
https://www.mofumoe.org/content/tsukihime-plus-disc

Tsukihime Fun Disc: Kagetsu Tohya
https://www.mofumoe.org/content/kagetsu-tooya

Melty Blood: Actress Again Current Code
https://mega.nz/#!38YgRTIS!hXliYFjdKtYvtMYd9M2Az2HuigizUvNtpYMOAurmyXY

Rips of TYPE-MOON's PC games
https://mega.nz/#F!BA4yHYoT!NwGVKj4q9Z1vnpKlYY-4UQ

TMDict, a compilation of Nasuverse dictionary entries
http://tmdict.com

>>17441167
Explain to me why I wouldn't come to that conclusion.